# News You Can Use: Explains how technology is creating engineered addictions, leading to anxiety, and loss of focus.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 27 May 2025, 26 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Jacqueline Rushin. A distinguished business executive, addiction counselor, minister, and author, joins Money Making Conversations Masterclass to discuss her book, The Hidden Hand: How Human Decisions Behind Rapid Technology Deployments Are Driving a Mental Health Crisis. She explores the effects of technology addiction and strategies for maintaining mental wellness in a hyper-connected world. 🔑 Key Themes & Highlights • Technology Addiction & Its Impact • Social media and smartphone dependency are creating engineered addictions, leading to overstimulation, anxiety, and loss of focus. • Many individuals, including students and professionals, struggle with constant digital engagement, causing fatigue and decreased productivity. • Mental Health Crisis Linked to Technology • Increased tech usage has fueled mental health challenges, including depression, anxiety, and strained relationships. • Dr. Rushing’s work has identified a growing pattern of therapy-seeking individuals suffering from digital addiction. • Balancing Technology & Mental Wellness • Encourages strategic technology use—making sure digital tools complement life rather than consuming it. • FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) drives unhealthy behavior, keeping individuals perpetually "on", preventing rest and reflection. • The Importance of Mental Health Awareness • Historically, mental health was stigmatized, especially in Black communities, where therapy was less accessible. • Today, conversations about mental wellness are gaining traction, but challenges remain, particularly for executives managing silent struggles. • Taking Control of Digital Habits • Dr. Rushing advocates for setting personal boundaries, resisting external pressures to be constantly reachable. • Suggests one hour of daily unplugged time to reset, disconnect, and regain mental clarity. 📘 Resources & Contact Information Dr. Rushing’s book, The Hidden Hand, is available for purchase. 🔗 Website: DrJacquelineRushin.com #STRAW #BEST #SHMS Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success. Business Podcast Entrepreneurship Small Business Business Growth Financial Literacy Wealth Building Black Entrepreneurs Minority Business Leadership Executive Leadership Business Funding Marketing Strategies Personal Development Startup Advice Sales Training CEO Interviews Founder Stories Professional Development Economic Empowerment Business Success Networking Brand Building Innovation How to start a business Small business funding Entrepreneur success stories Business leadership podcast Wealth building strategies Black entrepreneur podcast Minority business development Marketing for small businesses Business growth strategies Startup funding opportunities Executive leadership training Financial literacy education Success mindset podcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:00] Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald hosts a weekly Money Making Conversations
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[0:27] Speaker 1: is a distinguished business executive, executive coach, addiction counselor, minister, humanitarian,
[0:34] Speaker 1: life coach, writer and author. A recognized expert in inner wealth,
[0:38] Speaker 1: she has dedicated her life to inspiring individuals and communities
[0:41] Speaker 1: to discover their intrinsic value and unlock their full potential.
[0:46] Speaker 1: She has worked seamlessly and integrates ethics, compassion, and practical
[0:50] Speaker 1: tools to foster resilience, purpose, and transformative growth in the
[0:54] Speaker 1: face of life challenges. Don't we need her today? Please
[0:58] Speaker 1: work with the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Reverend Doctor jack
[1:02] Speaker 1: One Rushing, Welcome to the show.
[1:05] Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Good to hear your voice.
[1:08] Speaker 1: Well, good to you you because you know, and you
[1:11] Speaker 1: know when you have isolation and coming in these winter months,
[1:16] Speaker 1: you can't get out a lot of people loneliness, you know,
[1:20] Speaker 1: they can't visit people talk about that because I brought
[1:23] Speaker 1: you on the show specifically about the mental crisis that
[1:27] Speaker 1: we are in and sometimes we don't recognize it. Doctor Russian,
[1:31] Speaker 1: please tell my audience about that.
[1:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, loneliness is considered as a major epidemic.
[1:40] Speaker 2: It is amazing that in the world that we have
[1:43] Speaker 2: that that would be a problem with all of the
[1:45] Speaker 2: people around us. But people deal with so many different
[1:49] Speaker 2: things and isolation and loneliness those are big problems for us.
[1:55] Speaker 2: And of course those things drive other disorders such as
[1:59] Speaker 2: an anxiety, depression, just you know, just all types of
[2:05] Speaker 2: issues that make people withdrawn. So it is it is
[2:10] Speaker 2: a very it is a very very serious situation of
[2:15] Speaker 2: loneliness that the fact that it will be called a crisis.
[2:17] Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, doctor Russian, when you talk
[2:21] Speaker 1: about loneliness, you know, attracting people can be lonely. You know,
[2:26] Speaker 1: successful people can be lonely. Athletes, musicians, entertainers, actors, you know,
[2:32] Speaker 1: ministers can be lonely even though they're engaged and interacting
[2:36] Speaker 1: with people. Are there any warning signs that we can
[2:39] Speaker 1: look for that we can see that will help us trigger, Hey,
[2:44] Speaker 1: I need to really talk to that person a little
[2:46] Speaker 1: bit different. Now, help me out.
[2:50] Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you don't know people who people are
[2:53] Speaker 2: lonely because they put on masks. And it's like you
[2:56] Speaker 2: said that, you have so many people who appear to
[2:59] Speaker 2: have everybody around them, but internally they're struggling. That struggle, though,
[3:04] Speaker 2: is an internal struggle because you can be in a
[3:07] Speaker 2: room full of people and you feel isolated, you feel separated,
[3:12] Speaker 2: you feel loneliness, and of course that's when we start
[3:16] Speaker 2: seeing people dealing with depression, or maybe we don't see
[3:21] Speaker 2: them dealing with depression. What we see are the smiles,
[3:25] Speaker 2: we see the we see all of the accolades until somebody,
[3:30] Speaker 2: let's just say, they may commit suicide or attempt suicide.
[3:34] Speaker 2: And the first thing that people say is that person
[3:38] Speaker 2: was always happy. I can't believe that happened. But that's
[3:41] Speaker 2: not the way that loneliness work. And it's like you
[3:43] Speaker 2: were saying earlier, there are people who could be in
[3:46] Speaker 2: the middle, in the midst of a bunch of people
[3:50] Speaker 2: around them, and they feel lonely. But all of that
[3:54] Speaker 2: is because they are detached from their inner wealth, the
[3:58] Speaker 2: inner power, the thing that the things that make them
[4:03] Speaker 2: strong and things that make them resilient.
[4:06] Speaker 1: Now that's important being detached, you know, because of the
[4:11] Speaker 1: fact that, like I said, you know, I've been fortunately,
[4:14] Speaker 1: I've been around people who have attempted suicide. I've been
[4:18] Speaker 1: around people who have committed suicide, and it always catches
[4:23] Speaker 1: you off God, because death is especially when it's young people.
[4:26] Speaker 1: That's you know, I'm not saying that you know you're
[4:28] Speaker 1: ready for death, but when you see somebody in the
[4:30] Speaker 1: eighties and nineties past, they've lived a life, they've lived
[4:33] Speaker 1: a life, and so you know expect that that time
[4:36] Speaker 1: is going to come. It's the when you're in your
[4:38] Speaker 1: twenties and thirties and people are like committing suicide, are
[4:42] Speaker 1: doing things destructive to their longevity. That's always shocking. What
[4:48] Speaker 1: exactly is inner wealth?
[4:52] Speaker 2: Well, inner wealth is about and it's about the balance
[4:56] Speaker 2: between mind, body, and spirit. And I always say that
[5:00] Speaker 2: at inter wealth for me is about ascension, where whereas
[5:04] Speaker 2: external wealth is about climbing. And so those those are
[5:08] Speaker 2: two different things. Both have gone up. The one is
[5:11] Speaker 2: going up spiritually and one is going up you know
[5:14] Speaker 2: physically where the where the grounds that are navigated are
[5:19] Speaker 2: the uh are the ones that are set by man.
[5:23] Speaker 2: The spiritual ascension to me, which is where inner wealth is,
[5:27] Speaker 2: balancing your mind by they and spirit comes from investing
[5:33] Speaker 2: in those things that give you a return on investment.
[5:36] Speaker 2: So you know, we talk a lot about financial wealth.
[5:40] Speaker 2: We understand what return on investment is from our finances.
[5:44] Speaker 2: We in turn, we understand what internal rate of return
[5:47] Speaker 2: is break even in all of those things, but we
[5:50] Speaker 2: don't take those same things and apply it to us
[5:54] Speaker 2: because we are looking for external validation. But when you
[5:58] Speaker 2: are focusing on an internal validation, you only invest and
[6:03] Speaker 2: engage in those things that give you a positive return
[6:07] Speaker 2: on investment from your mind, body, and spirit to elevate you.
[6:11] Speaker 2: When you elevate from a consciousness perspective where you are
[6:15] Speaker 2: sending to the next level of understanding your own self identity,
[6:19] Speaker 2: self worth, and you are being value and you don't
[6:22] Speaker 2: have to be validated by what man says. Somehow you
[6:26] Speaker 2: always get there and you achieve external abundance, which is
[6:30] Speaker 2: necessary even for people who are climbing for them not
[6:33] Speaker 2: to feel lonely. For that and to mean something is
[6:36] Speaker 2: really to get that balance in there between their mind,
[6:39] Speaker 2: bodies and spirit cool.
[6:41] Speaker 1: I'm speaking of Reverend doctor Jacklin Russian. Let's talk about technology.
[6:46] Speaker 1: You have a book coming out of January thirtieth, The
[6:49] Speaker 1: Hidden Hand, How human decisions behind rapid technology deployments are
[6:54] Speaker 1: driving a mental health crisis. I look at TV. I
[6:58] Speaker 1: see people caring on conversations with their phone, which means
[7:03] Speaker 1: that means they're being divoid or devoid of human contact technology.
[7:08] Speaker 1: You know, you used to go home from work. Now
[7:11] Speaker 1: they can call you. There's electronic leashes. You can't get away.
[7:16] Speaker 1: I remember I grew up in the era where you
[7:19] Speaker 1: left home, you ain't talk to anybody. Can You went
[7:22] Speaker 1: back home because the phone was at your house. You
[7:24] Speaker 1: can't do that nowadays. So let's talk about that book
[7:27] Speaker 1: that you're coming out. You have coming out of January
[7:29] Speaker 1: thirtieth and driving a mental health crisis because of rapid technology.
[7:34] Speaker 1: The floor is yours, doctor.
[7:37] Speaker 2: Thank you. You know what, The real issue is not
[7:40] Speaker 2: the technology, because technology is not inherently good or bad.
[7:44] Speaker 2: The key behind that is the rapid deployment, and those
[7:49] Speaker 2: are human decisions. Those are the human decisions. In terms
[7:53] Speaker 2: of how they leverage technology. So I don't want anyone
[7:56] Speaker 2: to think that I am like, you know, downing technology.
[8:02] Speaker 1: ANTIAI and all that stuff.
[8:06] Speaker 2: I worked in technology organizations for years. I worked for
[8:11] Speaker 2: AT and T for fifteen years, and then I worked
[8:13] Speaker 2: for IG in their technology department, and I was over
[8:18] Speaker 2: deployment of technology. So I absolutely understand technology. I love technology,
[8:25] Speaker 2: and I would say that perhaps my life over time
[8:27] Speaker 2: has been saved by technology. But there comes a point though,
[8:31] Speaker 2: when we have to look at it from the perspective
[8:33] Speaker 2: of how are we using it. In twenty and sixteen,
[8:37] Speaker 2: I was on a technology panel and I asked a question.
[8:42] Speaker 2: I asked them, do you like to have sex? And
[8:45] Speaker 2: of course it got really really quiet because they were like,
[8:48] Speaker 2: is this a trick question? But I was really serious
[8:51] Speaker 2: about that question because it definitely ties in with today.
[8:56] Speaker 2: Because during that time I started doing more reading up
[8:59] Speaker 2: on how technology was developing in terms of creating these
[9:04] Speaker 2: androids that the manufacturers could not keep and stop because
[9:09] Speaker 2: people were purchasing these dolls. They're not like the blow
[9:13] Speaker 2: up dolls and all of these these are people. This
[9:16] Speaker 2: is technology androids that look like you, that talk like you,
[9:21] Speaker 2: and that can be a program like you. And so
[9:25] Speaker 2: fast forward until today, it has been so normalized. I
[9:29] Speaker 2: saw a video just yesterday of a technology where they're
[9:33] Speaker 2: calling this android your girlfriend or your boyfriend or your partner,
[9:38] Speaker 2: your spouse or your companion. What does that do? That
[9:42] Speaker 2: isolates us and that detaches us from each other. And
[9:47] Speaker 2: so the technology it should be to complement us and
[9:51] Speaker 2: not replace us. And when we're in an environment where people,
[9:55] Speaker 2: you know, I often hear men say they can't find
[9:58] Speaker 2: a good woman, women saying they can't find a good man.
[10:01] Speaker 2: But then they'll go and they will get involved with this,
[10:04] Speaker 2: with this type of technology. And so to me, these
[10:08] Speaker 2: are types of issues that we don't talk about and
[10:11] Speaker 2: they slip up on us. Then we also have where
[10:16] Speaker 2: our children are using technology four to five hours, four
[10:20] Speaker 2: to five hours a day, four to five hours. So
[10:24] Speaker 2: we have an addiction crisis relative to this. In some
[10:29] Speaker 2: countries they're even banning the use of technology for so
[10:33] Speaker 2: many hours. But when you are addicted to technology, it
[10:38] Speaker 2: is making your decisions, it is impacting us from a
[10:41] Speaker 2: cognitive perspective. So when people tell me that you know,
[10:45] Speaker 2: this is kind of like fear mongering, I'm like, No,
[10:48] Speaker 2: it's not. I've already said I love technology. It's like
[10:51] Speaker 2: being in love with you, with a man or a woman.
[10:54] Speaker 2: You see all of those amazing things about them and you,
[10:57] Speaker 2: and you over you tend to overlook the things that
[11:01] Speaker 2: they're doing bad that really can be detrimental to you.
[11:04] Speaker 2: And what I'm thinking about technology is technology is beautiful
[11:08] Speaker 2: because it's the ingenuity of us. It's how we are
[11:12] Speaker 2: deploying it. When you are deploying systems and you're saying
[11:17] Speaker 2: that we're just replacing mundane tasks, repetitive tasks a large
[11:22] Speaker 2: percent of our society, that's exactly what they do. Where
[11:27] Speaker 2: will the cashiers go? Where will the janitors go? Where
[11:31] Speaker 2: will a lot of these other positions go that are
[11:36] Speaker 2: held by a large percentage of the environment. So the
[11:40] Speaker 2: answer that people typically come up with is, well, we've
[11:42] Speaker 2: got to skill people. We've got to upskill, we've got
[11:45] Speaker 2: to reskill, we've got a cross skill. But let's just
[11:48] Speaker 2: be honest. How many people who are cashiers are going
[11:52] Speaker 2: to end up being data analysts because you have to
[11:56] Speaker 2: build upon these skills, And it's a timing issue. So
[11:59] Speaker 2: when you have these mass layoffs, I think I read
[12:03] Speaker 2: we're in twenty it could be twenty twenty five, but
[12:07] Speaker 2: people can look it up. They're going to be eighty
[12:10] Speaker 2: million jobs lost. Behind those jobs are families and their communities.
[12:17] Speaker 2: And people cannot sign jobs in a short period of time.
[12:22] Speaker 2: You cannot build skills by going to a class and
[12:25] Speaker 2: get certified. We have been talking about overhauling our educational
[12:32] Speaker 2: systems for generations to get us prepared for this, and
[12:37] Speaker 2: now here we are now, and now we're here, and
[12:40] Speaker 2: we are not prepared. So we're trying to scramble. We're
[12:43] Speaker 2: not finding jobs now in you know, in a month
[12:48] Speaker 2: or two months. It's taking people a year or two
[12:51] Speaker 2: to find jobs. And this is because these jobs are
[12:55] Speaker 2: being replaced by AI and robotic.
[12:58] Speaker 1: And so let meagine this, doctor, you know, because I
[13:01] Speaker 1: want to just back up your statement about losing jobs,
[13:04] Speaker 1: and because if you've been reading the news, the DOC
[13:09] Speaker 1: workers are refusing technology to be applied at the docs because,
[13:18] Speaker 1: like you said, this is what I do. I've been
[13:20] Speaker 1: loading boxes all my life. I'm suddenly not going to
[13:22] Speaker 1: be over the person over there reprogramming the machines anymore.
[13:27] Speaker 1: And so a lot of people are caught in between.
[13:30] Speaker 1: They're going to look. I know technology is good, but
[13:33] Speaker 1: what do I do well? How do I keep food
[13:36] Speaker 1: on my table? With AI interceding? It's a good thing,
[13:41] Speaker 1: but guess what, I'm fifty years old, I'm sixty years old.
[13:44] Speaker 1: I might, you know, I might. I can't retire because
[13:48] Speaker 1: when you look at that social Security check, it can't
[13:51] Speaker 1: take care of nobody. And so so I just want
[13:54] Speaker 1: to back up because a lot of people can just
[13:57] Speaker 1: hear you talk and oh, she's on a soapbox. You know,
[14:00] Speaker 1: you don't want to have technology, but there's a lot
[14:02] Speaker 1: of people out there fighting technology because they don't see
[14:06] Speaker 1: options for themselves in the workforce.
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[14:37] Speaker 1: My guest has a new book published that was coming
[14:40] Speaker 1: out January thirtieth. It's called The Hidden Hand. How human
[14:44] Speaker 1: decisions behind rapid technology deployments are driving a mental health crisis.
[14:50] Speaker 1: When you see mental health crisis. Doctor, what exactly are
[14:53] Speaker 1: you referencing.
[14:55] Speaker 2: I'm referencing that people align themselves self identity, they're self
[15:01] Speaker 2: worth with what they do. When people and that's why
[15:05] Speaker 2: I'm speaking a lot about how technology the decisions behind
[15:11] Speaker 2: them are driving a mental health crisis because number one,
[15:15] Speaker 2: from a workforce perspective, people do identify themselves with what
[15:19] Speaker 2: they do. And when you have these mass layoffs that
[15:22] Speaker 2: we are seeing and that we will continue to see,
[15:26] Speaker 2: that's going to be a problem because people can't find jobs.
[15:29] Speaker 2: When they can't find jobs, now they have financial issues,
[15:32] Speaker 2: then they have family issues, and so it just goes
[15:34] Speaker 2: on and on and on. The Other thing, too, is
[15:38] Speaker 2: our children. We have our children, especially generations alphaan Z.
[15:43] Speaker 2: This is all that they know, This is the way
[15:46] Speaker 2: that they communicate, and with that that is going to
[15:49] Speaker 2: create a digital divide between them and their parents. And
[15:52] Speaker 2: so our children are being raised up in these MetaType
[15:57] Speaker 2: universe where they are so ingrained into technology that they're
[16:03] Speaker 2: not focusing a lot on building human relationships. We are
[16:08] Speaker 2: so focused on who likes us from you know, online,
[16:13] Speaker 2: but without really building up these personal relationships. We're human
[16:20] Speaker 2: beings and so we need to we need to be
[16:24] Speaker 2: together so we can love each other. And and the
[16:28] Speaker 2: other thing with that is when I hear people say
[16:32] Speaker 2: I just get tired of dealing with folks, It's like,
[16:36] Speaker 2: that's part of how we grow because I've said it too,
[16:39] Speaker 2: But you grow through that. The alternative is dealing with
[16:44] Speaker 2: inanimate objects. Who will who you will look at? Who would?
[16:47] Speaker 2: Who you think? And you will start idolizing because they
[16:52] Speaker 2: do everything perfect or seemingly perfect. And in the meantime,
[16:57] Speaker 2: we are losing ourselves. We're losing our self worth, we're
[17:01] Speaker 2: losing our self identity. And if we, if we and
[17:06] Speaker 2: this is this is more like a more spiritual thing
[17:09] Speaker 2: here though, But.
[17:11] Speaker 1: So you can go down now. You can go down now, Jack.
[17:14] Speaker 2: If God made us in his image, and I use
[17:18] Speaker 2: his loosely, h and that's another topic. But if we're
[17:22] Speaker 2: made in the image, we are divine people. We are
[17:25] Speaker 2: divine individuals who have a lot of power. We are
[17:29] Speaker 2: interconnected and our power comes from being together, not being separated.
[17:35] Speaker 2: So if we're separated because of technology that's going that
[17:41] Speaker 2: is that would be disastrous for us in the long term.
[17:45] Speaker 2: It sounds like a good idea, and in many instances,
[17:48] Speaker 2: it is, but not at the expense of our human
[17:52] Speaker 2: identity and our self worth. It has to complement us
[17:57] Speaker 2: and not minimize who we are.
[18:00] Speaker 1: One percent agree with you on that, you know, Reflax,
[18:03] Speaker 1: you know we talked about it. I brought that up earlier.
[18:06] Speaker 1: And sometimes we get caught up so much in our
[18:10] Speaker 1: lives and we don't even want to be dealing with
[18:13] Speaker 1: any outside pressures or the thought of that might invade
[18:17] Speaker 1: my little world. You know, we have pets, and you know,
[18:21] Speaker 1: people say, well, you can compare, compare. You know, these
[18:25] Speaker 1: AI and these robots and these phones that you're talking to,
[18:29] Speaker 1: people have pets, different conversations. Pets are loving pets. You
[18:33] Speaker 1: have to care about pets, You have to worry about pets.
[18:36] Speaker 1: You have to make sure that you have to respond
[18:39] Speaker 1: to them. That's what she's talking about emotion. See, that's
[18:42] Speaker 1: the part of this conversation. We're talking about behavior. You
[18:45] Speaker 1: can have interaction with an animal. You cannot have emotional
[18:50] Speaker 1: interaction with inanimate objects like your phone like Daryl Daryls,
[18:57] Speaker 1: or robots or things like that. And that's the rapid
[19:00] Speaker 1: deployments that she's talking about and saying that we welcome AI.
[19:05] Speaker 1: We welcome technology, but it's going to come at a cost.
[19:09] Speaker 1: And the cost can be employment, the cost can be loaningless,
[19:14] Speaker 1: the cost can be detaching yourself from society, which, like
[19:18] Speaker 1: you said, doctor, will cause a mental crisis.
[19:22] Speaker 2: Correct. Yes. And the other piece to that is relative
[19:27] Speaker 2: to mental health professionals and just the health care industry,
[19:32] Speaker 2: they dealt with a lot that was unprecedent during COVID.
[19:37] Speaker 2: This is going to be something that will even impact them.
[19:42] Speaker 2: There are not enough mental health professionals to be able
[19:45] Speaker 2: to deal with the crisis that we're going to have.
[19:48] Speaker 2: Not to mention that there is such a stigma with
[19:51] Speaker 2: mental health that people may not even go and to
[19:55] Speaker 2: get help, and I don't even know if they will
[19:57] Speaker 2: have access to help. I really want people to to
[20:02] Speaker 2: think earlier about how they can help support the mental
[20:06] Speaker 2: health professionals, to you know, to read some of their books,
[20:10] Speaker 2: to go and visit some of their conferences, and just
[20:14] Speaker 2: to read up more about mental health and read about
[20:18] Speaker 2: AI and robotics. I'm raising awareness. You may have a
[20:22] Speaker 2: different idea. But when I see when I go to
[20:25] Speaker 2: a restaurant and see everybody on when I say everybody,
[20:29] Speaker 2: you know, it's not every single person let me, but.
[20:32] Speaker 1: I'm guilty you I know you're about to say on
[20:34] Speaker 1: their phone, you know, yeah.
[20:36] Speaker 2: They're on their phones on their tablet. That's a problem.
[20:40] Speaker 2: That is a problem when we have when we depend
[20:44] Speaker 2: on AI for our decision making. That's a problem. I've
[20:49] Speaker 2: been writing since I was probably about seven or eight
[20:52] Speaker 2: years old. I write down everything because I love to write,
[20:55] Speaker 2: because that's our stories.
[20:56] Speaker 1: Right.
[20:57] Speaker 2: People now will go to AI and just let AI
[21:01] Speaker 2: do everything for them. That does over time, that has
[21:05] Speaker 2: an impact on you. And that's the difference between this
[21:09] Speaker 2: industrial revolution then the first, second, and third. We're in
[21:14] Speaker 2: the fourth Industrial revolution and this is the digital age.
[21:18] Speaker 2: And the difference between this particular one is that it
[21:22] Speaker 2: challenges the concept of uniquely human skills and they causes
[21:28] Speaker 2: us the questions of make you know, to post questions
[21:30] Speaker 2: about our self worth and purpose. None of the others
[21:34] Speaker 2: did that. They really did complement us and help us
[21:37] Speaker 2: to grow this this industry. This industrial revolution is challenging.
[21:43] Speaker 2: And again I am not trying to stop any type
[21:47] Speaker 2: of progress. What I'm talking about is rapid deployments without
[21:51] Speaker 2: a plan for human centric solutions.
[21:54] Speaker 1: Oh Dai zone doctor you Sidlight. People have been pushing
[22:01] Speaker 1: back on your thought process, because you've said it several times. Look, Reshan,
[22:05] Speaker 1: I'm not trying to halt technology. I'm not trying to
[22:09] Speaker 1: halt ai. But there are a group of people who
[22:12] Speaker 1: are looking at you in a negative stance, not a
[22:15] Speaker 1: threatening but a negative stance that you are nervous Nelly,
[22:19] Speaker 1: as one would say using old terminology, what do you
[22:22] Speaker 1: say about those people who constantly don't understand what mental
[22:27] Speaker 1: health is, Thus they don't see the crisis coming.
[22:32] Speaker 2: When you have a focus on productivity and efficiency, that
[22:37] Speaker 2: equals profits. So the people who are pushed back it
[22:42] Speaker 2: has a financial benefit to them because that's why where
[22:46] Speaker 2: you see a lot of money being invested, their profits
[22:49] Speaker 2: to be gained from that. We're basically consumers for the
[22:53] Speaker 2: most part. So the people who will push back to
[22:56] Speaker 2: say that, and who have pushed back to me, when
[23:01] Speaker 2: I talk with them, it's all about profits, and so
[23:04] Speaker 2: I'll ask them where's the ethics in this? Like as
[23:08] Speaker 2: an example, when you look at facial recognition, if you
[23:11] Speaker 2: look at the fact that so many that there were
[23:14] Speaker 2: enough cases that raise the red flag to say, hey,
[23:18] Speaker 2: this technology does not recognize me because the biases that
[23:22] Speaker 2: we have in this country will be built into that,
[23:26] Speaker 2: and then when it comes to the technology that we
[23:29] Speaker 2: really need to leverage, most people will not even be
[23:32] Speaker 2: able to afford that. The only thing that I'm really
[23:36] Speaker 2: saying to corporations is taught the rapid deployment and think
[23:42] Speaker 2: about how it's going to impact holistically society. On an
[23:47] Speaker 2: individual level, I want you to be care I want
[23:51] Speaker 2: you to take care of yourself. I want you to
[23:53] Speaker 2: focus on your inner wealth and think about how you
[23:56] Speaker 2: are being personally being impacted by by technology. Not good stuff.
[24:04] Speaker 2: I'm talking about the things that would challenge you from
[24:07] Speaker 2: a mental and spiritual perspective.
[24:11] Speaker 1: Cool Reverend Doctor Jacqueline Russian her book Write This Down
[24:16] Speaker 1: January thirtieth, The Hidden Hand. That's when it's going to
[24:19] Speaker 1: come out how human decisions behind rapid technology to pullowments
[24:24] Speaker 1: are driving a mental health crisis. Thank you for coming
[24:27] Speaker 1: on my show, Money Making Conversation. You are an eye opener.
[24:30] Speaker 1: Keep screaming out those alarms. Okay, keep wanting us because
[24:34] Speaker 1: if don't have somebody telling us what's wrong when we
[24:36] Speaker 1: were walking to us, we won't. We have to understand.
[24:40] Speaker 1: Somebody said, be aware and your awareness to this is amazing.
[24:44] Speaker 1: That's why I brought you on my show and we
[24:46] Speaker 1: were talking the future, especially when your book comes out.
[24:48] Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate you and all
[24:52] Speaker 2: of the work that you're doing with the Money Making Conversation.
[24:55] Speaker 1: I appreciate you. We talk soon now again. This is
[24:57] Speaker 1: my show. This has been another episode of Money Making
[25:00] Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass hosted by me Rashaan McDonald. Thank you to
[25:04] Speaker 1: our guests on the show today and thank you our
[25:07] Speaker 1: listening audience now. If you want to listen to any
[25:09] Speaker 1: episodes or want to be a guest on the show,
[25:12] Speaker 1: visit Moneymakingconversation dot com. Our social media handle is money
[25:17] Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Join us next week and remember to always
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[25:25] Speaker 1: edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass hosted by me Rashaan McDonald.
[25:29] Speaker 1: Thank you to our guests on the show today and
[25:31] Speaker 1: thank you our listening to audience now. If you want
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