# This Is All So Phony & Stupid

An episode of [Armstrong & Getty On Demand](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1259438987), 14 Oct 2026, 36 min.

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Hour 4 of A&G features... • Women's double standards & boys in girl's sports • Listener texts! • British Columbian drug deaths & poor policies • Final Thoughts! Stupid Should Hurt: https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
[0:05] Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.
[0:07] Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
[0:12] Speaker 2: here's Armstrong and Getty.
[0:23] Speaker 3: October 8th was World Dyslexia Awareness Day. Sadly, sufferers missed
[0:29] Speaker 3: the celebration because they couldn't read the invitation. Turns out
[0:33] Speaker 3: the event was in Tulsa, but they all went out
[0:36] Speaker 3: to look for a slut.
[0:40] Speaker 4: Wow.
[0:40] Speaker 2: What? Wow.
[0:42] Speaker 5: That's just terrible.
[0:43] Speaker 2: It's bad on every level. I don't approve. Here's a
[0:47] Speaker 2: dumb story.
[0:52] Speaker 6: Travis Kelsey, that would be the husband of Taylor Swift,
[0:57] Speaker 6: plays for the Kansas City Chiefs big football star, liked,
[1:02] Speaker 6: as in clicked, the heart button on Shane Gillis' monologue
[1:08] Speaker 6: from Saturday Night Live the other night and is now
[1:10] Speaker 6: under tremendous pressure from women's groups to apologize or something.
[1:15] Speaker 2: No, shut up. I hope he does. I hope he
[1:18] Speaker 2: just ignores it. Yes, Katie.
[1:19] Speaker 4: I'd just like to point out that all the same
[1:21] Speaker 4: women that are complaining about Shane Gillis's... Innocuous monologue? Yeah,
[1:27] Speaker 4: so they're all the same ones that were mad about
[1:30] Speaker 4: Sidney Sweeney needing to put more clothes on, and now they're,
[1:35] Speaker 4: you know.
[1:36] Speaker 2: Right. I see your point. You see what I'm saying?
[1:39] Speaker 2: It's permanent offendedness. That's the theme.
[1:43] Speaker 4: So Sidney Sweeney needs to put more clothes on, but
[1:45] Speaker 4: women can be as naked as they want.
[1:47] Speaker 6: I didn't mean to go here, but it kind of
[1:50] Speaker 6: fits in with the Cornell 7 thing.
[1:52] Speaker 2: I mean, we got to make a decision.
[1:53] Speaker 6: Either you can be super sexy and slutty and everything
[1:57] Speaker 6: like that all the time, and then we get.
[2:00] Speaker 2: To say, wow, that's sexy or slutty. Or don't. I mean,
[2:06] Speaker 2: you can't do both. Oh, you know what?
[2:08] Speaker 5: I should have grabbed it. Just saw a great Dave
[2:11] Speaker 5: Chappelle bit the other day. He was younger, so it
[2:15] Speaker 5: goes back a while. But he's talking about women who
[2:18] Speaker 5: are dressed like hoes. And he says, you know, okay,
[2:23] Speaker 5: so you dress like that, and he gives some very
[2:25] Speaker 5: graphic descriptions, as is his want, his genre, his over.
[2:31] Speaker 5: And then he says, but if you say, wow, look
[2:35] Speaker 5: at those, they'll be like, oh, my God.
[2:37] Speaker 2: I can't believe you. You are so sick. And well,
[2:41] Speaker 2: don't listen. He said, what if I were to put
[2:43] Speaker 2: on full police uniform? I mean, I got the hat.
[2:46] Speaker 5: I got the badge.
[2:47] Speaker 2: I got everything. And somebody runs up to me. Please
[2:49] Speaker 2: help us. Please help us. He's down over there. Could
[2:51] Speaker 2: you help us? And you'd be like, where do you
[2:53] Speaker 2: get off saying I'm acting like I'm a police officer?
[2:57] Speaker 2: How can you do that? If you don't want to
[2:59] Speaker 2: be treated like a profession, don't dress like it. And
[3:02] Speaker 2: so that.
[3:03] Speaker 6: Would help, I think, women kind a lot if we
[3:07] Speaker 6: dealt with that level of feminism where what Shane Gillis
[3:12] Speaker 6: described the way women dressing at the gym, some women
[3:15] Speaker 6: dressing at the gym. If you're going to live in
[3:19] Speaker 6: a world where you think guys shouldn't look or notice,
[3:23] Speaker 6: what are you talking about? Are you telling me you're
[3:27] Speaker 6: dressed that way because it's the most comfortable thing you
[3:29] Speaker 6: can come up with? And in that color because somehow
[3:31] Speaker 6: that benefits you? I mean, what are you even trying to...
[3:35] Speaker 6: To me, it is a, we're going to put you
[3:39] Speaker 6: in the most uncomfortable position we possibly can. And if
[3:42] Speaker 6: we get any reaction out of you, we're going to pounce.
[3:45] Speaker 7: Right.
[3:45] Speaker 2: It's an exercise of power.
[3:46] Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
[3:48] Speaker 2: And a denial of reality. And a denial of reality.
[3:51] Speaker 5: Often to the gal's detriment, like the poor Cornell 7 gal.
[3:55] Speaker 5: I don't think, you know, the guys are guilty of
[3:58] Speaker 5: what she's saying they are. It was ugly, certainly. But
[4:01] Speaker 5: she is absolutely suffering from this. Suffering terribly from it.
[4:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[4:05] Speaker 5: So what was I going to say? Oh, you know,
[4:07] Speaker 5: the gals who are lecturing Travis Kelsey about that? I'd
[4:11] Speaker 5: like to tell them, hey, sweetheart, why don't you get
[4:14] Speaker 5: back in the kitchen and bake some cookies?
[4:16] Speaker 2: Some bitter, bitter cookies.
[4:18] Speaker 5: Wow.
[4:20] Speaker 6: So there, I see both at the gym I go to.
[4:22] Speaker 6: I go to a very small gym that doesn't have
[4:24] Speaker 6: that many people, period. But there are some young women
[4:28] Speaker 6: who wear like loose-fitting clothing, like loose-fitting sweats and a
[4:30] Speaker 6: sweatshirt to work out. And then there are some women
[4:33] Speaker 6: that dress like they're trying to find a husband or
[4:36] Speaker 6: something or a boyfriend or whatever. And so I would
[4:39] Speaker 6: like to discuss both of them. Why did you choose
[4:41] Speaker 6: that outfit? There's got to be a reason.
[4:45] Speaker 3: Right.
[4:47] Speaker 5: The idea that there's Well, obviously, there are choices between
[4:52] Speaker 5: a burqa and nudity.
[4:56] Speaker 2: Right. All right?
[4:57] Speaker 5: And not every choice short of nudity is a burqa.
[5:03] Speaker 5: You got to calibrate things like we do every moment
[5:07] Speaker 5: of our lives. But again, it's a leftist ideology that
[5:13] Speaker 5: is looking for the chance to be offended. Because if
[5:17] Speaker 5: you're offended and that you can make them be in
[5:19] Speaker 5: the wrong, then you have power over them. It's that
[5:22] Speaker 5: it's a technique of capture, as James Lindsay has pointed
[5:26] Speaker 5: out so aptly.
[5:28] Speaker 6: My kids and I were talking about this last night.
[5:29] Speaker 6: Just wonder where Taylor Swift is on the whole thing,
[5:33] Speaker 6: because she's, you know, lefty politics. Dresses sexy, but not slutty.
[5:40] Speaker 6: Is that fair to say, Katie? You think that's accurate?
[5:44] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[5:44] Speaker 2: Dresses sexy, but not slutty.
[5:46] Speaker 6: Um, does she, she and Travis on the same page
[5:50] Speaker 6: on this whole, he shouldn't have liked, does she know
[5:52] Speaker 6: that he hearted the Shane Gillis monologue?
[5:55] Speaker 2: And is she cool with that? Or does she think
[5:56] Speaker 2: that's appalling?
[5:58] Speaker 5: Has she met him? He's a big American football player.
[6:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:03] Speaker 2: He thinks Shane Gillis is funny. Of course he does.
[6:07] Speaker 2: You know any football players? I do. Oh, this is
[6:11] Speaker 2: all so phony and stupid. It is phony and stupid.
[6:15] Speaker 5: I mean, it's like soggy bread and boring circuses. I mean,
[6:18] Speaker 5: I'm just getting so tired of it all.
[6:21] Speaker 2: You know what I'm tired of?
[6:22] Speaker 6: And I thought this topic was done or was going
[6:24] Speaker 6: to be done soon.
[6:27] Speaker 2: Boys competing in girls sports. How has this not been
[6:32] Speaker 2: taken care of at this point?
[6:34] Speaker 6: But just yesterday, some brave girls, about half of a
[6:40] Speaker 6: high school girls cross country team in Washington state, walked
[6:45] Speaker 6: off the course and refused to participate with one of
[6:47] Speaker 6: their own teammates because their school let a boy transfer
[6:53] Speaker 6: from the boys' team to the girls' team.
[6:55] Speaker 2: Mid-season.
[6:57] Speaker 6: Well, he'd already placed 76th or something like that as
[7:00] Speaker 6: a boy, and then as a girl, he placed first.
[7:03] Speaker 2: In one race and second in another. It's worse than that.
[7:06] Speaker 2: 76th in the JV race.
[7:08] Speaker 5: And then he was winning varsity meets later that same year.
[7:12] Speaker 2: It's just hilarious.
[7:13] Speaker 5: The fact that Washingtonians in the deeper blue yard, the
[7:16] Speaker 5: more ideologically insane you are, could say, oh, no, no, no.
[7:19] Speaker 2: He's a girl now. You are a crazy person. Um.
[7:26] Speaker 6: one commenter up in Washington State tweeted at Governor Bob Ferguson,
[7:30] Speaker 6: the governor of the state of Washington, this is.
[7:33] Speaker 2: On you, cowards, absolute cowards.
[7:36] Speaker 6: We will never forgive you for how you abandoned women
[7:38] Speaker 6: and girls at the altar of your radical ideologies, and
[7:41] Speaker 6: we will never forgive. Also this comment, when a boy
[7:46] Speaker 6: slash man is allowed to compete in girl women's sports,
[7:50] Speaker 6: it is sold as inclusivity.
[7:53] Speaker 2: But it isn't, obviously. It's exclusive. It excludes girls.
[7:57] Speaker 6: And women from having the only category that exists for
[8:00] Speaker 6: them to compete in. While the boy man has two choices.
[8:04] Speaker 6: I'll either compete in this one, and if I don't
[8:06] Speaker 6: do good enough, I'll go compete in that one. But
[8:08] Speaker 6: the girl doesn't have an option.
[8:09] Speaker 2: It's less inclusive, you morons.
[8:14] Speaker 6: I don't it is unbelievable cowardice. I can understand how
[8:18] Speaker 6: you a couple of years back, a governor of whatever
[8:22] Speaker 6: state or the principal of whatever school didn't want to
[8:25] Speaker 6: step into this. But can't you see you're on safe
[8:27] Speaker 6: ground now? Let a couple people howl and send you
[8:31] Speaker 6: nasty emails. But come out and say wherever you are
[8:34] Speaker 6: in the country, no boys on the girls high school teams.
[8:37] Speaker 4: None.
[8:38] Speaker 2: We're not doing that.
[8:40] Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, but I think you're overlooking
[8:42] Speaker 5: the fact that a lot of these people, especially in
[8:45] Speaker 5: Washington state and places like that, they actually believe this.
[8:49] Speaker 2: They don't. They're not cowards. They're cultists.
[8:52] Speaker 5: You know, those people who drank the was a flavor
[8:55] Speaker 5: aid or whatever it actually was in the Jonestown massacre.
[8:58] Speaker 5: They believed Jim Jones. To the point that they drank
[9:03] Speaker 5: the Kool-Aid and made their children drink it too, and
[9:06] Speaker 5: it killed them painfully. These people are like that. They're cultists.
[9:11] Speaker 5: They have extreme, bizarre beliefs.
[9:14] Speaker 2: I heard another radio host, who I won't name.
[9:18] Speaker 6: Make the point that how about the adults that keep
[9:21] Speaker 6: their mouths shut out of fear?
[9:22] Speaker 2: You freaking cowards.
[9:24] Speaker 6: There are people like you said who agree with it,
[9:27] Speaker 6: but there's a bunch of adults that don't agree with it.
[9:29] Speaker 6: And they're keeping their mouths shut because they're afraid. I
[9:32] Speaker 6: swear to God, if I were in this position, because
[9:34] Speaker 6: I've been to lots of high school girls basketball games,
[9:38] Speaker 6: my kids high schools. If there was a boy on
[9:40] Speaker 6: the team, I would walk out on the court in
[9:42] Speaker 6: the middle of the game until they hauled me off
[9:44] Speaker 6: by security.
[9:45] Speaker 2: What are we doing here? This is nuts. Who thinks
[9:49] Speaker 2: this makes sense?
[9:52] Speaker 6: I would let them drag me out of there before,
[9:54] Speaker 6: even if I didn't have a kid on the team.
[9:56] Speaker 2: This is crazy. Most people are hurt. animals.
[10:00] Speaker 5: They go where they're herded. And on the left, it's
[10:04] Speaker 5: a much, much higher percentage. And so if you just
[10:07] Speaker 5: want to be accepted, you live in a lefty part
[10:10] Speaker 5: of the world.
[10:11] Speaker 2: No, you're never going to find that courage. You're a sheep.
[10:13] Speaker 2: You're asking a sheep to behave like a lion. They don't.
[10:17] Speaker 5: They won't.
[10:18] Speaker 6: So it was a track meet or a cross-country meet
[10:20] Speaker 6: with that high school competing, obviously, against other high schools.
[10:23] Speaker 6: And they got a couple of the athletes from the
[10:25] Speaker 6: other high school. on Fox & Friends this morning being
[10:28] Speaker 6: asked about this whole thing.
[10:30] Speaker 8: So, Sierra, September 5th, this athlete finished 76th in the boys'
[10:36] Speaker 8: JV cross-country race. Then about 24 days later, September 29th,
[10:41] Speaker 8: finished first in the girls' varsity race. So it's JV
[10:45] Speaker 8: on the boys, finishing 76th, but finishing first on varsity girls.
[10:50] Speaker 8: Is this why you decided to protest?
[10:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's taking that spot, so.
[10:59] Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair at all and um he's
[11:03] Speaker 1: taking away a spot from every single girl that lines
[11:05] Speaker 1: up on that line so.
[11:06] Speaker 6: Uh and then applauding the bravery we'll get that clip
[11:09] Speaker 6: on what about what.
[11:11] Speaker 8: Happened yesterday people on this athlete's team half the team
[11:16] Speaker 8: decided not to compete um yeah.
[11:19] Speaker 1: I think it's amazing what they did and i think
[11:21] Speaker 1: it's really brave and courageous of And it is one
[11:26] Speaker 1: of their teammates. So I really applaud those cameras girls
[11:30] Speaker 1: and I couldn't be.
[11:31] Speaker 2: More proud of them.
[11:32] Speaker 6: But how does it come down to the children to
[11:34] Speaker 6: solve this? Where are the adults making the loud noises?
[11:39] Speaker 6: You can't tell me even in Washington state that all
[11:41] Speaker 6: the coaches and parents and teachers think this makes sense.
[11:46] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[11:46] Speaker 5: It's a combination of cultists and cowards.
[11:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[11:48] Speaker 5: A hundred percent.
[11:50] Speaker 2: I'm looking at a picture of this dude.
[11:52] Speaker 5: He's he's a head taller than, Head and shoulders taller
[11:57] Speaker 5: than almost all of the girls except the tallest of them.
[12:00] Speaker 5: And he's got the clearly developed shoulders of a young,
[12:04] Speaker 5: fit male.
[12:05] Speaker 2: I mean, it's just laughable. I wish I did. Oh, please.
[12:08] Speaker 5: I haven't had a belly that flat since, well, anyway.
[12:16] Speaker 5: It's idiotic and obscene. But again, once in a while...
[12:21] Speaker 5: you've got to detach yourself from your emotional reaction to
[12:25] Speaker 5: this and, and, and be a scientist and say, all right,
[12:30] Speaker 5: what does this tell us about human beings in a
[12:34] Speaker 5: social political system that you can get them to go
[12:38] Speaker 5: along with something that they find repugnant or, um, that's
[12:43] Speaker 5: its own question.
[12:44] Speaker 2: Norwell wrote brilliantly.
[12:45] Speaker 5: About that or, um, try to understand the dynamic where
[12:51] Speaker 5: somebody is led to believe something that is so patently untrue.
[12:54] Speaker 5: It's ludicrous, but they have internalized that, that philosophy.
[12:59] Speaker 2: And now they believe it and are denying it to themselves.
[13:03] Speaker 2: Cause Orwell wrote about that too.
[13:05] Speaker 5: I mean, that tells you what you, that's a very
[13:08] Speaker 5: disturbing thing about human beings.
[13:10] Speaker 6: We got one pushback, I think on the text line
[13:13] Speaker 6: that is worth addressing, but we'll have to do that
[13:15] Speaker 6: when we come back and then we'll move on to
[13:16] Speaker 6: other things. Are we living in a world where we
[13:19] Speaker 6: have no ambassador to Greece and the Pope has only
[13:23] Speaker 6: part of his lungs?
[13:23] Speaker 2: These are tough times. Much on the way. Stay here.
[13:30] Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
[13:34] Speaker 8: Well, that brings us to your opportunity to say just
[13:38] Speaker 8: a few last words to the voters.
[13:45] Speaker 1: We have guns, too.
[13:48] Speaker 5: All right.
[13:49] Speaker 2: So we went through this earlier.
[13:51] Speaker 6: This is a drunk woman in Indiana who was running
[13:55] Speaker 6: for something, and she was hammered.
[13:59] Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun with it. Now we're three.
[14:01] Speaker 6: Look for the podcast Armstrong and Giddy on demand. But
[14:03] Speaker 6: I hadn't seen the video. I just saw the video.
[14:06] Speaker 2: Wow. She's got the drunk mannerisms to lean back in
[14:09] Speaker 2: her chair. Lots of big arms. You know what the
[14:12] Speaker 2: problem is? Big arm gestures and stuff like that. Oh,
[14:15] Speaker 2: my God.
[14:17] Speaker 6: Somebody said she's like Drunk Uncle from Saturday Night Live.
[14:19] Speaker 6: She really was.
[14:21] Speaker 2: Very much.
[14:21] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[14:22] Speaker 2: Okay.
[14:23] Speaker 6: So we're just talking about a boy claiming he was
[14:28] Speaker 6: a girl competing on a high school cross-country team in Washington.
[14:33] Speaker 6: Half the girls team walked out. So we got this text,
[14:36] Speaker 6: which we've gotten before and I've not responded to. Again,
[14:39] Speaker 6: please comment on Sophie Cunningham taking a boy's job on
[14:43] Speaker 6: her football team, which I'd never looked into before. So
[14:45] Speaker 6: I finally looked into it. Sophie Cunningham, who is a
[14:52] Speaker 6: star player in the WNBA, plays with Caitlin Clark. Lots
[14:55] Speaker 6: of controversy around her because she came out anti-boys and
[14:59] Speaker 6: girls sports. And so she's considered transphobic and she gets
[15:03] Speaker 6: death threats and people protest her everywhere she goes and
[15:06] Speaker 6: all that sort of stuff. In high school, she won
[15:11] Speaker 6: a halftime kicking contest, made a 45-year-old field goal. 45-year-old
[15:16] Speaker 6: field goal? 45-yard field goal.
[15:19] Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
[15:19] Speaker 6: I don't know why I said year old. She won
[15:22] Speaker 6: a halftime kicking contest, kicked a 45-yard field goal. And
[15:26] Speaker 6: the high school football coach thought, she's better than the
[15:29] Speaker 6: guy we got. We need to make her our kicker.
[15:31] Speaker 2: And they did.
[15:32] Speaker 6: And it was at the end of the season, and
[15:34] Speaker 6: she kicked two extra points and blah, blah, blah. So
[15:37] Speaker 6: apparently her participation has become a controversial thing because of
[15:42] Speaker 6: her statements opposing transgender women. Critics have pointed to her
[15:45] Speaker 6: own experience playing on a boys team, while defenders argue
[15:48] Speaker 6: that the circumstances are different.
[15:53] Speaker 2: Seriously.
[15:54] Speaker 1: I know.
[15:56] Speaker 2: Seriously. Seriously.
[16:04] Speaker 6: So the person that texted, and what? Text me with
[16:07] Speaker 6: the and what. And so.
[16:10] Speaker 5: So, since it's exceedingly rare that for a brief time
[16:17] Speaker 5: in the physical development of boys and girls, one girl
[16:22] Speaker 5: out of 50 million might be able to make a
[16:27] Speaker 5: boys team in a non-contact capacity.
[16:32] Speaker 2: That what now? Exactly. What's the next sentence to that?
[16:36] Speaker 2: As opposed to.
[16:38] Speaker 6: If you allow boys to participate in girls sports, they'll
[16:41] Speaker 6: dominate every sport.
[16:42] Speaker 2: There'll be no girls playing any sport anywhere. Ever again.
[16:46] Speaker 2: Ever again.
[16:47] Speaker 5: Except for the one Sophie Cunningham in the country who
[16:53] Speaker 5: can briefly.
[16:55] Speaker 2: at.
[16:55] Speaker 5: A particular stage of her development, participate in sports. She'll
[16:59] Speaker 5: be the only girl in girls' sports. That's the difference,
[17:03] Speaker 5: my friend.
[17:04] Speaker 2: By the way, we forgot to mention the L.A.
[17:06] Speaker 6: Rams dumped Thicker Kicker after he missed the overtime field
[17:10] Speaker 6: goal the other night. Do you know Thicker Kicker? The
[17:12] Speaker 6: great big weeboop kicker got booted off the Rams.
[17:15] Speaker 2: Sorry, Thicker Kicker. Disappointing. Armstrong and Getty. Coming up. Coming up,
[17:23] Speaker 2: I guess my microphone is already on.
[17:24] Speaker 6: Coming up, TSA bans popular Halloween outfits. Here's what you
[17:29] Speaker 6: need to know if you want to fly in costume.
[17:31] Speaker 2: Have you ever flown in costume? Wait a minute. Let's
[17:34] Speaker 2: talk about your premise here. Have you ever gone in there?
[17:37] Speaker 6: Well, it's October 31st. I'm on a business trip. I
[17:40] Speaker 6: guess I'll go ahead and put on my Superman outfit.
[17:44] Speaker 5: And my executive, I'm going to go as a tiger,
[17:47] Speaker 5: and my executive vice president is going to go as
[17:49] Speaker 5: the insane guy who climbed into the tiger enclosure.
[17:51] Speaker 2: It's going to be great. That's actually a pretty good outfit.
[17:58] Speaker 1: No, it isn't.
[17:59] Speaker 6: Yeah, you go to a company Halloween party, you're the tiger,
[18:02] Speaker 6: and the other guy kind of lays on the ground.
[18:04] Speaker 2: Hey! Oh, that's terrible. I wish I hadn't thought of it.
[18:09] Speaker 2: All right, so that's coming up, is it? All right, great.
[18:12] Speaker 5: So I'm trying to decide whether to get into this
[18:14] Speaker 5: or not.
[18:15] Speaker 2: Canada is such an interesting place. I was just there.
[18:18] Speaker 5: I drove halfway across Canada. The trade war is so dopey.
[18:23] Speaker 5: I like Canadians, generally speaking. It's a beautiful country, wonderfully
[18:26] Speaker 5: beautiful country, and vast. I mean, just so big physically.
[18:31] Speaker 5: But sociologically, it has gone completely fruit bat nuts.
[18:36] Speaker 2: I mean, it is woke....
[18:40] Speaker 5: And self-hating, and DEI, and anti-free speech, and just, Canada
[18:48] Speaker 5: has lost its mind.
[18:49] Speaker 2: Their drug policies are insane.
[18:53] Speaker 5: And I'm just going to touch on this, then move
[18:55] Speaker 5: to the main thing I wanted to talk about, but
[18:58] Speaker 5: British Columbia, which is not, can somebody find the population
[19:03] Speaker 5: of British Columbia? I'm sorry, I should have looked it up, but.
[19:06] Speaker 2: I'm going to guess 5 million.
[19:10] Speaker 5: It's not a ton of people, but in 2025, British Columbia,
[19:16] Speaker 5: which has just insanely, like, Oregonian, Portlandian drug policies.
[19:23] Speaker 2: What's the population, Katie? 5.68 million. Look at me. Excellent guess.
[19:28] Speaker 2: So I was just there, and I counted them as
[19:30] Speaker 2: I drove through. There you go.
[19:31] Speaker 1: Ding!
[19:32] Speaker 5: Anyway, so British Columbia has these insanely Portlandian drug policies.
[19:40] Speaker 5: They saw close to 2,000 drug deaths, a sky-high death
[19:48] Speaker 5: rate of 32%. per 100,000 every year, or during the
[19:54] Speaker 5: years of this program, which they've walked back a little bit.
[19:57] Speaker 5: But every month in 2025 saw an average of four
[20:01] Speaker 5: or more unregulated drug deaths every single day.
[20:07] Speaker 2: Just people dying. dying by the enormous numbers.
[20:11] Speaker 5: And this writer, Sam Munson, writes, they were the province's
[20:16] Speaker 5: biggest cause of unnatural death by orders of magnitude over
[20:20] Speaker 5: all other cases. How compassionate. And I'm reminded of the
[20:24] Speaker 5: brilliant Nellie Bowles piece. It was the first thing I
[20:26] Speaker 5: ever read that she wrote, talking about San Francisco, her
[20:29] Speaker 5: home city, talking about a very similar thing, similar context.
[20:35] Speaker 5: And Saying, this doesn't look like compassion to me. This
[20:38] Speaker 5: looks like easing our young people into death on the pavement.
[20:41] Speaker 6: Well, Vancouver, big city, gorgeous, except for street people that
[20:50] Speaker 6: look to be dying all.
[20:51] Speaker 2: Over the place. Yeah. All over the place. And a
[20:54] Speaker 2: lot of them are dying. Yeah.
[20:56] Speaker 6: And apparently they actually are dying. Number one cause of,
[20:58] Speaker 6: was it unnatural death? Is that what you said?
[21:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially.
[21:02] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
[21:02] Speaker 2: Not disease.
[21:03] Speaker 6: All the seal attacks. Is that a natural death?
[21:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I don't know. Seal attack. I don't know. Anyway,
[21:17] Speaker 2: don't do drugs. Moose tramplings, etc. All natural attacks.
[21:25] Speaker 5: Anyway, where was I? It seemed important at the time.
[21:29] Speaker 2: Sick.
[21:29] Speaker 5: Oh, we'll revisit Canada's drug policies perhaps tomorrow.
[21:33] Speaker 6: Combine the drug policy with the euthanasia. You got some
[21:36] Speaker 6: pretty weird stuff.
[21:38] Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, and I'll just give you a
[21:41] Speaker 5: little hint of what this story is all about.
[21:44] Speaker 2: And your favorite sport's hockey? I mean, where does it end? No,
[21:47] Speaker 2: wait a minute.
[21:48] Speaker 5: That's where our agreement ends, sir. The most popular sport
[21:52] Speaker 5: is hockey?
[21:53] Speaker 2: Yes. Hockey's a fantastic sport. It's exciting, action-packed, fast, violent, graceful.
[22:01] Speaker 6: You play Canadian football with a wider field for some reason.
[22:06] Speaker 5: Well, that's... Okay. So, this month, the Canadian federal government
[22:11] Speaker 5: will start supplying paper straws and, like, foil surfaces... For
[22:17] Speaker 5: prisoners to more safely inhale their drugs.
[22:22] Speaker 2: Freebasing, etc. Do they allow drugs in prison in Canada?
[22:25] Speaker 6: Or are they just going with the assumption you're going
[22:28] Speaker 6: to get drugs, so we might as well give you
[22:29] Speaker 6: the paraphernalia?
[22:30] Speaker 2: Which is it? Well... Both are bad. Both are dumb. Yes, yes.
[22:37] Speaker 2: It's not really clear to me. If you allow them,
[22:39] Speaker 2: that's nuts. And if you.
[22:43] Speaker 6: Think so many people are doing drugs, you might as
[22:45] Speaker 6: well hand out the paraphernalia. Do a better job of
[22:47] Speaker 6: stopping the drugs coming in.
[22:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[22:50] Speaker 5: So the staff memo from Corrections Canada explained the straws
[22:53] Speaker 5: are intended for inhaling substances in powdered form or inhaling
[22:56] Speaker 5: vapor from heated substances. How, one might ask, could a
[23:00] Speaker 5: change of straw make jailhouse coke or heroin any safer?
[23:04] Speaker 6: Simple.
[23:04] Speaker 5: They'll reduce harm by preventing cuts to the inner nostril
[23:07] Speaker 5: that metal or plastic straws can cause. Cuts that spread
[23:10] Speaker 5: hepatitis B, C, and other dangerous diseases. What a perfect
[23:14] Speaker 5: role for the government. The same memo publicized plans to
[23:20] Speaker 5: hand out foil strips, especially designed for safer smoking, of
[23:23] Speaker 5: drugs like meth and crack, along with drug testing kits
[23:27] Speaker 5: meant to help prisoners confirm their cocaine isn't contaminated with
[23:31] Speaker 5: fentanyl or trank.
[23:33] Speaker 6: So I'm a prisoner in Canada. I got busted for
[23:36] Speaker 6: syrup smoking. thief thievery or wow a poached moose or
[23:41] Speaker 6: whatever idiotic and childish cliches and and i feel like
[23:46] Speaker 6: the taxpayers should provide me with the things i need
[23:51] Speaker 6: to continue to do hard drugs which is going to
[23:54] Speaker 6: make it much more difficult for the guards to deal
[23:56] Speaker 6: with me much more much less likely that i'm going
[24:00] Speaker 6: to be rehabilitated and be able to go out into
[24:02] Speaker 6: the world and be a.
[24:05] Speaker 1: Right.
[24:06] Speaker 2: It has to do with equity, they explain.
[24:10] Speaker 5: What?
[24:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
[24:12] Speaker 5: The all-purpose word that means we can do anything because
[24:16] Speaker 5: there are some black people involved or something. Anyway, last month,
[24:20] Speaker 5: a federal judge in British Columbia stayed the convictions of
[24:23] Speaker 5: two drug traffickers because she said they were acting not
[24:26] Speaker 5: for profit but out of compassion. Their thing was, we'll
[24:29] Speaker 5: have a safe supply of drugs to our customers. We
[24:32] Speaker 5: check them all to make sure they're not cut with
[24:34] Speaker 5: fentanyl or other adulterants. That was a selfless act, according
[24:38] Speaker 5: to the judge, whose ruling declared the addicts have a
[24:40] Speaker 5: human right to access the drugs of their choice, never
[24:43] Speaker 5: mind the laws on the books. And in June, a
[24:46] Speaker 5: group of academics, obviously, I'm tired of talking about why
[24:49] Speaker 5: we're not going to talk about this now. Let's go
[24:51] Speaker 5: ahead and talk about it.
[24:52] Speaker 6: Anyway.
[24:54] Speaker 5: In June of this year, a group of academics with
[24:57] Speaker 5: close links to Canada's public school systems created documents for
[25:01] Speaker 5: kids as young as kindergartners, it's curriculum essentially, emphasizing anti-stigma
[25:08] Speaker 5: drug education. In other words, it's not okay to say
[25:11] Speaker 5: using drugs is not okay.
[25:14] Speaker 2: Even to Canadian kindergartners. Wow, I would hate that.
[25:21] Speaker 5: Can you imagine this? You're the parent of a teenage
[25:24] Speaker 5: drug addict. In February, the government had to admit that, yeah,
[25:27] Speaker 5: we're letting 16-year-olds shoot up in government-approved safe injection sites.
[25:39] Speaker 5: This is absolutely extraordinary. They are aiding and abetting addiction
[25:47] Speaker 5: until the addict dies.
[25:49] Speaker 6: I don't.
[25:50] Speaker 2: In astonishing numbers.
[25:51] Speaker 6: I don't actually know that much about Canadian politics. I've
[25:54] Speaker 6: driven across most of Canada a couple of times. I
[25:57] Speaker 6: wonder if it's like the United States, because I like
[25:59] Speaker 6: rural areas wherever I go, anywhere in the world. I
[26:02] Speaker 6: prefer them to cities because that's the way I grew up.
[26:05] Speaker 6: But like driving across Canada and stopping all these tiny
[26:09] Speaker 6: little towns and everything like that, it didn't strike me
[26:11] Speaker 6: as people who think Hardcore drugs and prisoners doing taxpayer
[26:17] Speaker 6: all made sense. But so is it like the United
[26:19] Speaker 6: States where those people ain't voting for any of that stuff?
[26:22] Speaker 6: It's the population in Vancouver and Toronto that drives it.
[26:27] Speaker 2: Precisely, yeah.
[26:28] Speaker 5: Canada is, politically speaking, very much like we've mentioned Oregon
[26:32] Speaker 5: or Washington State.
[26:34] Speaker 2: Very large places full of.
[26:36] Speaker 5: Rural areas, communities, small towns with reasonable, smart, practical people.
[26:44] Speaker 5: Because of the weather and geography and everything else, they
[26:46] Speaker 5: are so vastly outnumbered by the woke city dwellers.
[26:50] Speaker 2: They just don't get a say. That's nuts stuff.
[26:55] Speaker 6: And then, again, you add in the assisted suicide stuff,
[26:57] Speaker 6: which we should talk more about because that's just where
[27:00] Speaker 6: it's gone. The statistics that came out the other day
[27:02] Speaker 6: on who's actually using it reminds me of the legalizing
[27:07] Speaker 6: marijuana debate we had in the United States. It's not
[27:10] Speaker 6: turned out anything like people claimed it would all those years.
[27:14] Speaker 6: And the same thing is true of the assisted suicide
[27:17] Speaker 6: in Canada. It is majority not people who have an
[27:23] Speaker 6: illness and want to determine when they get the leak. No,
[27:26] Speaker 6: it's people who are just ain't digging life. That's who's
[27:28] Speaker 6: mostly killing themselves. People under pressure.
[27:31] Speaker 2: Assisted by the government. Right, right.
[27:34] Speaker 5: Yeah, and even Oregon, to Oregon's credit, to the extent
[27:37] Speaker 5: that Oregon deserves any credit. I'm sorry, I shouldn't say that,
[27:41] Speaker 5: because there are a lot.
[27:42] Speaker 2: Of sane, reasonable people in Oregon. They're just outnumbered.
[27:45] Speaker 5: But even they have rolled back some of these Canadian-style
[27:47] Speaker 5: drug laws because they've realized, oh, we thought it would
[27:50] Speaker 5: work out like X, but it's worked out like Y,
[27:53] Speaker 5: Y being unbelievable numbers of deaths of young people in
[27:59] Speaker 5: the streets. And again, you know, and this bears repeating
[28:03] Speaker 5: a lot because I run into people all the time
[28:06] Speaker 5: who have no idea of this. And there's a danger
[28:09] Speaker 5: in doing this, particularly as we've been doing it a
[28:11] Speaker 5: long time. Like earlier, Jack, I dove right into the
[28:15] Speaker 5: James Tallarico stuff in Texas. And Jack jumped in and said,
[28:19] Speaker 5: James Tallarico is running for the Senate in Texas as
[28:21] Speaker 5: a Democrat, blah, blah, blah. Because you forget that not
[28:24] Speaker 5: everybody hears every segment of the show and not everybody's
[28:26] Speaker 5: been listening the whole time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[28:28] Speaker 1: So.
[28:30] Speaker 5: Modern meth is manufactured by the vast, vast majority is
[28:35] Speaker 5: the drug cartels in Mexico.
[28:37] Speaker 2: That's what's on the streets of America.
[28:38] Speaker 5: It's not biker gangs in, you know, the outskirts of Bakersfield, California,
[28:44] Speaker 5: doing up the meth.
[28:45] Speaker 2: It is the Mexican cartels.
[28:48] Speaker 6: It's former high school science teachers who have cancer.
[28:52] Speaker 2: In some cases.
[28:53] Speaker 5: That is true in some cases, yeah. Oh, speaking of suicide,
[28:56] Speaker 5: the young fellow with... Cerebral palsy, is that what.
[28:59] Speaker 2: Yeah. Who killed himself. It's so sad.
[29:02] Speaker 6: The kid from Breaking Bad, from the family.
[29:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:07] Speaker 6: So, do we know anything about that? What do we
[29:09] Speaker 6: know about that, Katie?
[29:10] Speaker 2: I don't know. Have you heard anything?
[29:12] Speaker 6: He was the guy that went around the country and
[29:13] Speaker 6: spoke to other people with various.
[29:15] Speaker 5: Yeah, disability activists.
[29:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, R.J.
[29:17] Speaker 4: Mitt.
[29:17] Speaker 2: Quite an eloquent one.
[29:18] Speaker 5: R.J.
[29:19] Speaker 2: Mitt, I believe, M-I-T-T-E.
[29:20] Speaker 1: He.
[29:23] Speaker 4: Apparently, recently had become the target of a lot of
[29:27] Speaker 4: online bullying. If you go to any of his social media,
[29:30] Speaker 4: as you can see it, it was just a flood
[29:33] Speaker 4: of it. And they were saying that, he could never
[29:35] Speaker 4: do anything as big as Breaking Bad and all of
[29:37] Speaker 4: this stuff.
[29:38] Speaker 6: Well, how old was he when he started on Breaking Bad,
[29:41] Speaker 6: would you guess?
[29:42] Speaker 2: 14?
[29:44] Speaker 6: Because this is what I said to my kids last night,
[29:46] Speaker 6: because my oldest kid who's seen Breaking Bad.
[29:49] Speaker 2: said, oh, you know, and then that's.
[29:51] Speaker 6: Sad no matter what, but I said, he's a child star,
[29:55] Speaker 6: regardless of his ailment. Child stars usually go this direction.
[29:59] Speaker 2: They just do. And I ran through some of the examples.
[30:02] Speaker 5: Yeah. We're talking about this on our, yeah, on our
[30:04] Speaker 5: morning walk that to peak in your teen years and
[30:09] Speaker 5: peak so visibly and not only like not settle down
[30:13] Speaker 5: to a good solid career as a, you know, character
[30:16] Speaker 5: actor or whatever he might do, or, you know, manage
[30:18] Speaker 5: a grocery store in Des Moines or what have you,
[30:21] Speaker 5: often these people have an inability to get much going
[30:25] Speaker 5: at all. And that's incredibly psychically difficult to take.
[30:29] Speaker 6: Combined with the culture you're around as a child and
[30:32] Speaker 6: if you're.
[30:33] Speaker 2: A child star. And then the horrors of social media.
[30:36] Speaker 2: Drags lots of people down.
[30:38] Speaker 6: So if mostly completely healthy, really attractive, talented people who
[30:44] Speaker 6: are child stars end up drug addicts are dead.
[30:46] Speaker 2: Yeah. He's not an outlier. He's in the mainstream.
[30:51] Speaker 5: I interrupted myself with a couple of different tangents, but
[30:54] Speaker 5: to get back to the point, the meth made by
[30:56] Speaker 5: the cartels right now, it's a different chemical formula. It's
[30:58] Speaker 5: much easier and more efficient to make. But the problem
[31:02] Speaker 5: is it causes terrible mental illness problems. It is degenerative.
[31:06] Speaker 2: Is that the right word? To the brain.
[31:08] Speaker 5: It is damaging to the brain in a way that
[31:13] Speaker 5: old meth was not.
[31:15] Speaker 2: And so.
[31:16] Speaker 5: You have these people being eased to death on the pavement,
[31:19] Speaker 5: as Nellie Bowles put it, smoking this new legalized or
[31:23] Speaker 5: we don't crack down on it meth, but it's creating
[31:26] Speaker 5: all the mentally ill drug zombies on the street. It's
[31:29] Speaker 5: not that being on the street has made them crazy. No,
[31:31] Speaker 5: it's the frigging meth. And what is our policy? The
[31:35] Speaker 5: worst thing in the world you could do to these
[31:37] Speaker 5: people is let them have it.
[31:38] Speaker 6: And what is our policy for people who've destroyed their
[31:41] Speaker 6: brains and no longer have the option of being a
[31:44] Speaker 6: productive member of society? Let them hang out and steal
[31:48] Speaker 6: stuff and threaten my life? Or die on the sidewalk
[31:51] Speaker 6: if you're compassionate? That seems like a bad road to
[31:54] Speaker 6: go down. Either one of those.
[31:57] Speaker 2: Progressivism is a mental disorder. It ignores reality. We'll finish
[32:01] Speaker 2: strong next. Armstrong and Getty.
[32:08] Speaker 7: Also, I haven't been to the gym in so long,
[32:10] Speaker 7: I didn't know women just dress like whores now.
[32:14] Speaker 2: Look, I'm sorry.
[32:15] Speaker 7: There's no other way to describe. I say, have you
[32:17] Speaker 7: seen it? I've seen it.
[32:18] Speaker 2: The shorts. Have you seen the shorts? There's neon.
[32:22] Speaker 7: They're like the only they're like artificial bait colored.
[32:26] Speaker 2: Wrinkles. And don't look.
[32:28] Speaker 7: You're not allowed to look. For real, don't look because
[32:31] Speaker 7: they are filming. I'm I'm in the background of like
[32:33] Speaker 7: 10 TikToks right now.
[32:37] Speaker 6: So play that again, because two reasons. One, it is
[32:40] Speaker 6: now had combined something like eight million views. which is
[32:44] Speaker 6: about the number Saturday Night Live ever gets for its
[32:47] Speaker 6: biggest episodes, all combined, over weeks or months. And so
[32:52] Speaker 6: the attention's probably working for both Shane Gillis and Saturday
[32:55] Speaker 6: Night Live. But the controversy continues as I was looking
[32:58] Speaker 6: up at the view, and they said, women across the
[33:02] Speaker 6: country continue to be incensed at the vile monologue Shane
[33:06] Speaker 6: Gillis presented on Saturday Night Live.
[33:09] Speaker 2: And then they had a bunch of women.
[33:12] Speaker 6: In workout clothes talking about, you have no idea how
[33:14] Speaker 6: hard I work at the gym.
[33:16] Speaker 2: Like, that is a refutation. Yeah, you're working hard while
[33:19] Speaker 2: dressed like a whore, yes. Here's your host for Final Thoughts,
[33:25] Speaker 2: Joe Getty.
[33:26] Speaker 5: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
[33:28] Speaker 5: to wrap things up for the day. Let's begin with
[33:30] Speaker 5: Michelangelo in the control room. Michael, what's your final thought?
[33:32] Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on.
[33:33] Speaker 4: But Brett Baer is interviewing Marco Rubio this afternoon, who's
[33:36] Speaker 4: claiming he saw Bigfoot.
[33:39] Speaker 5: A reference to a segment a couple of hours ago
[33:42] Speaker 5: in the show. Hope somebody enjoyed that. Katie Green, our
[33:44] Speaker 5: esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie?
[33:47] Speaker 4: I'm thinking that SNL is going to have a field
[33:49] Speaker 4: day with that boozy candidate, Jamie West.
[33:51] Speaker 2: Oh, wow. You might be right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[33:55] Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Ah! Ah!
[33:57] Speaker 5: Ah!
[33:59] Speaker 6: Jack, a final thought for us. What's her trajectory? I
[34:02] Speaker 6: feel like I should get a hold of her an agent.
[34:04] Speaker 6: Is she going to be on Dancing with the Stars?
[34:06] Speaker 6: Is she going to do a cameo on Saturday Night
[34:08] Speaker 6: Live or Jimmy Fallon tonight or something? There's got to
[34:11] Speaker 6: be a way to take advantage of this publicity.
[34:14] Speaker 2: She's hot to a girl.
[34:16] Speaker 5: She's got a brief but lucrative future in front of her.
[34:20] Speaker 5: T-shirts of her leaning back in her chair with the caption.
[34:22] Speaker 2: How about at your bar? You know, you have her
[34:25] Speaker 2: show up at the bar.
[34:26] Speaker 6: She can be at the bar Friday night drinking shots
[34:28] Speaker 6: with the guys.
[34:29] Speaker 2: I'd go to that. Heck, I would, too. Yeah. Wow.
[34:34] Speaker 2: Is there a word? Here's my final thought. It's a question.
[34:36] Speaker 5: Is there a word for the permanently aggrieved to just
[34:40] Speaker 5: go from thing to thing to thing to.
[34:42] Speaker 2: Pretend to be offended by? Is there a term for that?
[34:44] Speaker 2: We need one. Every term I thought of would get
[34:47] Speaker 2: us in trouble.
[34:48] Speaker 7: Oh, too bad.
[34:48] Speaker 2: About a certain sort of person. Armstrong and Getty wrapping
[34:51] Speaker 2: up another grueling four-hour workday. Say it. Say it. So
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