# Husky Honks on the Minnesota Loss, Looking Ahead to USC

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 30 Sep 2026, 40 min.

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In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler is joined by Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey for the Husky Honks as the guys dissect the UW loss to Minnesota, talk about how to fix the run game and how Demond Williams must run outside the pocket more. Then the gang talks about what the Huskies must do to beat USC on Saturday. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

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[0:20] Speaker 3: up on the Astros 5-2 in the top of the
[0:22] Speaker 3: sixth and game one of the A.O.
[0:24] Speaker 2: Wildcard. One A.O.
[0:26] Speaker 3: Wildcard is in the books. Austin Riley with a home
[0:28] Speaker 3: run in.
[0:29] Speaker 2: The eighth off.
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[2:23] Speaker 3: Here we go on a busy Tuesday afternoon right here
[2:26] Speaker 3: on 93.3 KJRFM. I cannot tell you how excited I am. Thrilled,
[2:30] Speaker 3: overjoyed to be talking Husky football with my two buddies,
[2:34] Speaker 3: Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey with us on the radio program. Guys,
[2:39] Speaker 3: we have a clip to describe what happened Saturday against Minnesota.
[2:42] Speaker 2: Yeah. There it is right there. Ten and a half
[2:46] Speaker 2: point favorites.
[2:47] Speaker 3: I don't know this time a week ago if I
[2:49] Speaker 3: would have told you, Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey, that
[2:52] Speaker 3: Washington would lose to P.J. Fleck and Drake Lindsey and
[2:56] Speaker 3: for the most part get pretty beat up in the process,
[2:59] Speaker 3: by the way. I think all of us would have
[3:01] Speaker 3: been a little bit surprised by that. 3-1 is not
[3:04] Speaker 3: where we thought this football team was going to be,
[3:06] Speaker 3: yet here we are, baby.
[3:07] Speaker 2: 3-1.
[3:09] Speaker 3: So let's go around the room and just get a
[3:10] Speaker 3: kind of a little bit of a check-in. Mario, we'll
[3:14] Speaker 3: start with you.
[3:14] Speaker 2: You're the youngest. You're the prettiest. Oh, man.
[3:17] Speaker 3: On where this Husky football team is at after four games, man.
[3:19] Speaker 5: There's no prettiness in me, thank you very much. My
[3:22] Speaker 5: mom said I'm not pretty, so I'm not pretty. But
[3:25] Speaker 5: I will say, we wouldn't have been totally shocked. I
[3:28] Speaker 5: think the first three games, the sample size, we kind
[3:31] Speaker 5: of thought that it's a possibility. We knew we weren't
[3:34] Speaker 5: 10-point favorites. You look at the offense, you know, we
[3:37] Speaker 5: can't keep coming out in the first quarter and not
[3:40] Speaker 5: doing anything. I think they jumped on us, but we
[3:43] Speaker 5: can't get it started offensively.
[3:45] Speaker 2: Our line just looked horrible.
[3:47] Speaker 5: We didn't have 25 rushing yards between our two running backs.
[3:52] Speaker 2: We got sacked seven times. Our offensive line is killing us.
[3:56] Speaker 5: But also, I think we don't have any physicality and
[3:59] Speaker 5: we don't have any creativity on Coach Fish's part. Like
[4:02] Speaker 5: on our third downs, Me and Greg watched a few routes.
[4:06] Speaker 5: These guys are just running fade routes. A fade route
[4:08] Speaker 5: is not what you're trying to run on third down.
[4:11] Speaker 5: You can't run play action when you can't run the ball. Offensively,
[4:15] Speaker 5: we can't throw the ball downfield, so we struggled totally offensively. Defensively,
[4:20] Speaker 5: if you look at it, that's the first time a
[4:22] Speaker 5: team got after us offensively. They kept going to the
[4:25] Speaker 5: bubble screen and they had the three receivers lined up
[4:28] Speaker 5: and they just do different variations of that. And it's
[4:31] Speaker 5: the first time I saw our two freshmen. They look
[4:33] Speaker 5: like freshmen. They were getting dominated on the line. They
[4:36] Speaker 5: couldn't do anything. Their line did a great job against
[4:40] Speaker 5: our defense. We got absolutely zero pressure. And they went
[4:44] Speaker 5: after us. That quarterback sat back there. He might have
[4:46] Speaker 5: been 14-14 or 13-13 to start the game. He just
[4:50] Speaker 5: picked us apart. If it wasn't for his one mistake
[4:53] Speaker 5: that he threw the interception, they kind of dominated his
[4:56] Speaker 5: offense and defensively for the game.
[4:59] Speaker 2: Well, the show's over. Mario, just book everything down.
[5:01] Speaker 3: See you later. Ball 30 pregame show Saturday from USC.
[5:06] Speaker 2: Back to your original question.
[5:07] Speaker 6: Before the game, I think that this was a possibility.
[5:11] Speaker 6: I think having said all the things Mario said, coming
[5:14] Speaker 6: into this game, was it high on what our offense
[5:18] Speaker 6: had been producing the first three weeks? So I think
[5:20] Speaker 6: all of us were skeptical on what we would be
[5:22] Speaker 6: able to do once we got into Big Ten play.
[5:24] Speaker 6: We said many times, if you can't run the ball
[5:26] Speaker 6: in the Big Ten, you're in trouble. What I didn't
[5:28] Speaker 6: think was we would be in trouble against Minnesota. I
[5:32] Speaker 6: wasn't really believing that Minnesota would come into Husky Stadium
[5:37] Speaker 6: with a blackout and hopefully a packed house, which it
[5:40] Speaker 6: didn't turn out necessarily to be, but with a motivated
[5:43] Speaker 6: Washington team who, for all intents and purposes, is getting
[5:48] Speaker 6: a little.
[5:48] Speaker 2: More confidence after the first couple weeks, a little healthier.
[5:51] Speaker 6: I didn't think Minnesota would come in and win, and
[5:55] Speaker 6: let alone really out-physical us, dominate the football game, as
[5:59] Speaker 6: Mario eloquently said, with Just one mistake being made by
[6:03] Speaker 6: their quarterback gave us some hope at the end, although
[6:05] Speaker 6: they snuffed that out pretty quickly. I thought the Huskies
[6:09] Speaker 6: would be able to find a way. To get by Minnesota.
[6:12] Speaker 1: Right.
[6:13] Speaker 6: You know, from what I've seen from them earlier in
[6:16] Speaker 6: the year and the first couple of games. But I'll
[6:19] Speaker 6: say this. Having said all of that, I continue to
[6:23] Speaker 6: believe if we can't run the football and we're going
[6:26] Speaker 6: to try to be a drop back passing type of team.
[6:29] Speaker 1: Right.
[6:29] Speaker 6: With our quarterback who has a lot of shortcomings, pun intended.
[6:33] Speaker 6: that we are going to be in trouble the rest
[6:36] Speaker 6: of the season. This is not an offensive team right
[6:41] Speaker 6: now that can win the way they're trying to win
[6:43] Speaker 6: football games.
[6:44] Speaker 2: I don't care who you line up against us.
[6:46] Speaker 6: So we're going to have to do something drastically different
[6:49] Speaker 6: if we're expecting this team to get better.
[6:51] Speaker 3: Okay, well, what is that? Because their running game is atrocious.
[6:55] Speaker 3: I mean, there's no question about that. They had five
[6:58] Speaker 3: yards rushing from their running backs in the second half,
[7:00] Speaker 3: as in one, two, three, four, five.
[7:01] Speaker 2: That's it. Right. Brian Bonner, Trey Cooley.
[7:04] Speaker 3: You mentioned, I think, on Saturday's postgame that you're done
[7:07] Speaker 3: with Trey Cooley.
[7:08] Speaker 1: Right.
[7:08] Speaker 2: Trey Cooley. Forget about it. You know, go. I've seen
[7:11] Speaker 2: enough from Trey Cooley. You've seen enough.
[7:12] Speaker 3: So it's Brian Bonner. It's Ansu Sano. It's Daman Williams. So,
[7:17] Speaker 3: you know, like Rick Neuheisel has been on this show
[7:19] Speaker 3: and he is, I think, sarcastically, although I'm not certain.
[7:22] Speaker 3: We'll find out Thursday.
[7:23] Speaker 2: You should.
[7:24] Speaker 3: Recommended option football. How do you do that when you
[7:27] Speaker 3: haven't practiced at all year long?
[7:29] Speaker 6: So I would not agree with the fact that they
[7:32] Speaker 6: should run option football in the traditional sense of option
[7:35] Speaker 6: that he coached with Marcus Tiasisopo.
[7:37] Speaker 2: What I would say is.
[7:39] Speaker 6: We, and even more so than what Mario recommended two
[7:43] Speaker 6: games ago, you got to just turn DeMond loose and make.
[7:47] Speaker 2: Him a different type of quarterback. Yeah.
[7:49] Speaker 6: He's got to be a Kyler Murray running around, getting
[7:52] Speaker 6: outside of the pocket, read zones, design quarterback draws. We've
[7:58] Speaker 6: got to go ahead and use him until he's used up.
[8:02] Speaker 2: And, yes, that's going to put him at risk. He
[8:05] Speaker 2: might get injured. He might get hurt.
[8:06] Speaker 6: But that is the only way we are going to
[8:08] Speaker 6: have an opportunity to win, regardless of— his inability to
[8:13] Speaker 6: lead this team from the pocket, he is still going
[8:16] Speaker 6: to be probably the best athlete on the field every
[8:19] Speaker 6: time we line up or close to it. And so
[8:21] Speaker 6: we got to get all of that athleticism, all the speed,
[8:25] Speaker 6: everything we can out of him in order to be
[8:28] Speaker 6: effective offensively. Mario said, you can't run play action if
[8:31] Speaker 6: you can't run the ball, right? No one's going for
[8:33] Speaker 6: our play action. He can't drop back in the pocket
[8:36] Speaker 6: and throw over six foot five offensive line. He's never
[8:40] Speaker 6: been good at that. Mario's been talking about for three years.
[8:42] Speaker 6: He's not a deep passer of the quarterback. And that's
[8:44] Speaker 6: because he can't see over the line. And frankly, getting
[8:47] Speaker 6: to his third read, if need be, is nearly impossible
[8:50] Speaker 6: right now because he's running out of the pocket.
[8:53] Speaker 2: Why is he here? Why is he here again? Why
[8:55] Speaker 2: is he making four million? I mean, I'm not trying
[8:58] Speaker 2: to be a smart ass, but why is he here?
[8:59] Speaker 6: Again, that is the coaches who decided that. And if
[9:04] Speaker 6: you take him like last year and you put him
[9:06] Speaker 6: in a situation where he's got a really good offensive line,
[9:08] Speaker 6: he's got a really good run game, he's got big, tall,
[9:11] Speaker 6: wide receivers, he can be effective. But when you strip
[9:15] Speaker 6: away all that and it's just on him. He's not
[9:19] Speaker 6: going to win as a deep throwing quarterback. The only
[9:22] Speaker 6: way he's going to win when you strip away all
[9:24] Speaker 6: of that is a guy running around making plays, making
[9:27] Speaker 6: guys miss, you know, having a super athletic play, making
[9:31] Speaker 6: something out of nothing.
[9:33] Speaker 2: And, you know, you're going to have to put him
[9:35] Speaker 2: in peril at that point. Yeah.
[9:36] Speaker 5: Right.
[9:37] Speaker 2: And you know what?
[9:38] Speaker 6: If he gets hurt in week six, but we won
[9:40] Speaker 6: three games because of it, you got out of him
[9:42] Speaker 6: what you could get out of him. But I can
[9:43] Speaker 6: tell you right now, we are not going to win
[9:46] Speaker 6: football games again. with this team that cannot run the
[9:49] Speaker 6: ball by dropping DeMond Williams back in the pocket trying
[9:54] Speaker 6: to throw down the field.
[9:55] Speaker 2: Not going to win games that way.
[9:56] Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Coach is kind of joking, but we
[10:00] Speaker 5: should have an option package in. What Greg said is
[10:04] Speaker 5: absolutely right. We have to figure, because you're asking, why
[10:07] Speaker 5: is he here? We gave this young man $ 4 million,
[10:09] Speaker 5: and people keep saying, let's wait, let's wait. We can't
[10:13] Speaker 5: put him in harm's way. Yes, we can. We can
[10:15] Speaker 5: put him in harm's way right now. We need to
[10:17] Speaker 5: figure out how to get him to ball more, whether
[10:19] Speaker 5: that's the option, whether that's rolling out. What it is,
[10:23] Speaker 5: he has to do something. We can't win with drop-back
[10:26] Speaker 5: passing and not using our running backs. This past game,
[10:31] Speaker 5: they blitzed him. They were coming after him. They were
[10:33] Speaker 5: bringing backers. They were bringing safeties. They did everything. The
[10:37] Speaker 5: worst part is they got three sacks in the fourth quarter.
[10:40] Speaker 5: I don't think he could read it. He didn't know
[10:42] Speaker 5: where it was coming from. And we weren't calling the
[10:45] Speaker 5: correct plays to put him in position to make plays.
[10:48] Speaker 2: They were coming straight after us.
[10:50] Speaker 5: And what Greg said, too, like, I didn't expect that
[10:52] Speaker 5: to be Minnesota, but they had our number. And Coach
[10:55] Speaker 5: Fish is not calling the plays and putting DeMond in
[10:57] Speaker 5: position to to make plays that he should be making.
[11:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, I just, I mean, look, this is, the running
[11:03] Speaker 3: game is going to be a problem all year, right?
[11:05] Speaker 3: There is no running game. But you have to try. Like,
[11:08] Speaker 3: you got to give them the ball. Like I said before, like,
[11:10] Speaker 3: let's try and give them the ball. You don't call
[11:13] Speaker 3: them play action. You're not giving them the ball.
[11:15] Speaker 2: To call play action.
[11:16] Speaker 3: When you say give that, are you talking about Bonner?
[11:18] Speaker 6: Bonner.
[11:19] Speaker 5: Okay, so you want to see. I want to see
[11:21] Speaker 5: them at least try and run the ball. We're not
[11:24] Speaker 5: even giving it an effort. Look at how many rushes
[11:26] Speaker 5: we had. like try and run the ball. I mean,
[11:28] Speaker 5: I understand this game, we got behind 14 to nothing,
[11:31] Speaker 5: but you have to try and run the ball. You
[11:33] Speaker 5: have to have some type of intimidation factor, like at
[11:36] Speaker 5: least they're going to try.
[11:37] Speaker 3: They ran the ball 11 times with their backs. 11 times.
[11:41] Speaker 3: In a game that was, you know, it wasn't a blowout,
[11:44] Speaker 3: but it was winnable, fairly close within striking distance.
[11:47] Speaker 2: You're telling me.
[11:48] Speaker 3: That as bad as these guys have looked when they
[11:50] Speaker 3: touch the ball, you want to see them touch the
[11:52] Speaker 3: ball more? At least 20 times.
[11:54] Speaker 2: At least 20 times. Yeah. You know, it's tough.
[11:58] Speaker 6: And the reason I say it's tough is, you know,
[12:00] Speaker 6: I'm an old running back. And I know it takes
[12:03] Speaker 6: time for a running back sometimes to get in the groove,
[12:06] Speaker 6: you know, to, you know, physically punish the defense a
[12:10] Speaker 6: little bit so he can't make a guy miss. He
[12:12] Speaker 6: can't break a tackle and all those kinds of things.
[12:15] Speaker 6: One of the struggles I have, though, is I haven't
[12:18] Speaker 6: seen any dynamic plays, any quick twitch plays. real fast move,
[12:25] Speaker 6: anything explosive out of our running backs in the opportunities
[12:29] Speaker 6: that they have.
[12:30] Speaker 2: And granted, they haven't had that many.
[12:32] Speaker 6: So I get what Mario's saying, and I'm not going
[12:34] Speaker 6: to argue that point because it might, but I do
[12:37] Speaker 6: believe it's going to be fruitless. I believe that if
[12:40] Speaker 6: we do give them the ball 20 times, we'll end
[12:43] Speaker 6: up with 45 yards of rushing on 20 carries. And
[12:48] Speaker 6: it's not all on them. You know, I don't think
[12:50] Speaker 6: this offensive line is physical in their capacity.
[12:53] Speaker 2: In their technique.
[12:55] Speaker 6: I know individuals can be physical, but the way we're running,
[12:58] Speaker 6: we're not running a physical brand and technique of blocking
[13:01] Speaker 6: and football. And typically these guys can get what's there,
[13:05] Speaker 6: what's given to them. I don't see them making a
[13:07] Speaker 6: lot of guys miss. I don't see them, you know, um,
[13:10] Speaker 6: really running guys over, being powerful, or anything like that.
[13:14] Speaker 6: So I think tomorrow's, yeah, maybe 15 to 17 carries
[13:19] Speaker 6: and tune it up a little bit, but I just
[13:21] Speaker 6: don't think we're going to have a ton of success
[13:22] Speaker 6: running the football.
[13:23] Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like we're kind of desperate right now, right,
[13:26] Speaker 3: that we're just grasping at straws. You know, is there
[13:29] Speaker 3: possibly something that could work here? If you even ran
[13:33] Speaker 3: the ball remotely a bit more, would that potentially get
[13:36] Speaker 3: teams to– Respect it. I mean, the fourth quarter of
[13:39] Speaker 3: that game, guys, and you saw the same thing I did.
[13:42] Speaker 3: I'm down there on the sideline, and Minnesota couldn't give
[13:45] Speaker 3: a damn about the Husky run game. They are just
[13:48] Speaker 3: teeing off on DeMond Williams. I'm surprised the guy could
[13:51] Speaker 3: get up and walk after that game, to be totally
[13:53] Speaker 3: honest with you. And you know that is where that
[13:55] Speaker 3: would go. I mean, both of you have basically admitted it,
[13:58] Speaker 3: that you're willing to run DeMond more, and if it
[14:02] Speaker 3: ends up in DeMond getting banged up, then so be it.
[14:05] Speaker 1: Right.
[14:05] Speaker 3: And maybe that is a commentary about college football in
[14:08] Speaker 3: 2026 when a guy's making four million. You would never
[14:11] Speaker 3: have said that 30 years ago about a kid.
[14:14] Speaker 2: And a student athlete. Let's put him in harm's way.
[14:17] Speaker 3: But we're talking about Devon Williams like we talk about
[14:19] Speaker 3: pro quarterbacks now.
[14:20] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[14:20] Speaker 6: Well, DeMond Williams will make more money in college than
[14:23] Speaker 6: the majority of these guys who go pro.
[14:25] Speaker 2: He's making more than Drew Locke's making right now.
[14:27] Speaker 4: Exactly.
[14:28] Speaker 2: OK, right now.
[14:28] Speaker 6: So so that's my point. He's a professional athlete. And
[14:32] Speaker 6: being a professional athlete, you have to treat him as such.
[14:35] Speaker 6: He's going to go out there and you're paying him
[14:37] Speaker 6: four million. He's got to go out there and put
[14:40] Speaker 6: himself on the line, as we all do and all did.
[14:43] Speaker 6: But some of us put ourselves on the line.
[14:45] Speaker 2: For zero money. For nothing.
[14:47] Speaker 6: I left my knee out there on the 27-yard line somewhere,
[14:51] Speaker 6: and I didn't get paid a dime for that. And
[14:53] Speaker 6: so injuries are part of the game, and now that
[14:55] Speaker 6: you're getting paid for it, then you become someone who
[14:59] Speaker 6: has to go out there and lay it on the line.
[15:00] Speaker 6: But I just think– I'm saying this more from the perspective, Softie.
[15:04] Speaker 6: There is no other dynamic way we are going to
[15:08] Speaker 6: turn our offense into something with how we're playing right
[15:12] Speaker 6: now because we don't have the pieces at running back.
[15:15] Speaker 6: We have some really good wide receivers, no doubt. I
[15:18] Speaker 6: believe that those guys are talented. But we don't have
[15:21] Speaker 6: a Jeremiah Smith type of guy or the guy down
[15:24] Speaker 6: in Miami or.
[15:25] Speaker 2: Something like that.
[15:26] Speaker 6: And we don't have the quarterback who can drop back
[15:30] Speaker 6: in the pocket. stand there with guys barreling down on
[15:34] Speaker 6: him and complete the pass down the field to those guys.
[15:37] Speaker 6: Even if they do get open consistently, you don't have
[15:41] Speaker 6: the guy who can do that. So I think having
[15:43] Speaker 6: said that, it always goes down to playing with the
[15:46] Speaker 6: hand you're dealt. You know, you got to use the
[15:48] Speaker 6: pieces that you have to the best of their talent
[15:50] Speaker 6: and skill set.
[15:51] Speaker 2: I think.
[15:52] Speaker 6: Demands talent and skill set and ability lend more towards
[15:55] Speaker 6: the quarterback yeah rpos how about that how about read
[15:59] Speaker 6: zones how about quarterback draws how about getting them outside
[16:03] Speaker 6: of the pocket and design rollouts not counting on them
[16:06] Speaker 6: to go for the off tackle fake and roll out
[16:09] Speaker 6: because they're not going for that yeah but you design
[16:11] Speaker 6: your protections so that he can roll out to the
[16:14] Speaker 6: right or to the left and protect him that way
[16:17] Speaker 6: and get him throwing the ball outside of the pocket.
[16:19] Speaker 2: Well, Mario, here's the problem.
[16:20] Speaker 3: So the problem is that if you do this and
[16:23] Speaker 3: you start to change your offense, you're going to have
[16:25] Speaker 3: to get comfortable with it as soon as possible. And
[16:28] Speaker 3: that means practicing it this week. That means this Saturday
[16:31] Speaker 3: against USC. The longer you wait, the more it's going
[16:33] Speaker 3: to be difficult to pull it off. Maybe this is
[16:36] Speaker 3: the week against USC. I was looking at some numbers.
[16:38] Speaker 3: They're 54th in the country in rush D, 100th in
[16:41] Speaker 3: scoring D, 94th in third down D. They have three
[16:44] Speaker 3: picks in four games, and they've only got, what, nine
[16:46] Speaker 3: sacks in the first four games.
[16:48] Speaker 2: Of the year.
[16:48] Speaker 3: Maybe this is the week that the offense gets going again.
[16:53] Speaker 3: The question is, can they survive against Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana, Oregon,
[16:58] Speaker 3: the rest of the way?
[16:59] Speaker 2: You know Jed, do you think he would do.
[17:01] Speaker 3: What Greg's talking about doing, what you're talking about doing?
[17:04] Speaker 3: This is a guy who has been adamant. We're not
[17:06] Speaker 3: going to put our quarterback in harm's way. We asked
[17:09] Speaker 3: him two weeks ago, are you ready to start calling
[17:11] Speaker 3: more design runs for DeMond?
[17:13] Speaker 2: No, we're not doing that. You think he does that?
[17:17] Speaker 2: You think DeMond Williams.
[17:18] Speaker 3: goes to DeMond Williams' mom and says, we're going to
[17:21] Speaker 3: run your quarterback into the ground, and we don't care
[17:25] Speaker 3: if he gets hurt.
[17:26] Speaker 2: No, coach is not going to do that.
[17:27] Speaker 5: I'm sure there was some promises made and he has
[17:30] Speaker 5: love for the young man, but you got to have
[17:32] Speaker 5: love for the program. And DeMond Williams is our best
[17:36] Speaker 5: offensive weapon. So you have to come up with a
[17:38] Speaker 5: different game plan than what you've had, whether that's rollout passes,
[17:42] Speaker 5: like I said, an option package, more design runs.
[17:46] Speaker 2: The young man has to touch the ball more effectively.
[17:49] Speaker 5: In any capacity because he is the one that stirs
[17:52] Speaker 5: the drink. He is the man. Like, we pay this
[17:55] Speaker 5: man $ 4 million. There is nothing else to wait for.
[17:58] Speaker 5: Our playoff hopes went down with Minnesota last week. We're
[18:02] Speaker 5: trying to fight for everything we have. Why wouldn't you
[18:05] Speaker 5: figure out ways to get this dynamic young man the ball?
[18:09] Speaker 5: He is not a drop back passer. So Coach Fish
[18:11] Speaker 5: loves to drop back pass. He likes the cute style.
[18:15] Speaker 5: We don't have that. We don't have the weapons for that.
[18:17] Speaker 5: DeMond Williams is the type of player that he needs
[18:19] Speaker 5: the weapons besides him. Like he can go to LSU.
[18:23] Speaker 5: You got all these receivers. You got this tight end.
[18:25] Speaker 5: You got these running backs. That's a system he can
[18:27] Speaker 5: fit in. But right now we need him to play
[18:29] Speaker 5: Michael Vick style like there's nobody else around him and
[18:33] Speaker 5: he has to make the plays.
[18:34] Speaker 3: Well, I think what you said, Greg, and I love that,
[18:36] Speaker 3: by the way, Mario, you said, Greg, that even if
[18:38] Speaker 3: they would do all this that and run the ball more,
[18:42] Speaker 3: it's not going to bear fruit.
[18:43] Speaker 1: Right.
[18:43] Speaker 3: We just kind of know where this is going. Even
[18:46] Speaker 3: with Quade Card and Jay Lamar, if those guys had
[18:48] Speaker 3: been healthy, it may not have made that big of
[18:50] Speaker 3: a difference. Are you guys sitting here in front of
[18:53] Speaker 3: me now, honestly, thinking that these guys are just cooked?
[18:58] Speaker 2: They're cooked. When you say cooked, you mean? They don't
[19:00] Speaker 2: have the personnel to do this.
[19:02] Speaker 3: To be in the playoff conversation in November like we
[19:05] Speaker 3: thought they would be a year ago if they'd beaten Wisconsin. Yeah.
[19:08] Speaker 2: Like, forget it. Yeah.
[19:09] Speaker 6: I think at the beginning of the year, you know,
[19:11] Speaker 6: we had a conversation, maybe the first Tuesday we talked about,
[19:15] Speaker 6: and I made a statement. I said, in order for
[19:17] Speaker 6: these guys to make the playoffs, they're going to have
[19:20] Speaker 6: to go into the last two games of the season 9-1.
[19:23] Speaker 2: At the playoffs. Bare minimum.
[19:26] Speaker 6: And win one of those games against Oregon. And I
[19:28] Speaker 6: didn't see that. And obviously, I don't think they're a
[19:31] Speaker 6: playoff quality team. Did I think that we might be
[19:34] Speaker 6: sitting here talking about how do we manifest a 30-point
[19:38] Speaker 6: game at least once the rest of the year?
[19:40] Speaker 2: No.
[19:40] Speaker 6: But I didn't think we had what it was going
[19:42] Speaker 6: to take in order to navigate that tough, tough Big
[19:46] Speaker 6: Ten schedule. We played two of the best teams in
[19:48] Speaker 6: the country right down the stretch. Now you got to
[19:50] Speaker 6: navigate all of those games in between that you can't
[19:53] Speaker 6: have a bad day in order to you can maybe
[19:55] Speaker 6: have one bad day. And we've already had one. Minnesota
[19:58] Speaker 6: was certainly one of the wins I was counting.
[20:00] Speaker 2: Right.
[20:00] Speaker 6: So now you've got to beat USC on the road.
[20:03] Speaker 6: You've got to go down and win in Michigan State.
[20:05] Speaker 6: You've got to go win in Nebraska. You've got to
[20:07] Speaker 6: beat Penn State coming in here. You've got to beat
[20:09] Speaker 6: a really good Iowa team right now that's going to
[20:11] Speaker 6: come here in two weeks. So do you end up
[20:14] Speaker 6: with Minnesota causing you to have three losses in a row?
[20:17] Speaker 2: Right.
[20:18] Speaker 6: I mean, that to me, we should stop, and nor
[20:21] Speaker 6: was I ever really prepared to talk about this team
[20:24] Speaker 6: being a playoff team. I thought 9-3 was the ceiling.
[20:27] Speaker 6: 8-4 was probably most likely. outside chance if we stub
[20:32] Speaker 6: our toes to go seven and five now it's like
[20:34] Speaker 6: man seven and five eight and four might be the
[20:36] Speaker 6: ceiling six and six is a possibility yeah no we're
[20:39] Speaker 6: cooked but i thought i thought we were like a
[20:41] Speaker 6: ten and two team uh nine and three would be
[20:44] Speaker 6: a bad season but um we're cooked right now i
[20:47] Speaker 6: don't see any capacity that we we make the playoffs
[20:51] Speaker 6: like i'm hoping that we're bowl eligible but Like, we're
[20:54] Speaker 6: in an uphill battle.
[20:55] Speaker 2: We don't have any weapons.
[20:56] Speaker 5: Like, if you're running the ball, and you said, well,
[20:58] Speaker 5: we had five rushing yards in the second half.
[21:01] Speaker 2: That's right, from your backs. Yeah, that's absolutely ridiculous.
[21:04] Speaker 5: It's ridiculous that we gave up seven sacks, and we
[21:07] Speaker 5: gave a quarterback with that capacity at Minnesota. He looked
[21:11] Speaker 5: like he was Tom Brady out there.
[21:12] Speaker 2: He gave up seven sacks to Minnesota.
[21:14] Speaker 5: Yeah, we're absolutely cooked, and I just think we have
[21:18] Speaker 5: to fight for the season now. And like I said,
[21:22] Speaker 5: At the beginning, I didn't even think our defense played
[21:24] Speaker 5: that well. And our defense has been our staple the
[21:26] Speaker 5: past few years. And they didn't play well. Here's a
[21:29] Speaker 5: chance I give them, Softie. There's something called pride.
[21:31] Speaker 6: There's something called, you know, not giving up even though
[21:36] Speaker 6: you're in a bad situation as a team. You have
[21:39] Speaker 6: to find some way, and that's, again, I'm starting with
[21:42] Speaker 6: Coach Fish. You've got to do something different. To do
[21:45] Speaker 6: things the same way, to expect different results is the
[21:47] Speaker 6: definition of insanity. You've heard that many times. We've got
[21:50] Speaker 6: to change what we're doing offensively because that's where the
[21:53] Speaker 6: biggest problem is. We've got to change something, and these
[21:55] Speaker 6: guys have got to have some pride and come out
[21:57] Speaker 6: and play. Well, let's come back and talk about that.
[21:59] Speaker 6: A lot of conversation about the quarterback.
[22:01] Speaker 2: How about the head coach? How about the scheme? How
[22:03] Speaker 2: about the game plan?
[22:03] Speaker 3: How about the clock management Saturday versus Minnesota? All that
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[22:56] Speaker 3: of winners in the Delta Hangout. Carrie and her boyfriend,
[23:01] Speaker 3: I believe Neil, is that right, is here with us today?
[23:03] Speaker 2: Or is it Jerry?
[23:04] Speaker 3: I'm not sure, I forgot. Congratulations, gang, for coming down.
[23:07] Speaker 3: They got Taco Time. They got Simply Seattle. And they
[23:09] Speaker 3: got a chance to hang out with Mario and Greg.
[23:11] Speaker 3: They actually told me they said the biggest reason why
[23:13] Speaker 3: we're here is to see Mario Bailey.
[23:15] Speaker 2: So big honor for them to hang out with it.
[23:18] Speaker 3: I think Jerry said, or is it Gary, the fifth
[23:21] Speaker 3: best wide receiver in Husky football history.
[23:23] Speaker 6: He's the only wide receiver in Husky history that has
[23:26] Speaker 6: his own T-shirt with his own picture on it.
[23:28] Speaker 5: He's the only receiver in Husky history that still holds
[23:32] Speaker 5: the records 35, 36 years later.
[23:34] Speaker 2: The question is, did you have a baby in college, though?
[23:37] Speaker 2: Only Greg. Okay.
[23:40] Speaker 6: You have to get off this. My daughter is feeling
[23:42] Speaker 6: some kind of way. You guys are trying to make
[23:43] Speaker 6: it like her being born is a bad thing.
[23:46] Speaker 7: No, no, no.
[23:47] Speaker 6: She's the most beautiful blessing I ever had.
[23:50] Speaker 2: Wonderful person. Fantastic lady. Mario, your thoughts on the run game.
[23:54] Speaker 2: Greg had a baby.
[23:55] Speaker 5: And then he tried to get us to.
[23:59] Speaker 2: Mario was doing baby making things. No, I was not.
[24:03] Speaker 2: Let's just make sure we're all on the same page here.
[24:06] Speaker 2: He tried to turn us all to the church.
[24:08] Speaker 3: Okay, this is what happens when you lose to Minnesota.
[24:12] Speaker 3: This is what happens when you're 3-1 and you haven't
[24:15] Speaker 3: played well.
[24:16] Speaker 2: Assessment of the head coach. You go. You want a great?
[24:21] Speaker 2: I just want you to tell me what you think.
[24:23] Speaker 2: Because there's a play.
[24:24] Speaker 3: Caller that you went after in the postgame show on
[24:27] Speaker 3: Saturday night.
[24:28] Speaker 2: And you know the play caller is also the head coach. Okay,
[24:30] Speaker 2: assessment of the coach. I think coach is a recruiter.
[24:33] Speaker 2: I think he does a great job recruiting.
[24:36] Speaker 5: I think as far as the team and play calling
[24:39] Speaker 5: right now, he's at a C- or a D as
[24:41] Speaker 5: far as our offense is concerned. We cannot score in
[24:44] Speaker 5: the first quarter. We scored the 14, I believe, against
[24:47] Speaker 5: Eastern Washington. But other than that, even last year, he
[24:50] Speaker 5: has a problem getting started. And when we come out
[24:53] Speaker 5: in the after half and you have a delay of
[24:55] Speaker 5: the game, That's all on the coach. At the end
[24:58] Speaker 5: of that fourth quarter when they're blitzing and they're coming
[25:01] Speaker 5: and you sack our quarterback three times in the fourth
[25:04] Speaker 5: quarter when we're trying to come back and win, that's
[25:06] Speaker 5: all on the coach. So I think coach has to
[25:10] Speaker 5: go back to the drawing board as far as creativity
[25:13] Speaker 5: and on our offensive coordinator's side and, you know, these
[25:16] Speaker 5: personal fouls. We still had more on the defensive end.
[25:19] Speaker 5: If you're the head coach, all of that lies on you.
[25:22] Speaker 5: So right now I think Coach Fish is at the C-
[25:25] Speaker 5: or D-level.
[25:26] Speaker 6: I think he, as a coach, has a certain style
[25:29] Speaker 6: that he likes to play, the type of football that
[25:31] Speaker 6: he likes to play. And I don't think he even
[25:33] Speaker 6: has half of the type of personnel, especially at the
[25:36] Speaker 6: quarterback spot, that he would like or need to have
[25:39] Speaker 6: in order to play that style of football. And I'm
[25:41] Speaker 6: not going to play, you know, fake or anything like that.
[25:44] Speaker 2: Right. Right. Right.
[26:00] Speaker 6: And then can, you know, get the ball down the
[26:02] Speaker 6: field once you've committed their safeties to coming up, getting
[26:06] Speaker 6: close to the line of scrimmage because you're getting five
[26:08] Speaker 6: and seven yards of carry. So I think, you know,
[26:11] Speaker 6: the two things I'll say is he doesn't have the
[26:12] Speaker 6: personnel to play the style that he wants, and I'm
[26:15] Speaker 6: not a big fan of that style of football personally
[26:18] Speaker 6: because it just doesn't fit my ideology of what type
[26:22] Speaker 6: of football I like seeing in Huskies.
[26:23] Speaker 3: But he might see what you see, that we could
[26:26] Speaker 3: appease people They want to see us run the ball more,
[26:29] Speaker 3: but it's not going anywhere.
[26:30] Speaker 6: I didn't say run the ball more. I said have
[26:32] Speaker 6: a running philosophy, which means you recruit to that. You
[26:35] Speaker 6: recruit big, strong guys up front who are physical and maulers.
[26:39] Speaker 2: You recruit running.
[26:40] Speaker 6: Backs who are not fictitiously the number nine guy in
[26:45] Speaker 6: the country seven injuries ago and bring them into your program.
[26:48] Speaker 6: You go get guys that want to come play for
[26:51] Speaker 6: a big-time running football program. You will have more of
[26:54] Speaker 6: those guys in your program if that's the type of stuff.
[26:57] Speaker 3: Aren't they doing that, though, with Cody Green and John
[26:59] Speaker 3: Mills and Derek Coleman and Bruce Saw? I mean, these
[27:02] Speaker 3: guys are two freshmen and a sophomore.
[27:04] Speaker 2: I'll say this, though. This is something I was going
[27:06] Speaker 2: to say earlier.
[27:07] Speaker 6: I do believe that the young guys on this football
[27:10] Speaker 6: team give the potential for this to be a really
[27:13] Speaker 6: good team down the line. But unfortunately, whether it's the
[27:17] Speaker 6: transfer portal or injuries, the people they have right now,
[27:22] Speaker 6: um outside of damon williams who again no he's not
[27:25] Speaker 6: playing great but i think it's because he's playing the
[27:28] Speaker 6: wrong type of system for his skill set i think
[27:31] Speaker 6: he's talented but not in this system i think this
[27:34] Speaker 6: is a team that right now has a senior and
[27:36] Speaker 6: junior class yeah that are depleted they're not the guys
[27:39] Speaker 6: that are going to be successful helping you win national
[27:42] Speaker 6: championship games but the young guys do have potential to be.
[27:45] Speaker 2: That It's his third year.
[27:46] Speaker 6: It's his responsibility to have built that.
[27:50] Speaker 2: I agree.
[27:50] Speaker 5: And you have to adapt. Injuries happens to every football team,
[27:55] Speaker 5: to every sports. You have to adapt to what your
[27:58] Speaker 5: personnel is. That's why I keep saying on the play calling,
[28:01] Speaker 5: you know what this guy is good at. You know
[28:04] Speaker 5: what that guy is good at. Bonner's averaging five yards
[28:07] Speaker 5: a carry. Now, granted, he had one carry that might
[28:10] Speaker 5: have been 40 or 50 yards. But that's part of
[28:14] Speaker 5: a running back, and that's how you get your average up.
[28:17] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
[28:18] Speaker 5: If he's averaging five yards a carry, you're supposed to
[28:20] Speaker 5: give the young man the ball a few more times.
[28:23] Speaker 5: Maybe he breaks another one, and you're saying, oh, yeah, well,
[28:25] Speaker 5: he broke another 50-yarder. But if you're breaking a couple
[28:28] Speaker 5: 50-yarders a game, that's part of what your average is.
[28:31] Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt about that. I mean, that happened, right?
[28:33] Speaker 3: That run happened, and he gets credit for it. But, Greg,
[28:37] Speaker 3: I think you're exactly right. If you take that away,
[28:39] Speaker 3: he's got 71 yards on 21 carries for an average
[28:42] Speaker 3: of 3.3 yards a carry, which is not great in
[28:45] Speaker 3: college football.
[28:46] Speaker 2: Still give him the ball. But that did happen.
[28:48] Speaker 3: So I almost want to give him the ball more
[28:51] Speaker 3: just to see if there's anything there. I'm almost willing
[28:54] Speaker 3: to sacrifice a drive or four. just to see if
[28:58] Speaker 3: it's there. And maybe you start with that this Saturday
[29:00] Speaker 3: versus USC. I mean, USC's got what I say, the
[29:03] Speaker 3: 54th best rushing defense in college football.
[29:05] Speaker 2: They're not terrible.
[29:06] Speaker 3: 120 yards a game is not god-awful, but it's not
[29:10] Speaker 3: good either. Their defense is bad. It's the worst part
[29:13] Speaker 3: of their team by far. Maybe this is the game
[29:15] Speaker 3: where you just say, all right, all you knuckleheads out
[29:17] Speaker 3: there who think I'm not running the ball more, let's
[29:19] Speaker 3: give it to Brian Bonner 15 times in the first half,
[29:22] Speaker 3: and then you tell me your thoughts when we're down 14-3.
[29:25] Speaker 2: At halftime. Well, we said that we can shelve that
[29:28] Speaker 2: and move on. Yeah, maybe.
[29:30] Speaker 6: But I do believe, you know, we said before the
[29:32] Speaker 6: game last week that Minnesota got, you know, the ball
[29:35] Speaker 6: run down their throats.
[29:36] Speaker 2: By Mississippi State. They went for 250. Went for 250. Correct.
[29:39] Speaker 2: And did we ever commit to running downhill?
[29:42] Speaker 4: No.
[29:42] Speaker 6: Again, I don't think, again, I'll go back to saying this.
[29:46] Speaker 6: This coach, that is not his philosophy. And he hasn't
[29:51] Speaker 6: built his team or... They don't coach his team to
[29:55] Speaker 6: run that type of offense. So as much as I
[29:57] Speaker 6: say you got to get DeMond out there running around
[29:59] Speaker 6: making plays and all of that, the crazy part about
[30:02] Speaker 6: that statement and why it wreaks so much of desperation
[30:05] Speaker 6: is now you got to change your whole philosophy. You
[30:07] Speaker 6: haven't practiced that. You haven't prepared to do it that way.
[30:10] Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is you can't keep doing it.
[30:12] Speaker 2: The same way. and keep getting these results and.
[30:16] Speaker 6: Say, well, we just hope that even though the competition
[30:19] Speaker 6: level is going.
[30:19] Speaker 2: Up each week, that we're going to be better.
[30:21] Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about USC, right? Let's get to it.
[30:24] Speaker 3: USC coming off a loss to Oregon. They got massive
[30:26] Speaker 3: problems down there as well with their culture.
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[30:56] Speaker 3: All right, well, we're back. Final segment, Husky Hawks, 27-24
[30:59] Speaker 3: loss to Minnesota on Saturday. USC up next Saturday at
[31:03] Speaker 3: 4.30 from the Coliseum. 27 points is the most points
[31:08] Speaker 3: UW has allowed since Ryan Walters has been the defensive
[31:11] Speaker 3: coordinator at UW, by the way. And the first time,
[31:15] Speaker 3: I believe, they've allowed three touchdowns at home.
[31:19] Speaker 2: Since the Illinois game in 2024.
[31:21] Speaker 3: No, sorry, the Michigan game 2024. It's been a long
[31:29] Speaker 3: time since UW has done something like that. They missed
[31:32] Speaker 3: a lot of tackles on defense. Now they've got to
[31:35] Speaker 3: go face Jaden Maieva. King Hill, Mark Bowman, their hotshot
[31:39] Speaker 3: freshman tight end. You've seen USC play. We've all seen
[31:42] Speaker 3: USC play. Huskies are double-digit underdogs. They've gone from double-digit
[31:46] Speaker 3: favorites to double-digit underdogs now on Saturday. What's your gut
[31:50] Speaker 3: feel for this USC game Saturday, Greg?
[31:52] Speaker 6: Well, it really comes down to what does USC do
[31:55] Speaker 6: with the big loss that they had and the suspensions
[31:58] Speaker 6: and all the talk around their coach and him not
[32:02] Speaker 6: being there.
[32:03] Speaker 2: You know, too much longer.
[32:05] Speaker 6: If they give up, if they quit, if they decide
[32:07] Speaker 6: that they've had enough and don't play hard, then we
[32:09] Speaker 6: got a shot. When you think about it, though, talent
[32:12] Speaker 6: for talent, even in the years we beat USC, when
[32:15] Speaker 6: I was there, when Mario was there, they probably had
[32:16] Speaker 6: players that might have been better than us, maybe. And
[32:19] Speaker 6: so they always have talent and they're going to be
[32:21] Speaker 6: talented on Saturday. So if those guys come to play
[32:24] Speaker 6: and they get fired up and they rally behind their
[32:26] Speaker 6: coach and it's in the Coliseum and all those things,
[32:28] Speaker 6: I don't think the Huskies really have a great chance
[32:31] Speaker 6: because we still have not proven that we can do
[32:33] Speaker 6: anything offensively, even against a defense that's not great, that
[32:38] Speaker 6: we can score a ton of points. And USC has
[32:40] Speaker 6: the ability to score points.
[32:42] Speaker 2: They got weapons.
[32:42] Speaker 6: And if those guys come to play, they're going to
[32:45] Speaker 6: score more than 30 points. And I don't see us
[32:47] Speaker 6: scoring more than 30 on anybody right now. Yeah, they
[32:49] Speaker 6: have the athletes. They're more talented than us across the board.
[32:53] Speaker 6: Their offense can score a bunch of points.
[32:56] Speaker 5: And our offense is going to have to score at
[32:58] Speaker 5: least 28, and I can't see us scoring 28. What
[33:01] Speaker 5: we should be trying to do is run them first
[33:04] Speaker 5: and second down and keep that clock moving and keep
[33:07] Speaker 5: their offense off the field. They have a quarterback. They
[33:09] Speaker 5: have a running back. They have a tight end. They
[33:11] Speaker 5: have a couple receivers. They have weapons. Their weakness is
[33:15] Speaker 5: their D, but after watching Minnesota's D, and you can
[33:18] Speaker 5: see DeMond struggling with the blitz and people coming, that's
[33:22] Speaker 5: all i would do is i would blitz him and
[33:23] Speaker 5: figure out a way and because we're not worried about
[33:26] Speaker 5: washington running yeah we're in trouble.
[33:28] Speaker 3: Yeah i just think this is kind of like the
[33:30] Speaker 3: last ditch effort if you can't score on this defense
[33:32] Speaker 3: then who can you score on right i mean this
[33:34] Speaker 3: is the defense that's a sieve right now i mean
[33:36] Speaker 3: they're they're getting into shootouts obviously because their offense is
[33:39] Speaker 3: really really good but i would think that this is
[33:42] Speaker 3: one of those games guys where jed may be able
[33:44] Speaker 3: to be a little bit aggressive and maybe pull out
[33:46] Speaker 3: some stops he's not pulled out so far how desperate
[33:50] Speaker 3: are they how desperate.
[33:53] Speaker 2: Not pull out the third flea flicker.
[33:55] Speaker 3: Well if it works why not no i so what
[33:58] Speaker 3: you know what do you mean why why.
[34:00] Speaker 5: You can't keep pulling out that shows desperateness when you
[34:04] Speaker 5: can when you.
[34:04] Speaker 7: Have i don't care about doing we are definitely we're
[34:06] Speaker 7: not we're not we're not doing i'm following mario's logic
[34:10] Speaker 7: here and you know that's very rare because he's not
[34:13] Speaker 7: usually logical but i'm.
[34:14] Speaker 6: Following it today If you want to slow USC down,
[34:23] Speaker 6: you got to keep control of the football. You got
[34:26] Speaker 6: to keep their offense off the field. And when you
[34:28] Speaker 6: pull out all the stops and you're throwing flea flickers
[34:30] Speaker 6: and all that, what happens in those when they're not successful?
[34:33] Speaker 6: You turn the football over quickly, give them shorter fields.
[34:36] Speaker 6: You go three and outs and you give them more
[34:38] Speaker 6: opportunities to score more. So right now, I'm going to
[34:41] Speaker 6: try to keep the score down. You have a defense
[34:42] Speaker 6: that has been, you know, the last couple of weeks,
[34:45] Speaker 6: I don't know what this missing tackle stuff is the
[34:47] Speaker 6: last couple of weeks. That's kind of looking scary right now.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Right.
[34:50] Speaker 6: But you have a defense that's typically been able to
[34:52] Speaker 6: keep you in football games, right? When they usually make
[34:55] Speaker 6: you earn every yard, every blade of grass you get
[34:57] Speaker 6: a yardage on, they make you earn it. So if
[35:00] Speaker 6: you keep the clock on your side as much as
[35:02] Speaker 6: you can, you run the ball on first down and
[35:05] Speaker 6: you take your time. You run the ball a second down.
[35:07] Speaker 6: You try to get into, especially against their defense, third
[35:11] Speaker 6: and mediums or third and shorts.
[35:12] Speaker 2: Now you got a shot.
[35:13] Speaker 6: You don't have to do fully flickers and all that.
[35:15] Speaker 6: You can use the short passing game to get first down.
[35:17] Speaker 2: Right. You control the clock. Right.
[35:20] Speaker 6: Coach fish, that would be the type of offense that
[35:22] Speaker 6: I'm running. And then you unleash demand when you need
[35:25] Speaker 6: a big play, you get him outside of the pocket,
[35:27] Speaker 6: you get him somewhere where he can be an open
[35:29] Speaker 6: space and you try to hit your big plays that way.
[35:32] Speaker 2: That's the strategy I would use going in. Yeah.
[35:34] Speaker 3: I just think you got a chance to make these
[35:36] Speaker 3: guys quit and make the fans turn on him pretty fast.
[35:38] Speaker 2: Right?
[35:38] Speaker 3: I mean, the fan base is clearly annoyed with this
[35:41] Speaker 3: football team and with their head coach and Lincoln Riley
[35:43] Speaker 3: after what happened last Saturday and not just the loss,
[35:46] Speaker 3: but the way they behaved. I mean, they got, you know, uh,
[35:49] Speaker 3: A defensive back who got suspended for the game for
[35:52] Speaker 3: acting like a clown when Dante Moore is laying on
[35:54] Speaker 3: the turf, by the way.
[35:56] Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley going on the.
[35:58] Speaker 3: Postgame with the media, acting like he's above it all
[36:01] Speaker 3: and had no idea what the hell anybody else was
[36:03] Speaker 3: even talking about. So this fan base feels to me, Mario,
[36:06] Speaker 3: that they are ready to turn.
[36:07] Speaker 2: On these guys fast. Most definitely.
[36:10] Speaker 5: But for that to happen, we'd have to do something
[36:12] Speaker 5: that we don't rarely do, and that's have a fast start.
[36:15] Speaker 5: If we were to come out a fast start and
[36:18] Speaker 5: Washington came out and scored a couple points early in
[36:20] Speaker 5: the first quarter, that's what these fans would do. They
[36:23] Speaker 5: would turn on them as fast as they could. But
[36:25] Speaker 5: we haven't been able to generate any type of offense early, so.
[36:30] Speaker 2: We're just going to have to see what's going to happen.
[36:32] Speaker 3: Well, look, it's again, the more this thing goes down south,
[36:36] Speaker 3: the more the drumbeat is going to continue of criticism.
[36:40] Speaker 3: And I just I don't know where this thing's heading.
[36:42] Speaker 3: I wonder if they have the proper leadership in a
[36:44] Speaker 3: lot of ways from a player perspective. I mean, guys,
[36:47] Speaker 3: some of this is not a surprise that. We're dealing
[36:50] Speaker 3: with a quarterback that tried to quit the team in January.
[36:52] Speaker 3: I mean, I think we stopped there, right? I mean,
[36:55] Speaker 3: how would you guys have responded to that? Maybe different
[36:58] Speaker 3: in the era of NIL when everybody's got a bag
[37:00] Speaker 3: to go get. But if your leader, who's your quarterback,
[37:04] Speaker 3: tried to turn on you and walk out that door,
[37:08] Speaker 3: you know as well as I, there's people in that
[37:10] Speaker 3: room that would not sit well with them no matter
[37:13] Speaker 3: what happened the rest of the year.
[37:14] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[37:14] Speaker 6: There are going to be people who are going to
[37:16] Speaker 6: be upset with something like that. But you can't say
[37:18] Speaker 6: that everyone would. I know I would have to consider
[37:22] Speaker 6: the fact that this young man is probably the breadwinner
[37:24] Speaker 6: for his entire family. And he's probably never going to
[37:27] Speaker 6: play a down of professional football. Now, I'm not wishing
[37:30] Speaker 6: that on him. He could potentially get there. I just
[37:33] Speaker 6: don't think so, and he has to plan for that.
[37:35] Speaker 6: And if he can make as much money for him
[37:37] Speaker 6: and his family and his future as possible now, that's
[37:40] Speaker 6: something that each person has to make an individual decision
[37:42] Speaker 6: on that.
[37:43] Speaker 2: I'll say this.
[37:44] Speaker 6: There are some people who wouldn't have done that. I
[37:47] Speaker 6: have to be honest there. I can tell you this.
[37:49] Speaker 6: There's a quarterback at the team wearing green just south
[37:53] Speaker 6: of here, right, who could have gone to the NFL and–
[37:57] Speaker 6: realized his dream and made millions of dollars earlier than
[38:00] Speaker 6: he's going to if he goes a year later, right?
[38:03] Speaker 6: And he came back to college football and he got hurt.
[38:06] Speaker 6: He may not, you know, something like that could have
[38:08] Speaker 6: ended his professional aspirations. And he went back to his
[38:12] Speaker 6: team for a chance to win. So there's some people
[38:14] Speaker 6: who wouldn't have made that decision. So it's all an
[38:16] Speaker 6: individual thing. I'm not going to criticize a guy for
[38:19] Speaker 6: making that decision. That's better for him and his family
[38:22] Speaker 6: either way.
[38:23] Speaker 2: All right, well, like you said, we'll see. We will.
[38:26] Speaker 3: See what happens on Saturday. Tom's watch bar, you and
[38:29] Speaker 3: you're out Saturday.
[38:30] Speaker 2: Me and Miles Gaskin. Miles Gaskin. Miles mother effing Gaskin.
[38:35] Speaker 2: Who's the better running back? We'll be filling in between
[38:37] Speaker 2: you and Miles. Oh, Miles for sure.
[38:39] Speaker 3: The question is who is the better pass catcher between
[38:42] Speaker 3: you and Miles Gaskin.
[38:43] Speaker 2: He was a pretty good pass catcher. I love Miles.
[38:45] Speaker 2: He was a great running back, but stop that. 30 touchdowns.
[38:48] Speaker 6: I'm going to tell Miles on Saturday that if he
[38:51] Speaker 6: came to Washington any time between 87 and 90, he'd
[38:54] Speaker 6: have been the second string running back. I don't know.
[38:57] Speaker 2: Whatever. Who has more rushing yards?
[38:59] Speaker 3: Miles Gaskin caught 65 balls.
[39:01] Speaker 2: Who has the most single season rushing yards between me
[39:04] Speaker 2: and Miles? Wow. And I did it in eight games.
[39:07] Speaker 2: Who has the most? Let's ask that. I did it
[39:09] Speaker 2: in eight games.
[39:10] Speaker 6: That's because I came at a time where there were
[39:12] Speaker 6: more depth at the position. Hey, do you guys realize
[39:14] Speaker 6: we're still on the air, by the way?
[39:17] Speaker 2: How many touchdowns? Can we talk about touchdowns?
[39:18] Speaker 3: Take it off the air, boys. Take it off the air. Saturday, 1230,
[39:22] Speaker 3: Tom's Watch Bar. I'm calling Reggie Williams. With Miles and Greg,
[39:25] Speaker 3: I'll be in L.A. We'll talk then on 93.3 KJRFM.
[39:28] Speaker 1: Go Dogs!

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