# Kevin Harlan on Seattle’s Win v. KC, Schneider, Nelson, Bears, Browns

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 29 Oct 2026, 21 min.

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Kevin Harlan of Westwood One and CBS joins Dave Softy Mahler to talk about Seattle’s win over Kansas City on Sunday night, John Schneider’s place among the best General Managers in the game, the Seahawks adding Quenton Nelson from Indianapolis, Bears coming to Seattle for Monday Night Football, and the Browns vs. Steelers for the North. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

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[0:22] Speaker 3: They are NFL champions. The Seattle Seahawks have won Super
[0:26] Speaker 3: Bowl XLVIII.
[0:27] Speaker 4: This is Softee's weekly visit with Kevin Harlan.
[0:30] Speaker 3: He was like a pinball banging off bodies. A 23-yard
[0:34] Speaker 3: catch and run.
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[0:47] Speaker 2: and win all season long.
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[0:53] Speaker 5: pretty dominating fashion.
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[0:59] Speaker 3: Cowboys have it first down and 10. They're at the
[1:03] Speaker 3: 16-yard line of Philadelphia. Shotgun snap to Prescott. Winds up.
[1:06] Speaker 3: Arching pass. End zone.
[1:07] Speaker 4: Caught over the shoulder.
[1:08] Speaker 3: Touchdown in the corner.
[1:09] Speaker 4: Lamb!
[1:12] Speaker 3: His second of the night.
[1:14] Speaker 5: A 16-yard perfectly thrown pass by Jack Prescott. And the
[1:20] Speaker 5: Cowboys in the game's sixth lead change. Go up 26
[1:26] Speaker 5: to 21.
[1:26] Speaker 4: Ah, hell of a call. Heck of a call.
[1:29] Speaker 6: Heck of a call there by our friend Kevin Harlan
[1:31] Speaker 6: with the NFL on Westwood 1 on Monday night for
[1:34] Speaker 6: the Bears game.
[1:35] Speaker 4: I wonder if Kevin Harlan ever hears a call of
[1:38] Speaker 4: his and goes, you know what? I am so good. God,
[1:41] Speaker 4: am I good.
[1:42] Speaker 6: Just look in the mirror and see that face smiling
[1:45] Speaker 6: back at you and go, man, you are good at
[1:48] Speaker 6: what you do. Kevin, you ever think that, that you
[1:50] Speaker 6: are just really right?
[1:52] Speaker 3: No, I actually don't. I actually don't. You know, I've
[1:55] Speaker 3: got a sequence of things on every play. Like on
[1:59] Speaker 3: that play you just played right there, I wish I'd
[2:01] Speaker 3: have mentioned the rush. I usually do. For whatever reason,
[2:04] Speaker 3: I didn't, you know, and I don't even know what
[2:06] Speaker 3: kind of rush it was. It must not have been
[2:07] Speaker 3: very significant or I think I would have probably said something. No,
[2:12] Speaker 3: I think it's a very imperfect and perfect business. Trying
[2:17] Speaker 3: to be perfect is always the challenge like you and
[2:20] Speaker 3: like me and everybody else in this business. We try
[2:23] Speaker 3: to do, you know, the best work possible, but I, I,
[2:27] Speaker 3: I listen to every broadcast and I cringe. I go,
[2:29] Speaker 3: why didn't I say this? Or why didn't I use that?
[2:31] Speaker 3: Or why did I say that?
[2:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:33] Speaker 3: No, I do. I do.
[2:34] Speaker 6: All of it.
[2:35] Speaker 3: All of it. All of it.
[2:36] Speaker 4: Well, I got to be honest with you. I was
[2:38] Speaker 4: just being nice.
[2:39] Speaker 3: I'm with you.
[2:39] Speaker 4: I thought that was just a mediocre.
[2:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, good. Thank you. Well, honesty is with you and
[2:43] Speaker 3: me is the only thing that really links us.
[2:45] Speaker 6: Well, you're going to be here on Monday again for
[2:48] Speaker 6: the Monday night game with the Bears. And I know
[2:50] Speaker 6: you got a couple games. You got some NBA stuff.
[2:53] Speaker 6: You got, what, Cleveland-Pittsburgh. That's all of a sudden a
[2:56] Speaker 6: big one coming up on Sunday, maybe with a comeback
[2:59] Speaker 6: player of the year. And there's Sean Watson. We'll chat
[3:01] Speaker 6: about that in a minute. Man, the Hawks put a whooping, Kevin,
[3:04] Speaker 6: on Kansas City. They did things to Patrick Mahomes and
[3:08] Speaker 6: Andy Reid that nobody really does. Tied for fewest points allowed,
[3:12] Speaker 6: second fewest yards, I think. Kansas City did not have
[3:16] Speaker 6: a trip to the red zone the entire day. Mahomes
[3:19] Speaker 6: is pressured on over 50% of his passes. And it
[3:23] Speaker 6: seems like a game. And then when you couple it
[3:26] Speaker 6: with the Quentin Nelson trade from yesterday... God, it feels
[3:30] Speaker 6: like there's a lot of Seahawks buzz around the NFL
[3:32] Speaker 6: right now, man.
[3:33] Speaker 3: Well, there should be. That was, for the Chiefs, clearly
[3:37] Speaker 3: the worst they've looked all year. But I'd even go
[3:40] Speaker 3: back maybe, I mean, maybe at some of their low
[3:43] Speaker 3: times last year. I cannot believe how bad they look.
[3:49] Speaker 3: And I think they are really licking their chops. Their
[3:51] Speaker 3: kicker didn't help himself. They just signed Justin Tucker, I think,
[3:55] Speaker 3: today to the practice squad. because now Harrison Butker is
[3:59] Speaker 3: on notice. The Hawks played defensively. They loaded the box.
[4:04] Speaker 3: They dared the Chiefs to throw. The Chiefs had no
[4:07] Speaker 3: elite receiving help, and what coverage they provided was definitely enough.
[4:12] Speaker 3: They pressured the quarterback because, again, they were starting a
[4:15] Speaker 3: backup at the right tackle. We know they start a
[4:19] Speaker 3: rookie free agent at the left tackle. When you have...
[4:25] Speaker 3: when you don't have a number one receiver, when you
[4:27] Speaker 3: don't have elite receiving help, you're screwed. And by the way,
[4:33] Speaker 3: that almost goes hand in hand with not having a
[4:36] Speaker 3: running attack. You know, really, Walker did about as much
[4:39] Speaker 3: as he could against a defense that was geared to
[4:42] Speaker 3: stop him. And the Chiefs had no plan B. They
[4:46] Speaker 3: looked bewildered, completely frustrated. And I love that the Hawks
[4:52] Speaker 3: came out and did what a lot of defenses have
[4:55] Speaker 3: tried to do, but they pulled it off so successfully.
[4:58] Speaker 3: It was a master class in defense. And then you
[5:01] Speaker 3: had Jackson, who just, some of those passes, by the way,
[5:05] Speaker 3: by Darnold, were just dimes.
[5:07] Speaker 2: Wow.
[5:08] Speaker 3: Just so beautifully thrown. And all he needs is a
[5:12] Speaker 3: little time, and you can see what he can do
[5:14] Speaker 3: when he's got it. But having that elite receiver is
[5:17] Speaker 3: just priceless. And last year he had the receiver, and
[5:21] Speaker 3: he had the running back. Now we get a couple
[5:23] Speaker 3: guys back. Charbonnet is coming back. Price is probably not
[5:27] Speaker 3: too far away. And now he's going to be whole.
[5:29] Speaker 3: That offense will be whole. And then as you accurately say,
[5:32] Speaker 3: they add Nelson. There's not a better guard in pro
[5:35] Speaker 3: football than Quentin Nelson. And he's going to the Hall
[5:38] Speaker 3: of Fame someday. And now he's going to finish as
[5:41] Speaker 3: a Seahawk. And I know he's got just a year
[5:43] Speaker 3: left on the deal. I hope John signs him. But again,
[5:46] Speaker 3: another incredible move by Snyder, who last year got Shahid,
[5:52] Speaker 3: now picks up line help. He saw what he needed
[5:55] Speaker 3: to see in those first six games. Then he needed
[5:58] Speaker 3: to see what he saw this past weekend. They're ready
[6:01] Speaker 3: for a run. I really believe it. With the Rams
[6:04] Speaker 3: staggering and the injured 49ers and the Cardinals still in rebuild,
[6:08] Speaker 3: the door is open. And I think he saw the opportunity.
[6:12] Speaker 4: You are a student of NFL history.
[6:15] Speaker 6: Right. There's no doubt your dad worked in the NFL.
[6:19] Speaker 6: Your brother works, you know, in professional sports. You obviously
[6:23] Speaker 6: work in the NFL. You mentioned Schneider there a couple
[6:26] Speaker 6: of times and what he did with a totally rebuilt
[6:28] Speaker 6: roster winning another title in Seattle. I mean, you think
[6:33] Speaker 6: about all the great, you know, presidents of football operations,
[6:37] Speaker 6: general managers in the history of this league. Where does
[6:40] Speaker 6: John Schneider sit right now? Kind of on that list
[6:44] Speaker 6: for you, you think?
[6:46] Speaker 3: Currently, I think he's the best, but I've thought that
[6:49] Speaker 3: for many ways, this is 17th year in the organization.
[6:51] Speaker 3: Am I correct?
[6:52] Speaker 4: Yes. 2000, 2010, 2010 was his first year.
[6:56] Speaker 1: Right.
[6:56] Speaker 3: So he, to me is the best right now has
[6:59] Speaker 3: been the best. Um, probably, you know, Veach in Kansas
[7:03] Speaker 3: city has to be considered. I think Ozzie, uh, Newsom
[7:06] Speaker 3: at Baltimore when he was still active was right there. Um,
[7:11] Speaker 3: there are a handful of them, you know, I, I
[7:13] Speaker 3: think Snead had kind of built, unfortunately, that's, It's only
[7:16] Speaker 3: been the one title, but I think he does a
[7:18] Speaker 3: pretty good job with the Rams. I think John is
[7:22] Speaker 3: showing the wherewithal he has with the 49ers, Lynch. And
[7:28] Speaker 3: I know I'm missing some, but those are the ones
[7:31] Speaker 3: that to me, I think George Payton at Denver is
[7:33] Speaker 3: pretty clever. I think he's done a good job building
[7:36] Speaker 3: that roster with the Broncos. I mean, they're not hard
[7:39] Speaker 3: to find. They stand out. Ryan Pohl, I think, is
[7:42] Speaker 3: getting momentum as the guy and In Chicago, I mean,
[7:45] Speaker 3: we could go and you could probably pick and choose
[7:47] Speaker 3: a couple more guys. Schneider right there is the very top.
[7:53] Speaker 3: And he just has such a feel. Now, listen, he's
[7:57] Speaker 3: a family friend, so I'm a little bit biased here.
[8:01] Speaker 3: My dad worked with him when he was in Green Bay.
[8:04] Speaker 3: He knows our family. He is a family friend. My
[8:07] Speaker 3: brother just talked to him last week. My brother's an
[8:09] Speaker 3: agent for the Harbaugh's. My brother, like, so... He's a
[8:12] Speaker 3: family friend. So even if I try to take all
[8:15] Speaker 3: that bias out of it, I would still put him
[8:17] Speaker 3: at number one.
[8:18] Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, I just think whether he's a
[8:20] Speaker 4: friend or not, right?
[8:21] Speaker 6: I mean, you can make an argument, right, you know,
[8:23] Speaker 6: against him and all the guys in the history of
[8:25] Speaker 6: the NFL and the guys that are going now. But
[8:27] Speaker 6: Kevin Harlan's with us, courtesy of the Emerald Queen, obviously.
[8:30] Speaker 6: And look, I mean, the running game for the Seahawks,
[8:33] Speaker 6: I'm curious what you see Monday night against Chicago, hoping
[8:36] Speaker 6: that Charbonnet is back and hoping that Price can get
[8:39] Speaker 6: back and they can get those guys on the same field.
[8:42] Speaker 6: for at least a game before the deadline. They got
[8:44] Speaker 6: two more games before the deadline with the Bears on
[8:47] Speaker 6: Monday and then the Cardinals here the following Sunday. But,
[8:50] Speaker 6: I mean, if there's going to be a fire sale
[8:52] Speaker 6: in Indianapolis and Jonathan Taylor wants out, I know the
[8:56] Speaker 6: name Tony Pollard has also come up on the trade market,
[8:59] Speaker 6: but does Schneider need to keep going and get this
[9:01] Speaker 6: team a running back to take advantage of this kick-ass defense, man?
[9:05] Speaker 3: Well, I agree. He's got a little bit of time,
[9:08] Speaker 3: and clearly the names you mentioned, Pollard and clearly Taylor
[9:15] Speaker 3: with the Colts are on everybody's radar. Some teams are
[9:18] Speaker 3: beginning to sell like crazy. I think we're going to
[9:20] Speaker 3: see some of that with the Chargers. These teams that
[9:23] Speaker 3: are out of it now are thinking, let's start to
[9:25] Speaker 3: rebuild a half year early and let's get some picks.
[9:30] Speaker 3: Because when you get picks and you draft wisely, you
[9:33] Speaker 3: get favorable contracts you can work with and build the
[9:36] Speaker 3: rest of your roster. And then you hit free agency
[9:39] Speaker 3: after you after you hopefully have drafted with a very
[9:41] Speaker 3: deft move at each slot. So these are things that
[9:45] Speaker 3: reside in the minds of these GMs. These are smart people.
[9:49] Speaker 3: You've got the smartest in the league in Seattle right now.
[9:52] Speaker 3: I thought Emmanuel Wilson really ran well the other night,
[9:54] Speaker 3: i gotta be honest um and i think they've gotten
[9:57] Speaker 3: by um i i they know and i think a
[10:02] Speaker 3: lot is going to be predicated on what they think
[10:04] Speaker 3: charbonnet is going to be be able to provide and
[10:08] Speaker 3: and then what price is like after coming he's a
[10:10] Speaker 3: rookie he's had limited carries and he's still very young
[10:14] Speaker 3: and very new to this league um but these guys
[10:17] Speaker 3: can mature in a hurry he's a smart kid incredibly talented.
[10:21] Speaker 3: That may be enough. They may be done. But I
[10:25] Speaker 3: don't know anybody that's made two better moves in the
[10:27] Speaker 3: last two years. I'm assuming Nelson will go in and
[10:30] Speaker 3: start and have the impact that everybody anticipates. And he's
[10:34] Speaker 3: a great teammate and he's a class kid. He fits right,
[10:37] Speaker 3: I think, in that framework of the culture of the
[10:40] Speaker 3: Seahawks that they've tried to establish and develop over the years,
[10:44] Speaker 3: beginning with Pete and I'll continue with Mike. So I'm
[10:47] Speaker 3: bullish on that deal. They may be dumb. They may
[10:50] Speaker 3: feel they have enough.
[10:51] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[10:52] Speaker 6: Well, you're going to be here Monday night for the game,
[10:54] Speaker 6: and I will tell you this, and you can feel
[10:56] Speaker 6: free to use this on the broadcast, by the way.
[10:58] Speaker 3: Well, hold on. Let me get a pen because I
[10:59] Speaker 3: always take what you put, and I want to put
[11:01] Speaker 3: it on the game. Put it on for the national audience, yes.
[11:04] Speaker 6: I think you write it down and then make a note,
[11:06] Speaker 6: do not mention this on the broadcast on Monday night.
[11:09] Speaker 6: You got one of the best third down offenses in
[11:12] Speaker 6: football versus the number two best third down defense in
[11:16] Speaker 6: football facing each other on Monday night. Maybe the future
[11:20] Speaker 6: of the quarterback position in Caleb Williams versus the presence
[11:24] Speaker 6: of elite defenses in the dark side. How do you
[11:28] Speaker 6: kind of analyze and handicap this matchup Monday night, man?
[11:32] Speaker 3: I think it's the premier game of the week. I
[11:35] Speaker 3: think Cleveland and Pittsburgh is probably a close second. And Denver,
[11:39] Speaker 3: Kansas City is huge. This game is, to me, the best.
[11:45] Speaker 3: I will say this about Caleb Williams. I don't know
[11:49] Speaker 3: if the league has had a better arm talent come
[11:52] Speaker 3: into the NFL since Aaron Rodgers. And I thought Rodgers
[11:57] Speaker 3: was the best arm talent I had seen maybe since Marino. Rogers,
[12:04] Speaker 3: to me, at his peak, at his prime, was probably
[12:08] Speaker 3: the best arm talent. I'm not saying best quarterback, but
[12:11] Speaker 3: had the best arm talent of any quarterback I've personally seen. Now,
[12:16] Speaker 3: I've called Marino's games. I called Elway's games. You know,
[12:20] Speaker 3: I've done all those guys. And I think Mahomes is special.
[12:27] Speaker 3: To me, Caleb Williams' arm talent is about as dramatic
[12:34] Speaker 3: an insert into the NFL now as Rodgers was when
[12:38] Speaker 3: he became a starter in Green Bay after year three
[12:41] Speaker 3: or four after Favre was sent to the Jets. I
[12:46] Speaker 3: just think he's bigger than you anticipate. I was on
[12:50] Speaker 3: the field a couple weeks ago, and I saw him
[12:53] Speaker 3: in the tunnel, and they were getting ready to play
[12:56] Speaker 3: the Eagles. This was week three of the NFL season.
[13:00] Speaker 3: on our Monday night game from Soldier Field. He's bigger
[13:03] Speaker 3: than you think. I'm not talking about him as a
[13:06] Speaker 3: play caller. I'm not talking about his acumen. I'm just
[13:09] Speaker 3: talking about arm talent. It's as good as I've seen
[13:12] Speaker 3: coming to the league since Rodgers. Yeah.
[13:14] Speaker 4: No, I'm with you.
[13:15] Speaker 6: I saw him play in person in 2023 at LA
[13:18] Speaker 6: against Michael Penix at USC, and I was blown away.
[13:21] Speaker 6: I mean, look, I think the guy's a little odd.
[13:23] Speaker 6: He's a little bit of a drama king, to be
[13:24] Speaker 6: honest with you. You know, all that stuff. But he's
[13:27] Speaker 6: a hell of a player. There's no doubt about it.
[13:29] Speaker 6: But I mean, the matchup to me, Caleb Williams versus
[13:32] Speaker 6: the dark side. How about Mike McDonald versus Ben Johnson?
[13:36] Speaker 6: I mean, my God, I always think I want the
[13:38] Speaker 6: defensive wizard over the offensive wizard. And that played out
[13:42] Speaker 6: in this game with the chiefs on Sunday night. But
[13:45] Speaker 6: I mean, to me, this is, you know, two young
[13:47] Speaker 6: guys and Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald that they might
[13:49] Speaker 6: be going head to head for some pretty important playoff
[13:52] Speaker 6: games for the next 15 years.
[13:54] Speaker 3: I think they're the best two young coaches in pro
[13:56] Speaker 3: football right now.
[13:57] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:58] Speaker 3: Mike has proven it, and Ben continues to prove it
[14:02] Speaker 3: in Chicago. They're innovative, but especially Johnson. He's innovative. He
[14:08] Speaker 3: inherited pretty much a disaster. He has put a completely
[14:13] Speaker 3: different stamp on this team. They truly believe. They're not done.
[14:17] Speaker 3: They're still rebuilding. They need, you know, maybe a little
[14:20] Speaker 3: bit more at some of these other positions. But they finally,
[14:23] Speaker 3: I think, got some depth at receiver with some game changers.
[14:26] Speaker 3: They like their offensive line. They can run the ball.
[14:29] Speaker 3: The quarterback develops literally series by series. Defensively, they've had
[14:35] Speaker 3: some injuries they've had to contend with. I think that
[14:37] Speaker 3: is still a work in progress. If you want to
[14:42] Speaker 3: see what every owner is after in a head coach
[14:46] Speaker 3: in the NFL today, it's these two guys.
[14:48] Speaker 4: Well, Kevin Harlan's with us.
[14:50] Speaker 6: He'll be on the call Monday night for the Seahawks
[14:52] Speaker 6: and Bears in town. Second time so far this year,
[14:55] Speaker 6: by the way. I think you're coming back, aren't you,
[14:57] Speaker 6: for a third trip? We got the Cowboys, I think,
[15:00] Speaker 6: on Monday Night Football.
[15:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, I just did the Cowboys in Philly on Monday.
[15:05] Speaker 3: Great offense, horrible defense. You flip the coin, what's going
[15:09] Speaker 3: to show up?
[15:09] Speaker 6: No, you're totally right. How about this game on Sunday, man?
[15:13] Speaker 4: Good God.
[15:15] Speaker 6: This was not the way the script was supposed to
[15:17] Speaker 6: go for Deshaun Watson. He was supposed to start the
[15:20] Speaker 6: first two games on the road, stink, and they were
[15:23] Speaker 6: going to come home for week three, I believe, against
[15:25] Speaker 6: the Jaguars, and then turn to Shador Sanders, but... Deshaun
[15:29] Speaker 6: Watson's like, ah, I'm not done. I can still play.
[15:32] Speaker 6: The old man can still play. I mean, he's the
[15:34] Speaker 6: comeback player of the year probably right now in the NFL.
[15:38] Speaker 6: And you got two teams that are, I mean, heck,
[15:40] Speaker 6: the Browns are fighting for a division title.
[15:42] Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
[15:43] Speaker 3: Well, the winner's in first place. The winner is number one.
[15:47] Speaker 3: and every team has a winning record, like they do
[15:51] Speaker 3: in the NFC North, in the AFC North, and the
[15:55] Speaker 3: NFC North are probably the two most competitive right now.
[15:57] Speaker 3: Everyone came in thinking that the NFC West was going
[16:00] Speaker 3: to be the division that was going to, and I
[16:03] Speaker 3: still think there's a lot of football clearly for the
[16:05] Speaker 3: Rams ahead of them, and the Niners, if they can
[16:09] Speaker 3: get healthy, if they can ever get healthy, they're great
[16:11] Speaker 3: every opening month of the season, and then they start
[16:14] Speaker 3: the battle of attrition becomes almost too monumental and an
[16:17] Speaker 3: avalanche of injuries and they can't survive. And then you've
[16:20] Speaker 3: got the defending champs. So, but no, the, the AFC
[16:25] Speaker 3: North is, is just terrific. And, and if you look,
[16:29] Speaker 3: I just finished typing their boards today as I get
[16:31] Speaker 3: ready for that game. If you look at their team,
[16:34] Speaker 3: you know, they've been bad. The Browns have for so long.
[16:36] Speaker 3: They've just, they've just been getting some of these former
[16:39] Speaker 3: number one picks that are pretty high picks and they're
[16:41] Speaker 3: starting to perform on both sides of the ball. They've
[16:44] Speaker 3: got this Concepcion kid who's a receiver. And Boston, I mean,
[16:48] Speaker 3: they've got some real talent. So I'm excited to see.
[16:53] Speaker 3: I haven't seen the Browns in a year. I had
[16:55] Speaker 3: them last year in Cleveland. They played New England. And
[16:59] Speaker 3: now I got them again. And in this environment, against
[17:03] Speaker 3: a division foe, against a Hall of Fame quarterback, will
[17:06] Speaker 3: be a great test. Any way you look at it,
[17:09] Speaker 3: the Browns have been a success so far through the
[17:10] Speaker 3: first half of the season. The winner will be in
[17:13] Speaker 3: first place. And I think it's a flip of the
[17:15] Speaker 3: coin who's going to win it. The Steelers are winning
[17:17] Speaker 3: on guile and experience and good plays when they need them.
[17:21] Speaker 3: And their quarterback's pulling a lot of that off. And
[17:24] Speaker 3: they've won a string of games in a row now.
[17:26] Speaker 3: But Cleveland is.
[17:29] Speaker 3: I'm anxious to see if I feel this is for real.
[17:31] Speaker 3: It feels like it might be. It seems to be.
[17:34] Speaker 3: Todd Munkin has gone in there. He's a longtime assistant
[17:37] Speaker 3: coach in football and the pros. And this is his
[17:41] Speaker 3: one big shot. To be a head coach, he's taken
[17:44] Speaker 3: the advantage of it. He's kind of come in with
[17:46] Speaker 3: a gruff, you know, no BS kind of attitude toward
[17:51] Speaker 3: the press and the team. He's all business. He's fiery.
[17:54] Speaker 3: I like it. And, you know, here's, again, I just,
[17:58] Speaker 3: this is why this league is so great. You can
[18:01] Speaker 3: go from one year to being a complete and total
[18:04] Speaker 3: and utter disaster. Absolutely. and be a three or four
[18:08] Speaker 3: win team. And the next year, halfway through being first
[18:11] Speaker 3: place in the division and playing for sole possession at
[18:14] Speaker 3: first place, midway through the year. This league is so great.
[18:17] Speaker 3: That does not happen in the NBA. It kind of
[18:20] Speaker 3: can happen sometimes in major league baseball, not often, but
[18:23] Speaker 3: it happens in the NFL. It's like almost inexplicable how
[18:27] Speaker 3: you can turn the page from one year to the next,
[18:30] Speaker 3: be an utter disaster, and then come in and be
[18:32] Speaker 3: the story of the league the next year. It's It's
[18:34] Speaker 3: what makes this league great, and I think it's what
[18:37] Speaker 3: makes this fan base, whether you're in Cleveland or Seattle
[18:41] Speaker 3: or who knows where, always feel like at the beginning
[18:44] Speaker 3: of the season, there is always hope. You can't say
[18:47] Speaker 3: that in a lot of leagues with a lot of teams.
[18:49] Speaker 3: You can in the NFL.
[18:50] Speaker 4: It's kind of like this segment.
[18:52] Speaker 6: Just starts off off the rails, train wreck, complete disaster,
[18:55] Speaker 6: and then rallies, and actually by the end of it,
[18:58] Speaker 6: ends up being okay.
[19:00] Speaker 3: Hmm, interesting you'd say that. Let that marinate a little bit,
[19:04] Speaker 3: and we'll kind of maybe.
[19:05] Speaker 4: Address it again. Hey, are you on Amazon? You got
[19:08] Speaker 4: hoops this week?
[19:10] Speaker 3: No, my dad is being honored. On the Thursday game
[19:14] Speaker 3: at Lambeau, they're going to put his name on the
[19:18] Speaker 3: inside of the stadium. There is no greater honor. Wow.
[19:22] Speaker 3: There are so few names, but the names that are
[19:24] Speaker 3: up there are the greatest names in the history of
[19:27] Speaker 3: pro football. Bart Starr, Ray Nitschke. Brett Favre, you know,
[19:32] Speaker 3: so his name is going up. He was 21 years
[19:36] Speaker 3: the president and CEO of the Packers, 37 years with
[19:39] Speaker 3: the organization, rebuilt Lambeau Field, the family, you know, me
[19:44] Speaker 3: being his oldest son. So incredibly proud. Mike Holmgren, by
[19:47] Speaker 3: the way, was a part of every part of that.
[19:51] Speaker 3: My dad had to okay that hire. He had to
[19:55] Speaker 3: okay the trade for Favre. He didn't make the trade,
[19:57] Speaker 3: but he had to okay it as the president and
[20:00] Speaker 3: the CEO, acting as the owner of the team. But
[20:04] Speaker 3: he loved Mike, loves Mike, loved Mike, whether he was
[20:08] Speaker 3: with the Packers or or with the Seahawks, a personal friend,
[20:13] Speaker 3: Mike and I have stayed in contact. I know he's
[20:15] Speaker 3: going to be the, you know, going to have an
[20:17] Speaker 3: important role on Monday night. I can't wait to see him.
[20:20] Speaker 3: I love Mike Holmgren. I love his family. But Mike
[20:23] Speaker 3: was there every step of the way of that rebuild
[20:26] Speaker 3: and what he did. And it's as important to that
[20:29] Speaker 3: organization as anybody, but, but, So I took this NBA
[20:33] Speaker 3: Friday off to be with my family on the Thursday night.
[20:35] Speaker 6: I love it.
[20:36] Speaker 4: I love it.
[20:36] Speaker 6: Well, you deserve it. Great honor for your dad. That
[20:38] Speaker 6: is awesome. And Mike will be with us tomorrow. So
[20:42] Speaker 6: I'll be sure and ask Mike about your dad and
[20:44] Speaker 6: his relationship with him. And then you'll see Mike on
[20:47] Speaker 6: Monday night when he raises the 12th man flag before
[20:50] Speaker 6: the game on Monday with the Bears. So, all right, listen,
[20:52] Speaker 6: great stuff. I know you got to run. I'll see
[20:55] Speaker 6: you again this week on Monday. Always fun, man. Love
[20:59] Speaker 6: having you on every week, and we'll do it again
[21:01] Speaker 6: next Wednesday, pal.
[21:03] Speaker 3: It is my privilege to be with you on KJR
[21:06] Speaker 3: every Wednesday night. Thank you, and have a great weekend.
[21:10] Speaker 3: I'll see you Monday morning for breakfast.
[21:12] Speaker 4: You got it, bud.
[21:13] Speaker 6: Kevin Harlan with us on the show, brought to you
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[21:17] Speaker 6: a break, a lot more to get to, including Kraken Toronto,
[21:20] Speaker 6: pregame 630, faceoff at 7, right here on 93.3 KJRFM.

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