# Fludemic, Zack Polanski, and a (rare) big-up to Keir

An episode of [The Two Matts](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1236139906), 11 Dec 2025, 39 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/648c40140701dc00113b4626/e/693af7a54d362887b720f229/media.mp3

The Matts wonder what we’ve learned since Covid … and if the reaction to the current flu outbreak is anything to go by, the answer is not much. The conversation segways into Zack Polanski and political energy. Then in part two, both Matts are united - for once - in praise for Keir Starmer’s attempt to reinterpret the European Convention on Human Rights to deliver swift action on asylum seekers who break our laws. Enjoy! Head to nakedwines.co.uk/matts to get a £30 voucher and 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included. OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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