# Video Vomit Reflex

An episode of [Armstrong & Getty On Demand](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1259438987), 12 Oct 2026, 36 min.

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Hour 1 of A&G features... • Columbus Day, Russia/Ukraine war & Trump's deal • Katie Green's Headlines! • The New Dark Ages: The End of Reading and the Dawn of a Post-Literate Society • Mailbag! Stupid Should Hurt: https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
[0:05] Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong
[0:10] Speaker 1: and Getty.
[0:11] Speaker 2: And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.
[0:21] Speaker 1: You've got to love the traffic today. I'm so happy
[0:23] Speaker 1: the Europeans came and kicked all the Native Americans off
[0:27] Speaker 1: their land. Because the traffic is fantastic today. We should
[0:30] Speaker 1: do the next Monday, we should have off for us
[0:33] Speaker 1: taking the president of Argentina. And then like the first
[0:36] Speaker 1: Monday in November, maybe when England went down, let the
[0:39] Speaker 1: Boers know what time it was. Jake, that's a day off.
[0:45] Speaker 1: Lots of those. Wow. You're militant, but I can't tell
[0:48] Speaker 1: in what direction. Rebel without a cause. Live from Studio C. C, senior.
[0:56] Speaker 1: A dimly lit room with something or other. And we're here.
[0:59] Speaker 1: We are working on Columbus Day. Yes, we are. We're saying,
[1:03] Speaker 1: take that. Who are we against here? Queen Isabella, bitch.
[1:07] Speaker 1: And today we're toiling under the title of the show.
[1:10] Speaker 1: Trump and Putin sitting in a tree. T-R-A-D-I-N-G. Or if
[1:15] Speaker 1: you prefer... Unrest in Middle East celebrates its 5,000th birthday.
[1:23] Speaker 1: Quickly back to Columbus Day while I brought it up.
[1:26] Speaker 1: I got one kid in high school who has the
[1:28] Speaker 1: day off because their school celebrates it as Indigenous Peoples Day.
[1:33] Speaker 1: And that has to be it. You can't go to
[1:35] Speaker 1: school on Indigenous Peoples Day or you don't respect the
[1:37] Speaker 1: Indigenous Peoples. You might as well build a Walmart on
[1:40] Speaker 1: their burial grounds. And then my other kids in a
[1:43] Speaker 1: different school where they'd They call it Columbus Day, but
[1:45] Speaker 1: they're in school, which I feel like when we were kids,
[1:48] Speaker 1: we went to school on Columbus Day, didn't we? I
[1:52] Speaker 1: don't think so. I feel like I remember always being
[1:54] Speaker 1: in school on Columbus Day and talking about it. It
[1:57] Speaker 1: depends on the state of the teachers' unions at the time,
[1:59] Speaker 1: I think. That's the driving force these days in school. Absolutely.
[2:03] Speaker 1: But in California, it's officially a government holiday, but it's
[2:08] Speaker 1: Indigenous People's Day. I don't know how many places around
[2:10] Speaker 1: the country are like that. Pretty good handful.
[2:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:13] Speaker 1: Last I heard, but I couldn't tell you the number.
[2:15] Speaker 1: All right. It was dumb before, and it's dumb now.
[2:17] Speaker 1: It's all dumb. So much dumbness. All just dumb.
[2:21] Speaker 2: Yes.
[2:23] Speaker 1: More on that later, I guess. So your first title
[2:27] Speaker 1: there was about the whole, we're buying oil from Russia now? Yes, indeed.
[2:31] Speaker 2: We've exempted Russia from the very sanctions that were just
[2:34] Speaker 2: signed into being the great Lindsey Graham project that we've
[2:38] Speaker 2: talked about in the past. Trump has exempted Russia so
[2:42] Speaker 2: that we can buy barrels of diesel, theoretically to drop
[2:47] Speaker 2: the price.
[2:48] Speaker 1: Before the midterms.
[2:49] Speaker 2: Desperate plea to get that across the line, but Russia
[2:52] Speaker 2: doesn't sell enough oil or diesel, rather, to really move
[2:56] Speaker 2: the needle much at all.
[2:57] Speaker 1: Even if it did. Even if it dropped at a
[2:59] Speaker 1: dollar in a week, it's unconscionable. Well, it's horrific. It's unconscionable.
[3:04] Speaker 2: We are financing now and continuing Putin's war effort against Ukraine.
[3:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[3:10] Speaker 4: Right.
[3:11] Speaker 1: Right. And Trump blaming Zelensky all weekend long for the
[3:15] Speaker 1: price of oil.
[3:16] Speaker 4: Right.
[3:16] Speaker 1: Because Zelensky keeps attacking Russia's oil. You know why Zelensky
[3:19] Speaker 1: keeps attacking Russia's oil? Because Russia attacked them. And if
[3:22] Speaker 1: they don't win the war, they're all going to die
[3:25] Speaker 1: or be enslaved. That's what they're doing is they're trying
[3:27] Speaker 1: to win the war. Well, it's worse than that because
[3:30] Speaker 1: Russia is helping Iran with targeting information, which means they're
[3:35] Speaker 1: also helping the Houthis with targeting information, so that they
[3:38] Speaker 1: can strike at the Saudis and other oil facilities in
[3:41] Speaker 1: the Middle East, which are jacking up the price. But
[3:43] Speaker 1: we're not hearing the president griping about that. No, we
[3:46] Speaker 1: just hear bitching about Zelensky. All right. So if you
[3:49] Speaker 1: weren't following the story over the weekend, Trump announced on
[3:53] Speaker 1: Truth Social that there was a deal between... Russia and
[3:59] Speaker 1: Ukraine for a halt in attacking each other's energy infrastructure.
[4:04] Speaker 1: We have reached a deal. Both sides have agreed to
[4:06] Speaker 1: which Zelensky said, what? I haven't heard about this at all.
[4:10] Speaker 1: If it's true, sure.
[4:11] Speaker 2: Russia responded by bombing oil facilities and Russia responded by
[4:15] Speaker 2: bombing energy facilities all weekend long, including like.
[4:18] Speaker 1: An hour ago.
[4:19] Speaker 2: Yes.
[4:20] Speaker 1: Paying no attention to what's over. When they weren't bombing
[4:22] Speaker 1: bus stations and apartment buildings. Man, I saw the video
[4:26] Speaker 1: of that bus that got hit and all the dead
[4:28] Speaker 1: bodies laying around and everything like that. Pretty horrific. And
[4:31] Speaker 1: Zelensky got lectured over the weekend and Trump said they
[4:34] Speaker 1: need to get a new president because he's standing in
[4:36] Speaker 1: the way of world peace. Zelensky is. Not Putin. Zelensky is. Right. Right.
[4:45] Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do with that story.
[4:46] Speaker 2: Stop getting invaded. You're ruining everything. Yeah, no, I'm horrified
[4:51] Speaker 2: by it.
[4:51] Speaker 1: Horrified. Well, anyway, baseball playoffs are going on. Very exciting.
[4:58] Speaker 1: So then Saudi Arabia's airport got bombed pretty hard. I tried, yes.
[5:02] Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw the videos of that.
[5:04] Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, Riyadh is a big city. It looks like
[5:08] Speaker 1: any big city in America. I mean, it's just, you know,
[5:10] Speaker 1: it's a modern city. It was a modern airport. Video
[5:12] Speaker 1: from inside the airport could have been, you know, Cleveland
[5:15] Speaker 1: Airport or Burbank or wherever. Then all of a sudden,
[5:18] Speaker 1: bombs hit. People are scurrying. Bodies laying around. And I
[5:23] Speaker 1: assume Saudi Arabia is not going to put up with that. No,
[5:26] Speaker 1: but they have limited recourse.
[5:28] Speaker 2: I mean, they fought the hell out of the Houthis
[5:30] Speaker 2: there for a while back in, I don't know, seven,
[5:32] Speaker 2: eight years ago.
[5:34] Speaker 1: Bloody, terrible, famine, etc. They could go back to that,
[5:37] Speaker 1: but it was pretty costly for MSB because he's trying
[5:40] Speaker 1: to turn his country into a modern economy, trade, tourism, etc.
[5:44] Speaker 1: And this is A miserable setback for him.
[5:47] Speaker 2: And the Houthis, Jack, it's worth mentioning, are driven by
[5:50] Speaker 2: Islamist fundamentalism. So it's not like you can cut a
[5:53] Speaker 2: deal with them, unless it's to give them a big
[5:56] Speaker 2: old chunk of a caliphate, and they'll, like Hamas, pretend
[5:59] Speaker 2: to be content until the moment they can attack again.
[6:02] Speaker 1: Okay. Just want to get those out there, because those
[6:05] Speaker 1: are some really big stories that could lead to who
[6:07] Speaker 1: knows what this week. I would never advocate.
[6:13] Speaker 2: any action by this great country of ours, Jack, that
[6:15] Speaker 2: would result in mass death.
[6:18] Speaker 1: Never. It's unconscionable indeed.
[6:20] Speaker 2: On the other hand, you remember back when, in the
[6:22] Speaker 2: midst of the 9-11, post-9-11 fervor and frenzy and the
[6:27] Speaker 2: war in Iraq, and various folks were advocating, how about
[6:31] Speaker 2: we just nuke the whole region and turn it into
[6:35] Speaker 2: a parking lot? I understand their frustrations. I'll just say that.
[6:42] Speaker 2: But I tell you what, if I live for another
[6:44] Speaker 2: 5,000 years and I'm reading the same headlines, I will
[6:47] Speaker 2: tip my cap to those people and say maybe they
[6:48] Speaker 2: had a point.
[6:49] Speaker 1: But again, the loss of life would be terrible. Katie,
[6:53] Speaker 1: this is your son's first Columbus Day. It's very exciting.
[6:56] Speaker 2: It is.
[6:56] Speaker 1: And he's five months old today. You have him dressed
[7:00] Speaker 1: as an Indian being told to get off his land
[7:04] Speaker 1: or a little European explorer? No, he's dressed as the Indian.
[7:09] Speaker 1: Get out of here. What? Covered him up with a
[7:11] Speaker 1: little smallpox-infested blanket. It's ours now. Get. You know it.
[7:15] Speaker 1: You should see him. He's running wild. Oh, my God.
[7:21] Speaker 4: Hey.
[7:22] Speaker 1: Oh, geez.
[7:24] Speaker 2: Well, it's very similar in that he discovered your house
[7:27] Speaker 2: when you brought him home from the hospital, and now
[7:29] Speaker 2: he runs the place.
[7:30] Speaker 1: Am I wrong? You're bringing it all the way back around.
[7:33] Speaker 1: There you go. Is it a company holiday, Hanson? Are
[7:38] Speaker 1: we working on a company holiday? You don't know? I
[7:40] Speaker 1: don't know either. It might be. And do we call
[7:43] Speaker 1: it Columbus Day or do we call it Indigenous Peoples Day?
[7:45] Speaker 1: There aren't enough employees left to tell. Oh! I don't know.
[7:51] Speaker 1: Who cares? The whole thing is so silly. What is
[7:55] Speaker 1: the theory behind Indigenous Peoples Day?
[7:58] Speaker 2: Well, that Columbus was a genocidal colonial settler monster. who
[8:04] Speaker 2: displaced the people and brought on the great European Holocaust
[8:08] Speaker 2: of the New World, blah, blah, blah. And so you
[8:10] Speaker 2: can't possibly celebrate him.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Well, I get that. I get how we got here. Well, right.
[8:16] Speaker 1: But then you've got to do the opposite as a,
[8:19] Speaker 1: you know, a third world or, you know, a up
[8:21] Speaker 1: with the native peoples type. You got to say, you
[8:24] Speaker 1: know what, let's do the opposite. Let's celebrate the people
[8:27] Speaker 1: he displaced. That's as simple as that. Yeah, I understand.
[8:30] Speaker 1: So we got her. But what do you do? Like,
[8:32] Speaker 1: do you have a parade or a speech? I don't know.
[8:37] Speaker 1: Eat a little maize? I don't know. Do a land acknowledgement?
[8:41] Speaker 1: Talk about Buffalo, how they used every part. I don't know.
[8:44] Speaker 1: And then, as always, are we celebrating the people that
[8:48] Speaker 1: were here in.
[8:52] Speaker 1: I don't know when it became a state or when
[8:55] Speaker 1: the United States became a country or when Columbus landed
[8:58] Speaker 1: or the people that were here 100 years before that.
[9:01] Speaker 1: They were displaced by different people. No, no, no. It's
[9:04] Speaker 1: just the people, the white people displaced.
[9:06] Speaker 2: The people before that can go to hell, killing the
[9:09] Speaker 2: hell out of each other for thousands of years. Now,
[9:11] Speaker 2: that's irrelevant. Tens of thousands of years. Yeah, that's irrelevant
[9:14] Speaker 2: to getting Marxism going. They need the narrative of victimhood
[9:18] Speaker 2: and oppression. That's all they want.
[9:19] Speaker 1: That's all this is all. Any of this, that's all
[9:22] Speaker 1: it's about. This land has changed hands. We don't know
[9:26] Speaker 1: how many times because there are no written records, but
[9:28] Speaker 1: it would have to be hundreds of times.
[9:31] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[9:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. Over the years. You take an individual 10-acre parcel? Sure. Dozens, hundreds,
[9:37] Speaker 1: who knows? Great deal of blood. Enslavement.
[9:41] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:42] Speaker 1: Oh, enslavement, please. Even the slaves had slaves. I mean, sure.
[9:47] Speaker 2: Yeah. But you've got to pretend otherwise to to push
[9:50] Speaker 2: the narrative that the current thing is evil and must
[9:53] Speaker 2: be overthrown.
[9:54] Speaker 1: On the other hand, That's what all of this is.
[9:56] Speaker 1: I gotta admit, as a little kid, I was taught...
[9:59] Speaker 1: How about Columbus Day? Like Columbus got here and either
[10:03] Speaker 1: the country was empty or there were like five Indians
[10:05] Speaker 1: and they were happy to see people come take the
[10:07] Speaker 1: land here. They were lonely. Sure. Cool. And you start
[10:11] Speaker 1: farming our land. Well, I'd love that.
[10:13] Speaker 4: Wow.
[10:13] Speaker 2: You have totally different customs, totally different language. Your culture
[10:17] Speaker 2: is enormously different. Heck, even your immune system is different.
[10:20] Speaker 1: Come on in. Only a fool would say that.
[10:23] Speaker 3: Oh.
[10:26] Speaker 1: Like, there's even pictures in my school books of Indians, like,
[10:28] Speaker 1: standing on the beach waving, like, big smiles on their face. Like, hey.
[10:34] Speaker 1: What happens? Sure. Fantastic. It's all just happy, happy, joy, joy.
[10:40] Speaker 1: It's good for everyone. I don't know. I don't know
[10:43] Speaker 1: why we did that either. Now we're going the other
[10:47] Speaker 1: direction too far. Well, they had to have pictures, right?
[10:50] Speaker 1: It's history books for kids. And so, you know, and
[10:53] Speaker 1: the pictures were friendly. They were child-friendly. There were greetings.
[10:58] Speaker 1: There were waves. Hey, look at those boats out there. Hey,
[11:01] Speaker 1: I wonder if they're coming ashore. Oh, this will be exciting.
[11:03] Speaker 4: Sure.
[11:05] Speaker 1: Oh, this will be exciting. Let's start the show officially.
[11:07] Speaker 1: We've got to get to headlines and stuff. I do
[11:09] Speaker 1: have a question about European exploration. We'll get to it later.
[11:12] Speaker 1: I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. On this, it is Monday,
[11:15] Speaker 1: October 12th, known as Columbus Day or Indigenous People Day
[11:18] Speaker 1: of the Year 2026.
[11:18] Speaker 2: We're Armstrong and Getty, and we approve of this program.
[11:21] Speaker 2: Many years ago, I saw a political cartoon of the
[11:24] Speaker 2: Indians waving to the boats, and one of the Indians
[11:26] Speaker 2: says to the other one, I guess we'll welcome them,
[11:28] Speaker 2: but I have reservations.
[11:30] Speaker 1: Hey! Oh, I get it. I get it. Oh, no. Oh, golly.
[11:35] Speaker 1: All right, here's the beginning of the show. Officially, according
[11:37] Speaker 1: to FCC rules and regs, here we go. At Mark.
[11:39] Speaker 3: Monday is Indigenous Peoples Day and Columbus Day, which is
[11:43] Speaker 3: like if Easter was also National Nails Day.
[11:46] Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Oh, my. Too much. Too much. Too much. Katie,
[11:57] Speaker 1: how does headlines look? Give it a grade, A to F.
[12:00] Speaker 1: We're going to go sold, A minus.
[12:02] Speaker 2: Oh, cool.
[12:02] Speaker 1: Wow.
[12:03] Speaker 2: Excellent.
[12:03] Speaker 1: Of course, with great inflation, it might be a C.
[12:05] Speaker 1: It's hard to say. Everybody passes. Exactly. But we'll get
[12:09] Speaker 1: to headlines and more deep dives into the news coming up.
[12:12] Speaker 1: Stay here. Armstrong and Getty. I want to get into
[12:18] Speaker 1: this story later. There's a book out about this. We
[12:21] Speaker 1: think we talked about it already. But anyway, we're getting dumber.
[12:24] Speaker 1: We are getting dumber, mostly because of staring at our phones.
[12:27] Speaker 1: But there's all kinds of stats around how we're getting dumber.
[12:30] Speaker 1: And it's interesting. Better read that book quick while I
[12:32] Speaker 1: can still comprehend it.
[12:34] Speaker 3: Right.
[12:35] Speaker 1: Hey, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead
[12:38] Speaker 1: story with Katie Green. Katie, hit it. All right, top
[12:40] Speaker 1: of the alphabet networks.
[12:41] Speaker 4: It's Iran. At least 20 killed in week of attacks
[12:45] Speaker 4: on Saudi airports. That's coming from ABC. Fox hooties threaten
[12:49] Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia's airspace after airport attack. And we also have
[12:55] Speaker 4: Saudi airport struck again a day after deadly attack in
[12:59] Speaker 4: deadliest day.
[13:00] Speaker 1: This could go any direction and turn into anything.
[13:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got that scholarly piece which I've read and
[13:07] Speaker 2: comprehended most of about how the Middle East is going
[13:10] Speaker 2: to change shape fundamentally. Because all the old alliances are gone,
[13:14] Speaker 2: the old assumptions are gone, and where it ends, nobody knows.
[13:17] Speaker 1: Oh, goody.
[13:19] Speaker 4: For Maxios, Trump bears down on Zelensky as Russia keeps up.
[13:24] Speaker 1: Attacks on Ukraine. Yeah, including very recently, I was just
[13:28] Speaker 1: looking at some of the news, and Zelensky made the announcement, hey,
[13:33] Speaker 1: Russia's still striking our energy facilities, just letting you know.
[13:36] Speaker 1: And look, if.
[13:37] Speaker 2: You have a pushback on this, weigh in, mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com.
[13:42] Speaker 2: But Trump is saying, hey, you've got to let yourself
[13:44] Speaker 2: be defeated, so gas prices come down a little bit
[13:47] Speaker 2: in time for the midterms.
[13:51] Speaker 1: CBS News.
[13:53] Speaker 4: Secret Service's deputy head said drone swarms are a, quote,
[13:57] Speaker 4: huge problem that the agency has not solved yet.
[14:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lead story on 60 Minutes last night.
[14:03] Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. Pretty darn interesting.
[14:08] Speaker 4: From The Wall Street Journal, the welfare state is crushing Britain.
[14:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all over that one. A couple of related stories.
[14:16] Speaker 2: It is the world's most predictable disaster, and it happens everywhere.
[14:21] Speaker 2: They implement the system that the left in America is
[14:24] Speaker 2: demanding we implement here.
[14:26] Speaker 1: It's math. Yeah, it's math. From The Washington Post.
[14:32] Speaker 4: Substitute teacher fired over OnlyFans account says business is booming.
[14:38] Speaker 1: This always happens. Yeah. They figured it out. Hot, hot
[14:42] Speaker 1: women who are willing to do this have figured out
[14:43] Speaker 1: if they get fired as a stewardess or a teacher
[14:46] Speaker 1: or whatever for their OnlyFans account, it gets the news
[14:49] Speaker 1: and attention and they make more money.
[14:51] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. New York Post will run some softcore shots of them,
[14:55] Speaker 2: and they'll make even more money having already decided to
[14:58] Speaker 2: move on in their lives.
[14:59] Speaker 1: And you dudes that apparently have unlimited time and desire
[15:02] Speaker 1: for looking at naked chicks online will check that out. Well,
[15:06] Speaker 1: for me, it's a civil liberties issue. That's why I
[15:09] Speaker 1: read those articles.
[15:10] Speaker 2: It's unfair that these poor women are fired just for
[15:14] Speaker 2: expressing themselves nakedly.
[15:18] Speaker 1: Speaking of the New York Post.
[15:20] Speaker 4: Whizzing college professor pees on student's backpack found to be
[15:25] Speaker 4: campus mystery cereal sprinkler.
[15:28] Speaker 1: Wow.
[15:29] Speaker 2: This guy's thing was he would pee on student's backpacks.
[15:33] Speaker 1: That's not weird. You know, looking at his picture, he
[15:35] Speaker 1: looks like he would pee on backpacks. He looks like
[15:36] Speaker 1: the kind of guy who would randomly, secretly pee on backpacks.
[15:39] Speaker 1: Backpack beer. All day long. Oh, my God. Sick. Study
[15:44] Speaker 1: finds adults.
[15:46] Speaker 4: With ADHD struggle more to stop watching short videos.
[15:51] Speaker 1: Huh. I didn't think about that one. That's interesting. And finally,
[15:57] Speaker 1: the Babylon Bee.
[15:59] Speaker 4: Pentagon confirms Hassan execution to be hosted by Ryan Seacrest.
[16:06] Speaker 1: The thing I need to fully internalize about looking at
[16:11] Speaker 1: reels on YouTube or wherever I'm looking at short videos
[16:14] Speaker 1: is they are good. But there's endless good ones. I'll
[16:19] Speaker 1: get one and I'll think, well, this is really good.
[16:20] Speaker 1: This is something I'm really going to enjoy. This is
[16:23] Speaker 1: entertainment I like. Yeah, but there's 8 million of those.
[16:28] Speaker 1: It's not wasting my time on stuff that's not entertaining.
[16:30] Speaker 1: It is entertaining. It's really good.
[16:33] Speaker 2: But it's like eating until you vomit at a buffet
[16:35] Speaker 2: that has really good food. Science needs to invent the
[16:39] Speaker 2: video vomit reflex where you've taken in too much.
[16:44] Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.
[16:47] Speaker 3: The two oldest men alive who turned 114 and 113
[16:51] Speaker 3: years old share the exact same birthday. And they shared
[16:54] Speaker 3: a little high five, killing them both.
[17:00] Speaker 1: My son and I laughed hard at that. I don't
[17:02] Speaker 1: know if that makes us bad people.
[17:04] Speaker 2: Yes.
[17:05] Speaker 1: Shocking, shocking joke. I laughed out of shock and horror. Yes, exactly.
[17:09] Speaker 1: We talked about this book a while back. This guy
[17:12] Speaker 1: named James Marriott, he wrote a book called The New
[17:14] Speaker 1: Dark Ages. Yes. The Death of Reading and the Dawn
[17:18] Speaker 1: of the Post-Literate Society. And we talked a little bit
[17:20] Speaker 1: about that when the book came out a while back.
[17:22] Speaker 1: It's interesting. And some of the stats around it are horrifying.
[17:26] Speaker 1: And those of us who still read long form, we're
[17:29] Speaker 1: a dying breed. Nobody's going to be doing that in
[17:31] Speaker 1: the future. And I don't know if they'll stop printing
[17:34] Speaker 1: all those books. And bookstores will go away. Except for
[17:38] Speaker 1: self-help books and quickie political books. Those are the only
[17:41] Speaker 1: things that sell. Like really shallow, quickie political books and
[17:47] Speaker 1: some sort of self-help or diet books. Those are the
[17:49] Speaker 1: only things I currently sell, which ain't good. But here
[17:53] Speaker 1: are some of the stats around this broken down in
[17:55] Speaker 1: this opinion piece by the author in the Washington Post.
[17:59] Speaker 1: Because it's expanding. It's not just reading. It's movies. It's TV.
[18:02] Speaker 1: It's all kinds of different things. In a world of
[18:04] Speaker 1: constant distraction, script writers can no longer rely on audiences
[18:10] Speaker 1: to pay attention. Executives at Netflix have reportedly demanded simpler
[18:15] Speaker 1: scripts in which characters repeatedly announce what they're doing so
[18:20] Speaker 1: that scrolling viewers can keep track of what's going on. Oh, my.
[18:26] Speaker 1: I know. Wow. I know. That is such a gentle
[18:32] Speaker 1: yet devastating description. We've talked about, like, your daughter, my
[18:36] Speaker 1: son does this, where they have their phones open while
[18:39] Speaker 1: they're watching TV. So Netflix has picked up on that.
[18:43] Speaker 1: People are doing the two-screen experience, so our characters have
[18:47] Speaker 1: to repeatedly reset what they're doing.
[18:51] Speaker 2: Are you ready to go in and rob the bank
[18:53] Speaker 2: to get money to finance our guerrilla group now? Yes,
[18:56] Speaker 2: I'm ready, El Comandante, and to help you avenge your
[19:00] Speaker 2: father who was killed earlier.
[19:01] Speaker 1: Right.
[19:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[19:04] Speaker 1: Oh, boy. Right. According to Matt Damon.
[19:08] Speaker 2: At least every husband on earth will probably not have
[19:11] Speaker 2: to answer the, why is he doing that question?
[19:14] Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what we're supposed to find out.
[19:17] Speaker 1: I used to ask that as a kid. My dad
[19:18] Speaker 1: would get so upset with that. How about we watch
[19:21] Speaker 1: and find out? Wondering is part of the entertainment. Nevermind.
[19:29] Speaker 1: According to actor Matt Damon, filmmakers are told it wouldn't
[19:32] Speaker 1: be terrible if you reiterated the plot three or four
[19:35] Speaker 1: times in the dialogue because people are on their phones
[19:38] Speaker 1: while they're watching. Oh, no. The result is the inverse
[19:42] Speaker 1: of the traditional creative writing advice of show, don't tell.
[19:45] Speaker 1: It is hard to sustain interiority or nuance in a
[19:48] Speaker 1: film in which every action must be clearly signed post. Oh,
[19:52] Speaker 1: my God. I mean, that's the opposite of what, like,
[19:55] Speaker 1: really great literature or writing has always done. It's always
[20:00] Speaker 1: like unfolded and it dawns on you, you know, maybe
[20:03] Speaker 1: several hours in or maybe even after you read the
[20:06] Speaker 1: book or watch the movie. Oh, my God.
[20:08] Speaker 2: You can see she's turning away from him because she
[20:11] Speaker 2: still loves her husband who died in the war.
[20:14] Speaker 1: Oh, God.
[20:15] Speaker 2: Right.
[20:15] Speaker 1: It's heavy. It's powerful. I must turn away from you
[20:18] Speaker 1: now for I still love my husband who, as you
[20:21] Speaker 1: may recall, died in the war, as I explained in
[20:23] Speaker 1: an earlier scene. Well, if it must be that way.
[20:27] Speaker 1: Maybe have the dead husband step into the scene. Remember me?
[20:30] Speaker 1: Remember me? I was in a flashback. In fact, you'd
[20:35] Speaker 1: have to pan to the picture on her dresser. Oh, right.
[20:40] Speaker 1: The dead husband.
[20:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[20:41] Speaker 1: With the beard.
[20:41] Speaker 2: Right.
[20:42] Speaker 1: Okay.
[20:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[20:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Lord. The fact that Netflix is actually telling
[20:46] Speaker 1: people that. The characters have to restate what they're doing.
[20:49] Speaker 1: It's just, oh, my God. The same relentless pressures towards
[20:53] Speaker 1: simplification are at work in almost every creative industry. A
[20:57] Speaker 1: 2024 statistical analysis of more than 350,000 songs between 1970
[21:02] Speaker 1: and the 2020s found that lyrics are becoming simpler, more repetitive,
[21:07] Speaker 1: and less rich in their vocabulary. Shorter words. Another study
[21:12] Speaker 1: suggests that melodies are becoming less complex, too. We're just
[21:17] Speaker 1: getting dumber all the way around. Equally striking is what
[21:19] Speaker 1: is happening in the publishing industry. Books are getting simpler
[21:22] Speaker 1: and easier to read. An economist analysis of New York
[21:25] Speaker 1: Times bestselling books from the 1930s till now, so basically
[21:29] Speaker 1: the last hundred years, found that sentences in popular books
[21:33] Speaker 1: have been contracted by almost a third since the 1930s.
[21:37] Speaker 1: Long sentences are not easy to grapple with in an
[21:40] Speaker 1: age when, according to one estimate, the average American checks
[21:42] Speaker 1: his or her smartphone 186 times per day. That's the average. Wow.
[21:49] Speaker 1: The audiences for serious nonfiction and literary fiction have declined steeply.
[21:52] Speaker 1: Sales of books about economics, current affairs, and politics also
[21:55] Speaker 1: fallen off. What I said was... You know, really simple,
[22:00] Speaker 1: short politics were for you if you're a liberal sort
[22:04] Speaker 1: of books or were for you if you like Trump
[22:06] Speaker 1: headlines with really nothing on the inside. And then like diets,
[22:10] Speaker 1: that's pretty much the only thing. Got one, a couple
[22:14] Speaker 1: more examples that we can tell you about after this. Frankly,
[22:17] Speaker 1: my dear, I don't give a damn because of the
[22:19] Speaker 1: many times you've manipulated me and how our relationship seems
[22:23] Speaker 1: to be serving you and not me as much as
[22:25] Speaker 1: outlined in the earlier incident. You remember when the rebel
[22:27] Speaker 1: army was going by?
[22:29] Speaker 2: Yes.
[22:29] Speaker 1: So anyway, I don't give a damn. You may or
[22:33] Speaker 1: may not recall.
[22:35] Speaker 2: Well, Rhett Butler should have had SimpliSafe to protect the
[22:38] Speaker 2: old plantation.
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[23:41] Speaker 1: So us getting dumber and having shorter attention spans is
[23:44] Speaker 1: partly to explain why studios are making so many remakes
[23:48] Speaker 1: and franchises and extended universes. Before the turn of the millennium,
[23:54] Speaker 1: only about 25% of top grossing films were spinoffs or sequels,
[23:55] Speaker 1: and now it's 75%. 75% of movies are spinoffs or sequels.
[23:57] Speaker 1: Because it's just.
[24:06] Speaker 1: The idea of a new story is just too much
[24:08] Speaker 1: for me. The story, I already know the characters. Maybe
[24:12] Speaker 1: a slight tweak of what's going on. Right, right. Back
[24:16] Speaker 1: catalog songs now make up more than 70% of the
[24:19] Speaker 1: music market. Stuff from the olden times, driven by young
[24:22] Speaker 1: consumers who increasingly listen to the familiar music of their
[24:25] Speaker 1: parents and grandparents, as opposed to new stuff, for whatever reason.
[24:31] Speaker 1: I guess, again, because it's something you've heard before. Right, right.
[24:35] Speaker 2: Well, that reminds me, you want to hear a charming story?
[24:38] Speaker 2: So I'm playing golf with a fellow yesterday and his
[24:42] Speaker 2: wife's dad was an attorney and he was a young attorney.
[24:44] Speaker 2: He's working in Detroit for one of your big law firms,
[24:47] Speaker 2: Bill and Kill, they call it, where you just work
[24:49] Speaker 2: in enormous long hours and you're busting your ass and
[24:52] Speaker 2: you don't see your young family and stuff like that.
[24:54] Speaker 2: And one of his neighbors came up to him and said, Dave,
[24:58] Speaker 2: it's not his name, but Dave, you're an attorney. I
[25:01] Speaker 2: need you to do me a favor. I need you
[25:03] Speaker 2: to go to New York and negotiate a contract for me.
[25:05] Speaker 2: And Dave's like, dude, I can't take any time off.
[25:08] Speaker 2: I'm too busy. I'd love to help you.
[25:10] Speaker 1: Why me? I've never done that.
[25:12] Speaker 2: And his buddy says, well, we're friends.
[25:15] Speaker 1: I know I can trust you. You're smart.
[25:16] Speaker 2: I'll bet you can do it. But I need you
[25:18] Speaker 2: to do it tomorrow. And Dave's like, now there's no,
[25:21] Speaker 2: I can't get tomorrow off. So he thinks about it.
[25:24] Speaker 2: He sleeps on it. He wakes up in the morning.
[25:27] Speaker 1: He quits his job, his big job, and goes to
[25:30] Speaker 1: New York for his buddy to negotiate the contract. Buddy
[25:34] Speaker 1: Bob Seger. And he worked with him for 50 years. Wow. Yeah.
[25:39] Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Yeah.
[25:42] Speaker 2: And for what it's worth, speaking of old-timey music, Bob
[25:45] Speaker 2: is every bit the decent, Midwestern, everyman, regular guy that
[25:50] Speaker 2: he comes off as.
[25:51] Speaker 1: I thought that story was amazing.
[25:52] Speaker 2: Guy saw Crossroads in his life and thought, I'm going
[25:55] Speaker 2: to give it a chance. Story could have ended, you know,
[26:00] Speaker 2: that guy's name, Albert McGinney. He was dropped from the
[26:03] Speaker 2: label three weeks later.
[26:05] Speaker 1: Right. Yes. Right. Biggest mistake of his life. And that's
[26:07] Speaker 1: the point of it up on the streets. Divorced. And
[26:09] Speaker 1: that's the point of your story. Don't quit your job
[26:11] Speaker 1: on a whim. That's the point. That's not my point. Oh,
[26:14] Speaker 1: my point is you don't know how it's going to go.
[26:17] Speaker 1: Nobody does. Anyway, to the point of this book and
[26:20] Speaker 1: the stats are just laid out. If it seems like.
[26:24] Speaker 1: They're doing that in movies and TV shows and books
[26:27] Speaker 1: and everything now. They are. And they know what they're doing.
[26:30] Speaker 1: And it's because of this, holding my phone in my hand,
[26:34] Speaker 1: which has pretty much ruined the world, I think.
[26:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, definitely. Two points.
[26:42] Speaker 2: Number one, this trend is going to make people much
[26:47] Speaker 2: more easily.
[26:48] Speaker 1: Manipulated politically than they already are. Of course.
[26:51] Speaker 2: I mean, the simplest of narratives will sway their thinking.
[26:55] Speaker 1: Without a doubt.
[26:56] Speaker 2: Number two, Luke, you know how your father kind of
[27:03] Speaker 2: disappeared and he was a Jedi, but people don't talk
[27:05] Speaker 2: about him much. And, uh, How Leia, you like, feel
[27:08] Speaker 2: a kinship with her, but not a sexual attraction. And,
[27:13] Speaker 2: you know, all of that. So anyway, all of that,
[27:15] Speaker 2: I want to remind you of to bring you to
[27:18] Speaker 2: this thought. I am your father.
[27:25] Speaker 1: Right. The very famous ending of Plan to the Apes.
[27:30] Speaker 1: You know what this is? This is the head of
[27:32] Speaker 1: the Statue of Liberty. Meaning, the only way that could
[27:36] Speaker 1: be is if this is actually Earth, then we're just
[27:38] Speaker 1: in the future, you see. And in the future, apes
[27:44] Speaker 1: are in charge. On our own planet. So, you're still
[27:52] Speaker 1: not getting.
[27:56] Speaker 2: It?
[27:56] Speaker 1: I can't believe the artists of the world, like Matt
[27:58] Speaker 1: Damon or whatever, when they're told, we need you to
[28:01] Speaker 1: have your character reiterate their purpose. Three or four times
[28:05] Speaker 1: per movie. It's going to be so painful. That's so
[28:10] Speaker 1: dang funny. But not surprising to me.
[28:14] Speaker 2: I've learned to communicate paragraphs with a glance. And you
[28:18] Speaker 2: want me to say, I'm leaving you because.
[28:22] Speaker 1: Right. Right. Yeah. Over and over again. Right. Well, I'm
[28:27] Speaker 1: leaving now because of, you know, the argument we had earlier.
[28:30] Speaker 1: That whole thing about your mom? Outside by the car?
[28:33] Speaker 1: That one. Okay, we got mailbag on the way next.
[28:37] Speaker 1: Stay here. Armstrong and Getty. By the way, I mentioned
[28:44] Speaker 1: last week the Nobel Prize for Literature was given out
[28:47] Speaker 1: to this poet from Canada, Anne Carson. I got into
[28:52] Speaker 1: reading some of her stuff over the weekend. Wow, is
[28:54] Speaker 1: she fantastic. So if you like that sort of thing,
[28:56] Speaker 1: you might want to check it out. Well, that's funny
[28:58] Speaker 1: that she'd come out. We'll explain in a moment with Mailbag.
[29:04] Speaker 2: Here's your freedom-loving quote of the day.
[29:15] Speaker 1: Just reset, dang it. Oh, let's see. How about this?
[29:20] Speaker 1: Steve Maraboli from Life, the Truth and Being Free. The
[29:22] Speaker 1: purpose of fear is to raise your awareness, not to
[29:25] Speaker 1: stop your progress. I like that. I like that.
[29:30] Speaker 2: So that my young lawyer friend and Bob Seger, he
[29:33] Speaker 2: had a little bit of fear, but he.
[29:34] Speaker 1: Was, you can't be, stopped by it. The purpose of
[29:39] Speaker 1: fear is to raise your awareness, not to stop your progress.
[29:42] Speaker 1: That's a good thought. Mailbag. Drop us a note.
[29:50] Speaker 2: Mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com. So Jeff came across an example of
[29:55] Speaker 2: the Nobel Prize winning poet for 2026. Comparing it to
[30:03] Speaker 2: the winner from 1907. In 1907, God of our fathers,
[30:10] Speaker 2: known of old, Lord of our four-flower-flung battle line, beneath
[30:14] Speaker 2: whose awful hand we hold dominion over palm and pine,
[30:17] Speaker 2: Lord God of hosts, be with us yet, lest we forget,
[30:20] Speaker 2: lest we forget.
[30:23] Speaker 1: And the modern winner? All kinds of pants went by.
[30:26] Speaker 1: All kinds of pants went by. All kinds of pants
[30:29] Speaker 1: went by. All kinds of pants went by. It repeats
[30:32] Speaker 1: that like 30 times. Trousers, too.
[30:35] Speaker 2: All kinds of pants went by. It repeats it like
[30:37] Speaker 2: 25 more times. Yet the birches linger. Makes you stop
[30:44] Speaker 2: and think.
[30:45] Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you I read some of her
[30:46] Speaker 1: stuff for the weekend and thought it was absolutely magnificent. Yeah, wow.
[30:49] Speaker 2: Interesting.
[30:50] Speaker 1: That was one of her off days, apparently, the pants one.
[30:54] Speaker 1: Speaking of art. Oh, my gosh. Travis has made us
[30:58] Speaker 1: so happy.
[30:59] Speaker 2: There is a new documentary out on Hulu entitled Clown
[31:04] Speaker 2: Panic about the 2016 clowns at the edge of the
[31:07] Speaker 2: woods craze.
[31:10] Speaker 1: Love that.
[31:10] Speaker 2: We're working on getting the audio from the trailer.
[31:13] Speaker 1: Fantastic.
[31:14] Speaker 2: When children in a small South Carolina community reported seeing
[31:18] Speaker 2: clowns hiding in the woods in 2016, few believed them.
[31:22] Speaker 2: But as sightings spread across the country, panic escalates into
[31:25] Speaker 2: school lockdowns, police investigations, and a nationwide media frenzy.
[31:30] Speaker 1: I remember when I was getting emails from the school
[31:31] Speaker 1: about it.
[31:33] Speaker 2: Featuring chilling archive footage. How could there be chilling footage?
[31:37] Speaker 2: Nothing happened. Chilling footage of what? Scared-looking softheads?
[31:43] Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
[31:44] Speaker 2: Clown Panic examines the collision of fear, social media, and
[31:47] Speaker 2: modern America at a moment of deep national anxiety.
[31:49] Speaker 1: That, I believe.
[31:51] Speaker 2: Darkly funny, unsettling, and unexpectedly emotional, the film uncovers how
[31:55] Speaker 2: a bizarre urban legend spiraled into a global moral panic
[31:57] Speaker 2: that has echoes that resonate today. I'll bet that's really interesting.
[32:01] Speaker 2: I've got to check whether I get Hulu at this point.
[32:04] Speaker 1: I don't know. Who knows? Probably. I've probably been paying
[32:07] Speaker 1: for it. $ 7.
[32:07] Speaker 2: 99 a month for the last 68 months having not
[32:09] Speaker 2: watched An iota of the programming.
[32:12] Speaker 1: Probably, yes. Let's see. Kevin, the Texas Marine, munching on crayons,
[32:19] Speaker 1: thanking us for our billionaires are evil argument last week.
[32:25] Speaker 1: And then our discussion, well, he kind of explains it.
[32:28] Speaker 1: The thought that the real.
[32:29] Speaker 2: Problem is the bottom 1% is one that I've held
[32:31] Speaker 2: for many years. I don't have a dash cam to
[32:33] Speaker 2: document the good drivers. I don't lock my doors and
[32:36] Speaker 2: have a home defense firearm because of the honest people.
[32:39] Speaker 2: Been seeing an increase in bums and junkies here lately.
[32:41] Speaker 2: Don't California my Texas. I left California for a reason.
[32:48] Speaker 1: Let's see.
[32:48] Speaker 2: This political thought from D in Southeast Washington has a couple,
[32:52] Speaker 2: but here's one of them.
[32:54] Speaker 1: She quotes Dr.
[32:55] Speaker 2: Michael Savage back in the day, a good friend of
[32:58] Speaker 2: the Armstrong and Getty show. We launched the mighty KNEW
[33:01] Speaker 2: in San Francisco with him in 03, right? Yeah. Anyway,
[33:05] Speaker 2: best wishes to the whole family. But he was talking
[33:07] Speaker 2: about the pebble in the shoe theory. which was something
[33:13] Speaker 2: Plato wrote about back in the day, that the average
[33:15] Speaker 2: Roman did not care about the latest military victory by
[33:17] Speaker 2: the legions. They cared about the pebble in their shoe,
[33:20] Speaker 2: meaning the cost of bread, everyday goods, the day-to-day stuff.
[33:24] Speaker 2: And that's how you win elections. Then D says, by
[33:29] Speaker 2: the way, Jack, describing the internet as the evil net,
[33:31] Speaker 2: that was me, Joe, is spot on. We've known for
[33:38] Speaker 2: 20-plus years that if somebody singles out one of us,
[33:42] Speaker 2: they always mean the other one.
[33:44] Speaker 1: And not half the time, which you'd think statistically be true.
[33:46] Speaker 4: Right.
[33:46] Speaker 1: Always.
[33:47] Speaker 2: You know, it's the overwhelming majority, yeah. And then this
[33:50] Speaker 2: from Russ in Portland.
[33:51] Speaker 1: Do we have time? Yeah, we do.
[33:53] Speaker 2: Portland housing prices. Local news stories regarding declining housing prices.
[33:57] Speaker 2: According to the story, rent prices and even home purchase
[33:59] Speaker 2: prices are declining in Portland. So much that people on
[34:03] Speaker 2: waiting lists for public housing are now just renting regular
[34:05] Speaker 2: apartments because they're cheaper. We mentioned this when the story
[34:08] Speaker 2: came out. And what Russ says, what the story doesn't
[34:11] Speaker 2: go into is why. Here's my hypothesis. No one wants
[34:14] Speaker 2: to live there. People are lowering the asking price of
[34:17] Speaker 2: their homes because they're on the market for years with
[34:19] Speaker 2: no takers. Then they resort to just renting it out. Why?
[34:25] Speaker 1: But everyone with any substantial income already moved out, as
[34:28] Speaker 1: I did. Why might that be?
[34:30] Speaker 2: Could it be because, oh, I don't know, the lack
[34:31] Speaker 2: of law enforcement leading to hobo junkies wandering the streets pantless?
[34:35] Speaker 2: pushing a stolen shopping cart from a store that already
[34:37] Speaker 2: closed and left town full of stolen car parts.
[34:40] Speaker 1: I saw that Tuesday. Or maybe it's the open public masturbation,
[34:43] Speaker 1: public defecation, derelict RVs lining the streets, half-naked people stumbling
[34:47] Speaker 1: into traffic, or all the major companies that left in
[34:50] Speaker 1: the last few years, like Columbia Sportswear, Nike, Starbucks, REI,
[34:54] Speaker 1: on and on. Empty office buildings being sold for pennies
[34:57] Speaker 1: on the dollar of their previous worth.
[34:59] Speaker 2: Downstown restaurants clothing. Closing, rather, because they have no customers.
[35:03] Speaker 2: Reminds me of stories from Detroit I heard years ago
[35:05] Speaker 2: where you could buy a house in downtown Detroit for
[35:07] Speaker 2: a dollar.
[35:08] Speaker 1: I remember that. So here's the lesson. If you want
[35:11] Speaker 1: to lower the cost of housing, just stop enforcing the
[35:13] Speaker 1: law and let your city become an asshole, and no
[35:15] Speaker 1: one but street junkies and prostitutes will want to live there.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Problem solved. Eventually, yes. That's true.
[35:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[35:23] Speaker 1: Policies have consequences. Speaking of policies, how about Trump's policy
[35:28] Speaker 1: of funding Russia's war efforts to try to get the
[35:31] Speaker 1: price of diesel down a little bit before the election? Ugh. Man,
[35:37] Speaker 1: even some of the Fox stalwarts hate it and have
[35:40] Speaker 1: been very outspoken about how awful it is. Interesting. Very interesting.
[35:44] Speaker 1: And a couple of Republican senators that came out on
[35:46] Speaker 1: the talk shows yesterday. We'll we'll get into that a
[35:48] Speaker 1: little bit in our two and lots of other stuff.
[35:51] Speaker 1: You'll never miss a segment if you get the podcast
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