# Now That's A Gesture!

An episode of [Armstrong & Getty On Demand](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1259438987), 12 Oct 2026, 38 min.

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Hour 2 of A&G features... • Welfare fraud & abuse • Jack goes to the shoe store • US deal with Russia for oil & Trump's comments on Zelensky • Cornell's bizarre sex sessions Stupid Should Hurt: https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
[0:05] Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong
[0:10] Speaker 1: and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.
[0:23] Speaker 2: Under your vision of Medicare for all, can people keep
[0:27] Speaker 2: their health care plan if they like their health care plan?
[0:30] Speaker 3: Yes.
[0:31] Speaker 2: That health care plan has to decide that they're going
[0:33] Speaker 2: to continue to keep those people.
[0:34] Speaker 3: And right now what's happening is these health care plans
[0:37] Speaker 3: are getting so expensive that they're knocking people out.
[0:40] Speaker 1: So that's a choice for those corporations to have to make.
[0:42] Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard that question and answer before.
[0:46] Speaker 1: It's oddly reminiscent of something. Yes, yes, yes.
[0:51] Speaker 4: Here's a headline for you as we get into the
[0:54] Speaker 4: broader topic of socialism and Great Britain and Islamism and
[0:58] Speaker 4: all sorts of stuff. It all hangs together, but a
[1:00] Speaker 4: headline came out Friday. DeSantis Ron of Florida. Fraud crackdown
[1:04] Speaker 4: drives nearly a billion-dollar spending plunge after they looked into
[1:11] Speaker 4: who was billing for what in Medicare fraud. They found
[1:16] Speaker 4: that company after company was billing for, like, more hours
[1:20] Speaker 4: than there are in a day. Yeah, Joe from our
[1:24] Speaker 4: company worked 37 hours Friday.
[1:27] Speaker 1: And Jenny worked 31. She's a slacker.
[1:31] Speaker 4: And, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they billed the government for
[1:34] Speaker 4: zillions of dollars. And, you know, state after state, as
[1:36] Speaker 4: they crack down on this stuff, find enormous, enormous fraud.
[1:39] Speaker 1: And there's no way a computer or a human can
[1:42] Speaker 1: catch that. I mean, come on. I know. It's amazing.
[1:47] Speaker 1: You know, it's funny.
[1:48] Speaker 4: I was reading that, and then this piece in the
[1:50] Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal, the welfare state is crushing Britain. The
[1:54] Speaker 4: soaring number of people on disability and sickness benefits is
[1:57] Speaker 4: blowing up the country's welfare bill and imperiling its long-term
[2:00] Speaker 4: financial stability. And we'll tell you how severely in a
[2:03] Speaker 4: moment or two. But here's the reality that some people
[2:06] Speaker 4: get and some don't. First track on The Clash's fabulous
[2:11] Speaker 4: Combat Rock album back in the day.
[2:13] Speaker 1: Love The Clash.
[2:15] Speaker 4: The same album with Rock the Casbah and Should I
[2:17] Speaker 4: Stay or Should I Go? But it's called Know Your Rights.
[2:21] Speaker 4: And it's kind of a sarcastic expression of what your
[2:23] Speaker 4: rights are supposed to be and how they are in
[2:25] Speaker 4: the real world. And it's some good punk indignation. But
[2:29] Speaker 4: one of them is you have the right to food money.
[2:32] Speaker 4: If you don't mind a little investigation, humiliation. what Joe
[2:37] Speaker 4: Strummer was talking about is the fact that, yeah, you
[2:39] Speaker 4: got to fill.
[2:39] Speaker 1: Out forms and you got to.
[2:41] Speaker 4: Prove you need it to get the so-called food money.
[2:44] Speaker 4: And of course, that was seen as just an offensive
[2:47] Speaker 4: thing to, you know, a young leftist punk musician in
[2:52] Speaker 4: Britain in that time. But if there's one thing humanity
[2:56] Speaker 4: has proved, it's that Every single program that exists to
[3:01] Speaker 4: help the downtrodden will be abused and defrauded by masses
[3:06] Speaker 4: of people. I mean, it's like gravity. There's no escaping it.
[3:11] Speaker 4: Everywhere it exists, there will be rampant fraud.
[3:13] Speaker 1: Well, there's an incentive on both sides is the problem.
[3:18] Speaker 1: There's an incentive on the greedy, I'd like stuff for
[3:20] Speaker 1: free side, obviously, and as always happened with human nature.
[3:24] Speaker 1: And then there's an incentive on the more people we
[3:27] Speaker 1: get signed up, the more we can claim there's a
[3:29] Speaker 1: need for this and grow our department. Right, right.
[3:33] Speaker 4: And or our NGO or, you know, as I hammered
[3:37] Speaker 4: for years and years. If you are dependent, you can't
[3:41] Speaker 4: be independent. And if I am utterly dependent on the
[3:45] Speaker 4: Democrats being in power for my daily bread, I'm going
[3:48] Speaker 4: to vote for them every single time. You don't think
[3:50] Speaker 4: that's occurred to the politicians? You think that's like an
[3:53] Speaker 4: accidental after effect?
[3:56] Speaker 1: Please, grow up. Who are you yelling at?
[3:58] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[4:00] Speaker 1: So let's get back to Britain.
[4:01] Speaker 4: Seven million people, which is more than 10% of their population,
[4:05] Speaker 4: now claim at least one or more sickness or disability benefit.
[4:09] Speaker 4: Numbers are growing fastest among working-age people who should be
[4:13] Speaker 4: powering the country's economy. It surged more than 60% in
[4:18] Speaker 4: six years. Well, you know, that's funny what you brought
[4:21] Speaker 4: up at the beginning of this, because I've always thought
[4:24] Speaker 4: shame is the only thing that keeps these things in check.
[4:28] Speaker 1: Cultural shame. And if you get rid of the idea of,
[4:32] Speaker 1: I don't want any handouts... I would never take a
[4:36] Speaker 1: hand out of any kind. Once you get rid of
[4:38] Speaker 1: that stigma, these things completely fall apart. Right, right.
[4:44] Speaker 4: And it's turned the corner, as you've observed many times,
[4:46] Speaker 4: from I don't take charity to everybody's doing it.
[4:50] Speaker 1: I'd be a fool not to. Well, at some point,
[4:52] Speaker 1: that becomes reality. I've thought that myself.
[4:56] Speaker 4: So not including health care, not including health care, the
[4:59] Speaker 4: country will spend more than $ 100 billion this year on
[5:02] Speaker 4: all types of welfare benefits for the sick and disabled,
[5:05] Speaker 4: about a third more than defense spending in Britain. The
[5:09] Speaker 4: tab is surged by a quarter in just four years.
[5:12] Speaker 4: and is on course to hit a giant new number.
[5:14] Speaker 4: Many of the newer disability claims are for mental health
[5:17] Speaker 4: issues like depression, anxiety, and ADHD, which can be harder
[5:20] Speaker 4: for the government to verify than a physical disability.
[5:23] Speaker 1: Well, it's impossible to verify. You can't verify it if
[5:26] Speaker 1: you want to with your own kid. Right. Let alone
[5:29] Speaker 1: the government verifying it. Sure, yeah.
[5:32] Speaker 4: Between 2017 and 2025, disability claims for cancer doubled, which
[5:37] Speaker 4: is difficult to explain. But benefits claims for all psychiatric
[5:42] Speaker 4: issues surged fourfold.
[5:45] Speaker 1: They quadrupled in eight years. See, I was speaking of
[5:49] Speaker 1: old music that most people have never heard. I'm jamming
[5:52] Speaker 1: Charlie Daniels on Friday. in my truck on a beautiful day,
[5:56] Speaker 1: listening to a long-haired country boy. I ain't asking nobody
[5:59] Speaker 1: for nothing if I can't get it on my own,
[6:01] Speaker 1: which was and is a very proud, rural, redneck sort
[6:07] Speaker 1: of vibe. I ain't asking nobody for nothing. That's not cool. Well,
[6:13] Speaker 1: once it crosses over to.
[6:16] Speaker 1: Almost everybody's getting something. At what point am I the
[6:19] Speaker 1: idiot for not claiming that I've got ADHD or something
[6:23] Speaker 1: like that and getting some of my own tax money back?
[6:26] Speaker 1: At some point, it crosses over, doesn't it?
[6:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, and this actually crosses over into the hilarious hit points.
[6:32] Speaker 4: I mean, it's tragically hilarious, but One benefit created to
[6:35] Speaker 4: help those with disabilities to be more mobile allows people
[6:38] Speaker 4: to give up part of their welfare cash handout in
[6:40] Speaker 4: return for a new car every three years.
[6:43] Speaker 5: What?
[6:43] Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Why would you need a new car
[6:45] Speaker 1: every three years? How crappy are your cars in Britain?
[6:48] Speaker 1: I don't get a new car every three years. Nor
[6:53] Speaker 1: do I. And it's a new car.
[6:55] Speaker 2: Wow.
[6:55] Speaker 4: Anyway, it now accounts for around one of every seven
[6:59] Speaker 4: new car sales in the UK.
[7:00] Speaker 6: Wow.
[7:01] Speaker 4: Among those who got new cars last year, 40 people
[7:05] Speaker 4: whose primary medical condition was tennis elbow.
[7:08] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
[7:12] Speaker 4: 50 with wheat intolerance.
[7:17] Speaker 1: I just can't tolerate wheat. Can I have a car?
[7:22] Speaker 4: And 320 with dyslexia, according to government figures.
[7:26] Speaker 1: Can I have a rack or car? I can't tell which,
[7:29] Speaker 1: but could you give me one? I have dyslexia. And again,
[7:32] Speaker 1: these numbers are all skyrocketing. You're into full-on socialism at
[7:39] Speaker 1: the point that people claim tennis elbow with no way
[7:43] Speaker 1: of verifying it. Get a car from the taxpayer. It's
[7:47] Speaker 1: beyond socialism. It's into what the hell is them? I mean,
[7:50] Speaker 1: I don't even know what system that is. God, can
[7:53] Speaker 1: I get a couple of cars? Because I can't handle
[7:54] Speaker 1: wheat and I've got tennis elbow. I get tennis elbow
[7:57] Speaker 1: in both arms. Two-handed backhand, you know? Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
[8:02] Speaker 4: Okay, more on this situation in a minute after a
[8:05] Speaker 4: word from our friends at Incogni.
[8:08] Speaker 1: I know, I know.
[8:09] Speaker 4: So they want to remind you that anytime you get
[8:12] Speaker 4: a call from your bank where they know everything about you,
[8:14] Speaker 4: your name, address, last four digits, your social security number,
[8:18] Speaker 4: that is probably a scammer. It's a scammer who bought
[8:21] Speaker 4: your info from a data broker. They've got everything on you.
[8:25] Speaker 1: It makes it so difficult because sometimes it is your
[8:28] Speaker 1: bank or insurance company that calls you, but there's just
[8:30] Speaker 1: no way of nailing it down anymore. It's troubling that
[8:33] Speaker 1: all your information is floating around out there. The data brokers,
[8:36] Speaker 1: thousands of them collecting your personal info and then selling
[8:39] Speaker 1: it to anybody who pays, including crooks. And that's why
[8:42] Speaker 1: we're using Incogni.
[8:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, Incogni sends removal requests to 420-plus data brokers and
[8:49] Speaker 4: people search sites for you. They keep watch so they
[8:52] Speaker 4: don't badge you back in. You couldn't do it yourself.
[8:54] Speaker 4: It would take hundreds of hours, but Incogni handles it
[8:56] Speaker 4: for you.
[8:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, go to Incogni.com slash Armstrong for 60% off. I
[9:00] Speaker 1: check out my Incogni account at least once a week
[9:03] Speaker 1: to see how many different websites have gotten my information off.
[9:07] Speaker 4: Incogni.com slash Armstrong.
[9:09] Speaker 1: That's I-N-C-O-G-N-I.com slash Armstrong. Incogni.com. slash Armstrong.
[9:15] Speaker 4: So as the interest rates have gone up from the
[9:18] Speaker 4: crazy artificially low levels of COVID and the government continues
[9:22] Speaker 4: to grotesquely overspend here as well as there, the borrowing
[9:25] Speaker 4: costs are higher and higher and higher. And so the
[9:30] Speaker 4: government has raised taxes, binged on debt, etc. A slow
[9:34] Speaker 4: but steady exodus of wealthy Brits are leaving for tax-friendly locales,
[9:40] Speaker 4: including Dubai.
[9:41] Speaker 1: They figure we're just getting soaked too much and How
[9:44] Speaker 1: would you not? You know, back to the whole, I
[9:46] Speaker 1: ain't asking nobody for nothing. If your neighbor is getting
[9:49] Speaker 1: a new car because of their weed intolerance, I mean,
[9:52] Speaker 1: you either got to, you got to join them or leave.
[9:55] Speaker 4: That's your only choice. Once that becomes entrenched in society,
[9:59] Speaker 4: what do you have? I'll tell you what you have.
[10:01] Speaker 4: So in 2025, useless waste of skin UK Prime Minister
[10:05] Speaker 4: Keir Starmer announced plans to tighten eligibility requirements for sickness
[10:09] Speaker 4: and disability welfare because it was skyrocketing like it wasn't.
[10:13] Speaker 4: People with tennis elbow were getting cars. The backlash was
[10:18] Speaker 4: so sharp. Starmer and the government abandoned the cuts and
[10:24] Speaker 4: then investors who are freaked out that a government with
[10:27] Speaker 4: a big majority couldn't push through those basic reforms.
[10:31] Speaker 1: So they sold off British government bonds.
[10:33] Speaker 4: The pound fell sharply and their their Treasury Department, in effect,
[10:38] Speaker 4: cried in Parliament and said, we've got to do something.
[10:40] Speaker 1: This is terrible. They are drowning.
[10:42] Speaker 4: They don't know what to do about it, and their
[10:44] Speaker 4: people won't put up with it.
[10:45] Speaker 1: What, am I supposed to walk everywhere with my upset stomach?
[10:48] Speaker 1: I had a bowl of cereal this morning. Right, my
[10:50] Speaker 1: elbow's throbbing.
[10:53] Speaker 4: You know, I didn't get to pivot into Islamism and
[10:57] Speaker 4: how Britain, because partly of their fiscal woes, is now
[11:02] Speaker 4: turning more and more to Middle Eastern shakedoms. including the
[11:09] Speaker 4: regrettable Qataris for money and how that's got them on
[11:14] Speaker 4: the hook to Islamists. That's part of the reason Britain's
[11:18] Speaker 4: in the Straits. It is with their giant Muslim immigration thing.
[11:22] Speaker 4: They dare not anger some powerful people in the Muslim
[11:25] Speaker 4: world because they're their sugar daddies.
[11:28] Speaker 1: Oof! Our dad, England, is a drunken wreck on a
[11:35] Speaker 1: park bench. I think it's our mother country, isn't it?
[11:38] Speaker 1: It depends how you look at it. I don't know.
[11:42] Speaker 1: Mother country? All right. You do this one, then.
[11:46] Speaker 4: Our mother is a bedraggled drunk on a park bench. Wow.
[11:50] Speaker 1: Bedraggled. Yes. Humiliating. I think it's humiliating that we're going
[11:57] Speaker 1: to support Russia in the war against Ukraine. So do
[12:01] Speaker 1: some of my favorite Fox announcers. Very unhappy with what
[12:04] Speaker 1: Trump announced over the weekend. We can get into that
[12:07] Speaker 1: a little bit later. Also, I had one of those
[12:09] Speaker 1: situations over the weekend. I love when this happens. When
[12:11] Speaker 1: a clerk at a store insults you after you just
[12:14] Speaker 1: bought something. I'm a big fan of those stories. I've
[12:17] Speaker 1: told them before. Got that and other stuff on the way.
[12:20] Speaker 1: Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
[12:28] Speaker 4: Grounds 1-4.
[12:28] Speaker 1: Way to center field. Milwaukee takes the lead. Bottom of
[12:32] Speaker 1: the order gets it done. Brewer ball right there. Sacrifice one.
[12:37] Speaker 1: Base hit.
[12:37] Speaker 2: 2-1.
[12:38] Speaker 1: Brewers beat Dodgers game one of who gets to go
[12:41] Speaker 1: to the World Series in the National League. The Brewers
[12:44] Speaker 1: were very excited to win. I saw somebody post last
[12:48] Speaker 1: week when the Dodgers clinched their that series so they
[12:54] Speaker 1: could move to the NLCS. as was pointed out, they
[12:58] Speaker 1: acted like it was a Tuesday win in June. And
[13:03] Speaker 1: I wonder if that happens. You win too much. It's
[13:06] Speaker 1: just like, yeah, whatever.
[13:07] Speaker 5: I don't know.
[13:08] Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't know. Yeah, you could argue, well,
[13:11] Speaker 1: they're businesslike about it. They're focused on the next one.
[13:15] Speaker 1: I don't know. Enthusiasm is something, though. The Brewers are
[13:17] Speaker 1: acting like they won the World Series last night and
[13:19] Speaker 1: just won game one, so. As a baseball purist, that
[13:21] Speaker 1: means old guy, I really like the Brewer style of play,
[13:25] Speaker 1: the sacrifice punt, the hit and run, small ball. So,
[13:30] Speaker 1: homecoming dance Saturday night, my son went and he needed
[13:33] Speaker 1: some clothes. He wanted an outfit. And one thing he
[13:37] Speaker 1: wanted was some new tennis shoes, which he needed anyway.
[13:39] Speaker 1: So we went, we were at the mall, and he
[13:41] Speaker 1: picks out some high-top Jordans that he really, really liked.
[13:45] Speaker 1: And we're at one of those many, many shoe stores
[13:48] Speaker 1: they have at the mall that sell that sort of stuff.
[13:51] Speaker 1: And a guy goes and gets his size and wants
[13:55] Speaker 1: to try them on. And he says, I got to
[13:58] Speaker 1: lace them up first. And the kid, cool. Doing the lacing.
[14:01] Speaker 1: And my son and I are sitting there talking for
[14:04] Speaker 1: a really long time. And I thought, why is it
[14:06] Speaker 1: taking him so long? And I look over and he's like...
[14:09] Speaker 1: barely gotten anywhere on it and then he brings it
[14:12] Speaker 1: i thought i could have i said to henry i
[14:14] Speaker 1: could have had five shoes laced by now i don't
[14:16] Speaker 1: know what he's doing and eventually he brings up for
[14:18] Speaker 1: the shoe and it's just like randomly the way the
[14:22] Speaker 1: laces are going from hole to hole he clearly had
[14:26] Speaker 1: no idea how to lace up a pair of shoes
[14:29] Speaker 1: working at a shoe store Wow, that seems like the basics.
[14:34] Speaker 1: Really seems like right there at the, and, you know,
[14:37] Speaker 1: I hate to be critical, you know, Katie, whoever, tell
[14:40] Speaker 1: me if I'm being overly critical, but I feel like
[14:42] Speaker 1: it's the sort of thing that's kind of intuitive anyway.
[14:45] Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's a heavy lift to figure
[14:48] Speaker 1: it out. I think my mind. My mom taught me
[14:51] Speaker 1: when I was about seven. Yeah. Or, you know, look
[14:55] Speaker 1: at some of the other shoes in the store. You
[14:56] Speaker 1: see how crisscross is there every other hole. It's really.
[14:59] Speaker 1: Is there anything else specific about this employee? Did he
[15:02] Speaker 1: seem drunk? So we're really struggling to, like, figure out
[15:07] Speaker 1: how to get the shoe on and, like, tighten it
[15:08] Speaker 1: up and have any sense of whether or not it
[15:10] Speaker 1: fit right or not. But it is a little bit like.
[15:12] Speaker 4: The guy at the Home Depot grabbing the wrong end
[15:14] Speaker 4: of the hammer and saying, yeah, this one's got.
[15:16] Speaker 1: A nice feel to it. With a head in his hand. Right.
[15:20] Speaker 1: It is simpler. You work at a shoe store, and
[15:26] Speaker 1: you have not the slightest idea how to lace shoes.
[15:30] Speaker 1: I just found that pretty dang funny. Anyway, so then
[15:33] Speaker 1: we get up to the register, and we're buying the shoes,
[15:36] Speaker 1: and a young woman there says, and we end up
[15:40] Speaker 1: getting in a conversation about her age. She's actually 35,
[15:44] Speaker 1: which kind of factors into the story. Okay. what are
[15:48] Speaker 1: you doing? I'm buying these. He's going to homecoming dance tonight. And, um, uh,
[15:54] Speaker 1: his first one, he's a freshman high school. And she said,
[15:56] Speaker 1: you're in high school. You look 12. Which, of course,
[16:00] Speaker 1: is an incredible insult to a young man.
[16:02] Speaker 6: Right.
[16:03] Speaker 1: As he's headed off to the dance, already uncomfortable about things.
[16:06] Speaker 1: And I'm always just blown away. It's the opposite end
[16:09] Speaker 1: of when they say, and I went ahead and gave
[16:11] Speaker 1: you the dollar for the senior discount. Oh, thanks for
[16:14] Speaker 1: announcing that I'm obviously so old. Man, and it's really
[16:17] Speaker 1: worth a dollar to have you announce to me. So
[16:20] Speaker 1: I'll think about it all day long. It's like Shane
[16:22] Speaker 1: Gillis was saying the other night on Saturday Night Live.
[16:24] Speaker 1: Those insults that you think about all day long. Or
[16:27] Speaker 1: maybe for the rest of your life. Hey, well, you
[16:29] Speaker 1: can tell when you get an insult. This is what
[16:31] Speaker 1: Shane Gillis said the other night. You can tell when
[16:32] Speaker 1: you get an insult. It's like, oh, that landed. That's
[16:34] Speaker 1: going to stick there for a while. And that is
[16:36] Speaker 1: exactly right. It's like, I'm sure he had that on
[16:39] Speaker 1: his mind at the dance. I look 12. Freaking fantastic.
[16:44] Speaker 4: Was that woman trying to express that high schoolers look
[16:48] Speaker 4: young to her? Well, she's adult. I mean, that's just
[16:51] Speaker 4: the long and short. You're dealing with adult.
[16:53] Speaker 1: Well, the same. I've had the senior discount experience 10
[16:57] Speaker 1: times in my life. hey, here's a tip. Ain't worth
[17:01] Speaker 1: a dollar to me to have you announce to me
[17:03] Speaker 1: that I'm obviously old. What are you doing? So, I
[17:08] Speaker 1: don't know. I guess, is that where we are hiring,
[17:11] Speaker 1: I guess? What, is unemployment so low? You're hiring people
[17:14] Speaker 1: that can't lace up a shoe. I mean, that is,
[17:19] Speaker 1: what is your IQ, dude? And yet he offered to.
[17:22] Speaker 1: That's the interesting part.
[17:24] Speaker 6: Right. Yeah.
[17:27] Speaker 1: Huh. What a weird trip to the shoe store. I know.
[17:31] Speaker 1: It's a nice store. We got good laughs out of it.
[17:34] Speaker 1: Walking out of the store. Oh, my God.
[17:37] Speaker 4: I'll bet the owner of that store would say to you, brother,
[17:40] Speaker 4: I interviewed 50 people.
[17:41] Speaker 1: For each one of those positions. That's what I wondered, actually.
[17:44] Speaker 4: This is the cream of the crop, my man.
[17:47] Speaker 1: These are the ones that got the job. The people
[17:50] Speaker 1: I turned away are... sitting on the couch eating paste,
[17:55] Speaker 1: I guess. A third of them applied pantless, okay? That's
[18:00] Speaker 1: what I'm dealing with here.
[18:02] Speaker 4: Right.
[18:04] Speaker 1: What Trump actually said about Ukraine and Russia and diesel
[18:07] Speaker 1: and stuff over the weekend got a lot of people talking.
[18:11] Speaker 1: It's our policy now, I guess.
[18:13] Speaker 4: And I read a great essay about why you don't
[18:15] Speaker 4: teach the AI systems that they're cognizant.
[18:17] Speaker 1: It's the worst thing we can do. Armstrong and Getty.
[18:22] Speaker 5: I suggest they get a new leader who can make
[18:25] Speaker 5: a deal because he could have made many deals that
[18:27] Speaker 5: for some reason he never does. And let me go
[18:29] Speaker 5: a step further. If I were president, you wouldn't have
[18:33] Speaker 5: ever had that war. That war would have never started.
[18:36] Speaker 5: There was no reason that that war with Ukraine and
[18:38] Speaker 5: Russia started.
[18:40] Speaker 1: It started due to incompetence.
[18:42] Speaker 5: It should have never started. You wouldn't have lost 30
[18:45] Speaker 5: percent of your country already. You've lost 30 percent of
[18:49] Speaker 5: your country and you've had Over a million people killed.
[18:54] Speaker 5: Between the two of them, over two million people killed.
[18:57] Speaker 5: That's a war that should have never started. And I
[18:59] Speaker 5: think it's time for Ukraine to get a new president.
[19:05] Speaker 1: Wrong and irrelevant, the two points he made. I don't
[19:10] Speaker 1: even know what to say about that. I find it appalling.
[19:14] Speaker 1: So does Brit Hume, senior political analyst at Fox News.
[19:19] Speaker 1: So does Brian Kilmeade, host of Fox and Friends weekday mornings,
[19:23] Speaker 1: can get to some of their quotes coming up a
[19:25] Speaker 1: little bit later. It's an interesting conversation on the right.
[19:29] Speaker 1: I know some of you are so against the idea
[19:31] Speaker 1: of us supporting Ukraine in any way, not our war, etc., etc.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Or such a fan of everything Trump does that maybe
[19:39] Speaker 1: you go along with this, the idea that, well, here's
[19:42] Speaker 1: CBS Evening News with what Trump's going to start doing.
[19:45] Speaker 2: Trump turning to Russia with diesel prices pumped up by
[19:48] Speaker 2: the Iran war. The president announcing a deal Friday to
[19:52] Speaker 2: buy Russian fuel despite sanctions. 300,000 tons now, 500,000 more
[19:57] Speaker 2: in November, a million more after that. He says it
[20:00] Speaker 2: will lower prices.
[20:02] Speaker 1: We're going to buy oil for Russia who's struggling financially
[20:06] Speaker 1: because of their war. We're going to help bail them
[20:09] Speaker 1: out so they can continue to kill Ukrainians as they're
[20:12] Speaker 1: riding a bus to work or to school, which is something.
[20:16] Speaker 1: Here's a Republican senator from North Carolina. That's about as
[20:20] Speaker 1: red as you can get. Senator Tom Tillis on Meet
[20:22] Speaker 1: the Press yesterday.
[20:23] Speaker 3: Look, this has deadly consequences. Giving Vladimir Putin any sense
[20:30] Speaker 3: that we're going to put our foot on the brakes
[20:32] Speaker 3: versus put our foot on the accelerator to ending this
[20:34] Speaker 3: war is and ensuring peace in Europe.
[20:38] Speaker 1: We've got to go back, and I do believe.
[20:40] Speaker 3: There's a legitimate case for saying the president's not.
[20:42] Speaker 1: Following the law.
[20:43] Speaker 3: We were very clear that Russia is the aggressor. Russia
[20:47] Speaker 3: is the one who can end this war by backing
[20:49] Speaker 3: out a territory.
[20:50] Speaker 1: That they occupied.
[20:52] Speaker 3: In fact, it should go all the way back to Crimea,
[20:54] Speaker 3: but at least the additional land that they've invaded over
[20:58] Speaker 3: the past three years.
[21:00] Speaker 1: So Brit Hume of Fox retweeted Boris Johnson, former prime
[21:04] Speaker 1: minister of Great Britain, saying it is sickening that the
[21:08] Speaker 1: USA is now lifting sanctions on Russia, Russian fuel and
[21:11] Speaker 1: transparently ridiculous to blame Ukraine for the spike in diesel prices,
[21:17] Speaker 1: gas prices around the world. Brit Hume said he's right
[21:20] Speaker 1: with that retweet. Then he had Brian Kilmeade get into
[21:23] Speaker 1: an argument on The Weeknd, Fox and Friends over The Weeknd.
[21:26] Speaker 1: with one of the women sitting there on the couch
[21:30] Speaker 1: with him who was going all, Zinlinsky needs to leave.
[21:34] Speaker 1: He's in the way for peace, y'all.
[21:36] Speaker 3: Oh, my.
[21:38] Speaker 1: And Brian Kilmeade was not having that, pushing back very
[21:41] Speaker 1: hard on that idea. You know, I've got to, oh,
[21:46] Speaker 1: do you have the Kilmeade quote? I do somewhere, but
[21:48] Speaker 1: I can't find it, but go on.
[21:49] Speaker 4: I was just going to say, if you want to
[21:52] Speaker 4: make the argument that this is, as you said, not
[21:55] Speaker 4: our war, It's not worth the depleting of our munitions.
[22:02] Speaker 4: We don't want to get involved in this sort of
[22:04] Speaker 4: foreign conflict, etc. You know, I disagree with you, but
[22:08] Speaker 4: I disagree with you respectfully, and I am interested in
[22:11] Speaker 4: your point of view and absolutely willing to weigh those arguments.
[22:14] Speaker 4: If you say Zelensky's the obstacle to peace, you're just
[22:17] Speaker 4: a moron.
[22:19] Speaker 1: I mean, that's an idiotic point of view. Sorry.
[22:22] Speaker 4: Unless you mean capitulation as peace. But that peace could
[22:28] Speaker 4: have been one in every conflict in the history of mankind.
[22:30] Speaker 4: We give up, you can have all of our stuff.
[22:33] Speaker 4: If that's what you mean by peace, I suppose you
[22:35] Speaker 4: have a point. First of all, I don't ever see
[22:42] Speaker 4: this on the left.
[22:45] Speaker 1: With anything. Where on their big CNN show or wherever,
[22:49] Speaker 1: where you have one of the Democrat panicked panel members
[22:53] Speaker 1: take the other side of an argument. They're all completely
[22:56] Speaker 1: in unison all the time on everything, which I only
[23:00] Speaker 1: see that happen on the right. Unless you can point
[23:03] Speaker 1: examples to me, I just don't see that happening. Independent
[23:06] Speaker 1: thinking is one of our principles. But I think this
[23:10] Speaker 1: is just awful. It's not going to work either. I mean,
[23:17] Speaker 1: it's awful even if it would work. Even if it
[23:19] Speaker 1: would make diesel prices come down and And, you know,
[23:25] Speaker 1: Trump would get what he wants before the election with
[23:26] Speaker 1: that everything. But it's not going to work. So it's
[23:29] Speaker 1: extra awful. The idea that Ukraine shouldn't hit diesel refineries
[23:35] Speaker 1: in Russia when it's fighting for its life and Russia
[23:38] Speaker 1: has been blasting their refineries and electric plants and everything
[23:46] Speaker 1: or school children at a hospital or whatever for the
[23:49] Speaker 1: past four years is nuts. And you're blaming Zelensky for
[23:53] Speaker 1: this and you tell them they need a new president.
[23:56] Speaker 1: I don't even... Like I said, I can't hardly comment
[23:59] Speaker 1: on that. It's so... Awful. Dateline Kiev.
[24:03] Speaker 4: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Russian strikes had hit energy
[24:07] Speaker 4: infrastructures across his country hours after President Trump declared an
[24:11] Speaker 4: energy ceasefire between the warring sides. The Russian attacks, including
[24:15] Speaker 4: on gas infrastructure, a power plant and a substation, comes
[24:18] Speaker 4: as the U.S. heaps pressure on Ukraine to stop striking
[24:21] Speaker 4: Russian oil refineries. And after Trump moved to allow Russia
[24:24] Speaker 4: to export diesel in a U.S. bid to drive down
[24:26] Speaker 4: American prices at the pump. I'm mystified. I'm disgusted. I'm discouraged.
[24:33] Speaker 4: It's just ridiculous.
[24:34] Speaker 1: So to what Republican Senator Tillis said, this may be illegal.
[24:39] Speaker 1: Remember when Lindsey Graham died, like the next day they
[24:43] Speaker 1: passed what they called the Lindsey Graham Act. Nobody in
[24:47] Speaker 1: the world is allowed to buy Russian oil. Are we
[24:53] Speaker 1: sanctioned the hell out of them, including some of our friends?
[24:56] Speaker 1: And now we're buying Russian oil. Despite that, if Lindsey
[25:01] Speaker 1: Graham were still alive, you know, he had a way
[25:05] Speaker 1: of massaging Trump to try to stay close to him.
[25:07] Speaker 1: I don't know if he did just come out and
[25:10] Speaker 1: opposed him or if he'd have been in the mix
[25:13] Speaker 1: of the conversation. And maybe this would have never happened.
[25:15] Speaker 1: I have no idea. But I wish Lindsey Graham were
[25:17] Speaker 1: alive to deal with it.
[25:18] Speaker 4: Yeah, this this will be seen, I think, as a
[25:20] Speaker 4: disastrous maneuver. We have, as you hinted at, applied enormous
[25:27] Speaker 4: pressure to allies and friends and frenemies from India to
[25:32] Speaker 4: China to others. Don't buy Russian oil or we'll make
[25:35] Speaker 4: it very, very painful for you. And then this? Weeks later?
[25:43] Speaker 4: It's just, it's terrible. It's a terrible, terrible look. It's
[25:46] Speaker 4: a foreign policy disaster. Enough said, at least by me.
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[26:54] Speaker 1: I don't want to get sucked into making this all
[26:59] Speaker 1: about Trump and his personality, which often happens... particularly on
[27:04] Speaker 1: your Trump hate networks. But I don't understand it as
[27:08] Speaker 1: a U.S. policy. We passed a law just like weeks
[27:12] Speaker 1: ago to not buy oil from Russia. Now we're buying
[27:16] Speaker 1: oil from Russia? We're sanctioned the hell out of India,
[27:20] Speaker 1: who we want to be an ally for buying Russian oil.
[27:23] Speaker 1: Because it's that important. But we're going to buy Russia,
[27:28] Speaker 1: who is even if you don't care about Ukraine, they're
[27:32] Speaker 1: supplying Iran who were at war with.
[27:35] Speaker 4: I did with oil and with targeting information to better
[27:39] Speaker 4: kill our troops.
[27:41] Speaker 1: Yeah. So according to the Financial Times. Witkoff and Kushner
[27:48] Speaker 1: threatened that we will cut off our targeting information we've
[27:52] Speaker 1: been giving to Ukraine if they don't stop hitting Ukraine.
[27:56] Speaker 1: diesel refineries in Russia. So we will not only give
[28:01] Speaker 1: money to Russia and buy their diesel, we're going to
[28:04] Speaker 1: cut off helping Ukraine if they don't stop doing what
[28:08] Speaker 1: they got to do to keep from being taken over
[28:10] Speaker 1: and enslaved. Unbelievable.
[28:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, you know, Russia's attacked Ukraine's oil and
[28:20] Speaker 4: gas infrastructure 20 times in the last week, for instance.
[28:22] Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we didn't even mention for a couple hours
[28:24] Speaker 1: that Trump truthed out over the weekend, we have a deal.
[28:30] Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine have both agreed to a ceasefire, no
[28:33] Speaker 1: more attacking each other's energy infrastructure. To which the Ukrainian
[28:37] Speaker 1: representative sitting at the table with Kushner and Witkoff, both
[28:42] Speaker 1: were like, what? Caught them completely by surprise. So there
[28:46] Speaker 1: is no deal that Ukraine agreed to. Zelensky had never
[28:50] Speaker 1: heard of it in his life. So I don't know
[28:52] Speaker 1: if Trump was just doing the salesman thing, the presumptive close.
[28:56] Speaker 1: which I've been on the wrong end of a few
[28:58] Speaker 1: times in my life, where they just announce, we have
[29:00] Speaker 1: a deal. And you're like, what? I haven't agreed to anything.
[29:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, the Kremlin spokesperson said, I really don't have any
[29:07] Speaker 4: comments on that.
[29:08] Speaker 1: Well, and then they bombed energy infrastructure, as you pointed out.
[29:12] Speaker 1: So neither side had any idea what was going on,
[29:16] Speaker 1: and neither side's going to stop. So what was that?
[29:19] Speaker 1: That was Trump's version of, don't. Feeling like the United
[29:24] Speaker 1: States is so powerful, we can just, like, move things
[29:27] Speaker 1: with words. Ugh.
[29:31] Speaker 4: And if I'm one of our many allies who is
[29:35] Speaker 4: buying stuff from Russia, I don't appreciate that. And I
[29:40] Speaker 4: see this, what's the reaction going to be in India?
[29:43] Speaker 4: All right, that's probably enough said.
[29:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, if you're thinking we're off the reservation,
[29:53] Speaker 1: how about Brit Hume, the senior political... analyzer of all
[30:00] Speaker 1: this stuff on Fox.
[30:03] Speaker 4: It's just, I don't, I don't live on a reservation,
[30:05] Speaker 4: but I see your point. It's the criticism is highly
[30:09] Speaker 4: widespread right now.
[30:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[30:13] Speaker 4: Yeah. So one of the Cornell seven is claiming that the,
[30:16] Speaker 4: the girl sodomized him. Um, He's also a Middle Eastern-tied
[30:21] Speaker 4: guy who says he hates America.
[30:23] Speaker 1: What? So this has just gotten weird.
[30:24] Speaker 3: What?
[30:25] Speaker 1: It started weird. It's gotten weirder. I didn't see that coming. Oh,
[30:28] Speaker 1: good Lord.
[30:29] Speaker 4: Nobody did, including him. Plus, well, that's an unfortunate....
[30:35] Speaker 1: Was that a... Hmm. All right. Yeah. Yeah.
[30:43] Speaker 6: Anyway.
[30:43] Speaker 1: Because it was dark or he just back-turned? I don't know.
[30:46] Speaker 1: Probably both. Let's see. What else should we get to?
[30:49] Speaker 1: Checking my oil. What's going on here?
[30:51] Speaker 4: Hello.
[30:53] Speaker 1: What's good for the goose? Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah,
[30:59] Speaker 1: we better regroup. Let's do that. We'll be right back.
[31:03] Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. The Pentagon announced that the execution of
[31:09] Speaker 1: the Fort Hood shooter would be live streamed, which will
[31:13] Speaker 1: be the first public execution in the U.S. since, I
[31:17] Speaker 1: want to say, a couple weeks ago. Yeah, so then
[31:21] Speaker 1: they put up a picture of some ICE agents. I
[31:23] Speaker 1: ruined the fun. Saturday Night Live's political stuff is just
[31:27] Speaker 1: so over the top. I like sketch comedy. I like
[31:30] Speaker 1: the other stuff. But the political stuff is just out
[31:33] Speaker 1: of bounds. I can understand those of you who will
[31:35] Speaker 1: not watch it. I just am such a fan of
[31:37] Speaker 1: sketch comedy my whole life, I just roll my eyes
[31:39] Speaker 1: at that to get to the next non-political thing. It's annoying, though.
[31:45] Speaker 1: I would agree.
[31:46] Speaker 4: So the Cornell 7 case, so-called, which was taking up
[31:50] Speaker 4: so much of our mindshare and everybody's last week, a
[31:53] Speaker 4: couple of developments. Number one, more and more people are observing,
[31:57] Speaker 4: including this Cornell student, Jared Lederman, who wrote a piece
[31:59] Speaker 4: that a lot of people are taking notice of, that Cornell...
[32:05] Speaker 4: has like an unbelievably weirdly aggressive, hey, sex is great,
[32:11] Speaker 4: all sorts of kinds of sex. And they incorporate it
[32:15] Speaker 4: into like what the university is teaching the youngsters.
[32:18] Speaker 1: That's weird even without this story. Well, right. Why are
[32:23] Speaker 1: you doing that?
[32:25] Speaker 4: Well, and if you're of an older generation, you're thinking, well,
[32:27] Speaker 4: how to avoid STDs and, you know, how to use
[32:30] Speaker 4: a condom and stuff like that.
[32:31] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[32:33] Speaker 4: And we've mentioned some of this, but so going back
[32:35] Speaker 4: to 2019, the university's official health authority co-authored a guide
[32:39] Speaker 4: titled Sexual Pleasure, Finding the Sweet Spot, which encouraged declared
[32:44] Speaker 4: sex can make for a terrific study break, encouraged students
[32:47] Speaker 4: to explore sexual fantasies and consider fetish gear, exposure to
[32:52] Speaker 4: our Pornography, Cornell assures us, is totally normal, and the
[32:56] Speaker 4: guide directs students toward ethical porn and the feminist porn awards.
[33:00] Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it was Nellie Bowles or another
[33:02] Speaker 4: person at the Free Press wrote, talking about this, the
[33:06] Speaker 4: feminist porn, whatever that is. I've never seen porn titled,
[33:10] Speaker 4: Step-Sister Teaches Her New Bro That Human Rights Are Women's
[33:13] Speaker 4: Rights And Women's Rights Are Human Rights.
[33:15] Speaker 1: But to be fair, I wasn't looking too hard, which
[33:17] Speaker 1: is really funny.
[33:22] Speaker 4: And it's available at the Sexual Health Resource Library. That
[33:26] Speaker 4: same year, Cornell Health published Self-Exploration, which we've quoted before,
[33:30] Speaker 4: which talks about how to have good sex and all.
[33:34] Speaker 4: The school's guide to self-exploration is tame compared to the
[33:37] Speaker 4: sexual inventory stock list, a copy of which can be
[33:40] Speaker 4: found on Cornell Health's website. The list, which is intended
[33:43] Speaker 4: to help students feel comfortable exploring their sexuality, but reads
[33:46] Speaker 4: more like the navigation menu of a porn website, including
[33:49] Speaker 4: group sex, cyber sex, open sexual relationships, sex toys, blindfolding,
[33:56] Speaker 4: on and on it goes. Cornell's education is not merely theoretical,
[34:01] Speaker 4: it's experiential. In October of 2017, they sponsored a new
[34:05] Speaker 4: Sex Toys 101 event. At the community center, Cornell's events listed...
[34:12] Speaker 4: advertised a sex-positive sex toy party during which students were
[34:15] Speaker 4: invited to engage in the uses of sex toys, purposes,
[34:18] Speaker 4: and demonstrations. Then they had a sex-in-the-dark thing where people
[34:22] Speaker 4: could ask their kinkiest questions in the dark with a
[34:27] Speaker 4: little anonymity, wearing the glowing wristbands, and it's like, you're
[34:32] Speaker 4: more into this than teaching English, like the English language,
[34:35] Speaker 4: for whatever reason. It's interesting, and I don't know how
[34:40] Speaker 4: typical it is, but And actually, hypersexualization is part of
[34:48] Speaker 4: this one branch of Marxism's ideas about exploding the nuclear
[34:51] Speaker 4: family because they consider the nuclear family one of the
[34:53] Speaker 4: great obstacles to Marxism. But whether it has to do
[34:56] Speaker 4: with that or they're just pervs at Cornell.
[34:58] Speaker 1: I don't know. I think just feminism took it too
[35:00] Speaker 1: far with, we're just like the men. It doesn't work
[35:03] Speaker 1: for the sex thing.
[35:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. So anyway, in a related yet utterly unrelated story,
[35:09] Speaker 4: Matthew Ingalls, the Cornell University frat brother who admitted he
[35:13] Speaker 4: initiated the now infamous threesome that turned into everything that
[35:17] Speaker 4: we've talked about. According to the New York Post, is
[35:21] Speaker 4: a U.S. hater who grew up in privilege and whose
[35:24] Speaker 4: father teaches Islamic studies in Dubai, of all things. You know,
[35:29] Speaker 4: we're talking about stuff he said when he was like 19,
[35:31] Speaker 4: 20 years old. I don't really, I don't brand people
[35:34] Speaker 4: as this or that for what they said when they're
[35:37] Speaker 4: 19 or 20.
[35:37] Speaker 1: If they say, look, I was crazy.
[35:40] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[35:41] Speaker 4: But anyway, so Ingalls, whose full name is not Matthew Ingalls,
[35:45] Speaker 4: but Umar Matthew Ingalls, attended Dubai International Academy in an
[35:50] Speaker 4: elite private school. He grew up between the Middle East
[35:56] Speaker 4: and the U.S. A resurfaced 2020 article said he was
[36:02] Speaker 4: embarrassed by his American citizenship while attending the posh school,
[36:06] Speaker 4: having to explain to people in the UAE that, no,
[36:08] Speaker 4: I'm not a Trump supporter. This is in 2020, so
[36:10] Speaker 4: he was, what, a teenager? I don't care about any
[36:13] Speaker 4: of that. But he also is claiming in the lawsuit
[36:19] Speaker 4: that when he was drunk... The gal involved did something
[36:26] Speaker 4: or other to him, which he was claiming he was
[36:29] Speaker 4: sodomized by Jane Doe.
[36:31] Speaker 1: So do you think he's actually concerned about that or
[36:35] Speaker 1: feels violated? Or is this just to point out how, look,
[36:40] Speaker 1: it's impossible to figure out what went wrong and who's
[36:43] Speaker 1: to blame for what? Are you going to pretend this
[36:45] Speaker 1: is a one-sided thing on who makes decisions?
[36:48] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[36:51] Speaker 6: Yeah, if it is merely a gesture to illustrate the
[37:01] Speaker 6: absurdity of the hardcore screaming for quote-unquote justice crowd, I
[37:06] Speaker 6: appreciate it as.
[37:08] Speaker 1: Legal political theater.
[37:09] Speaker 4: And or who knows, maybe the little gal who obviously
[37:12] Speaker 4: was up for some kink. did something unexpected and adventurous,
[37:17] Speaker 4: as she was educated to do, probably in a sex
[37:19] Speaker 4: toy session sponsored by the university.
[37:22] Speaker 1: Well, then I would say to Dude, if that's it,
[37:23] Speaker 1: I'd say to Dude the same thing I'd say to her.
[37:25] Speaker 1: Don't crawl into bed with, like, eight other hammered people
[37:28] Speaker 1: who are naked and arms and legs are flying around. Wow.
[37:32] Speaker 1: I'm working with a Puritan. Unbelievable. If you miss this segment,
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