# Jon Wilner on Apple Cup, Playoff, USC, Schedule, UCLA, Cal, Picks

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 2 Sep 2026, 17 min.

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Jon Wilner of The San Jose Mercury News and Wilner Hotline joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Apple Cup this week, the potentially changing CFP and how it plays into the Big Ten and SEC control, USC’s attendance issue last week, UCLA firing their Athletic Director, the college football schedule, California, and his predictions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

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[0:50] Speaker 4: off to a 1-0 start, by the way, on the air,
[0:52] Speaker 4: nailing North Carolina and the points. They won outright, outright.
[0:57] Speaker 4: Over TCU and Ireland last Saturday. We'll see what he
[1:01] Speaker 4: can come up with and try to make it 2-0.
[1:03] Speaker 4: But I've got John, I've got you at 26-5 in
[1:07] Speaker 4: your last 31 picks on the year, going back to
[1:10] Speaker 4: the end of the 2024 season. So that means one
[1:14] Speaker 4: of two things are going to happen. Either A, you're
[1:17] Speaker 4: going to continue this ridiculous hot streak, or B, you're
[1:21] Speaker 4: about to totally crash and burn and fall off the
[1:24] Speaker 4: face of the earth and explode on the air this
[1:28] Speaker 4: season the rest of the way.
[1:29] Speaker 3: So what's it going to be, big boy?
[1:31] Speaker 5: Well, I would say explosion is coming. But you never know.
[1:37] Speaker 5: I hope somebody's benefited. I certainly haven't.
[1:39] Speaker 4: Well, you should be benefiting. I told you last year,
[1:42] Speaker 4: you're in the wrong business. I mean, nobody really cares
[1:44] Speaker 4: to read your columns.
[1:45] Speaker 3: You should be.
[1:46] Speaker 5: Handicapping, man.
[1:46] Speaker 4: You should be making money in Vegas, for God's sakes.
[1:51] Speaker 4: There's a lot to go over. Let's just start with
[1:53] Speaker 4: the Apple Cup on Sunday. I don't know if you
[1:55] Speaker 4: heard about the latest. I don't know if it's a controversy, Dick,
[1:58] Speaker 4: but the latest little snafu, I guess, is that Cougar
[2:01] Speaker 4: Marching Band is not coming to the game. What year
[2:05] Speaker 4: did the Husky Band have their accident? Was it 2019, 2018,
[2:07] Speaker 4: whatever year it was? Outside of that year, the Husky
[2:13] Speaker 4: and Cougar bands have been at every single Apple Cup
[2:16] Speaker 4: in my lifetime, and they're not coming this year because
[2:19] Speaker 4: they're pissed off. that UW did not give them good
[2:22] Speaker 4: enough free tickets for the game on Sunday. So they're
[2:25] Speaker 4: taking their tubas and they're going home.
[2:27] Speaker 3: How about that?
[2:27] Speaker 5: A little spice to the rivalry. My understanding is that
[2:35] Speaker 5: Washington State has been offered, the band has been offered
[2:38] Speaker 5: the exact same seats that Oregon's band receives in Husky
[2:42] Speaker 5: Stadium or any other opposing team's band receives. So, It
[2:46] Speaker 5: may be different than it's been in the past, but
[2:49] Speaker 5: I don't sense that Washington State is getting treated any
[2:53] Speaker 5: differently than any other UW opponent.
[2:56] Speaker 2: Right.
[2:56] Speaker 3: They're just whining.
[2:58] Speaker 6: Whining to whine, I guess. John, what's the game going
[3:03] Speaker 6: to look like, in your opinion? You've done some research
[3:05] Speaker 6: on the Cougs. You've done some research on the Dawgs.
[3:08] Speaker 6: What are we going to see on Sunday?
[3:11] Speaker 5: Oh, boy, I don't know that it's going to be
[3:13] Speaker 5: real competitive. I just, you know, I'd love to see
[3:16] Speaker 5: a game like two years ago goes down to the
[3:19] Speaker 5: last couple minutes. You know, I'm always in favor of
[3:22] Speaker 5: exciting games. But, man, I don't know. I was looking.
[3:27] Speaker 5: Washington's offensive line outweighs Washington State's defensive front by 50
[3:31] Speaker 5: pounds a man. I believe it's 322 pounds on average
[3:36] Speaker 5: for the UW line and, like, what, 270-something? for Washington
[3:42] Speaker 5: State's defensive front. I just don't know that the Cougars
[3:46] Speaker 5: are going to be able to hold up. Now, if
[3:48] Speaker 5: Washington gets a little pass happy, that could offset the advantage.
[3:51] Speaker 5: But if I'm the dogs, man, I would just pound
[3:54] Speaker 5: the thing until Washington State stops it and wear them
[3:56] Speaker 5: down and just dominate the ball.
[3:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw where they had the third heaviest offensive
[4:02] Speaker 4: line in college football. That's what Twitter says, so who
[4:05] Speaker 4: knows if that's true or not. The ninth heaviest offensive
[4:07] Speaker 4: line in college football. But I know that since we
[4:10] Speaker 4: last spoke, maybe you've been kind of digging around a
[4:12] Speaker 4: little bit on the series and keeping this thing going.
[4:15] Speaker 3: It's funny, I was talking to.
[4:16] Speaker 4: greg bell this morning on his show that every time
[4:18] Speaker 4: pat chun or jed fish talk about the apple cup
[4:20] Speaker 4: they talk about how they want it to continue but
[4:23] Speaker 4: dot dot dot we want to continue but scheduling may
[4:27] Speaker 4: not be in our control we want it to continue
[4:31] Speaker 4: but we have to do financially what's best for udub
[4:33] Speaker 4: so as it sits right now is it possible that
[4:37] Speaker 4: this is one of the final three apple cups that
[4:40] Speaker 4: we'll see for a while do you believe.
[4:41] Speaker 5: That Yeah, no, I think there's a chance of that. And,
[4:44] Speaker 5: you know, Washington State says the same thing. I talked
[4:47] Speaker 5: to their athletic director, John Harlow, a few weeks ago,
[4:49] Speaker 5: and he kind of said, you know, I talked to Pat.
[4:53] Speaker 5: We understand the importance of the game in the state,
[4:57] Speaker 5: but dot, dot, dot. You know, we've got to stay flexible.
[5:00] Speaker 5: You know, from their standpoint, a lot of the calculation
[5:03] Speaker 5: is the Pac-12 trying to figure out the best strategy,
[5:07] Speaker 5: scheduling strategy to get that group of six bid in
[5:10] Speaker 5: the playoff. Washington has got a lot of things to consider, right?
[5:15] Speaker 5: The budget, seven home games, the limited flexibility. If you
[5:19] Speaker 5: commit to the home-and-home series with Washington State, you really
[5:22] Speaker 5: can't play a home-and-home series with anybody else. If the
[5:27] Speaker 5: playoff expands to 24, are the Big Ten and SEC
[5:30] Speaker 5: going to try to do a crossover series that would
[5:32] Speaker 5: commit Washington to play in Florida one year and Arkansas
[5:36] Speaker 5: the next? And how would that work with the Apple Cup?
[5:39] Speaker 5: It's very complicated now. And I think that there's, I
[5:42] Speaker 5: don't know that it's better than 50-50, but I certainly
[5:45] Speaker 5: think there's a decent chance that once we get through
[5:47] Speaker 5: the game in 28, that might be it for some
[5:52] Speaker 5: period of time.
[5:54] Speaker 6: We heard both Jed Fish yesterday in person at Husky
[5:57] Speaker 6: Stadium and Pat Chun on the Husky show last night
[6:02] Speaker 6: both say that the schedule might not be in our control. Now,
[6:06] Speaker 6: do you think they mean one non-conference game not being
[6:10] Speaker 6: under their control because it's a potential crossover with the SEC?
[6:13] Speaker 6: Or do you think there'll be a time where the
[6:15] Speaker 6: Big Ten controls all the team's non-conference schedules?
[6:20] Speaker 5: I think that we could get to that point. I
[6:23] Speaker 5: have not heard that there is anything imminent on that front,
[6:28] Speaker 5: but certainly if there's a crossover series with the SEC
[6:34] Speaker 5: or if the Big Ten implements a requirement that you
[6:38] Speaker 5: have to play 10 P4 teams, the ACC, SEC, and
[6:42] Speaker 5: Big 12 all have that. The Big Ten does not.
[6:46] Speaker 5: If the Big Ten implements that, then, again, Washington is
[6:50] Speaker 5: going to have to find a way to make that
[6:53] Speaker 5: work with the need to have seven home games for
[6:57] Speaker 5: the budget. So I think that that might be what
[7:00] Speaker 5: they're referring to at this point. But, you know, eventually...
[7:04] Speaker 5: We have no idea what scheduling is going to look
[7:06] Speaker 5: like five, seven years out in terms of how much
[7:10] Speaker 5: control the schools have and how much control the conferences have.
[7:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, well, John Wilner is with us. John, I know
[7:16] Speaker 3: you did.
[7:16] Speaker 4: Maybe you were there at the USC San Jose State
[7:19] Speaker 4: game at the Coliseum over the weekend. The crowd obviously
[7:22] Speaker 4: looked terrible in the Coliseum, and it was hot down there,
[7:24] Speaker 4: and we're getting games that are getting played earlier and
[7:26] Speaker 4: earlier into August every single season, but USC put a
[7:30] Speaker 4: statement out about it.
[7:31] Speaker 3: They got ripped by Paul Feinbaum and others for that.
[7:35] Speaker 4: What was your kind of reaction to the reaction to
[7:37] Speaker 4: the horrible crowd that USC had on Saturday?
[7:40] Speaker 5: I can't believe it was such a story. I really don't.
[7:46] Speaker 5: I've been watching USC games, going to USC games, watching
[7:49] Speaker 5: USC games for a long time. And if you had
[7:53] Speaker 5: told me they're playing San Jose State in August... and
[7:57] Speaker 5: this is the replacement game for Notre Dame. I mean,
[8:00] Speaker 5: USC told its fans, we're not going to play Notre
[8:02] Speaker 5: Dame this year. We're playing San Jose state instead. And
[8:05] Speaker 5: it's a hundred degrees. I would have said there's going
[8:07] Speaker 5: to be 20,000 people in that stadium. You know, that
[8:09] Speaker 5: was a no brainer. So I was not surprised at all.
[8:13] Speaker 5: And I'm just mystified that it has become such a story.
[8:16] Speaker 5: I think USC did add to it by putting the
[8:18] Speaker 5: statement out, you know, Stanford was also empty. Stanford stadium
[8:23] Speaker 5: has been empty for years, but, I just think it's
[8:26] Speaker 5: a little bit much ado about nothing that they're going
[8:28] Speaker 5: to have a 70, 80,000 people in the Coliseum for
[8:32] Speaker 5: big 10 games.
[8:34] Speaker 6: What's your wild idea of starting college football in mid August, John,
[8:38] Speaker 6: even earlier than we do now.
[8:40] Speaker 5: Yeah. Even earlier. I think we college football needs to
[8:43] Speaker 5: start playing on what is week negative one. So basically
[8:48] Speaker 5: two Saturdays ago, it is, there is no competition other
[8:53] Speaker 5: than NFL exhibition games and, And it is wide open
[8:58] Speaker 5: territory for the sport to move its schedule up. That
[9:03] Speaker 5: would allow it to do, one, finish the championship game
[9:07] Speaker 5: in early January, which I think is what everybody wants.
[9:11] Speaker 5: Because if you start on week negative one, you can
[9:14] Speaker 5: play your regular season finales, Thanksgiving weekend, with the buys,
[9:20] Speaker 5: and that solves everything. the calendar problem. The other issue
[9:24] Speaker 5: that nobody's talking about is the NFL is going to
[9:27] Speaker 5: go to that 18th game. Now, I don't know if
[9:29] Speaker 5: it's going to be in two years or at the next.
[9:32] Speaker 5: uh cba with the players the nfl is going to
[9:35] Speaker 5: go to the 18th game and everybody in college football
[9:37] Speaker 5: who's following that thinks that they're going to put that
[9:40] Speaker 5: game on labor day weekend which would mean that what
[9:43] Speaker 5: is currently a wide open weekend for college football is
[9:48] Speaker 5: going to get eaten up by the nfl right so
[9:49] Speaker 5: if you want to stay out from under the nfl
[9:52] Speaker 5: you start a little bit earlier.
[9:54] Speaker 4: Why did ucla wait until like a week before the
[9:57] Speaker 4: season starts to fire their ad.
[10:00] Speaker 5: I have no idea. It is weird timing. There's no
[10:03] Speaker 5: doubt about that. The move itself is not a big surprise.
[10:07] Speaker 5: He has been unpopular. for a long time. The Chip
[10:12] Speaker 5: Kelly situation, the Deshaun Foster hire, both were very poorly
[10:18] Speaker 5: received by the UCLA constituents. Their budget is a mess.
[10:23] Speaker 5: So I don't think anybody was real surprised that they
[10:25] Speaker 5: made the change, but I do think, yes, the week
[10:28] Speaker 5: before Bob Chesney's first game is a little bit weird,
[10:32] Speaker 5: and they're bringing in a guy who's been an executive
[10:34] Speaker 5: with the Lakers. He's going to work pro bono on
[10:37] Speaker 5: an interim basis and I don't know that that's going
[10:41] Speaker 5: to work either. They've got to get somebody in permanently
[10:44] Speaker 5: as soon as they can.
[10:45] Speaker 6: Staying in L.A., you did a story recently on Lincoln Riley.
[10:49] Speaker 6: Why should we believe, John, that he's anything more than
[10:53] Speaker 6: a 9-3 coach that racks up 45 and 50 points
[10:56] Speaker 6: but gives up 40 points to every single game?
[11:00] Speaker 5: I don't think so. I mean, I think the same thing.
[11:04] Speaker 5: I want to see it, that he can be 11-1,
[11:09] Speaker 5: 10-2 with a good defense, and actually he runs the
[11:14] Speaker 5: ball on third and three, or third and one. I
[11:17] Speaker 5: haven't seen that yet since he's been at USC. He
[11:21] Speaker 5: had great playoff teams at Oklahoma, but that was a
[11:25] Speaker 5: little bit different. Big 12 back then, a lot different
[11:27] Speaker 5: than the Big 10 right now. I'm with you, Dick.
[11:30] Speaker 5: I want to see it.
[11:32] Speaker 4: Is there a surprise team in the Big Ten that
[11:33] Speaker 4: we're going to see this year? I'm not saying like
[11:35] Speaker 4: Indiana from two years ago. I'm talking about like a Minnesota,
[11:38] Speaker 4: for example, or a Michigan State that nobody's talking about.
[11:41] Speaker 3: They've got, what, seven ranked teams, I think, guys?
[11:43] Speaker 4: So almost half the conference, about 40% of the conference
[11:47] Speaker 4: is ranked. Is there a surprise team in this Big
[11:50] Speaker 4: Ten that we're not talking about that maybe by the
[11:52] Speaker 4: end of the year we will be talking about, John?
[11:55] Speaker 5: I do, too. UCLA, because I do think Bob Chesney
[11:59] Speaker 5: knows what he's doing. Their schedule is there's a lot
[12:03] Speaker 5: of winnable games. And also Wisconsin, partly for the same reason.
[12:07] Speaker 5: Wisconsin had the hardest schedule in the country last year.
[12:10] Speaker 5: This year, like, there's no Ohio State. There's no Indiana.
[12:13] Speaker 5: They have flipped it. And you guys know, watching the
[12:17] Speaker 5: Washington schedules from year to year, who you miss is
[12:20] Speaker 5: almost as important as who you're playing. And Wisconsin gets
[12:23] Speaker 5: a big break this year. They put more money into NIL.
[12:27] Speaker 5: So I could see Wisconsin ended up like 7-5, 8-4,
[12:30] Speaker 5: kind of surprised.
[12:31] Speaker 3: I'm looking at UCLA's schedule.
[12:33] Speaker 4: At Cal, San Diego State, Purdue, Maryland, then Oregon, but
[12:36] Speaker 4: then Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nevada, Minnesota, Illinois.
[12:39] Speaker 3: That's crazy.
[12:40] Speaker 4: They'll be ranked by the end of October. They might
[12:42] Speaker 4: have eight or nine wins. But how about Cal? Is
[12:45] Speaker 4: our old buddy Tosh LaPoi going to do some magic
[12:47] Speaker 4: in Berkeley, you think? Because I know there's people talking
[12:50] Speaker 4: about Tosh LaPoi. If he ends up killing it at Cal,
[12:53] Speaker 4: then he might be a hot candidate down the road.
[12:57] Speaker 5: Well, he's certainly got a great reputation as a recruiter.
[13:01] Speaker 5: They've done a nice job in the transfer portal. They
[13:03] Speaker 5: had a top 20 class with the portal. And, you know,
[13:07] Speaker 5: the ACC, I don't know that it's open at the
[13:09] Speaker 5: very top, but it's kind of open in that, like,
[13:12] Speaker 5: you know, 3-4-5 window. And Cal's got good enough players.
[13:17] Speaker 5: They certainly have got a good enough quarterback. He's terrific,
[13:21] Speaker 5: you know, to actually move up onto the top tier
[13:25] Speaker 5: and win. you know, that would be a big breakthrough
[13:27] Speaker 5: from them. They have been in the 6-6, 7-5 window
[13:31] Speaker 5: for a long time, but they're putting more money into football.
[13:34] Speaker 5: They got a recruiter. We'll see. I think they got
[13:38] Speaker 5: a shot to actually do something this year.
[13:40] Speaker 6: Well, Tosh can now have $ 3, 000 in a.
[13:43] Speaker 3: Coffee cup if he wants to. That's right. Doesn't matter.
[13:45] Speaker 6: You know, it doesn't matter anymore. John Wildner joining us.
[13:48] Speaker 5: John, what's... You said it, Dick, not me, but I
[13:51] Speaker 5: am silently agreeing. Yeah.
[13:53] Speaker 3: I love it.
[13:53] Speaker 6: Not so silently agreeing.
[13:55] Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.
[13:56] Speaker 6: Colin Coward, I heard him the other day, he said
[13:58] Speaker 6: he was talking to Kevin Warren, the old Big Ten commissioner.
[14:01] Speaker 6: And they both agreed that the four West Coast Big
[14:04] Speaker 6: Ten schools have given the conference creativity, coaching, and skill
[14:10] Speaker 6: position players, and that the conference has benefited as much
[14:14] Speaker 6: from them as they have from being in the conference.
[14:16] Speaker 3: Do you agree with that statement?
[14:18] Speaker 5: I certainly do agree. I mean, Oregon in the conference, absolutely.
[14:24] Speaker 5: I mean, the Ducks have been in the playoff both years.
[14:26] Speaker 5: They won the Big Ten their first year. No doubt
[14:30] Speaker 5: about that. I mean, I'm not sure that UCLA, for instance,
[14:34] Speaker 5: has been super beneficial to the Big Ten to this point.
[14:39] Speaker 5: You know, it's going to take time. I even think
[14:41] Speaker 5: after two years, we don't really know how this thing
[14:43] Speaker 5: is going to play out long-term. But, yeah, I can
[14:47] Speaker 5: see why the Big Ten thinks it's been beneficial. I mean,
[14:50] Speaker 5: it certainly gets their teams exposed to a whole part
[14:53] Speaker 5: of the country that they hadn't gotten before, and there's
[14:56] Speaker 5: a lot of Big Ten alums out on the West Coast. So, yeah,
[14:59] Speaker 5: there's certainly been some benefits, but we'll see. I'm not
[15:03] Speaker 5: convinced that it's also, you know... But it's different for
[15:08] Speaker 5: each school in some ways, right? More beneficial for some
[15:11] Speaker 5: than others.
[15:11] Speaker 3: Well, John, before you go, you're 1-0.
[15:14] Speaker 4: You got North Carolina last week, by the way, with
[15:17] Speaker 4: the upset over TCU.
[15:18] Speaker 3: So the Wendalorian is off to a great start at 1-0.
[15:22] Speaker 4: You got a full slate of Big Ten games this weekend,
[15:25] Speaker 4: by the way, ending on Sunday with the Apple Cup.
[15:28] Speaker 4: And the Wisconsin-Notre Dame game is starting this week. It
[15:31] Speaker 4: was already started, I guess, but Thursday, September 3rd. We've
[15:34] Speaker 4: got a bunch of games, including Rutgers in Minnesota, Illinois.
[15:38] Speaker 3: What do you like this week to make it 2-0, baby?
[15:42] Speaker 5: Well, I actually was going to make a request. Can
[15:44] Speaker 5: I pick two games?
[15:45] Speaker 3: Of course.
[15:45] Speaker 5: Because I feel compelled to pick the Apple Cup, but
[15:49] Speaker 5: that would not be my first choice.
[15:52] Speaker 3: All right.
[15:52] Speaker 5: Okay. You know, otherwise, I definitely think I would take USC.
[15:58] Speaker 5: I don't even know what the number is against Fresno,
[16:01] Speaker 5: but I will take USC and give the points.
[16:03] Speaker 3: I believe it's 22.5 was the number that I saw.
[16:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, 22.5.
[16:05] Speaker 3: All right, so USC giving 22.5.
[16:05] Speaker 5: Gotcha.
[16:05] Speaker 1: Gotcha.
[16:10] Speaker 5: I'll take them. I think it's a big advantage that
[16:12] Speaker 5: they've already played a game, and I think that their
[16:14] Speaker 5: performance against San Jose State was a little underwhelming, so
[16:18] Speaker 5: the number is probably a little smaller than it should be.
[16:21] Speaker 5: All right. And I will take the Huskies. All right.
[16:24] Speaker 4: Huskies are giving, I'll tell you, it's 23 and a
[16:28] Speaker 4: half right now.
[16:29] Speaker 5: See, I would have wanted more. After what happened last year,
[16:32] Speaker 5: the gap between the sport is flattening out at the top,
[16:38] Speaker 5: but it is becoming more and more vertical when you
[16:41] Speaker 5: go through the tiers. And I think that, you know,
[16:45] Speaker 5: it's getting harder for Washington State against Washington. It's getting harder.
[16:49] Speaker 5: Boise State against Oregon is another example. I think it's
[16:52] Speaker 5: going to be tough for the Broncos to come close
[16:54] Speaker 5: to doing what they did in Eugene two years ago.
[16:57] Speaker 4: All right, we'll see what happens, John. Great stuff, and
[17:00] Speaker 4: we've got a full weekend of games and the first
[17:02] Speaker 4: dog game to talk about next Tuesday on the air.
[17:04] Speaker 4: So great stuff, and we'll talk in a.
[17:06] Speaker 5: Week, man. Thanks, John. Thanks a lot, guys.
[17:08] Speaker 3: All right, John Willner with us on the radio show.
[17:10] Speaker 3: We're going to break. A lot more to get to.
[17:12] Speaker 4: Seahawks getting going a week from tomorrow against the Patriots.
[17:16] Speaker 4: We've got the Mariners in Boston. Apple Cup on Sunday.
[17:19] Speaker 4: A lot more to get to on a busy, busy
[17:20] Speaker 4: Tuesday right here on 93.3 KJRFM.

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