# DARK SIDE OF THE MATTS: A spectacular row erupts over NASA’s moonshot

An episode of [The Two Matts](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1236139906), 2 Apr 2026, 1 h 02 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/648c40140701dc00113b4626/e/69ce6948f57702d2d9fd6c30/media.mp3

The Matts fall out spectacularly and unexpectedly over NASA’s moon shot, Artemis 2. How is this even possible, you ask? They’re not even sure… but the topic quickly descends into a brutal space war of words. In part two, common ground is regained as they analyse the latest Trump position on Iran and ask whether this war is going to push the UK back into the arms of the EU faster than anyone could have hoped. Produced by Matt Withers OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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