# Bret Boone on Almost Done Mariners, Mindsets, Dan Wilson, Respect

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 17 Sep 2026, 18 min.

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Former Mariners All Star Bret Boone joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss the Mariners’ hopes all but dead right now, the mindsets of players given the situation, Dan Wilson’s treatment of his players and how much blame he should receive, respect being an important factor with managers, what happened with the 2004 M’s, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Coming to you live from our Elliott Avenue studios of
[0:03] Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM, it's time for our weekly conversation
[0:09] Speaker 1: with former Mariners All-Star Brett Boone. Brought to you by
[0:12] Speaker 1: Venue Kings. Visit VenueKings.com for all your ticket needs. Now
[0:17] Speaker 1: with Booney, here's Softie and Dick.
[0:21] Speaker 2: All right, how much do you think the very next
[0:23] Speaker 2: Seahawks home game is going for right now? What do
[0:26] Speaker 2: we got next week?
[0:27] Speaker 3: Who is that?
[0:28] Speaker 2: The next game will be the Chargers. God, the Hawks
[0:31] Speaker 2: are not home until October 4th.
[0:33] Speaker 1: Wow!
[0:34] Speaker 2: How much do you think tickets are to get in
[0:36] Speaker 2: right now?
[0:36] Speaker 4: $ 172.
[0:38] Speaker 2: $ 293. Wow, no way. Get in? To get in the door.
[0:43] Speaker 2: Maybe I'll sell mine. Be sure and use code Mike
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[0:50] Speaker 2: Code Mike for a discount every time you check out
[0:52] Speaker 2: for anything at VenueKings.com. Well, here he is, and I
[0:56] Speaker 2: think that, guys, we may have officially reached Lou Piniella's
[0:59] Speaker 2: story time.
[1:00] Speaker 4: Yes, we have.
[1:00] Speaker 2: God bless it. With our friend Brett Boone. Nine games
[1:03] Speaker 2: to go, five and a half out, Booney. You make
[1:06] Speaker 2: the call. You tell us. Is it Lou Piniella story
[1:09] Speaker 2: time or not yet?
[1:10] Speaker 3: I'm going to go back now. I'm going to go
[1:13] Speaker 3: into player mode. You've got to be delusional. It's not
[1:15] Speaker 3: over yet. Until they tell you, until they put that
[1:18] Speaker 3: little squiggly line at the top that says you're eliminated,
[1:21] Speaker 3: you're not eliminated. So you've got to win out.
[1:25] Speaker 2: I've got to tell you.
[1:26] Speaker 3: That's what you've got to do. And you're still probably
[1:28] Speaker 3: not going to make it. You've got to win out.
[1:31] Speaker 3: At this stage of the season, this is the worst.
[1:34] Speaker 3: I've been on teams– By the way, we're in this
[1:36] Speaker 3: position a lot earlier than September 17th. And it is,
[1:41] Speaker 3: that's when, the term dog days, that's when they come in.
[1:45] Speaker 3: And you truly have to find a way as a player,
[1:49] Speaker 3: whether it's, all right, I'm going to get selfish. I
[1:52] Speaker 3: want to get these numbers for my resume. You've got
[1:55] Speaker 3: to find something to get up in the morning, come
[1:57] Speaker 3: to the ballpark, and have a purpose. The only thing
[2:00] Speaker 3: I'm looking at with their schedule, they've got the Rockies,
[2:02] Speaker 3: they've finished with the Angels. You've got two games in
[2:04] Speaker 3: between for the Astros. Do you want to ruin the Astros' season?
[2:07] Speaker 3: That could be a self-motivating thing. But at this stage, yes.
[2:13] Speaker 3: It's about as grim as it could be. But you've
[2:15] Speaker 3: got to find a way to play these out the
[2:18] Speaker 3: right way.
[2:20] Speaker 2: I was hoping for a story. Well, we'll get a story.
[2:22] Speaker 3: I think we've got one week left.
[2:26] Speaker 2: You'll get a story.
[2:27] Speaker 3: You can still have a story if you want.
[2:30] Speaker 2: We'll get one at the end.
[2:31] Speaker 4: All those things you say are true. However.
[2:34] Speaker 2: Does this look like a group.
[2:35] Speaker 4: Of guys that gives a damn about any of that?
[2:38] Speaker 2: Nope.
[2:39] Speaker 3: I'll be honest, and I hate to say that. No,
[2:42] Speaker 3: they don't. They don't. I've watched over the last two weeks,
[2:44] Speaker 3: and I've just seen several kind of, you know, woe-is-me
[2:49] Speaker 3: moments from different players. But that doesn't mean as a
[2:54] Speaker 3: collective you let that stand. I mean, look, you go
[2:57] Speaker 3: up and down this roster. I mean, how many guys
[2:59] Speaker 3: could walk away from this season and say, you know,
[3:01] Speaker 3: I had a pretty good year? Or Rose Arena? He
[3:04] Speaker 3: did a lot more than you expected from him. Cole
[3:08] Speaker 3: Emerson and Cade Anderson, they got their cup of coffee,
[3:11] Speaker 3: and they've struggled, which might be a good thing in
[3:14] Speaker 3: the long run. You know, Cade Anderson had about as
[3:16] Speaker 3: unbelievable season as possible in AA, and he comes to
[3:19] Speaker 3: the big leagues. Big leagues is different, but that might
[3:22] Speaker 3: be good for him. I always say, I look back
[3:24] Speaker 3: at my career, good times, bad times, I learned a
[3:26] Speaker 3: hell of a lot more from getting my butt kicked
[3:28] Speaker 3: than kicking butt. I'll tell you that. So that might
[3:31] Speaker 3: be a positive thing going forward. But there's no way
[3:35] Speaker 3: around this season. And, you know, couple that with the
[3:39] Speaker 3: expectations going into this season. I was thinking about teams
[3:43] Speaker 3: to compare them to because there's a lot of teams
[3:44] Speaker 3: having bad years. But you said, oh, yeah, I see
[3:46] Speaker 3: how they didn't have a good year. This guy got hurt.
[3:49] Speaker 3: That guy got hurt. They weren't that good to begin with.
[3:51] Speaker 3: I can't find anything because they didn't have any major setbacks.
[3:56] Speaker 3: You had Brash in the bullpen. Okay, he's a key
[3:58] Speaker 3: part of that bullpen, but he's not. the key that
[4:01] Speaker 3: makes that team go. And you look up and down
[4:04] Speaker 3: for the injury. All right, what's the excuse? Why didn't
[4:06] Speaker 3: we put it together? And I think about back to
[4:10] Speaker 3: that 2021 Chicago White Sox. They had Giolito and Cease
[4:15] Speaker 3: and Keichel and Rodon in the rotation. They were coming
[4:18] Speaker 3: off 90, I don't know, 91, 93 games. The next
[4:22] Speaker 3: year they went 500, and then they lose 100 games
[4:25] Speaker 3: every year. I thought that was the start of something
[4:27] Speaker 3: in Chicago like, this is going to be a team
[4:29] Speaker 3: to be reckoned with for years to come. It took
[4:31] Speaker 3: till this year, you know, Chicago's in a battle right now,
[4:34] Speaker 3: but they were, they're a hell of a lot better
[4:35] Speaker 3: than they were a year ago. But I thought that
[4:38] Speaker 3: was the most disappointing team for me back then. Like,
[4:40] Speaker 3: how did the White Sox just fall apart with that,
[4:43] Speaker 3: with that roster? That's what I look at with this
[4:46] Speaker 3: Mariner roster. There's no rhyme. I can't, I can't, and
[4:49] Speaker 3: they're not even close to 500. Right. With a roster
[4:52] Speaker 3: that hasn't been banged up. So it's, it's just been
[4:54] Speaker 3: disappointment all around this year for, for, uh, Seattle Mariners.
[4:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Booney, I'm with you. I still think
[5:01] Speaker 2: it's the most talented roster with the highest ceiling in
[5:05] Speaker 2: the division, but they're terrible. I mean, they're 3-7 in
[5:08] Speaker 2: their last 10 games against the Angels and the A's.
[5:11] Speaker 2: You flip that around and go 7-3, and you're a
[5:13] Speaker 2: game and a half out right now. That's all you
[5:15] Speaker 2: had to do, right, was just take advantage of this.
[5:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, down the stretch.
[5:18] Speaker 1: Pathetic.
[5:19] Speaker 2: Down the stretch.
[5:20] Speaker 3: They lose 5 of 7 to the A's, one of
[5:23] Speaker 3: the worst teams in baseball. And then you get swept
[5:27] Speaker 3: by the Blue Jays. Which, you know, Blue Jays are
[5:31] Speaker 3: fighting for a wild card.
[5:32] Speaker 2: But they're, at best.
[5:33] Speaker 3: A 500 team this year. Yeah, you can't play like
[5:38] Speaker 3: that down the stretch if you want to play in October.
[5:43] Speaker 2: Booney, hang on a second because I want to be
[5:45] Speaker 2: sure that we get your thoughts on Dan. You played
[5:48] Speaker 2: with Dan. I know it's hard for a lot of
[5:50] Speaker 2: people to criticize Dan. I mean, I still think that
[5:52] Speaker 2: his legacy in this town is secure after what he
[5:55] Speaker 2: did as a player. It was a failed experiment as
[5:58] Speaker 2: a manager. I mean, it's funny how, you know, eight
[6:00] Speaker 2: more outs and it's totally different. You know, eight outs.
[6:03] Speaker 2: We're talking like maybe 40 minutes of baseball. And this
[6:06] Speaker 2: guy's legacy is not only secure but increased significantly. a
[6:10] Speaker 2: thousandfold if he's the skipper that gets us to a
[6:12] Speaker 2: World Series. But Dick mentioned it, and you said they
[6:15] Speaker 2: don't look like they care. Their desire looks like it's
[6:19] Speaker 2: in the gutter. They look like they've quit. There's no accountability.
[6:23] Speaker 2: Nobody's being held accountable by the skipper whatsoever. Guys are
[6:26] Speaker 2: playing like clowns out there, and nobody's getting benched. Nobody's
[6:30] Speaker 2: getting aired out. I am surprised at the absolute lack
[6:34] Speaker 2: of accountability on this baseball team and the perception that
[6:38] Speaker 2: I have formed, Booney. If I'm wrong, is that the
[6:41] Speaker 2: culture on this thing stinks right now. I'm wondering if
[6:44] Speaker 2: you agree with that and if a new skipper can
[6:46] Speaker 2: change that next year.
[6:48] Speaker 3: Well, I think, yeah. You know, from where we're looking
[6:51] Speaker 3: at it, yeah, it looks like they're running amok. Nobody cares.
[6:55] Speaker 3: That's the body language they're showing. And that's on the players.
[6:59] Speaker 3: You know, we talk a lot and you hear a
[7:01] Speaker 3: lot on Twitter. It's, oh, they need to be coached.
[7:05] Speaker 3: They need to be disciplined. They need to be yelled at.
[7:07] Speaker 3: These aren't children. These are big league players. When you
[7:11] Speaker 3: don't do your job, you need to be fired. And
[7:14] Speaker 3: I'm not talking about Dan. I'm talking about players. Sometimes
[7:17] Speaker 3: you're in the middle of a multi-year contract and you
[7:18] Speaker 3: can't do that. But it's not as easy to walk
[7:21] Speaker 3: up to a guy making $ 20 million a year and
[7:23] Speaker 3: show your discipline. You know what a lot of guys
[7:25] Speaker 3: in today's game make of them? They laugh at you. Like, oh, really? No,
[7:29] Speaker 3: it starts with respect in the room, respect in the skipper,
[7:33] Speaker 3: and the skipper returning that respect. I think... And we
[7:37] Speaker 3: talked about it a couple weeks ago. I think, Danny,
[7:38] Speaker 3: you go back to a year and a half. Was
[7:41] Speaker 3: it two and a half years ago when he was
[7:43] Speaker 3: initially hired?
[7:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, 24.
[7:44] Speaker 3: And it was smooth sailing. Yeah, it was smooth sailing,
[7:47] Speaker 3: and he did well. And then last year, he did
[7:49] Speaker 3: really well. And then all of a sudden, the expectations came,
[7:53] Speaker 3: and they weren't doing very well at the beginning, and
[7:57] Speaker 3: they never turned it around. Now, of course, at the
[8:02] Speaker 3: end of the day, if you're in that skipper position,
[8:05] Speaker 3: It's a reflection of you, and you're going to wear it.
[8:07] Speaker 3: You're going to own it. Whether he's going to get
[8:09] Speaker 3: fired or not, I don't know. That's a part of
[8:11] Speaker 3: the game. But as far as he needs to discipline
[8:16] Speaker 3: people and yell at people and hold people accountable, it's
[8:20] Speaker 3: easier said than done in today's day and age to
[8:22] Speaker 3: hold a big leaguer accountable. There's things you can do,
[8:26] Speaker 3: but I think it's the way you go about it.
[8:29] Speaker 3: We talked about a week ago how Danny's Danny, and
[8:33] Speaker 3: I love Danny. But he's not going to change his personality,
[8:37] Speaker 3: and his personality isn't going to change just to formulate
[8:40] Speaker 3: into what needs to be done this week. Players see
[8:43] Speaker 3: through that. Players are not stupid. They know who you are.
[8:46] Speaker 3: They know how you run the ship. And if you
[8:49] Speaker 3: do an about face in the middle of the season,
[8:51] Speaker 3: they're going to picture that as phony, not authentic, and
[8:54] Speaker 3: they're not going to respond to that.
[8:57] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[8:59] Speaker 3: It's tough to say. You know, guys down there, I
[9:01] Speaker 3: really don't. talk or know anybody down there except for Edgar,
[9:06] Speaker 3: who was there last year for that run and can
[9:10] Speaker 3: be a big presence in a clubhouse, different being a
[9:12] Speaker 3: player than when you're a coach. But, no, I can't
[9:16] Speaker 3: put it on Danny. That being said, obviously he's going
[9:20] Speaker 3: to get a lot of it. He's going to get
[9:21] Speaker 3: a lot of it because you're the skipper, and the
[9:23] Speaker 3: bottom line is wins and losses, it's your job, and
[9:27] Speaker 3: you're responsible. And I think he'd say the same thing.
[9:29] Speaker 3: But as far as how he went about it, how
[9:31] Speaker 3: he ran that clubhouse. The greatest clubhouses I've ever been
[9:35] Speaker 3: in run themselves. There's no skipper. There's no coaches cracking
[9:38] Speaker 3: the whip. They're players monitoring players. That's what you create.
[9:44] Speaker 3: And we talked about this as well. You create the culture.
[9:47] Speaker 3: It starts in the minor leagues. How you come to
[9:48] Speaker 3: the ballpark, how you play the game. How you hold
[9:52] Speaker 3: each other accountable. When you don't run out a ground ball,
[9:55] Speaker 3: and you know who I'm talking about, on a double play,
[9:57] Speaker 3: and you give them a double play, that's not really
[10:03] Speaker 3: for Danny. He should be tackled, and I say tackled,
[10:09] Speaker 3: I'm being sarcastic, but really disciplined by his teammates well
[10:14] Speaker 3: before he gets to to that place in the dugout
[10:17] Speaker 3: where the skipper is. You see what I'm saying? I
[10:19] Speaker 3: just think of myself on the great teams I was on.
[10:22] Speaker 3: If I did something like that, I would get an
[10:26] Speaker 3: earful from three or four guys, and I wouldn't even
[10:29] Speaker 3: have to get to the skipper, and I would be
[10:31] Speaker 3: licking my wounds in the corner. Now, I wouldn't do
[10:33] Speaker 3: that because I wouldn't do that. You know, fortunately for me,
[10:37] Speaker 3: I never had to be yelled at for not running hard.
[10:41] Speaker 3: One time I got disciplined by a guy that I
[10:44] Speaker 3: had so much respect for Paul Molitor's my hitting coach
[10:47] Speaker 3: in 04, and I was in Texas, and I hit
[10:50] Speaker 3: a one-hopper back to the pitcher. And it was late
[10:53] Speaker 3: in the season, and we were out of it, and
[10:56] Speaker 3: the pitcher just grabbed the ball, one-hop, boom. He sprinted
[11:00] Speaker 3: to first base and flipped it to the first baseman.
[11:02] Speaker 3: I got about halfway down the line. I turned around
[11:04] Speaker 3: and came back. And Paulie, man, he's never said a
[11:07] Speaker 3: negative word to me, kind of gave me that look.
[11:09] Speaker 3: And I said, Molly, what's wrong? He goes... And he
[11:13] Speaker 3: kind of gave me that fatherly, you son of a bitch,
[11:15] Speaker 3: you run that thing out. You touch first base. And
[11:19] Speaker 3: it was like coming from my dad. I was so
[11:22] Speaker 3: disappointed that I disappointed him. And I was beside myself.
[11:26] Speaker 3: And I just sat at the end of the day.
[11:28] Speaker 3: I got like, man, Paul Moller is disappointing to me.
[11:31] Speaker 3: This is a guy I look up to. I respect.
[11:33] Speaker 3: I played, you know, he was my hit coach, but
[11:35] Speaker 3: I played against him for years. And that was enough
[11:38] Speaker 3: for me. I never even thought about it. ever again
[11:41] Speaker 3: not touching first base when I hit a ground ball.
[11:44] Speaker 3: I don't care if I was out by 15 feet.
[11:45] Speaker 3: So it's things like that that come from people that
[11:48] Speaker 3: really hurt. It stings when if they give you that look,
[11:52] Speaker 3: it's like, wow, I really disappointed him. And I just
[11:56] Speaker 3: don't see that on this team. It's like nobody, when
[12:00] Speaker 3: they do something, it's like nobody's disappointed in them and
[12:03] Speaker 3: they don't really care. I'm not saying that. I'm not
[12:05] Speaker 3: on the ground. I'm not in that clubhouse. I don't
[12:07] Speaker 3: know these guys. I'd probably have a completely different perception
[12:10] Speaker 3: of them if i was living with them on a
[12:11] Speaker 3: daily basis but i'm just talking about the visual what
[12:14] Speaker 3: we see day in and day out the body language
[12:17] Speaker 3: isn't good.
[12:20] Speaker 4: Well brett i'm glad you brought up oh four because
[12:21] Speaker 4: i mean that was a season that you went from
[12:24] Speaker 4: 93 wins to 63 wins in oh four and was
[12:28] Speaker 4: there something similar to what you're seeing with this team
[12:31] Speaker 4: why did that team you know cavern the way it
[12:34] Speaker 4: did in.
[12:34] Speaker 3: Oh four I think a lot different. I think it
[12:37] Speaker 3: was an age thing. I think it had run out.
[12:39] Speaker 3: I think that was the year that Danny's last year,
[12:44] Speaker 3: that was Olerud got designated for a sign. He got
[12:47] Speaker 3: designated that year. Edgar, that was the year where they
[12:50] Speaker 3: were kind of, he was not going to be the
[12:52] Speaker 3: DH anymore. He was retired and he announced it. So
[12:55] Speaker 3: I think that year for us, it was just a
[12:58] Speaker 3: matter of, That team that was in its prime in 01, 02, 03,
[13:01] Speaker 3: and by 04, guys were getting a little bit older.
[13:05] Speaker 3: Guys were getting out of their prime, and you started
[13:07] Speaker 3: to see a decline, and the writing was on the wall.
[13:09] Speaker 3: I don't see that with this crew. This crew is
[13:11] Speaker 3: still youthful and still all should be in their prime,
[13:14] Speaker 3: so I can't give them that olive branch.
[13:17] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:17] Speaker 2: All right, man. Well, mercifully, the season is about to
[13:20] Speaker 2: come to an end next Sunday, final game of the year,
[13:24] Speaker 2: unless these guys pull off a miracle. How about we
[13:27] Speaker 2: do this? How about we reserve story time, Lou Piniella
[13:31] Speaker 2: story time, for next week? Because by this time next week,
[13:34] Speaker 2: they're likely going to be done, and we might need
[13:36] Speaker 2: stories for 20 minutes on the air out of you
[13:39] Speaker 2: next week. So start thinking about the good ones, right?
[13:42] Speaker 2: And if you want to even make a few up,
[13:44] Speaker 2: that's fine by us, by the way, all right, for
[13:45] Speaker 2: next week's show.
[13:47] Speaker 3: Maybe I'll give them a call and say, hey, Skipper,
[13:50] Speaker 3: refresh me on some stories that I forgot when I
[13:52] Speaker 3: was a kid.
[13:53] Speaker 4: Right.
[13:54] Speaker 3: Softie and Dick need some stories because Mariners aren't playing
[13:57] Speaker 3: very well.
[13:58] Speaker 2: You got it.
[13:58] Speaker 3: Do it.
[13:59] Speaker 2: All right, man. We'll talk in a week. Brett Boone
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[14:19] Speaker 2: at VenueKings.com. I mean, obviously, he's 1,000% right. I don't
[14:24] Speaker 2: even know who that person would be to grab Naylor.
[14:26] Speaker 2: I mean, the guy that would be the guy grabbing
[14:28] Speaker 2: Naylor would be Naylor, right? I mean, it's not going
[14:31] Speaker 2: to be Julio Rodriguez. I mean, Randy Orozarena seems like
[14:34] Speaker 2: he's still playing hard, but I think he's checked out
[14:36] Speaker 2: to his next destination with this baseball team. I don't
[14:39] Speaker 2: see anybody holding anybody accountable. The manager looks like he
[14:43] Speaker 2: knows the end is near. I've made the analogy to
[14:45] Speaker 2: the captain in Pirates of the Caribbean where they're getting
[14:48] Speaker 2: bombed to death by Jack Sparrow, and he's just sitting
[14:50] Speaker 2: there with a blank stare on his face and has
[14:52] Speaker 2: no answer for anything. So, I mean, this is– I
[14:55] Speaker 2: just wonder if it goes deeper than just getting a
[14:59] Speaker 2: new leader in there, Dick.
[15:01] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[15:01] Speaker 2: Right? Like, does this team– and this is where we
[15:03] Speaker 2: talked about this yesterday, right, guys? The questions for Jerry
[15:05] Speaker 2: DiPoto and John Stanton at a press conference, like, do
[15:08] Speaker 2: you guys have a culture problem that exists with players
[15:10] Speaker 2: on your roster?
[15:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:11] Speaker 2: That need to go, or is this really just about
[15:14] Speaker 2: getting a new leader in the dugout that can change
[15:17] Speaker 2: the culture overnight? I don't know.
[15:19] Speaker 4: I don't think it's coincidence that both years that Gino
[15:22] Speaker 4: Suarez was on this team, they played great down the stretch.
[15:25] Speaker 4: And for those that said, oh, Gino Suarez sucks, we
[15:29] Speaker 4: shouldn't trade for him.
[15:30] Speaker 2: Let me just let you know that he's got a.
[15:32] Speaker 4: 900 OPS since the trade deadline. 900.
[15:37] Speaker 2: Right, but didn't the Reds try to get rid of him?
[15:39] Speaker 2: They did, but they brought him back.
[15:42] Speaker 4: His September, he's got a 997 OPS with four home runs.
[15:47] Speaker 4: Do you think that would have equaled maybe three or
[15:49] Speaker 4: four more wins?
[15:50] Speaker 2: I don't know if he would have done that here,
[15:51] Speaker 2: but I still would have signed him. I would have
[15:53] Speaker 2: grabbed him. I would have picked him up off waivers.
[15:55] Speaker 4: And he's the guy that would grab you by the
[15:57] Speaker 4: nape of the neck and say, you know what, shape
[15:59] Speaker 4: up or ship out, man.
[16:01] Speaker 2: The Mariners had a chance at him, as did every
[16:03] Speaker 2: team in baseball, and they didn't want him because of
[16:05] Speaker 2: his salary. I mean, for a lot of other reasons.
[16:08] Speaker 2: I don't even know what the hell they're doing at
[16:09] Speaker 2: third base right now. Like, what do you have at
[16:12] Speaker 2: third base that would possibly be any better than what
[16:16] Speaker 2: Gino Suarez would have brought to the table? I mean, again, overall,
[16:19] Speaker 2: he's not a very good player anymore, but Guess what
[16:22] Speaker 2: you also don't have at third base? Very good players.
[16:25] Speaker 2: And if you can bring in some chemistry with a
[16:27] Speaker 2: kid like that or a guy like that, I absolutely
[16:29] Speaker 2: would have done it. And maybe he would have been
[16:31] Speaker 2: the difference between going 2-7 against the Angels and A's
[16:34] Speaker 2: and then instead going 7-2. And then you're a game
[16:37] Speaker 2: and a half out of first place. So, I mean,
[16:39] Speaker 2: it just kind of feels like, and again, this is
[16:41] Speaker 2: just the perception. And perception often is reality. It just
[16:44] Speaker 2: feels like these guys identified the players and management weeks
[16:49] Speaker 2: ago that they're not going anywhere, and they just said
[16:52] Speaker 2: to hell with it. Why even bother improving this baseball team?
[16:55] Speaker 2: Why even bother trying? Because this thing's done. That's what
[16:57] Speaker 2: Jerry did two years ago. Three years ago, right? When
[17:00] Speaker 2: he traded Paul Seawald. And now you got Ken Rosenthal.
[17:03] Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the latest from him.
[17:05] Speaker 2: He came out today in a story for The Athletic,
[17:08] Speaker 2: and I mean, he's kind of insinuating that, hey, maybe
[17:11] Speaker 2: the Mariners should be taking a look at Jerry DiPoto
[17:13] Speaker 2: as well. Guy's been here for 11 years, and he's
[17:16] Speaker 2: made the playoffs twice. I mean, part of that was
[17:19] Speaker 2: by his own doing because they ripped the whole thing down,
[17:21] Speaker 2: but he also chose to do that. Like, you don't
[17:23] Speaker 2: get a free pass because you're losing on purpose and
[17:26] Speaker 2: hoping to win one day. If you lose on purpose
[17:29] Speaker 2: and you hope to win, and then you eventually start
[17:31] Speaker 2: to win and make the playoffs multiple times in three
[17:35] Speaker 2: or four years or consecutive years, and you get to
[17:37] Speaker 2: a World Series win, whatever, but I don't think anything
[17:40] Speaker 2: should be off the table when the season's over for
[17:42] Speaker 2: these guys, and I just hope everything is on the table.
[17:44] Speaker 2: I really hope that John Stanton and the powers that
[17:47] Speaker 2: be over there at T-Mobile Park are willing to take
[17:49] Speaker 2: a look at everything, no matter how hard it is, right?
[17:52] Speaker 2: So let's hope they do.

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