# Overcoming the Odds: Shares his journey from struggling student with “wasted potential” to successful entrepreneur, speaker, and philanthropist.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 2 Apr 2026, 28 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Jeremy Anderson. 🔷 Interview Summary Jeremy Anderson—motivational speaker, founder of the Next Level Speakers Academy, and co-founder of Next Level Living—shares his journey from struggling student with “wasted potential” to successful entrepreneur, speaker, and philanthropist. The conversation focuses on: • Overcoming adversity and mindset shifts • Turning personal pain into purpose and profit • Building a brand through value and storytelling • Scaling influence through speaking and training • Giving back globally through philanthropy His message blends personal accountability, purpose-driven entrepreneurship, and impact-focused success. 🎯 Purpose of the Interview 1. Inspire personal transformation • Show how individuals can overcome “wasted potential” • Emphasize mindset, discipline, and belief 2. Teach value-based entrepreneurship • Demonstrate how to monetize skills, experiences, and personal stories 3. Promote purpose over profit • Reframe success as impact first, income second 4. Provide a practical framework for success • Offer actionable guidance for: • Branding • Speaking • Marketing • Career growth 5. Highlight impact beyond business • Showcase giving back through Next Level Living’s work in South Africa 🔑 Key Takeaways 1. “Wasted potential” is the core problem • Many people have talent but lack: • Belief • Direction • Execution • Anderson’s life mission is helping people unlock that potential 2. Personal responsibility changes everything • He moved from blaming others to owning his outcomes • Transformation began when he chose to “go all in” on himself 3. Purpose must come before profit • His academy filters people based on intention: • Impact first → sustainable success • Money-first mindset → limited growth 4. Your story is your most valuable asset • Pain, struggle, and experience can become: • Content • Business • Influence • But only if you share it (“testify”) 5. Value creation drives income • High earnings come from solving real problems, not just performing • Positioning matters: • People should feel they need you, not just want you 6. Business principles are universal • Branding, value, and positioning apply across: • Speaking • Small business • Corporate careers 7. Maximize every opportunity • Don’t just complete a job—extract long-term value: • Testimonials • Content • Referrals 8. Environment + mindset shape success • External environment matters—but internal mindset matters more • Sometimes success requires: • Changing surroundings • Rewiring thinking 9. No excuses—only ownership • Growth comes from: • Accountability • Learning from mistakes • Excuses block progress 10. Consistency + work ethic create results • Success isn’t given—it’s earned daily through effort 11. Success must include service • His nonprofit feeds 1,000 children weekly and funds education • True success includes giving back at scale \[JEREMY AND...SON iHeart | Txt\] 💬 Notable Quotes On recognizing support “I was just a man that was supported… covered in prayer… coached up.” \[JEREMY AND...SON iHeart | Txt\] On wasted potential “My life’s work is to help people not experience wasted potential.” \[JEREMY AND...SON iHeart | Txt\] On transformation “I stopped playing the blame game… and went all in.” \[JEREMY AND...SON iHeart | Txt\] On purpose vs money “Don’t come to me for…

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: My guess is one of the premier motivational speakers in
[0:02] Speaker 1: the country. He created the Next Level Speakers Academy well
[0:06] Speaker 1: he trains thousands of individuals to show them how they
[0:10] Speaker 1: can take their marketing and a message to the world.
[0:13] Speaker 1: He's also co found at Next Level Living, where one
[0:16] Speaker 1: of their initiative is to provide monthly mails to thousands
[0:19] Speaker 1: of young children and five Cape Town South African communities.
[0:23] Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations for the first time,
[0:26] Speaker 1: Jeremy Anderson.
[0:27] Speaker 2: How you doing so man, blessed man, good to see
[0:29] Speaker 2: how you doing? Really good man? Recent honored Man of
[0:32] Speaker 2: the Year.
[0:32] Speaker 1: Yes, Maxine King good friend of mine and I was
[0:37] Speaker 1: honored the host the metric Beautiful Wife.
[0:39] Speaker 2: There's a family affair. It was.
[0:41] Speaker 1: It was getting an honor like Man of the Year
[0:43] Speaker 1: before we get into an interview.
[0:44] Speaker 2: What does that mean to you?
[0:46] Speaker 3: You know, similar to what I should have in my
[0:48] Speaker 3: acceptance speech, right, like they were honoring me as Man
[0:51] Speaker 3: of the Year. But I felt like I was just
[0:53] Speaker 3: a man that was supported, a man that was covered
[0:56] Speaker 3: in prayer, a.
[0:56] Speaker 2: Man that was coached up. You know what I'm saying.
[0:59] Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, was a man that was
[1:01] Speaker 3: able to pay homage in respect to those who came
[1:04] Speaker 3: before me, who paved the way for me, right, So
[1:06] Speaker 3: I didn't want to say it before them, to say, yeah,
[1:08] Speaker 3: I'm the man of the year.
[1:08] Speaker 2: It's like, now I'm a man of the year because of.
[1:10] Speaker 3: My pop, because of my mom, because of my wife,
[1:12] Speaker 3: because of others who have poured into me to help
[1:15] Speaker 3: shape and mold the man you see today.
[1:17] Speaker 1: You know a word that two words is used a
[1:19] Speaker 1: lot with athletics, the word wasted potential. And I wanted
[1:23] Speaker 1: to bring that into our conversation because a lot of
[1:26] Speaker 1: people realize wasted potential applies to you. When I say you,
[1:30] Speaker 1: not you, I'm talking about you who are listening to
[1:32] Speaker 1: the show. And how do you derive with wasted potential?
[1:36] Speaker 1: And how can someone not fall in that pit? If
[1:39] Speaker 1: they fall in the pit, how can they climb out
[1:41] Speaker 1: of that wasted potential pit.
[1:43] Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, man, My life's work is to
[1:45] Speaker 3: help people not experience waste the potential because that was
[1:48] Speaker 3: once me. Like, I've always been this guy to my core,
[1:50] Speaker 3: but I wasn't living a life for purpose, right. So
[1:53] Speaker 3: years ago, when I was growing up drugging alcohol, abuse,
[1:55] Speaker 3: a diagnosed with ADHD, living without my biological father, like
[2:00] Speaker 3: fail in the ninth grade. Three different times I failed,
[2:03] Speaker 3: and I was blaming everybody else. But I got to
[2:05] Speaker 3: a point where I was like, I'm not playing the
[2:07] Speaker 3: blame game. I'm about to focus on me and go
[2:09] Speaker 3: all lean. And so I was able to rehabilitate my life,
[2:12] Speaker 3: my soul become this new person. And now over the
[2:15] Speaker 3: last sixteen years, I've been living this life of purpose.
[2:18] Speaker 3: And so I tell other individuals like a lot of
[2:20] Speaker 3: people have wasted potential. That means they got something great
[2:23] Speaker 3: inside them, but they don't see it. They got something
[2:25] Speaker 3: great inside them, they don't know how to tap into it.
[2:27] Speaker 3: They got something great inside them, but they think like
[2:29] Speaker 3: their time has passed. They got some great inside them,
[2:32] Speaker 3: but they can't get over the victim mindset. They got
[2:34] Speaker 3: some great inside them, but they don't know how to
[2:36] Speaker 3: pursue the thing that God.
[2:37] Speaker 2: Has already put inside of them.
[2:38] Speaker 3: So that wasted potential is a real thing that people
[2:41] Speaker 3: struggle with every single day, and so I try to
[2:43] Speaker 3: show them like, no, no, no, it's a whole little world
[2:46] Speaker 3: out here. There's so much more you can accomplish and
[2:48] Speaker 3: achieve if you believe and then you pursue it.
[2:50] Speaker 2: But most people don't be peid.
[2:52] Speaker 3: They don't believe it and they don't pursue it, and
[2:55] Speaker 3: so that's what we call wasted potential.
[2:56] Speaker 1: So I'm just building our conversation at Jeremy because I
[2:59] Speaker 1: think they're as a journey. When you are constantly motivating
[3:02] Speaker 1: people your academy, that's what it does, right, and one
[3:05] Speaker 1: wants to come to your academy. A lot of people
[3:08] Speaker 1: have a perception of what motivation is or what public
[3:11] Speaker 1: speaking is. When one comes to your academy, what are
[3:14] Speaker 1: you trying to achieve and what perception are you trying
[3:17] Speaker 1: to tell people not.
[3:18] Speaker 2: To come with?
[3:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, so the first thing is people coming all the time.
[3:22] Speaker 3: They're like, I'm trying to get the bag. They like,
[3:24] Speaker 3: You've been a sevend figure speaking for years. Out of
[3:26] Speaker 3: watching you, I see your house, I see how you live.
[3:28] Speaker 3: I want to be a speaker for the bag, And
[3:30] Speaker 3: I'm like, don't come to me for profits, come to
[3:32] Speaker 3: me for purpose, don't come for me for income, come
[3:35] Speaker 3: to me for impact. Because if your heart is in
[3:37] Speaker 3: the right place and you really do care about people
[3:39] Speaker 3: and you really do want to add value to the
[3:41] Speaker 3: people's lives. Now I'm i going to say you how
[3:43] Speaker 3: to live impact and make the income. Like I'm gonna
[3:45] Speaker 3: say you how to live a life a purpose and
[3:47] Speaker 3: make profits. So the first thing I look for is
[3:49] Speaker 3: din you even care about people? Because what I'm giving.
[3:51] Speaker 2: You it's too popent, it's too powerful, it's too annointed
[3:54] Speaker 2: for me to just give it to you.
[3:55] Speaker 3: And you go out here and just chase the bag,
[3:56] Speaker 3: but you're not really chasing the hearts of people.
[3:59] Speaker 2: And so that's the first thing I look for.
[4:01] Speaker 3: And then I'll take them to a process where I say, Okay,
[4:03] Speaker 3: now let me show you what it looks like, because
[4:05] Speaker 3: a lot of folks is like, I never thought I
[4:07] Speaker 3: made this type of money. I get so excited when
[4:09] Speaker 3: folks call me or face tied me and they in
[4:11] Speaker 3: tears and they like, man, I got one check for
[4:13] Speaker 3: an hour one stage, and this is more than I
[4:15] Speaker 3: would have made two three months breaking my regular job.
[4:18] Speaker 2: So we're showing them how to honest.
[4:20] Speaker 3: Their story, how to go deeper within, how to minister
[4:23] Speaker 3: and be a blessing and encourage people and inspire people by.
[4:26] Speaker 2: Sharing their story that was already within them. So we
[4:29] Speaker 2: talk about waste of potential.
[4:30] Speaker 3: I'm like, you're already went through all this pain, all
[4:32] Speaker 3: this hell, all this suffering, all this heartbreak, but you
[4:35] Speaker 3: overcame it.
[4:35] Speaker 2: But you keep it to yourself. It's only a testimony
[4:38] Speaker 2: if you testify.
[4:38] Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand this, Jeremy when we talk,
[4:42] Speaker 1: but we're talking about value.
[4:43] Speaker 2: Now, people pay you for your value. Absolutely talk to them. Yeah.
[4:47] Speaker 3: So I tell folks all the time, like, you want
[4:50] Speaker 3: to be valuable, you got to add value. So you
[4:53] Speaker 3: got to be willing to say, Okay, what can I
[4:55] Speaker 3: do to add value? What can I do to be
[4:56] Speaker 3: a blessing? How can I solve a problem? Speakers want
[4:59] Speaker 3: to jump on stage to speak. I'm like, let me
[5:01] Speaker 3: tell you something. They gonna pay you about twenty five
[5:03] Speaker 3: hundred dollars max for you to jump on stage to speak.
[5:05] Speaker 3: But when you started getting the ten thousand, fifteen, twenty thousand,
[5:09] Speaker 3: fifty thousand, I'm like, they're not paying me top dollar
[5:12] Speaker 3: just because I'm motivational. I am solving a problem. I
[5:15] Speaker 3: am adding a value. So now when we're building out
[5:17] Speaker 3: their brand, we're building out the language of that website.
[5:19] Speaker 3: You know what I tell them, I say, hey, I
[5:21] Speaker 3: want to make sure that it flows and it doesn't feel.
[5:23] Speaker 2: Like I want to book the speaker.
[5:25] Speaker 3: I want the consumer to feel like I need to speaker, Yes,
[5:28] Speaker 3: I need this speaker.
[5:30] Speaker 2: Like you're not doing me a favor by bringing me in.
[5:32] Speaker 3: I'm actually doing you a favor, and I'm about to
[5:34] Speaker 3: tax you or charge you.
[5:36] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying because I know the value
[5:37] Speaker 2: that I bring.
[5:38] Speaker 3: So I tell folks all the time, like lead with
[5:40] Speaker 3: value and show up and over deliver and the opportunity
[5:45] Speaker 3: is gonna continue to flow.
[5:46] Speaker 1: The reason I really wanted you and I'm glad you
[5:49] Speaker 1: took the time to come up my show, Money Making
[5:51] Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass, Jeremy, is that people don't understand that the
[5:55] Speaker 1: lessons you teach it your academy can be applied if
[5:57] Speaker 1: your small business owners can be applied for your fornio
[6:00] Speaker 1: or executive, a non executive and administration construction. So that's
[6:07] Speaker 1: the world of trying to really create here how to
[6:12] Speaker 1: take what you're training and let people know you can
[6:14] Speaker 1: apply it in your everyday life, eating in your relationship.
[6:18] Speaker 2: So the relationship part, that's all of them. The conversations
[6:21] Speaker 2: need to get to right but I'll.
[6:22] Speaker 3: Say this here, the same principles, the same business principles
[6:26] Speaker 3: that we teach people on the speaker side. It's the
[6:28] Speaker 3: same whether somebody got a construction company, whether they got
[6:31] Speaker 3: a daycare where they trying to open up a restaurant,
[6:33] Speaker 3: whether they do tax services or anything, or branding online.
[6:36] Speaker 3: You need to add value and then build yourself as
[6:38] Speaker 3: a credible source. You got to build yourself, but as
[6:40] Speaker 3: the expert, right, and so what have you gone through?
[6:43] Speaker 3: So there are some people you know this, right, Folks
[6:45] Speaker 3: mess around and go to college and you done went
[6:47] Speaker 3: to business class and then you getting taught about the
[6:49] Speaker 3: structure that ain't never filled out an EI in and
[6:52] Speaker 3: they ain't never got there.
[6:53] Speaker 2: They ain't never ran no business where they're teaching it.
[6:55] Speaker 3: When you go through the school of hard knocks and
[6:57] Speaker 3: you go through real life and you go through challenges
[6:59] Speaker 3: like life.
[7:00] Speaker 2: Has grown you.
[7:01] Speaker 3: So there's that instant credibility where there are people that's
[7:03] Speaker 3: watching your show right now and they got five, ten, fifteen,
[7:06] Speaker 3: twenty years of experience in their company, like there is
[7:09] Speaker 3: value that they can add. But how do they brand themselves?
[7:12] Speaker 3: How do they put themselves in the marketplace? How do
[7:14] Speaker 3: they carry themselves. Are they maximize every opportunity? So we
[7:17] Speaker 3: talking about money making moves we have in this conversation.
[7:20] Speaker 3: It's like when I'm gonna come in and speak work,
[7:21] Speaker 3: this is what speakers go wrong? Can I wax real quick?
[7:24] Speaker 3: They come in and speak and then when they get
[7:25] Speaker 3: done speaking, they just leave.
[7:26] Speaker 2: With a check.
[7:27] Speaker 3: It's like, nah, you stay behind. You get pictures, you
[7:30] Speaker 3: get footage, you get testimonials, you give referrals. Well, what
[7:33] Speaker 3: happens if somebody come in lake concrete on the property
[7:35] Speaker 3: I just bought.
[7:36] Speaker 2: They about to take pictures, They gonna put it on Google.
[7:38] Speaker 2: They about to.
[7:38] Speaker 3: Get some testimonials, they gonna ask for referrals. Like it's
[7:41] Speaker 3: the same type of system and flow, and so people
[7:44] Speaker 3: have to learn when it comes to business.
[7:47] Speaker 2: It's like juicing. I want to get every drop.
[7:49] Speaker 3: If I got a juicer and I'm putting carrots and
[7:52] Speaker 3: apples and all the shrewd in near I'm trying to
[7:54] Speaker 3: get every single drop out of this engagement, every single
[7:57] Speaker 3: drop out of this encounter, every single drop out of
[7:59] Speaker 3: the opportunity. And most people just kind of get whatever
[8:02] Speaker 3: they can get, but they're not maximizing that opportunity.
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[8:28] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations master Class with me
[8:31] Speaker 1: with Shan McDonald. If you're listening to the show or
[8:35] Speaker 1: watching the show speaking to Jeremy and Lison. He created
[8:38] Speaker 1: the Next Level Speakers Academy where he trains thousands of
[8:42] Speaker 1: individuals show them how they can take their marketing and
[8:45] Speaker 1: the message to the world. We're going to get to
[8:47] Speaker 1: another part later on in our interview where he co
[8:50] Speaker 1: found the Next Level Living where one of their initiatives
[8:54] Speaker 1: to provide monthly meals to thousands of young children and
[8:57] Speaker 1: five Cape Town, South African communities. Let's talk about how
[9:01] Speaker 1: does one get in touch with you, Jeremy.
[9:03] Speaker 3: So you know through my most people see myself on
[9:06] Speaker 3: YouTube when they're looking to book me. They'll see videos
[9:10] Speaker 3: under engages under what name Jeremy Anderson dot org like
[9:13] Speaker 3: they'll go to my website, but they'll typically they'll see
[9:16] Speaker 3: a motivation the video on YouTube, and at the end
[9:18] Speaker 3: they'll see my website. The music slowly fades out, black screen.
[9:22] Speaker 3: Jeremy Anderson dot orgs. That's my call asking, like I'm saying,
[9:25] Speaker 3: everybody come to my website. But when they go to
[9:27] Speaker 3: Jeremy Anderson dot org, they see all the different things
[9:30] Speaker 3: that I do in the speaking space. And so, you know,
[9:33] Speaker 3: like with other business owners, you gotta leverage social media.
[9:36] Speaker 3: You got levers content TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. You gotta
[9:40] Speaker 3: continue to add value, continue to get people the game
[9:43] Speaker 3: and be a blessing to them. And then when they're
[9:46] Speaker 3: ready and they're ready to spend, they're gonna remember the
[9:48] Speaker 3: people who remember them.
[9:50] Speaker 1: Here's interesting you feel nank three with three times oh man,
[9:52] Speaker 1: three different schools for the ninth grade. I always say
[9:54] Speaker 1: the two ladies in my life, Linda Trader and Georgia Nelson,
[9:58] Speaker 1: who kept me right. I was called him bumps when
[10:01] Speaker 1: I wanted to take the easy roller out in high school. No, no,
[10:04] Speaker 1: call my mom up there and my dad there. This
[10:06] Speaker 1: boy is special.
[10:07] Speaker 2: He's unique.
[10:08] Speaker 1: Kids, challenge, do not let him take the easy road.
[10:11] Speaker 1: Out and in order to fail three times, you were
[10:14] Speaker 1: taking the easy road out.
[10:16] Speaker 2: What got you on track?
[10:17] Speaker 3: So the first school I went to was a school
[10:19] Speaker 3: called oak Wood, and I said hunter Stood, Alabama.
[10:24] Speaker 2: And I was at oak Ward and I was off
[10:26] Speaker 2: the same.
[10:26] Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie bro I was fighting every day,
[10:29] Speaker 3: starting rumbles at the school, doing pranks. And the last
[10:32] Speaker 3: thing I did is our school got all bent out
[10:34] Speaker 3: of safe because I.
[10:34] Speaker 2: Cut the electricity off in the school. You know what
[10:36] Speaker 2: I'm saying. That school went black and they was like, Okay,
[10:39] Speaker 2: he gotta go. So that whole year wasted.
[10:41] Speaker 3: The next year I went to school called Johnson High,
[10:43] Speaker 3: also in Hunster, Alabama. But on the first day I
[10:45] Speaker 3: had one teachers like, I ain't putting up with your mess.
[10:47] Speaker 3: I heard all about you. I ain't the one. I
[10:49] Speaker 3: got kids older than you. You ain't got to be here.
[10:51] Speaker 3: If you want to be here, just that, just the
[10:54] Speaker 3: energy like you just met me. But she was already
[10:56] Speaker 3: stereotype in me. And she called herself drawing a line
[10:59] Speaker 3: in the sand, and I that I was like, I
[11:01] Speaker 3: ain't trying.
[11:01] Speaker 2: To be here anyway. I had some other choice words
[11:03] Speaker 2: for her.
[11:03] Speaker 3: Never really went to class, never really focused, never really
[11:06] Speaker 3: showed up, failed and wasted that whole school year.
[11:09] Speaker 2: Now the third year came around.
[11:10] Speaker 3: I'm at the school called Huntsville High also went Huntsville, Alabama.
[11:14] Speaker 3: And on the first day of school, the teachers was like,
[11:16] Speaker 3: we're so glad you're here. And I was like what.
[11:19] Speaker 3: They was just like, we heard so many interesting things
[11:22] Speaker 3: about you.
[11:23] Speaker 2: I was like wow.
[11:24] Speaker 3: They was just like, no, no, no, we believe there's
[11:26] Speaker 3: a scholar inside you. We believe that you can bounce back.
[11:28] Speaker 3: We believe there's a leader aside you. And so I
[11:31] Speaker 3: was like, wow, that's interesting. And so their energy was different,
[11:34] Speaker 3: and I saw that they kept showing up for me.
[11:37] Speaker 3: And when I saw their challenges and their pain, when
[11:39] Speaker 3: I realized teachers didn't have to be teachers, when I
[11:42] Speaker 3: realized they could have went into accounting and they could
[11:43] Speaker 3: have took up some other profession. When I saw teachers
[11:46] Speaker 3: that was diagnosed with cancer, one was grieving her husband,
[11:49] Speaker 3: you know, and said one used to be an engineer,
[11:51] Speaker 3: but he quit that job to be a teacher and
[11:52] Speaker 3: make a third of blessed money. Like when I saw that,
[11:54] Speaker 3: I felt they heart and they connected with my heart,
[11:58] Speaker 3: and I went all in it was like your you
[12:00] Speaker 3: believe in me, I believe in me, and so I
[12:01] Speaker 3: put my head down, handle my business, summer school, nice school,
[12:05] Speaker 3: caught up with my right grade, graduate from high school
[12:08] Speaker 3: on time, went to college, got my Baskelor's, got my
[12:10] Speaker 3: master's degree because they believed in me. So now I
[12:13] Speaker 3: trained is speak and motivate teachers, and I teach them
[12:16] Speaker 3: to teach by faith.
[12:17] Speaker 2: And not by sight.
[12:18] Speaker 3: Because I had other teachers that looked at me as
[12:20] Speaker 3: stereotype me right, But that third school, I came across
[12:22] Speaker 3: the group of teachers that chose to see the best.
[12:25] Speaker 1: And that's what you call environment. Absolutely, and so let's
[12:28] Speaker 1: talk about environment and mindset. And I like to be
[12:31] Speaker 1: able to keep this in the mindset of small business
[12:34] Speaker 1: owners who are surround generally surrounded by people who doubt
[12:38] Speaker 1: their success. Which could be your wife, it could be
[12:40] Speaker 1: your preacher, could be your co workers. Because everybody has
[12:43] Speaker 1: a stereotype of who or what you are capable of
[12:47] Speaker 1: achieving in life based on what they are right, And
[12:49] Speaker 1: that's the environment. How do you live in that same
[12:53] Speaker 1: environment but adjust the mindsets in that environment to achieve
[12:56] Speaker 1: your success well?
[12:57] Speaker 3: And sometimes sometimes you got to leave certain environments that
[13:01] Speaker 3: don't serve you well, you know what I'm saying. And
[13:03] Speaker 3: then sometimes there's also the environment of the mind because
[13:06] Speaker 3: add people say, go where you celebrated, now we tolerated.
[13:08] Speaker 2: That's deep. I get it. I hurt that twenty years ago.
[13:11] Speaker 3: But it's not always as easy to say I'm packing
[13:13] Speaker 3: up and I'm leaving this company, right, I'm packing up
[13:15] Speaker 3: and I'm leaving this marriage.
[13:16] Speaker 2: Like no, no, no, no, no, you are the common denominator.
[13:18] Speaker 3: You When they interview Nelson Mandela and they was like,
[13:21] Speaker 3: how does it feel to be free? My man was like, actually,
[13:23] Speaker 3: I was already free when I was behind bars, you
[13:25] Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So sometimes the bars and shackles
[13:27] Speaker 3: we have in our lives, it's what's happening right here
[13:29] Speaker 3: instead of our brain. And so when we change the
[13:31] Speaker 3: environment of our minds, that can shift everything. And now
[13:35] Speaker 3: when we see ourselves better and we value ourselves more,
[13:38] Speaker 3: and we see the greatness that's societies and now that energy,
[13:41] Speaker 3: other people are attracted to that work that we see within,
[13:44] Speaker 3: and then they changed our outside environment as well, And
[13:47] Speaker 3: that's how folks can go through a whole other level.
[13:49] Speaker 3: But it starts right here and right here. There are
[13:52] Speaker 3: two ways of being a professional.
[13:53] Speaker 1: Like you go to the outlook that can tell you
[13:55] Speaker 1: you can schedule your emails, and then you have to
[13:58] Speaker 1: sometimes tell people who you are.
[14:01] Speaker 2: And so I'll send out of emails.
[14:02] Speaker 1: I wake up before a third They give emails five
[14:04] Speaker 1: going out and they come back later going you really
[14:06] Speaker 1: were up at five. That's establishing your brand. What is
[14:10] Speaker 1: the Jeremy Anderson's brand.
[14:13] Speaker 3: That's a good question, man. I would probably say perseverance
[14:16] Speaker 3: in family.
[14:16] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
[14:17] Speaker 3: Half the time when I'm speaking, I'm talking about family
[14:19] Speaker 3: and the things I've gone through. You know what I'm saying,
[14:22] Speaker 3: because there has been no one that has grown me
[14:26] Speaker 3: and broken my heart more than my wife. Ain't no
[14:29] Speaker 3: other personal planet Earth has hurt me and helped me
[14:32] Speaker 3: as much as she didn't hurt me intentively. We was
[14:34] Speaker 3: just two young, broken people trying to figure it out.
[14:37] Speaker 3: So I made it to sixteen years in marriage because
[14:39] Speaker 3: I embraced a lot of that pain. And so a
[14:41] Speaker 3: lot of times on stage I talk about that because
[14:43] Speaker 3: folks see you making millions and they see successful those
[14:45] Speaker 3: stage It's like, but you ain't see me crying and
[14:47] Speaker 3: you didn't realize when I was depressed, and you didn't
[14:49] Speaker 3: see me in my own personal counseling sessions, and you
[14:51] Speaker 3: ain't seen me in my marriage coaching sessions, and you
[14:54] Speaker 3: ain't see me trying to figure out how my clear
[14:55] Speaker 3: payroll for one of my other companies, like you didn't
[14:57] Speaker 3: see to struggle. So a lot of times I'm on
[14:59] Speaker 3: that my brand is perseverance, and I would say my
[15:03] Speaker 3: brand is family and everything I'm doing, I'm helping individuals
[15:06] Speaker 3: go to the next level and I'm helping them experience
[15:09] Speaker 3: next level living. But in order to do that, there
[15:11] Speaker 3: is a certain number amount of pain that you got
[15:14] Speaker 3: to experience. But I really believe I'm accounted all joy
[15:16] Speaker 3: I really believe that these.
[15:18] Speaker 2: Things is happening. Don't happen to me, They're happening for me.
[15:21] Speaker 3: I really do believe the challenges and hardships are gonna
[15:24] Speaker 3: work out for my good I don't just recite that.
[15:26] Speaker 2: I really do believe that.
[15:28] Speaker 3: Internally, and that is something that I'm constantly pursuing. So
[15:31] Speaker 3: I'm letting folks know it's not gonna be easy. Guess
[15:33] Speaker 3: what a public service announcement the world not gonna give
[15:35] Speaker 3: you what you deserve. The world gonna give you what
[15:37] Speaker 3: you work for. You gotta show up every single day
[15:40] Speaker 3: and work for. You know what I'm saying. An nobody
[15:41] Speaker 3: give me nothing but an opportunity, you know what I'm saying,
[15:43] Speaker 3: And so you got to show up and work for.
[15:45] Speaker 3: So my brand is work, it's gret it's perseverance. But
[15:48] Speaker 3: it's also family, you know what I'm saying. Because it's
[15:50] Speaker 3: one thing for me to win the Win of the
[15:52] Speaker 3: Year award, but for my wife to sit back and
[15:54] Speaker 3: be like, yeah, but he's the man of my life.
[15:56] Speaker 2: That's what hits. Because they could have gave me the
[15:58] Speaker 2: Man of the Year ward and my wife be.
[15:59] Speaker 3: Like this, I think, stay hear me. Rights all crazy
[16:02] Speaker 3: to me at home. But the fact that what the
[16:03] Speaker 3: world sees is what people see behind doors, that's the
[16:07] Speaker 3: real victory for me. And so I will say that
[16:09] Speaker 3: that that's what my brand looks like.
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[16:37] Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald. Yeah, really interesting, Thank you for coming
[16:41] Speaker 1: on my show. I'm talking to Jerry Anderson found in
[16:44] Speaker 1: the Next Level Speakers Academy and and that's a nonprofit
[16:47] Speaker 1: Next Level Living.
[16:48] Speaker 2: Talk to my listeners about.
[16:51] Speaker 1: Excuses because we can tell people how we feel, whether
[16:56] Speaker 1: it's good or bad, but they really want to hear,
[16:58] Speaker 1: especially when they deem you being successful, right, talk about excuses.
[17:02] Speaker 2: So excuses is something I feel like every human struggles.
[17:05] Speaker 3: With because there's a difference between making an excuse versus
[17:09] Speaker 3: explaining where you are and what you got going on.
[17:12] Speaker 3: And so everybody's going to have a certain level of
[17:15] Speaker 3: challenges and situations. But what are you going to do
[17:18] Speaker 3: about it? And so for me, I try not to
[17:20] Speaker 3: make excuses. I try to take extreme ownership. So in
[17:22] Speaker 3: every single situation, I'm like, you know what, that was
[17:24] Speaker 3: my fault? What could I have done differently? Yes, this
[17:27] Speaker 3: went wrong and she dropped the ball here, but really, ultimately,
[17:30] Speaker 3: if I'm involved, it's probably something different I could have did.
[17:33] Speaker 3: So I try to get rid of excuses. And I
[17:35] Speaker 3: actually my team knows running joke across all of our companies.
[17:39] Speaker 3: They know that one thing that really takes me off
[17:41] Speaker 3: is excuses. I'm like, just take ownership. But when I
[17:44] Speaker 3: start breaking out in the hives and I start hearing excuses,
[17:46] Speaker 3: and folks is like, well if this would have happened
[17:48] Speaker 3: and that happened, well when it's I'm like, I don't
[17:50] Speaker 3: want to hear no excuses.
[17:51] Speaker 2: Just admit you dropped the ball. Just admit you make mistakes,
[17:54] Speaker 2: Just admit that you're human. I have so much respect
[17:56] Speaker 2: for that.
[17:57] Speaker 3: So I'm by yo, miss me with the excuses, because
[17:59] Speaker 3: I ain't never met nobody that become great from excuses.
[18:01] Speaker 2: And you can reach way more.
[18:03] Speaker 3: Accomplishments and way more success with criticism than you will
[18:06] Speaker 3: with praise and adoration. And so I tell folks like, now,
[18:09] Speaker 3: embrace it. You made a mistake, you dropped the ball,
[18:11] Speaker 3: you screw it up, but it's okay. But don't give
[18:13] Speaker 3: me a whole bunch of excuses. Tell me what you learn,
[18:16] Speaker 3: what you'll do differently next time, And that's how you're
[18:19] Speaker 3: going to start embrace.
[18:19] Speaker 2: The next level living. Next level living. Let's talk about that.
[18:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, because before I want to make sure go to
[18:28] Speaker 1: your website.
[18:29] Speaker 3: Yep, Jeremy Anderson dot org now is next Level Academy.
[18:35] Speaker 2: Around the next level speaking academy is separate.
[18:37] Speaker 1: So let's talk about because you speaking, I want to
[18:40] Speaker 1: also drive them to that website.
[18:43] Speaker 2: Talk about that, right, Yeah.
[18:44] Speaker 3: So we have the myself and doctor Eric Thomas d
[18:47] Speaker 3: T to Hip Hop preacher number one motivation speaking of
[18:49] Speaker 3: what I mean this brother charging one hundred and fifty
[18:51] Speaker 3: thousand dollars every time.
[18:52] Speaker 2: They take the stage. Right.
[18:53] Speaker 3: So, doctor Eric Thomas and myself came together years ago
[18:57] Speaker 3: and we created the number one professional speaking program in
[18:59] Speaker 3: the world. Like we've got an online course community, three
[19:03] Speaker 3: different courses, weekly coaching calls, speech practice calls, like everything
[19:07] Speaker 3: you need from A to Z on how to become
[19:09] Speaker 3: a successful communicator. Some people want to be motivational speakers,
[19:14] Speaker 3: some want to be educational consultants. Some want to do
[19:16] Speaker 3: professional development workshops, some want to do ted talks. Like
[19:20] Speaker 3: we literally cover every aspect corporate, faith based, men and
[19:23] Speaker 3: women empowerment.
[19:24] Speaker 2: We cover every aspect of our speakers community.
[19:27] Speaker 3: And we've got thousands of members across the country, a
[19:31] Speaker 3: dozen different thriving chapters in major cities, and we're literally
[19:34] Speaker 3: helping people quit their jobs for those who want to quit.
[19:38] Speaker 3: Some people love their career, they just want to speak
[19:40] Speaker 3: part time supplement and supplement their income. But I think
[19:42] Speaker 3: it's so crazy when I meet somebody that's like, I
[19:45] Speaker 3: love my job as a dentist or a teacher, or
[19:48] Speaker 3: I actually love what I do in construction, but I
[19:50] Speaker 3: made an extra eighty six thousand dollars speaking part time.
[19:53] Speaker 3: I get so excited when people are like, man, I
[19:55] Speaker 3: got my first ten thousand dollars check, and it blows
[19:57] Speaker 3: my mind their minds. I love it when people sa say, man,
[20:00] Speaker 3: I'm a six and I'm a seven figures. We got
[20:02] Speaker 3: several seven figure speakers now, and these are all people.
[20:06] Speaker 2: Were pure heart.
[20:07] Speaker 3: They would have took the stage to speak for free.
[20:09] Speaker 3: They've been doing it for free. But we show them
[20:11] Speaker 3: how to monetize their message, how to brand themselves and
[20:14] Speaker 3: really take themselves to market.
[20:15] Speaker 2: So I am so proud of it because.
[20:17] Speaker 3: When I'm seeing what it's doing for our community and
[20:19] Speaker 3: people across the globe, it's truly something special. So I
[20:22] Speaker 3: tell people go to Next Level Speakers Academy dot com
[20:25] Speaker 3: to learn everything that we've been doing in this space,
[20:29] Speaker 3: and man, we're helping people literally change the world.
[20:32] Speaker 2: Because it's one.
[20:33] Speaker 3: Thing for me and Et and Inkey Johnson to be
[20:35] Speaker 3: successful speakers, but now if I can help thousands of
[20:38] Speaker 3: other people become successful speakers, how much more good are
[20:42] Speaker 3: we doing out here in the world. It's like that
[20:44] Speaker 3: multiply effect. And so it's somewhere really proud of, you.
[20:47] Speaker 1: Know, the beauty of because I went to one of
[20:49] Speaker 1: y'all speaking engagements back in twenty seventeen. Okay, well that's
[20:53] Speaker 1: why I first saw you on State Okay, and actually
[20:56] Speaker 1: we didn't meet.
[20:56] Speaker 2: I just saw you on States.
[20:58] Speaker 1: Backstage talking to Thomas. But the audience makeup was very,
[21:05] Speaker 1: very white, Hispanic black. One would automatically think, Okay, he's
[21:10] Speaker 1: a black guy, it's gonna be a black audience.
[21:13] Speaker 2: That's not true. Yeah, yeah, so ET's brand.
[21:17] Speaker 3: I would say that our community, our speakers academy community
[21:21] Speaker 3: now is about seventy five percent African American.
[21:23] Speaker 2: But that's probably the State.
[21:25] Speaker 3: Ready conference that we did in twenty seventeen, and so
[21:28] Speaker 3: that was a nice mixture of people that came in
[21:31] Speaker 3: from all over the country and even abroad that want
[21:35] Speaker 3: to be motivational speakers or they want to just be motivated.
[21:38] Speaker 3: They wanted to go to that next level. They wanted
[21:40] Speaker 3: to be able to stay ready, so they ain't got
[21:42] Speaker 3: to get ready. So on what we found outside of race,
[21:45] Speaker 3: outside of political parties, man, outside of the different things
[21:49] Speaker 3: that divide us, there's way more than unites us. And
[21:52] Speaker 3: what we have found is that people are looking for
[21:54] Speaker 3: something real. People will look for something raw. People want
[21:57] Speaker 3: to live a life a purpose. People don't want to
[21:59] Speaker 3: have their livelihood only connected to the government and what
[22:04] Speaker 3: can happen.
[22:04] Speaker 2: They're like, they want to be free, you know what
[22:06] Speaker 2: I'm saying.
[22:06] Speaker 3: They don't want to be in that position where they're
[22:08] Speaker 3: not living to their full potential. And so people tend
[22:11] Speaker 3: to tap in with us when they're really truty to.
[22:13] Speaker 2: Go to that next level.
[22:14] Speaker 1: Like okay, the brother captures everywhere, every one of the disciples. Yeah,
[22:19] Speaker 1: of that platform, and now you're changing world, but not
[22:22] Speaker 1: only do your speaking, but through your next level living.
[22:25] Speaker 2: Yeah. South Africa? Yeah? Why South Africa? So I went there.
[22:29] Speaker 3: My first time in South Africa was twenty sixteen, and
[22:33] Speaker 3: I met some individuals there man, and it was a
[22:35] Speaker 3: great experience. I was in Johannahsburg, okay bird, and then
[22:39] Speaker 3: a few months some people there was like you were
[22:41] Speaker 3: too powerful. We need you to come to Cape Town.
[22:44] Speaker 3: I was like, where's Cape Town? There's like is this
[22:45] Speaker 3: stuff right here? Because now we gotta talk about stereotypes.
[22:48] Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because you talk.
[22:50] Speaker 1: About you've been sold a brand in America or what
[22:53] Speaker 1: Africa is?
[22:54] Speaker 2: Right? So going over there, there's a lot of uncertainty.
[22:58] Speaker 2: I pulled up at the Maslow hot Tell.
[23:00] Speaker 3: It's said, I've seen a Bentley, I seen a Masariety,
[23:04] Speaker 3: I've seen a Porsch truck, and then I saw Ferrari
[23:07] Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, like where the naked fulk playing drums?
[23:11] Speaker 3: And I walk in the mass Low Hotel and I'm like,
[23:13] Speaker 3: this is one of the nicest hotel.
[23:15] Speaker 2: They took me to my suite. I was like, what
[23:17] Speaker 2: in the world. I couldnot wait to get back to
[23:19] Speaker 2: the States.
[23:19] Speaker 3: Right.
[23:20] Speaker 2: They say, this ain't what you thought it was. It's sad.
[23:22] Speaker 2: It's sad.
[23:23] Speaker 1: We have to deliver that message because when you laying
[23:27] Speaker 1: nothing but beautiful black woman billboards of every artist that
[23:31] Speaker 1: you will see, you know, John Legend or Kevin the
[23:35] Speaker 1: Hard or whoever is this major start you see on
[23:38] Speaker 1: their billboards. You know, it's a major shift, and it's
[23:43] Speaker 1: a major insult to what the story they tell you
[23:46] Speaker 1: about Africa that is really working and succeeding in Africa.
[23:51] Speaker 1: That's the major thing that I was so disappointed, yeah, myself.
[23:56] Speaker 3: And so now so now I found myself an African.
[23:59] Speaker 3: I'm letting folks like, Africa is beautiful. My wife, let
[24:02] Speaker 3: me tell you something. She loves so much. She want
[24:04] Speaker 3: to spend six months now in South Africa. And E
[24:06] Speaker 3: t talking about you need to make it happen. I'm like,
[24:09] Speaker 3: you don't just do that overnight.
[24:11] Speaker 1: That plane ride because I fell in love with Durban Africa.
[24:16] Speaker 2: Okay, and man, I'm.
[24:17] Speaker 1: Looking at houses that plane ride though, brother, but you
[24:21] Speaker 1: change your mind.
[24:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you get used to that del to
[24:24] Speaker 3: one and then you go sleep and you wake number
[24:26] Speaker 3: you're there.
[24:27] Speaker 2: But it is a beautiful place. And after Joe Burgh, about.
[24:31] Speaker 3: Three months later, they brought me into Cape Town, which
[24:33] Speaker 3: is on the coast, which is, as you know, beautiful.
[24:36] Speaker 2: On that water.
[24:37] Speaker 3: And then about four months later they brought me back
[24:39] Speaker 3: to Cape Town. Well, by my third time in South Africa,
[24:42] Speaker 3: my handlers and people who brought me in. You know,
[24:45] Speaker 3: I'm staying at nice hotels. I was like, man, show
[24:47] Speaker 3: me the city. And they showed me where they grew up.
[24:50] Speaker 3: And I saw the hood. Now you know here in
[24:52] Speaker 3: the States we have the half and half nots. It's
[24:55] Speaker 3: different there. They're half notz is, third floors, no electricity,
[25:00] Speaker 3: ten walls. They might not you know, they eat every
[25:03] Speaker 3: other day, one meal. So when I saw the babies
[25:06] Speaker 3: and I saw the kids, it's like it pricked my heart.
[25:09] Speaker 2: And so we began to.
[25:11] Speaker 3: Like tie to an organization there and some folks there,
[25:15] Speaker 3: and it was like, man, we want to send a
[25:16] Speaker 3: couple thousand dollars, you know, send a month to just
[25:19] Speaker 3: feed some of these kids. Because I was showing them
[25:21] Speaker 3: how to do community outreach and I was showing them
[25:23] Speaker 3: how to be a blessing. And so we started to
[25:25] Speaker 3: feed my Sheep program. And so they was out there
[25:28] Speaker 3: feeding the kids. And when I saw how consistent they
[25:30] Speaker 3: were for about a year and a half, in twenty eighteen,
[25:33] Speaker 3: we set up our official nonprofit organization and since twenty eighteen,
[25:37] Speaker 3: we've been feeding one thousand starving children every single week.
[25:41] Speaker 3: They're in Cape Town, South Africa, across a number of communities.
[25:44] Speaker 3: And in twenty twenty we started our college sponsorship program
[25:49] Speaker 3: and since twenty twenty we put sixty kids through college.
[25:51] Speaker 2: There beautiful. Now that's a Shepherd website.
[25:54] Speaker 3: Yeah now that is yeah, yeah, now that is Next
[25:57] Speaker 3: Level Livinginc.
[25:58] Speaker 2: Dot org.
[26:00] Speaker 3: And I'm just gonna say this, out of all the websites,
[26:03] Speaker 3: if somebody is like, man, I want to book Jeremy
[26:05] Speaker 3: to come in and speak for my company in my school,
[26:07] Speaker 3: like Jeremy and it is in the Oragle, and man,
[26:09] Speaker 3: I want to have Jeremy, you know, coach me and
[26:11] Speaker 3: join the speakers Academy Next Level Speaks Academy dot com.
[26:14] Speaker 3: But don't nothing get me more excited then when people say, man,
[26:18] Speaker 3: I want to be a part of this piedentthropic work
[26:20] Speaker 3: because as a Now you know, doctor Maxine came right
[26:23] Speaker 3: who blessed both of us with the Man of the
[26:25] Speaker 3: Year war.
[26:25] Speaker 2: Let me tell you why I love her, dearly bruh.
[26:28] Speaker 3: When she saw that me and Tracy was carrying our
[26:31] Speaker 3: foundation ourselves financially, when she saw that ninety percent of
[26:35] Speaker 3: it was coming from us, when she saw we ain't
[26:37] Speaker 3: have no corporate sponsors like she was troubled. She was like,
[26:40] Speaker 3: you should not have to do this by yourself. And
[26:42] Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, this is what God told me to do.
[26:44] Speaker 3: Like I'm just gonna do.
[26:45] Speaker 2: What he told me to do.
[26:46] Speaker 3: And she was just like, I've got to help you
[26:47] Speaker 3: get some sponsors. Like she's like, you know what I'm saying.
[26:50] Speaker 3: So though I'm proud of the work we've done with
[26:52] Speaker 3: the sixty kids in college, the thousand kids every week
[26:55] Speaker 3: we feed, there is so much more work to do.
[26:58] Speaker 3: And so if anybody that you know of that might
[27:00] Speaker 3: be interested in working, it's with us and supporting one
[27:03] Speaker 3: time monthly donation next level Living Inc.
[27:06] Speaker 2: Dot org.
[27:07] Speaker 3: You know we're gonna make keeping greater impact together, So
[27:09] Speaker 3: thank you for asking about that.
[27:10] Speaker 1: It's three levels with just brother, you know from a
[27:13] Speaker 1: staying he wants to motivates you to win.
[27:16] Speaker 2: He's a businessman, and he gives back to the community.
[27:19] Speaker 2: That's it.
[27:19] Speaker 1: The one and only, Jared, Thank you to making Conversation
[27:23] Speaker 1: Masterclass absolute

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