# Overcoming the Odds: He highlights a major issue: lack of access to tech information in Black media spaces.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 19 Jun 2026, 29 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Kenneth Chester 🧾 Overall Purpose of the Interview The interview is designed to educate, inspire, and empower listeners—especially entrepreneurs and communities of color—around technology, entrepreneurship, and economic opportunity. It serves three main purposes: • Demystify emerging technologies (AI, electric vehicles, mobility) • Encourage entrepreneurship and self-starting behavior • Advocate for greater access to knowledge and participation in tech among Black communities Chester’s role is that of a translator and motivator, turning complex topics into actionable insight while challenging limiting beliefs. 🎯 Key Themes & Takeaways 1. Mindset: “Evolve or Die” • Chester emphasizes that adaptability is essential for survival and success. • Resistance to change leads to stagnation and missed opportunity. 👉 Takeaway: Success comes from continuous learning and embracing change, especially in fast-moving fields like tech. 2. Entrepreneurship Requires Overcoming “But” • Chester identifies the most dangerous word in entrepreneurship:“but.” • People often block themselves with excuses (lack of time, money, connections). 👉 Takeaways: • Start before you feel ready. • Your first customer validates your idea. • Growth is incremental: 1 → 2 → 5 → 10 customers. 3. Technology as Opportunity (Not Threat) Focus areas: • Artificial intelligence (AI) • Electric vehicles (EVs) • Autonomous vehicles Chester reframes technology as: • A tool for empowerment, not replacement • A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, especially for underserved communities 👉 Takeaways: • AI lowers barriers (no coding required, often free) • EVs are driven by economics and efficiency, not just climate concerns • Understanding tech = controlling your future 4. Information Access Gap in Black Communities • Chester highlights a major issue: lack of access to tech information in Black media spaces • Ironically, he receives more support from non-Black (even conservative) platforms 👉 Takeaways: • The issue is not capability—it’s distribution and exposure • Communities must actively seek and share knowledge 5. AI as a Transformational Equalizer Chester strongly argues: • AI is comparable to literacy in earlier eras • Avoiding it is like refusing education 100 years ago 👉 Takeaways: • AI can: • Create new careers quickly (3–6 months training) • Increase independence and income • All that’s required is: • Time • Curiosity • Access (libraries included) 6. Simplifying Tech for the Masses • Chester intentionally avoids over-complication • He positions himself as**“tech-aware,” not overly technical** 👉 Takeaway: • Effective communication = meeting people where they are • Education works best when it is practical and digestible 7. Structural & Environmental Awareness The discussion expands into: • Infrastructure inequality • Energy systems (solar, EVs, grid stress) • Urban planning disparities 👉 Takeaway: Understanding tech and mobility helps people: • Anticipate societal shifts • Avoid becoming victims of those shifts 💬 Notable Quotes On resilience and adversity • “We’ve always been under attack… You can choose to be a victim or make the most of it.” On growth and adaptability • “You either evolve or die, period.” On entrepreneurship • “‘But’ stops so many phenomenal ideas.” • “If you can sell to one person… you can sell to ten.”…

## Transcript

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[0:48] Speaker 2: If you're a small business owner, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, influencer,
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[0:55] Speaker 2: get started. My guest is a serial entrepreneur, media executive
[0:59] Speaker 2: and business advisor more than thirty five years of building
[1:02] Speaker 2: companies from the ground up. He hosts Tech Mobility, the
[1:06] Speaker 2: nationally syndicated radio show and podcasts on mobility and emerging technology,
[1:12] Speaker 2: and as a founding member of the Black Automotive Media Group.
[1:16] Speaker 2: Please welcome the Money Making Conversation master Class. Kenneth Chester.
[1:20] Speaker 2: Hey doing, mister Chester.
[1:21] Speaker 3: I'm fine, Thank you, Thank you for having me.
[1:23] Speaker 2: You know, whenever it deals with media and your word
[1:26] Speaker 2: black in front of it, and you know that the
[1:28] Speaker 2: word black associated to anything is under attack by our
[1:33] Speaker 2: current president. When you hear being under when we see
[1:36] Speaker 2: the word black being under attack, what are the thoughts
[1:40] Speaker 2: that run in your mind?
[1:44] Speaker 3: To be honest, We've always been under attack, even in
[1:48] Speaker 3: the supposed good times, We've always been under attack. I
[1:53] Speaker 3: grew up in New England and contrary to what most
[1:55] Speaker 3: people outside of New England are told, it's probably one
[1:58] Speaker 3: of the most racist to the entire United States. So
[2:03] Speaker 3: I grew up learning how to function within that realm.
[2:08] Speaker 3: I saw this fellow when he came down and the
[2:10] Speaker 3: escalated ten years ago. I was not surprised at all,
[2:13] Speaker 3: not at all. So it's a matter of you can
[2:17] Speaker 3: choose to be a victim or you can choose to
[2:23] Speaker 3: accept it is the way it is and try to
[2:25] Speaker 3: make the most of it, because there are always opportunities.
[2:28] Speaker 3: You just have to be realistic about where you're at
[2:32] Speaker 3: what you're up against and the way forward. And I
[2:35] Speaker 3: honestly believe that in their attempt to put us down,
[2:39] Speaker 3: they're actually blessed us because they're forcing us to be created,
[2:42] Speaker 3: They're forcing us to reassess, They're forcing us to dig deeper.
[2:47] Speaker 3: And if our ancestors could do it to get us
[2:49] Speaker 3: to this point, we certainly can carry the banner forward.
[2:53] Speaker 4: Correct.
[2:53] Speaker 2: When I look at history, you know, anything that you
[2:57] Speaker 2: do is you thirty five years Let's talk about when
[3:01] Speaker 2: you got into the media and then the media as
[3:04] Speaker 2: it stands now, because you used the word tech mobility.
[3:08] Speaker 2: When you got any thirty five years ago, it was
[3:10] Speaker 2: just the word tech, and so that's a big That's
[3:13] Speaker 2: an education process too, And a lot of people over
[3:16] Speaker 2: the years can be resistant to change.
[3:19] Speaker 4: Kenneth, why were you not resistant to change?
[3:24] Speaker 3: I'm a believer that you either revolve or die, period.
[3:28] Speaker 3: I've always had that value. I've had to test that
[3:32] Speaker 3: opinion several times when I've gotten stagnant and basically go
[3:37] Speaker 3: against myself and said, you know, let me test that
[3:41] Speaker 3: because that may not necessarily been true. And I found
[3:44] Speaker 3: that to be the case. I've managed to grow because
[3:47] Speaker 3: I've been willing to think beyond. I do a lot
[3:50] Speaker 3: of reading and a lot of technical reading and the
[3:53] Speaker 3: course of my days to get ready for my radio shows.
[3:57] Speaker 3: So it's not hard when you realize now through history
[4:01] Speaker 3: that if you're going to be successful, you need to
[4:03] Speaker 3: understand that change is the only constant.
[4:07] Speaker 2: And that's important because people who are resistant to change
[4:11] Speaker 2: can become angry, or they can become combative, and also
[4:16] Speaker 2: can also be a person that can prevent you from
[4:19] Speaker 2: being successful. Now, who are the people that's around you
[4:23] Speaker 2: and building your brand tech mobility?
[4:26] Speaker 3: Oh mind? Well, I do film. I do record in
[4:32] Speaker 3: a black studio called Ao N Studios here in Des Moines.
[4:37] Speaker 3: They've been exceptionally supportive at helping me production wise. I
[4:43] Speaker 3: interact with a lot of folk. I'm a little bit
[4:46] Speaker 3: different in that I keep to myself a lot, and
[4:50] Speaker 3: I found for me the willingness to research and just
[4:54] Speaker 3: plow ahead tends to work better while having voices. And
[4:59] Speaker 3: certainly I have had people who have influenced me down
[5:02] Speaker 3: through the years at certain times who have dropped a
[5:05] Speaker 3: little bit of knowledge at a critical time. Particularly one
[5:08] Speaker 3: business friend of mine back about now thirty six years
[5:12] Speaker 3: ago gave me probably one of the most valuable piece
[5:15] Speaker 3: of advice, and I laughed at him when he said it.
[5:19] Speaker 3: He said, I don't want to make more work for you,
[5:22] Speaker 3: but with what you know, you ought to write for
[5:24] Speaker 3: the Des Moines Register. And I looked at him sitting
[5:27] Speaker 3: in his office and I laughed at him and I said,
[5:31] Speaker 3: you know, I hear you, but I'm sure I'm not
[5:34] Speaker 3: the first person to ever do that. Fate stranger than fiction,
[5:38] Speaker 3: And honestly, that one comment started me along this way.
[5:43] Speaker 3: The second, probably most valuable piece of advice I got,
[5:47] Speaker 3: which I've been able to modify and carry forward, was
[5:51] Speaker 3: from my first client on my automotive news service that
[5:54] Speaker 3: I built, a small daily newspaper about ninety miles from
[5:58] Speaker 3: Des Moines. He was a fellow who is an editor
[6:01] Speaker 3: still a personal friend of mine. He was also an
[6:04] Speaker 3: ad manager at one time, and everything the advice he
[6:07] Speaker 3: gave me and how to pitch to newspapers was invaluable
[6:12] Speaker 3: allowed me to build my first national company following that
[6:15] Speaker 3: piece of advice he gave me. But I've modified it
[6:19] Speaker 3: to learn one thing. If you can sell your product
[6:23] Speaker 3: to service to one person who's not friends or family,
[6:27] Speaker 3: one person, you can sell it to two, you can
[6:30] Speaker 3: sell it to five, you can sell it to ten.
[6:33] Speaker 3: You've just got to make the value proposition compelling to
[6:38] Speaker 3: that first non family member. And very often your first
[6:42] Speaker 3: customers will give you the knowledge you need to build
[6:46] Speaker 3: your business, and we're afraid to reach out to them.
[6:50] Speaker 3: And that's been my mantra even now down through the years.
[6:53] Speaker 3: It's remained and rung true always.
[6:56] Speaker 2: I'm talking to the host kin it Chester of Tech
[7:00] Speaker 2: Mobility to nationally syndicate a radio show podcast on mobility
[7:04] Speaker 2: and emerging technology. Let's talk about entrepreneurship. Okay, what's the
[7:08] Speaker 2: most dangers were in your mind in entrepreneurship?
[7:12] Speaker 3: The one I had to overcome first three letter word.
[7:15] Speaker 3: But people, I mean, let me give an example. It's
[7:19] Speaker 3: late nineteen eighties. I'm working for a fortune five hundred company.
[7:23] Speaker 3: I'm driving one hundred miles round trip a day. I
[7:25] Speaker 3: got three small kids, married, active in my church, totally
[7:29] Speaker 3: full time. I'm working for a company that's in the
[7:32] Speaker 3: process of consolidating. I don't want to move. My family's
[7:35] Speaker 3: not going to move. I'm throwing out resumes everywhere. Nothing's hitting.
[7:40] Speaker 3: So I'm on a plane trip business trip. I'm between
[7:44] Speaker 3: Chicago and Indianapolis, and I'm thinking about this problem. A
[7:49] Speaker 3: still small voice goes start your own business, and I started, well,
[7:55] Speaker 3: but I don't have the money, I have the time,
[7:57] Speaker 3: I don't have connections. But but yea idea wouldn't go away.
[8:02] Speaker 3: Kept nudging me. I started writing. I learned that for
[8:07] Speaker 3: most people you know, someday and butt but stops so
[8:14] Speaker 3: many phenomenal ideas because we look out there, and particularly
[8:18] Speaker 3: in this world of social media, we get overwhelmed. We
[8:21] Speaker 3: look at all these people doing all these amazing things
[8:23] Speaker 3: and you go me, oh, me really, But I learned
[8:30] Speaker 3: overcome the butt and you could go so much further
[8:34] Speaker 3: because nobody can tell it like you. Nobody has it
[8:39] Speaker 3: like you. Nobody has that spin on life experience, product
[8:44] Speaker 3: service vision for it like you, and the world deserves
[8:49] Speaker 3: to see it.
[8:50] Speaker 2: We know the interesting thing about And when I look
[8:53] Speaker 2: at individuals who techies you know and being able to
[9:00] Speaker 2: take a guy you are a tech expert kN it
[9:03] Speaker 2: and sometimes it's a techie can't.
[9:06] Speaker 4: Break it down.
[9:07] Speaker 2: So everyday people can comprehend why you so excited about it?
[9:12] Speaker 4: How do you balance that?
[9:14] Speaker 3: Well, let's correct one thing I'm I'm I'm interested in tech,
[9:22] Speaker 3: but if you get into like coating and all that
[9:24] Speaker 3: crazy stuff, my eyes glaze over, like everybody else is.
[9:29] Speaker 3: I would say that I am tech aware, and I
[9:32] Speaker 3: really think that's the magic because I don't go way
[9:36] Speaker 3: into the weeds. I kind of have developed over time
[9:39] Speaker 3: where that boundary sorting is where I think I can
[9:43] Speaker 3: bring my audience to before their eyes glaze over. I mean,
[9:46] Speaker 3: if it gets too technical, where we're talking about the
[9:50] Speaker 3: chemical composition of a lithium sodium battery, that's probably step two.
[9:57] Speaker 4: Far right, right, right, right right.
[9:59] Speaker 3: You know, well, it's good for them to know that
[10:02] Speaker 3: there's different technologies, but do they need to know the
[10:05] Speaker 3: chemical makeup of it. I might read it and get lost,
[10:10] Speaker 3: but that's okay. I also understand I'm not going to
[10:13] Speaker 3: take my audience that far, So I think that's kind
[10:15] Speaker 3: of it because I only want to go as far
[10:19] Speaker 3: as my audience has the capability to absorb. And I understand,
[10:24] Speaker 3: with everything in front of us right now, coming at
[10:27] Speaker 3: it from all directions all the time, overload is constant.
[10:32] Speaker 3: So I try to give you kind of the cliff
[10:34] Speaker 3: note to fight if you will, of the thing as
[10:37] Speaker 3: opposed to digging all the way deep. I give you
[10:40] Speaker 3: what you should know, what is aware for you to know,
[10:43] Speaker 3: and give you the opportunity as a listener to take
[10:46] Speaker 3: it to the next club if you want to.
[10:47] Speaker 2: What exactly are the top three or maybe top five
[10:52] Speaker 2: things that concern you about tech and mobility today.
[11:00] Speaker 3: Autonomous vehicles, electric vehicles, artificial intelligence would probably be the
[11:07] Speaker 3: top three to come immediately right there?
[11:09] Speaker 2: Stop, okay, Autonomous vehicle and electric vehicles.
[11:14] Speaker 4: The difference.
[11:16] Speaker 3: An autonomous vehicle. There are five different levels of autonomy,
[11:20] Speaker 3: from manual like we're used to, to full autonomy where
[11:24] Speaker 3: the computer does everything. An electric vehicle is propulsion. It
[11:29] Speaker 3: could be one hundred percent electric, what we call it
[11:32] Speaker 3: pure electric, which is still driver controlled. It can be
[11:35] Speaker 3: a hybrid, which is gasoline electric where you have a
[11:38] Speaker 3: gas motor and an electric generator working together. Or it
[11:42] Speaker 3: could be the typical what we're been used to for years,
[11:44] Speaker 3: gasoline or diesel engines. So those are different in terms
[11:49] Speaker 3: of one's propulsion and one is controlled.
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[12:24] Speaker 4: Okay, Now with EV's like electric vehicles.
[12:30] Speaker 2: As a country, I know that when Trump came into
[12:33] Speaker 2: the office, you know, he kind of like put the
[12:36] Speaker 2: kebbage on solar panel, I mean took away the tax credit.
[12:40] Speaker 2: I believe it ended in December twenty twenty five. As
[12:44] Speaker 2: a compty country, have we missed the boat considering that
[12:48] Speaker 2: electric the sun solar power energy should be like a
[12:53] Speaker 2: hand in hand relationship.
[12:55] Speaker 3: Talk to me absolutely. Here's the thing. We are five
[13:01] Speaker 3: percent of the world's population. We consume twenty percent of
[13:06] Speaker 3: the world's output. The United States of America. Anyone who
[13:11] Speaker 3: thinks that the shortsightedness of this current administration is going
[13:16] Speaker 3: to dictate to the world how the world approaches it,
[13:20] Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. Right now. China is the
[13:24] Speaker 3: number one, far and away biggest producer of EV vehicles,
[13:28] Speaker 3: solar panels, as much dirty energy as they produce, they
[13:34] Speaker 3: are also at the forefront of the cleanest energy they
[13:39] Speaker 3: can produce. And what people miss. People miss the fact
[13:43] Speaker 3: that evs are about conservation. It's so much more. Give
[13:49] Speaker 3: me an example. Regardless of what you drive, whatever it is,
[13:53] Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's gasoline powered.
[13:55] Speaker 4: If it is, yes, it is.
[13:57] Speaker 3: That engine weighs roughly six hundred pounds US hundreds of
[14:02] Speaker 3: moving parts and fluids and all this stuff and requires
[14:04] Speaker 3: maintenance and all that. How many parts do you think
[14:09] Speaker 3: are in an electric motor connectic, no fluids, no spark plugs,
[14:21] Speaker 3: a battery management system over the top of it. That's it,
[14:25] Speaker 3: no maintenance. They are automakers right now are developing electric
[14:30] Speaker 3: motors that will run a million miles. Battery prices are
[14:34] Speaker 3: dropping like a rock. Like I told my audience, they would.
[14:39] Speaker 3: Anybody who thinks this is about ecology is twenty years behind.
[14:45] Speaker 3: It's all about where we're going in terms of economics, efficiency, freedom, control.
[14:54] Speaker 3: It is way deeper than mere ecology.
[15:01] Speaker 2: Because I'll be honest with you, I am I'll relate
[15:04] Speaker 2: to the party with the solar power panels.
[15:07] Speaker 4: Solar panels.
[15:07] Speaker 2: If I if I knew now, i'd have done it
[15:11] Speaker 2: ten years ago on my property.
[15:13] Speaker 4: It would have owned the panels and been.
[15:15] Speaker 2: Off of the grid that goes up and down because
[15:18] Speaker 2: too many people are draining power from it.
[15:21] Speaker 4: And then I look at SpaceX and.
[15:24] Speaker 2: I see Elon Musk talking about putting data centers.
[15:28] Speaker 3: In space in space right.
[15:31] Speaker 4: Solar panels in power the data centers.
[15:36] Speaker 3: Mm. Absolutely, his whole argument is no clouds, no rain,
[15:43] Speaker 3: sun always. If they can figure out how to transmit
[15:46] Speaker 3: it from space to Earth concentrated, it's going to be crazy.
[15:51] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[15:52] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[15:54] Speaker 2: As you can see, I'm already on the same page
[15:57] Speaker 2: with you, Kenneth.
[15:57] Speaker 4: You're not good friends here.
[15:59] Speaker 2: Tech more mobility, because these are the type of questions
[16:02] Speaker 2: I think that in our community and people in general
[16:04] Speaker 2: should be asking. Because if you sitting around here with
[16:07] Speaker 2: the same approach that the garbage man gonna come by
[16:10] Speaker 2: your house and pick up your trash, or you're gonna
[16:12] Speaker 2: be going down the street and not gonna be impacted
[16:14] Speaker 2: by the grid that's being drained by these data centers,
[16:18] Speaker 2: you know that nuclear waste is not gonna become something
[16:21] Speaker 2: you have to deal with. Redirected rain water, redirected suddenly
[16:28] Speaker 2: turns your area into a Floodplaine. You know, you have
[16:32] Speaker 2: to understand what mobility means. You have to understand what
[16:35] Speaker 2: they do these maps. When these engineerings engineers coming here
[16:39] Speaker 2: and they laid our concrete, well, guess what water flows
[16:42] Speaker 2: a lot faster or concrete than it does on grass
[16:45] Speaker 2: and dirt.
[16:47] Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what this show has been going on for
[16:49] Speaker 3: over one hundred years, and.
[16:51] Speaker 2: That's what your show is all about, keeping us ahead
[16:53] Speaker 2: of the curve so we won't become a victim of
[16:56] Speaker 2: the curve.
[16:57] Speaker 4: Talk to mccount, you're right right.
[17:00] Speaker 3: Everything that you said, it is well documented and we
[17:04] Speaker 3: have talked about this on my program. The heat deserts
[17:08] Speaker 3: in the cities, the fact that if you go to
[17:11] Speaker 3: the upscale white neighborhoods, what do you find more trees,
[17:15] Speaker 3: more shade, more grass.
[17:17] Speaker 5: Cooler temperatures by believe it or not, fifteen degrees because
[17:22] Speaker 5: they've spent the money, and as a result, lower incidents
[17:27] Speaker 5: of respiratory and heart stress and all of those other
[17:31] Speaker 5: things that come along with it.
[17:32] Speaker 3: Because our folk usually in the city because we can't
[17:36] Speaker 3: afford to move out there. We missed the first go
[17:39] Speaker 3: round in the sixties. Maybe we've missed getting out there
[17:43] Speaker 3: or by the time we got out there, folks have
[17:45] Speaker 3: already started back and left their mess out there to
[17:47] Speaker 3: get us to deal with. Bottom line is there is
[17:51] Speaker 3: a once in a lifetime opportunity for us to embrace technology.
[17:58] Speaker 3: About a year maybe two years ago now, a reporter
[18:02] Speaker 3: from the Boston Globe interviewed me with his lead question,
[18:06] Speaker 3: why don't black folks buy evs was his question, and
[18:11] Speaker 3: we grappled with that. Any listener to my program understands
[18:15] Speaker 3: the evolution that's going on where their money should be.
[18:19] Speaker 3: And here is a messed up thing that I don't
[18:22] Speaker 3: think a lot of people realize. The current activities of
[18:27] Speaker 3: this administration in the straits of her moves have done
[18:31] Speaker 3: more for electric vehicles than anything he was trying to
[18:36] Speaker 3: do on purpose. And I will say this, somebody's thinking
[18:43] Speaker 3: and wants to break the cycle. Now would be a
[18:45] Speaker 3: good time to buy a used EV.
[18:48] Speaker 2: But you know, I don't have an EV not saying
[18:52] Speaker 2: that I shouldn't consider it, because I am considering it.
[18:56] Speaker 2: I think that as you go through the process of
[18:59] Speaker 2: it yourself, this is all about education, you know.
[19:02] Speaker 4: Yes, I got in a.
[19:05] Speaker 2: Driverless vehicle when I was in San Francisco, that, you.
[19:10] Speaker 4: Know, some I didn't have to deal with a driver.
[19:12] Speaker 2: I didn't have to tip, you know, saying it was
[19:16] Speaker 2: it was a very comfortable experience on my app I
[19:21] Speaker 2: it was a waymold. They came there, opened his doors.
[19:24] Speaker 2: I got in the back. Mind you, I did not
[19:27] Speaker 2: get on the freeway. I made sure where I was
[19:29] Speaker 2: going was going to be a non freeway transportation.
[19:33] Speaker 4: But I would do it again.
[19:35] Speaker 2: Because that is the technology that we will be dealing with.
[19:39] Speaker 2: But again, like all things, that type of community of
[19:42] Speaker 2: technology doesn't always make it to the Black community. And
[19:46] Speaker 2: so then so that experience we're not educated about. And
[19:51] Speaker 2: so I always tell people when I was growing up,
[19:53] Speaker 2: I grew up in a black neighborhood, Fifth Ward in Houston, Texas.
[19:57] Speaker 4: I got on the bus black people. When I got
[19:59] Speaker 4: off the bus.
[20:00] Speaker 2: I got off the bus on the black side of town,
[20:02] Speaker 2: so I saw more black people.
[20:03] Speaker 4: So all my.
[20:04] Speaker 2: Whole life, my first eighteen years, was a black experience
[20:07] Speaker 2: until I went to college was the University of Houston.
[20:10] Speaker 2: And so there are people who all they know is
[20:13] Speaker 2: the black experience. And if all you know is the
[20:15] Speaker 2: Black experience unless you go to an HPCU, which is
[20:19] Speaker 2: very good education which allows for I could just rattle
[20:23] Speaker 2: off how they dominate black education in this country and
[20:26] Speaker 2: excel in the corporate space.
[20:29] Speaker 4: We don't, we don't, we don't participate.
[20:31] Speaker 2: And so when you talk about solar power, that's not
[20:33] Speaker 2: going to be in the black neighborhood. You know what
[20:35] Speaker 2: I'm saying, the conversation about AI, that's not going to
[20:38] Speaker 2: be in a black neighborhood, even though our cell phone
[20:41] Speaker 2: is AI, when GP is that is AI. How do
[20:45] Speaker 2: we break that cycle? And can it be broken? Can
[20:49] Speaker 2: it chester.
[20:51] Speaker 3: Lot to unpack here? So I will, I will try to.
[20:58] Speaker 3: I'll be direct this, sir. It starts with communication. The
[21:03] Speaker 3: biggest challenge, this will blow your mind. The biggest challenge
[21:07] Speaker 3: I have and growing my group of affiliates across this country,
[21:14] Speaker 3: is that it is almost impossible to get on black radio,
[21:19] Speaker 3: get into a black newspaper with this information. Now, if
[21:22] Speaker 3: somebody could explain that to me, I fail to believe
[21:27] Speaker 3: that we as a folk are not trying to get
[21:30] Speaker 3: the most information we can get. We've got enough challenges
[21:35] Speaker 3: with the world trying to keep us from getting educated
[21:37] Speaker 3: without shooting ourselves in the foot. Part of that is
[21:41] Speaker 3: to avail ourselves and to acknowledge that not being monolithic
[21:45] Speaker 3: and we're not that what we need is a number
[21:51] Speaker 3: of voices that, yeah, it's okay for a brother who
[21:55] Speaker 3: knows a little something about this stuff to talk to you, right,
[21:58] Speaker 3: you know, keep them from the out, embrace them and
[22:01] Speaker 3: let him share it. Ask questions, get clarification, call them
[22:05] Speaker 3: out if you feel you need to. I'm a people
[22:08] Speaker 3: I can stand them on two feet. I'm good, but
[22:13] Speaker 3: I'm dangerous. But my point is this the irony and
[22:18] Speaker 3: you mentioned it at the top of the show when
[22:20] Speaker 3: it comes to black media, the work. The United States
[22:25] Speaker 3: of America never knew what to do with me because
[22:27] Speaker 3: of the way I was raised. Uh So, a lot
[22:31] Speaker 3: of my clients, a lot of my affiliates, this will
[22:35] Speaker 3: blow your mind, are not just white, they're far right
[22:41] Speaker 3: wing white. Most of my affiliates are ultra conservative outlets,
[22:48] Speaker 3: and they embrace me. Never got to never ever got
[22:53] Speaker 3: any hate from them. When I make the same pitch
[22:56] Speaker 3: and I'm carrying black stories, by the way, you know,
[23:01] Speaker 3: occasionally when one hits me, I'm a running and I
[23:03] Speaker 3: try to run that stuff. I've talked about a black
[23:06] Speaker 3: cycling club maybe four years ago. Professional Black Cycling Club.
[23:11] Speaker 3: And I mentioned the gals in the laundromat, so I
[23:14] Speaker 3: modification of the green book in Colorado. I talk about
[23:17] Speaker 3: stuff like that can't get any traction at all. So
[23:22] Speaker 3: I apologize for the long about to get to your answer.
[23:26] Speaker 3: But we need to avail ourselves of the information that's available,
[23:30] Speaker 3: particularly when it's us telling it right.
[23:33] Speaker 4: And I guess I got to cross the last line.
[23:35] Speaker 4: That's AI.
[23:36] Speaker 2: You know, where people have been told that they're going
[23:39] Speaker 2: to lose their jobs, that run AI is dangerous to
[23:43] Speaker 2: the workspace, and so who hears those scary witch stories?
[23:49] Speaker 2: The low income community, the community is of color. And
[23:53] Speaker 2: then what we do we don't embrace AI and the
[23:57] Speaker 2: job opportunity that they present. They can get them out
[23:59] Speaker 2: of the hood with significates that.
[24:02] Speaker 4: Will be three to six months.
[24:04] Speaker 2: Can get you out of the hood, can change get
[24:06] Speaker 2: you off Section eight? Because we have been down this
[24:11] Speaker 2: rabbit hole of AI is a bad thing. Resistant is
[24:17] Speaker 2: that propaganda being put out there to hold back the
[24:21] Speaker 2: low income community?
[24:22] Speaker 3: Are we.
[24:25] Speaker 4: Doing it? And where should the church going to the church? Now?
[24:29] Speaker 4: How can the church help us out?
[24:32] Speaker 2: Because I don't think they're doing enough job to understand
[24:35] Speaker 2: that they serve a purpose in turning their corner right.
[24:39] Speaker 3: I want every listener to this program right now to
[24:42] Speaker 3: pull up real close, okay, because I don't want you
[24:45] Speaker 3: to miss what I'm about to tech preach. Can't I
[24:48] Speaker 3: want you to miss a thing number one, Just like
[24:53] Speaker 3: over one hundred years ago, they passed laws they said
[24:56] Speaker 3: educating you was dangerous, and doing that with AI. Here's
[25:03] Speaker 3: the thing. Any student history knows that society goes from
[25:09] Speaker 3: one shiny thing to another. AI is the next shiny thing.
[25:13] Speaker 3: Here is the truth. AI represents a once in a
[25:19] Speaker 3: lifetime opportunity for folks of color do not only overcome,
[25:25] Speaker 3: but to be triumphant because you have the world at
[25:30] Speaker 3: your fingertips and you don't have to know how to code.
[25:34] Speaker 3: All you gotta do is talk to it, ask questions.
[25:38] Speaker 3: You don't even need money. A lot of these ais
[25:41] Speaker 3: there is free to start. Start playing with it. I
[25:45] Speaker 3: got turned on to it five years ago because a
[25:47] Speaker 3: good friend of mine, a brother, got up next to
[25:49] Speaker 3: me in twenty twenty one and said, man, you need
[25:51] Speaker 3: to be using AI. He told me that get it.
[25:58] Speaker 3: I started using it. It AI used correctly is designed
[26:05] Speaker 3: to augment your capabilities it's only going to replace the
[26:10] Speaker 3: folks that sit around and go pour me. If you
[26:14] Speaker 3: wait for it. It's like standing in the middle of
[26:16] Speaker 3: the street worrying about getting run over, waiting for a
[26:19] Speaker 3: dump truck. If you stand out there long enough, you're
[26:21] Speaker 3: gonna get hit. Bottom line, this is a once in
[26:27] Speaker 3: our lifetime gift that we've been given. Chat GPT, perplexity,
[26:34] Speaker 3: claude manners, open ai gemini. Use it if you don't
[26:39] Speaker 3: do nothing but go out and ask it one question,
[26:43] Speaker 3: whatever's on your mind. Test it, ask it something, learn
[26:48] Speaker 3: how to use it. And the best part is all
[26:51] Speaker 3: it takes is time. That's all you got right. You
[26:54] Speaker 3: don't need to go to the bank, you don't need
[26:57] Speaker 3: a loan, you don't need collateral time. Time, that's all
[27:02] Speaker 3: you need. And here's the best part. But you're gonna
[27:06] Speaker 3: tell me, but ken, I don't have a high speed
[27:08] Speaker 3: internet access at my house. The library does, yes, it does.
[27:11] Speaker 4: Take you a pad of.
[27:12] Speaker 3: Paper, go to the library. I built an entire business
[27:16] Speaker 3: in the nineties on my lunch hour in the library.
[27:20] Speaker 3: It's doable, people, It's doable.
[27:23] Speaker 4: Just stop being gullible. How about that?
[27:26] Speaker 2: Ken it man, I appreciate you brother h tech Mobility man,
[27:30] Speaker 2: I asked, you can see I'm join this conversation. Man,
[27:33] Speaker 2: I put my pad down, I said, I can just
[27:35] Speaker 2: talk to you. I don't need no questions because you
[27:38] Speaker 2: because you asking the things that I want to be
[27:41] Speaker 2: spoken about on my show. And you are, as they say,
[27:44] Speaker 2: a subject matter expert and a respected subject matter expert.
[27:49] Speaker 2: So how can we find you, my brother in syndication, I.
[27:52] Speaker 3: Don't I'm all over the place tech Mobility dot show.
[27:57] Speaker 3: That will show you where I am all over the country.
[28:00] Speaker 3: If I'm not on the radio where you're at, go
[28:03] Speaker 3: to your radio station and tell them you want it.
[28:06] Speaker 3: We'll add it. I got a book out for y'all
[28:09] Speaker 3: that need to get started, Kennethjchester dot com. Click that
[28:14] Speaker 3: and then click in the header the book. It'll explain
[28:17] Speaker 3: itself to you.
[28:19] Speaker 4: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation.
[28:20] Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I really enjoyed myself.
[28:22] Speaker 4: Thank you, brother. Don't go anywhere.
[28:25] Speaker 2: We will be right back with more insights from Money
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