# Spiro Spiliadis, Ward 3

An episode of [Rose City Politics](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1247337855), 8 Oct 2026, 25 min.

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Pat Papadeas interviews Ward 3 candidate Spiro Spiliadis.

## Transcript

[0:22] Speaker 1: Welcome to a bonus episode of Rose City Politics. Thank
[0:26] Speaker 1: you for joining us for this special series on RCP,
[0:29] Speaker 1: where we're talking with some of the candidates running in
[0:31] Speaker 1: the upcoming Windsor Municipal Election, and E-Day is in October, October.
[0:37] Speaker 2: 26th, I believe.
[0:38] Speaker 1: I'm Pat Papadias and joining me today is Spiro Spilladis,
[0:42] Speaker 1: candidate for Ward 3. Spiro is a native of downtown
[0:45] Speaker 1: Ward 3 resident where he continues to live today. For
[0:50] Speaker 1: the past 20 years, Spiro's career has spanned roles in advertising, marketing,
[0:54] Speaker 1: and now working with small business owners in a management
[0:57] Speaker 1: consulting capacity. Spiro believes one of the primary reasons Windsor
[1:01] Speaker 1: is facing challenges when it comes to homelessness, substance use, disorder,
[1:06] Speaker 1: and mental health challenge is derived from the issues relating
[1:09] Speaker 1: to service design models.
[1:11] Speaker 2: We'll get into a little bit of that.
[1:13] Speaker 1: While his reasons for running in Ward 3 remain personal,
[1:17] Speaker 1: it's his professional understanding of customer experience management through which
[1:21] Speaker 1: he sees opportunities to improve how we design the services
[1:26] Speaker 1: surrounding these critical issues.
[1:28] Speaker 2: Spiros Bilyadis, welcome to Rose City Politics.
[1:31] Speaker 1: Hi, Pat.
[1:32] Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on the show.
[1:34] Speaker 2: I want to start with something going back to May.
[1:38] Speaker 1: In May of this year, you wrote publicly that you
[1:40] Speaker 1: were not running for mayor or Ward 3 Council and
[1:44] Speaker 1: that to suggest otherwise would be premature. But a few
[1:47] Speaker 1: months later, here we are. You have filed to run
[1:49] Speaker 1: in Ward 3. Tell me a little bit about what changed.
[1:53] Speaker 4: Well, we need to go before May and probably back
[1:58] Speaker 4: into August of 25, August, 2025, when I first decided
[2:02] Speaker 4: to step into the shelter systems find out. And the
[2:06] Speaker 4: personal reason was someone close to me was going through
[2:09] Speaker 4: that process. So that gathering of information was more or
[2:15] Speaker 4: less for my own personal use. When we got to May,
[2:20] Speaker 4: even though I said it was premature of me to run,
[2:22] Speaker 4: I mean, in the back of my mind, I always
[2:24] Speaker 4: knew I would have to make that final decision.
[2:26] Speaker 3: What, ended up making me decide to do.
[2:29] Speaker 4: That final decision was the fact that I wasn't satisfied
[2:33] Speaker 4: with how the months were going from May up to
[2:37] Speaker 4: the point where I could finally decide to run. I
[2:40] Speaker 4: continuously have been talking behind the scenes with, uh, council
[2:44] Speaker 4: city administration, hoping that maybe my public, um, um, being
[2:50] Speaker 4: out loud with everything that I was doing would have
[2:52] Speaker 4: triggered maybe a more, uh, direct, um, intervention with them saying, okay,
[2:57] Speaker 4: we're now we're ready to listen. When I saw that
[2:59] Speaker 4: didn't happen, that's when I decided that I had to
[3:02] Speaker 4: run to continue on with what I had to say.
[3:04] Speaker 1: And certainly, uh, those that did fall have followed you
[3:11] Speaker 1: on social know that it was a pretty eyeopening experience. Um,
[3:15] Speaker 1: you know, a lot of your public writing has been
[3:17] Speaker 1: about systems that aren't working, particularly around homelessness and services
[3:21] Speaker 1: supporting people experiencing addiction and mental illness.
[3:24] Speaker 2: You've been very clear about what you think is wrong.
[3:27] Speaker 2: Perhaps you can share some of that for those that
[3:31] Speaker 2: haven't read up on it, but also what you would
[3:33] Speaker 2: actually do differently as a city councillor.
[3:36] Speaker 3: Sure.
[3:36] Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think it's from the outside looking
[3:40] Speaker 4: in when someone runs for council right away, we're looking
[3:42] Speaker 4: at personality or what they've done in the community and Obviously,
[3:46] Speaker 4: I don't have any of that connection when it comes
[3:49] Speaker 4: to community and politics. I've been behind the scenes, you know,
[3:52] Speaker 4: with my own career as a marketer and advertiser now
[3:56] Speaker 4: in management consulting. And as I was what we call
[4:00] Speaker 4: field research for most would look at as a mystery shopper,
[4:03] Speaker 4: which I've done early in my career is, you know,
[4:06] Speaker 4: look at the actual reality of what's going on and
[4:09] Speaker 4: how things are moving about inside of a service that
[4:13] Speaker 4: is being provided by these shelters. So when I started
[4:18] Speaker 4: looking at this, I was looking at it from a
[4:20] Speaker 4: personal experience, meaning what I was going through while I was,
[4:25] Speaker 4: so to speak, undercover and how people were getting treated
[4:30] Speaker 4: versus the models that I was following from all the
[4:34] Speaker 4: research I was doing in how evidence based information works.
[4:38] Speaker 4: like dignity and compassion are not just subjective words. They're
[4:42] Speaker 4: actually objective ways to measure that. So the management consulting
[4:47] Speaker 4: mindset that I have building around frameworks like jobs to
[4:51] Speaker 4: be done, which is a scientific way of measuring end-to-end
[4:55] Speaker 4: customer journeys, operating models, and looking at friction points between
[5:01] Speaker 4: transitions and change management as far as how people who
[5:06] Speaker 4: are hired to do these jobs.
[5:09] Speaker 3: That's the one aspect of it.
[5:11] Speaker 4: So in the business world, we spend a lot of
[5:14] Speaker 4: time looking at these journeys, looking at these friction points,
[5:18] Speaker 4: looking at.
[5:18] Speaker 3: The results and the outcomes.
[5:20] Speaker 4: And I was noticing none of that stuff was really
[5:23] Speaker 4: happening from the firsthand point of view I was getting,
[5:26] Speaker 4: but as well as from the information I could find online.
[5:30] Speaker 4: In addition, when I was trying to get answers to
[5:32] Speaker 4: questions that were not being asked to city administration, I
[5:36] Speaker 4: was not getting replied to. So that part of the
[5:39] Speaker 4: ghosting made me very emotional because I wasn't getting what
[5:44] Speaker 4: I wanted to hear. So the bottom line is, is
[5:48] Speaker 4: that we need to relook at how these services are
[5:50] Speaker 4: being offered. First and foremost, from a dignity and compassion
[5:54] Speaker 4: point of view, that there's not really the sense that
[5:58] Speaker 4: we're creating the experiences these people need on an everyday basis.
[6:03] Speaker 4: But that is more of a peer support kind of
[6:07] Speaker 4: a thing. Where I'm looking at is the social work
[6:09] Speaker 4: aspect of this service design model. Now, evidence has shown
[6:13] Speaker 4: that people who move towards detox and recovery require momentum.
[6:19] Speaker 4: Within these shelters, it's more of a groundhog day.
[6:22] Speaker 3: So the services that.
[6:23] Speaker 4: Are being provided may be to feed them, giving them
[6:26] Speaker 4: a mat to sleep on, in acute care if they
[6:32] Speaker 4: are getting sick, they have.
[6:33] Speaker 3: The flu, those things are there.
[6:35] Speaker 4: But the whole idea of the service design model is
[6:39] Speaker 4: based on new information, evidence that is showing us that
[6:43] Speaker 4: we need to focus on how these people are moving forward.
[6:47] Speaker 4: So right now, one of the biggest issues that I
[6:50] Speaker 4: have is that the H4, the downtown mission and the
[6:53] Speaker 4: Salvation Army are running their own service models and they're
[6:57] Speaker 4: not really interconnected. That plays a big role in the
[7:01] Speaker 4: details that are required, the context, so to speak, when
[7:04] Speaker 4: it comes to a person's persona. So it's a lot
[7:09] Speaker 4: different when you have a 25-year-old woman who's suffered sexual
[7:13] Speaker 4: assault and is suffering from mental health challenges and substance
[7:19] Speaker 4: use disorders and happens to find herself living in the
[7:21] Speaker 4: age four versus a gentleman who's in his 60s and
[7:26] Speaker 4: is homeless because he couldn't afford his last apartment because
[7:30] Speaker 4: he was a hoarder and he got kicked out. But
[7:31] Speaker 4: everyone's put into the same big pot trying to provide
[7:36] Speaker 4: a service that that doesn't really match anymore. So my
[7:39] Speaker 4: background is more about figuring out how we can start
[7:42] Speaker 4: the end-to-end service experience of this using evidence-based information and
[7:48] Speaker 4: using frameworks that we find in the business sector, such
[7:52] Speaker 4: as a jobs-to-be-done approach, which is a gentleman who uses
[7:56] Speaker 4: it to create products and services, but it's a lot
[8:00] Speaker 4: different than just saying what services we should provide. So
[8:03] Speaker 4: it's a very difficult, complex process, but it still requires clarity,
[8:09] Speaker 4: understanding the outcomes we're trying to produce. Let me give
[8:13] Speaker 4: you a quick example where this happens. And I wrote
[8:15] Speaker 4: about this. There was a gentleman who overdosed four times
[8:18] Speaker 4: in one week at the H4. The EMS shows up,
[8:21] Speaker 4: the fire shows up, sometimes the police show up, They
[8:25] Speaker 4: revive him using Narcan. The EMS brings him to the hospital.
[8:30] Speaker 4: He goes through the acute process of the care. Once
[8:34] Speaker 4: that is done, he's released back into the H4. Now,
[8:37] Speaker 4: there are a lot of drugs being sold within the
[8:39] Speaker 4: Glengarry apartments inside of the H4 and around that core area.
[8:43] Speaker 3: What they do is it's called beaning.
[8:45] Speaker 4: And what happens is that they will test new batches
[8:48] Speaker 4: of drugs on people who have mental challenges because they
[8:51] Speaker 4: really don't question what they're smoking.
[8:53] Speaker 3: Hence why he overdosed four times in one week. Now,
[8:56] Speaker 3: I don't look at that.
[8:57] Speaker 4: Only as a service flaw as far as protecting this
[9:01] Speaker 4: person in the first place. I don't look at it
[9:03] Speaker 4: as a service flaw only of the Narcan and so forth,
[9:06] Speaker 4: but I look at it from a financial perspective. If
[9:09] Speaker 4: we add up every emergency service in that four times
[9:13] Speaker 4: in one week, we're looking at $ 10, 000 with that kind
[9:17] Speaker 4: of response. Now, that's a general amount, but it's around there.
[9:20] Speaker 4: And then I look at how much it would have
[9:22] Speaker 4: cost to house him in the first place. Now, that's
[9:24] Speaker 4: not one answer, sort of one problem that has a
[9:28] Speaker 4: solution to it. It's saying that we've identified a gap
[9:31] Speaker 4: and friction of what's going on. How do we measure
[9:35] Speaker 4: it so we make certain it doesn't happen again? And
[9:37] Speaker 4: that's what's missing within the entire shelter system and its
[9:41] Speaker 4: connection with city administrations.
[9:44] Speaker 1: You know, I did have a question specifically around H4 because,
[9:48] Speaker 1: you know, within that system, you have both outside and
[9:52] Speaker 1: close up examination of that. But if you think if
[9:57] Speaker 1: there's anything else you want to say, I was going
[9:59] Speaker 1: to ask you about. you know, what would a redesign
[10:02] Speaker 1: of that system look like? I think you've talked a
[10:05] Speaker 1: little bit about your approach.
[10:06] Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to add before I
[10:07] Speaker 2: move on to some of the other issues?
[10:09] Speaker 4: Well, first thing is that, and again, my apologies to
[10:13] Speaker 4: the listeners is that I'm not trying to turn city
[10:15] Speaker 4: hall into a business, nor am I trying to, you know,
[10:19] Speaker 4: be so, hard on city administration and shelters.
[10:24] Speaker 3: No, that's not what I'm doing.
[10:26] Speaker 4: As a management consultant, I ask tough questions. I've been
[10:28] Speaker 4: doing this a long time. It comes down to the
[10:31] Speaker 4: point that what does performance look like? What do outcomes
[10:34] Speaker 4: look like? But one thing I can tell you is
[10:37] Speaker 4: this as far as the H4, that it's one thing
[10:40] Speaker 4: when you admit there are mistakes and we're working on them.
[10:43] Speaker 4: It's another thing to hide them behind the optics that
[10:46] Speaker 4: are going on. So When we have an issue with
[10:49] Speaker 4: the H4 that publicly, the public only knows one story
[10:53] Speaker 4: of this at the Windsor Star release, which was the
[10:55] Speaker 4: embezzlement issues through.
[10:57] Speaker 3: The executive director. Where's the oversight?
[11:00] Speaker 4: So to me, the first step of designing better services
[11:04] Speaker 4: is understanding what's not working so we can move forward
[11:08] Speaker 4: to that. The second part is knowing our customers. There's
[11:12] Speaker 4: under a thousand people who are homeless. how many of
[11:15] Speaker 4: those are dual disorder and so forth. So that's the
[11:17] Speaker 4: first part of the service design model is understanding who
[11:21] Speaker 4: we are servicing, segmenting those people properly and understanding how
[11:26] Speaker 4: to reverse engineer.
[11:27] Speaker 3: So for example, if we find through our.
[11:31] Speaker 4: Oversight strategy and a thorough understanding of the residents that
[11:36] Speaker 4: we're trying to serve, that if there's 25 people that
[11:40] Speaker 4: need long-term care that suffer from dual disorder, that have
[11:43] Speaker 4: suffered from high trauma then we know what kind of
[11:46] Speaker 4: housing to provide them. Because right now we're looking at
[11:48] Speaker 4: it saying, well, we need to house a thousand people.
[11:51] Speaker 3: Well, how many of those people need this type of housing?
[11:55] Speaker 4: How many type of people will need this type of housing?
[11:57] Speaker 4: So it plays a role in the entire service model design,
[12:01] Speaker 4: redesigning of that service.
[12:03] Speaker 3: Right.
[12:03] Speaker 1: It goes back to the evidence-based decision-making that you were
[12:06] Speaker 1: talking about. Let's move a little bit from, you know,
[12:10] Speaker 1: I do appreciate a lot of your attention is on
[12:13] Speaker 1: those issues. Of course, Ward 3 residents care about, you know,
[12:18] Speaker 1: that and all the other things that residents generally care
[12:22] Speaker 1: about in a city and in a ward. Everything from,
[12:25] Speaker 1: you know, whether it's their roads or their infrastructure, their taxes,
[12:29] Speaker 1: their parks, etc., In addition to, of course, downtown being
[12:33] Speaker 1: home to, you know, a business community that continues to
[12:40] Speaker 1: struggle sort of in the balance of some of these
[12:42] Speaker 1: issues and uniqueness of these issues. It concentrated around our
[12:47] Speaker 1: city core as they are in many other urban centers,
[12:52] Speaker 1: largely because services are also there. If you're elected, what
[12:56] Speaker 1: other kinds of issues are a priority for you, whether
[13:00] Speaker 1: connected to those or beyond?
[13:04] Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that we need to keep
[13:06] Speaker 4: in mind that everything is interconnected in some certain way.
[13:09] Speaker 4: So one of the first things that I look at
[13:12] Speaker 4: is how do we reduce the public drug use? Now,
[13:16] Speaker 4: there's conflicting interests about harm reduction, safe supply and so forth.
[13:19] Speaker 4: But one of the biggest things that I want to
[13:21] Speaker 4: be able to do is to streamline the the public
[13:24] Speaker 4: use of drugs that inevitably helps us to the next step.
[13:28] Speaker 4: And that is showing investors and residents that we've made
[13:32] Speaker 4: what I'm calling, we need.
[13:33] Speaker 3: Small term wins, long term gains.
[13:36] Speaker 4: So the small term win for me right now is
[13:38] Speaker 4: figuring out an ecosystem that we can remove public use
[13:42] Speaker 4: of drugs, but still create a, what I'm calling a
[13:45] Speaker 4: context case management strategy, which means we sustain that ability
[13:50] Speaker 4: to remove that. Now, what that shows investors are saying
[13:53] Speaker 4: is that they're moving this in the right direction. Now,
[13:56] Speaker 4: we have a lot of empty properties in the downtown
[13:58] Speaker 4: core area.
[13:59] Speaker 3: That we need to revitalize, right?
[14:01] Speaker 4: Beyond just saying, okay, now we've moved the direction in
[14:05] Speaker 4: the right where we're controlling the public use of drugs,
[14:08] Speaker 4: we're becoming more safer community, we strategically are using police.
[14:14] Speaker 3: In a creative way with social workers, with nurses.
[14:18] Speaker 4: But now these investors, for example, let's use the property
[14:21] Speaker 4: that's on Ouellette and Wyandotte. That building's been empty for
[14:26] Speaker 4: a long time and for at least for a long time.
[14:29] Speaker 4: These investors are not just looking at saying, okay, well,
[14:32] Speaker 4: you've cleaned up some of the drug issues, but show
[14:35] Speaker 4: me now the foot traffic.
[14:36] Speaker 3: Show me the numbers, like details, numbers, data.
[14:39] Speaker 4: These investors want to know numbers that perhaps don't exist.
[14:44] Speaker 4: I guess for me, it continues on thinking like a
[14:46] Speaker 4: management consultant. I assess the situation. Once that conclusion comes,
[14:51] Speaker 4: I plan for an implemented. So one of the jobs
[14:53] Speaker 4: that I want to be able to do in the
[14:55] Speaker 4: downtown Korea is be very clear on the investment opportunities
[14:59] Speaker 4: of these vacant locations and then provide investors with a
[15:04] Speaker 4: portfolio of understanding the data that they need to do
[15:07] Speaker 4: to make that decision if they're willing to invest. That
[15:11] Speaker 4: is something that may or may not exist in detail
[15:15] Speaker 4: the way I'm looking at it, but it's one of
[15:17] Speaker 4: the priorities for me. And in reality, I'm not looking
[15:22] Speaker 4: to chase issues. I'm looking to stand where I'm at
[15:25] Speaker 4: and find a process to bring those issues towards me.
[15:29] Speaker 4: So even though council has specific jobs and duties, such
[15:34] Speaker 4: as understanding how to listen to the customer, but keeping
[15:37] Speaker 4: track of that information, making certain to reply to them.
[15:39] Speaker 4: So time management, for example, is something that's not new
[15:42] Speaker 4: to me that I need to be able to work
[15:44] Speaker 4: with and making certain I'm addressing every single concern and issue.
[15:48] Speaker 3: In a proper manner.
[15:50] Speaker 4: I want to address this because it's a huge part
[15:53] Speaker 4: of probably my most difficult part of running against an
[15:58] Speaker 4: incumbent like Ronaldo Agostino, who I know Ronaldo since 1993
[16:03] Speaker 4: from the zoo days. That's how long I've known him
[16:06] Speaker 4: and what kind of contributions he's brought. Now, he's done
[16:09] Speaker 4: something very well for the downtown community, and that is
[16:12] Speaker 4: keep the vitality alive. and hope alive that downtown Windsor
[16:16] Speaker 4: can be a lot more than what it is.
[16:18] Speaker 3: And I give him a lot of credit on that.
[16:20] Speaker 4: And that's a full-time job in itself, let alone having
[16:23] Speaker 4: to worry about the details of the issues that's going on,
[16:26] Speaker 4: but they're all interconnected. And if we're going to make
[16:30] Speaker 4: downtown Windsor better, we need to be able to have
[16:33] Speaker 4: the portfolio and the plan properly put in place to
[16:36] Speaker 4: get these investors coming back downtown. It's funny, Pat, you know,
[16:40] Speaker 4: I wrote about this and it's easy for me to
[16:43] Speaker 4: judge and it's easy for me to create drama around
[16:46] Speaker 4: these topics because I haven't done the job. And, you know,
[16:51] Speaker 4: it's something that I'm preparing for and knowing it. But
[16:55] Speaker 4: we also have to keep in mind that what is
[16:59] Speaker 4: difficult in this is capturing everything. correct data so we
[17:03] Speaker 4: can make informed and qualified decisions. And that's something that
[17:07] Speaker 4: regardless if it's Rinaldo re-elected or to myself, is that
[17:10] Speaker 4: something that city administration and city hall has to improve upon.
[17:16] Speaker 2: Well, I certainly, first of all, give you credit.
[17:17] Speaker 1: And I say this to all the candidates that I interviewed,
[17:20] Speaker 1: because I think it takes a lot of courage to
[17:22] Speaker 1: put your name on the ballot and actively campaign and
[17:25] Speaker 1: get your issues out. and thank you for sort of,
[17:30] Speaker 1: you know, how straightforward you are. You actually have written
[17:33] Speaker 1: quite a bit about leadership, particularly humility, accountability, and the
[17:37] Speaker 1: idea that elected officials are public servants and not above
[17:42] Speaker 1: anyone else. Do you think that is the approach that
[17:46] Speaker 1: you would carry forward if you're a councillor? And also,
[17:48] Speaker 1: I guess I would ask, you know, what would you
[17:50] Speaker 1: do if you got something wrong?
[17:52] Speaker 3: Sure.
[17:53] Speaker 4: Well, again, you know, I go back to how I
[17:55] Speaker 4: was nurtured and raised by a mom who, you know,
[17:58] Speaker 4: she always told me that you're born with character.
[18:01] Speaker 3: You can't teach it.
[18:02] Speaker 4: It's a gift bag that's given to you when you're
[18:04] Speaker 4: born and it's up to you to go inside of
[18:07] Speaker 4: it and use it or not acknowledge it.
[18:09] Speaker 3: So it's not something you can teach.
[18:10] Speaker 4: And I think for me, when you have a word
[18:14] Speaker 4: three with, you know, 20 plus thousand people in there
[18:18] Speaker 4: and they put that X next to your name, this
[18:22] Speaker 4: moral authority kicks in that I'm there to be a steward.
[18:26] Speaker 4: And if you get something wrong, you own it and
[18:30] Speaker 4: you be transparent about it. We don't have to look
[18:34] Speaker 4: very far right now at how divided the city is
[18:38] Speaker 4: and how much, you know, people are angry at each other. And,
[18:42] Speaker 4: you know, it's very disheartening to see that because there's
[18:46] Speaker 4: a reason for it. And the reason has to do with,
[18:49] Speaker 4: first and foremost, is ghosting.
[18:53] Speaker 3: Residents.
[18:54] Speaker 4: It's not fun not to get responses to questions that
[18:58] Speaker 4: are important to you. So that's a huge part of
[19:01] Speaker 4: the moral authority of responding and which ties into stuff
[19:04] Speaker 4: where I've said before is how well we're.
[19:07] Speaker 3: Able to do that.
[19:09] Speaker 4: Another factor that kind of comes in where I'm a
[19:11] Speaker 4: big stickler about is that, and I mentioned it, if I'm,
[19:17] Speaker 4: you know, in this position now, and I get phone
[19:21] Speaker 4: calls from friends saying, hey, Spiro, can you pull this
[19:23] Speaker 4: favor for me?
[19:24] Speaker 3: Or Spiro, can you pull this favor for me?
[19:26] Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, don't even bother calling me
[19:28] Speaker 4: because the whole role of what I do in the private.
[19:31] Speaker 3: Sector is different.
[19:32] Speaker 4: And what I do as a public servant is completely
[19:35] Speaker 4: different as well. Now, I'm not saying anybody's doing anything wrong.
[19:39] Speaker 4: I'm just saying we have to take it to the
[19:40] Speaker 4: next level. So leadership is how well you bring integrity
[19:45] Speaker 4: into it. I actually created a counsel code. I've been
[19:49] Speaker 4: working on this to remind myself every single day. What
[19:51] Speaker 4: it is, is I'm looking to cross my T's and
[19:54] Speaker 4: dot my I's every single day. And what that means
[19:57] Speaker 4: is that I'm transparent, I'm trustworthy, I work within a
[20:01] Speaker 4: teamwork environment.
[20:03] Speaker 3: I have integrity, I have involvement, and I have ingenuity.
[20:06] Speaker 4: And when I walk into a meeting and I know
[20:09] Speaker 4: that's something that the public needs to know, but the
[20:12] Speaker 4: private side of the conversation may be talking out of
[20:16] Speaker 4: both sides of your mouth, that's when I got to
[20:17] Speaker 4: remind myself that I'm here because of my integrity and
[20:20] Speaker 4: the transparency that I promised those War III residents I
[20:24] Speaker 4: would deliver.
[20:25] Speaker 3: So it's a natural tendency of being the right human being.
[20:29] Speaker 4: And I think it's not just in the municipal government,
[20:32] Speaker 4: But it's also in the provincial government.
[20:34] Speaker 3: We're seeing it. We're seeing it in the federal government.
[20:37] Speaker 3: And we're we're tired of it.
[20:38] Speaker 4: You know, people are struggling and we don't need any
[20:42] Speaker 4: more optics.
[20:42] Speaker 3: We need honesty and trustworthiness.
[20:45] Speaker 4: I think a lot more people will respect if you
[20:47] Speaker 4: make a mistake and you acknowledge it and you take
[20:50] Speaker 4: it and you run with it and you fix it
[20:52] Speaker 4: rather than trying to hide it behind some sort of optics.
[20:55] Speaker 2: I know we could probably go on. Unfortunately, we don't
[20:58] Speaker 2: have that much time left.
[20:59] Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an opportunity to tell us
[21:01] Speaker 1: a little bit about what you're hearing at the doors
[21:03] Speaker 1: before we move into wrap up here.
[21:05] Speaker 2: What are you hearing at the doors? You're knocking on doors,
[21:07] Speaker 2: I assume.
[21:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I had to put on an
[21:11] Speaker 4: extra thick layer of skin.
[21:13] Speaker 3: You know, we all have eagles. There's mixed emotions.
[21:17] Speaker 4: I would say probably at least less than half of
[21:21] Speaker 4: the people I've talked to have no interest in voting,
[21:23] Speaker 4: which is very disheartening. A lot of people who have
[21:26] Speaker 4: knocked on the door are, you know, they're being honest.
[21:30] Speaker 3: They're saying they're going to support Ronaldo. I tried to
[21:33] Speaker 3: tell them why, you know, they should look at it differently.
[21:35] Speaker 4: But I think a lot of people are also too
[21:37] Speaker 4: afraid of losing what he has created. And I want
[21:40] Speaker 4: to address that very quickly that I'm not looking to
[21:43] Speaker 4: tear down anything he's done. Actually, I want to work
[21:45] Speaker 4: harder in what he's done and leverage that ability. I
[21:47] Speaker 4: will never be Ronaldo Agostino. I will never be able
[21:50] Speaker 4: to be the event and promoter that he has been.
[21:54] Speaker 4: But what I can do is make certain that what
[21:56] Speaker 4: he's built is protected and make.
[21:58] Speaker 3: Certain we grow upon, especially with the DWBIA. So mixed things.
[22:04] Speaker 3: They don't want to vote. They have very interest in
[22:07] Speaker 3: what I have to say. Once I release my.
[22:09] Speaker 4: Platform and my website next week, that will reveal a
[22:12] Speaker 4: lot more. And I think that's pretty much it as
[22:16] Speaker 4: far as what I'm hearing there. Most of the doors
[22:18] Speaker 4: are not opening, which is natural. I think when people
[22:21] Speaker 4: are knocking on your door, they're expecting someone to knock
[22:23] Speaker 4: on it. But overall, that's the hard part is that
[22:26] Speaker 4: people really are not very enthusiastic about voting once again.
[22:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[22:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[22:31] Speaker 1: And that's, of course, been a longstanding issue. Some wards
[22:34] Speaker 1: have lower voter turnout than others. And Ward 3 is
[22:37] Speaker 1: notoriously one of our lower voter turnout wards. In the
[22:41] Speaker 1: last 30 seconds, if you will, what do you want
[22:45] Speaker 1: to share to those who are listening and specifically living
[22:48] Speaker 1: in Ward 3?
[22:49] Speaker 2: About your campaign, why you're running, and why they should
[22:52] Speaker 2: put an X next to Spiros Piedadis?
[22:54] Speaker 3: Sure.
[22:55] Speaker 4: Well, once again, they will be able to visit the website,
[22:58] Speaker 4: which I will release next week, in incrementals of four
[23:01] Speaker 4: stages of what my platform, my proposals, so to speak, are.
[23:06] Speaker 4: But what I want people to understand is this, that
[23:09] Speaker 4: right now, I believe I'm the right person for this job.
[23:13] Speaker 4: Because of my background and my understanding of how to
[23:17] Speaker 4: bring clarity to complex issues, my openness of asking tough
[23:22] Speaker 4: questions that otherwise perhaps others wouldn't, and finally bringing in
[23:28] Speaker 4: this sense of humility. I think that not only I'm
[23:32] Speaker 4: eating lots of humble pie, I think everybody in council, mayor,
[23:35] Speaker 4: and city administration needs to become a little more humble
[23:40] Speaker 4: at what the residents are going through and finally move
[23:43] Speaker 4: this in the right direction beyond just just beyond just
[23:48] Speaker 4: trying to keep it.
[23:50] Speaker 3: Going as it is. So I'm the right person right
[23:53] Speaker 3: now for the job. And that's the way I look
[23:55] Speaker 3: at it.
[23:56] Speaker 1: That's Spiros Filiades, candidate for Ward 3 in the October
[23:59] Speaker 1: 26th municipal election. This has been a Rose City Politics
[24:03] Speaker 1: bonus episode. Thank you, Spiro, for joining us. I'm Pat Papadias,
[24:07] Speaker 1: and you've been listening to Rose City Politics. We'll see
[24:09] Speaker 1: you next time.
[24:26] Speaker 2: Thank you.

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