# Petros Papadakis on USC Trojans, Pete Arbogast, Mark Bowman, USC Defense

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 1 Oct 2026, 20 min.

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Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk to Petros Papadakis and get the latest report from the USC football camp, break down Pete Arbogast's take on the targeting against Oregon, talk about how swol Mark Bowman is and take a look at who is in more trouble: UW's offense or USC's defense. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
[0:04] Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
[0:06] Speaker 2: All righty, boys and girls, here we go. Headlines on
[0:08] Speaker 2: Saucy Dick with Jackson. No Jackson, Travis, the Ogremogar in
[0:11] Speaker 2: for Jackson Feltz and the, let's face it, for the
[0:14] Speaker 2: foreseeable future. What does that mean to you? Like a
[0:17] Speaker 2: couple weeks or so, a month? When you say that,
[0:19] Speaker 2: it seems like Jackson got canned or something. That seems
[0:23] Speaker 2: like indefinitely. Yeah. Anybody have Jackson's number? Do we tell
[0:27] Speaker 2: him now or wait until he gets back from Oahu?
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[0:35] Speaker 2: your head out of your butt now. That guy will
[0:36] Speaker 2: join us in a matter of minutes, Petros Papadakis. He
[0:39] Speaker 2: will join us in the foreseeable future. Baseball scoreboard. Here
[0:42] Speaker 2: we go. Wild card. NL. Phillies tie it up 4-3
[0:46] Speaker 2: with a win in 10 over the Braves. The White
[0:48] Speaker 2: Sox looking for a 2-0 lead on the Astros. They
[0:51] Speaker 2: lead 4-3 in Houston after five. Red Sox-Yankees with the
[0:54] Speaker 2: Yanks up a game. Cubs-Padres with the Padres up a
[0:57] Speaker 2: game coming up tonight.
[0:58] Speaker 3: Well, what has Jackson been telling us about why we shouldn't.
[1:02] Speaker 2: Take the Texans? Because there's no Nico Collins. Ah, Nico
[1:06] Speaker 2: Collins back at practice.
[1:07] Speaker 1: Ah!
[1:08] Speaker 2: And you took the Texans this week, right? Took them
[1:10] Speaker 2: on Monday. Yes, back at practice plate. Took them on Monday.
[1:13] Speaker 3: Hookah also practiced on a limited basis today for the
[1:15] Speaker 3: first time since September the 18th.
[1:17] Speaker 2: Look at a damn injury update, Jackson. How dumb can
[1:20] Speaker 2: I be? Look at an injury report, Jackson. NFL News,
[1:23] Speaker 2: Falcons defensive tackle, is it Girvin or Gervon Dexter? Got
[1:27] Speaker 2: no idea. Four years. Name another Girvin besides Girvin Dexter. George?
[1:32] Speaker 2: That doesn't really count. This guy's name is spelled G-E-R-V-O-N.
[1:36] Speaker 2: And I may be pronouncing it wrong. It might be Gervon.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Four years, $ 78 million, $ 46 million guaranteed for a guy
[1:42] Speaker 2: that we've never heard of. And Packers wide receiver Jaden
[1:45] Speaker 2: Reed is out for the year with neck surgery.
[1:47] Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Clark, first player ever with a 25.15 assist playoff game.
[1:52] Speaker 3: She led Indiana last night to a 99-89 win over Vegas,
[1:55] Speaker 3: setting up a winner-take-all game tomorrow.
[1:57] Speaker 2: And Asia Wilson is nuts, by the way. We'll talk
[1:59] Speaker 2: about that on Fun With Audio. NFL news as well.
[2:02] Speaker 2: The Hawks and, excuse me, Eagles-Rams this weekend. Sean McVeigh
[2:05] Speaker 2: says Pukunukuwa should play for the Rams this weekend. Let's
[2:08] Speaker 2: talk some USC U-Dubs, shall we, with the guy that's
[2:11] Speaker 2: doing the call for national radio on Saturday. He's a
[2:14] Speaker 2: big deal. Petros Papadakis right now.
[2:17] Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
[2:20] Speaker 1: Petros Papadakis.
[2:21] Speaker 3: Not that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.
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[2:42] Speaker 1: And now with Petros, here's Dave Softy Muller.
[2:49] Speaker 2: Losers. All righty, boys and girls, here we go on
[2:54] Speaker 2: a busy Wednesday afternoon right here on 93.3 KJR FM.
[2:58] Speaker 2: It is our honor. It is our privilege. It is
[3:00] Speaker 2: our pleasure. To welcome in one of the preeminent sports
[3:05] Speaker 2: talk radio hosts this country has to offer. That's right.
[3:08] Speaker 2: One half of the legendary, almost mythical, fabled Petros and
[3:13] Speaker 2: Money Show in Southern California. USC football superstar, media maven,
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[3:52] Speaker 2: uh looking forward to seeing you coming down friday kickoff
[3:57] Speaker 2: 4 30 gonna be a jillion degrees at the coliseum
[3:59] Speaker 2: on saturday night i'm glad i don't have to be
[4:02] Speaker 2: on tv i can sweat all i want not worry
[4:04] Speaker 2: about twitter i'm with you i'll be down there wearing
[4:07] Speaker 2: my well speedo maybe i don't know maybe i'll just
[4:10] Speaker 2: uh you know what we're not gonna wear a speedo
[4:13] Speaker 2: and you don't know what it's like to wear a
[4:14] Speaker 2: speedo and you don't know what it's like to have
[4:16] Speaker 2: a father Who surfed every morning in a Speedo. And
[4:19] Speaker 2: like all the guys in high school that surfed every morning.
[4:21] Speaker 2: I saw your dad this morning surfing. Get out of
[4:25] Speaker 2: the way. I believe we call that a banana hammock.
[4:28] Speaker 2: What's going on down there, man? You guys still using
[4:34] Speaker 2: that cool term, banana hammock, up there? Banana hammock. You
[4:37] Speaker 2: guys still wearing Big Johnson t-shirts over there, too? You
[4:40] Speaker 2: freaking dorks. You know, it just fits, man. All right.
[4:43] Speaker 2: I don't know what you want from me. It just fits.
[4:45] Speaker 2: What the hell's going on down there? Another week, another
[4:48] Speaker 2: week of just chaos. What do you mean? What are
[4:52] Speaker 2: you talking about? Everybody hates Lincoln. The play-by-play's got guys
[4:57] Speaker 2: getting crushed. Sean Cody's looking in the camera like old
[5:01] Speaker 2: Pete's lost it. It's unbelievable, man. Come on. Yeah. Describe it.
[5:08] Speaker 2: Describe the atmosphere for us down there. Well, I mean,
[5:11] Speaker 2: I got to say, I mean, when all that stuff
[5:13] Speaker 2: was happening, I was in Reno in the biggest little
[5:16] Speaker 2: city in the world. I called a great football game,
[5:19] Speaker 2: double overtime. Air Force Nevada was actually a really inspirational game.
[5:24] Speaker 2: But before that, I was trying to sleep because you've
[5:27] Speaker 2: got to call a game late into the night and
[5:28] Speaker 2: then take an early flight so you can get home
[5:30] Speaker 2: and be tortured by your family. You've got to make
[5:32] Speaker 2: sure you get some rest during the day. And my
[5:35] Speaker 2: phone exploded when that hit happened. And everybody wanted me
[5:39] Speaker 2: to say, hey, what do you think, and this and that.
[5:41] Speaker 2: And it took me a second to kind of get
[5:43] Speaker 2: my bearings and see– What the deal was. And obviously,
[5:46] Speaker 2: I mean, everything's been said already, but Lincoln Riley in
[5:50] Speaker 2: the moment didn't get his staff. Nobody got their arms
[5:53] Speaker 2: around the situation in the moment. And then after the game,
[5:57] Speaker 2: nobody got to Lincoln Riley to tell him. that the
[6:01] Speaker 2: entire football world has turned against your program. You need
[6:04] Speaker 2: to get out in front of this, and he didn't
[6:06] Speaker 2: do that. They waited almost 20 hours until it looked
[6:09] Speaker 2: like the AD, Jen Cohen, came in and made them
[6:12] Speaker 2: make written statements and things like that, and that's not
[6:15] Speaker 2: good enough. for the way that they i mean you
[6:18] Speaker 2: and i know we come from a football world where
[6:20] Speaker 2: that used to be a legal hit but that but
[6:22] Speaker 2: that being said he even even if it was a
[6:25] Speaker 2: legal hit even when i played when guys literally wanted
[6:28] Speaker 2: to kill each other if there was an ambulance in
[6:31] Speaker 2: the in the tunnel Nobody was on the sideline high-fiving
[6:35] Speaker 2: and laughing and celebrating. And if somebody was, because we
[6:38] Speaker 2: played with a lot of wacky, crazy guys with their
[6:41] Speaker 2: eyes like pinwheels when they're playing, somebody, some adult on
[6:45] Speaker 2: the sideline would... handle the situation and basically instill what
[6:50] Speaker 2: is supposed to be the culture of a healthy football team.
[6:54] Speaker 2: So that didn't happen, obviously, and it didn't happen soon
[6:58] Speaker 2: enough for anybody's liking. And because USC didn't get ahead
[7:02] Speaker 2: of the story and because most of the nation likes
[7:05] Speaker 2: seeing USC suffer, especially when they act arrogantly, it became
[7:10] Speaker 2: a bigger story than, hey, USC lost a football game
[7:13] Speaker 2: to Oregon. I mean, hell, that happens all the time.
[7:16] Speaker 2: So it was really interesting that they shot themselves in
[7:20] Speaker 2: the foot again, for lack of a better way to
[7:22] Speaker 2: put it. I mean, they once again have caused a
[7:26] Speaker 2: situation that didn't have to happen. And here they are
[7:30] Speaker 2: going into another week. They're lucky that Washington, I mean, Washington, frankly,
[7:34] Speaker 2: Jed Fish is lucky that USC lost the way they lost.
[7:38] Speaker 2: And that the story has legs because otherwise a lot
[7:42] Speaker 2: of people would be talking about how uninspired Washington looks
[7:46] Speaker 2: and how bad this season has been. And can this
[7:50] Speaker 2: guy recover the September that the dogs have had? But instead,
[7:54] Speaker 2: everybody's talking about Kalen DeBoer at USC, Lincoln Riley's buyout,
[8:00] Speaker 2: you know, $ 70 million plus 30 for everybody else. So
[8:04] Speaker 2: it's been a hell of a week. And then I
[8:06] Speaker 2: got to admit, Softie, I know that they're your big rivals,
[8:10] Speaker 2: but whoever is in the video department at Oregon, I
[8:13] Speaker 2: know they make a video after every win, but the
[8:16] Speaker 2: stuff that Dan Lanning connects and threads throughout the week,
[8:20] Speaker 2: the video department going back and forth like it's freaking
[8:23] Speaker 2: Pulp Fiction, the way they made the USC football team look,
[8:27] Speaker 2: rightfully so, in the moment and the fans, and then
[8:31] Speaker 2: the freaking chef's kiss, Pete Arbogast. With the with the
[8:39] Speaker 2: the quote that you got today, which, of course, you
[8:42] Speaker 2: furthered the story. But but Pete Armagast, who I worked
[8:46] Speaker 2: with for two years and I love Pete and I
[8:48] Speaker 2: love Bernawata, the spotter, and I love Sean Cody. But
[8:51] Speaker 2: that was an unbelievable moment. And the fact that everybody's
[8:55] Speaker 2: taping their their play by play stuff and then they
[8:58] Speaker 2: don't have the wherewithal to go back and clip that
[9:00] Speaker 2: out when everybody's talking about that one moment. And maybe
[9:03] Speaker 2: you didn't handle it the way you thought you would.
[9:05] Speaker 2: And maybe there shouldn't be a video of the way
[9:06] Speaker 2: you handled it. That stuff just made the week even crazier.
[9:11] Speaker 2: And maybe it would be different if the Dodgers were
[9:13] Speaker 2: in the wild card and there was live baseball or
[9:15] Speaker 2: God forbid the Angels. But that's not happening. And it's
[9:19] Speaker 2: become a national story. I mean, that Pete thing became
[9:23] Speaker 2: like it's got 12 million views. I can't freaking believe it.
[9:28] Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. And it's all leading up to this
[9:33] Speaker 2: game that we're both going to be out on Saturday
[9:36] Speaker 2: just by circumstance. And that's going to be a lot
[9:39] Speaker 2: of fun. Yeah, I talked to Pete today for the
[9:42] Speaker 2: pregame show, and he says he blew it. Says he
[9:45] Speaker 2: blew it. Says he got the call. I don't know
[9:47] Speaker 2: how many more years I have. Hopefully five, maybe 15.
[9:51] Speaker 2: And I will say that will not be the last
[9:53] Speaker 2: time I make a mistake. He's a stand-up guy. That's right.
[9:57] Speaker 2: I stand up. I stand for Marshall High. It takes
[10:01] Speaker 2: a man to admit his mistakes. That's the truth. And
[10:05] Speaker 2: he is admitting his mistakes. Well, I mean, you're totally right, though,
[10:08] Speaker 2: about the distraction of USC, that nobody's talking about UW
[10:14] Speaker 2: losing to Minnesota because of what's going on down there. Otherwise,
[10:18] Speaker 2: that's the story of the week in the Big Ten.
[10:20] Speaker 2: I mean, UW losing to Minnesota, they needed to win
[10:23] Speaker 2: that game. No doubt. They needed to win that game
[10:25] Speaker 2: more than Oregon needed to win at Stillwater. Right? I mean,
[10:28] Speaker 2: that's a conference game. You're at home. You need to
[10:30] Speaker 2: make a statement. And it didn't happen. So I don't
[10:35] Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. I mean, the offense isn't
[10:37] Speaker 2: what they thought they were going to be. The offensive
[10:39] Speaker 2: line isn't what they thought they were going to be.
[10:41] Speaker 2: The quarterback is sensational but sporadic. I guess defensively you
[10:46] Speaker 2: feel okay about him. But I think it's going to
[10:49] Speaker 2: be a very wild game between SC and Washington because
[10:53] Speaker 2: the loser– It's going to be in a real bad way.
[10:56] Speaker 2: The winner might not be in great shape, but at
[10:58] Speaker 2: least the winner is going to feel a little bit
[10:59] Speaker 2: better than the loser. And just the week that it's
[11:03] Speaker 2: been in town has been pretty wild. And, you know, Softie,
[11:07] Speaker 2: we're radio guys and we do this every day. So
[11:09] Speaker 2: we just kind of talk out of our ass. But
[11:11] Speaker 2: a lot of people we talk to are writers and.
[11:16] Speaker 2: people that write long form stories and people that are
[11:20] Speaker 2: looking for that moment of framing. And you really do
[11:25] Speaker 2: have that here. I mean, in that moment with that
[11:28] Speaker 2: hit and the way that Oregon handled it and the
[11:31] Speaker 2: way that USC handled it and what happened afterward and
[11:35] Speaker 2: what we know about Dan Lanning and what we know
[11:37] Speaker 2: about Lincoln Riley and what ensued. That's perfect framing. It's
[11:41] Speaker 2: a perfect story. And then you look at even in
[11:44] Speaker 2: the context of the city of Los Angeles, what about
[11:47] Speaker 2: the framing between what's happening at UCLA and what's happening
[11:51] Speaker 2: over at USC? Another story that begs to be written.
[11:55] Speaker 2: So it's a really, I mean, I didn't expect college
[11:57] Speaker 2: football to be this hot of a product in September
[12:00] Speaker 2: of this year, but it has been a lot of
[12:02] Speaker 2: fun to cover top to bottom. Well, let's talk about
[12:05] Speaker 2: the game on Saturday. What about it? I haven't done
[12:07] Speaker 2: enough research. I'll be there. You'll be there. We'll be
[12:10] Speaker 2: together on Friday. Breaking bread. Can't wait. Almost more excited
[12:15] Speaker 2: for that. Actually, I will tell you, I am more
[12:17] Speaker 2: excited for that. My wife's going to be in a
[12:18] Speaker 2: pretty bad mood. I hope we can recover things. Well,
[12:22] Speaker 2: I look forward to bringing her out of the darkness
[12:24] Speaker 2: and into the light. We'll see. I don't know. She's
[12:27] Speaker 2: pretty good. Let me have a crack at her. She
[12:29] Speaker 2: was pretty angry today. All right, well, let's talk about
[12:32] Speaker 2: Jaden Maieva. Let's talk about Mark Bowman, who Ryan Walters.
[12:35] Speaker 2: Maieva and Bowman. What'd I say? What'd I say? Maieva
[12:41] Speaker 2: and Bowman. Johnson and Switzer. Let's talk about those two guys,
[12:45] Speaker 2: all right? This Bowman, Ryan Walters said he looks like
[12:49] Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger, and he's one of the best tight ends
[12:52] Speaker 2: in the country. This guy scares me, freaks me out
[12:54] Speaker 2: a little bit. Tell me about him. He's a big,
[12:56] Speaker 2: swole tight end that can move around? Mm-hmm. Unlike me.
[13:00] Speaker 3: Right.
[13:00] Speaker 2: He's pretty swole. He's like WWE swole, like 1990s swole.
[13:05] Speaker 2: Remember those swole guys? You're talking like Rowdy Roddy Piper swole? Yeah,
[13:09] Speaker 2: kind of like that. Like my brother was swole like that.
[13:11] Speaker 2: My older brother Tasso still kind of is. He's pretty swole.
[13:15] Speaker 2: And this guy's pretty swole. But he's not as stiff
[13:18] Speaker 2: as my brother was. He's not like a gap-to-gap player
[13:21] Speaker 2: like my brother. He can open it up and run.
[13:24] Speaker 2: He kind of reminds me of a better version of
[13:26] Speaker 2: a super swole ex-USC fullback. Brandon Hancock, that's the guy,
[13:30] Speaker 2: the guy from Fresno. Just a real swole guy, but
[13:33] Speaker 2: pretty fast, and he can catch a ball and turn.
[13:35] Speaker 2: You know, a lot of guys that are real swole,
[13:37] Speaker 2: they can't catch a ball and turn, let alone wipe
[13:39] Speaker 2: their ass or like do the hey, what's up with
[13:42] Speaker 2: the neck motion, you know, like with your chin, like, hey,
[13:45] Speaker 2: what's up? Like the head nod. They got to do
[13:47] Speaker 2: that from the waist because it's so swole. So swole.
[13:52] Speaker 2: This guy swole like that, Softy. Okay. But he's legit.
[13:57] Speaker 2: USC has good players. That's not their problem. I think
[14:00] Speaker 2: we've established that for a long time. Well, who's in
[14:03] Speaker 2: more trouble right now? Washington with their offense or USC
[14:08] Speaker 2: with their defense, you think? Because that's where this game
[14:10] Speaker 2: is going to get decided. Well, you hope that Washington,
[14:13] Speaker 2: I mean, their head coach is an offensive quote-unquote genius.
[14:18] Speaker 2: And he has had a lot of success with a
[14:19] Speaker 2: lot of different offenses. And that's Jed Fish. Now, is
[14:23] Speaker 2: he a leader of men? Is he a head coach?
[14:26] Speaker 2: I don't know. Yes, he did a great job at Arizona.
[14:29] Speaker 2: Maybe he'd still be doing a great job in the
[14:31] Speaker 2: Big 12. Maybe the Big 10's not a great fit
[14:33] Speaker 2: for him, like it's not a great fit for Lincoln Riley.
[14:36] Speaker 2: But Jed Fish is an offensive guy, and the problem
[14:39] Speaker 2: with Washington is the offense. Lincoln Riley is not a
[14:43] Speaker 2: defensive guy, and no one has been able, not Alex Grinch,
[14:47] Speaker 2: not De'Anne Lynn, and not Gary Patterson's been worse than
[14:50] Speaker 2: both so far. None of those, nobody's been able to
[14:53] Speaker 2: coordinate defense around Lincoln Riley and consistently stop people the
[14:57] Speaker 2: way you need to be to win a Big Ten
[15:00] Speaker 2: championship or get to the playoff or anything like that.
[15:03] Speaker 2: So I would say it's a bigger problem for USC
[15:06] Speaker 2: in the moment. But, I mean, it's a modern era
[15:09] Speaker 2: of football. NIL and all the money and, look, you
[15:14] Speaker 2: guys had a quarterback that almost left and maybe there's
[15:16] Speaker 2: some bad feelings residually. Maybe that's part of the way
[15:19] Speaker 2: the offense is playing. I don't know, but it is
[15:22] Speaker 2: a modern era of college football, but we still have
[15:26] Speaker 2: moments like Oregon state started the year out. Oh, and two, right. Yeah.
[15:31] Speaker 2: And some hard luck losses, but their coach had good enthusiasm.
[15:35] Speaker 2: The players said the right things. They're a team that
[15:38] Speaker 2: probably nobody's making a million dollars in the NIL. So
[15:42] Speaker 2: they lock arms, they fight together and they create positive
[15:47] Speaker 2: things and victories and you'll go back into a positive motion.
[15:51] Speaker 2: Sometimes on a team like USC or Washington, where people
[15:57] Speaker 2: are very expectant of great things and something goes wrong,
[16:03] Speaker 2: like it did last week for SC or like it
[16:05] Speaker 2: did last week for the dogs, both at home. So
[16:08] Speaker 2: you do it in front of everybody. It's embarrassing. And
[16:12] Speaker 2: sometimes those teams that I have, I have experience with
[16:15] Speaker 2: this because when I was at USC, very similar, everybody's
[16:18] Speaker 2: a big time recruit and, Everybody has a certain amount
[16:21] Speaker 2: of entitlement. And when you start to lose games, people
[16:24] Speaker 2: can kind of splinter off. And it's sometimes harder for
[16:28] Speaker 2: those teams to come back together and overcome adversity because
[16:32] Speaker 2: of everybody's individual expectations. And if there's one thing you
[16:36] Speaker 2: could say about USC is they've been a great star-making machine,
[16:40] Speaker 2: but the team never emerges. No matter what, under Lincoln Riley,
[16:44] Speaker 2: the team has never kind of emerged the way it
[16:46] Speaker 2: needs to be for them to be great. And I
[16:49] Speaker 2: think both coaches have a big recovery project in store
[16:55] Speaker 2: for them. Can they pay him off if this thing
[16:58] Speaker 2: falls apart? I have no idea. 70, do they have it?
[17:02] Speaker 2: I mean, I can say names of all the rich
[17:03] Speaker 2: people and whether they're dead or alive. Who are they?
[17:06] Speaker 2: Wayne Hughes is dead. The guy that paid for O.J.
[17:09] Speaker 2: Simpson's defense and the guy that owned public storage. He's
[17:12] Speaker 2: one of the biggest donors in the history of universities
[17:16] Speaker 2: on the West Coast. But that's the guy that installed
[17:19] Speaker 2: Lynn Swan and Clay Helton. So not not really that
[17:22] Speaker 2: ancient of history, but he's dead. And the Lewis Galen
[17:27] Speaker 2: has been dead longer than that. The guy that built
[17:28] Speaker 2: the Galen Center and Brian Kennedy is suing them. The
[17:33] Speaker 2: guy that built the practice field because they took his
[17:35] Speaker 2: name off the practice field. I don't think he has
[17:37] Speaker 2: as much money as the guys, the former guys that
[17:40] Speaker 2: I mentioned. And then there's Rick Caruso, the guy that
[17:44] Speaker 2: ran for mayor. But he gave him 90 million dollars
[17:47] Speaker 2: to get rid of Clay Helton and hire Lincoln Riley. Yeah.
[17:50] Speaker 2: You think he wants to give you another hundred million? Yeah.
[17:53] Speaker 2: To save USC football again, to make up for his
[17:55] Speaker 2: last mistake. You know, I mean, that sounds like a
[17:58] Speaker 2: Big Lou commercial. Big Lou's just like you. He's on drugs, too.
[18:05] Speaker 2: He's broke, too. Big Lou's just like you, but he's
[18:09] Speaker 2: only on number two. Yeah, so.
[18:14] Speaker 2: You like that, huh? Big Lou is just like you.
[18:18] Speaker 2: He's on number two. And you've got to pay for
[18:20] Speaker 2: your previous mistakes? Yes, that's what USC has to do.
[18:23] Speaker 2: So they're screwed. They're hosed. I don't know. I don't know. Well,
[18:26] Speaker 2: what do I know? I don't know. Well, Canzano called
[18:29] Speaker 2: him a child in his latest column. Yeah, he did. Well,
[18:32] Speaker 2: you know, he's pretty petulant. I mean, if somebody... USC
[18:38] Speaker 2: can't be that stupid, right? Somebody must have told him
[18:40] Speaker 2: that this thing with the linebacker didn't go over well,
[18:44] Speaker 2: and he just didn't handle it well. There's a much
[18:46] Speaker 2: easier way to handle that. I mean, I don't have
[18:48] Speaker 2: that much love for Sark and his administrative ability, but
[18:53] Speaker 2: Sark knows how to handle that. Even Kiffin, these guys
[18:55] Speaker 2: who are play callers. they know how to handle that
[18:57] Speaker 2: stuff a thousand times better than, than Lincoln Riley. And
[19:01] Speaker 2: I was, I didn't see it. I was calling plays.
[19:03] Speaker 2: I mean, that's, you know, that as an excuse is
[19:06] Speaker 2: almost part of the problem, isn't it? Because the other
[19:10] Speaker 2: two phases of your football team obviously aren't, aren't, aren't that,
[19:13] Speaker 2: I mean, USC is a mess on defense. People are
[19:16] Speaker 2: running wide ass open and the more they put on tape,
[19:19] Speaker 2: I mean, what happened? San Jose state put 26 on
[19:22] Speaker 2: them and then, Rutgers 35, the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns put 30,
[19:28] Speaker 2: and then Oregon, what did they do? What did they
[19:31] Speaker 2: put on them? 43 or something? I don't know. They
[19:34] Speaker 2: put over 500 yards of offense on them. So it'll
[19:38] Speaker 2: be interesting. I think Washington has a chance to get
[19:40] Speaker 2: their offense going, that's for sure. Yeah, well, I hope
[19:42] Speaker 2: they do. If they can't do it this weekend, then
[19:44] Speaker 2: it may never happen. You know, it's like in Rocky.
[19:47] Speaker 2: If it ain't going to happen now, it ain't never
[19:49] Speaker 2: going to happen against USC. So let's get it going.
[19:52] Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you Friday night, man. Looking forward
[19:54] Speaker 2: to it. Looking forward to it, yeah. And thank you
[19:56] Speaker 2: for that, Arbo. You did the impossible. You got Arbo
[19:58] Speaker 2: to speak. It was unbelievable. Well done. Well, enjoy that.
[20:02] Speaker 2: Have fun with that. And we'll see you Saturday. Actually,
[20:04] Speaker 2: we'll see you Friday and Saturday. Yes, sir. We'll see
[20:07] Speaker 2: you then. Yes. Okay. Petros Papadakis with us. We're going
[20:10] Speaker 2: to break. Kevin Harlan at 5 on 93.3 KJRFM.

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