# Mike Holmgren on Nelson Trade, Deals, Line Moves, Chiefs, Williams

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 29 Oct 2026, 20 min.

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Mike Holmgren joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Seahawks with a new All Pro guard, the line movement with Grey Zabel that the trade forces, the huge amount of trade deadline deals in the modern NFL, the Bears adding Jeffery Simmons, Seattle’s win over Kansas City, their plan for running backs, and Caleb Williams’ skills. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:59] Speaker 3: Coach, how are you, man? What's going on?
[1:02] Speaker 4: I'm doing great, guys. Good to talk with you.
[1:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, good to have you back on the show. I mean,
[1:06] Speaker 2: there's not like there's nothing going on. I mean, everybody's
[1:09] Speaker 2: making trades around the NFL. It feels like the Hawks
[1:11] Speaker 2: make a deal for an offensive lineman. The rest of
[1:13] Speaker 2: the league kind of flips out and says, well, we've
[1:15] Speaker 2: got to do something too, man. The Niners getting Buckner.
[1:18] Speaker 2: The Bears getting Simmons. Let's talk about the trade, though,
[1:21] Speaker 2: for the guard, for Quentin Nelson. And I just want
[1:24] Speaker 2: you to go back with your memory cap on. Do
[1:26] Speaker 2: you ever remember making a deal midseason, offseason for an
[1:31] Speaker 2: offensive lineman like this and noticing an immediate impact with
[1:35] Speaker 2: that group up front after the trade?
[1:37] Speaker 4: You know what? No, I don't remember anything quite like that. Now,
[1:42] Speaker 4: John has a knack for doing this, but one, I
[1:47] Speaker 4: never understood why Indianapolis would trade that player. He's really
[1:53] Speaker 4: a great player. I mean, it's good for the Seahawks.
[1:55] Speaker 4: It really is good for the Seahawks. But I never
[1:58] Speaker 4: could understand that, that they'd even ask for that player
[2:02] Speaker 4: and get him. And so, no, I never did that.
[2:06] Speaker 4: I can't remember doing it. Or the guys from Ron Wolf,
[2:11] Speaker 4: who was... in charge of those types of things in
[2:15] Speaker 4: Green Bay, he never did it. We had our guys
[2:18] Speaker 4: that we had, and that's kind of how we stuck
[2:21] Speaker 4: with him during the year.
[2:23] Speaker 5: Well, this football trade deadline, Coach, has almost become like
[2:26] Speaker 5: the baseball trade deadline. I mean, it used to be dead.
[2:29] Speaker 5: NFL trade deadline was dead, and I'm wondering... Do you
[2:32] Speaker 5: think that it's because we've got a new generation of
[2:36] Speaker 5: GMs that just grew up with fantasy football and trading
[2:40] Speaker 5: guys all the time, and because we never used to
[2:43] Speaker 5: see these trades forever?
[2:45] Speaker 4: Well, you know, Dick, I think you hit on something there,
[2:48] Speaker 4: because I think not only new GMs, but new owners.
[2:52] Speaker 4: You know, the owners of the Indianapolis Colts now, I
[2:55] Speaker 4: believe it's the daughter of.
[2:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, per se.
[2:59] Speaker 4: And so, you know, I'm sure... I don't know this,
[3:03] Speaker 4: but I would think she has something to do with
[3:05] Speaker 4: this or someone is selling her on the idea of
[3:08] Speaker 4: we've got to start over. But listen, I always thought,
[3:14] Speaker 4: and I saw it happen a lot, that you think, okay,
[3:19] Speaker 4: we're going to make this trade and we're going to
[3:20] Speaker 4: get two draft picks for next year's draft or whatever,
[3:24] Speaker 4: and on the surface this is how we build. But
[3:27] Speaker 4: I know who I have. I've got an all-pro, one
[3:30] Speaker 4: of the best guards in football right now Why would
[3:32] Speaker 4: I get rid of him for something I don't even
[3:34] Speaker 4: know for sure that could happen? You know, that's kind
[3:38] Speaker 4: of how I looked at it.
[3:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a free agent at the end of
[3:41] Speaker 3: the year.
[3:42] Speaker 2: You know, the Simmons deal, I mean, you can kind
[3:44] Speaker 2: of maybe criticize the Titans saying, hey, if you can
[3:46] Speaker 2: get your act together, the guy's got three years left
[3:48] Speaker 2: on a contract, and they just bailed. But let's go
[3:51] Speaker 2: back to Quentin Nelson for a second. First of all, Mike,
[3:54] Speaker 2: do you see any issue with him stepping in and
[3:57] Speaker 2: starting and playing in this offense right away? on Monday night.
[4:01] Speaker 2: He's been playing for the Colts. It's not like he
[4:03] Speaker 2: was sitting on his couch at home doing nothing. Do
[4:06] Speaker 2: you see any issue for him playing Monday night at all?
[4:09] Speaker 2: And then number two on that, what do you think
[4:12] Speaker 2: they'll be able to do with him that maybe they
[4:14] Speaker 2: weren't able to do without him?
[4:16] Speaker 4: Well, no, I don't see any issue with him playing.
[4:20] Speaker 4: If he plays the same position he's always played. You know,
[4:22] Speaker 4: they're talking about the right guard, left guard, and the
[4:26] Speaker 4: guy has to move from right to... I think the
[4:27] Speaker 4: other Correct me if I'm wrong, but who's the left guard?
[4:31] Speaker 3: Zabel.
[4:32] Speaker 4: Zabel, yeah. And they're moving him, I believe, to the
[4:35] Speaker 4: right guard.
[4:36] Speaker 5: Right.
[4:37] Speaker 4: Okay, that's a little bigger deal than people think.
[4:41] Speaker 3: Why?
[4:41] Speaker 4: Same with wide receivers. Jerry Rice on the right side
[4:44] Speaker 4: was different than Jerry Rice on the left side if
[4:46] Speaker 4: I put him over there. It's just different. And so
[4:50] Speaker 4: I think that's something to look at. But as far
[4:51] Speaker 4: as plugging him into the position he has played, and,
[4:56] Speaker 4: you know, I don't see any problem with that. And then...
[4:59] Speaker 4: Now you've got to decide if you're going to extend him.
[5:03] Speaker 4: And it's a big contract and all that kind of stuff.
[5:05] Speaker 4: Then the money stuff creeps in on deals like this.
[5:09] Speaker 5: A lot of the talking points about the offensive line
[5:13] Speaker 5: were Abe Lucas' struggles, particularly before last week's game. And
[5:16] Speaker 5: I'm seeing 75% of the right guard snaps this year
[5:21] Speaker 5: have been by a rookie and a guy that's not
[5:23] Speaker 5: on the active roster anymore. And I am wondering... How
[5:26] Speaker 5: much of Abe Lucas' struggles had to do with that?
[5:29] Speaker 5: Because Bradford was back in last week, and he looked
[5:31] Speaker 5: a lot better.
[5:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, that definitely has something to do with it because
[5:36] Speaker 4: the right guard and right tackle, like the left guard
[5:39] Speaker 4: and left tackle, and they throw the center in there.
[5:42] Speaker 4: You know, they work well together. The more they know
[5:47] Speaker 4: each other, the more they know what to expect from
[5:50] Speaker 4: that position. And I go back to the time, you know,
[5:52] Speaker 4: when we went to the Super Bowl our year, you know,
[5:57] Speaker 4: with Walter Jones and all those guys, we had the
[6:02] Speaker 4: same offensive line all year. And they had played together
[6:05] Speaker 4: for a while. And that does make a difference. It
[6:08] Speaker 4: does make a difference. But I think in John, you know,
[6:12] Speaker 4: they get a chance to get a really, really good
[6:14] Speaker 4: football player. And so he went for it.
[6:20] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[6:20] Speaker 2: Well, and then the Bears, Mike, went out and got
[6:22] Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons, three-time All-Pro defensive tackle from the Titans. I mean,
[6:27] Speaker 2: we get a guard, they get a defensive tackle. I
[6:29] Speaker 2: don't know how much these guys will go head-to-head on
[6:32] Speaker 2: Monday night, but if you're Brian Fleury and Mike McDonald,
[6:36] Speaker 2: even up until two hours ago, you were game planning
[6:39] Speaker 2: for a certain look from the Bears' defense, and now
[6:41] Speaker 2: they went out and got maybe the best defensive tackle,
[6:44] Speaker 2: one of them at least. In the NFL, how does
[6:47] Speaker 2: that change your protection scheme and your game planning when
[6:50] Speaker 2: on the Thursday before a Monday night game, your opponent
[6:53] Speaker 2: goes out and gets a monster like that?
[6:56] Speaker 4: Yeah, particularly with the changes you're going to have on
[6:59] Speaker 4: the offensive line. So I think, yes, that's a big deal.
[7:03] Speaker 4: And so they have to think about that. You know,
[7:05] Speaker 4: I always, and again, one man's opinion, everyone looks at
[7:09] Speaker 4: the positions differently. But you get one of those stud
[7:13] Speaker 4: defensive linemen, you know, or a Reggie White like we got.
[7:18] Speaker 4: It changes everything. It changes everything. And it does give
[7:23] Speaker 4: the offense you're playing against real problems. They have to
[7:26] Speaker 4: deal with that guy, usually with more than one player.
[7:30] Speaker 4: So I think that's a big deal for the Bears,
[7:32] Speaker 4: and they can plug him in. And, you know, I
[7:35] Speaker 4: told you the story. We played Philadelphia, and I had Reggie.
[7:39] Speaker 4: He played for them all those years. I said, okay,
[7:41] Speaker 4: now you've got to tell me about the calls on defense.
[7:43] Speaker 4: He goes, well, they're either red or black. I go, what?
[7:49] Speaker 4: So it's not too complicated over there. I don't think
[7:51] Speaker 4: it's too complicated over there when you've got a great player.
[7:55] Speaker 5: Coach, what impressed you most about what you see the
[7:57] Speaker 5: Hawks did to your guy Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes?
[8:02] Speaker 4: Well, I think I'll start with Mahomes. I thought a
[8:05] Speaker 4: lot was talked about. You know, their injury situation, their receivers,
[8:10] Speaker 4: and things like that. And Walker was a big story
[8:15] Speaker 4: in the game. But to me, the story that came
[8:18] Speaker 4: was Mahomes. To my count, he missed six plays. He
[8:21] Speaker 4: missed six throws he should have made. I mean, he
[8:24] Speaker 4: should flat out make them. You know, I'm not talking
[8:26] Speaker 4: about being pressured and all that kind of stuff. There
[8:29] Speaker 4: were six throws that he just missed. And so in
[8:32] Speaker 4: a game that close, and, you know, they also missed
[8:35] Speaker 4: two field goals. And so it was a close game.
[8:40] Speaker 4: And so that's going to matter. And so I start
[8:44] Speaker 4: with Mahomes there. But I've got to give the Seahawks credit.
[8:47] Speaker 4: Their defense and what they did against Kenneth Walker and Mahomes,
[8:54] Speaker 4: they really have a fine defense. They really have a
[8:57] Speaker 4: good defense, and they have a really smart defensive head coach.
[9:01] Speaker 4: So you put that together, teams are going to have
[9:03] Speaker 4: trouble scoring a lot of points.
[9:05] Speaker 3: No question.
[9:05] Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren is with us, courtesy of Venue Kings. And
[9:08] Speaker 2: then here we go with another great offensive matchup, defense
[9:11] Speaker 2: versus offense, with Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson walking in here.
[9:15] Speaker 2: And it's funny because, you know, Ben Johnson and who
[9:17] Speaker 2: was the guy from the Texans, their coordinator that was
[9:20] Speaker 2: in the mix, too?
[9:21] Speaker 5: Bobby Slowick.
[9:21] Speaker 3: Bobby Slowick, yeah.
[9:23] Speaker 2: Him and Ben and Mike and all three of those
[9:25] Speaker 2: guys were kind of the hot shot coaches, and two
[9:27] Speaker 2: of them are now– stars and you know in in
[9:29] Speaker 2: a lot of ways in the NFL but what do
[9:32] Speaker 2: you make of Caleb Williams and what he does offensively
[9:36] Speaker 2: as a runner as a thrower Kevin Harlan by the
[9:39] Speaker 2: way uh was on yesterday he says hello uh his
[9:42] Speaker 2: dad's getting honored by the way tonight at the Packer
[9:44] Speaker 2: game Mike so he wanted to let you know how
[9:46] Speaker 2: big a part of yeah that whole thing you were
[9:49] Speaker 2: but Kevin did say yesterday he thinks that Caleb Williams
[9:52] Speaker 2: is the best armed talent to enter the NFL since
[9:55] Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers Which is pretty high praise, right? I mean,
[9:58] Speaker 2: maybe he was just getting all... hyperbolic about it because
[10:01] Speaker 2: he's doing the game Monday but when you watch Caleb
[10:03] Speaker 2: Williams throw he went to your alma mater played quarterback
[10:06] Speaker 2: at USC just like you what do you see from
[10:08] Speaker 2: this guy.
[10:09] Speaker 4: Yeah no he Kevin's right I mean it's it's he
[10:13] Speaker 4: is a gifted athlete physically particularly throwing the ball And
[10:18] Speaker 4: at that position, obviously, I'm stating the obvious, but that's
[10:20] Speaker 4: where you start. You know, you've got to have that.
[10:23] Speaker 4: But then he has the other things, too. You know,
[10:25] Speaker 4: he moves well. He can run. And now he's got
[10:28] Speaker 4: the right coach. The head coach is an offensive thinker,
[10:32] Speaker 4: and he'll get the most out of him. But then
[10:35] Speaker 4: you've got to be smart. You know, I think about quarterbacks,
[10:38] Speaker 4: and I think of, you know, I really like, and
[10:41] Speaker 4: you know this, our quarterback, Sam, I really like him.
[10:44] Speaker 4: But every once in a while, they make a throw,
[10:45] Speaker 4: and I go, don't do that. Don't do that. Live
[10:50] Speaker 4: for another day. And if we can eliminate that on
[10:54] Speaker 4: the offensive side of the ball, then the Seahawks, they're
[10:58] Speaker 4: really going to go places this year.
[11:00] Speaker 5: Greg Cosell today said that Caleb Williams has a lot
[11:04] Speaker 5: of arm arrogance. I thought that was pretty good. There's
[11:07] Speaker 5: not a throw that he doesn't think he can make
[11:10] Speaker 5: on the entire field, but How well does he process
[11:13] Speaker 5: in what you've seen so far? Because if you can't
[11:17] Speaker 5: process against a Mike McDonald defense, you can make a
[11:19] Speaker 5: lot of mistakes.
[11:21] Speaker 4: Well, that would be the challenge, Jack, because, you know,
[11:24] Speaker 4: obviously physically he can do it. We know that. So
[11:28] Speaker 4: now it's, you know, I go back to with Brett Favre. Physically,
[11:31] Speaker 4: he absolutely could do it. Now, to process it, to
[11:35] Speaker 4: your point, to process where to throw, the timing of
[11:39] Speaker 4: the throw. when not to throw, all those things factor in.
[11:43] Speaker 4: And you see young quarterbacks come into the league, and
[11:46] Speaker 4: he's still young. Caleb Williams is a young quarterback. That
[11:49] Speaker 4: takes some time. It really does take some time for
[11:54] Speaker 4: him to reach the best level of processing. And the
[11:59] Speaker 4: Seahawks defense, Mike's defense, gives any quarterback, but any young quarterback, problems.
[12:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering about the running backs Monday night. I mean,
[12:08] Speaker 2: there's a chance we see both Price and Charbonnet. Charbonnet's
[12:12] Speaker 2: coming off the ACL, obviously, and I'm wondering what is
[12:16] Speaker 2: fair to expect from him in his first game back
[12:19] Speaker 2: coming off an injury like that.
[12:22] Speaker 4: You know, that's a great question. I was thinking you
[12:26] Speaker 4: just keep your fingers crossed because it's a bad injury.
[12:28] Speaker 4: He's recovering from a bad injury, and now they've played
[12:34] Speaker 4: it slow, I think. And so now if they say
[12:37] Speaker 4: he's ready, if the doctors say he's ready, then he's ready.
[12:39] Speaker 4: But he hasn't really been hit by anybody. He hasn't
[12:43] Speaker 4: gone into the hole. He hasn't taken any low blows,
[12:47] Speaker 4: you know, for a while. And so how he responds
[12:50] Speaker 4: to that and how his leg responds to that, it'll
[12:53] Speaker 4: be interesting to watch. I would suggest, I don't know,
[12:56] Speaker 4: is Price going to play?
[12:58] Speaker 3: We think so.
[12:59] Speaker 5: We think.
[12:59] Speaker 2: He was limited today in practice. He was out there.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Charbonnet was full go, so we'll see.
[13:04] Speaker 4: There's a chance. Then I suspect they'll balance it off.
[13:09] Speaker 4: No one will get a lot of carries, and they'll
[13:12] Speaker 4: throw in one of those other guys as well. Right.
[13:16] Speaker 5: Coach, Mike McDonald, in the last two weeks, held Sean
[13:19] Speaker 5: Payton to his fewest yards per play ever and then
[13:23] Speaker 5: held Andy Reid out of the red zone for the
[13:25] Speaker 5: first time ever.
[13:27] Speaker 3: Is this guy even better this year than last year?
[13:30] Speaker 5: How do you compare what he's doing in this dark
[13:32] Speaker 5: side defense in 2026? versus what you saw win the
[13:35] Speaker 5: Super Bowl last year?
[13:37] Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think he is right on to say
[13:42] Speaker 4: it's better. It's hard to imagine a better defense than
[13:45] Speaker 4: last year, but his guys, when they're all healthy, when
[13:48] Speaker 4: he has everybody, and him and Uri, you know, he's healthy,
[13:53] Speaker 4: and he's a different cat now. He really makes things happen,
[13:57] Speaker 4: and it allows Mike to do all that crazy stuff
[13:59] Speaker 4: he does. He puts people in different positions. Yeah. And
[14:05] Speaker 4: his players, he's got the players he wants now. You've
[14:09] Speaker 4: got that great defensive line that can apply pressure. He's
[14:12] Speaker 4: got exactly what he wants. And now you couple that
[14:15] Speaker 4: with his mind and how he likes to do stuff.
[14:19] Speaker 4: Teams are going to have trouble scoring. They are going
[14:21] Speaker 4: to be like that all year, I think.
[14:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
[14:24] Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, I want to sneak in a couple of
[14:26] Speaker 2: other football-related questions, but I want to get one on
[14:29] Speaker 2: the Huskies. I don't know how much of this we've
[14:30] Speaker 2: been following. But Huskies played a backup quarterback against Purdue,
[14:34] Speaker 2: and they put up 38 points. Then they had a bye,
[14:37] Speaker 2: and now they're going to Nebraska on Saturday. And I'm
[14:39] Speaker 2: not going to ask you who you think should play
[14:41] Speaker 2: at quarterback on Saturday night, unless you've studied Elijah Brown
[14:44] Speaker 2: and DeMond Williams. Feel free to jump in, by the way.
[14:47] Speaker 2: But Jed Fish is being quiet on it, which I
[14:50] Speaker 2: think is the right move. I mean, why give away anything?
[14:52] Speaker 2: Why let Nebraska know who you're playing? But the question is,
[14:55] Speaker 2: yesterday and today, the team is leaving tomorrow. Do you
[14:59] Speaker 2: honestly think that Jed Fish took the last couple days
[15:02] Speaker 2: at practice before he made that call?
[15:05] Speaker 3: Who's going to start?
[15:06] Speaker 2: Or do you think he's known since Monday or Tuesday
[15:09] Speaker 2: of this week who a starting quarterback is going to
[15:11] Speaker 2: be Saturday?
[15:13] Speaker 4: I think he's known. I think... It's a tough decision
[15:16] Speaker 4: because he really loves it. When I talked to Jeff
[15:19] Speaker 4: and talked to the team that time, that young quarterback,
[15:24] Speaker 4: he loves him. And he really thinks he can take
[15:27] Speaker 4: them to where they need to go. Then the other
[15:30] Speaker 4: guy comes in and plays because the first quarterback got hurt.
[15:35] Speaker 4: But I think he's been thinking about that a lot
[15:37] Speaker 4: and the way he kind of processes things. I think
[15:42] Speaker 4: he knew, but he just wouldn't say it. And I think,
[15:45] Speaker 4: now you guys would know this better than I would,
[15:47] Speaker 4: but they're not the same athlete, are they? They're not
[15:51] Speaker 4: the same player.
[15:51] Speaker 3: No, not at all, no. One guy's a runner, one
[15:54] Speaker 3: guy's more of a pocket passer, right.
[15:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, so he, you know, and it's who you're playing
[15:59] Speaker 4: against and who he feels, he'd like nothing better, I think,
[16:02] Speaker 4: than to get the starter back in there after the
[16:05] Speaker 4: injury because he thinks the world of him. But he's
[16:08] Speaker 4: a smart guy, and he's going to go with whoever
[16:10] Speaker 4: he thinks is ready to play against the team he's
[16:14] Speaker 4: going to play and what they're good at. Are they
[16:17] Speaker 4: good at stopping the run? Are they good in pass
[16:19] Speaker 4: defense and so on? But he knows.
[16:21] Speaker 5: Coach, I don't know if you heard, but June Jones
[16:24] Speaker 5: passed away today, and he was in the NFL for
[16:27] Speaker 5: a decade when you were coaching with the Packers and
[16:32] Speaker 5: actually right before the Seahawks, so mainly just with the Packers.
[16:34] Speaker 3: How well did you know him?
[16:36] Speaker 4: I knew him very well. He was a good guy.
[16:40] Speaker 4: We talked. at the meetings, as you might expect, you know,
[16:43] Speaker 4: all the coaches kind of get together at times. And
[16:46] Speaker 4: an excellent offensive coach. Excellent offensive coach. We played them
[16:50] Speaker 4: in a playoff game when he was at Atlanta. And
[16:54] Speaker 4: in Green Bay, fortunately we got him in Green Bay,
[16:56] Speaker 4: so that always helped. But, you know, he's a good guy.
[17:00] Speaker 4: And really, you know, the run and shoot with Jerry Glenn,
[17:04] Speaker 4: he was kind of the guy who did that. And
[17:08] Speaker 4: caused a lot of defensive consternation in the league when
[17:12] Speaker 4: he came in. So, no, I had heard that, and,
[17:17] Speaker 4: you know, now that I'm getting a little bit older,
[17:19] Speaker 4: every day there's someone kind of my age that I
[17:23] Speaker 4: know that's passed on, and a good guy. I really
[17:27] Speaker 4: liked him a lot.
[17:28] Speaker 2: Well, you know, or you knew, sorry, Bob Harlan, Kevin's dad,
[17:32] Speaker 2: who died in March five months ago.
[17:35] Speaker 3: He was 89 years old.
[17:37] Speaker 2: And he's going into the Ring of Honor tonight at
[17:39] Speaker 2: Lambeau Field, which is a huge honor for him. He's
[17:41] Speaker 2: only the second non-player to get that distinction. I think
[17:45] Speaker 2: Ted Thompson's the first one, so he's got that tonight.
[17:48] Speaker 2: And then you're going to raise the flag on Monday
[17:50] Speaker 2: night at the Bears game at Lumen Field. But, I mean,
[17:54] Speaker 2: before we carry this game, and Kevin was on with
[17:56] Speaker 2: us yesterday talking about his dad and said he hired you.
[17:59] Speaker 3: In Green Bay.
[18:00] Speaker 2: What are your memories of working with Bob Harlan before
[18:02] Speaker 2: the Packers honor him tonight?
[18:04] Speaker 4: Well, he was in stark contrast to some of the
[18:11] Speaker 4: front office people I worked with later on. But he
[18:14] Speaker 4: was president of the Packers, and the Packers are unique
[18:16] Speaker 4: because there's no owner. So Bob was kind of in
[18:21] Speaker 4: charge of the business side of it and really the team.
[18:26] Speaker 4: And he could have, but he never did. Ron and
[18:28] Speaker 4: I ran it. But he'd come into the office. I'd
[18:31] Speaker 4: see him once every other day. And he'd go, what
[18:34] Speaker 4: do you need? And he'd say that. What can I
[18:37] Speaker 4: do for you? How can I make it better for you?
[18:40] Speaker 4: And then he had a great personality. He was funny.
[18:43] Speaker 4: In my first chance of being a head coach, I
[18:49] Speaker 4: couldn't have asked for a better setup than when I
[18:52] Speaker 4: went into Green Bay.
[18:53] Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
[18:55] Speaker 2: Well, you'll be able to watch that tonight on TV.
[18:58] Speaker 2: Unless you don't have Amazon. Do you have Amazon, by
[18:59] Speaker 2: the way?
[19:01] Speaker 4: I got it all. I got it all. Good.
[19:02] Speaker 3: There we go. Perfect. All right. Well, you need any
[19:04] Speaker 3: help with that, sign up. Let us know. We'll come
[19:05] Speaker 3: over and take care of it for you.
[19:07] Speaker 4: All right?
[19:07] Speaker 3: We'll have you do it.
[19:08] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[19:09] Speaker 3: I know sometimes tech can be hard, man, for sure.
[19:11] Speaker 3: For me, it is. All right. Mike, hey, listen, great stuff,
[19:15] Speaker 3: and we'll see you next week. All right? Thanks, Coach.
[19:17] Speaker 4: All right, guys. Take care.
[19:18] Speaker 3: All right.
[19:18] Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren with us, courtesy of our friends at Venue Kings,
[19:21] Speaker 2: looking for tickets for the game on Monday night. Ticket
[19:24] Speaker 2: prices are dropping to just over $ 300 now to get
[19:27] Speaker 2: in the door.
[19:27] Speaker 3: Still pricey, but they're coming down.
[19:29] Speaker 2: Use code Mike at checkout for a discount for tickets
[19:32] Speaker 2: for the Seahawks or any game, any sporting event, any
[19:35] Speaker 2: concert at VenueKings.com. And always use code Mike at checkout
[19:39] Speaker 2: for a discount. What do you say we hear from
[19:40] Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson? The brand-new Seahawk guard spoke to the media today.
[19:44] Speaker 2: We're going to hear what he had to say next
[19:46] Speaker 2: from the 520 Bar and Grill on 93.3 KJRFM.

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