# Andy Burnham vs Geoffrey Howe... and a side order of Jason Arday

An episode of [The Two Matts](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1236139906), 13 Aug 2026, 57 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/648c40140701dc00113b4626/e/6a7dad27baea6e03b06bbb6f/media.mp3

The Matts remember an astonishing letter of 45 years ago which provides stark contrast with Andy Burnham’s politics of place. Also - how the Jason Arday saga has shamed not just one academic but an entire university… and much of the liberal establishment whose instinctive rush to defend Arday is indicative of a deeper problem. Enjoy! Produced by Matt Withers OFFER: Subscribe to The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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