# Career: She helps students, early-career professionals, and corporate employees understand how to successfully navigate career transitions and professional growth.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 11 Jul 2026, 26 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Telisha Roberts. Guest: Dr. Telisha Roberts, Founder and President of Creative Intentions Host: Rushion McDonald Topic: Career development, leadership growth, entrepreneurship, workforce readiness, and navigating today's changing job market. Purpose of the Interview The purpose of the conversation was to help students, early-career professionals, corporate employees, and aspiring entrepreneurs understand how to successfully navigate career transitions and professional growth. Dr. Roberts shared insights from her 26-year corporate career and explained how Creative Intentions helps individuals bridge the gap between potential and achievement. \[ The interview focused on preparing people for workplace success, leadership roles, entrepreneurship, and adapting to economic uncertainty, layoffs, and artificial intelligence-driven workforce changes. \[ Key Takeaways 1. Success Requires More Than Opportunity Dr. Roberts emphasized that securing a job, internship, or promotion is only the beginning. What determines long-term success is how effectively individuals navigate and perform once they enter those opportunities. \[ Takeaway: Getting the opportunity and succeeding in it are two different challenges. 2. Always Have a Plan One of the strongest themes throughout the interview was intentional planning. Roberts shared that before leaving her 26-year corporate career, she spent roughly a year preparing and developing a plan to ensure a successful transition. She encourages others to proactively prepare for career changes instead of reacting after a crisis occurs. \[ Takeaway: Faith, passion, and ambition should always be supported by a structured plan. 3. Career Development Is a Lifelong Process Creative Intentions supports: • College juniors and seniors • Early-career professionals • Managers and executives • Entrepreneurs • Small business owners Roberts believes individuals need guidance at every stage of professional growth. \[ Takeaway: Professional development does not stop after graduation. 4. Hard Work Alone Does Not Guarantee Promotion One of the most discussed topics in the interview was the misconception that simply working hard will automatically lead to advancement. Roberts explained that employees must learn how to communicate their value, connect their accomplishments to organizational goals, and demonstrate strategic impact. \[ Takeaway: Visibility, communication, and strategic alignment are as important as effort. 5. Tell Your Own Story According to Roberts, many talented professionals fail to advance because they expect others to recognize their contributions automatically. She stresses that employees must be capable of: • Articulating their value • Demonstrating impact • Understanding organizational priorities • Forecasting future needs \[ Takeaway: If you cannot explain your value, others may overlook it. 6. Mentorship Can Change Lives The creation of Creative Intentions was inspired by a young intern Roberts mentored who did not receive a job offer after her internship. The experience deeply affected Roberts and motivated her to create an organization dedicated to helping people gain the skills and support necessary for career success. \[ Takeaway: Investing in people can have a lasting impact on their lives and careers. 7. Success Has No Easy Path Roberts repeatedly emphasized that whether…

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. I'm Rashon McDonald, a host of
[0:02] Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to stop
[0:06] Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start planning your own. Now,
[0:10] Speaker 1: you don't want to miss an episode, so please take
[0:12] Speaker 1: a moment right now to follow or subscribe to Money
[0:14] Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass. It's free. You can follow me on
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[0:22] Speaker 1: to your podcast. New Money Making Conversations Masterclass episodes drop daily.
[0:27] Speaker 1: I want to keep you on alert because my guests
[0:29] Speaker 1: provide tips on how you can uplift your community, improve
[0:32] Speaker 1: your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be
[0:36] Speaker 1: a successful entrepreneur. Now, let's get this podcast started. My
[0:40] Speaker 1: guest is a proud HBCU graduate of Winston Salem State University.
[0:45] Speaker 1: My dear friend, Steven A Smith, graduating from that school
[0:48] Speaker 1: as well. She's the founder and president of Creative Intentions.
[0:52] Speaker 1: Creative Intentions was built to close that gap across every
[0:56] Speaker 1: stage of professional life, from the student who has not
[0:59] Speaker 1: yet taken that first step into the workforce to the
[1:02] Speaker 1: leader who has climbed as far as their current tools
[1:05] Speaker 1: will take them. She's here for that next step. Please
[1:09] Speaker 1: welcome the Money Making Conversation Master Class, Doctor Talisha Roberts.
[1:13] Speaker 1: How you doing, doctor Roberts.
[1:16] Speaker 2: I am well, how are you?
[1:18] Speaker 3: You know?
[1:18] Speaker 1: I I when I when I when I read that
[1:22] Speaker 1: out loud, I did intern ships in college, I worked
[1:27] Speaker 1: all shores and in turn I did architectural firmas and
[1:33] Speaker 1: intern and then when I got out and it prepared
[1:36] Speaker 1: me because I eventually got a job at IBM, it
[1:39] Speaker 1: prepared me for that world. Now, how exactly does your
[1:43] Speaker 1: company work, doctor Roberts.
[1:46] Speaker 2: Oh, we are a strategic partner for individuals and organizations
[1:54] Speaker 2: or even colleges and universities. And what we do is
[1:58] Speaker 2: we work within the visuals to prepare them for whatever
[2:03] Speaker 2: that next level is. So starting we start as early
[2:08] Speaker 2: as juniors and seniors in college and university helping prepare
[2:14] Speaker 2: them for the workplace. We work alongside your career services,
[2:19] Speaker 2: your career services center, your student success center, and we
[2:25] Speaker 2: kind of help navigate what that looks like when you
[2:29] Speaker 2: get that transition, that role. So it's one thing to
[2:33] Speaker 2: get a role, to get the internship, get that opportunity,
[2:38] Speaker 2: but it's another thing to actually be successful when you
[2:41] Speaker 2: get there, So we kind of stand in that gap
[2:46] Speaker 2: there to help individuals be successful there. And then when
[2:51] Speaker 2: you get into that role that you have worked so
[2:53] Speaker 2: hard to get to, we also help standing that gap
[2:57] Speaker 2: with you as you are moving up within an organization.
[3:02] Speaker 2: That's feeling that you often reach when you go from
[3:06] Speaker 2: individual contributor to manager of people and above. So we
[3:12] Speaker 2: help you fill those gaps and get to where you
[3:16] Speaker 2: need to be. And we're also finding that there are
[3:19] Speaker 2: some people that are saying, Hey, that organization that I
[3:23] Speaker 2: thought I wanted to be a part of, it's not
[3:27] Speaker 2: what I actually want. I now want to go into
[3:31] Speaker 2: entrepreneurship small business ownership, so we even help We are
[3:35] Speaker 2: even helping individuals fill that gap as well, because we
[3:39] Speaker 2: know that businesses often start at very different places. There
[3:45] Speaker 2: are a lot of people who are very skilled and
[3:47] Speaker 2: very passionate at what they want to do as far
[3:51] Speaker 2: as small business ownership, but being skilled and passionate is
[3:56] Speaker 2: very different than running an actual business, and so we
[3:59] Speaker 2: are also stuff in to help fill that gap as well.
[4:03] Speaker 1: So basically, you better have a plan and uh a
[4:06] Speaker 1: planet seeds a lot more happiness because if you because
[4:10] Speaker 1: once the happenings leaves.
[4:11] Speaker 3: Where's the plan? That's that's what you're saying in a sense.
[4:13] Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You gotta have a plan.
[4:17] Speaker 1: You gotta have that plane. You know, people always said
[4:19] Speaker 1: I've jumped out there on faith. You know, I woke
[4:22] Speaker 1: up this morning, you know, and I feel blest. Better
[4:25] Speaker 1: have that plan in between the blessings.
[4:27] Speaker 2: You gotta have plans.
[4:29] Speaker 3: You keep the faith, keep the blessing.
[4:32] Speaker 2: And a lot of people, a lot of people are
[4:34] Speaker 2: being displaced, right. I was just on LinkedIn today and
[4:40] Speaker 2: saw someone who had been displaced, and I know this
[4:43] Speaker 2: young lady, and I mean that type of thing you're
[4:48] Speaker 2: not even prepared for, right, You're not You're not thinking about, Hey,
[4:52] Speaker 2: I need to get ready for that next thing, that
[4:55] Speaker 2: next level for me. It just happened. And so I
[5:00] Speaker 2: reached out to her to connect with her as well,
[5:03] Speaker 2: to kind of help her begin to figure out what
[5:06] Speaker 2: that next move is going to be for her.
[5:09] Speaker 1: Let me ask you this before I get in ask
[5:11] Speaker 1: you to my next corporate question. Give everybody a little
[5:13] Speaker 1: background about your corporate world, because I think they need
[5:16] Speaker 1: to understand you.
[5:17] Speaker 3: You're coming from a source of.
[5:19] Speaker 1: Been there, done that experience, and you're motivated to change
[5:23] Speaker 1: people's lives because you walked those hawks.
[5:26] Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely so. I was in the corporate space for
[5:30] Speaker 2: over twenty six years, working in the same organization, and
[5:36] Speaker 2: I created a plan. I knew it was time for
[5:39] Speaker 2: me to leave, so I created that plan before I
[5:41] Speaker 2: actually did so, and it took me about a year
[5:45] Speaker 2: to get to where I wanted to be to make
[5:48] Speaker 2: that move. But while I was there, back in twenty seventeen,
[5:52] Speaker 2: there was an effort to expand opportunities for young people
[5:58] Speaker 2: to come into the organization different organizations. There was a
[6:02] Speaker 2: young lady who came into the organization and someone introduced
[6:06] Speaker 2: me to her and asked me to kind of, you know,
[6:09] Speaker 2: help her along, help shepherd her, help mentor her, and
[6:12] Speaker 2: I was absolutely open to do that. This young lady
[6:17] Speaker 2: did not get a role after this internship and she
[6:22] Speaker 2: was absolutely devastated. She called me and she was in tears.
[6:26] Speaker 2: She said, you know, I'm going back to a small
[6:29] Speaker 2: town and there's no opportunities there. This was going to
[6:33] Speaker 2: be that opportunity for me, and she was actually in tears.
[6:37] Speaker 2: And after I hung up the phone with her, I
[6:39] Speaker 2: was in tears, and I felt like I could have
[6:41] Speaker 2: done more to assist her, and I said, I will
[6:45] Speaker 2: never feel this way again. What can I do? So
[6:49] Speaker 2: that's when I started Creative Intentions. I actually didn't have
[6:55] Speaker 2: a logo, I didn't have a brand, any brand and recognition.
[7:01] Speaker 2: I just got started. Started in the local library in
[7:04] Speaker 2: Winston Salem, North Carolina, doing personal and professional development training.
[7:10] Speaker 2: In one of the rooms there was a free room
[7:12] Speaker 2: that gave me a free room. I bought snacks. My
[7:15] Speaker 2: husband went out and pulled people off the streets that hey,
[7:18] Speaker 2: you got to come and listen to what will my
[7:20] Speaker 2: wife is talking about. And we filled rooms and that
[7:25] Speaker 2: showed me that there was a need for what I
[7:27] Speaker 2: was doing. And I just kept going and kept going,
[7:30] Speaker 2: and kept planning, and kept id eating and kept planning,
[7:34] Speaker 2: and we went on to do some amazing work. We
[7:37] Speaker 2: did some work with VISA and their Visa Black Scholar
[7:40] Speaker 2: and Jobs program doing professional and personal development training. And
[7:45] Speaker 2: we're just doing some amazing things with some amazing young people,
[7:49] Speaker 2: with some amazing early career professionals and even those that
[7:54] Speaker 2: have been in the corporate space for many years. We're
[7:58] Speaker 2: just starting to do a lot with entrepreneurs and small
[8:02] Speaker 2: business ownership, economic development. So it's been an amazing journey
[8:09] Speaker 2: and I every day I wake up looking forward to
[8:12] Speaker 2: where this path is going to take us.
[8:14] Speaker 1: Next, stay with us more money Making Conversation masking Lass
[8:18] Speaker 1: coming up next. Welcome back to money Making Conversation mastic
[8:25] Speaker 1: lass with me Rashawn McDonald.
[8:27] Speaker 3: Cool.
[8:27] Speaker 1: If you want to speak to doctor Roberts four zero
[8:30] Speaker 1: four eight eight zero down two five to five. That's
[8:32] Speaker 1: four zero four eight eight zero nine two five to five.
[8:36] Speaker 1: Here's a question. Being the hardest worker in the room
[8:39] Speaker 1: will not get you promoted?
[8:40] Speaker 3: Why not?
[8:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something that I used to think. You know,
[8:45] Speaker 2: I used to think that, you know, you work hard,
[8:49] Speaker 2: put your head down, someone is going to eventually notice
[8:53] Speaker 2: all your wonderful work. Well, that does not happen. If
[8:57] Speaker 2: you cannot properly articulate your value to an organization and
[9:05] Speaker 2: tie the projects and things that you work on to
[9:09] Speaker 2: those overall goals and objectives of that organization, then you
[9:13] Speaker 2: are going to be quietly lost. And so you have
[9:18] Speaker 2: to It is a absolute must that you know how
[9:21] Speaker 2: to articulate that, that you know how to draw those
[9:25] Speaker 2: those lines, solid lines as well as dot it lines
[9:29] Speaker 2: to your organization's goals and objectives. It's the very imperative
[9:34] Speaker 2: that you can look outward to understand, you know, the
[9:39] Speaker 2: changes that are happening in your organization, what your leadership
[9:43] Speaker 2: is looking for, what they're looking for, and they don't
[9:46] Speaker 2: know that they're looking for it. So you have to
[9:49] Speaker 2: learn how to do forecasting. But you have to learn
[9:52] Speaker 2: how to tell your own story. No one is going
[9:56] Speaker 2: to tell your story for you.
[9:59] Speaker 1: You know, but you know in that corporate space because
[10:03] Speaker 1: everybody wants to get it at corporate space, or wants
[10:07] Speaker 1: to be at the entrepreneur, or wants to go to college,
[10:10] Speaker 1: or wants to get a certificate.
[10:11] Speaker 3: There are so many changes from when I went to college.
[10:13] Speaker 1: The number one thing that when I went to college,
[10:16] Speaker 1: when I got my job at IBM, I thought I
[10:18] Speaker 1: was in heaven.
[10:19] Speaker 3: And I guess what. I still believe that.
[10:21] Speaker 1: Was one of the best jobs I ever had in
[10:23] Speaker 1: my life because it prepared me in so many ways.
[10:26] Speaker 1: And I still use the working capital that they trained
[10:29] Speaker 1: me under in my life today. But these are that
[10:33] Speaker 1: hard work and I wanted to stay there for a
[10:34] Speaker 1: minute because you know, as a black person, it always
[10:39] Speaker 1: says I got to work twice as hard to get
[10:42] Speaker 1: the same benefits or make the same revenue or get
[10:45] Speaker 1: the same recognition in the corporate space. You know, when
[10:50] Speaker 1: I worked that IBUM, I lost a majority of white people,
[10:53] Speaker 1: so I felt I had to work twice as hard
[10:55] Speaker 1: to get there was that a model of of incorrect
[11:02] Speaker 1: perception because I want to stay on the work twice
[11:06] Speaker 1: as hard a statement, because I've heard it all my life.
[11:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there could be some validity to that
[11:17] Speaker 2: or some truthfulness to that. It really depends on where
[11:20] Speaker 2: you are, Okay, it depends on the organization that you
[11:24] Speaker 2: are in the industry that you are in. I think
[11:27] Speaker 2: very much so that that is the case, probably widely.
[11:32] Speaker 2: But I do think that there are some things that
[11:35] Speaker 2: you really need to understand about your industry and the
[11:37] Speaker 2: changes within that industry. I do think that you really
[11:41] Speaker 2: need to understand the organization that you work in, look
[11:46] Speaker 2: at your leadership, not just the current leadership, but leadership
[11:49] Speaker 2: over time, and see what your organization really values. I
[11:56] Speaker 2: believe that every organization has a heartbeat, a nucleus, they
[12:03] Speaker 2: have a background, and if you really get to understand
[12:08] Speaker 2: your organization perfectly before you get there, you can really
[12:14] Speaker 2: understand a little bit about how you're going to have
[12:17] Speaker 2: to navigate when you.
[12:18] Speaker 3: Get in, you know you do the thing about it,
[12:21] Speaker 3: Doctor Roberts.
[12:23] Speaker 1: I look back on my life and I realized that
[12:27] Speaker 1: I did work hard.
[12:28] Speaker 3: I did believe that I had to work more, and
[12:32] Speaker 3: I guess what, And no shame in my game.
[12:34] Speaker 1: And I will tell anybody else the hard work will
[12:37] Speaker 1: get you somewhere. A lack of work will get you nowhere.
[12:42] Speaker 1: And I think that is and I think that it's
[12:44] Speaker 1: all about competition, and if you're a competitive person, you'll
[12:49] Speaker 1: be successful. And how you want to compete will be determined,
[12:54] Speaker 1: will determine how hard you want to work. I like
[12:57] Speaker 1: to believe that Michael Jordan, you know, it was a
[12:59] Speaker 1: lot of people. You can dunk, a lot of people
[13:01] Speaker 1: can dribble between their legs. But to understanding, Kobe Bryant
[13:06] Speaker 1: was an incredibly hard worker. Michael Jordan was an incredibly
[13:10] Speaker 1: hard worker, and so hard work. And I'm not denouncing
[13:14] Speaker 1: anything you say, and I'm just talking in general. Hard
[13:17] Speaker 1: work can't be a deciding factor and there's nothing to
[13:20] Speaker 1: do with race. You work hard, there will be some
[13:24] Speaker 1: results that would lead to a lot better if you
[13:27] Speaker 1: consider ound complaining.
[13:28] Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more, doctor Robins.
[13:30] Speaker 1: She's fantastic and scaling your life just about scaling your
[13:35] Speaker 1: life to another level, and she's doing it with Creative
[13:38] Speaker 1: Intentions in North Carolina.
[13:40] Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere, Please don't go anywhere.
[13:43] Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
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[14:08] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation Masterclass hosted by me
[14:12] Speaker 1: Rashawn McDonald. Let's get back into it, Doctor Roberts. How
[14:15] Speaker 1: do we get in touch with you?
[14:18] Speaker 2: So you can find me at Creative Intentions, Inc. That's
[14:24] Speaker 2: from North Carolina dot com now even though there's an
[14:27] Speaker 2: n C there. We also support clients all across the US,
[14:33] Speaker 2: and we are actually having conversations right now to move
[14:37] Speaker 2: outside of the US, so we are super excited about that.
[14:41] Speaker 2: We perform at scale, so no project is too large
[14:49] Speaker 2: or too small for us. We have a great team
[14:52] Speaker 2: of folks that are there to give you that personalized
[14:56] Speaker 2: service that you need, So reach out to me directly
[15:00] Speaker 2: on our website or just shoot me an email at
[15:04] Speaker 2: Telisha at Creative Intentions Inc. Dot com.
[15:10] Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting, doctor Roberts when I because
[15:13] Speaker 1: whenever I interview you always make me think about think
[15:16] Speaker 1: about my life now and think about my life when
[15:19] Speaker 1: I was younger. Think about because there's so many different
[15:23] Speaker 1: ways to be successful, there's so many different ways to
[15:26] Speaker 1: work hard, and there's so many things that you can
[15:29] Speaker 1: consider a career. When people come to you and they
[15:33] Speaker 1: feel stuck, how do you get them pointing in the
[15:38] Speaker 1: right direction. How do you break down what is really
[15:41] Speaker 1: stopping them from being successful?
[15:44] Speaker 2: Well, one of the first things that we do. First
[15:47] Speaker 2: of all, no two people are the same, so we
[15:51] Speaker 2: take a very individualized approach when we are working with individuals,
[15:56] Speaker 2: when we're working with colleges and universities, as well as
[16:00] Speaker 2: when we're working with organizations. No two are the same.
[16:05] Speaker 2: So we first take the time to understand who that
[16:08] Speaker 2: person that organization is. We have some assessments. That's where
[16:14] Speaker 2: we really start, so that we can understand where you
[16:18] Speaker 2: are as a leader, what your strengths are, what your
[16:22] Speaker 2: preferences are and really get to know you. Going back
[16:27] Speaker 2: to that hard work, one of the things that I
[16:29] Speaker 2: want to add is that we understand that hard work
[16:34] Speaker 2: is across the board, right. What we do is hard work.
[16:39] Speaker 2: The work that we do with every individual, with every
[16:42] Speaker 2: organization is very hard work. We ask tough questions and
[16:46] Speaker 2: we get you to ask those tough questions to yourself.
[16:50] Speaker 2: You can't fool yourself, right, and it doesn't matter. I
[16:54] Speaker 2: have some young people that will come and they will say, oh,
[16:58] Speaker 2: I want to get a content creator. That doesn't mean
[17:00] Speaker 2: you're not working hard. It's probably you're going to work harder. Right.
[17:05] Speaker 2: So there is no there is no easy path to success.
[17:11] Speaker 2: As anyone that is successful, there is no easy path.
[17:15] Speaker 2: You're probably going to work more hard than you ever
[17:20] Speaker 2: have before, especially if you're doing something that is you know,
[17:26] Speaker 2: in the entrepreneurship space, in the small business space, you're
[17:30] Speaker 2: going to work even harder than you would if you're
[17:33] Speaker 2: working for someone else. So hard work is going to happen.
[17:37] Speaker 2: But we start with that understanding. One of the things
[17:40] Speaker 2: that I talked to, particularly with my early career professionals,
[17:45] Speaker 2: is that understanding that hey, this is all hard work.
[17:49] Speaker 2: You have to understand you have to be ready to
[17:52] Speaker 2: do the hard work, or we'll wait until you're ready.
[17:57] Speaker 1: You know, there's really I'm over smiling when I listen
[18:00] Speaker 1: to you talk, because again, you bring up so many
[18:04] Speaker 1: memories of myself, and a lot of times I've questioned
[18:10] Speaker 1: myself I look back on my past. I think some
[18:13] Speaker 1: people don't look back on their past. They only think
[18:17] Speaker 1: about their future, and that future can make them nervous or.
[18:19] Speaker 3: Fearful of options.
[18:21] Speaker 1: But I always tell people to look back, and sometimes
[18:23] Speaker 1: you can understand it can help you move forward. Now,
[18:26] Speaker 1: with that being said, you are talking to people and
[18:31] Speaker 1: trying to motivate them to be the best that they
[18:33] Speaker 1: can be. What if they don't see the best that
[18:36] Speaker 1: they can be, doctor Roberts.
[18:40] Speaker 2: Sometimes that happens, right when you think about how we
[18:44] Speaker 2: all come from different places, different spaces, different experiences, different
[18:51] Speaker 2: upbringing and sometimes if you have not been in spaces
[18:57] Speaker 2: where that has been a practice, some people have grown
[19:02] Speaker 2: up in families where it is a practice to talk
[19:08] Speaker 2: about themselves or talk about what they're good at and
[19:12] Speaker 2: ideate and explore the creative those type of things, and
[19:17] Speaker 2: those type of things really build you as an individual,
[19:21] Speaker 2: but not all families work or operate that way. So
[19:24] Speaker 2: sometimes you have to just take some time and invest
[19:27] Speaker 2: in people and help them see what they have to offer.
[19:32] Speaker 2: And we take that time. We are not these one
[19:37] Speaker 2: of these cookie cutter organizations that's doing the same thing
[19:42] Speaker 2: for everyone. We take the time and invest in people
[19:47] Speaker 2: because someone took the time to invest in me. And
[19:52] Speaker 2: so that is why I am where I am today,
[19:56] Speaker 2: is because there were people that invested in me the
[20:00] Speaker 2: time to sit with me, to encourage me, to mentor me.
[20:05] Speaker 2: And we take that time to do the same thing
[20:08] Speaker 2: for every single person who is in any of our programs.
[20:13] Speaker 1: I'm telling you them, doct Borer, I just love your
[20:15] Speaker 1: voice tone. You know I've jabbed at you a couple
[20:18] Speaker 1: of times.
[20:18] Speaker 3: You did come back. Don't worry about it, Shine, Life's
[20:22] Speaker 3: gonna be good. What if I don't believe in myself,
[20:25] Speaker 3: don't worry about shine?
[20:26] Speaker 2: No, Come on, all of us, all of us go
[20:30] Speaker 2: through that at some point in our lives, right right,
[20:33] Speaker 2: all of us. What you hear from me today was
[20:37] Speaker 2: not always this. It has taken me near to get
[20:41] Speaker 2: to this place. I understand that I understand that everyone
[20:46] Speaker 2: can't be like me. It takes some time, it takes
[20:49] Speaker 2: some effort, it takes some energy, it takes the falling down.
[20:52] Speaker 2: I've got far as a shot.
[20:56] Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a beautiful thing because I think that
[20:59] Speaker 1: people need to understand that you have to have a
[21:01] Speaker 1: certain atone in all levels of stress excitement.
[21:08] Speaker 3: You know, like I said, you can't get too high,
[21:09] Speaker 3: you can't get too low.
[21:11] Speaker 1: And I say that because when people come to you,
[21:14] Speaker 1: they know they getting a polished person who's going to
[21:17] Speaker 1: react and they even kill manner. Because right now, a
[21:21] Speaker 1: college graduate with a brand new degree is entering one
[21:23] Speaker 1: of the most hostile entry level job markets and recent
[21:27] Speaker 1: mass layoffs.
[21:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, AI, every time you turn AI, AI is gonna
[21:31] Speaker 3: take your job. Hey, I don't care about your degree.
[21:34] Speaker 3: AI is really your degree.
[21:36] Speaker 1: And so how do you deal with that level of
[21:40] Speaker 1: job a hostility when they still in colleges in college
[21:46] Speaker 1: and when they graduate, and then the ones who in
[21:48] Speaker 1: business feel feeling that they're about to get rubbed out
[21:51] Speaker 1: because AI is out there and maybe sitting around the
[21:54] Speaker 1: corner on somebody's keyboard.
[21:56] Speaker 2: Listen, first of all, it's real. First of all, is real.
[22:01] Speaker 2: It's not just anxiety or anxious or the topic of
[22:05] Speaker 2: the day. It is real. There are companies that are
[22:09] Speaker 2: taking dollars to the bottom line so they can reinvest
[22:13] Speaker 2: into AI. And what that reinvestment looks like for entry
[22:17] Speaker 2: level positions is they're no longer there and those that
[22:23] Speaker 2: may be there are in competition. You have a group
[22:28] Speaker 2: of people that have been separated from organizations that they've
[22:32] Speaker 2: been in ten, fifteen, twenty years, so they are also
[22:36] Speaker 2: competing for entry level positions. So this is real. But
[22:42] Speaker 2: here's the thing that I think about Rashwan, this is
[22:45] Speaker 2: just where we are. We have to learn how to
[22:48] Speaker 2: be strategic. We have to learn how to get in
[22:51] Speaker 2: front of the problem and be proactive instead of reactive.
[22:56] Speaker 2: One of the things about me is it doesn't matter.
[23:01] Speaker 2: I'm even killed just like this, even when times are
[23:05] Speaker 2: really really tough for me. And to be quite honest,
[23:09] Speaker 2: when I was in the corporate space, I used to
[23:11] Speaker 2: get dinged for that. I walked had a manager that
[23:16] Speaker 2: told me, you know, you really don't move. You know,
[23:20] Speaker 2: you're not shaken, you don't have a sense of urgency.
[23:24] Speaker 2: And I do have a sense of urgency, but I'm
[23:26] Speaker 2: not going to respond to it the way you do.
[23:31] Speaker 2: I'm still going to be urgent, but my urgent looks different.
[23:34] Speaker 2: I remember I was in a store years ago, myself
[23:39] Speaker 2: and my youngest daughter, and there was a message that
[23:43] Speaker 2: came over the intercom that said, hey, that there's a
[23:45] Speaker 2: tornado that just touched down and everybody needed to move
[23:49] Speaker 2: to this certain part of the store. My daughter began
[23:52] Speaker 2: to panic, and I said, hey, listen, we need to
[23:56] Speaker 2: calm down. We need to operate with as much information
[24:01] Speaker 2: as we can, as much piece as we can, or
[24:04] Speaker 2: that we can be safe. And we can't do that
[24:07] Speaker 2: if we're in a TZ. So I very rarely get
[24:12] Speaker 2: in a TZ about too much of anything. I operate
[24:16] Speaker 2: with urgency, with that sense of urgency, but I do
[24:20] Speaker 2: it differently.
[24:23] Speaker 1: As we close out, listen one more time. Tell everybody
[24:25] Speaker 1: how to get in touch with you, Doctor Robertson.
[24:28] Speaker 2: Yes, please reach out to me if you are in
[24:31] Speaker 2: that gap, if you are a early career professional, if
[24:35] Speaker 2: you are a junior or senior in college and university,
[24:39] Speaker 2: if you are that person looking to move to your
[24:41] Speaker 2: next level, if you are at that organization that are
[24:45] Speaker 2: looking to invest in your most valuable asset your people.
[24:50] Speaker 2: Reach out to me at Creative Intentions, Inc. Dot com
[24:57] Speaker 2: or Talisha t e l I s h A at
[25:00] Speaker 2: Creators Intentions in seed dot com or just call with Sean.
[25:05] Speaker 2: He knows how to get it.
[25:06] Speaker 1: I knew that's right, and I'm about to get off
[25:08] Speaker 1: the couch because she has got me at the right tone.
[25:12] Speaker 1: I'm not too hi, I'm not too low. You're fantastic,
[25:15] Speaker 1: Doctor Roberts. As always, thank you for coming into my world.
[25:18] Speaker 1: It's my third interview with you and a proverby thirty
[25:21] Speaker 1: days because your voice needs to be hurt and if
[25:24] Speaker 1: any way I can keep putting it out there so
[25:25] Speaker 1: more people can hear it and pursue the opportunity that
[25:28] Speaker 1: you are making available globally and as well as in
[25:32] Speaker 1: North Carolina and specifically where you started in library. But
[25:36] Speaker 1: more importantly, keep winning, my friend, and we'll talk soon.
[25:39] Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much for having me.
[25:42] Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to this episode.
[25:44] Speaker 1: No, I need for you to do me a favor
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