# Hugh Millen on Seahawks and Huskies FB: Softy and Dick 9-18 Hour 3

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 19 Sep 2026, 38 min.

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In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen spend the hour talking about the Seahawks game against the Cardinals with Drew Lock starting, how the defense looked in the opening win, how the Dawgs are using Demond Williams early in the season, the NIL situation for Washington, Arch Manning, plus Lane Kiffin and LSU facing Ole Miss. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:57] Speaker 5: by the end of the year again for our beloved
[0:58] Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks. Joining us now to talk all things football,
[1:02] Speaker 5: college and pro, and who knows what else, our friend
[1:04] Speaker 5: Huey Millen.
[1:05] Speaker 4: How are you, man? I'm doing great.
[1:07] Speaker 6: Great to be with you. Yeah, man, lots going on.
[1:09] Speaker 6: Why don't we start with the Hawks? in Arizona.
[1:11] Speaker 5: I think this was a game that when people saw
[1:14] Speaker 5: the schedule, they said, well, that's a win. I mean, heck,
[1:18] Speaker 5: the Hawks have not lost a game in front of
[1:20] Speaker 5: a full house of fans in Arizona against the Cardinals
[1:25] Speaker 5: in 14 years. They lost in 2020 during the COVID year, Hugh.
[1:30] Speaker 5: And there was like 1,500 people. But then Sam Darnold
[1:33] Speaker 5: goes out and gets banged up in week one. Now
[1:35] Speaker 5: he's out for a couple weeks. And, oh, by the way,
[1:38] Speaker 5: the Cardinals beat the Chargers in week number one. So
[1:41] Speaker 5: where's your confidence level now for this game at Arizona Sunday?
[1:46] Speaker 7: I think it's going to be, you know, nip and tuck.
[1:49] Speaker 7: That's my sense. Even last year, remember, Sam Darnold had
[1:54] Speaker 7: to hit a go-route up the sideline doing jigba on
[1:56] Speaker 7: the right side.
[1:57] Speaker 4: Yep.
[1:58] Speaker 7: And then turn around on the same drive on the
[2:00] Speaker 7: left side to hit another go route. I mean, it
[2:04] Speaker 7: was almost balancing on a blade of a knife. So
[2:07] Speaker 7: I think that the Cardinals, you know, they've got a
[2:11] Speaker 7: few advantages. I'm not saying advantages over the Seahawks, but
[2:14] Speaker 7: advantages over their normal selves. They've got a new head coach, obviously.
[2:18] Speaker 7: So there's a little bit of juice in the locker
[2:20] Speaker 7: room about that. They're feeling really good about what happened
[2:23] Speaker 7: with the Chargers. They're sowing their oats for sure. And, um,
[2:27] Speaker 7: and they, you know, they probably feel like, uh, they're
[2:30] Speaker 7: going to take advantage of a backup quarterback. So, so
[2:33] Speaker 7: arguably you could say that the most important player on
[2:37] Speaker 7: the offense for Seattle, Sam Darnold, isn't going to play.
[2:40] Speaker 2: Right.
[2:41] Speaker 7: And, you know, you could certainly make a case for
[2:43] Speaker 7: several on the defense, but you could make a very
[2:46] Speaker 7: credible case for Nick Amon worry being the most, uh,
[2:50] Speaker 7: you know, important person on the defense, given everything that
[2:54] Speaker 7: he can do and, and what he allows Mike McDonald
[2:57] Speaker 7: to call and what have you. So, so yeah, I
[2:59] Speaker 7: think that there's some, some of those things start stacking
[3:02] Speaker 7: up and I think it finally equates to a, a
[3:05] Speaker 7: game that should be more competitive than we were thinking
[3:08] Speaker 7: all summer.
[3:08] Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of the backup bowl.
[3:10] Speaker 5: Like, I know that Jacoby is the starter for the
[3:13] Speaker 5: Cardinals out of training camp, but he's a career backup
[3:16] Speaker 5: for the most part, right? And now you've got Drew Locke.
[3:18] Speaker 5: And I just go back to last Wednesday's game, which
[3:22] Speaker 5: feels like forever ago.
[3:23] Speaker 6: My God, it was a week and a half.
[3:24] Speaker 5: And, I mean, if I'm the Seahawks, I'm like, hey,
[3:26] Speaker 5: we won, but guys, we went 42 minutes without scoring
[3:30] Speaker 5: a point last And oh, by the way, our defense had, what,
[3:33] Speaker 5: two or three drives where the opponent is in very
[3:36] Speaker 5: favorable situations, second and 20, third and 15, and they're
[3:41] Speaker 5: continuing to move the football. So to me, this should
[3:45] Speaker 5: be a totally driven team after the way they played
[3:47] Speaker 5: last Wednesday.
[3:49] Speaker 7: They should be. And yeah, I don't have in front
[3:51] Speaker 7: of me. We talked about in the postgame, there was
[3:53] Speaker 7: five different occasions where it was second or third and
[3:56] Speaker 7: long and the Patriots were able to convert. So they
[4:00] Speaker 7: got to clean that up. I think if there's one
[4:04] Speaker 7: aspect of the defense, they're so well coached and they
[4:08] Speaker 7: got great players at every level. Could they stand to
[4:11] Speaker 7: use a little bit more twitch? Is there a defensive end,
[4:13] Speaker 7: you know, a boy Moffay? Would that complete the ensemble?
[4:18] Speaker 7: Somebody like that? I mean, you saw Leonard Williams played
[4:23] Speaker 7: more reps at defensive end than he played a defensive tackle.
[4:27] Speaker 7: And I believe it was 27 reps at defensive end.
[4:32] Speaker 7: And so I think of the Seahawks being better when
[4:35] Speaker 7: he's playing as a defensive tackle in part because you
[4:39] Speaker 7: can run the stunts. Regardless of how athletic the quarterback is,
[4:44] Speaker 7: you can run the stunt where the end goes in,
[4:48] Speaker 7: the tackle goes out. Well, now the tackle assumes the
[4:51] Speaker 7: contained responsibility. So now you say, Leonard Williams, even though
[4:55] Speaker 7: you're lined up in a three technique, what have you,
[4:57] Speaker 7: once we call this stunt, You've got to make sure
[4:59] Speaker 7: the quarterback doesn't get outside of you. Well, there's a
[5:01] Speaker 7: lot of defensive tackles when you watch them on tape.
[5:04] Speaker 7: They've got no chance of providing contain. Leonard Williams is
[5:07] Speaker 7: big enough and athletic enough that he can be a
[5:11] Speaker 7: contain guy on those stunts. So there's a lot of
[5:14] Speaker 7: things that go into all this. I think Mike McDonald's
[5:18] Speaker 7: going to feel more content when he gets a little
[5:22] Speaker 7: bit healthier.
[5:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:23] Speaker 5: Well, I'm curious to see the kind of workload that
[5:26] Speaker 5: Jadarian Price gets for this game. I'm going back to
[5:30] Speaker 5: the Patriot game, and if I'm wrong, please correct me,
[5:32] Speaker 5: but he only had the 12 touches, 10 carries, and
[5:35] Speaker 5: two targets. I know people have talked about kind of
[5:38] Speaker 5: bringing him along slow, and I guess my question is why?
[5:42] Speaker 5: He was a first-round draft pick. He's by far and away,
[5:46] Speaker 5: seemingly on paper, your best running back. I think we
[5:49] Speaker 5: know how we feel about Helani and Emmanuel Wilson, right?
[5:53] Speaker 5: Why are we not letting this horse run?
[5:54] Speaker 7: Well, I just feel like they have done their research
[5:59] Speaker 7: and they've arrived at the conclusion that if you want
[6:02] Speaker 7: to take a guy that was averaging under 10 touches
[6:06] Speaker 7: per game, I think it was 9.6 or 9.8. It
[6:08] Speaker 7: was definitely under 10, barely, at Notre Dame per game
[6:14] Speaker 7: because he's backing up Jeremiah Love, obviously. And then now
[6:17] Speaker 7: you say, okay, now we're going to double it and
[6:19] Speaker 7: get up into the 19-20 range that that's a recipe
[6:23] Speaker 7: for a guy that's not going to be able to
[6:25] Speaker 7: deliver come December and January. He'll either be hurt or
[6:29] Speaker 7: he'll be worn out and he just won't have the juice.
[6:32] Speaker 7: So that's the argument. I'm not saying I make that argument.
[6:36] Speaker 7: I think reasonable minds could differ. I thought that they
[6:38] Speaker 7: should have used him more against the Patriots because you
[6:43] Speaker 7: got Drew Locke, like whatever the plan was, as soon
[6:47] Speaker 7: as Darnold goes down with the hip on the fourth
[6:49] Speaker 7: offensive play, then that whole game plan just gets wadded
[6:53] Speaker 7: up and thrown in the garbage. I mean, that's a
[6:55] Speaker 7: little bit of an exaggeration, but you've got to do
[6:58] Speaker 7: everything you can to make the best possible working environment
[7:03] Speaker 7: for your backup quarterback to win the game, regardless of
[7:07] Speaker 7: how that looks. Hey, we're going back to your training
[7:10] Speaker 7: camp plays, the ones that you have the most rep with.
[7:12] Speaker 7: And you said it's a battle of backups, but the
[7:15] Speaker 7: one thing, and I know you know this, but just
[7:17] Speaker 7: as a reminder, Jacoby Brissett, all off season, he was throwing,
[7:20] Speaker 7: you know, in those player run practices, he was stepping up,
[7:23] Speaker 7: taking the first rep. He was the one throwing to
[7:25] Speaker 7: Marvin Harrison.
[7:26] Speaker 5: Right.
[7:26] Speaker 2: Right.
[7:27] Speaker 7: You know, uh, Mark Gardner Minshew was throwing to, you know, uh, to, to,
[7:31] Speaker 7: you know, Devin DeVornay and the, the backup guy. So,
[7:34] Speaker 7: so the cohesion that you would expect from Jacoby Brissett
[7:38] Speaker 7: with the starters would be certainly greater than what you
[7:40] Speaker 7: expect with Drew Locke and these starters.
[7:42] Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess my point is that he's
[7:44] Speaker 5: spent more games in the NFL, I think, as a
[7:47] Speaker 5: backup quarterback than he has a starting quarterback. Talking about
[7:50] Speaker 5: Jacoby Percet now. I mean, Drew Locke certainly has. There's
[7:53] Speaker 5: no question about that. Well, actually, he's played 102 games overall,
[7:55] Speaker 5: 66 of them. have been as a starter, but that's
[8:03] Speaker 5: just games he's played in. We're not even talking about
[8:05] Speaker 5: games he never appeared in and was holding a clipboard.
[8:08] Speaker 5: When I think of Jacoby Percet, I think of more
[8:10] Speaker 5: of a career backup than I do a starter, but
[8:13] Speaker 5: he does have 66 starts. He's got a 21-45 record
[8:17] Speaker 5: as a starting quarterback.
[8:19] Speaker 6: I mean, how much should we fear this guy?
[8:22] Speaker 5: I mean, if the Hawks can do to Drake May
[8:24] Speaker 5: what they've done the last eight quarters, you would think
[8:27] Speaker 5: they'd be able to have some success this Sunday in Arizona.
[8:31] Speaker 7: Well, I think he's feeling pretty confident. You know, they
[8:34] Speaker 7: executed their game plan. I mean, here we're talking about
[8:37] Speaker 7: the battle of the backups, the ranking for big time
[8:42] Speaker 7: throw percentage. Drew Locke comes out of the weekend. He
[8:46] Speaker 7: was number three in the NFL. What does a big
[8:49] Speaker 7: time throw mean?
[8:49] Speaker 4: What does that mean?
[8:50] Speaker 7: Well, it's a little bit subjective, but it's, you know,
[8:53] Speaker 7: pushing the ball down the field to a relatively tight window. And,
[8:57] Speaker 7: you know, just kind of what you would say, like, whoa,
[8:59] Speaker 7: that's a big time throw.
[9:00] Speaker 2: Right.
[9:02] Speaker 5: Is there actually a guy sitting there in an office
[9:06] Speaker 5: and they all look to him to see his reaction?
[9:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:09] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[9:09] Speaker 7: And you go to a holiday party and you're sharing
[9:11] Speaker 7: eggnog and you say, what do you do? And you go,
[9:13] Speaker 7: I tally big time throws. Sounds like a cool job.
[9:16] Speaker 6: All right.
[9:17] Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, going back to those defensive lapses,
[9:19] Speaker 5: so I got it in front of me. So the
[9:20] Speaker 5: second and 19 was the same drive as the Pritchett
[9:24] Speaker 5: interception that was tipped up by, what's his nuts, the
[9:28] Speaker 5: guy they brought from the practice squad. Come on, help
[9:30] Speaker 5: me out here. The guy that tipped the ball into
[9:32] Speaker 5: Pritchett's hand. Is it Thomas, Rodney Thomas? No, no, no,
[9:36] Speaker 5: Rodney Thomas, the safety, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Thomas. So that
[9:39] Speaker 5: was the Pritchett interception play, or drive. And then second
[9:42] Speaker 5: and 21, and third and 19, to fourth and nine,
[9:46] Speaker 5: where they converted on that. That was the final pick
[9:48] Speaker 5: of the game by Josh Jobe. So both of those
[9:51] Speaker 5: drives ended well, but you're wondering, like, what's going on?
[9:55] Speaker 5: And how much, honestly, looking back, do you feel those drives...
[10:00] Speaker 5: may have ended earlier if Nicky Manwari and or Ty
[10:04] Speaker 5: Okada were on the field?
[10:09] Speaker 7: I think that they're a much better defense with Nicky Manwari.
[10:13] Speaker 7: You know, he can just cover so much ground. He
[10:15] Speaker 7: can cover all personnel, you know, Big guys, quick guys,
[10:20] Speaker 7: strong guys, what have you. He can play out in
[10:24] Speaker 7: the slot. He can play in the box. Now, the
[10:27] Speaker 7: one thing, 3% of his plays were in the back
[10:31] Speaker 7: end as a safety. There's an S next to his name,
[10:35] Speaker 7: but that's only... They have that term in politics, a rhino.
[10:40] Speaker 7: He's a sign-o. He's a safety in name only. The
[10:45] Speaker 7: guy plays like a nickel... linebacker. Some people call that
[10:50] Speaker 7: the star, the nickel. If you walked up to Nick
[10:53] Speaker 7: Saban at an airport and you said, who's the best
[10:55] Speaker 7: star you've ever had? He would know exactly what you're
[10:58] Speaker 7: talking about. And so he plays that position. It's a
[11:00] Speaker 7: versatile position. And so I'm all in on Nicky Minori.
[11:06] Speaker 7: And it's almost like you don't even know the impact
[11:11] Speaker 7: that he has and how it reverberates to everybody else
[11:14] Speaker 7: because of all the things that he can do. You
[11:16] Speaker 7: can play You can play two high safety structures and
[11:19] Speaker 7: you could say, OK, balls on the left hash. You know,
[11:23] Speaker 7: we'll we'll put we will put Drake Thomas to the boundary.
[11:28] Speaker 7: But let's have Nick Amon worry to the field and
[11:30] Speaker 7: we'll play a coverage where both safeties are back and
[11:34] Speaker 7: he's got to stay. He's got a line on inside
[11:37] Speaker 7: shade of the slot receivers. And he's got to, first
[11:42] Speaker 7: and foremost, deny the slant from the slot receiver. That's
[11:45] Speaker 7: the number one thing that can kill him. But then
[11:48] Speaker 7: he's got to be able to match to the flat
[11:51] Speaker 7: any what's called new number two with the tight end
[11:54] Speaker 7: or the running back or a slot receiver. Anybody who
[11:58] Speaker 7: then goes to the flat, he's got to match that
[12:01] Speaker 7: in space with no help, depending on how the route
[12:04] Speaker 7: progression is going. And then all of a sudden you
[12:06] Speaker 7: freeze the tape and you go, that's a big strain there.
[12:10] Speaker 7: on a 220 pound linebacker, you know, safety, uh, to
[12:14] Speaker 7: be able to have him make those plays in space.
[12:17] Speaker 7: But then you let the video play out and you go, wow,
[12:19] Speaker 7: beautiful angle. Well, he, he hit the turbo bond button.
[12:22] Speaker 7: He got that guy on the ground and you know,
[12:24] Speaker 7: it's second and eight and that's a hell of a play. Like, and,
[12:27] Speaker 7: and so when I say there's an effect, Mike McDonald
[12:31] Speaker 7: could call that defense against that formation again on that
[12:34] Speaker 7: hash because, and then he could have everybody else, uh,
[12:38] Speaker 7: you know, you know, have their attention, uh, you know,
[12:41] Speaker 7: directed towards stopping everybody else. And you're saying, well, who's, who,
[12:44] Speaker 7: who's the big ask? Where's the big ask? Well, the
[12:46] Speaker 7: big ask is on number three, but he can handle it.
[12:49] Speaker 7: And so, um, so I think that his effect, it, it,
[12:54] Speaker 7: it's far more than what shows up in the, in the, uh,
[12:57] Speaker 7: in the box court. I absolutely agree. You know, convinced
[13:01] Speaker 7: in that, and you would be too if I could
[13:03] Speaker 7: just draw it up on a whiteboard and show you
[13:04] Speaker 7: some tape.
[13:05] Speaker 6: Oh, I believe you. I really do.
[13:07] Speaker 5: I didn't at first, but now I do. So what
[13:09] Speaker 5: about Drew Locke, right? Like, how much does the offense
[13:12] Speaker 5: need to change? How much do you need to maybe,
[13:15] Speaker 5: you know, give him access to a portion of the
[13:18] Speaker 5: playbook that maybe fits his skill, fits his talent on Sunday?
[13:24] Speaker 7: Well, let me get to that, but I'm going to
[13:26] Speaker 7: first say, I watched the entire tape of the chargers
[13:28] Speaker 7: offense against the Cardinal defense to see like what the
[13:32] Speaker 7: hell happened. And, uh, they've got a new coordinator and
[13:36] Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel, he comes over from the dolphins.
[13:38] Speaker 2: Right. Right.
[13:40] Speaker 7: And there were some of the goofiest ass ship going on,
[13:44] Speaker 7: on that, uh, on that. You don't have to dump it.
[13:48] Speaker 7: You know, there's, there's, there's, you know, there's some, some
[13:50] Speaker 7: ships are kind of goofy, uh, as they float along. So, um,
[13:54] Speaker 7: watching their formations. There was a number of times where
[13:58] Speaker 7: guys were five yards behind the line of scrimmage, but
[14:00] Speaker 7: they're outside of the core of the formation. And they're
[14:03] Speaker 7: running vertical routes. It takes them a second and a
[14:06] Speaker 7: half just to get to the line of scrimmage. That's dumb.
[14:08] Speaker 7: The way they go in motion and insert between the
[14:10] Speaker 7: guard and the tackle on a stretch. Then three guys
[14:14] Speaker 7: end up blocking one guy, and then the middle linebacker
[14:16] Speaker 7: comes flying through and nobody sees him. These crazy whirlybird formations.
[14:20] Speaker 7: So there's all kinds of stuff. I think Mike McDaniel...
[14:24] Speaker 7: the office coordinator was more concerned with impressing Jim Harbaugh
[14:29] Speaker 7: with his creativity than, than creating a game plan that
[14:32] Speaker 7: actually worked.
[14:33] Speaker 4: Wow.
[14:33] Speaker 6: That's a pretty heavy accusation, pal.
[14:35] Speaker 1: Wow.
[14:36] Speaker 6: How about that?
[14:36] Speaker 7: I'm not in his head.
[14:37] Speaker 6: I'm just saying, that's what it looks like.
[14:39] Speaker 4: Right.
[14:40] Speaker 8: Right.
[14:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[14:41] Speaker 7: And, and now a couple of things, let's, let's look
[14:45] Speaker 7: at it from the Cardinal perspectives. Cause we'll talk about
[14:47] Speaker 7: the chargers when on their game in October 4th, they're
[14:50] Speaker 7: playing the Cardinals this Sunday. So Mack Wilson, uh, the
[14:53] Speaker 7: middle linebacker, hell of a game. I mean, he knocked out, um, uh,
[14:58] Speaker 7: Oh God, uh, who McConkie, you know, on a ball
[15:01] Speaker 7: over the middle, uh, you know, just great play. Uh,
[15:04] Speaker 7: he was shooting gaps. And so, so.
[15:06] Speaker 6: Jersey, number one.
[15:07] Speaker 7: We're not used to seeing middle linebackers with number one,
[15:10] Speaker 7: but he's a guy. Ray Lopez, interior lineman. The guards
[15:15] Speaker 7: for the Chargers. Now, they have Slater on the one
[15:19] Speaker 7: side and then Alt on the other. The tackles for
[15:21] Speaker 7: the Chargers are elite. Their guards are just, whoa, really struggling.
[15:26] Speaker 7: And it was really difficult for the offense to run.
[15:32] Speaker 7: That's how bad the guards were for the Chargers.
[15:35] Speaker 4: So.
[15:36] Speaker 7: in like kind, you'd say, okay, how are we doing, uh,
[15:39] Speaker 7: at guard? You know, you got crazy ball on the
[15:40] Speaker 7: one side.
[15:41] Speaker 6: Um, and, and now Bradford may be out. It might be,
[15:44] Speaker 6: it might be Haynes.
[15:46] Speaker 7: If I'm in, am I, am I going to do
[15:48] Speaker 7: a football Friday with you? And I'm going to actually
[15:51] Speaker 7: express concern that Anthony Bradford might not play. Like, I
[15:54] Speaker 7: don't think that that's a bridge too far for me, but, um,
[15:58] Speaker 7: but the, you know, there, there may be some truth
[16:01] Speaker 7: to that. So let's watch on that. Um, you asked me, Dave,
[16:05] Speaker 7: What does Drew Locke have to do? First and foremost,
[16:08] Speaker 7: probably his involvement cost him eight points in terms of
[16:13] Speaker 7: the mechanics of being a quarterback. He's up the line
[16:16] Speaker 7: second and inches. You're at the three-yard line. He just
[16:18] Speaker 7: had a beautiful 14-yard run on, obviously, I think it
[16:23] Speaker 7: was after a penalty, so it must have been first
[16:26] Speaker 7: and 15. And then he's up there looking at his wristband,
[16:29] Speaker 7: and they get a delay game. The touchdown, which is
[16:32] Speaker 7: a beautiful touchdown, design structure by Brian Flory, he gets
[16:39] Speaker 7: the touchdown, and yet it's a legal motion.
[16:43] Speaker 6: To Cooper Cup, right.
[16:44] Speaker 7: To Cooper Cup, yeah. So he's got a– it was
[16:47] Speaker 7: a can play, and so you had Helani to the
[16:50] Speaker 7: right side, and you say, okay, can, can, can. So
[16:54] Speaker 7: now Helani's got to go to the left. Well, before
[16:56] Speaker 7: he sends Cooper Cup in motion or on his shift,
[16:59] Speaker 7: he's got to make sure Helani's set for a second. That, that,
[17:02] Speaker 7: that's mechanics that he would, he would just go, oh
[17:04] Speaker 7: my God, you know, if I did this in eighth grade,
[17:06] Speaker 7: I would, my coach would be upset and I'd be
[17:09] Speaker 7: more upset at myself. So yet this can happen in
[17:12] Speaker 7: an NFL game. When you're talking about all this stuff,
[17:14] Speaker 7: they weren't canning plays in eighth grade, likely, you know,
[17:17] Speaker 7: you know, so there's a lot on your plate. You're
[17:19] Speaker 7: thinking about stuff. There's, there's high volume and And you're
[17:23] Speaker 7: about to call a play you haven't practiced. Those were
[17:26] Speaker 7: all Sam Darnold's reps. So maybe you haven't practiced that,
[17:30] Speaker 7: at least with this personnel. And then next thing is
[17:33] Speaker 7: you commit a middle schooler's mistake and you don't let
[17:37] Speaker 7: guys get set and you get a touchdown callback in
[17:40] Speaker 7: both of those instances. The Seahawks kicked field goals instead
[17:43] Speaker 7: of scored the touchdowns. And so the Nets, you know,
[17:46] Speaker 7: eight points. So that could be a lot in this game.
[17:49] Speaker 6: Sure, totally. Well, let's come back. Let's talk some dogs.
[17:53] Speaker 5: I want to get your thoughts on all the hubbub
[17:55] Speaker 5: with Steve Sarkeesian and Holly Rowe at the Texas-Ohio State
[17:58] Speaker 5: game a week ago. More on the Cardinals game on Sunday.
[18:02] Speaker 5: And how much can we really take you, thank you,
[18:05] Speaker 5: from this game with Eastern tomorrow? More with Hugh Millen
[18:07] Speaker 5: next on 93.3 KJRFM. Now back to.
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[19:02] Speaker 5: mid-second quarter from Carolina. Before we get back to the Hawks,
[19:07] Speaker 5: I want to go back to the conversation we had, Hugh,
[19:10] Speaker 5: with Jed Fish at 4.30 a.m. I don't know if
[19:13] Speaker 5: you caught that or not, but I asked Jed Fish,
[19:15] Speaker 5: I want to get your response to this. If because
[19:17] Speaker 5: of where the run game is at right now, and
[19:21] Speaker 5: you know where the run game is at for you, Dub,
[19:22] Speaker 5: it's a big nothing burger right now. I want to
[19:25] Speaker 5: ask about whether or not he's considering playing maybe and
[19:29] Speaker 5: calling for more design runs from DeMond Williams. There was
[19:33] Speaker 5: also a story, Hugh, that came out a couple days
[19:35] Speaker 5: ago talking about NIL and how much teams are paying
[19:38] Speaker 5: their rosters in college football.
[19:40] Speaker 6: Uh, I got Jed's response to both those questions. Check
[19:43] Speaker 6: this out.
[19:44] Speaker 4: Are you comfortable calling more design runs for number one?
[19:48] Speaker 8: Um, Not yet, because I don't think any one of
[19:54] Speaker 8: us want to have the conversation about, you know, too
[19:57] Speaker 8: much exposure. I kind of like Ben Johnson's plan on
[20:01] Speaker 8: use Caleb. The way he used Caleb with, what, eight
[20:04] Speaker 8: scrambles for 100 yards?
[20:05] Speaker 2: Right.
[20:06] Speaker 8: And then maybe one or two design runs. I think
[20:08] Speaker 8: that's kind of more of what we're looking for. Patrick
[20:10] Speaker 8: Mahomes comes off of an ACL and scrambles in for
[20:13] Speaker 8: a touchdown, but that wasn't a design run. I think
[20:16] Speaker 8: with DeMond, there'll be some design runs. But for the
[20:19] Speaker 8: most part, we're going to continue to let him use
[20:21] Speaker 8: his feet to his advantage on scrambles.
[20:23] Speaker 4: All right, last one before you go. We've talked about NIL,
[20:25] Speaker 4: you and me, a lot.
[20:26] Speaker 3: The Athletic came out with a story, probably saw it yesterday,
[20:29] Speaker 3: on what college football teams are spending on They've got
[20:32] Speaker 3: UW 13th in the Big Ten and I believe 29th
[20:36] Speaker 3: out of 34 in the Big Ten and the SEC combined.
[20:40] Speaker 4: Do those numbers feel accurate to you?
[20:42] Speaker 8: Yeah, they might be a little high, but yeah, I
[20:44] Speaker 8: think they're accurate. It would probably be a little bit less,
[20:49] Speaker 8: I would guess, in the Big Ten, if that's what
[20:51] Speaker 8: the number is from what I understand. And yeah, I
[20:53] Speaker 8: had us about 30th in the Big Ten and SEC
[20:56] Speaker 8: combined out of the 34. So, you know, that's part
[20:59] Speaker 8: of this process. And that's real. We can't shy away
[21:02] Speaker 8: from it.
[21:03] Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, Jed, good stuff. We'll talk Saturday.
[21:05] Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
[21:05] Speaker 8: Appreciate it.
[21:06] Speaker 6: Hugh, you want to weigh in on that?
[21:07] Speaker 5: The first question about DeMond Williams, he says, no, we're
[21:10] Speaker 5: not going down that road yet because we don't want
[21:13] Speaker 5: to get the guy killed, number one. And then number two,
[21:16] Speaker 5: the article that came out yesterday or two days ago
[21:19] Speaker 5: talking about how much teams are paying their players.
[21:22] Speaker 3: Sure.
[21:22] Speaker 7: In that order, well, I do think it's interesting when
[21:25] Speaker 7: you asked him about the fourth down play at the
[21:29] Speaker 7: end of the second quarter against Washington State, and you
[21:33] Speaker 7: expressed your angst about being in shotgun on that. And
[21:38] Speaker 7: he said, well, we're going to stay in shotgun because
[21:41] Speaker 7: our quarterback is a threat to run, which is sound.
[21:46] Speaker 7: There's a hell of a lot of teams in college
[21:47] Speaker 7: football that feel the same way. But then it would
[21:51] Speaker 7: seemingly be somewhat at odds with the idea, okay, we
[21:54] Speaker 7: need to protect them. Now, I would say it's not–
[21:58] Speaker 7: all quarterback runs are not the same.
[22:01] Speaker 6: Correct.
[22:02] Speaker 7: If you run what's called Q power, you want to
[22:05] Speaker 7: pull the guard and you fit up in the B
[22:07] Speaker 7: gap and your quarterback is running straight downhill and he's
[22:10] Speaker 7: got linebackers from the inside, linebackers from the outside, safety.
[22:14] Speaker 7: That's a lot more of a pounding. But if you
[22:17] Speaker 7: put him in the shotgun– and let's say you put
[22:20] Speaker 7: trips to the right and the alley to the left
[22:23] Speaker 7: is kind of wide open, and then you say, okay,
[22:26] Speaker 7: read zone. You watch the defensive end from your left, Amon.
[22:30] Speaker 7: If he really closes that door like a door hinge,
[22:33] Speaker 7: that outside hip closes down, then you pull the ball,
[22:38] Speaker 7: keep it in the alley, you know, depending– make sure that,
[22:41] Speaker 7: you know, the safety's not coming down in some type
[22:43] Speaker 7: of rotation. But if you have an alley, just go–
[22:49] Speaker 7: take that alley, and now you're away from the major combat.
[22:53] Speaker 7: And then when the secondary comes to tackle you, if
[22:56] Speaker 7: you feel like you can't make a move and a
[22:58] Speaker 7: couple guys are converging on you, then just slide.
[23:00] Speaker 2: Right.
[23:01] Speaker 7: So I do think there's a way. Russell Wilson is
[23:04] Speaker 7: the best I've ever seen at protecting his body on
[23:06] Speaker 7: stuff like that. In the prime of his career, he
[23:09] Speaker 7: had no ego. And he was stockier than DeMond, but
[23:13] Speaker 7: not as quick and twitchy as DeMond. pretty damn twitchy,
[23:17] Speaker 7: but not demand twitchy. So I would be okay just saying, Hey, listen, uh,
[23:23] Speaker 7: the most important of the, you know, I'm, uh, you've
[23:26] Speaker 7: heard this saying, you know, the most important ability is availability.
[23:28] Speaker 7: We need you available.
[23:30] Speaker 2: Right.
[23:30] Speaker 7: But by the same token, Hey, if you, if that
[23:32] Speaker 7: light is bright green, take it.
[23:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[23:35] Speaker 7: Just protect your body.
[23:36] Speaker 6: And guess what?
[23:37] Speaker 7: Your body sliding is more important than getting a first down.
[23:40] Speaker 5: And then just real quick, I mean, just talking about
[23:43] Speaker 5: that shotgun play on fourth down that we talked about,
[23:46] Speaker 5: one question would be about the volume of plays, and
[23:50] Speaker 5: the other one would be just about the formation of
[23:53] Speaker 5: a particular situation.
[23:55] Speaker 8: Right.
[23:55] Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I'm not talking about running DeMond Williams 25,
[23:59] Speaker 5: 30 times a game, but I also don't like the
[24:02] Speaker 5: idea of him being in the option on fourth and
[24:05] Speaker 5: one from the goal line. And Jed does. Jed doesn't
[24:10] Speaker 5: want to run a more per se, but he does
[24:12] Speaker 5: like that particular formation in that particular situation.
[24:15] Speaker 2: Right.
[24:16] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
[24:16] Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you know, for me, I've given a
[24:19] Speaker 7: lot of thought through the years and the decades. I mean,
[24:22] Speaker 7: I love the option to the weak side of the
[24:25] Speaker 7: formation because you're depending on the front. Let's say it's
[24:31] Speaker 7: an over front. The tackle comes down on the one
[24:33] Speaker 7: tech and then and he gets the will and if
[24:36] Speaker 7: he can get to the will. And let's say your
[24:38] Speaker 7: corner is in a press and your ex-receiver can just
[24:41] Speaker 7: run him off on a fade because the corner is
[24:44] Speaker 7: reading the fade and the strength of the defense is
[24:47] Speaker 7: going over to the trip side. And then you just
[24:51] Speaker 7: leave the end unblocked because, as I said, the tackle
[24:53] Speaker 7: to that side, he blocks down and then up on
[24:56] Speaker 7: the will.
[24:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[24:57] Speaker 7: All you have to do is option off the end.
[24:59] Speaker 7: And everybody says, well, you're doing it in the weak side.
[25:02] Speaker 7: This is the big asterisk. It's into the weak side
[25:05] Speaker 7: but away from the tight end.
[25:06] Speaker 4: Right.
[25:08] Speaker 7: That's the bigger point for me. I'll die on a
[25:10] Speaker 7: beach on that.
[25:10] Speaker 6: For example, the play in the Apple Cup, you would
[25:13] Speaker 6: have liked it if it was away from the tight end.
[25:15] Speaker 7: Everybody in the Apple Cup with Will Rogers said, into
[25:19] Speaker 7: the weak side. I didn't have a problem with going
[25:21] Speaker 7: to the weak side. I had a problem going to
[25:23] Speaker 7: the weak side where the tight end was also there
[25:26] Speaker 7: because it flattens the angle. You know, there's only 20
[25:28] Speaker 7: yards from the hash mark to the sideline, exactly 20 yards.
[25:32] Speaker 7: And so when you put that tight end, you're bringing
[25:34] Speaker 7: more bodies and you change it to a flatter angle
[25:37] Speaker 7: for the quarterback. He's got to attack the inside armpit
[25:41] Speaker 7: of the end man on the line of scrimmage, but
[25:43] Speaker 7: it's wider because that tight end is widened out. Sure.
[25:46] Speaker 7: Angles break down, the space breaks down, but, but yeah,
[25:49] Speaker 7: if a weak side, a quick option is, I love it.
[25:54] Speaker 6: Got it.
[25:54] Speaker 7: Again, based on, on, you know, the right front and
[25:58] Speaker 7: the right coverage, but that's why you set the formation
[26:00] Speaker 7: to the field and you run, run the, the, uh, the,
[26:03] Speaker 7: the speed option into the boundary. Um, yeah, those are,
[26:07] Speaker 7: that's good stuff.
[26:08] Speaker 5: Uh, Hey, before we get to some other random topics,
[26:11] Speaker 5: I want to talk about the LSU Ole Miss game tomorrow.
[26:14] Speaker 5: I'm sure you saw Lane Kiffin with this, uh, you know,
[26:17] Speaker 5: Tom foolery about Sam Leavitt and the, injury update and
[26:20] Speaker 5: then get your thoughts on what happened with Sark last
[26:22] Speaker 5: weekend in Austin.
[26:23] Speaker 6: But the question I asked Jed there about the NIL,
[26:26] Speaker 6: you know, I had him 29th. He's got him 30th.
[26:29] Speaker 5: We can haggle about the ranking, but either way, the
[26:32] Speaker 5: point is that UW is not where they need to be.
[26:34] Speaker 5: I mean, we're hanging out with teams like Northwestern, Rutgers,
[26:38] Speaker 5: Minnesota at the bottom of the conference. And if we
[26:41] Speaker 5: are going to talk about this two-conference Super League, they're
[26:45] Speaker 5: near the bottom of the SEC and the Big Ten combined.
[26:48] Speaker 5: So not surprising for me, Hugh, you and I have
[26:51] Speaker 5: talked about this, that we don't know exactly how fans
[26:54] Speaker 5: in this region would react to something like that when
[26:57] Speaker 5: they're asked to do more and play a bigger part financially.
[27:02] Speaker 5: There's a lot of money in this town, but a
[27:04] Speaker 5: lot of money in this town doesn't mean a lot
[27:05] Speaker 5: of money from sports fans that want.
[27:08] Speaker 6: To give it to UW. Those are two totally different things.
[27:11] Speaker 5: So how concerned were you when you saw that report
[27:14] Speaker 5: that came out two days ago?
[27:16] Speaker 7: Well, it's got to be better, right? But it's something
[27:19] Speaker 7: that I've said all along to you and others that–
[27:25] Speaker 7: it the whole structure of the Super League has never
[27:29] Speaker 7: made sense there's a there's a fundamental problem with the
[27:32] Speaker 7: scaffolding of that because you're taking all the teams the
[27:36] Speaker 7: idea of being you're taking all the teams that have
[27:39] Speaker 7: been successful because they are the ones that have the
[27:42] Speaker 7: market juice right and and and yet traditionally how did
[27:46] Speaker 7: they get to that position because they won all those
[27:49] Speaker 7: games you know USC had to win a lot of
[27:52] Speaker 7: games against Oregon State to you know and and and
[27:55] Speaker 7: cows and what have you. And Ohio state had to
[27:57] Speaker 7: beat Purdue a lot. And, you know, and Alabama had
[28:00] Speaker 7: to beat Vanderbilt a lot. So if all the teams
[28:02] Speaker 7: that are accustomed to winning, if they all join a conference, Well,
[28:07] Speaker 7: we know that half of them are going to be
[28:08] Speaker 7: losers after a decade or two decades, right? And then
[28:12] Speaker 7: now all of a sudden the fan base, they got
[28:13] Speaker 7: used to winning and giving at a level of expectation that, hey,
[28:18] Speaker 7: if I give, I'm going to see these results. Well,
[28:21] Speaker 7: half of them are not going to see those results.
[28:23] Speaker 7: And so that's related to the question that you're talking
[28:27] Speaker 7: about now. You also can say Jetfish, it's a narrow
[28:33] Speaker 7: line he's got to walk because– you know, in the
[28:36] Speaker 7: middle of a season, are people going to perceive that you're,
[28:39] Speaker 7: you're making excuses and the people I'm most concerned about
[28:43] Speaker 7: are the players, right. Uh, you know, that, Oh, coach
[28:45] Speaker 7: has already, you know, so, cause he would want to,
[28:49] Speaker 7: his message to his players is, Hey, we got the,
[28:53] Speaker 7: we got the horses right in this locker room to
[28:55] Speaker 7: go to the playoff. Like you're, you're trying to infuse, uh, uh, uh,
[29:00] Speaker 7: confidence in the team. And then, If you're saying then,
[29:04] Speaker 7: and I understand why he would say it. Would you
[29:05] Speaker 7: rather not have him admit that, that they're 30th? I
[29:08] Speaker 7: think there's an argument to be made there. Now, the
[29:11] Speaker 7: argument from his perspective is, hey, we got to nudge
[29:15] Speaker 7: some people and have them face reality. But there's an argument.
[29:20] Speaker 7: That's why I said it's a fine line he has
[29:22] Speaker 7: to walk. I understand the objective that he would have
[29:25] Speaker 7: to let everybody know that he's got one hand tied
[29:29] Speaker 7: behind his back. Everybody needs to know that. Um, but
[29:33] Speaker 7: then there's the other part of it is that, that
[29:38] Speaker 7: the players that that is probably inconsistent with the message
[29:44] Speaker 7: he's trying to sell his players. He's trying to tell
[29:47] Speaker 7: his players that he loves his players and that they
[29:50] Speaker 7: have all the juice they ever could need right there
[29:53] Speaker 7: in that locker room to make a run.
[29:54] Speaker 5: Well, the other side of that coin, I guess, is that, hey,
[29:57] Speaker 5: if you guys go out and kick ass and play well,
[29:59] Speaker 5: you might be in for a big raise over the
[30:00] Speaker 5: offseason because there's more money to be spent, apparently.
[30:03] Speaker 7: Jed's a smart guy, so I think if he can
[30:05] Speaker 7: work that angle, he'll do it.
[30:07] Speaker 5: Let's do this. I got to get a take from
[30:09] Speaker 5: you on this LSU Ole Miss game tomorrow. I got
[30:11] Speaker 5: to get a take from you on this Sark situation
[30:13] Speaker 5: with Holly Rowe. And, hey, by the way, it's a miracle.
[30:16] Speaker 5: Sam Levitt has drank the holy water. He has gone
[30:20] Speaker 5: from doubtful to questionable to now off.
[30:23] Speaker 6: The injury report.
[30:24] Speaker 5: He is starting tomorrow's game for LSU. This is what happens, Hugh,
[30:28] Speaker 5: when you have faith, okay? We're going to break, come back,
[30:30] Speaker 5: and talk about all of it next on 93.3 KJRFM.
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[30:50] Speaker 5: All right, well, we got a big one, Hugh, coming
[30:52] Speaker 5: up this weekend. Cardinal Seahawks Sunday, 125. It's the Emerald
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[31:00] Speaker 5: 430 LSU Ole Miss, Eastern UW 415.
[31:03] Speaker 6: But I got to get your thoughts, dude, on the.
[31:07] Speaker 5: LSU, excuse me, Texas-Ohio State game last weekend, but nothing
[31:11] Speaker 5: to do with the game. You saw the drama coming
[31:13] Speaker 5: out of the Sark interview, or lack thereof, with Holly
[31:16] Speaker 5: Rowe right at halftime. The ESPN taking their sweet-ass time,
[31:20] Speaker 5: and Sark had to go. He had the second-half prep
[31:23] Speaker 5: to get to, and I totally get that, man. These
[31:24] Speaker 5: guys can't wait around forever. ESPN really kind of owned
[31:28] Speaker 5: that and admitted that they were wrong about that, but
[31:30] Speaker 5: then post-game... you know, they go to him and I
[31:34] Speaker 5: don't know, he kind of flipped out and showed.
[31:36] Speaker 6: The horns and ran off to the locker room.
[31:38] Speaker 5: And then the AI video that came out of, you know,
[31:41] Speaker 5: Sark smacking Holly row across the face that Arch Manning
[31:44] Speaker 5: kind of had some fun with and people got mad
[31:46] Speaker 5: at him. He had to apologize for it. What'd you
[31:49] Speaker 5: make of that whole, the whole scene down there last week?
[31:52] Speaker 7: Well, I think Sark should have stayed and done the interview.
[31:56] Speaker 7: He's not the first coach to be, you know, wish
[31:59] Speaker 7: he could be celebrating and, and have to experience technical difficulties,
[32:03] Speaker 7: I'm sure. Now, as it pertains to Arch Manning, people
[32:08] Speaker 7: getting upset with him, I would just say, okay, so
[32:13] Speaker 7: what are we going to do? Let's work backwards. We're
[32:15] Speaker 7: going to draw the conclusion that Arch Manning condones violence
[32:21] Speaker 7: against women because he laughed at that AI. I'm sorry,
[32:27] Speaker 7: I don't make that connection. It's obviously fake. To me,
[32:33] Speaker 7: it would be, and we're kind of in this, we
[32:35] Speaker 7: have this brief window that for a couple of years now,
[32:39] Speaker 7: and we're in the window where AI is really just
[32:42] Speaker 7: a new thing. And people can do just about anything.
[32:47] Speaker 7: I mean, to me, this is not a hell of
[32:49] Speaker 7: a lot different than AI. You know, Wile E. Coyote
[32:52] Speaker 7: and Roadrunner came in in 1949 and TV was coming
[32:56] Speaker 7: in in the 50s. And so, you know, like if
[32:59] Speaker 7: you laugh at that, are you saying that you condone violence,
[33:03] Speaker 7: you know, pushing people off cliffs and anvils and all that? No, no,
[33:07] Speaker 7: it's obviously not real. And I would just say I
[33:10] Speaker 7: put it in another category. I've laughed at a racist joke.
[33:15] Speaker 7: And the person, the people that have told those jokes
[33:18] Speaker 7: are Richard Pryor. Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Wanda Sykes,
[33:24] Speaker 7: et cetera. Like given a certain, you know, flair about it,
[33:30] Speaker 7: you know, they're the ones, they're telling jokes about black
[33:33] Speaker 7: people and black stereotypes. And they're trying to make us
[33:36] Speaker 7: white people laugh along with the black people. And so
[33:40] Speaker 7: I just think that there's a, some people are waking
[33:46] Speaker 7: up and they're dying to be offended. And I think
[33:49] Speaker 7: that the people that were on Arch Manning about this
[33:52] Speaker 7: are in that category. Now, if Arch Manning truly did
[33:57] Speaker 7: condone violence against women, that would be a big problem.
[34:01] Speaker 7: It'd be a big problem for Arch Manning, big problem
[34:03] Speaker 7: for Texas. I don't even think that should be stated.
[34:07] Speaker 7: But but to draw the conclusion that he does.
[34:10] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[34:11] Speaker 7: I think is kind of absurd based on all this.
[34:14] Speaker 7: And the problem is it takes our eye. There are
[34:17] Speaker 7: things that we all should unite to condemn and that
[34:21] Speaker 7: are truly offensive, and they're offensive for all the wrong
[34:24] Speaker 7: reasons because there's hate behind it. But when we water
[34:28] Speaker 7: down what offends us, then all of a sudden we
[34:31] Speaker 7: lose our capacity to unite against things that truly do
[34:35] Speaker 7: deserve our collective condemnation. And so I think this is
[34:39] Speaker 7: a silly scenario. Now, if I'm wrong, if somehow you're
[34:43] Speaker 7: going to give me other evidence that Arch Manning is
[34:46] Speaker 7: chauvinist or sexist or condones violence against women, I'll change
[34:50] Speaker 7: my tune.
[34:51] Speaker 4: Right.
[34:51] Speaker 7: But I'm not going to buy into the idea that
[34:53] Speaker 7: he condones violence against women because of an AI thing
[34:56] Speaker 7: that was obviously fake.
[34:58] Speaker 5: Well, tomorrow, LSU Ole Miss, and I got to tell you, man,
[35:01] Speaker 5: you know how they have like these heat maps where
[35:03] Speaker 5: they show you who's rooting for who across the country, whatever.
[35:06] Speaker 5: If there was a heat map across the country for
[35:09] Speaker 5: the LSU Ole Miss tomorrow, as far as who's rooting
[35:13] Speaker 5: for and against Lane Kiffin, the entire map would be
[35:17] Speaker 5: red except for one little white dot, and that's Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
[35:21] Speaker 5: rooting for Lane Kiffin tomorrow in this game with Ole Miss.
[35:25] Speaker 6: I've got to be honest with you.
[35:26] Speaker 5: We've got a game tomorrow with Eastern, so I'll be working,
[35:29] Speaker 5: but I can't wait to see the scene down there tomorrow.
[35:31] Speaker 7: Well, just think about the safety. there's, I can't wait.
[35:35] Speaker 7: Like what players are going to stand next to Lane Kiffin, man,
[35:39] Speaker 7: those LSU players like, Hey, Hey coach, you're on your own.
[35:43] Speaker 7: He's going to turn around coach. He's going to like, Whoa, Whoa.
[35:46] Speaker 7: Everybody's down at the 20 yard line hiding out, man.
[35:48] Speaker 7: Like the security, you know, I mean, look, if, if, if,
[35:54] Speaker 7: if we could have violence against political commentators, Charlie Kirk, right.
[36:02] Speaker 7: You know, the, I say that, but if you're in
[36:06] Speaker 7: charge of security, you have to, you have to work
[36:09] Speaker 7: with that level of, of concern.
[36:11] Speaker 4: Right.
[36:12] Speaker 2: Right.
[36:12] Speaker 7: And so, um, and now here's the other part about it, uh,
[36:15] Speaker 7: that we are all denouncing the NIL and paying players
[36:19] Speaker 7: and all this, and all this is this, this, this
[36:21] Speaker 7: crooked stuff and college football is going to hell in
[36:24] Speaker 7: the hand basketball.
[36:24] Speaker 6: Guess what?
[36:26] Speaker 7: Television. It's as popular as ever. There's 30 million people
[36:29] Speaker 7: watching Miami versus Indiana. And, and, Part of it is
[36:35] Speaker 7: every movie you've ever watched, now it doesn't necessarily have
[36:38] Speaker 7: a villain, but there's a conflict in every movie, right?
[36:42] Speaker 7: And Lane Kiffin is more than happy to be the
[36:48] Speaker 7: conflict in college football, to be the guy that everybody hates,
[36:53] Speaker 7: to be the guy that everybody has to overcome. It's
[36:55] Speaker 7: remarkable how comfortable he is in that position because he
[36:59] Speaker 7: just does things. over and over again that he knows
[37:02] Speaker 7: people are going to– like it's going to anger people
[37:04] Speaker 7: and piss people. And he just seems to relish it. Yeah,
[37:08] Speaker 7: but guess what the result is? Everybody's talking about him.
[37:11] Speaker 7: Everybody's talking about him. That's my point.
[37:14] Speaker 5: By the way, Hugh, just real quick because we've got
[37:16] Speaker 5: to run. Tickets for the Ole Miss game at Texas
[37:19] Speaker 5: on October 24th are $ 311 to get in the door.
[37:24] Speaker 5: Tickets for the LSU Ole Miss game tomorrow are $ 650.
[37:29] Speaker 4: To get in the door. There you go.
[37:30] Speaker 6: That's how crazy this game is. You've got to have
[37:32] Speaker 6: a conflict.
[37:33] Speaker 7: He's the conflict.
[37:33] Speaker 6: Listen, we've got to run. Great stuff, and we'll talk Monday,
[37:36] Speaker 6: all right?
[37:36] Speaker 8: All right.
[37:36] Speaker 6: Hugh Millen with us.

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