# Uplift: She has registered over 10,000 students to attend HBCUs and generated $100 million in scholarships.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 1 May 2025, 18 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ashley Christopher. Interview Summary: Ashley Christopher on Money Making Conversations Masterclass Guest: Ashley Christopher Host: Rushion McDonald Platform: Money Making Conversations Masterclass Focus: HBCU access, scholarships, STEM pipeline, purpose-driven leadership Overall Summary Ashley Christopher shares the origin, growth, and impact of the HBCU Week Foundation, which she founded in 2017 to increase enrollment at Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs), remove financial barriers, and create direct pathways from high school to college and corporate America. What began as a local Wilmington, Delaware initiative evolved into a national movement that has facilitated over 10,000 on-the-spot HBCU acceptances and nearly $100 million in scholarships, including a landmark $40 million STEM scholarship partnership. The conversation blends entrepreneurship, education equity, resilience, faith, and purpose, highlighting how lived experience and authentic mission can scale social impact. Purpose of the Interview • To spotlight the HBCU Week Foundation and its measurable outcomes (acceptances, scholarships, STEM investment). • To educate families and students about on-the-spot college acceptance and scholarship opportunities. • To inspire purpose-driven leadership, particularly among Black entrepreneurs and community leaders. • To demonstrate how local solutions can scale nationally when rooted in authenticity and impact. • To share a personal story of resilience, including surviving a stroke at age 29 and redefining purpose. Key Takeaways 1. Access Changes Outcomes • HBCU Week’s on-the-spot acceptance model allows eligible students to receive immediate college decisions and scholarship offers at a live college fair. • This removes prolonged uncertainty and barriers that often discourage first-generation and underserved students. Students bring their transcript, SAT/ACT scores, meet with an HBCU counselor, and can be accepted immediately. 2. HBCUs Are a Pipeline to Opportunity • Ashley emphasizes that HBCUs are not just cultural institutions, but talent pipelines into corporate America, particularly for STEM fields. • Enrollment growth and scholarship funding are as critical as brand awareness. 3. The Power of Strategic Partnerships • A relationship that began with seven $40,000 STEM scholarships grew into a $40 million partnership with the American Chemistry Council. • The goal: addressing a projected STEM workforce deficit while increasing diversity in the field. The partnership now supports 1,000 students committed to STEM majors at HBCUs, with nearly 600 awards already distributed. 4. Purpose Can Be Born From Crisis • Ashley shares her experience of having a stroke at age 29, caused by birth control use, which required her to relearn how to write and regain physical mobility. • The experience intensified her sense of urgency, discipline, and purpose. Surviving the stroke shifted her mindset from ambition to intentional impact. 5. Authentic Passion Fuels Scalable Impact • Ashley never intended HBCU Week to become national—it was designed to serve students in her hometown. • Growth occurred organically because the mission was authentic, focused, and student-centered. “When you love what you do and have a real passion behind the impact, it catches on.” Notable Quotes On Mission & Growth • “The…

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[0:00] Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. I'm Rashon McDonald, a host of
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[0:40] Speaker 2: My guests created the HBCU Week Foundation in twenty seventeen
[0:44] Speaker 2: with a mission to promote enrollment and historically Black colleges
[0:48] Speaker 2: and universities, which is HBCUs, provide scholarships, and create pathways
[0:53] Speaker 2: for students from undergrad to corporate America. HBCU Week has
[0:59] Speaker 2: facilitated facilitated over ten thousand listen to y'all, ten thousand
[1:04] Speaker 2: own the Spot, acceptance to HBCUs, and awarded nearly one
[1:09] Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in scholarships to HBCUs. If that's not spectacular,
[1:16] Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Please work with the
[1:18] Speaker 2: Money Making Conversations Masterclass, the one and only Ashley Christopher.
[1:21] Speaker 1: How you doing, Ashley?
[1:23] Speaker 3: Hey, hey, r Shin good to be here. How are you?
[1:26] Speaker 2: You know, Ashley? I built it up and you say, hey,
[1:28] Speaker 2: hevery shine, how you knowing?
[1:30] Speaker 3: How you doing? I'm doing? What you know?
[1:34] Speaker 2: Come on a ten thousand people, now, young people, you
[1:39] Speaker 2: know that you've owned the spot registration at your event
[1:44] Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars in scholarships, because that's what we
[1:48] Speaker 2: talk about now, getting out of college, not carrying that
[1:51] Speaker 2: debt own for the rest of their life. Talk about uh,
[1:56] Speaker 2: the HBCU week What is it exactly? And I also
[2:00] Speaker 2: explain to my audience what is on the spot acceptance?
[2:05] Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean our on the spot acceptance process
[2:08] Speaker 3: happens every year at our college fair. So we do
[2:11] Speaker 3: a week long activation which emulates an HBCU homecoming experience.
[2:17] Speaker 3: It's a week long. It's in Wilmington, Delaware. We do
[2:20] Speaker 3: all the exciting things like concerts, comedy shows, the Battle
[2:23] Speaker 3: the Bands panel, discussions, block party. But the cornerstone event
[2:27] Speaker 3: is the college Fair, because that's where students can get
[2:30] Speaker 3: accepted into college on the spot and receive a scholarship award.
[2:34] Speaker 3: So if you come as a graduating senior and you
[2:36] Speaker 3: have the requisite SAT or ACT score and GPA, you
[2:40] Speaker 3: could be admitted right there. And unfortunately, we have been
[2:43] Speaker 3: able to provide that kind of access for ten thousand
[2:46] Speaker 3: students since twenty seventeen.
[2:50] Speaker 2: When did you realize, First of all, let's talk about
[2:54] Speaker 2: your background, your double HBCU are right. Look if everybody
[2:59] Speaker 2: your act and background, and what do you start right?
[3:03] Speaker 2: And why did you choose an HBCU.
[3:06] Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is I was fortunate enough to
[3:09] Speaker 3: grow up in a household where my parents encouraged me
[3:12] Speaker 3: to choose an HBCU. My high school didn't necessarily do that,
[3:16] Speaker 3: They didn't even discuss or acknowledge HBCUs, But because of
[3:20] Speaker 3: my parents, I already knew in my mind that that
[3:22] Speaker 3: was the direction I wanted to go. I did go
[3:25] Speaker 3: to an all girls Catholic high school, so even though
[3:28] Speaker 3: I really did want to go to Spelman at first,
[3:30] Speaker 3: that quickly became a non negotiable for me. I didn't
[3:33] Speaker 3: want to do the all girls thing again. So after that,
[3:36] Speaker 3: Howard Howard became my first choice, and it was the
[3:39] Speaker 3: best decision I could have ever made. So I went
[3:42] Speaker 3: to Howard University for undergraduate school, and then I went
[3:45] Speaker 3: to the University of DC Law School, finishing up there
[3:48] Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen.
[3:50] Speaker 2: Now, when you talk about these different scholarships that you
[3:54] Speaker 2: are dealing with and putting out there, how did you
[3:57] Speaker 2: start the HBCU week and what was the both to
[4:01] Speaker 2: the original goal? Because now it's huge, you know, but
[4:04] Speaker 2: you have to start somewhere in here, usually by yourself
[4:07] Speaker 2: when you starting out so and you have this insane
[4:10] Speaker 2: idea to change the world. Talk about those early days
[4:13] Speaker 2: before before it was ten thousand on the spot bresident acceptance,
[4:18] Speaker 2: and before there was one hundred million dollars in scholarships
[4:20] Speaker 2: to attend HBCUs.
[4:23] Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, I think the stars kind of aligned.
[4:27] Speaker 3: And I was, you know, trying to figure out what
[4:30] Speaker 3: my thing was at the moment. I had recently finished.
[4:34] Speaker 1: To AW school.
[4:34] Speaker 3: I was successful with the bar exam, so I was
[4:37] Speaker 3: licensed to practice in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, and I'm
[4:41] Speaker 3: trying to figure out what my next step is going
[4:43] Speaker 3: to be. So I ended up meeting the newly elected
[4:46] Speaker 3: mayor in the city of Wilmington, and we struck a
[4:51] Speaker 3: really good relationship very quickly. So what we did was
[4:55] Speaker 3: we ended up working together and as an employee of IS,
[4:58] Speaker 3: he asked me to come up with some programming that
[5:01] Speaker 3: was pointed directly at some of Wilmington's most underserved communities.
[5:06] Speaker 3: So I wanted to lean into education, and in doing that,
[5:10] Speaker 3: I came up with this concept of HBCU Week. As
[5:12] Speaker 3: a former chairman or chairwoman of Howard University Homecoming, that
[5:18] Speaker 3: gave me a clear backdrop for large scale event planning,
[5:22] Speaker 3: and that coupled with my love for HBCUs and wanted
[5:25] Speaker 3: to just expose students to the same experience I had.
[5:28] Speaker 3: That's what led me to create this foundation.
[5:32] Speaker 2: Now, this foundation initially started. Now this is what I
[5:36] Speaker 2: always love people. You know, when you hear something that
[5:39] Speaker 2: you're accomplishing. You're doing this in Wilmington, Delaware. Okay, that's
[5:43] Speaker 2: not a major city, as we all know, just not
[5:45] Speaker 2: at all the Philadelphia, you know, and right there along
[5:50] Speaker 2: you go, did you see it getting this big? Oh,
[5:54] Speaker 2: you were just starting an initiative that you dreamed of,
[5:59] Speaker 2: and you felt that you could impact just the community locally,
[6:02] Speaker 2: because you're impacting the country now, not just the community
[6:05] Speaker 2: of Delaware, Wilmington, Delaware.
[6:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, And to be honest with you, I had no idea,
[6:12] Speaker 3: And honestly, the goal wasn't even for this to be
[6:15] Speaker 3: a national event. The goal was to take care of
[6:19] Speaker 3: the students in my hometown, to get them the exposure
[6:22] Speaker 3: that they needed because I knew, you know, a lot
[6:24] Speaker 3: of people where I grew up don't even think college
[6:27] Speaker 3: is an option. So I wanted to make sure that
[6:29] Speaker 3: they were taken care of. And doing that, it was
[6:33] Speaker 3: very easy to show or demonstrate the passion and authenticity
[6:39] Speaker 3: behind the mission and getting the students involved and excited
[6:42] Speaker 3: about it, and it just kind of caught on to
[6:45] Speaker 3: all the surrounding areas, students from different schools. Our college
[6:49] Speaker 3: fairs started to attract everyone from the Delaware Valley, not
[6:53] Speaker 3: just Wilmington, but Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, even as
[6:57] Speaker 3: far as Connecticut and as far south as Kentucky. We
[7:01] Speaker 3: had a bus from Kentucky drive up to the college fair.
[7:05] Speaker 3: So I mean, I think that it speaks volumes when
[7:09] Speaker 3: you love what you do and you have a real
[7:13] Speaker 3: passion that drives behind just the impact it catches on
[7:17] Speaker 3: and people just I think naturally get excited about it.
[7:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm talking to Ashley Christopher her HBCU foundation that
[7:25] Speaker 2: she started in twenty seventeen. Passion is to grow the
[7:30] Speaker 2: brand awareness of HBCUs, but more importantly than attendance, and
[7:34] Speaker 2: also to put students in a position where Tier one
[7:38] Speaker 2: students in particular, they can go to school via scholarships.
[7:42] Speaker 2: So far is twenty seventeen, ten thousand on the spot acceptance.
[7:47] Speaker 2: That means when these students bring their act SAT and
[7:51] Speaker 2: they transcript to the college fair, they'll meet with a
[7:54] Speaker 2: counselor at this particular HBCU and they can be accepted
[7:59] Speaker 2: on this. I've seen it with my own Aydes. I've
[8:01] Speaker 2: seen these kids walk away with a number of four
[8:06] Speaker 2: rides partial scholarship offers right there. I've seen long lines.
[8:12] Speaker 2: I've seen it so many times and one hundred million
[8:15] Speaker 2: dollars in scholarships. Can you tell people basically you have
[8:19] Speaker 2: other scholarships that you are making available, especially in the
[8:22] Speaker 2: STEM area. Can you discuss that with us on air?
[8:25] Speaker 3: Ashal Oh, Yeah, yeah, I would say that my most
[8:29] Speaker 3: popular scholarship is the STEM Scholarship. It's the future of
[8:32] Speaker 3: STEM scholars initiatives, and it is a forty thousand dollars
[8:37] Speaker 3: award available to students that are committed to attending HBCU
[8:41] Speaker 3: and declare a STEM major. So it's able to broker
[8:44] Speaker 3: a forty million dollar partnership with the American Chemistry Council,
[8:48] Speaker 3: so that forty thousand dollars scholarship is available to one
[8:51] Speaker 3: thousand students. We've given away just under six hundred of
[8:55] Speaker 3: those awards so far, with North Carolina and t being
[8:59] Speaker 3: the premier HBCU STEM school. We have about one hundred
[9:02] Speaker 3: and twenty five C scholars there, followed by seventy eight
[9:05] Speaker 3: at Howard University, and there are forty six HBCUs that
[9:09] Speaker 3: have FIVEC scholars enrolled. So that's our most popular one,
[9:12] Speaker 3: the forty thousand dollars STEM Scholarship, and that application goes
[9:16] Speaker 3: live every September on hbcwek dot org.
[9:19] Speaker 1: You know Mislayser focus.
[9:23] Speaker 2: I have so many people contacting me, Rashank, Can you
[9:25] Speaker 2: help me with a grant? Can your grant does grant writing? Rashan?
[9:30] Speaker 2: How do you Ashley Christopher get a forty million dollar
[9:35] Speaker 2: opportunity out of a company that benefits all youth today
[9:41] Speaker 2: and then convince that same company that there is better
[9:45] Speaker 2: served they that that money goes to students who go
[9:48] Speaker 2: to attend HBCUs.
[9:51] Speaker 3: You know, it all worked to my benefit somehow. I
[9:57] Speaker 3: really just being in a that I'm in and experiencing
[10:01] Speaker 3: the success that I have in such a short period
[10:03] Speaker 3: of time. I can't take credit for it. I'm a
[10:06] Speaker 3: person of strong face and I know that. But for
[10:11] Speaker 3: you know, my relationship with God, this wouldn't be a thing.
[10:14] Speaker 3: But specifically the forty million dollar partnership. While I was
[10:19] Speaker 3: in Wilmington and figuring out how we were going to
[10:23] Speaker 3: activate HBCU week, there were some company Wilmington based companies
[10:26] Speaker 3: that were excited about my idea that wanted to jump
[10:29] Speaker 3: in and participate. One of those companies was the Coomores Company.
[10:33] Speaker 3: My dear friend who is the former president and CEO,
[10:37] Speaker 3: Mark Ernano, wanted to jump in and help with scholarships
[10:40] Speaker 3: because he told me personally that the STEM industry is
[10:44] Speaker 3: experiencing a serious deficit with jobs and by twenty twenty
[10:48] Speaker 3: five they were facing a deficit of a million jobs,
[10:51] Speaker 3: and he wanted to do what he could to fill
[10:54] Speaker 3: those spaces with diverse candidates because he knows STEM makes
[10:58] Speaker 3: the world go around. There's questions and problems that needs
[11:01] Speaker 3: to be solved. If everybody around that table looks the same,
[11:04] Speaker 3: we're in trouble. So Mark Vergnano was actually on a
[11:08] Speaker 3: mission to diversify the field of STEM. So he jumped
[11:12] Speaker 3: in initially with seven forty thousand dollars scholarship. That's how
[11:15] Speaker 3: this this scholarship started. It started with seven and it
[11:19] Speaker 3: grew to one thousand. After Mark told his colleagues in
[11:23] Speaker 3: the American Chemistry Council what we were doing, and we
[11:26] Speaker 3: had a few meetings, told them, you know how impactful
[11:30] Speaker 3: that this this scholarship opportunity would be, and sold the
[11:34] Speaker 3: idea to get the American Chemistry Council to participate. So
[11:37] Speaker 3: it was just kind of a waiting game, and then
[11:39] Speaker 3: they came back and said, hey, we're in for forty million.
[11:42] Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't even have the words
[11:46] Speaker 3: for how I felt when that happened to grow from
[11:51] Speaker 3: seven forty thousand dollars scholarships to one thousand after just
[11:54] Speaker 3: a few conversations. It's divine there's really no other explanation.
[12:01] Speaker 2: Let's give me a website out right now, because I
[12:02] Speaker 2: know a lot of people are excited they hear me
[12:05] Speaker 2: mention your name, but they need to know now how
[12:07] Speaker 2: they can participate because this is real money, this is
[12:10] Speaker 2: real opportunities. This I have known her since twenty and
[12:14] Speaker 2: eighteen and everything she says is happening. We'll be right
[12:19] Speaker 2: back with more money Making Conversation with Ashley Christopher, the
[12:23] Speaker 2: one hundred million Dollar Lady.
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[12:57] Speaker 2: Hi, this is Raushan McDonald. Yes, you're listening to Money
[13:00] Speaker 2: Making Conversation Masterclass and my interview interview that I'm having
[13:04] Speaker 2: right now is with Ashley Christopher, a background HBCU Week Foundation.
[13:09] Speaker 2: She started in twenty seventeen. I'm just getting everybody popped
[13:12] Speaker 2: up because for a person to do in less than
[13:15] Speaker 2: eighty years to have registered ten thousand students on the
[13:19] Speaker 2: spot at her career fairs and awarded these individuals over
[13:24] Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars nearly one hundred million dollars of scholarships,
[13:28] Speaker 2: got a forty million dollars STEM program where they have
[13:34] Speaker 2: for one thousand, forty thousand dollars scholarships, where over six
[13:38] Speaker 2: hundred students have fulfilled those. It means that they have
[13:42] Speaker 2: students and they have slots right now. For your child
[13:45] Speaker 2: is interested in STEM that wanted to attend an HBCU,
[13:50] Speaker 2: this is the person you need to be talking to.
[13:52] Speaker 2: She's providing real opportunity tier one students and your child
[13:56] Speaker 2: is going to be taken care of. Now, that dream
[14:00] Speaker 2: you almost didn't see because you came across a physical
[14:05] Speaker 2: obstacle came about in your life you didn't see coming.
[14:09] Speaker 2: Tell us about that and how you was able to
[14:11] Speaker 2: overcome that, and we understand even more so the value
[14:14] Speaker 2: of having you in our life today and what you've
[14:17] Speaker 2: accomplished and will continue to accomplish in the future. Talk
[14:21] Speaker 2: about that moment in your life where you didn't see
[14:23] Speaker 2: that coming.
[14:24] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was a little more than ten years ago.
[14:28] Speaker 3: I woke up one Sunday morning and I could not
[14:32] Speaker 3: feel the right side of my body after you know,
[14:37] Speaker 3: looking at my hand or my arm and my leg
[14:40] Speaker 3: and like my brain telling it to move, but it wouldn't.
[14:44] Speaker 3: I knew that there was something serious happening. So I
[14:46] Speaker 3: was able to get the attention of my mother, who
[14:48] Speaker 3: came to my side and put over her hands on
[14:51] Speaker 3: my face, told me to smile, and I couldn't, So
[14:53] Speaker 3: she knew what was happening and called the ambulance. And
[14:57] Speaker 3: I was having a stroke at twenty nine, and it
[15:02] Speaker 3: was due to birth control use. I had to learn
[15:07] Speaker 3: to write again. I had to go through physical therapy
[15:09] Speaker 3: to get on blood dinners to get my you know,
[15:11] Speaker 3: blood back to a normal level, and obviously eliminate the
[15:15] Speaker 3: use of hormonal birth control altogether. But it did. It
[15:20] Speaker 3: did create a different sense of drive and purpose in
[15:24] Speaker 3: me because there were some moments that you know, in
[15:29] Speaker 3: that space for anybody that's listening that has experienced something
[15:32] Speaker 3: like that, where you question whether or not you'll survive,
[15:36] Speaker 3: and then if you do, what's next, and you want
[15:40] Speaker 3: to make it, you know, the best of it, because
[15:42] Speaker 3: you just never know what's around the corner. And when
[15:46] Speaker 3: I adopted that sense of purpose and drive, it kind
[15:50] Speaker 3: of just turned my ambition up a few notches. So
[15:55] Speaker 3: not only am I I focused on the foundation, but
[15:58] Speaker 3: you know, I'm particular about the things I eat and
[16:01] Speaker 3: making sure I maintain a healthy, active lifestyle. Of anything
[16:05] Speaker 3: I can do to slow the clock down, that's what
[16:10] Speaker 3: I'm doing.
[16:11] Speaker 2: Well, Ashley, thank you, you know, with your subdued self,
[16:15] Speaker 2: you know your focus self.
[16:19] Speaker 3: No, thank you for having me. Thank you taking the
[16:21] Speaker 3: time I really do.
[16:22] Speaker 2: No, You're fantastic, and I thank you, And now I
[16:24] Speaker 2: hope people hear. High value what you're doing to our
[16:28] Speaker 2: youth in America. High value your laser focus. High value
[16:32] Speaker 2: your passion because it's something you basically survived stroke, retrained
[16:40] Speaker 2: yourself twenty seventeen. You found in an organization as a
[16:44] Speaker 2: local cause turning into a national cause. When you started
[16:49] Speaker 2: with seven forty thousand dollars scholarships, now it is one thousand. Yeah,
[16:56] Speaker 2: you now have registered over ten thousand on the spot
[17:01] Speaker 2: students at your career fairs to go to HBCUs and
[17:04] Speaker 2: the ward a nearly one hundred million dollars in scholarship.
[17:07] Speaker 2: If I can't help toot your horn, who can?
[17:10] Speaker 3: Thank you?
[17:10] Speaker 2: Asking Chris You're amazing and continue to change lives for
[17:14] Speaker 2: our youth because definitely you're a blessing. Thank you for
[17:17] Speaker 2: coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
[17:19] Speaker 3: Thank you so much for Sean, I appreciate the time.
[17:22] Speaker 2: All Right, we talked soon.
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