# The Show: Alarming Stats, Wide Receiver Hit Rates, and More

An episode of [The Late-Round Fantasy Football Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1224965828), 18 Jun 2026, 54 min.

Audio: https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/0a233618-d694-4c81-a139-b34e00f98fb1/1b4926e0-446e-4a33-a7ff-b46b01181bf7/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=5747cc82-33a9-497c-8353-b34e00f98fbe

JJ and Kitchen talk about this week's news items, early-round wide receiver hit rates via one particular metric, alarming stats from 2025, and more. ---------- All DraftKings Customers enter a lineup into the Best Ball $20 million Headliner Contest and receive a bonus ticket for a 2nd entry! Download the DraftKings app and sign up using https://bit.ly/LateRound2026 or promo code LATEROUND! The Crown is Yours! Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Help is available for problem gambling. Call (888) 789-7777 or visit ccpg.org (CT). 18+ in most eligible states, but age varies by jurisdiction. Eligibility restrictions apply. Void where prohibited. 1 per customer. Must enter a lineup into the NFL Best Ball $20M Headliner Contest. $25 entry fee. Bonus issued as 1 ticket to NFL Best Ball $20M Headliner Contest. Ticket reward is site credit valid for use only on NFL Best Ball $20M Headliner Contest. Ticket reward is single-use and expires at contest lock on 9/9/26. See terms at https://www.draftkings.com/promotions. Ends 9/9/26 at contest lock. Sponsored by DraftKings. #DKPartner See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You're about to listen to the Late Round Fantasy Football show,
[0:02] Speaker 1: which originally aired on YouTube. If you'd like to catch
[0:05] Speaker 1: the show live this offseason, you can head to the
[0:07] Speaker 1: Late Round Fantasy Football YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash
[0:11] Speaker 1: at Late Round FF will be live each Wednesday at
[0:14] Speaker 1: noon Eastern without further ado.
[0:17] Speaker 2: Here's this week's.
[0:18] Speaker 3: Episode, Welcome In.
[0:32] Speaker 4: Welcome In.
[0:33] Speaker 5: It's a Late Round Fantasy football show sponsored by DraftKings.
[0:36] Speaker 5: David Kitchen here alongside my pal, my friend, my employer,
[0:45] Speaker 5: the guy that I am currently in battle alongside JJ
[0:50] Speaker 5: Zach reeson JJ.
[0:51] Speaker 4: How's it going?
[0:52] Speaker 2: Well, what's up?
[0:52] Speaker 1: First off, I'm the one who just lost power right
[0:55] Speaker 1: before the show started, and I think you have the
[0:57] Speaker 1: wrong mic input right now?
[0:59] Speaker 4: Okay, Well, so I would.
[1:01] Speaker 1: I would at least make sure that because it sounds
[1:03] Speaker 1: like it's coming from your computer.
[1:04] Speaker 2: As opposed to the microphone right now. Okay, But no,
[1:08] Speaker 2: things things are hectic.
[1:10] Speaker 1: There's stuff going on in work life, there's stuff going
[1:14] Speaker 1: on in personal life. That's just a lot. So bear
[1:18] Speaker 1: with me as I navigate those things. If you're if
[1:22] Speaker 1: you're a member, if you're a listener, hopefully you know
[1:27] Speaker 1: in a few weeks things are.
[1:29] Speaker 2: Totally back to normal. But I know the podcast.
[1:31] Speaker 1: Feeds but been looking a little bit different with the
[1:32] Speaker 1: rewind episodes all that kind of stuff.
[1:34] Speaker 2: So bear with me.
[1:36] Speaker 4: Yeah, we're does sound good? Okay, you sound good now? Yeah?
[1:40] Speaker 4: All right, yeah, I mean we are just all over
[1:43] Speaker 4: the place. And part of that is also because of
[1:47] Speaker 4: this humongous project we call the Draft Guide that will
[1:54] Speaker 4: release July tenth, so twenty four days until the Draft Guide,
[1:58] Speaker 4: and that gives a little bit of anxiety, but that's okay.
[2:02] Speaker 4: We are breaking this down and starting. This is going
[2:06] Speaker 4: to be unlike any other late round draft guide we
[2:09] Speaker 4: have had in the past. We'll say that, and it's
[2:12] Speaker 4: going to be really good. But also it means a
[2:15] Speaker 4: lot more kind of brain power and you know, stuff
[2:19] Speaker 4: that we're doing that we haven't done the past. We've
[2:21] Speaker 4: got brain adula helping us out. But thoughts on the
[2:25] Speaker 4: draft Guide.
[2:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, So to give you guys an idea where I'm at,
[2:29] Speaker 1: I'm hopefully going to wrap up the wide receiver section
[2:32] Speaker 1: here soon and then move on to to talking some
[2:34] Speaker 1: tight ends and working on tight ends. But there's also
[2:37] Speaker 1: you know, a whole brand new area of that Draft
[2:40] Speaker 1: guide where I'm going to be kind of using you know,
[2:44] Speaker 1: in the past, I think we mentioned this last week
[2:46] Speaker 1: a little bit, But in the past it's been you know,
[2:49] Speaker 1: positional section and then your approach to this year positional section,
[2:52] Speaker 1: and then your approach to this year. This year, though,
[2:55] Speaker 1: it's more so bringing that all together and having a
[2:58] Speaker 1: more comprehensive approach to your drafts this season. That brings
[3:03] Speaker 1: together all of those different parts, right, And so like
[3:06] Speaker 1: you said, it's like laid out a little bit different.
[3:08] Speaker 1: There's brand new content in it, a lot new content
[3:11] Speaker 1: and needed kind of a refresh, and that's exactly what
[3:13] Speaker 1: you're getting in this twenty twenty six version.
[3:16] Speaker 4: Okay. And with that being said, we also have the
[3:19] Speaker 4: new website that you can go and become a member
[3:23] Speaker 4: lateround dot com. Also, you've become an All Access member
[3:28] Speaker 4: for one annual price and get both our Draft Guide
[3:33] Speaker 4: and our Rookie Prospect Guide that we do every year
[3:38] Speaker 4: and everything else that comes with our memberships, as far
[3:42] Speaker 4: as the discord the rankings that you get. So consider
[3:48] Speaker 4: becoming an All Access member if you haven't already. And
[3:51] Speaker 4: we want to give a shout out to our sponsor draftings.
[3:53] Speaker 4: We talk about the Dogo. I had someone message me
[3:56] Speaker 4: the other day say, I love Dogo. Is another marketing
[3:59] Speaker 4: guy for another company nice, And I said, well, we'll
[4:02] Speaker 4: just run with it. Then it's the draft one get
[4:04] Speaker 4: one promotion with DraftKings, and so you draft one, you
[4:10] Speaker 4: get a bonus entry and you can find that link
[4:14] Speaker 4: in the description of this podcast or video that you're watching.
[4:19] Speaker 4: So just know that it's a twenty million dollar contest
[4:22] Speaker 4: this year. And we've got the Becoming a Best Ball
[4:25] Speaker 4: bro series that is kicked off. We've got the live streams.
[4:28] Speaker 4: I'm actually going to be drafting a live stream tomorrow
[4:32] Speaker 4: and Thursday morning, so make sure you have notifications on
[4:36] Speaker 4: for this JJ. As far as the Best Ball scenes,
[4:41] Speaker 4: we're getting some news that are kind of affecting some
[4:46] Speaker 4: of these ADPs with Bestball.
[4:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, you know, we're still waiting on some
[4:51] Speaker 1: guys to be signed and stuff. But yeah, I mean,
[4:53] Speaker 1: like this is, in my opinion, like this is a
[4:55] Speaker 1: really interesting time to draft basketball lineups, just because you're
[4:58] Speaker 1: going to find some good CLV some really good value
[5:03] Speaker 1: in guys that you're drafting late, just based on there's
[5:06] Speaker 1: still you know, a month and a half before things
[5:08] Speaker 1: like really get solidified or two months before things really
[5:11] Speaker 1: get solidified. So right now you can you can definitely
[5:15] Speaker 1: find some value out there hopefully, you know, like like
[5:18] Speaker 1: last year, you know, there was like the Keenan Allen
[5:20] Speaker 1: stuff that happened and he rose. You know, I think
[5:23] Speaker 1: Stephan Diggs right now is one that will eventually rise
[5:26] Speaker 1: in ADP once he signs.
[5:27] Speaker 2: But there's also some just like off the field stuff.
[5:30] Speaker 1: For there's you know, one player in particular who keeps
[5:34] Speaker 1: posting on Instagram that we'll probably get to. But yeah,
[5:37] Speaker 1: I mean, like I think it's a really interesting time
[5:39] Speaker 1: to draft basketball teams.
[5:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you said that, JJ, because we and
[5:43] Speaker 4: do indeed have to get to some news and notes.
[5:49] Speaker 4: Today's fantasy news. All right, it starts with some unfortunate
[5:56] Speaker 4: news out of New Orleans last week about the Cris
[6:00] Speaker 4: Salavea blood clots. Again, a lot of these, like some
[6:02] Speaker 4: of these injuries is just like, all right, I'm not
[6:04] Speaker 4: a doctor, like and I don't you know, I don't
[6:08] Speaker 4: pretend to be one, but you do kind of look
[6:10] Speaker 4: at people that are doctors to see what they're saying.
[6:14] Speaker 4: But what's your overall take on the Chris a lava
[6:18] Speaker 4: situation because his ADP is currently falling as well.
[6:21] Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's serious stuff anytime you're talking you know,
[6:23] Speaker 1: blood clots or blood clot disorders.
[6:26] Speaker 2: Or whatever the case may be.
[6:27] Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the unfortunate side of this
[6:30] Speaker 1: is that we do have to react in probably a
[6:32] Speaker 1: slightly negative way.
[6:33] Speaker 2: I was kind of below market with a lave.
[6:35] Speaker 1: So I'll probably meet the market a little bit more
[6:38] Speaker 1: at this point as a result of this, because I
[6:40] Speaker 1: think that, you know, this is one of those things
[6:42] Speaker 1: where I feel like if it were a serious, serious
[6:46] Speaker 1: threat to his playing time, it would be a bigger
[6:49] Speaker 1: story and a bigger deal and that would have been
[6:51] Speaker 1: like released in some way. But it doesn't seem like
[6:55] Speaker 1: that's totally the case. This is a bigger but this
[6:57] Speaker 1: is like one of those injuries. It's like, okay, like, yes,
[7:00] Speaker 1: it sucks whenever these guys like break their ankles and stuff,
[7:03] Speaker 1: you know, or like have like a really bad you know,
[7:05] Speaker 1: acl tair or something like that. Like this is like
[7:08] Speaker 1: one of those injuries where it's it's not really injury,
[7:11] Speaker 1: it's it's a bigger, like just deal to his livelihood.
[7:14] Speaker 1: You know, Like obviously, you know, I'm not diminishing what
[7:17] Speaker 1: happens to an a with an acl tair or anything
[7:19] Speaker 1: like that, but this this is one of those things
[7:21] Speaker 1: where it's harder to speculate on because it's.
[7:24] Speaker 2: Not like we see this happen as like a football injury.
[7:27] Speaker 1: So my my, my general thoughts are, I hope a
[7:30] Speaker 1: Lave is good, hope he gets well. You know, he
[7:32] Speaker 1: went through the concussion stuff kind of last year before
[7:35] Speaker 1: the season started. You know, he stayed healthy, which was great,
[7:37] Speaker 1: and he ended up being a fantastic player for the
[7:40] Speaker 1: Saints last year, and I'm hoping I'm hoping.
[7:42] Speaker 2: For the same result this time around as well.
[7:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, the next one Rashie Rice Reed. I
[7:49] Speaker 4: almost went with Freed Rice on this one, but thirty
[7:52] Speaker 4: days thirty day jail sentence has been served, so well,
[7:57] Speaker 4: I guess we'll see now what happens as far as like,
[8:01] Speaker 4: you know, he had surgery right before he went to jail.
[8:04] Speaker 1: Did you did you see the video that came out? No,
[8:07] Speaker 1: So there's a video of him leaving jail, and there's
[8:09] Speaker 1: and there's cameras everywhere, right, there's people, a couple of
[8:12] Speaker 1: people like on camera, right, and he ran from them.
[8:15] Speaker 4: Which, hey, hey, it's a good sign, right.
[8:22] Speaker 2: You know, like like, you know, he seems like he
[8:25] Speaker 2: you know, he uh able to run a little out
[8:28] Speaker 2: route against the reporters or the camera people there, and
[8:31] Speaker 2: and just bolted into a black suv and he drove off.
[8:34] Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like hopefully everything's good. I I've
[8:39] Speaker 1: admittedly from look, I'm a I have to be a
[8:41] Speaker 1: fantasy analyst. I have to see what's going to be
[8:44] Speaker 1: best for our fantasy teams. I do think that in
[8:47] Speaker 1: a best ball environment, the dip has been substantial enough
[8:51] Speaker 1: to draft Orshi Rice uh, just because you know, we've
[8:56] Speaker 1: we've seen them use players in the past that had
[8:59] Speaker 1: questionable back slash he himself did. I don't think that
[9:03] Speaker 1: the newest issue of what happened, given what it was.
[9:08] Speaker 1: We said this whenever he was he was arrested again.
[9:10] Speaker 1: It's like the the thing that we're concerned about is
[9:14] Speaker 1: just like the mental state you got to be in
[9:17] Speaker 1: to like make that mistake, right, like to do that,
[9:20] Speaker 1: and to to you know, use weed, and and and
[9:24] Speaker 1: like when you know that you can't, like you just
[9:27] Speaker 1: cannot do that.
[9:27] Speaker 2: It's not really the thing that he did.
[9:29] Speaker 1: It's it's doing that when you knew that you were
[9:32] Speaker 1: on probation the way that you were. With that being said,
[9:36] Speaker 1: the actual crime for this is not something that the
[9:38] Speaker 1: NFL is like hammering down on at this point. So
[9:41] Speaker 1: I don't know if anything's really gonna come of that. Obviously,
[9:45] Speaker 1: the original reason that he was on probation is horrible,
[9:48] Speaker 1: but you know, what he did this time around wasn't
[9:50] Speaker 1: wasn't as like bad from like how you know the
[9:53] Speaker 1: NFL might view things YadA, YadA, YadA. So with that,
[9:56] Speaker 1: I do think that he could just end up playing.
[9:59] Speaker 1: You know, he served his time. You just got to
[10:01] Speaker 1: hope that the rehab was okay. If you are drafting Rashi.
[10:04] Speaker 4: Rice, yeah, you know he's his ADP has fallen a
[10:10] Speaker 4: little bit as well, one of those guys. I wonder
[10:13] Speaker 4: if it will start climbing back up. Also, the Chiefs,
[10:17] Speaker 4: this is not on here, but the Chiefs extended Patrick
[10:19] Speaker 4: Mahomes two more years. The thing. He's playing until like
[10:21] Speaker 4: twenty fifty.
[10:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean Patrick Mahomes is never going
[10:25] Speaker 2: to retire.
[10:26] Speaker 4: Yeah, but half a half a billion dollars.
[10:29] Speaker 2: Yeah. The Rashi Rice stuff I think is different.
[10:31] Speaker 1: You know, we're getting Lso and Chad asking about, you know,
[10:35] Speaker 1: is when is the discipline issues becoming a thing as
[10:37] Speaker 1: super concerning for dynasty? Agreed, if you want to get
[10:39] Speaker 1: rid of him in dynasty, especially because I think in
[10:41] Speaker 1: dynasty you have kind of like a closer connection to
[10:44] Speaker 1: players in a way where it's like like you root
[10:46] Speaker 1: for them more. If you don't want to deal with this,
[10:48] Speaker 1: don't deal with it like you like, you know, like
[10:51] Speaker 1: sell them eighty cents in the dollar and just kind
[10:53] Speaker 1: of take your loss and kind of move on that
[10:55] Speaker 1: you didn't.
[10:55] Speaker 2: Sell him at the peak of where Rice was.
[10:58] Speaker 1: I do think that there's a very real chance that
[11:00] Speaker 1: it improves and where he's at currently in the dynasty
[11:03] Speaker 1: landscape improves.
[11:04] Speaker 2: But if you don't want to deal with it anymore,
[11:05] Speaker 2: don't deal with it.
[11:06] Speaker 1: I don't think that's like an unreasonable way to approach
[11:09] Speaker 1: your own dynasty roster management, you know. But I do
[11:13] Speaker 1: think that he's going to play this year, and you know,
[11:18] Speaker 1: I think that Rashid Rice is probably an overrated player
[11:21] Speaker 1: when you look at his production and what he's done
[11:25] Speaker 1: in fantasy football versus how good he is as a player.
[11:28] Speaker 1: But I think that he's still in this system that
[11:30] Speaker 1: just is very beneficial for him to score Fantasy points.
[11:32] Speaker 1: And so that's how I'm treating it. And so with him,
[11:36] Speaker 1: like realistically, if there were no question marks about Rashi Rice,
[11:38] Speaker 1: he'd be a very firm middle round two pick, very
[11:42] Speaker 1: maybe even early round two. Yeah, right, And right now
[11:45] Speaker 1: on DraftKings, you can get him. I mean, he's fallen
[11:47] Speaker 1: to the late third because so because like that's a
[11:52] Speaker 1: lot of equity for what's been going on right now,
[11:55] Speaker 1: which is why I've been more okay drafting him. It
[11:57] Speaker 1: might butt me, but it might bite me, but I
[12:01] Speaker 1: do think that it's at least logical.
[12:04] Speaker 4: Okay, Next we have supplemental Sowsby Brendon Soresby. After all
[12:10] Speaker 4: that commotion, after all that drama, he's now back to
[12:14] Speaker 4: entering the NFL's supplemental draft. We haven't seen a guy
[12:19] Speaker 4: like him since who was Josh Gordon and somebody else?
[12:24] Speaker 4: Tyrrell Prior. I think I think I.
[12:26] Speaker 2: Saw that too, that's right.
[12:28] Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I think I saw that on on
[12:33] Speaker 4: Ryan McDowell. He wrote an article about this because this
[12:37] Speaker 4: is putting the NFL in flux, and it's also putting
[12:40] Speaker 4: all these dynasty leagues that have already drafted in flux too, Like,
[12:45] Speaker 4: what what do you do?
[12:47] Speaker 1: I mean, I think that if you because like ninety
[12:50] Speaker 1: plus percent of dynasty leagues I would imagine already had
[12:53] Speaker 1: their rookie drafts. Right, I'm a commission a couple of leagues,
[12:56] Speaker 1: and what I'm doing is I am saying no one
[12:59] Speaker 1: can and have soresby this year, and he can just
[13:02] Speaker 1: be added to the player pool next year. Now, look,
[13:05] Speaker 1: that might mean that he's the one to ozho three,
[13:08] Speaker 1: it might mean that he's the four h nine, you
[13:10] Speaker 1: know that that he just doesn't matter at all in
[13:13] Speaker 1: drafts next season. But the reason so I've seen a
[13:15] Speaker 1: lot of people talk about having him just be a
[13:19] Speaker 1: blind bid player right now. And the issue I have
[13:23] Speaker 1: with that blanket statement is that there's a lot of
[13:26] Speaker 1: deep dynasty leagues out there where multiple people will blow
[13:30] Speaker 1: all of their free agent budget on that singular player,
[13:33] Speaker 1: and I don't want the reward to be the tie break,
[13:37] Speaker 1: which is just waiver order, you know, to be able
[13:40] Speaker 1: to claim that guy. So instead the way that I'm
[13:42] Speaker 1: handling it, people might disagree, and that's fine. I don't
[13:44] Speaker 1: think there's a right answer. There's not a right right
[13:48] Speaker 1: so I know that people are like, oh, this is stupid.
[13:50] Speaker 1: You should be able to bid on them. Fine, if
[13:51] Speaker 1: you want to do that. I don't have a problem
[13:53] Speaker 1: with that. I'm just letting you know my logic. I
[13:55] Speaker 1: think that you wait till twenty twenty seven, and yes,
[13:59] Speaker 1: you're going to have a year of knowing how good
[14:01] Speaker 1: or bad he is, what team he's on, all that
[14:03] Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But at least there's an equal chance
[14:06] Speaker 1: of anyone wanting to trade up to get him, or
[14:10] Speaker 1: you know, just drafting him straight up, whatever the case
[14:12] Speaker 1: may be.
[14:12] Speaker 2: It's just a cleaner way of doing it, in my opinion.
[14:15] Speaker 4: Another solution. This was why I was reading the Ryan
[14:17] Speaker 4: mcdoll ad is or article is because he talked about
[14:25] Speaker 4: like a not just a blind bit system, but a
[14:29] Speaker 4: future pick. So just like the NFL will sacrifice the
[14:34] Speaker 4: future pick.
[14:36] Speaker 1: Yeah McDowell whatever that art, Like, I'm sure he's retweeted
[14:39] Speaker 1: or something. McDowell is the king of this kind of stuff, Like, yeah,
[14:43] Speaker 1: he gives three, he gives three possible solutions.
[14:46] Speaker 4: That number one yours number two? Okay, yeah, okay, it.
[14:49] Speaker 2: Was was was number one was number one. The free
[14:51] Speaker 2: agent budget, just like being able to bet on him
[14:53] Speaker 2: as a norm.
[14:53] Speaker 5: No.
[14:54] Speaker 4: Number one was the uh you supplement it with like
[14:57] Speaker 4: your draft picks, so someone could say, all right, I
[15:00] Speaker 4: will give up my third round draft pick next year
[15:03] Speaker 4: for this. Yeah.
[15:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's there's a there's a lot
[15:07] Speaker 1: of ways to do it, but I would. I mean, look,
[15:09] Speaker 1: McDowell's awesome, and McDowell is now full time DLF.
[15:12] Speaker 4: So yeah, congrats to him for the retirement from his
[15:16] Speaker 4: teaching job and now he gets to be full time DLF.
[15:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, And so, I mean, we love McDowell.
[15:20] Speaker 1: He's a he's a friend of the show, and so him,
[15:24] Speaker 1: you know, he's someone who's done commissioner stuff for years
[15:28] Speaker 1: and yeah, you know he's he's deeper into those kind
[15:30] Speaker 1: of dynasty weeds than I am. So I'm sure he
[15:33] Speaker 1: has better solutions than me. But the one that did
[15:35] Speaker 1: pop to mind for me, because it's the easiest as
[15:37] Speaker 1: a commissioner in my opinion, is just be like, Nope,
[15:40] Speaker 1: we're waiting until twenty twenty seven.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Too bad. This is just the way we're doing.
[15:43] Speaker 4: It in the league that you and I are in.
[15:45] Speaker 4: I got notification in the chat from the Siege shocker. Yeah,
[15:51] Speaker 4: DF former DFS player, and he was like, so are
[15:54] Speaker 4: we doing to suppintal draft like the NFL doesn't. And
[15:56] Speaker 4: I'm just like, as the commissioner, I'm just like, I
[15:58] Speaker 4: don't want I just don't want to deal with it
[16:00] Speaker 4: right now, you know. Just But there's also I wonder
[16:02] Speaker 4: like that that solution.
[16:04] Speaker 1: You know, of course you can say like I put
[16:06] Speaker 1: up a third, but how what if someone else has
[16:07] Speaker 1: a third?
[16:08] Speaker 2: Like how do you rule the tap?
[16:09] Speaker 4: Then you get I guess into figuring out I don't like,
[16:13] Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know right that that solution is.
[16:16] Speaker 4: But there are teams that are also doing this. So
[16:20] Speaker 4: you've had, you know, people thinking that the Browns should
[16:24] Speaker 4: do it. You know, Brown's head coach is saying, not
[16:29] Speaker 4: really something I'm interested in. Our GM might feel differently.
[16:33] Speaker 4: Uh some people are saying the Eagles should with all
[16:36] Speaker 4: their picks that they have. Uh so one I saw yet, Yes, So.
[16:44] Speaker 1: I bet the Jets are favorites right now if I
[16:47] Speaker 1: were to look at I don't know what if a
[16:49] Speaker 1: sportsbook has if like DK has the odds or anything
[16:52] Speaker 1: like that, But I don't know. It's it's going to
[16:54] Speaker 1: be interesting from from my perspective, it seems like, like, look,
[16:59] Speaker 1: the one I cannot stand are the people who are like,
[17:02] Speaker 1: he could have been QB one in this class, Like,
[17:04] Speaker 1: let's let's slow down. I don't think that was going
[17:07] Speaker 1: to happen, But uh, could he have been QB two
[17:09] Speaker 1: in this class? You know, Like is that a reasonable
[17:13] Speaker 1: thing to I mean, maybe, but probably not because Simpson
[17:16] Speaker 1: went pretty high.
[17:18] Speaker 2: But QB three, yeah, I mean he could have been
[17:20] Speaker 2: a Day two pick without the off the field stuff.
[17:24] Speaker 4: Okay, we avoided some drama with George Pickens reportedly reporting
[17:30] Speaker 4: for mandatory mini camps. So good on George Pickens, and
[17:34] Speaker 4: we can just put this to bed right now, right JJ.
[17:37] Speaker 2: I don't know about that. We'll see, we'll see what.
[17:40] Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes down with all that and
[17:42] Speaker 1: how much he practices, et cetera, et cetera. I will
[17:45] Speaker 1: say a lot of the trend stuff that I'm working
[17:47] Speaker 1: on for the Draft Guide does like George Pickens. I
[17:50] Speaker 1: also want to tease something else, and that is I
[17:54] Speaker 1: talked about market Score on a podcast episode a couple
[17:57] Speaker 1: of weeks ago.
[17:58] Speaker 2: I've gotten a lot of feed from people.
[18:01] Speaker 1: About how we're talking about market Score and how we're
[18:04] Speaker 1: displaying market Score. And so next week my hope. Again,
[18:09] Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on, so things can change.
[18:12] Speaker 2: Don't hold me to this.
[18:13] Speaker 1: At least this next week or the week after, there's
[18:16] Speaker 1: going to be a new market Score episode because we're
[18:18] Speaker 1: changing the way that we're kind of approaching market Score
[18:21] Speaker 1: in multiple ways. We have a little bit different inputs,
[18:23] Speaker 1: you know. I kind of introduced the idea and said
[18:26] Speaker 1: this is kind of evolving, and it is, and it
[18:28] Speaker 1: evolved a lot based on your feedback because I think
[18:31] Speaker 1: the way that people were consuming market Score was not
[18:35] Speaker 1: necessarily the way we wanted people to consume market Score.
[18:38] Speaker 1: So our solution is to really approach this similarly as
[18:41] Speaker 1: a zapp score, and that's what we're going to be doing,
[18:43] Speaker 1: same zero to one hundred type scale and such. But
[18:46] Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing an episode on that's that
[18:48] Speaker 1: we're all on the same page with market Score. And
[18:50] Speaker 1: I bring that up because market Score really liked and
[18:54] Speaker 1: still does. I believe George Pickens and a lot of
[18:58] Speaker 1: the trends that I'm looking at for early round wide
[19:01] Speaker 1: receivers also like George Pickens because it's based on previous
[19:05] Speaker 1: season numbers.
[19:05] Speaker 2: It's not full proof, of course, but you.
[19:08] Speaker 1: Know last year he was really good, like very very good,
[19:10] Speaker 1: and so we need him to play because I do
[19:13] Speaker 1: think that he could be a value if if we
[19:15] Speaker 1: knew for sure everything was gonna be perfect for George Pickens,
[19:19] Speaker 1: and we haven't had this like very small sample, yes,
[19:21] Speaker 1: but like bad results of these players who were holding
[19:24] Speaker 1: out and such, I do think that that Pickens would
[19:29] Speaker 1: be a very easy click right now, there's just some ambiguity.
[19:35] Speaker 4: Okay, this was probably the biggest news that caught us
[19:38] Speaker 4: by surprise. Luca Evans, the reporter for the Broncos Denver Post,
[19:45] Speaker 4: got some posted a few nuggets it's Denver pun for you,
[19:49] Speaker 4: but one that R. J. Harvey suffered a torn labram
[19:54] Speaker 4: in that playoff game against the Patriots and had surgery.
[20:00] Speaker 4: And the other was that JK. Dobbins nearly had a
[20:04] Speaker 4: deal JAK Dommins had to deal with the Jags in
[20:07] Speaker 4: free agency near dunce Or said before Denver resigned him.
[20:11] Speaker 4: So I want your just your take on how this
[20:15] Speaker 4: affects this murky roller coaster field Denver backfield.
[20:21] Speaker 1: So I believe it was Jeff Mueller, and if it's not,
[20:25] Speaker 1: I apologize to whichever.
[20:30] Speaker 4: I'll read. I'll read what Jeff posted. He put r J.
[20:32] Speaker 4: Harvey where the shoulder labor and was repaired versus debrided
[20:35] Speaker 4: it shouldn't negatively impact his receiving ability.
[20:39] Speaker 1: Okay, there was another Twitter doc. I believe that was
[20:44] Speaker 1: mentioning that we're all sitting here talking about Bucky Irving
[20:49] Speaker 1: and the issues that he's had with his shoulder. But
[20:51] Speaker 1: really this could be more concerning from a timeline perspective
[20:55] Speaker 1: than Bucky Irving's timeline, which I think is kind of
[20:58] Speaker 1: interesting and an interesting juxtaposition based on the way that
[21:02] Speaker 1: you know things have gone for Irving. So yeah, I mean, like,
[21:06] Speaker 1: I think this should impact things I've been right when
[21:09] Speaker 1: I start.
[21:09] Speaker 2: Buying more into RJ.
[21:10] Speaker 1: Harvey, this like like right when I start drafting him more,
[21:14] Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I can see this. I just man,
[21:18] Speaker 1: I love ambiguous backfields. Don't get me wrong, I still
[21:22] Speaker 1: think RJ. Harvey has the most upside in that backfield
[21:25] Speaker 1: in general, which is why he should have the highest ADP.
[21:27] Speaker 1: I don't buy the narrative out there from people who
[21:30] Speaker 1: are like JK. Dobbins should be straight up drafted ahead
[21:33] Speaker 1: of RJ. Harvey because What that misses is you're doing
[21:37] Speaker 1: that base off of a median outcome, a median projection, which,
[21:41] Speaker 1: sure you could probably project JK. Dobbins to score more
[21:44] Speaker 1: points than RJ.
[21:44] Speaker 2: Harvey this year. I think that's you know, I think
[21:46] Speaker 2: you'd probably still want to project RJ. Harvey. You can't
[21:49] Speaker 2: just look at last year and say that's going to
[21:51] Speaker 2: happen this year when r J. Harvey was a rookie.
[21:54] Speaker 2: You know, not only that it was the first part
[21:56] Speaker 2: of his.
[21:57] Speaker 1: Rookie season, we didn't really see the full blown hand
[22:00] Speaker 1: him and what it would look like when when JK.
[22:01] Speaker 1: Dobbins was fully fully healthy, and so like, I just
[22:05] Speaker 1: don't think that this is a simple like, oh, just
[22:06] Speaker 1: look at what happened last year, therefore it's gonna happen
[22:08] Speaker 1: this year. So I can understand from a projection standpoint
[22:14] Speaker 1: why you might like Dobbins more. I would disagree still,
[22:17] Speaker 1: but sure if you want to go that route. But
[22:19] Speaker 1: saying that Dobbins should be drafted straight up ahead of
[22:22] Speaker 1: Harvey before this injury stuff, and I even think after
[22:25] Speaker 1: the injury stuff, I'm still gonna have Harvey ahead. It
[22:28] Speaker 1: just misses the ceiling point and misses the point of
[22:30] Speaker 1: like you're in the later round, mid to late rounds
[22:33] Speaker 1: where you should not be worried about floor nearly as much.
[22:36] Speaker 4: JK.
[22:37] Speaker 1: Dobbins is not a pass catcher. He had a four
[22:39] Speaker 1: point two percent target share last year, and he was
[22:41] Speaker 1: really bad per route run. It's not like he had
[22:44] Speaker 1: a two point zero yards per route run rate, but
[22:46] Speaker 1: he just wasn't being used enough. He just was not
[22:48] Speaker 1: good as a pass catcher. And quite frankly, he hasn't
[22:51] Speaker 1: been an outstanding pass catcher in the NFL on a
[22:54] Speaker 1: from an efficiency standpoint and from a volume standpoint.
[22:57] Speaker 2: And so R. J. Harvey was pretty good as a
[22:59] Speaker 2: pass catcher last year at the very least, you know,
[23:01] Speaker 2: not very good as a runner, but good as a
[23:03] Speaker 2: pass catcher. And that's what we should be really aimed
[23:06] Speaker 2: at and focused on when it comes to that point
[23:09] Speaker 2: in the draft and looking for upsides, especially in these
[23:11] Speaker 2: half in full PPR formats. So to me, like Dobbins
[23:15] Speaker 2: is just not someone that I've been clicking very often.
[23:18] Speaker 2: Like I, it's a really especially on in best ball,
[23:21] Speaker 2: it's a really hard time to go after a player
[23:24] Speaker 2: like that. When there's really good quarterbacks still available.
[23:28] Speaker 1: You can make the case for other running backs, you know,
[23:31] Speaker 1: like Rashad White types, you know, like I I'd rather
[23:34] Speaker 1: just straight up take a chance on Rashad White than JK.
[23:36] Speaker 2: Dobbins at this point.
[23:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I just have a hard time with Dobbins.
[23:41] Speaker 1: You know, I had the opposite problem last year's rapping
[23:43] Speaker 1: Dobbins everywhere. But but we now have a year of data.
[23:46] Speaker 2: Of him not being deployed consistently as a pass catcher
[23:49] Speaker 2: and RJ. Harvey being really efficient in that role.
[23:51] Speaker 1: So you know, I think that Harvey's ADP will fall,
[23:53] Speaker 1: and it should fall a little bit, but I'm probably
[23:55] Speaker 1: still gonna have a Harvey ahead of Dobbins from a
[23:58] Speaker 1: rankings perspective.
[24:00] Speaker 4: Okay, what about the news that the Jags are trying
[24:02] Speaker 4: to sign JK. Dobbins. Does that impact your all roads
[24:09] Speaker 4: lead to ba shall Tuton stands.
[24:12] Speaker 1: I think it's a bigger indictment on Chris Rodriguez because
[24:16] Speaker 1: they did go after the early down guy, and it
[24:19] Speaker 1: was Rodriguez, and clearly he was not their first option.
[24:22] Speaker 1: When the whole narrative behind Chris Rodriguez was that he
[24:25] Speaker 1: was a Liam Cohen guy.
[24:26] Speaker 4: Oh I like this man, Yeah, I like it.
[24:29] Speaker 1: If if he's such a Liam Cohen guy, then why
[24:32] Speaker 1: did they not have him as their one a choice?
[24:35] Speaker 1: You know, that's my that's my big problem with I
[24:38] Speaker 1: think base Shall Tuton is still a very good pick
[24:40] Speaker 1: in the fifth round.
[24:41] Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Uh, brand Ayuk weighs in. As you know,
[24:45] Speaker 4: we have a weekly Brandon Ayuk kind of where is he?
[24:50] Speaker 4: We should probably put him on the available because he's
[24:52] Speaker 4: he's available. But we talked about a few weeks ago
[24:56] Speaker 4: about the people that were taking these pictures of Ayuk
[25:02] Speaker 4: and blowing them up and making him look like really overweight. Well,
[25:05] Speaker 4: he weighed himself and he put a picture up the
[25:08] Speaker 4: of his weight. He just wants people to know. Yeah,
[25:10] Speaker 4: he just wants people to know that.
[25:12] Speaker 2: Hey, I'm wait, let me guess his weight. Do you
[25:15] Speaker 2: have his weight?
[25:16] Speaker 4: Do you know his number? I think I remember it.
[25:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna start with a two.
[25:22] Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but it's gonna be it's gonna.
[25:24] Speaker 1: Be the low because he's a he's a thick, he's
[25:26] Speaker 1: a thicker wide when he came out, he's like a
[25:28] Speaker 1: yak guy, right, like he's a.
[25:30] Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say it's I'm gonna say it's two.
[25:32] Speaker 4: Oh nine, you're really really close, you're a pound Okay, yeah,
[25:40] Speaker 4: over it's too o weight Okay, yeah, I believe I can.
[25:43] Speaker 2: I can believe that.
[25:44] Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's that's not shocking to me that
[25:46] Speaker 1: he would be because because he runs the risk if
[25:49] Speaker 1: he's too small in posting that, right that that was
[25:51] Speaker 1: my logic, Like, he's not gonna post like I'm two
[25:53] Speaker 1: thirty because then everyone's like, oh my god, you're so
[25:55] Speaker 1: out of shape. And then if he posts like I'm
[25:57] Speaker 1: one eighty nine, then that just means that he hasn't
[26:00] Speaker 1: been lifting, and he's not.
[26:01] Speaker 4: And he did have sandals on in this and he
[26:03] Speaker 4: posts it's a it's a video, and so he posts
[26:06] Speaker 4: it like you can see his physique in the mirror,
[26:09] Speaker 4: and then he weighs himself, so could be two o seven,
[26:11] Speaker 4: but he looks in good shape. Basically, that's good.
[26:14] Speaker 2: Good for him. Look, he's living his best life right now, Brandon.
[26:16] Speaker 4: Apparently all right, we got more Brian Thomas steam Let's
[26:23] Speaker 4: be reporter saying that he was the MVP of JAG's
[26:28] Speaker 4: practices so far. And I don't know, man, it feels
[26:33] Speaker 4: like there's a flippaning coming with him in Parker, Washington.
[26:36] Speaker 2: I had the thought earlier this week this is this
[26:39] Speaker 2: is the show where I get out my like intrusive
[26:41] Speaker 2: thoughts about for it. I had this thought earlier this
[26:45] Speaker 2: week of like, you know, there's been rumors of them
[26:47] Speaker 2: trading Brian Robinson for like a year now, Like maybe
[26:50] Speaker 2: not a year, but at least like, you know, eight
[26:52] Speaker 2: or eight months or so. Brian Thomas, Brian Thomas, What
[26:56] Speaker 2: did I say, Brian Robinson?
[26:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're still stuck in running back territory.
[26:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, guys. I had the thought that, like, what
[27:03] Speaker 2: if this is just steam for a potential deal, Like
[27:08] Speaker 2: what if this is I don't believe that. I don't
[27:10] Speaker 2: actually believe.
[27:10] Speaker 1: That, guys, but I'm saying, like, what if, you know,
[27:13] Speaker 1: if we want to be a little dramatic about this,
[27:16] Speaker 1: what if this is just like the Jags doing some
[27:18] Speaker 1: favorable pr to get him off the team. I think
[27:21] Speaker 1: he's a good player, though, I mean I liked him
[27:22] Speaker 1: as a prospect. I liked him after year one.
[27:25] Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't like in love.
[27:27] Speaker 1: I remember going back in my rankings, I actually was
[27:29] Speaker 1: like one or two spots lower than the market last
[27:31] Speaker 1: year with Brian Thomas, but I still had him as
[27:33] Speaker 1: like a one two turn guy. My issue with Thomas
[27:38] Speaker 1: is that I really do like Parker Washington. Yeah, and
[27:42] Speaker 1: a lot of the trends do like Parker Washington, most
[27:46] Speaker 1: of them certainly more than they do Brian Thomas. And
[27:50] Speaker 1: so you know, I'm drafting both. I think that you
[27:54] Speaker 1: just throw darts at this Jags. Like, in my opinion,
[27:57] Speaker 1: you get exposure to the drags wide receiver room for
[28:00] Speaker 1: Best Ball this year, and like, if you're you know
[28:03] Speaker 1: a lot of people listening right now are playing both
[28:04] Speaker 1: Best Ball.
[28:05] Speaker 2: And Season long, and then in Season long, you just.
[28:07] Speaker 1: Draft Trevor Lawrence. Like that's your that's that's your exposure
[28:11] Speaker 1: to capture all of that stuff. And maybe that's a
[28:13] Speaker 1: cop out, but I think it's a pretty reasonable approach.
[28:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, I still This was an article written by John Shipley, who's.
[28:22] Speaker 2: Been crushing it and he has crushed it for years
[28:24] Speaker 2: for Jos.
[28:24] Speaker 4: Yeah, people are just now kind of starting to know
[28:28] Speaker 4: who he is, So shout out to John Shipley. But
[28:30] Speaker 4: he was saying that the the MVP, he said, really
[28:34] Speaker 4: all of them are doing great, but the MVP has
[28:36] Speaker 4: been Brian Thomas Junior. That's why I think if there
[28:38] Speaker 4: continues to be steam, they're right now, they're going really close.
[28:42] Speaker 4: Like on DraftKings, I could see there being an eventual slipping.
[28:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, he I think I also
[28:48] Speaker 1: think that Brian Thomas's game is maybe not in DK
[28:51] Speaker 1: as much, but you know, because it's full PPR.
[28:53] Speaker 2: But I do think that his game is pretty conducive
[28:56] Speaker 2: to to best ball as well.
[28:58] Speaker 4: All right, on the flip side, getting some rough practice
[29:04] Speaker 4: reports out of Titan's practice. You can't be shocked by this.
[29:09] Speaker 4: I'm a little shocked. I'm a little shocked. I thought
[29:12] Speaker 4: that it would be a little smoother. However, people have
[29:15] Speaker 4: pointed out that we were doing the same sort of
[29:20] Speaker 4: Monday morning quarterback analysis last year with Drake May.
[29:24] Speaker 2: Caleb Williams too.
[29:25] Speaker 4: Was Williams as well.
[29:26] Speaker 1: I remember sending a tweet in late July or something
[29:28] Speaker 1: that said, like, you guys can all say like I'm
[29:31] Speaker 1: still drafting.
[29:31] Speaker 2: Bears is what I basically said. But yeah, I mean, look,
[29:35] Speaker 2: cam Ward, you.
[29:37] Speaker 1: Gotta this is very much a like if you take
[29:42] Speaker 1: the extremes on the film versus analytics debate, like the
[29:45] Speaker 1: analytics people are gonna say cam Ward is terrible, and
[29:48] Speaker 1: the film people are gonna say, no, no, no, there's definitely traits.
[29:51] Speaker 2: Here, right.
[29:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that if his cost were higher in
[29:57] Speaker 1: Best Ball and Season Long, I would out.
[30:01] Speaker 2: I think I'm more out.
[30:01] Speaker 1: Than in from a Dynasty perspective, But I don't think
[30:04] Speaker 1: that his cost is that agree just to have a
[30:06] Speaker 1: strong opinion on what's going on with cam Warren.
[30:09] Speaker 2: That being said, I don't think the expectation should be
[30:11] Speaker 2: that he's gonna be phenomenal as a quarterback.
[30:13] Speaker 1: Just because simply because his Year one numbers were really
[30:17] Speaker 1: really bad, like like completely objectively his Year one numbers
[30:22] Speaker 1: were bad. Right, you're then using situation coaching, et cetera
[30:28] Speaker 1: as the excuse, which you know, it's funny that I
[30:30] Speaker 1: published the Gray Area Fantasy Football episode today because it's
[30:35] Speaker 1: exactly what I was talking about with Roman dun Ze
[30:36] Speaker 1: last year, right, where you're not dismissing like this is
[30:40] Speaker 1: you don't have to take a stand of like his
[30:42] Speaker 1: metrics are all that matter and you forget context.
[30:45] Speaker 2: We're only gonna look at his metrics. But then you
[30:46] Speaker 2: shouldn't take.
[30:47] Speaker 1: The stance that and say, oh, we just dismiss his
[30:49] Speaker 1: metrics because he's in a bad situation. Because there's been
[30:52] Speaker 1: a lot of rookie quarterbacks in bad situations that have
[30:55] Speaker 1: done well, you know, that have not posted horrific numbers
[30:58] Speaker 1: in year one, and it is generally telling as to.
[31:01] Speaker 2: How good that player's career is going to go.
[31:03] Speaker 1: So that's why I'm looking at this with a very
[31:08] Speaker 1: in a very nuanced way. I'm trying to not overreact
[31:10] Speaker 1: to what we saw from the numbers perspective, but I
[31:12] Speaker 1: do know that they still matter.
[31:14] Speaker 2: You know that it's still some stubs, some substance there.
[31:17] Speaker 1: I like what they've done in adding the pieces that
[31:19] Speaker 1: they've added, Like, I think that the cohesiveness of that
[31:23] Speaker 1: wide receiver room is very much there, and it's better
[31:25] Speaker 1: than what they had, like way better than what they
[31:27] Speaker 1: had last year.
[31:28] Speaker 4: Uh.
[31:29] Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like, I think that there's definitely
[31:31] Speaker 1: risk involved with camp Ward. I think he's so fine
[31:34] Speaker 1: in Best Ball I'm drafting him in Best Ball Dynasty.
[31:36] Speaker 1: I'm a little bit if you're on just because you know,
[31:38] Speaker 1: some people really like him, But I'm not like shocked
[31:41] Speaker 1: by the reports that are going on.
[31:43] Speaker 4: Job Obondi says, oh, careful with your gray area. Talks JJ. Yeah,
[31:49] Speaker 4: talking about last year in the whole gray area. People
[31:51] Speaker 4: don't some people don't understand.
[31:52] Speaker 2: People don't like people don't like the uh yeah.
[31:55] Speaker 4: They don't like the nuance. Yeah, Matt says he's here
[31:58] Speaker 4: for the hot takes, all right, the opposite of hotspros
[32:01] Speaker 4: and Jayden Reid. I just want just to get to
[32:05] Speaker 4: see if you are nervous at all about this.
[32:08] Speaker 1: About Matthew Golden is playing in two wide receiver sets. Yes,
[32:12] Speaker 1: I think that's the expectation. That's why I've been saying
[32:14] Speaker 1: I've been drafting Matthew Golden. You know, I like Jayden
[32:17] Speaker 1: Reid as a potential breakout though, because so the difference
[32:20] Speaker 1: between Jayden Reid and Josh Downs, for instance, is, you know,
[32:24] Speaker 1: if you want to just group them together, because I've
[32:25] Speaker 1: been grouping them together all off season, Josh Downs doesn't
[32:28] Speaker 1: have anyone truly difficult or potentially difficult in his way
[32:33] Speaker 1: in two wide receiver sets this year. Right, it's Nick
[32:35] Speaker 1: Westbrookakine and Alec Pierce is hurt. We talked about that
[32:38] Speaker 1: last week. So Josh Dollens has a lot of opportunity
[32:42] Speaker 1: not in as good of an offense you would argue
[32:44] Speaker 1: because Matt Lafleur consistently has been giving them good offensive
[32:48] Speaker 1: production in Green Bay, so that's a little bit of
[32:50] Speaker 1: a downtake. But yeah, Josh Dowen's in a better spot
[32:52] Speaker 1: than Jaden Reid to play those two wide receiver sets.
[32:55] Speaker 1: My argument with Jayden Reid is the fact that he's
[32:58] Speaker 1: been very, very good per route run through his career
[33:01] Speaker 1: and now he might get more opportunity to play on
[33:03] Speaker 1: the outside because Matthew Golden didn't show.
[33:07] Speaker 2: Us that much his rookie year.
[33:08] Speaker 1: Right, So there's a it's a more climbable depth chart
[33:12] Speaker 1: than what Jaden Reid has experienced in his history.
[33:15] Speaker 2: Right.
[33:16] Speaker 1: I don't think that's a locker. That means that he's
[33:18] Speaker 1: definitely gonna be playing in two wide receiver sets. And
[33:20] Speaker 1: this is why I'm fine in redraft where his cost
[33:23] Speaker 1: is very appetizing. Still, Matthew Golden in Best Ball, my gosh,
[33:26] Speaker 1: you can get him still in the double digit rounds.
[33:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's when.
[33:31] Speaker 1: I think that's a great price for a player like Golden,
[33:34] Speaker 1: who we've seen some guys like not do anything as
[33:36] Speaker 1: rookies and still give you like wide receiver three, wide
[33:39] Speaker 1: receiver two, production.
[33:40] Speaker 2: I just don't think that the ceiling is going to
[33:41] Speaker 2: be there for Matthew Golden.
[33:43] Speaker 1: But that's fine in this kind of environment and in
[33:45] Speaker 1: a best ball environment given his cost.
[33:47] Speaker 4: Right.
[33:48] Speaker 1: So all of those Packers wide receivers, in my opinion,
[33:50] Speaker 1: are draftable right now. This doesn't really deter me. I
[33:54] Speaker 1: hope it lowers Jayden Reid's ADP because if the opposite
[33:57] Speaker 1: report were happening, Jayden Reid would be like a seventh
[33:59] Speaker 1: round pick, pretty comfortable, like a very firm early seventh
[34:03] Speaker 1: like six seven turn type player.
[34:04] Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I thought we were
[34:09] Speaker 2: over this. I thought we were over this. I thought
[34:12] Speaker 2: this was done. Anyway. That's where I'm at with the
[34:14] Speaker 2: Packers wide.
[34:15] Speaker 4: House, all right, uh six seven many CEV eight said
[34:20] Speaker 4: Iguka's going higher than the Dude's and drafts this year,
[34:22] Speaker 4: JJ remains on top.
[34:23] Speaker 2: So that's not what that episode, I know.
[34:25] Speaker 4: I know, Okay, lots of wide receiver talk and we're
[34:33] Speaker 4: not gonna stop.
[34:34] Speaker 2: Now.
[34:34] Speaker 4: It's today's data, today's data.
[34:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a chart directly from this year's draft
[34:42] Speaker 1: guide about early round wide receivers, top eighteen wide receivers
[34:46] Speaker 1: and looking at their previous year first downs per route
[34:49] Speaker 1: run rate and seeing how well they So this is
[34:51] Speaker 1: what's going to be different in this year's guide.
[34:52] Speaker 2: Also is that I'm looking at.
[34:54] Speaker 1: Players who underperform versus expectation and not just overperform. So
[34:58] Speaker 1: I've always done, you know, greater than zero points per
[35:01] Speaker 1: game above expected, greater than two, greater than four. I
[35:04] Speaker 1: did greater than six last year. I'm just doing up
[35:06] Speaker 1: to greater than four this year. But I'm also looking
[35:08] Speaker 1: at how well they do in terms of floor outcomes,
[35:12] Speaker 1: and that matters a lot more, especially in these early
[35:14] Speaker 1: rounds where we're more concerned about the floor outcomes. But
[35:17] Speaker 1: this is a really nice like linear relationship of the
[35:21] Speaker 1: higher the first downs per route run number, the better
[35:24] Speaker 1: the hit rate, especially if the previous year first downs
[35:29] Speaker 1: per route run is above twelve percent.
[35:32] Speaker 2: You know, yes, it's arbitrary.
[35:33] Speaker 1: You can bucket these and bin these in a lot
[35:35] Speaker 1: of different ways, but you have pretty comparable sample sizes
[35:39] Speaker 1: for the most part, aside from that smaller group where
[35:41] Speaker 1: they're less.
[35:42] Speaker 2: Than eight percent. So this says twelve percent or more
[35:45] Speaker 2: of their routes run result in first downs, and you
[35:47] Speaker 2: can see the average difference against ADP expectation for the
[35:50] Speaker 2: guys who have a twelve percent rate or higher is
[35:53] Speaker 2: one point one five, which is fantastic.
[35:55] Speaker 1: It's really really good. The other groups are below zero,
[35:59] Speaker 1: which means they play below expected on average. The group
[36:02] Speaker 1: that has a really high first downs per route run
[36:05] Speaker 1: rate the previous season play well above that expectation.
[36:09] Speaker 2: Now, unfortunately there's.
[36:11] Speaker 1: Only three guys who are above that mark in the
[36:13] Speaker 1: top eighteen this year could be four if people just
[36:16] Speaker 1: liked Terry McLaurin a little bit more. There's another I
[36:18] Speaker 1: think notch in a favorable direction for Terry McLaurin. But
[36:22] Speaker 1: the three wide receivers are Jackson Smith and Jigba Kukuanakua
[36:25] Speaker 1: and aman Ross Saint Brown. So it doesn't really help
[36:27] Speaker 1: you find values per se. But I do think from
[36:31] Speaker 1: an ARSB perspective, it makes should make you feel more
[36:33] Speaker 1: confident that he's at least the wide receiver four in
[36:36] Speaker 1: drafts this year, that that you should like. I don't
[36:38] Speaker 1: think under yeah, I would not be draft just because
[36:41] Speaker 1: of the safety. Like the what we saw from Justin
[36:44] Speaker 1: Jefferson last year was scary enough for me to just say, look,
[36:47] Speaker 1: I think seiling wise, Amin Ros Saint Brown is not
[36:49] Speaker 1: that much different than Justin Jefferson and aman Ross Saint
[36:52] Speaker 1: Brown has the stability. We just have this predictability aspect
[36:56] Speaker 1: with him that we just don't have with Justin Jefferson.
[36:58] Speaker 1: Right now, I would not be drafting Justin Jefferson over
[37:01] Speaker 1: aman Ross Saint Brown. But Amanas Saint Brown I think
[37:04] Speaker 1: is still like I've taken him plenty over Jonathan Taylor
[37:07] Speaker 1: in some of these best Ball drafts, just that if
[37:09] Speaker 1: I wanted to get wide receiver heavy, you know, and
[37:11] Speaker 1: get a different kind of build. So I think aarsp's
[37:13] Speaker 1: in a really good spot and this is just one
[37:15] Speaker 1: of those metrics that helped show that.
[37:17] Speaker 4: All right, let's get on to the main event, the
[37:19] Speaker 4: late round, main event. All right, jjy, we're talking alarming
[37:26] Speaker 4: stats from twenty twenty five, starting with DJ Moore.
[37:31] Speaker 1: Everything from DJ Moore's twenty twenty five is alarming, Like realistically,
[37:35] Speaker 1: the one thing that's not and that has nothing to
[37:37] Speaker 1: do with twenty twenty five is that he's in a
[37:39] Speaker 1: new environment and he could thrive in that environment for sure.
[37:42] Speaker 1: I've talked about this before on the show, like he's
[37:43] Speaker 1: a you know, a guy who's better when the play
[37:46] Speaker 1: breaks down, and that's exactly what the Buffalo offense kind
[37:48] Speaker 1: of thrives in because of Josh Allen being their quarterback.
[37:51] Speaker 1: But if you just look at the numbers all this
[37:54] Speaker 1: previous season, numbers are so horrifically frightening. Okay, the one
[37:58] Speaker 1: that I'm calling out here is is one point two
[38:00] Speaker 1: to two yards per out run rate among top forty
[38:03] Speaker 1: wide receivers by ADP since twenty fourteen. With a yard
[38:06] Speaker 1: per out run rate below one point five, which is
[38:09] Speaker 1: significantly higher than where DJ Moore is at. They underperformed
[38:13] Speaker 1: versus expected I realized that copying and paste underperformed twice
[38:17] Speaker 1: here and it's spelled incorrectly, So that's cool. Uh, But
[38:20] Speaker 1: this is why we do the show the way that
[38:21] Speaker 1: we do, right.
[38:23] Speaker 4: But they all get it.
[38:24] Speaker 2: Okay, Kitchen, we'll fix it. They underperform versus expectation.
[38:28] Speaker 1: The guys who are below a one point five yards
[38:30] Speaker 1: per out run rate drafted as top forty wide receivers
[38:33] Speaker 1: by one point two PPR points per game. The guys
[38:36] Speaker 1: who were below that were in the top thirty and
[38:40] Speaker 1: below that mark, so again, top forty, you're getting some
[38:43] Speaker 1: like questionable wide receiver profiles in general, and maybe sometimes
[38:47] Speaker 1: they don't have very good previous season numbers, but the
[38:50] Speaker 1: market is boosting them into the top forty, and they're
[38:53] Speaker 1: doing that for a reason.
[38:54] Speaker 2: But then if you're in the top thirty, if you're in.
[38:56] Speaker 1: The top twenty, et cetera, et cetera, these numbers become
[38:59] Speaker 1: even more import and because the competition within that range
[39:02] Speaker 1: is greater. Right, And so when you look at top
[39:05] Speaker 1: thirty wide receivers by ADP and guys who are below
[39:08] Speaker 1: that one point five yards per hour run mark, they
[39:11] Speaker 1: underperform versus expectation on average by two point eight PPR
[39:16] Speaker 1: points per game, which is horrifically bad.
[39:19] Speaker 2: It's very very bad.
[39:21] Speaker 1: We're talking like, if DJ Moore is expected to score
[39:23] Speaker 1: thirteen PPR points per game, he's gonna score ten, right,
[39:26] Speaker 1: based on what that's saying. So it's just another reason
[39:30] Speaker 1: why I'm just nervous about DJ Moore. You know, I
[39:32] Speaker 1: think situation can only take him so far. I he's
[39:36] Speaker 1: just a he's a very very scary pick.
[39:38] Speaker 4: Right now. Okay, let's go to someone who had a
[39:42] Speaker 4: really good year last year and his ADP is pretty
[39:45] Speaker 4: high this year. Matthew Stafford.
[39:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to throw this one in there because
[39:49] Speaker 1: you're gonna see that Matthew Stafford at a seventeen point
[39:52] Speaker 1: seven percent touchdown rate, and you're gonna say to yourself, well,
[39:55] Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing. Well it is when you
[39:58] Speaker 1: look at it versus expectation the follow up year. There's
[40:01] Speaker 1: been sixteen quarterbacks since twenty fourteen with a with a
[40:04] Speaker 1: touchdown rate in the previous season above seven percent.
[40:07] Speaker 2: Those guys spelled underperformed wrong again.
[40:09] Speaker 4: Huh no, spelled expectation wrong. It's all right, We're good.
[40:12] Speaker 1: Look, I've had a rough one in the last week.
[40:16] Speaker 1: They've underperformed for his expectation by one point seven points
[40:18] Speaker 1: per game. There's only been four of them in the
[40:21] Speaker 1: previous season who had less than two points per game
[40:24] Speaker 1: via rushing. Because we know Matthew Stafford's not gonna do
[40:26] Speaker 1: anything on the ground, right, he had like point oh
[40:29] Speaker 1: five or something points per game rushing. Two of those
[40:31] Speaker 1: four played five or more points per game below expected. Now,
[40:36] Speaker 1: Stafford's ADP, because the market has gotten smarter, is not
[40:40] Speaker 1: as high as it could have been based on what
[40:42] Speaker 1: we've seen historically from.
[40:43] Speaker 2: These types of players.
[40:44] Speaker 1: But with that being said, I do think that Stafford's
[40:46] Speaker 1: one of the big calls, because in best Ball it's
[40:48] Speaker 1: a little bit different, like he's not like I think
[40:50] Speaker 1: his his his ADP is fine and not like it's
[40:52] Speaker 1: whatever and you're stacking. It's just a different environment. But
[40:55] Speaker 1: I would almost guarantee you that when you do your
[40:57] Speaker 1: home league drafts and your office drafts and stuff like that,
[41:00] Speaker 1: this this August, Stafford's gonna be a fringe top ten guy,
[41:03] Speaker 1: if not a top ten guy.
[41:05] Speaker 2: And that's when you know that you should probably be
[41:07] Speaker 2: avoiding him.
[41:09] Speaker 4: All right. Next we have Kyle Pitts.
[41:13] Speaker 1: So Kyle Pitts, I feel like we remember I mean,
[41:16] Speaker 1: I certainly remember him for his playoff performance last year
[41:19] Speaker 1: because it got me into the final of the of
[41:21] Speaker 1: the DK Final on the Vedio, right, So Kyle Pitts
[41:24] Speaker 1: forever in my heart. But but we can't deny that
[41:28] Speaker 1: Drake London being sidelined was very helpful to Kyle Pitts's
[41:32] Speaker 1: overall olcom He had he had nine point six PPR
[41:36] Speaker 1: points per game before Drake London's injury, which is nothing
[41:38] Speaker 1: to write home. You can do that via streaming right
[41:40] Speaker 1: during that split, twenty one percent target share good not fantastic,
[41:44] Speaker 1: not like amazing nineteen percent targets per out run rate, which.
[41:47] Speaker 2: Is again just fine.
[41:49] Speaker 1: And then from week twelve on when Drake London was out,
[41:52] Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts averaged a twenty seven percent target share, He
[41:55] Speaker 1: had a twenty four percent targets per ol run rate
[41:57] Speaker 1: and sixteen point three PPR points per game. One of
[41:59] Speaker 1: those those was forty five points, which definitely you know,
[42:02] Speaker 1: exkews us a little bit, but he was way way
[42:04] Speaker 1: better without Drake London than with Drake London. I think
[42:06] Speaker 1: we got to keep that in mind as we're drafting
[42:09] Speaker 1: him this year.
[42:10] Speaker 4: All right, on to Kenneth Walker.
[42:13] Speaker 1: So Kenneth Walker had had a spike two years ago
[42:17] Speaker 1: in receiving work, but every other year of his career
[42:20] Speaker 1: he's been sort of a subpar receiver from a volume perspective, right,
[42:24] Speaker 1: And so last year he had three and a half
[42:27] Speaker 1: receiving points per game. And if you look at top
[42:30] Speaker 1: eighteen running backs historically who have scored between zero and
[42:34] Speaker 1: four PPR points per game in the previous season four
[42:37] Speaker 1: to eight eight plus, this is in the guide last year,
[42:39] Speaker 1: but it's in the guide again this year. The guys
[42:41] Speaker 1: who are in the zero to four range have underperformed
[42:43] Speaker 1: versus expectation by far at the highest rate, and they
[42:46] Speaker 1: also have shown by far the lowest ceiling. Only six
[42:50] Speaker 1: percent of them have outperformed ADP expectation by four more
[42:54] Speaker 1: points per game the following year.
[42:56] Speaker 4: Right.
[42:57] Speaker 1: The crazy thing is is that in the next table
[42:59] Speaker 1: that you guys can see here, if you take out
[43:01] Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and Derek Henry from this data set, which
[43:05] Speaker 1: there's six of these instances where those guys have been
[43:08] Speaker 1: part of the data set, then in the zero to
[43:10] Speaker 1: four group, all of a sudden you realize, oh, this
[43:13] Speaker 1: is actually just weighed towards Dereck Henry and Jonathan Taylor,
[43:16] Speaker 1: two of the most prolific rushers that we've seen in
[43:18] Speaker 1: the NFL in this recent era. Right, So basically, Kenneth Walker,
[43:22] Speaker 1: in my opinion, I've cooled off on him a little
[43:25] Speaker 1: bit over the last month because I do think there's
[43:28] Speaker 1: a chance that they use like an Amari de Mercado
[43:29] Speaker 1: and I'm at Johnson whomever to play a little bit
[43:33] Speaker 1: of a receiving role. And there's reason for that, because
[43:35] Speaker 1: they like he's gonna get a ton of work on
[43:37] Speaker 1: the ground, and I just don't know, like it might
[43:39] Speaker 1: be a better thing for real football than it is
[43:41] Speaker 1: fantasy football.
[43:42] Speaker 4: You also continue to be cautious with this next player,
[43:45] Speaker 4: Michael Wilson.
[43:46] Speaker 2: I don't get it, man, I just I don't. I don't.
[43:49] Speaker 2: I don't get Michael Wilson.
[43:50] Speaker 1: I mean, he could, he could certainly just be incredibly
[43:53] Speaker 1: good and just ruin me and make me look like
[43:54] Speaker 1: an idiot. But in a split, there's been three games.
[43:58] Speaker 1: There were three games last year with ja Kobe Bursett
[44:01] Speaker 1: and with Marvin Harrison Junior running at least eighty percent
[44:05] Speaker 1: of the team's routes. In those three games, Michael Wilson
[44:08] Speaker 1: averaged seven point eight PPR points per game. He scored seven,
[44:12] Speaker 1: nine point one and seven point four PPR points in
[44:16] Speaker 1: those three games. He had a fourteen percent target share
[44:19] Speaker 1: in those three games. That is not usable fantasy production.
[44:23] Speaker 1: It's just that when Marvin Harrison Junior was sidelined or
[44:26] Speaker 1: when he wasn't playing a ton because of the appendicitis stuff,
[44:29] Speaker 1: and him coming out here that like foot I think
[44:31] Speaker 1: last year, that's when Michael Wilson thrived. So Marvin Harrison
[44:34] Speaker 1: Junior is seemingly back and healthy, and that scares me
[44:38] Speaker 1: about what we could see with Michael Wilson. The difference
[44:41] Speaker 1: between Michael Wilson and Parker Washington, in my opinion, is
[44:44] Speaker 1: that the injury for Marvin Harrison Junior allowed Michael Wilson
[44:48] Speaker 1: to see a lot of volume, but he wasn't that
[44:50] Speaker 1: efficient with that volume. Like his yards broout run was
[44:53] Speaker 1: one point five to nine last year. Parker Washington, when
[44:57] Speaker 1: Travis Hunter got hurt, got more opportunity. But I think
[45:00] Speaker 1: it showed the Jags that he's actually really good because
[45:03] Speaker 1: he was incredibly efficient while playing alongside Brian Thomas and
[45:05] Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. And so I think that's the main difference
[45:08] Speaker 1: between Parker Washington and Michael Wilson, aside from the environment.
[45:12] Speaker 2: Quarter in the court.
[45:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's the thing with Michael Wilson, Like they
[45:16] Speaker 1: could be starting Carson Beck at the end of the year.
[45:18] Speaker 4: Very year, they could be an anemic offense potentially at
[45:21] Speaker 4: the back.
[45:21] Speaker 1: So I think that this split should make you feel
[45:24] Speaker 1: less confident about Michael Wilson next year.
[45:28] Speaker 4: Let's get onto this guy makes me a little bit nervous.
[45:31] Speaker 4: Javonte Williams a cover boy for Today.
[45:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, so Javonte Williams, Like, I'm going through all of
[45:36] Speaker 1: the early round stuff, you know, for these running backs
[45:39] Speaker 1: and looking at trends, and there's one trend where he
[45:41] Speaker 1: looks okay, and you guys can see that in.
[45:42] Speaker 2: The draft guide.
[45:43] Speaker 1: But a lot of them, ninety percent of them, it's like,
[45:46] Speaker 1: because it's so receiving focused, he just was not a
[45:49] Speaker 1: good receiver. Last year he had point four yards per
[45:53] Speaker 1: route run. Seventeen running backs ranked outside the top twelve,
[45:56] Speaker 1: but through RB thirty six had less than a point
[46:00] Speaker 1: six yards per route run rates since twenty fourteen with
[46:02] Speaker 1: a minimum of fifty routes run. So you're looking at
[46:05] Speaker 1: RB thirteen through thirty six, there's been seventeen guys who
[46:08] Speaker 1: had a previous season yards per out run below point
[46:11] Speaker 1: six with at least fifty routes run. Only one of
[46:14] Speaker 1: them outperform expectation by two or more PPR points per game.
[46:18] Speaker 1: The average underperformed by one and a half PPR points
[46:21] Speaker 1: per game. Now, I think that, like, if we're being
[46:25] Speaker 1: completely honest about Gavonte Williams, and you could maybe argue
[46:28] Speaker 1: David Montgomery as well with this argument, But if you're
[46:31] Speaker 1: being completely objective, people are drafting both of those players
[46:36] Speaker 1: simply because they're projected to see a lot of volume.
[46:39] Speaker 1: I don't think they're drafting them because they're unbelievable talents
[46:42] Speaker 1: of the position. And historically sometimes it works out, but
[46:46] Speaker 1: more often than not, it doesn't work out to the
[46:48] Speaker 1: degree in which you wanted to work out.
[46:50] Speaker 2: I think that Williams is a safe bet to be
[46:53] Speaker 2: to match ADP.
[46:55] Speaker 1: I just don't think he's an easy bet to say
[46:57] Speaker 1: he's going to be a top ten running back in
[46:59] Speaker 1: fantasy football.
[47:00] Speaker 2: And in that range, there's a lot of good wide receivers.
[47:03] Speaker 2: There are some other really good high end running backs,
[47:05] Speaker 2: you know, some of the year two guys, and Josh Jacobs,
[47:09] Speaker 2: now who is right? Josh Jacobs has obviously like that.
[47:12] Speaker 1: I've had a harder time clicking Javonte Williams because of that,
[47:15] Speaker 1: even though I fully understand, you know, why he's being
[47:18] Speaker 1: drafted where he is, and I understand that there is
[47:20] Speaker 1: at least a really comfortable floor in drafting Williams.
[47:23] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just ready for Jayden Blue to come in
[47:27] Speaker 4: and just a year after we were all in, just
[47:30] Speaker 4: ruin all our Javonte Williams shares.
[47:33] Speaker 1: I think that there's a possibility that, like you if
[47:35] Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, like where could this go south
[47:37] Speaker 1: for Jamonte Williams, Like how could he not, you know,
[47:40] Speaker 1: live up to expectation. And the way that he wouldn't
[47:44] Speaker 1: is that they have just a guy like Jayden Blue
[47:47] Speaker 1: who's able to take on some receiving work and just
[47:49] Speaker 1: be like, get enough of that work that it hurts
[47:52] Speaker 1: Javonte Williams that much, you know, like if Jayden Blue
[47:55] Speaker 1: is a seven percent target chair player, that ruins Javonte.
[47:58] Speaker 4: Williams, Like I said, I just can't can't wait for it.
[48:03] Speaker 4: I probably should just just draft some insurance shares of
[48:06] Speaker 4: Jaden Blue just in case he does go off and
[48:09] Speaker 4: be like, Okay, we're there, all right. Last, but not
[48:12] Speaker 4: least Ladd McConkie.
[48:15] Speaker 1: So I like Lad McConkie this year, but going through
[48:21] Speaker 1: his numbers last year, looking at trends all that it's
[48:25] Speaker 1: not the cleanest, like obvious, most obvious pick in the world.
[48:28] Speaker 1: You know, there's there's some things, especially his first downs
[48:31] Speaker 1: per U run rate, which was only six point two
[48:33] Speaker 1: percent last year, that is very alarming, and we're looking
[48:36] Speaker 1: at alarming stats on today's show. There's been twenty eight
[48:39] Speaker 1: top thirty six wide receivers who had three hundred or
[48:41] Speaker 1: more routes in their previous season with a sub seven
[48:45] Speaker 1: percent first downs per run un per first downs per
[48:48] Speaker 1: rout run rate. Since twenty fourteen, they underperformed versus expectation
[48:51] Speaker 1: on average by one point six points per game. No
[48:55] Speaker 1: player outperformed by more than two point two points per game.
[48:58] Speaker 1: I think that was Deebo Samuel in a year where
[49:01] Speaker 1: he was getting work done via his legs, right, like
[49:03] Speaker 1: he was getting rushing work done, and so like, it
[49:07] Speaker 1: does scare me a little bit about Lad mcconky, about
[49:10] Speaker 1: how how not great his twenty twenty five was, and
[49:14] Speaker 1: I'm trying to ground myself within that context and not
[49:17] Speaker 1: get too carried away with where I'm ranking McConkey here
[49:21] Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. Like, I think that there's a
[49:25] Speaker 1: very real chance by the time August hits that the
[49:29] Speaker 1: market is boosting him and boosting him and boosting him
[49:32] Speaker 1: to like, you know, we see this every year with
[49:35] Speaker 1: certain players, Like I think it could happen Luther Burden too,
[49:38] Speaker 1: which scares me because.
[49:39] Speaker 2: I really really love Luthor Burden, but it could.
[49:42] Speaker 1: You know, you got to stay grounded and not get
[49:45] Speaker 1: too carried away with these like situations and players. McConkie
[49:48] Speaker 1: was a lot easier to draft when it was like,
[49:50] Speaker 1: you know a lot of people just like not caring
[49:52] Speaker 1: about him until like the mid late fourth round. But
[49:55] Speaker 1: it's it's he's now kind of at the top of
[49:58] Speaker 1: that tier, and it makes it a little bit more
[49:59] Speaker 1: a alarming and scarier because of what he did last season.
[50:04] Speaker 4: Okay, does the the QJ stuff. It's it's making me
[50:07] Speaker 4: a little bit nervous.
[50:08] Speaker 1: It's making me a little bit nervous too, because I
[50:09] Speaker 1: think QJ. Here's the thing with QJ. He's not a
[50:13] Speaker 1: fantastic all around wide receiver, but when he came out
[50:16] Speaker 1: and what he can do in the NFL is yards
[50:17] Speaker 1: after the catch, and I think that they're gonna they're
[50:20] Speaker 1: gonna deploy him in a way where he's gonna be
[50:22] Speaker 1: able to maximize that skill set and potentially thrive and
[50:26] Speaker 1: like be a really good pick himself. And then Trey
[50:28] Speaker 1: Harris is sitting back there, yeah, as a you know
[50:31] Speaker 1: what if he gets a little bit more work. So like,
[50:34] Speaker 1: I don't like I think the Lad McConkie, the ceiling
[50:37] Speaker 1: appeal is certainly there, but I do also think that
[50:40] Speaker 1: there's a ceiling appeal for a lot of wide receivers
[50:42] Speaker 1: in that range, and the floor is certainly a little
[50:45] Speaker 1: bit scary form.
[50:45] Speaker 2: A conky two.
[50:48] Speaker 4: Uh speaking, Just going back to Javonte Williams, you just
[50:51] Speaker 4: had some breaking news that Zamir White is working out
[50:55] Speaker 4: for the Cowboys.
[50:56] Speaker 1: Well that makes me like Gavonte Williams even more than
[51:00] Speaker 1: Forget everything I just said about Javonte Williams. If zam
[51:04] Speaker 1: Or White is his competition, then we're good to go.
[51:05] Speaker 4: Baby, You're backed all in. Uh. Keith the Chief made
[51:09] Speaker 4: fun of my pronunciation of Jaden Blue, I said, Jaydawn,
[51:13] Speaker 4: it's one of those things where you haven't said the
[51:14] Speaker 4: name out loud in a while. No, Hey, we'll get
[51:18] Speaker 4: it back. We'll get it back. Let's let's move on.
[51:21] Speaker 2: Though.
[51:21] Speaker 4: This is a good segment. You do need to get
[51:24] Speaker 4: you need to be alarmed.
[51:26] Speaker 2: At these stats.
[51:27] Speaker 4: But that doesn't that doesn't mean that you're like not
[51:30] Speaker 4: in on some of these players or see like the
[51:32] Speaker 4: upsides like you mentioned with some of them.
[51:34] Speaker 1: I'm definitely fading and or at least like like you know,
[51:36] Speaker 1: like I'm not drafting much Michael Wilson. I'm not drafting
[51:39] Speaker 1: a ton of Javonte Williams right now, just based on
[51:41] Speaker 1: what we just said. Uh, I like Michael Williams is
[51:44] Speaker 1: more of a fade than like Javonte is for me,
[51:46] Speaker 1: Like Stafford in a regular season long league, I'm not
[51:48] Speaker 1: going to be going after I do win stacks, you know,
[51:50] Speaker 1: if I get Pooka or Davante Adams or something so like,
[51:53] Speaker 1: I would say that the majority of these players, I'm
[51:55] Speaker 1: more out than in. But there are some players like
[51:58] Speaker 1: Mconkee for instance, where I'm still probably more in and
[52:02] Speaker 1: out despite what we saw from his numbers last year.
[52:05] Speaker 4: All right, let's wrap this up again. If you haven't already,
[52:14] Speaker 4: please subscribe to the Late Round channel and we value
[52:18] Speaker 4: your feedback, So any comments after this video is posted,
[52:22] Speaker 4: any comments on Spotify, we appreciate those. Another Banger newsletter
[52:27] Speaker 4: for Brandancadoula and is happening this week. We also have
[52:33] Speaker 4: the regular Friday newsletters, more free content than we've ever
[52:36] Speaker 4: had before. We got the new memberships on the site.
[52:39] Speaker 4: All that including the Draft Guide pre order which comes
[52:42] Speaker 4: out July tenth. All that can be found on Lateround
[52:46] Speaker 4: dot com. Our brand new website.
[52:48] Speaker 2: JJ Yes, check it out lateround dot com. We're proud
[52:51] Speaker 2: of it.
[52:52] Speaker 1: Still kind of going through some stuff, like we said,
[52:55] Speaker 1: but expect like the schedule and everything to be back
[52:58] Speaker 1: to normal, like once the Draft guide is out. It's
[53:00] Speaker 1: just a you know, fortunately, this is all happening when
[53:03] Speaker 1: it's not really football season. There's not that much going on,
[53:07] Speaker 1: and you know, like I said, there's just been some
[53:08] Speaker 1: stuff going on off the field for me that that
[53:12] Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, handling and uh, there's there's stuff,
[53:16] Speaker 1: you know. The draft guys just a lot of work.
[53:17] Speaker 1: So so bear with me during the next couple of weeks.
[53:21] Speaker 4: You have tons of grace from us, and just know
[53:26] Speaker 4: that when this thing comes out, people will be appreciative
[53:31] Speaker 4: of it and it's it's it should be a really
[53:35] Speaker 4: good tool for your drafts this year. I appreciate everyone
[53:39] Speaker 4: for tune in, appreciate draftings from sponsorship again. Promo code
[53:42] Speaker 4: Late Round if you want to do the dog the
[53:45] Speaker 4: Draft one get one promotion there. The link is also
[53:48] Speaker 4: in the description. So we appreciate you all, We love
[53:52] Speaker 4: you all, and we'll see you next time here on
[53:53] Speaker 4: the Late Round Fantasy Football Show. No and n Bill

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.