# Houston’s Matt Thomas on Former Manager Joe Espada, Meeting w/ M’s

An episode of [Softy & Dick Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1245866571), 13 Oct 2026, 10 min.

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Matt Thomas from SportsTalk 790 in Houston joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about former Astros Manager Joe Espada meeting with the Mariners about their managerial opening including his blame for the team’s lack of success in the playoffs, the fans’ feelings about Espada, if he can hold players accountable and his personality. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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