# Petros Papadakis on Holmgren, UW Schedule And Offense, Vedder, Ducks

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 16 Sep 2026, 20 min.

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Petros Papadakis of Fox Sports in Los Angeles joins Dave Softy Mahler to talk about Mike Holmgren returning to the show this year, the Huskies’ start to 2026 including the offensive struggles for Washington, the drama with Macklemore right now, Eddie Vedder claiming two cities, and the Oregon Ducks getting upset by Oklahoma State last week. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
[0:03] Speaker 1: Petros Papadakis.
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[0:21] Speaker 2: Baruch atah Adonai, baruch atah Ushallah. And now with Petros,
[0:30] Speaker 2: here's Dave Softy Muller. Losers.
[0:35] Speaker 3: All righty, boys and girls, here we go, the moment
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[1:37] Speaker 2: I'm okay. Somebody sent me a... I don't want to...
[1:40] Speaker 2: We're live, so I don't want to... I don't want
[1:42] Speaker 2: you to get in trouble. Aren't we always live? What
[1:44] Speaker 2: are you talking about, man? Well, sometimes we tape it.
[1:48] Speaker 2: I do an afternoon show, so... Anyway... Didn't you get
[1:54] Speaker 2: in trouble with some other Seattle station? You guys fighting
[1:58] Speaker 2: over Mike Hornbridge's mustache? Some guy sent me a... I
[2:03] Speaker 2: saw some guy giving a five-minute explanation about calling Mike
[2:08] Speaker 2: Holmgren over the weekend and then talking to his daughter.
[2:11] Speaker 2: Some guy. And then having a relationship with you. He
[2:14] Speaker 2: seemed very self-involved. And I'm sure he's a very famous
[2:21] Speaker 2: Seattle sports personality. He is. He is. You're the only
[2:24] Speaker 2: one I know. Right, right, right. I know Brock because
[2:27] Speaker 2: I played against Ivan Drago in college.
[2:29] Speaker 4: You did. You did play against Backfoot Brock when he.
[2:32] Speaker 2: Was at UW. Oh, you know, that's not nice. What
[2:34] Speaker 2: are you talking about? He threw up his back foot
[2:37] Speaker 2: a lot. That's not cool.
[2:38] Speaker 4: He corrected it and went to the NFL and had
[2:40] Speaker 4: a nice career.
[2:40] Speaker 2: All right, okay, whatever. What do you want from me?
[2:43] Speaker 2: You have complicated relationships with all these people, but I
[2:46] Speaker 2: just saw this guy like, I thought there was going
[2:48] Speaker 2: to be like something saucy in there. Right, right. That
[2:51] Speaker 2: I woke up in the middle of the night. And
[2:53] Speaker 2: I saw Softie blowing my door off. He put an
[2:57] Speaker 2: M-80 in my mailbox slot. And he was wearing a
[3:01] Speaker 2: Rashawn Sheehy jersey. I love a Sheehy call.
[3:07] Speaker 3: Like in Jackass, where the guy put fireworks in a
[3:10] Speaker 3: garbage can in his parents' bedroom.
[3:12] Speaker 4: At 12 o'clock at night.
[3:13] Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be something, but all
[3:14] Speaker 2: it was is like Holmgren said he was going to
[3:16] Speaker 2: do it, and then he said he wasn't, and then
[3:17] Speaker 2: he said he wasn't, and then he said he wasn't,
[3:19] Speaker 2: and now he's like, I don't know. Well, Mike Holmgren.
[3:21] Speaker 2: And I was like, what the hell is going on?
[3:23] Speaker 2: Is this a thing?
[3:24] Speaker 3: Mike Holmgren works for us. I mean, I don't know
[3:26] Speaker 3: what to tell you. He's here with us at KJR. Well,
[3:29] Speaker 3: he said he was going to go work for that
[3:30] Speaker 3: one salt and pepper beard guy.
[3:32] Speaker 2: Not anymore. Are you so wild? This is how you
[3:36] Speaker 2: act around people? What are you talking about?
[3:38] Speaker 4: You're asking me a question.
[3:39] Speaker 2: I'm giving you the answer. And he was like, oh, like,
[3:41] Speaker 2: it's soft. He's a dear friend. We've known each other
[3:44] Speaker 2: a long time. Everything's cool. All right, first of all,
[3:47] Speaker 2: the man's name. I was like, wow, what's going on, man?
[3:48] Speaker 2: The drama in the city.
[3:50] Speaker 4: The name of the some guy is Jason Puckett. That's
[3:53] Speaker 4: his name.
[3:54] Speaker 2: Okay.
[3:54] Speaker 4: And I love Jason. Jason has an issue.
[3:57] Speaker 3: He can take it up with me or he can
[3:59] Speaker 3: talk to my people and his people can get together
[4:02] Speaker 3: and they can take it up with each other.
[4:03] Speaker 2: Well, he said something like, I know how people operate
[4:06] Speaker 2: over there and I'll tell you what happened. That's what
[4:08] Speaker 2: he said. I watched the whole video. And he was like,
[4:11] Speaker 2: I know how they are over at KJR. And I'm thinking,
[4:14] Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I go on there every week. I
[4:16] Speaker 2: know how they are too, guy. Yeah, you love it too.
[4:19] Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm part of this. And Holmgren
[4:22] Speaker 2: played with my dad. Really? I didn't know that. Come on.
[4:27] Speaker 2: He was a backup quarterback at USC. And he was
[4:31] Speaker 2: a great card player.
[4:32] Speaker 3: Time out, time out. I know that Mike played quarterback
[4:35] Speaker 3: at USC. Was your father also a quarterback?
[4:38] Speaker 2: No, my father was an all-PAC-8 or whatever the hell
[4:41] Speaker 2: it was, PAC-3 linebacker at USC.
[4:44] Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I'm sorry.
[4:45] Speaker 3: I should have known that. I knew that your dad
[4:47] Speaker 3: played college football. I did not know that he was
[4:50] Speaker 3: an honors candidate, and I did not know that he
[4:53] Speaker 3: played with my— You could go to.
[4:54] Speaker 2: South Bend and look at a wall, and he's on
[4:56] Speaker 2: the Notre Dame all-opponents team. Really? He was on the
[4:59] Speaker 2: cover of the media guide. So wait a minute. Wait
[5:02] Speaker 2: a minute. You're telling me that your dad's on the wall,
[5:04] Speaker 2: but you're not. He's too ugly to be on that wall. Correct. Anyway,
[5:09] Speaker 2: I'm sorry that there's Holmgren mustache drama. No, we're all good.
[5:13] Speaker 2: With Mr. Pocket. And he's like, I know what it's
[5:15] Speaker 2: like at KJR. And I'm like, well, Dick seems like
[5:19] Speaker 2: a pretty benign fella. You know, I talk to him
[5:21] Speaker 2: all the time. And then. You know, Jackson seems like
[5:24] Speaker 2: a good guy. Like, is everybody else like a flaming a-hole?
[5:28] Speaker 2: What's going on up there? Yes, exactly. Don't stoop there. Okay.
[5:32] Speaker 2: I'm just asking, like, because I don't know the landscape,
[5:34] Speaker 2: but this guy's like, I was there a long time,
[5:36] Speaker 2: and I know what it's like. I know what's going
[5:38] Speaker 2: on at TJR. And I was like, wow, that's crazy.
[5:43] Speaker 2: I think everything's fine. I don't know, man. What if
[5:46] Speaker 2: I started fighting with some radio station here over James Worthy? Yeah.
[5:50] Speaker 2: I mean, is James Worthy worth fighting over? He's worthy
[5:53] Speaker 2: of it. Okay. Look at you. Yeah, bitch.
[5:56] Speaker 3: God, I wish I had my real heritage. Well, let
[6:01] Speaker 3: me get to working behind the scenes on that, all right?
[6:04] Speaker 2: And I'll get back to you on the drama. Working
[6:07] Speaker 2: behind the scenes on what? On the drama. You didn't
[6:09] Speaker 2: watch a five-minute video?
[6:10] Speaker 3: No, I've heard about it, but I haven't watched it yet.
[6:12] Speaker 2: It's the best video. Somebody said it to me. It
[6:13] Speaker 2: was like, drama's up north. And I was like, yeah,
[6:16] Speaker 2: let's do it, Doug.
[6:17] Speaker 4: Fantastic.
[6:18] Speaker 2: I watched it. You know what I got a problem
[6:20] Speaker 2: with right now, by the way, big boy? Yeah, leave
[6:22] Speaker 2: me alone. I got a problem. What? UW offense?
[6:25] Speaker 4: No, that's what I was.
[6:26] Speaker 2: Bingo. You know me well. You know how Ralph Lawler
[6:31] Speaker 2: used to say it? How?
[6:33] Speaker 4: The Clippers guy.
[6:33] Speaker 2: The old Clippers announcer. You make a three. Bingo! What's
[6:42] Speaker 2: the problem there, Softy? You don't think they're physical enough
[6:44] Speaker 2: at the point of attack? You don't like the run game?
[6:47] Speaker 2: They have no run game. They can't run the ball.
[6:49] Speaker 2: You don't like the quarterback running around too much like
[6:52] Speaker 2: a chicken with his head cut off?
[6:54] Speaker 4: I don't know, man.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Not enough third down conversions? Not enough converting in the
[6:57] Speaker 2: red zone? Not enough oomph? Not enough crunchiness to that
[7:02] Speaker 2: good cooked fish on the sideline? No.
[7:06] Speaker 3: You like scoring 20 points a game against Wazoo and
[7:08] Speaker 3: Utah State?
[7:09] Speaker 2: Is that what you like? I don't like.
[7:11] Speaker 3: You like barely getting by, barely sneaking by with a
[7:14] Speaker 3: win against those schools?
[7:16] Speaker 2: If Utah State's quarterback had gotten a ninth year like
[7:20] Speaker 2: he should have.
[7:21] Speaker 4: Brosterhausen.
[7:22] Speaker 2: Oh, the guy from last year. Gotcha, gotcha. Barnes. The
[7:26] Speaker 2: guy who was the pig farmer at Utah. The guy
[7:28] Speaker 2: that could run his ass off. Right. If that guy
[7:30] Speaker 2: was out there, you would have lost that game.
[7:32] Speaker 4: Bryson Barnes is the guy you're talking about.
[7:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if Utah State had a little bit
[7:37] Speaker 2: more of a dynamic quarterback, and that kid played pretty well, considering.
[7:42] Speaker 2: I think if Utah State, and you know, Washington made
[7:45] Speaker 2: some undisciplined plays on defense that hurt them in that game,
[7:49] Speaker 2: and there's no margin for error if your offense can't
[7:52] Speaker 2: run the ball or hold the ball or Or get
[7:54] Speaker 2: you what you need. And I'll say this, Softy. If
[7:57] Speaker 2: you're going to make a big spectacle of yourself in
[7:59] Speaker 2: the Apple Cup and throw your, like you're a hard
[8:03] Speaker 2: ass or something, and just throw your headset.
[8:07] Speaker 4: Who threw the, oh, Fish you're talking about.
[8:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to do all that and go
[8:12] Speaker 2: off on the sideline and reporter, not off on the person,
[8:15] Speaker 2: but off on the interview, we can't get one yard,
[8:18] Speaker 2: we can't do this. Well, and then that doesn't, and
[8:20] Speaker 2: then the next week your team looks flatter and less physical.
[8:24] Speaker 2: on the side of the ball that you're a quote-unquote
[8:26] Speaker 2: genius in, that doesn't look great. Now, let's be fair.
[8:32] Speaker 2: Football teams take time to develop their identity, and sometimes
[8:37] Speaker 2: it takes a week or two, and teams change and
[8:40] Speaker 2: things can change, and an offensive line can change. I've
[8:42] Speaker 2: seen it. And Jed Fish is a proven offensive coach.
[8:46] Speaker 2: So perhaps things can and will change. Who do we
[8:50] Speaker 2: got this week? Eastern. Michigan? Michigan? Come on, man.
[8:56] Speaker 4: Washington.
[8:57] Speaker 2: What? What do you mean, come on, man? Like, Eastern
[9:00] Speaker 2: Michigan is so out of the realm? No, but Eastern, Eastern.
[9:03] Speaker 2: I did a Kent State versus Washington game once, okay? Wow, geez. Anyway, okay, yeah.
[9:08] Speaker 2: Scraping the bottom of the barrel there. Well, you know,
[9:11] Speaker 2: if they shut up, you know, that's what my career
[9:13] Speaker 2: has become. Leave me alone. Somebody on Twitter the other
[9:16] Speaker 2: day was like, well, your light is really dim. Oh,
[9:19] Speaker 2: that's horrible. Yeah.
[9:22] Speaker 4: Exactly.
[9:23] Speaker 2: Up yours, man. But you know what? I think about
[9:26] Speaker 2: my situation, and then I think about the poor guy
[9:28] Speaker 2: that can't get homegrown on, and I'm like, you know what?
[9:32] Speaker 3: Eastern Washington, but I tell you what, man. If they struggle, look,
[9:36] Speaker 3: if they.
[9:36] Speaker 2: Struggle defensively or offensively, excuse me, their defense is doing okay, right?
[9:42] Speaker 2: If they struggle offensively, Against Eastern. That's, that's not a
[9:47] Speaker 2: great sign. That's, that's, that's a pandemic.
[9:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[9:51] Speaker 2: Yeah. And, and look, if you're USC, you're smiling. Not
[9:56] Speaker 2: that they have, I mean, and I give more credit
[9:58] Speaker 2: to playing Utah State. Well, maybe not Utah State, but
[10:01] Speaker 2: certainly playing the Apple Cup. Well, maybe not even the
[10:04] Speaker 2: Apple Cup. But you look at who USC has played
[10:07] Speaker 2: to start. Right. Nobody.
[10:08] Speaker 3: Nobody.
[10:09] Speaker 2: Well, they played San Jose, which is the same as Fresno. Louisiana. Yeah, Louisiana.
[10:16] Speaker 2: Now they've got Rutgers this Saturday. Well, and Rutgers is
[10:19] Speaker 2: in the conference. But Louisiana put 30 on USC. And
[10:24] Speaker 2: San Jose put 26 on it. Fresno didn't play well.
[10:28] Speaker 2: But Fresno is supposed to be the same level as
[10:31] Speaker 2: Wazoo or Oregon State, I guess. I don't know. I
[10:37] Speaker 2: don't suppose how we're supposed to look at it. But
[10:39] Speaker 2: there's not much to learn about your team if they
[10:42] Speaker 2: don't play really tough competition. And then you look at Washington,
[10:46] Speaker 2: who's supposed to be really good, and you can argue
[10:48] Speaker 2: you don't really know what kind of competition Washington State
[10:52] Speaker 2: or Utah State are going to end up being. Both
[10:55] Speaker 2: have had kind of slow starts on the year. And
[10:59] Speaker 2: you say, gosh, do we suck? I mean, I remember
[11:02] Speaker 2: a long time ago we opened the season against Penn
[11:04] Speaker 2: State in one of those week zero games in the Meadowlands.
[11:08] Speaker 2: And Joe Paterno's the coach, for God's sakes. It's Penn State.
[11:12] Speaker 2: And we beat them, and I scored a touchdown and
[11:13] Speaker 2: all that. And then the next week we had a bye,
[11:16] Speaker 2: and I was so excited to get up and watch
[11:18] Speaker 2: Penn State kick Toledo's ass, right? Because we just kicked
[11:21] Speaker 2: Penn State's ass. And I got drunk and was a
[11:24] Speaker 2: little hungover, and I woke up late, and it was
[11:26] Speaker 2: 21-0 Toledo. And it's like, oh my God, do we suck?
[11:31] Speaker 2: Do we suck? And it turned out, yeah, we did. Yeah.
[11:33] Speaker 4: Well, we're going to find out a lot Saturday.
[11:35] Speaker 2: No doubt.
[11:36] Speaker 4: I mean, you're exactly right.
[11:37] Speaker 3: If they can't run the ball against these guys, and
[11:39] Speaker 3: they are banged up beyond belief, man, at running back
[11:43] Speaker 3: and at wide receiver.
[11:43] Speaker 2: Well, if you're going to start throwing things around on
[11:46] Speaker 2: the sideline and acting all hard in the first half
[11:49] Speaker 2: of the very first game. Where do you go from there?
[11:52] Speaker 2: I was pissed.
[11:53] Speaker 4: He wasn't happy.
[11:53] Speaker 2: Well, look, it's like when I'm doing a game with
[11:55] Speaker 2: a young play-by-play guy, and a guy has, like, a
[11:57] Speaker 2: three-yard run, and the play-by-play guy's like, breaks the tackle!
[12:01] Speaker 2: There you go! It's like, where are we going to
[12:04] Speaker 2: go from there, dude? Like, what are we going to
[12:06] Speaker 2: do if there's, like, an 80-yard touchdown? Are you going to, like,
[12:08] Speaker 2: rip out your liver and throw it onto the 50?
[12:10] Speaker 2: How are we going to top that one? He's going
[12:15] Speaker 2: to reach into his chest. I know that there's a
[12:17] Speaker 2: lot of people here.
[12:18] Speaker 4: People are excited.
[12:19] Speaker 2: Blaming heart. Wow.
[12:22] Speaker 3: You're saying he's got to calm down with the dramatics
[12:24] Speaker 3: a little bit and work up to it. And, you know,
[12:29] Speaker 3: when you're a performative like that, you've got to pick
[12:32] Speaker 3: your spots.
[12:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because when you do it in the first game
[12:35] Speaker 2: and then you go out against Utah and your offense
[12:37] Speaker 2: lays an egg again. Right. And your quarterback's got to
[12:40] Speaker 2: run around like, you know, he's Randall Cunningham just to
[12:44] Speaker 2: make the offense look halfway decent. You're in trouble. And
[12:47] Speaker 2: I watch the highlights, so I know what's going on.
[12:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, save that anger for something else. Save that anger for, like, Macklemore.
[12:55] Speaker 3: Save it for him.
[12:56] Speaker 2: Oh, what's the matter? You fighting with Macklemore these days? No,
[12:59] Speaker 2: I'm not. Has he ever been on your show?
[13:01] Speaker 4: No, I don't think he has.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Well, maybe he has. I don't know. Good question.
[13:05] Speaker 3: I just remember you called him a chump like a
[13:08] Speaker 3: year ago on the air, and I was like, that
[13:09] Speaker 3: might be a little bit aggressive.
[13:11] Speaker 2: And then I'm like, wow, he might be right. You know,
[13:13] Speaker 2: I used to go to yoga with this one teacher.
[13:17] Speaker 2: When I first started practicing yoga, I would take, just
[13:20] Speaker 2: because of the schedule, I would take, and I liked
[13:22] Speaker 2: the classes, I would take this one teacher maybe twice
[13:25] Speaker 2: a week. And she had a real proclivity to play
[13:28] Speaker 2: just terrible, not just the Macklemore songs that you know,
[13:32] Speaker 2: but she was like deep cuts Macklemore. And it made
[13:37] Speaker 2: me just so much, so hate him.
[13:39] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[13:40] Speaker 2: And I come from a time where a white rapper
[13:43] Speaker 2: was to be shamed. You know what I mean? Yeah,
[13:46] Speaker 2: I do. And now I understand that there's all kinds
[13:49] Speaker 2: of whites rapping and rappers that wear tight pants, which
[13:53] Speaker 2: would have never been okay to wear tight pants and
[13:56] Speaker 2: rap in my era. It would have never been accepted.
[13:59] Speaker 2: And I know that things have changed in the world,
[14:03] Speaker 2: but it's very hard for me to accept like a
[14:06] Speaker 2: white activist rapper from Seattle. It's like, please. You know,
[14:11] Speaker 2: if it's not Kid Sensation, the teenage lady killer. That's right.
[14:15] Speaker 2: Or Sir Mix-a-Lot, of course, and their friend Larry, the
[14:19] Speaker 2: white guy, who I believe had a very different stance
[14:23] Speaker 2: on problems in the Middle East, then I don't want
[14:25] Speaker 2: to hear it. I really don't want to hear any
[14:28] Speaker 2: Seattle rap from a white guy. I'm sorry. Unless it's Larry.
[14:34] Speaker 2: Larry's fine. The song My Posse's on Broadway. Yeah. with
[14:38] Speaker 2: Sir Mix-a-Lot. Yes. And they did go to what's the
[14:42] Speaker 2: name of it? Dix? Dix. Yes, I've been to Dix.
[14:45] Speaker 4: Dix is the place for the cool hangout.
[14:46] Speaker 2: Cool hangout. That's right. That's right. Look, I'm no fool, okay?
[14:51] Speaker 2: And I understand Mother Love Bone. What? You need to
[14:54] Speaker 2: move on? No, not at all. Why are you growling?
[14:56] Speaker 4: I got something stuck in my throat.
[14:58] Speaker 2: Is that okay? I don't know. Jesus, man. I am
[15:00] Speaker 2: upset about the offense.
[15:01] Speaker 4: I know about Mother Love Bone.
[15:03] Speaker 2: And Allison James and stupid-ass Pearl Jam. And you know what?
[15:11] Speaker 2: I'm so over Pearl Jam. Why? Because Eddie Vedder tries
[15:15] Speaker 2: to act like he's from San Diego, he's from Seattle. Oh, yeah,
[15:18] Speaker 2: and also he's a huge Cubs fan. It's like, dude,
[15:20] Speaker 2: F you, buddy. Pick a town.
[15:25] Speaker 4: We have the Vedder Cup up here. You know what
[15:27] Speaker 4: that is? Yeah, it sucks.
[15:28] Speaker 2: Mariners versus the Padres. No one wants it.
[15:31] Speaker 3: We're supposed to hate each other's guts. Oh, you're a
[15:33] Speaker 3: Padre fan?
[15:35] Speaker 2: You know?
[15:36] Speaker 4: You know why I hate somebody? Play Even Flow on
[15:38] Speaker 4: a loop. We're supposed to hate Padre fans like we
[15:41] Speaker 4: hate Oregon fans.
[15:42] Speaker 2: And F you, Eddie Vedder, for everybody singing like the
[15:46] Speaker 2: whole 90s just because of one guy. Every white dude
[15:50] Speaker 2: had to sing like that.
[15:51] Speaker 4: By the way, speaking of.
[15:56] Speaker 3: God, you sound like... Who's the guy from The Muppets?
[15:58] Speaker 3: What the hell's his name? Beaker or something, whatever.
[16:02] Speaker 2: No, not Beaker, the other guy. What's the guy that
[16:04] Speaker 2: sounds like that? Come on, help me out here. Animal? No, no, no.
[16:08] Speaker 2: Who's that guy? Dr. Teeth? The animal.
[16:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, the animal.
[16:11] Speaker 1: Dr.
[16:11] Speaker 2: Teeth?
[16:12] Speaker 4: Yeah, the animal.
[16:12] Speaker 2: No, the animal. The animal.
[16:15] Speaker 4: Speaking of the Ducks, holy crap. You see that Saturday?
[16:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a little bit like Washington, right? In both
[16:22] Speaker 2: their games, they didn't look physical enough. But you're shocked,
[16:27] Speaker 2: more shocked, when you see the Ducks not look physical.
[16:30] Speaker 3: I'll take our defense over Oregon's defense all day right now.
[16:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you didn't go to the hellhole of Stillwater
[16:36] Speaker 2: and face Mr. Maker. That is true. Who will make
[16:40] Speaker 2: you meet your maker at Eskimo Joe's after the game. No,
[16:46] Speaker 2: I agree. I think, you know, I think what the
[16:49] Speaker 2: smart people, the guys that are really close to it,
[16:52] Speaker 2: like Wilner and old Johnny Cans and everybody else are
[16:55] Speaker 2: saying How many coordinators could they afford to lose? Starting
[17:00] Speaker 2: with Kenny Dillingham, who was a hot coordinator there in
[17:03] Speaker 2: year one with Dan Lanning. It looks like they're struggling
[17:07] Speaker 2: there a little bit. Look, we're used to Oregon dominating
[17:11] Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage in this era, which is crazy.
[17:15] Speaker 2: It sounds wrong, and I don't like saying it either,
[17:17] Speaker 2: but it's true. Usually, that's how we used to talk
[17:21] Speaker 2: about USC and their front. We don't really talk like
[17:24] Speaker 2: that because their coach is soft. So this is what
[17:29] Speaker 2: Oregon kind of looks like right now. And then Dante
[17:32] Speaker 2: Moore is being called into question. But I do think
[17:36] Speaker 2: they've lost something with their play calling.
[17:38] Speaker 1: Right.
[17:39] Speaker 2: And again, you know, losing a tough game on the
[17:43] Speaker 2: road can turn around and change things. Even losing a
[17:46] Speaker 2: game late in the season, like we saw with Ohio
[17:48] Speaker 2: State and Michigan a couple years back, a team can
[17:53] Speaker 2: turn around and still be great. And I'm saying that
[17:57] Speaker 2: about Washington, too. So I think they still have time
[18:00] Speaker 2: to rebuild themselves. But I think they got out-physicaled by Boise,
[18:05] Speaker 2: and they got out-efforted and physicaled by Oklahoma State. Yeah.
[18:11] Speaker 2: And pointing to the coordinators, I think, is a valid
[18:14] Speaker 2: criticism because they've lost so much there over the years
[18:17] Speaker 2: because they've been so good. What can you do?
[18:18] Speaker 3: We'll see what happens in a couple weeks when they
[18:20] Speaker 3: head to– are they going to L.A. or are the
[18:22] Speaker 3: Trojans going to Eugene? Where's that game? You know, where's
[18:27] Speaker 3: that game at?
[18:27] Speaker 2: I think it's here. It's there?
[18:29] Speaker 3: All right. Well, either way, we got you down there
[18:31] Speaker 3: in a few weeks. I'm going to be there. Yeah,
[18:33] Speaker 3: you got the radio deal done.
[18:35] Speaker 2: Are you going to book me on the Husky Honks?
[18:36] Speaker 3: Abso-fricking-lutely. You're coming over there, pal. You're going to hang
[18:40] Speaker 3: out with us. You and me together again in the
[18:42] Speaker 3: booth where we first met. Just like old times, man.
[18:48] Speaker 2: I might need your protection. I'm not too popular over there.
[18:50] Speaker 4: That's what I heard.
[18:51] Speaker 2: I don't like hearing that, though. He's too ugly to
[18:53] Speaker 2: be on that wall.
[18:54] Speaker 3: I've got a lot of people I know that work
[18:56] Speaker 3: at USC now.
[18:58] Speaker 2: They're salty with you, man. I am not popular. I
[19:01] Speaker 2: don't care. Bring up your name and it's like Voldemort.
[19:04] Speaker 2: Forget it. I'm very hateful. You are not. You are not.
[19:09] Speaker 4: All right, we'll talk about it.
[19:11] Speaker 2: You could make an argument that I haven't been happy
[19:13] Speaker 2: about it for years.
[19:14] Speaker 4: Well, but you've had a right to not be happy
[19:16] Speaker 4: about it.
[19:16] Speaker 3: I mean, what the hell has there been to be
[19:18] Speaker 3: happy about?
[19:18] Speaker 2: At USC. Hey, does it bother you to see DeBoer
[19:22] Speaker 2: looking so skinny?
[19:23] Speaker 3: It's really creepy, man. He needs to have a meatball
[19:26] Speaker 3: sub or a cheeseburger.
[19:28] Speaker 2: I like fat DeBoer. I like fat Fresno UW DeBoer.
[19:32] Speaker 4: I'm 100% with you.
[19:32] Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with skinny DeBoer. Who
[19:36] Speaker 2: moves to the south and gets all skinny? Isn't it
[19:39] Speaker 2: the other way around?
[19:40] Speaker 3: All that grease, all that lard you're eating down there, right?
[19:43] Speaker 3: You think you put some weight on, man.
[19:45] Speaker 2: I don't know. It must be the stress of the job,
[19:47] Speaker 2: living under the feathered hair of Nick Saban and all
[19:49] Speaker 2: his friends. hypocrisy.
[19:50] Speaker 4: 100%.
[19:50] Speaker 2: 100%.
[19:50] Speaker 4: All right, good stuff.
[19:53] Speaker 2: All right, you're a bitch.
[19:54] Speaker 4: We'll talk in a week.
[19:55] Speaker 2: See you.
[19:56] Speaker 4: Patrick Fox.
[19:59] Speaker 2: Papa Doc is with us on the show. We're going
[20:02] Speaker 2: to break. Kevin Harlan, by the way. Unvaccinated folks.
[20:06] Speaker 4: Will join us at 5 on 93.3 KJRFM.

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