# Becoming a Best Ball Bro: Is Playoff Correlation Overrated?

An episode of [The Late-Round Fantasy Football Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1224965828), 29 Jul 2026, 1 h 02 min.

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JJ and Rich break down some of the biggest recent average draft position risers and fallers before JJ is joined by Establish the Run's Adam Levitan. The two discuss optimal draft strategy for 2026, Adam's favorite late-round targets, the importance of Week 17 correlation, and so much more. ---------- Download the DraftKings Daily Fantasy app and sign up with promo code LATEROUND. Enter a lineup in the $20 million Best Ball contest for $25 and get a bonus ticket for a second entry — two shots at the title. Draft One, Get One, only on DraftKings. The Crown Is Yours. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Help is available for problem gambling. Call (888) 789-7777 or visit ccpg.org (CT). 18+ in most eligible states, but age varies by jurisdiction. Eligibility restrictions apply. Void where prohibited. 1 per customer. Must enter a lineup into the NFL Best Ball $20M Headliner Contest. $25 entry fee. Bonus issued as 1 ticket to NFL Best Ball $20M Headliner Contest. Ticket reward is site credit valid for use only on NFL Best Ball $20M Headliner Contest. Ticket reward is single-use and expires at contest lock on 9/9/26. See terms at https://www.draftkings.com/promotions. Ends 9/9/26 at contest lock. Sponsored by DraftKings. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Rich did you hear the big news out of the
[0:03] Speaker 1: sports world.
[0:04] Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
[0:05] Speaker 3: We've had such a strong rivalry the Knicks have with
[0:08] Speaker 3: the Sixers over the last couple of years, and having
[0:10] Speaker 3: to face now one of the greatest basketball players of
[0:14] Speaker 3: all time in Lebron James on top of that is
[0:16] Speaker 3: just no, no, no.
[0:17] Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no. We're not talking about Lebron James here.
[0:19] Speaker 4: We're talking about design, stribbling, running with the ones. I'm
[0:22] Speaker 4: JJ and over the last couple of years, I've been
[0:24] Speaker 4: doing everything I can to be a best ball bro.
[0:27] Speaker 1: And last season things finally fell into place. I got
[0:30] Speaker 1: fortieth in.
[0:31] Speaker 4: The DraftKings MILLI Contest, taking home twenty thousand dollars. Maybe
[0:35] Speaker 4: I became a best ball bro, but I'm still looking
[0:38] Speaker 4: to learn more about this game and i still want others.
[0:41] Speaker 1: To come on this ride with me.
[0:43] Speaker 4: So even if you consider me a best ball bro,
[0:45] Speaker 4: this could be your year. This could be the year
[0:48] Speaker 4: that you officially become a best ball bro.
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[1:47] Speaker 4: Welcome into another episode of becoming a Best Ball bro.
[1:50] Speaker 4: I'm Jaja Zacharieson, joined as always by my Jets loving
[1:55] Speaker 4: co host Rich Ryan Rich.
[1:57] Speaker 1: What's going on, Buddy?
[1:57] Speaker 3: It's the preseason, buddy, Hope Spring eternal. Nothing bad can
[2:02] Speaker 3: happen from here, right, j Jay?
[2:04] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, we were, We were.
[2:07] Speaker 4: We had some some cold open ideas and the one
[2:10] Speaker 4: that that you were going to throw out there was
[2:12] Speaker 4: about Gino Smith taking that punch to the I forgot
[2:15] Speaker 4: all about that that that even happened.
[2:17] Speaker 3: That was the one and only time that I had
[2:18] Speaker 3: an office job in my life, and it was the
[2:20] Speaker 3: start of my second year in that job.
[2:22] Speaker 2: So everybody knew me.
[2:23] Speaker 3: I'm on the West Coast, I'm the Jets guy, I'm
[2:25] Speaker 3: from New Jersey, and so when it happens, every guy
[2:27] Speaker 3: in the office, maybe for like a thirty minute period,
[2:30] Speaker 3: would comb over and.
[2:31] Speaker 2: Let me know.
[2:31] Speaker 3: In case, in case there was a world where I
[2:33] Speaker 3: did not know that Gino Smith had broken his jaw
[2:36] Speaker 3: via a practice squad player, that yes, Gino Smith would
[2:38] Speaker 3: be missing a considerable part of the season with a
[2:41] Speaker 3: broken jaw.
[2:42] Speaker 1: Was what was the backstory as to why he punched him?
[2:45] Speaker 3: It was just a debt. It was a six hundred
[2:47] Speaker 3: dollars debt with I K and Kompally. I. I don't
[2:49] Speaker 3: know if it was charity related. I think someone. I
[2:53] Speaker 3: think Gino had dedicated his time or vice versa to
[2:55] Speaker 3: like a charity event like a camp that summer, and
[3:00] Speaker 3: some money was owed and Gino was being quite arrogant
[3:02] Speaker 3: about it, and I K income Polly did not enjoy
[3:06] Speaker 3: that ericant and landed the one two punch on on
[3:09] Speaker 3: our guy, Gina.
[3:10] Speaker 1: Crazy So Crazy.
[3:12] Speaker 4: Last week we talked about just some exposure stuff in
[3:15] Speaker 4: general on the show with my portfolio, but we haven't
[3:19] Speaker 4: done a lot of like risers and followers, ADP stuff
[3:22] Speaker 4: in a while. So we're going to go through some
[3:25] Speaker 4: big rises and followers since it's right before camp starts
[3:27] Speaker 4: and we're about to see some crazy things happen. So
[3:30] Speaker 4: we have some names and such that have been rising
[3:33] Speaker 4: basically since the end of June into July.
[3:35] Speaker 1: You know, I went on.
[3:36] Speaker 4: Vacation, we had that, like that recap type episode, and
[3:39] Speaker 4: then you know, last week, like I said, we didn't
[3:41] Speaker 4: go over this kind of thing. So we'll just go
[3:43] Speaker 4: through some players and I'll you know, throw some takes
[3:46] Speaker 4: out and give you some some like how I feel
[3:48] Speaker 4: about it, But why don't you get things offered?
[3:50] Speaker 1: Let's talk about some risers first.
[3:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, let's start about Let's start with two running backs
[3:53] Speaker 3: who I'm just personally blaming you for these rises, especially
[3:56] Speaker 3: the second one. One is Jonathan Brook's coming off another injury.
[4:01] Speaker 3: The other is Jordan Mason. Two different paths I think
[4:04] Speaker 3: to having success in best Ball, but people are liking
[4:07] Speaker 3: their profiles entering the summer.
[4:09] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I've had this take for a
[4:11] Speaker 4: minute now that I think that that Jonathan Brooks could
[4:14] Speaker 4: just jump Cuba Hubbard and ADP. Eventually we're already seeing
[4:18] Speaker 4: Cuba falling, which you know, spoiler alert, that's one of
[4:22] Speaker 4: the followers, so I'll just talk about it here. But
[4:24] Speaker 4: Cuba falling and Jonathan Brook's rising, you know, it's the
[4:28] Speaker 4: hot new commodity. I you know, look and then in
[4:31] Speaker 4: the draft guide, I have Jonathan Brooks as a target
[4:33] Speaker 4: because what I do for the targets and avoids is
[4:35] Speaker 4: that I'm looking at my rankings, my tiers, and I'm
[4:38] Speaker 4: seeing in my overall where I have them overall as well,
[4:41] Speaker 4: and I'm looking at where they get drafted on the
[4:43] Speaker 4: major platforms. And I think that this is a case
[4:46] Speaker 4: where Best Ball or like some of the more prestigious,
[4:50] Speaker 4: like you know, high stakes platforms, you're gonna you're gonna
[4:53] Speaker 4: find that Jonathan Brooks goes higher on those sites versus
[4:57] Speaker 4: like a Yahoo or in ESPN. That being said, I
[5:01] Speaker 4: do you know, there's usually a couple of week lags,
[5:03] Speaker 4: so I think that we're going to start to see
[5:05] Speaker 4: some sort of change there. Now I look at my portfolio,
[5:08] Speaker 4: I'm at about eleven twelve percent Jonathan Brooks right now,
[5:11] Speaker 4: so I'm a head of market. I do think that
[5:12] Speaker 4: there's gonna become a point in time where I'm not.
[5:15] Speaker 4: I don't want to be stupid about it, you know,
[5:18] Speaker 4: like I think that Cuba. You know, I faded him
[5:21] Speaker 4: last year. You know, I was really into Rico Dowdell
[5:23] Speaker 4: last year. But that gap in ADP was significantly different.
[5:27] Speaker 4: You had a fifth to sixth round running back in
[5:29] Speaker 4: Cuba often fifth round, and then you had a literal
[5:33] Speaker 4: like late round Darth throw for a while and like
[5:35] Speaker 4: the fourteenth fifteenth round in ric o'dowdele. But with this
[5:38] Speaker 4: you're looking at a ninth round Jonathan Brooks and a
[5:40] Speaker 4: seventh to eighth round now Cuba Hubbard. And to me,
[5:43] Speaker 4: you know, I think that's like fair, you know, like
[5:45] Speaker 4: I have Cuba like two spots in overall rank ahead
[5:49] Speaker 4: of Jonathan Brooks.
[5:50] Speaker 1: So, like I said, I think if this flips.
[5:53] Speaker 4: I don't know if we're thinking rationally enough about that,
[5:56] Speaker 4: just given the fact that, like the stable piece is
[5:58] Speaker 4: very clearly Cuba Hubbard and in this backfield like very clearly.
[6:02] Speaker 1: I liked Brooks as a prospect quite a bit.
[6:05] Speaker 4: I think he's a good pass catcher, but I like
[6:07] Speaker 4: him more as a clear Dart RB three to four
[6:11] Speaker 4: type player as opposed to one where now all of
[6:14] Speaker 4: a sudden, you're relying on him as your RB two.
[6:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want the risk profile of the running
[6:18] Speaker 3: backs you've taken before Jonathan Brooks to be a misfit
[6:21] Speaker 3: with taking him right, you would want some stability before
[6:25] Speaker 3: throwing that dart.
[6:26] Speaker 1: If you can have it, I should.
[6:27] Speaker 4: I do want to add that, just so if people
[6:29] Speaker 4: are curious. I'm at about three percent Chuba Hubbard in
[6:31] Speaker 4: the Millie right now.
[6:32] Speaker 3: And the other thing I want to say, and this
[6:33] Speaker 3: goes back to your Rico Dube'll take last year, is
[6:35] Speaker 3: that when you do have conviction in these ambiguous situations,
[6:39] Speaker 3: or you do want to press an edge, you might
[6:41] Speaker 3: as well press it fully by just taking the other
[6:43] Speaker 3: guy overweight, right, because instead of just fading and having
[6:48] Speaker 3: a take, Well, if you fade that person and you're correct,
[6:51] Speaker 3: the correlative result is going to be that the other
[6:53] Speaker 3: guy does have success. So there are spots like this
[6:56] Speaker 3: when you just have a take and you have conviction. Yeah,
[6:58] Speaker 3: don't go overboard with it, don't go like fifteen percent
[7:01] Speaker 3: to zero, but it's okay to push that edge and
[7:04] Speaker 3: you know, try to put a take in to accent
[7:06] Speaker 3: like that.
[7:07] Speaker 4: Well, especially when cost is involved, like you can't ignore
[7:10] Speaker 4: the cost aspect. This isn't like, you know, I think
[7:13] Speaker 4: that the Panther situation, you know, like last year there's
[7:17] Speaker 4: really no downside or not a lot of downside and
[7:20] Speaker 4: being heavy and ricodoubt when I was basically I think
[7:24] Speaker 4: I had one Cheube Hubbard.
[7:26] Speaker 1: Team out of one hundred and fifty in the MILLI
[7:27] Speaker 1: last year.
[7:28] Speaker 4: And so and that's the low like I try to
[7:30] Speaker 4: get exposure to. It's just one of those players I
[7:32] Speaker 4: just didn't get a lot of exposure to. Now I
[7:34] Speaker 4: look at this year and the true Bud Jonathan Brooks
[7:37] Speaker 4: thing I just don't see as comparable because of the
[7:39] Speaker 4: cost element. One place where I do think that's kind
[7:42] Speaker 4: of comparable, and I'll throw it out here because.
[7:43] Speaker 1: This guy is also a faller.
[7:45] Speaker 4: I've mostly faded Tony Poller in the MILLI, and I
[7:48] Speaker 4: know that's that goes against a lot of what consensus
[7:52] Speaker 4: is doing. I know that that there are sites out
[7:54] Speaker 4: there that are very like high slash, very okay with
[7:58] Speaker 4: going Tony Pollers way. But for me, I just I
[8:02] Speaker 4: prefer like a Jalen Warren a generium price when he
[8:05] Speaker 4: falls Ramandre Stevenson, I'd rather go that direction at running back.
[8:09] Speaker 4: If I'm taking a running back in that range, and
[8:11] Speaker 4: then also I'm going quarterback off him.
[8:13] Speaker 3: I was gonna say that's that's the start of the quarterback, Like,
[8:16] Speaker 3: let's get serious.
[8:17] Speaker 4: So I just having gotten that much Tony Pollard. With
[8:20] Speaker 4: that being said, even though this guy's been falling, I've
[8:22] Speaker 4: gotten a lot. I've gotten a decent amount of Taje.
[8:24] Speaker 1: Spears. I'll say that, like, I think I'm overweight on him.
[8:27] Speaker 4: I've got a lot of Nick Singleton, and I know
[8:29] Speaker 4: that that could end up being a zero I get it.
[8:31] Speaker 4: I understand the downside risk with that. I happen to
[8:34] Speaker 4: believe that a lot of the players that you're getting
[8:36] Speaker 4: in eighteen to twenty are zero type caliber players.
[8:40] Speaker 1: You know, Like I'm trying to balance my roster.
[8:43] Speaker 4: If I feel really good at running back and wide
[8:45] Speaker 4: receiver and I know that I can just pick a
[8:47] Speaker 4: position and just draft them and go for the you know,
[8:49] Speaker 4: shoot for the moon. I don't mind going Singleton's way
[8:52] Speaker 4: because I thought he had a really good profile overall
[8:55] Speaker 4: as a prospect. And then on top of that, I
[8:58] Speaker 4: don't really you know, Spears has never been in every
[9:01] Speaker 4: down back consistently. Tony Pollard has a really really rough
[9:04] Speaker 4: receiving profile and sort of peripherals, and we saw some
[9:07] Speaker 4: bad splits from him last year, even from a usage
[9:10] Speaker 4: standpoint when Taj Spears was active. And so I look
[9:13] Speaker 4: at a guy like Singleton where you're probably not gonna
[9:16] Speaker 4: see much buzz. I mean you might, but because he
[9:19] Speaker 4: is a rookie and he is athletic. But I doubt
[9:22] Speaker 4: you see a ton of buzz from him because you
[9:24] Speaker 4: kind of have that head coach and that coaching staff
[9:27] Speaker 4: that is more of like the traditional rookies got to
[9:31] Speaker 4: earn it kind of staff, right, even though dable, I
[9:33] Speaker 4: mean as oc he's played Day three rookies the last
[9:38] Speaker 4: two years. You had Tyrone Tracy two years ago, you
[9:39] Speaker 4: had Cam Scataboo last year, right, And so I don't
[9:42] Speaker 4: think that he's necessarily I don't know if he would
[9:44] Speaker 4: be afraid necessarily of doing that. But my greater point
[9:48] Speaker 4: here is that this is more of the dynamic of
[9:50] Speaker 4: the Chue Barrico thing last year of you know you're
[9:53] Speaker 4: getting Nick Singleton for a I mean, you can get
[9:55] Speaker 4: him in round nineteen. Now he's fallen, but you know
[9:58] Speaker 4: you're getting Nick Singleton at the end of Drea Tony
[10:01] Speaker 4: Pollard's a very firm middle round pick, and I'm just
[10:04] Speaker 4: opting to go that direction more because I don't know
[10:07] Speaker 4: if the upside case is that strong for Pollard, whereas
[10:10] Speaker 4: you know, if you're looking at the upside case for
[10:12] Speaker 4: Nick Singleton that late, you know, if things come together,
[10:15] Speaker 4: there's an embiguous But you have multiple injury outs for
[10:18] Speaker 4: a player like this and he can catch passes out
[10:19] Speaker 4: of the backfield, there's just there's it's just an intriguing profile,
[10:23] Speaker 4: you know. I don't think it's as like clear cut
[10:25] Speaker 4: and clean as Rico Daudl last year because there's a
[10:27] Speaker 4: three headed backfield. But that's more of the dynamic that
[10:30] Speaker 4: I think that we're referring to as opposed to right
[10:33] Speaker 4: now Jonathan Brooks schuwb Behovers is a little bit different there.
[10:35] Speaker 1: It's a lot different than that.
[10:37] Speaker 3: Let's get back to some risers who go up to
[10:38] Speaker 3: the Bay Area and talk about a guy that I
[10:40] Speaker 3: feel like we're just willing some health to go our
[10:44] Speaker 3: way for our guy. Ricky Piersau up half around since
[10:48] Speaker 3: the end of June.
[10:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting that he's up just because I think
[10:52] Speaker 4: it's gonna start to go the opposite direction potentially, because
[10:56] Speaker 4: we're getting a lot of design Dribbling hype out of camp.
[10:59] Speaker 4: You know, look, he's a size speed, kind of freak,
[11:02] Speaker 4: that type of player that I'm not surprised would look
[11:05] Speaker 4: good and like you know, get a lot of praise
[11:07] Speaker 4: at this time of year, you guys have if you
[11:10] Speaker 4: read the prospect guy, do you know that the model
[11:11] Speaker 4: didn't love Design Stribling. I'm not super high on Stribbling
[11:15] Speaker 4: as a talent as that profile. But that being said,
[11:18] Speaker 4: you know, if you look at like my rookie rankings
[11:19] Speaker 4: or if you look at where I'm ranking him right now,
[11:21] Speaker 4: it's really been at market. It's just that the community
[11:25] Speaker 4: kind of felt the same way about Stribling as a
[11:27] Speaker 4: prospect for the most part.
[11:28] Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like you have Christian Kirk getting
[11:31] Speaker 1: banged up.
[11:31] Speaker 4: That's allowed Shribbling to do a little bit more in
[11:34] Speaker 4: that offense and now he has more opportunity to shine
[11:38] Speaker 4: and do something. He got some of those like Juwan
[11:41] Speaker 4: Jennings type comps early on because obviously they lose Juwan Jennings,
[11:45] Speaker 4: but Jennings himself is a great blockers. That's the allure
[11:48] Speaker 4: with a player like that and Stribling. I mean, I'm
[11:51] Speaker 4: not going to sit here and say that I grinded
[11:53] Speaker 4: his blocking film, but Stribbling evidently can play that kind
[11:56] Speaker 4: of role really well, and.
[11:58] Speaker 1: So I do think there's a chance that we see
[11:59] Speaker 1: Peer kind of go back down a little bit.
[12:02] Speaker 4: But I thought that Pearsall was very undervalued to start
[12:05] Speaker 4: the MILLI process back in like May and and June
[12:07] Speaker 4: and stuff.
[12:08] Speaker 1: So I think I'm a little bit overweight right now.
[12:10] Speaker 4: I would imagine so just because you know, like I
[12:12] Speaker 4: thought he was a good pick, he had a really
[12:14] Speaker 4: underrated Yeah I met eleven percent, but he had really
[12:16] Speaker 4: underrated per route run metrics last year Piersall did. So
[12:20] Speaker 4: I still think he's a decent pick. It's just interesting
[12:22] Speaker 4: that we're seeing this dynamic since the end of June
[12:24] Speaker 4: and then into early July. I think we might see
[12:27] Speaker 4: him fall a little bit more because of design stribbling.
[12:29] Speaker 3: Tribbling is the only player where I've made a clip
[12:31] Speaker 3: for you and I've sought out blocking.
[12:34] Speaker 2: Footage for previously in the summer.
[12:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody else is like big explosive plays touchdowns, and
[12:40] Speaker 3: I literally put blocks in for shribbling because it was
[12:44] Speaker 3: part of the conversation another receiver, somebody you've been on
[12:47] Speaker 3: all summer, somebody who folks are catching up on is
[12:51] Speaker 3: now in Denver.
[12:52] Speaker 2: Jalen Waddell.
[12:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I did the I was at the
[12:55] Speaker 4: Fantasy Football Expo this past week and I did a
[12:57] Speaker 4: panel we always do, like an opening Expo panel on Sunday,
[13:01] Speaker 4: Me and then some other fantasy analysts in the space,
[13:04] Speaker 4: and Bob Lung, who runs the the expo, always asks
[13:08] Speaker 4: us a player that we're targeting this year and a
[13:09] Speaker 4: player that we're fading, so like our you know, like
[13:12] Speaker 4: favorite value and favorite avoid. Basically, I never have like
[13:15] Speaker 4: a clear cut answer for that, because you know, I
[13:18] Speaker 4: don't really look at fantasy football that way as like
[13:20] Speaker 4: I have my guys or anything like that. But the
[13:23] Speaker 4: guy that I said as the target was Jalen waddle
[13:25] Speaker 4: just because I just think it's an interesting profile slash
[13:29] Speaker 4: dynamic where like, you know, he's playing in an offense
[13:32] Speaker 4: with a positive VP of for play just twice in
[13:34] Speaker 4: his career, and in those two years he had a
[13:36] Speaker 4: two point sixty three and two point five to three
[13:38] Speaker 4: yards per out run rate. Now you get to Denver
[13:40] Speaker 4: a relatively pass heavy offense in a situation where he's
[13:43] Speaker 4: going to be playing the Z. And what's interesting about
[13:46] Speaker 4: that too is that, like last year, it's like, I
[13:48] Speaker 4: don't know how people have forgotten about this. I will
[13:51] Speaker 4: never understand why the fantasy football community loves Courtland Sutton
[13:55] Speaker 4: so much.
[13:56] Speaker 1: Like I just I don't get it at all. He's
[13:58] Speaker 1: the definition of a floor play.
[14:01] Speaker 4: You know, of course he can have random spike weeks
[14:03] Speaker 4: and such, but he's never consistently across the season since
[14:06] Speaker 4: like his second year in the league, given you like,
[14:09] Speaker 4: really really solid production, like even close to the league
[14:12] Speaker 4: winning production in fantasy. And now all they've done is
[14:15] Speaker 4: ad Jalen Waddle to the mix to solidify the fact
[14:18] Speaker 4: that Courtland Sutton's going to play the X in this offense.
[14:20] Speaker 1: If you remember last year.
[14:23] Speaker 4: There were instances there's like a four or five week
[14:25] Speaker 4: stretch where Troy Franklin was out targeting Courtland Sutton and
[14:29] Speaker 4: the reason for that was because the Z role in
[14:32] Speaker 4: this offense is really valuable, right, Like that's what Troy
[14:35] Speaker 4: Franklin was playing. Then they realize, oh, he's not that
[14:38] Speaker 4: good of a player, and he's little, and he doesn't
[14:40] Speaker 4: get off the line very well. And now they went
[14:43] Speaker 4: out and they traded for Jalen Wattle, who can play
[14:45] Speaker 4: that role, who we know is an ultra efficient receiver
[14:48] Speaker 4: and just a good receiver in general.
[14:50] Speaker 1: And so I'm hyped on what Jalen Wattle could do.
[14:54] Speaker 4: If you look at the spectrum of DraftKings drafts, you'll
[14:58] Speaker 4: see him go like I've taken him the three four
[15:00] Speaker 4: turn a lot, like I think that he could go,
[15:04] Speaker 4: like he could very easily go in that range. And
[15:06] Speaker 4: you shouldn't think twice because I think he's at the
[15:07] Speaker 4: top of that like really awesome wide receiver tier, like
[15:11] Speaker 4: close to like we're ze or you know, a Lave
[15:15] Speaker 4: or something like that. I like, I don't really see
[15:17] Speaker 4: a huge difference in Jalen Waddle versus Chris a Lave
[15:20] Speaker 4: this year. Maybe that's a hot take, but I don't.
[15:23] Speaker 4: I don't see why we need to differentiate it so
[15:25] Speaker 4: much in our rankings, And just like stick to ADP
[15:28] Speaker 4: with with Jalen Waddle, and I think others are realizing
[15:30] Speaker 4: that and seeing that too, and that's why his ADP's rising.
[15:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think when it comes to a Lave
[15:36] Speaker 3: versus Wattle specifically, I think the range of outcomes for
[15:38] Speaker 3: a LAVE is a lot wider than people want to
[15:41] Speaker 3: admit because one of the introduction of Jordan Tyson, a
[15:45] Speaker 3: very explosive talent, but also like Tyler Schuck could just
[15:49] Speaker 3: stink and if that offense goes downhill like, that's a
[15:53] Speaker 3: massive impact. The other thing we've talked about Seahawks defensive
[15:56] Speaker 3: regression as well the Broncos top eight defense. If there's
[16:00] Speaker 3: any sort of regression there whatsoever, and they can't play
[16:04] Speaker 3: control ball with bow Nicks like, there could be spots
[16:06] Speaker 3: where their offense has to open up as well. And
[16:09] Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle is just I don't know, He's just one
[16:11] Speaker 3: of those where he's just he's he's a good player,
[16:14] Speaker 3: man like. He is one of the main reasons, obviously,
[16:17] Speaker 3: along with Tyreek Hill, why the Dolphins offense was what
[16:21] Speaker 3: it was, you know, when to and and Mike McDaniel
[16:25] Speaker 3: were cooking down there. He's he's an unbelievable talent and
[16:28] Speaker 3: in a great spot now.
[16:30] Speaker 1: I think people have been burned by him.
[16:31] Speaker 4: And that's part of the reason too, is you know,
[16:33] Speaker 4: he's had some injury issues and such, but if he
[16:35] Speaker 4: stays healthy.
[16:36] Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle could smash this year. He really could have
[16:38] Speaker 1: a great year.
[16:39] Speaker 3: Absolutely, Let's talk about Sean Payton's old team and an
[16:42] Speaker 3: older player who we thought maybe he could get traded,
[16:45] Speaker 3: might retire, might something, but no. Alvin Kamara back in
[16:49] Speaker 3: the Saints and rising right now in Beastball drafts.
[16:52] Speaker 4: You got to think that if with him going back,
[16:54] Speaker 4: there's this idea that he's going to have some role,
[16:57] Speaker 4: some complimentary role to Travis achen Atn whatever. That was
[17:02] Speaker 4: one of the big topics at the expo this week
[17:04] Speaker 4: is how people pronounce it on their shows. I think
[17:06] Speaker 4: I might stick with ETN because I can't deal with
[17:08] Speaker 4: people yelling at me for not saying ETN. But anyway,
[17:11] Speaker 4: Travis that running back that they have in New Orleans,
[17:14] Speaker 4: now I think he's going to see the early down
[17:16] Speaker 4: stuff and be fine.
[17:17] Speaker 1: Like to me, Travis Etn is a like. He was
[17:21] Speaker 1: probably a.
[17:22] Speaker 4: Little bit overvalued as like a player last year, not
[17:24] Speaker 4: in fantasy necessarily, but just as a general like player.
[17:27] Speaker 4: Like when you look at his secondary metrics and his
[17:30] Speaker 4: his success rate was worse than Beashall Tutons, for instance.
[17:33] Speaker 4: Now he was better yards over expected per attempt, you
[17:35] Speaker 4: know that the stuff that is pretty solid running back
[17:39] Speaker 4: type metrics, even though there's not many of them out there.
[17:41] Speaker 4: He was fine, you know, in some of those metrics,
[17:44] Speaker 4: But it wasn't like he had this like no doubt
[17:46] Speaker 4: type performance last season. It was a lot better in
[17:49] Speaker 4: fantasy than it was in real life. And despite the
[17:52] Speaker 4: narrative that is attached to him that he's this amazing
[17:55] Speaker 4: pass catcher, he hasn't seen like that fifteen percent target
[17:59] Speaker 4: shair type season in his career.
[18:00] Speaker 1: It's just not happened and come to fruition.
[18:02] Speaker 4: And so not only that, but Kellen Moore's offenses historically
[18:06] Speaker 4: haven't really targeted the running backs. Now there's obviously some
[18:09] Speaker 4: noise this and personnel related stuff to that, but like
[18:11] Speaker 4: it's not an offense that like hyper targets running backs
[18:13] Speaker 4: or anything like that. And so when I look at
[18:16] Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara resigning there, I say to myself, there's probably
[18:20] Speaker 4: some role for him to play a pass catching, you know,
[18:23] Speaker 4: role in the offense. So I understand why his ADP
[18:27] Speaker 4: might rise a little bit. With that being said, I
[18:31] Speaker 4: kind of kept things a little bit more neutral with
[18:33] Speaker 4: him versus how things have actually risen in the Best
[18:36] Speaker 4: Ball streets, mostly because there was an opportunity for him
[18:40] Speaker 4: to get traded or to leave New Orleans and find
[18:43] Speaker 4: himself in a situation where he would be getting.
[18:45] Speaker 1: Clearly more work in that offense.
[18:47] Speaker 4: But now he's obviously splitting that backfield with a pretty
[18:50] Speaker 4: good running back. Not great, like I said, but a
[18:52] Speaker 4: pretty good one. And I think the Saint's offensive line's
[18:54] Speaker 4: gonna be pretty good this year, which is a big,
[18:57] Speaker 4: big key part to why I think that offense might
[19:00] Speaker 4: turn the corner and be decent this season. Doesn't mean
[19:03] Speaker 4: I'm drafting Chris a Lave, but I do have plenty
[19:05] Speaker 4: of like Tyler Shuck, Juwan Johnson, Jordan Tyson, et cetera.
[19:09] Speaker 4: So I get it why he's rising, but I do
[19:12] Speaker 4: think that, you know, it's one of those things where,
[19:14] Speaker 4: like the best ball community is always reactionary based on
[19:17] Speaker 4: some sort of news. You know, It's like Alec Pierce
[19:19] Speaker 4: right now, he goes on PUP and all of a sudden,
[19:21] Speaker 4: everyone's like, oh, I can't draft Alec Pierce.
[19:23] Speaker 1: But it's like we kind of knew something was going
[19:25] Speaker 1: on here. So I don't know what your expectation was.
[19:27] Speaker 4: Maybe it was his ADP would have just risen if
[19:29] Speaker 4: he didn't, sure, because we would feel even more confident.
[19:32] Speaker 4: But we knew that something was likely going on here,
[19:35] Speaker 4: and you're gonna see the community react to that in
[19:38] Speaker 4: a negative way. It's just that it's just what had
[19:40] Speaker 4: the aj Brown stuff from earlier this offseason, where we
[19:43] Speaker 4: all knew he was getting traded. There's like an eighty
[19:45] Speaker 4: percent chance he was gonna do to the Patriots, if
[19:47] Speaker 4: not higher. And then he does, and then he goes
[19:50] Speaker 4: up over around and ADP, which I did not expect
[19:54] Speaker 4: at all, but I was reminded that's just what the
[19:56] Speaker 4: market does. So I think that's what the market is
[19:58] Speaker 4: doing with Alvin Kamara in this.
[19:59] Speaker 3: Game, seeing it with Zach Sharbonay two as well, like
[20:03] Speaker 3: Alex Pearce was announced on Pop.
[20:05] Speaker 2: But this is we knew this, this is something we
[20:07] Speaker 2: had been planning for.
[20:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, the Sharbonay thing, I mean, any ADP Zach Sharbonay
[20:12] Speaker 4: is wild.
[20:13] Speaker 1: I saw him going round fifteen to day.
[20:14] Speaker 4: I couldn't take him or I didn't want to take him,
[20:16] Speaker 4: exagenarian price on that team, and it's it's it's wild
[20:20] Speaker 4: because of course he was going to start on the
[20:22] Speaker 4: pup like, of course, he was like, if he didn't,
[20:26] Speaker 4: then his ADP would have gone like four rounds higher
[20:29] Speaker 4: than where it's going right now, if not more, you know,
[20:31] Speaker 4: so yeah, I mean it's it's try try not to
[20:34] Speaker 4: be so reactionary.
[20:35] Speaker 1: When when you're making these selections.
[20:37] Speaker 3: Let's pivot to some followers now briefly mentioned him with
[20:40] Speaker 3: his former team Miami, and that's Tyreek Killed down two
[20:43] Speaker 3: rounds twenty six picks since the end of June.
[20:46] Speaker 2: This is a player we have not discussed at all.
[20:48] Speaker 3: We discussed Ayuk a little bit before he went off
[20:50] Speaker 3: the deep end, but we've not really touched upon Tyreek Hill.
[20:53] Speaker 2: Where are you at on Hill?
[20:55] Speaker 4: I've zero percent Tyree Kill in the Millie. I've done
[20:57] Speaker 4: ninety two MILLI drafts. I have not taken Tyreekill once.
[21:00] Speaker 4: I mean, this is the Tank Dell thing, right Like,
[21:02] Speaker 4: it's that kind of injury and Tyreek Hill is older.
[21:06] Speaker 4: Explosion is the main part of his game, and that's
[21:09] Speaker 4: why we want him in fantasy because he's one of
[21:12] Speaker 4: the few guys who can just win with athleticism that way.
[21:15] Speaker 4: Coming off a major injury like that, I just don't
[21:18] Speaker 4: want to deal with it. Especially because he's, you know,
[21:19] Speaker 4: at the tail end of his career at this point.
[21:21] Speaker 4: To me, it's just not a worthwhile investment. That's one
[21:24] Speaker 4: of those like truth. And there there were times where
[21:26] Speaker 4: like he was going in like round fifteen and such,
[21:30] Speaker 4: where like there's some like relatively usable players in that.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Range that you know, at least give you something and
[21:35] Speaker 1: you won't take a zero four. But there's a very
[21:37] Speaker 1: real chance you take a zero to Tyreek Hill. So
[21:40] Speaker 1: I'm out.
[21:40] Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that he's falling after the reports that
[21:43] Speaker 4: his leg like isn't functioning properly.
[21:45] Speaker 1: I don't advise other people taking and drafting Tyreek Hill.
[21:49] Speaker 3: Let's get to Chocolate City, the DC area rookie running
[21:53] Speaker 3: back k Tron Allen is starting to slide here as
[21:56] Speaker 3: we get into August.
[21:58] Speaker 4: I guess this is the Jakori cross merit thing, you know,
[22:01] Speaker 4: like that he's getting a little bit more love.
[22:03] Speaker 2: Nobody seems more in the summer like good old Bill.
[22:06] Speaker 4: I know, it's really interesting to me, Like, I think
[22:08] Speaker 4: Bill is fine enough as an early down guy. The
[22:11] Speaker 4: one thing I do want to call out though, and
[22:14] Speaker 4: we're gonna see it a lot when a player is
[22:16] Speaker 4: working like doing a lot of something in camp. It
[22:19] Speaker 4: doesn't mean that the team is trying to get that
[22:22] Speaker 4: player to do that thing in the actual games. A
[22:25] Speaker 4: good example of this you could use it with JCM
[22:27] Speaker 4: but Jenarium Price right now, they're using him a lot
[22:30] Speaker 4: as a pass catcher. But I would imagine they're doing
[22:33] Speaker 4: that because Jenerium Price didn't have that much of a
[22:35] Speaker 4: pass catching profile.
[22:36] Speaker 1: Like we don't know how good of a pass catcher
[22:38] Speaker 1: Jenerarium Price is.
[22:39] Speaker 4: They're probably just getting them reps because they don't know
[22:42] Speaker 4: what And similarly, George Hallani right is getting first team
[22:46] Speaker 4: reps because they just want to see what their depth
[22:48] Speaker 4: looks like and see what he can maybe do between
[22:50] Speaker 4: the tackles a little bit more as opposed to just
[22:52] Speaker 4: playing that like third down back type role. Right.
[22:55] Speaker 1: So it's the same thing with Jacory Krossky merit where
[22:58] Speaker 1: the early down stuff.
[23:00] Speaker 4: By the way, George Allani, I have way too much
[23:02] Speaker 4: George Allan, way more than I'd like to admit. And
[23:05] Speaker 4: and DK basketball right now, where twentieth round pick, I
[23:09] Speaker 4: just need like a body at running back as my
[23:11] Speaker 4: RB six, I've gotten him. I think I'm at like
[23:14] Speaker 4: fourteen percent George Lani right now, just to don't guys, guys,
[23:17] Speaker 4: don't don't yell at me about that. Please don't yell
[23:19] Speaker 4: at me about that.
[23:20] Speaker 2: I mean they are in the playoffs.
[23:22] Speaker 3: I besmersed him by calling him with something a couple
[23:24] Speaker 3: of weeks ago, but like they were giving him the.
[23:26] Speaker 2: Ball in the playoffs.
[23:27] Speaker 1: I know.
[23:28] Speaker 4: I'm just like, to me, it's one of those things
[23:30] Speaker 4: where like I'm willing with a twentieth round pick to
[23:32] Speaker 4: lay it to just like go into like I don't
[23:35] Speaker 4: think he's good.
[23:36] Speaker 1: I'm just going into this idea.
[23:37] Speaker 4: Like I know that backfields are chosen by coaches, Like
[23:40] Speaker 4: whatever the coach wants to do, if they want to
[23:42] Speaker 4: use him, then he could be usable in some way.
[23:44] Speaker 1: To me, I don't see why like we would be
[23:48] Speaker 1: so much higher on.
[23:49] Speaker 4: Laquinn Allen than George Allani when George Laani's floor is
[23:53] Speaker 4: probably the role that la Quinn Allen's going to be
[23:55] Speaker 4: playing right where there is more upside there that what
[23:58] Speaker 4: if to start the year they do use him more
[24:01] Speaker 4: as the early down guy and he's splitting with Jenarian Price,
[24:03] Speaker 4: but which a Corey krossky Merritt. We're seeing a lot
[24:06] Speaker 4: of reports and they like want to get him involved
[24:08] Speaker 4: more as a receiver. Guys, Bill had a very poor
[24:13] Speaker 4: receiving profile coming out of college and he did nothing
[24:15] Speaker 4: as a receiver last year. I think that it's a
[24:17] Speaker 4: little bit too bullish of a projection to assume that
[24:20] Speaker 4: he's going to take on like a eight nine percent
[24:22] Speaker 4: target share in that offense, especially when Rashad White's there,
[24:25] Speaker 4: and that's that's like, that's like the one thing that
[24:27] Speaker 4: Rashad White can do. And you know, I'm a believer,
[24:29] Speaker 4: and I think teams should be doing this more of
[24:31] Speaker 4: disguising what they're going to do given the type of
[24:34] Speaker 4: running back that's on the field, which is what the
[24:36] Speaker 4: Rams really lit like leaned into last year with Blake.
[24:40] Speaker 1: Krm and Kyrin Williams, Like, don't have a third down
[24:43] Speaker 1: running back.
[24:44] Speaker 4: Have a running back that you know can spell your
[24:46] Speaker 4: starter and you guys can rotate drives or whatever, you know,
[24:49] Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. That's not what Washington's doing,
[24:53] Speaker 4: just given the personnel there, right, because Rashad White not
[24:55] Speaker 4: the best in between the tackles, guy j Cory Krossky
[24:58] Speaker 4: Merrit not a good pass catcher. Two of them combined
[25:00] Speaker 4: would be a pretty fun running back, but they're not combined.
[25:03] Speaker 1: That's the problem. Right.
[25:04] Speaker 4: So I say all of that because we're talking about
[25:06] Speaker 4: kay Tron Allen and Alan to me, is is a
[25:10] Speaker 4: duplicate of Jacory krossky Merrit in terms of the way
[25:14] Speaker 4: they're going to be deployed.
[25:15] Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this before.
[25:16] Speaker 4: If you look at like the Minnesota backfield versus the
[25:19] Speaker 4: Washington backfield, the Minnesota backfield has Jordan Mason as the
[25:23] Speaker 4: very clear early down runner, which is why he's been
[25:26] Speaker 4: rising up a little bit, I believe, and then Aaron
[25:29] Speaker 4: Jones and DeMont Claiborne as more pass catching backs right
[25:32] Speaker 4: and then in Washington, Rashad White is the clear pass catcher,
[25:36] Speaker 4: so he has a stable role in that backfield, whereas
[25:39] Speaker 4: Jacory krossky Merritt doesn't necessarily have that role, which is
[25:43] Speaker 4: why k Tron Allen to me is kind of interesting
[25:46] Speaker 4: because he's just got to beat out Jacory krossky Merritt
[25:50] Speaker 4: to get a little bit more work.
[25:51] Speaker 1: And he's obviously a completely different kind.
[25:52] Speaker 4: Of running back than Bill is and even Rashad White is,
[25:55] Speaker 4: which is also a plus in my opinion, for you know,
[25:58] Speaker 4: a Day three dark throw type player. So Kateron Allen
[26:01] Speaker 4: is still fine in my opinion if you want to
[26:03] Speaker 4: draft him late, even though he's falling. But do know that, like,
[26:06] Speaker 4: that's the dynamic that we're working with with these backfields.
[26:09] Speaker 4: Like I like drafting DeMont Claiborne because the guy he
[26:12] Speaker 4: has to beat is Aaron Jones, who is now on
[26:15] Speaker 4: the wrong side of the age curve, and we don't know,
[26:18] Speaker 4: you know, how dynamic he's gonna look this year, right,
[26:20] Speaker 4: Whereas Demon Claiborne is a very dynamic player and he's
[26:23] Speaker 4: a decent pass catcher. So that's kind of the way
[26:25] Speaker 4: that I look at these late round rookie running back darts,
[26:28] Speaker 4: these Day three guys.
[26:29] Speaker 1: And I feel the same way about k Ron Allen.
[26:32] Speaker 3: The next falling running back is also a young guy,
[26:35] Speaker 3: but he's entering his third year. I believe he's old
[26:37] Speaker 3: enough to finally buy a twenty seven dollars tall boy
[26:40] Speaker 3: at MetLife. I'm not sure, though, I think he is
[26:43] Speaker 3: finally twenty one in Braylen Allen. But you're using this
[26:46] Speaker 3: as a jumping off point to talk about a guy
[26:48] Speaker 3: you've liked since you wrote him up with the prospect guide,
[26:50] Speaker 3: and that's Isaiah Davis.
[26:52] Speaker 4: I think Isaiah Davis is just as good, if not better,
[26:54] Speaker 4: of a player as Braylan Allen. And there's been some
[26:57] Speaker 4: small report saying that he could be the RB two
[26:59] Speaker 4: in that offense. Now this is where reporting, like the
[27:03] Speaker 4: way that one Beat reporter views what an RB two
[27:05] Speaker 4: is could be different than another Beat reporter because again,
[27:08] Speaker 4: these guys play roles. That's what I was trying to
[27:10] Speaker 4: say about, like k Tron Allen there or some of
[27:12] Speaker 4: these other rookie running backs, they're playing specific roles in
[27:15] Speaker 4: their offense. Isaiah Davis, if you want to lump him
[27:18] Speaker 4: into the Laquin Allen you know us or George Hallane
[27:24] Speaker 4: type group, I think that's fair, right, But like I
[27:26] Speaker 4: think Isaiah Davis can handle more on the ground if
[27:29] Speaker 4: something were to happen to the guy in front of
[27:30] Speaker 4: him in Breeze hall right, Like I think Davis can
[27:33] Speaker 4: be in every down back in a pinch? Do I
[27:36] Speaker 4: think that he's gonna be that, like, you know, when
[27:39] Speaker 4: his rookie contracts up or whatever the case may be,
[27:41] Speaker 4: like some team is going to be released. No, I
[27:43] Speaker 4: don't think that's the case. But as a backup player, sure,
[27:47] Speaker 4: Like I think that Isaiah Davis has that opportunity. Braylan
[27:49] Speaker 4: Allen has not really proven that he has the pass
[27:52] Speaker 4: catching chops where Isaiah Davis has, like they've deployed him
[27:55] Speaker 4: that way historically. So I think Davis just straight up
[27:58] Speaker 4: is a little bit more appealing than Braylen Allen at
[28:01] Speaker 4: this point. And I think the reports like David has
[28:03] Speaker 4: also been really efficient when he's gotten the ball and
[28:06] Speaker 4: touched the ball. That's another thing to keep in mind.
[28:08] Speaker 4: And so I think these reports about him like being
[28:11] Speaker 4: their RB two whatever that means. Sure, but I do
[28:14] Speaker 4: think that there's some validity to the idea that Isaiah
[28:17] Speaker 4: Davis could be a better fantasy asset than Braylen Allen
[28:19] Speaker 4: this year.
[28:20] Speaker 3: Davis also loved by the staff. I can I can
[28:22] Speaker 3: tell you this much, great special teams player, a useful player,
[28:26] Speaker 3: So somebody who you don't have to worry about ever
[28:28] Speaker 3: being on a roster bubble or anything like that. So
[28:31] Speaker 3: you're definitely buying points when you take Isaiah Davis because
[28:34] Speaker 3: he's going to find his way on the field. It's
[28:37] Speaker 3: just to your point, how much is he going to
[28:39] Speaker 3: see the field versus a Braileen Allen last one, and
[28:42] Speaker 3: this comes with multiple questions marks from you down half
[28:46] Speaker 3: around since the end of June. It's the tight end
[28:49] Speaker 3: up in San Francisco. George Kittle.
[28:52] Speaker 4: I'm just surprised that his ADP's follow him because it
[28:54] Speaker 4: feels like there's only been optimistic news about Kidd, right right.
[28:57] Speaker 4: I don't get this high, right Yeah, I mean, like
[29:00] Speaker 4: I actually was more bearish on Kittle, you know, a
[29:04] Speaker 4: couple months ago, and I wasn't drafting enough of him.
[29:06] Speaker 1: I've drafted a lot more of him recently.
[29:08] Speaker 4: I'm trying to at least I'm still under weight on Kittle,
[29:11] Speaker 4: but I'm at like six percent or something like that.
[29:13] Speaker 4: I'd rather be at least at eight percent, maybe even
[29:16] Speaker 4: overweight on him, because I think that things are treading
[29:18] Speaker 4: in the right direction.
[29:20] Speaker 1: And given what some like docs have said, this was
[29:24] Speaker 1: an achilles injury.
[29:25] Speaker 4: That wasn't like the bad kind of Achilles injury, Like
[29:27] Speaker 4: it was one where you know he could return and
[29:30] Speaker 4: at least get close to what we know from George Kittle.
[29:33] Speaker 4: You know, there's definitely some trends in the draft guy
[29:36] Speaker 4: that don't favor Kittle, but he's already beaten those trends.
[29:38] Speaker 4: Historically like slot rate type stuff, and he's just a
[29:41] Speaker 4: you know, he's nowt he's like a Derrick Henry type player.
[29:43] Speaker 4: He's just an outlier type player where we've seen it
[29:46] Speaker 4: year in year out, So we can kind of throw
[29:48] Speaker 4: out the trends for a player like this and not
[29:49] Speaker 4: really worry about it too much. Great offense, great environment,
[29:53] Speaker 4: obviously one that has sustainably had really high passing touchdown rates.
[29:59] Speaker 4: Kittle in the ten round, which you can get really consistently,
[30:02] Speaker 4: like right before you get into like the Dallas Goddard
[30:04] Speaker 4: range and stuff.
[30:05] Speaker 1: I've been trying to get a little bit more of that.
[30:07] Speaker 4: And the other thing that you can do is if
[30:09] Speaker 4: you're at the tail end of like round nine, you
[30:11] Speaker 4: know you're in the front of the draft, you can
[30:13] Speaker 4: double tap and maybe reach a little bit, but get
[30:15] Speaker 4: like a Purdy Kittle stacked pretty easily. That's the range
[30:18] Speaker 4: where the side of the board where Mike Evans goes too,
[30:21] Speaker 4: So you can get very much get a pretty good
[30:23] Speaker 4: San Francisco stack if you want to, and you could
[30:25] Speaker 4: differentiate it like you could like that that Philly San Francisco.
[30:29] Speaker 1: Game is all on the left side of the board.
[30:31] Speaker 1: If you want it to be, and so you can
[30:32] Speaker 1: play with that a little bit.
[30:33] Speaker 4: So I like Kittle where he goes right now, I
[30:36] Speaker 4: would envision his ADP going up as we get more reports,
[30:40] Speaker 4: just because things have been trending in the right direction.
[30:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, unless obviously the only thing is is a setback.
[30:45] Speaker 3: But yeah, it's right, sure, but that's that's an obvious one, right,
[30:50] Speaker 3: like any it could be major one, that's right. Yeah,
[30:53] Speaker 3: if everything is neutral, You're right, it's gonna be. It's
[30:56] Speaker 3: just gonna be positive because that means he's out there
[30:59] Speaker 3: running routes. And to bring it back to shribbling blocking
[31:02] Speaker 3: because Kill's blocking is like one of his main utilities
[31:04] Speaker 3: for that uh Shanahan offense.
[31:06] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[31:07] Speaker 4: All right, those are the rises and followers. We do
[31:09] Speaker 4: have an interview. I talked to establish the runs Adam Levitton.
[31:13] Speaker 4: Everyone knows and loves Levitan, including myself. We talked about
[31:17] Speaker 4: his typical approach to DraftKings this year Little zero RB
[31:21] Speaker 4: talk his end of draft favorites, which is always a
[31:25] Speaker 4: big talking point, a question that people ask this show
[31:28] Speaker 4: pretty consistently. So much more though, so enjoy my conversation
[31:33] Speaker 4: with Adam Levetan. All Right, Levitan. So I know that,
[31:51] Speaker 4: you know, you probably mix things up each draft. You
[31:53] Speaker 4: know you're reading the board and stuff. But when you
[31:55] Speaker 4: sort of take a step back, what's been your typical
[31:57] Speaker 4: approach this year on draftings?
[31:59] Speaker 5: It's crazy how much the meta has changed on DraftKings
[32:03] Speaker 5: best Ball. I think this is my fourth or fifth
[32:06] Speaker 5: year playing beasketball seriously on DraftKings, and like my initial
[32:11] Speaker 5: thought when playing this format, it's full PPR. There's bonuses
[32:16] Speaker 5: for one hundred yards you can start for wide receivers.
[32:19] Speaker 5: This is a very, very wide receiver friendly format, you know,
[32:23] Speaker 5: very different than underdog half PPR. No bonuses on underdog
[32:26] Speaker 5: like touchdowns and quarterbacks scoring are going to be such
[32:29] Speaker 5: a big part of your score on DraftKings. It should
[32:32] Speaker 5: be wide receivers, pass catching running backs. And yet this year,
[32:37] Speaker 5: for the first time, I see the meta the public
[32:41] Speaker 5: and a ton of sharp people also just hammering wide
[32:44] Speaker 5: receiver early because of the way the league has gone
[32:47] Speaker 5: the last couple of years. I do not think that
[32:49] Speaker 5: is right to force that this year. So I've been
[32:52] Speaker 5: a little bit contryand with some more wide receiver friendly
[32:55] Speaker 5: starts this year. We can talk more about that later,
[32:57] Speaker 5: and then the other big meta change this year in
[33:00] Speaker 5: DraftKings has been quarterback adp. Like it used to be,
[33:05] Speaker 5: you could get pocket passers in round twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
[33:09] Speaker 5: fifteen to my favorite teams on DraftKings were three later
[33:12] Speaker 5: round stacked quarterbacks pocket passing stacked quarterbacks this year though,
[33:18] Speaker 5: like Lamar Jaden Daniels, Drake May Jalen Hurts, elite duel
[33:23] Speaker 5: threat guys, they're not even going that much earlier than
[33:27] Speaker 5: Dak Stafford Caleb types. And so I have way more
[33:32] Speaker 5: two quarterback teams that have an elite quarterback or a
[33:35] Speaker 5: dual threat who I think are going too late, versus
[33:37] Speaker 5: more of the three stacked ones. So there's definitely some
[33:40] Speaker 5: huge meta changes going on. It also depends like who's
[33:43] Speaker 5: in my room. I do a lot of these five
[33:45] Speaker 5: five fives on DraftKings, and I know, like all the rags,
[33:48] Speaker 5: there's a lot of REGs in there. I know what
[33:50] Speaker 5: they're gonna do, you know what I mean, And so
[33:51] Speaker 5: like I it makes a difference there when you know
[33:54] Speaker 5: how people are gonna draft.
[33:55] Speaker 4: Also if you're going like like quarterback, like I had
[33:57] Speaker 4: a team today where I went Lamar Jackson, Dart Right
[34:02] Speaker 4: and in that case, you're done at quarterback. That's been
[34:06] Speaker 4: that's been the big thing, because there's like pros and
[34:08] Speaker 4: cons to it, obviously, right because like the pro to
[34:10] Speaker 4: me would be advance piece slash. Maybe you can get
[34:14] Speaker 4: another stack in the in the playoffs, what have you.
[34:16] Speaker 4: But then the con obviously is there's this other flex
[34:19] Speaker 4: that you're just foregoing.
[34:20] Speaker 1: Are you more like.
[34:21] Speaker 5: Done at two in that case, Lamar Dart, I am
[34:24] Speaker 5: fine being done at two. I do do some backstacking
[34:28] Speaker 5: with those kind of starts. Sometimes let's say Mendoza falls
[34:31] Speaker 5: past Adp, I'll just take Mendoza and then go Mayor.
[34:35] Speaker 5: Or let's say, you know, I have a chance, I'm
[34:36] Speaker 5: at the turn in the back and I can go
[34:38] Speaker 5: like Gino, a d Mitchell or Sadiq Gino, like those
[34:43] Speaker 5: type of opportunities to find the third quarterback and get
[34:46] Speaker 5: a stack that can help you in the playoffs. And again,
[34:48] Speaker 5: the three quarterback stuff isn't even that important for regular season.
[34:51] Speaker 5: It is important because you want three stacks in the playoffs.
[34:54] Speaker 5: That is very clear, Like three stacked quarterbacks in the
[34:57] Speaker 5: playoffs is very valuable. So yes, I'm okay with Dart, Lamar,
[35:00] Speaker 5: if I see a spot to do it with one
[35:02] Speaker 5: of these late round guys, I will, but I certainly
[35:04] Speaker 5: won't force it.
[35:05] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[35:05] Speaker 4: That exact thing happened with me where Rogers went and
[35:08] Speaker 4: like I got Rogers in like round sixteen or so,
[35:10] Speaker 4: like he fell right because he usually would be like
[35:12] Speaker 4: fourteen and I just got Darnell Washington or something at
[35:14] Speaker 4: the end just to just.
[35:15] Speaker 5: To have or you could do the Bernard thing, you know,
[35:17] Speaker 5: Rogers into Bernard also, yeah, right right, So with you
[35:20] Speaker 5: going more wide receiver heavy than the market overall, just generally,
[35:24] Speaker 5: does that mean when you look at a strategy and
[35:27] Speaker 5: an approach like zero RB, A lot of people are
[35:30] Speaker 5: saying zero RB is dead?
[35:31] Speaker 4: At him?
[35:32] Speaker 1: Is zero RB dead? And Gun I was never really
[35:35] Speaker 1: a zero RB guy.
[35:37] Speaker 5: My favorite builds on DraftKings were always hero RB and
[35:41] Speaker 5: like I still do a lot of that.
[35:43] Speaker 1: It's just crazy to me, man, I don't know what
[35:45] Speaker 1: you think.
[35:45] Speaker 5: But like I was talking about running back heavy starts,
[35:48] Speaker 5: especially in season long but also on Underdog Best Ball,
[35:51] Speaker 5: and people would like literally laugh at me, like, oh,
[35:54] Speaker 5: you're such a boomer, Adam. You're all allowed to take
[35:57] Speaker 5: wide receivers, yes, and rookies early and now all these
[36:00] Speaker 5: people are doing these extreme running back heavy starts, so
[36:04] Speaker 5: I'm not doing much Zero RB are really any I
[36:07] Speaker 5: never really have, but I do think it's more viable
[36:10] Speaker 5: now because some of these wide receiver values are insane.
[36:13] Speaker 5: Like I don't know what you think, but to me,
[36:15] Speaker 5: like in previous iterations of Fantasy, Jordan Tyson, Christian Watson,
[36:21] Speaker 5: Tedrory McMillan, Burden a lave, I think these guys would
[36:25] Speaker 5: be going much higher in a different metas. So I
[36:28] Speaker 5: do think it sets up pretty well for zero RB.
[36:31] Speaker 5: If you're a zero RB bro, I'm more of a
[36:33] Speaker 5: hero RB at most extreme.
[36:36] Speaker 4: I think that that's that to me has been my
[36:39] Speaker 4: like it's weird that it's contrarian, right like, but it's
[36:42] Speaker 4: been like my like go to like get one of
[36:45] Speaker 4: these especially like like I've gotten a lot of like
[36:47] Speaker 4: unfortunately a lot of like five to eight spots in
[36:51] Speaker 4: the MILLI where it's like, like I don't I'm not
[36:53] Speaker 4: like super super high on Jonathan Taylor, for instance, right,
[36:55] Speaker 4: so I don't want to just like pound Jonathan Taylor
[36:57] Speaker 4: and get him every single time. I've ended up with
[36:59] Speaker 4: like a lot of jas because of that. You know,
[37:01] Speaker 4: some awesome amenra whatever. And then you find like a
[37:04] Speaker 4: pretty good pocket of running back in round two, and
[37:06] Speaker 4: then you hit that range of wide receiver in that
[37:10] Speaker 4: like three to five range where there's just so many
[37:12] Speaker 4: upside receivers that it's hard to not go wide out there,
[37:16] Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, I've naturally just been
[37:18] Speaker 4: going with my favorite value on the board essentially.
[37:20] Speaker 1: But it's a hero RB build, right, like just just
[37:22] Speaker 1: like that.
[37:22] Speaker 4: And so I felt the same way as you have,
[37:25] Speaker 4: you know, like I think that like I tried to
[37:28] Speaker 4: describe this once, but like if you were to look
[37:30] Speaker 4: at like fantasy strategy from a zero to one hundred spectrum,
[37:33] Speaker 4: and like a zero is like a zero RB one
[37:35] Speaker 4: hundred being robust RB.
[37:37] Speaker 1: Year in, year out. I'm usually like in that like
[37:40] Speaker 1: thirty to seventy range in terms of.
[37:41] Speaker 4: Like the way that I look at strategy, right, whereas
[37:43] Speaker 4: the market often will try to go zero. And I
[37:46] Speaker 4: say the market like part of it's like touts, right,
[37:48] Speaker 4: it's other touts that are saying this and like driving this,
[37:51] Speaker 4: and so like like maybe I'm a little bit more
[37:53] Speaker 4: running back heavy, but like I feel like the game
[37:56] Speaker 4: itself doesn't change quite as much as some others make
[37:59] Speaker 4: it seem to be changing.
[38:01] Speaker 5: I also think people tout or they make their conclusions
[38:04] Speaker 5: about thinking about the scoring system. I mean, I'm way
[38:06] Speaker 5: more likely to go robust, star beyond underdog than am
[38:09] Speaker 5: on DraftKings, you know, and so I think that kind
[38:12] Speaker 5: of gets lost in the mix. One thing I will say, though,
[38:13] Speaker 5: is like I actually like balanced builds a lot this year,
[38:16] Speaker 5: and some people might disagree, but you know, I do,
[38:19] Speaker 5: and we'll talk about some of them. I do like
[38:20] Speaker 5: some of the Round four running backs. But also if
[38:23] Speaker 5: you go zero RB, you kind of box yourself out
[38:25] Speaker 5: from some of these later wide receivers that I like.
[38:27] Speaker 5: Like let's say you start six wide receivers in your
[38:29] Speaker 5: first seven picks. You can't really take pearsol Downs, Golden
[38:35] Speaker 5: Coker types, and I kind of like those guys also,
[38:37] Speaker 5: so I you know, one thing about doing the extreme
[38:39] Speaker 5: stuff is you box yourself out from falling values in
[38:41] Speaker 5: best ball, which is one of the most important things,
[38:43] Speaker 5: And you box out from guys that you like down
[38:46] Speaker 5: board at the position.
[38:47] Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. If you look at the latter
[38:50] Speaker 4: parts around one and then into round two, you have
[38:52] Speaker 4: a lot of interesting running back profiles. Like I said,
[38:54] Speaker 4: you know, if I get a JSN round one, I'll
[38:57] Speaker 4: get the falling running back value in that tier, you know,
[38:59] Speaker 4: and round two oftentimes. But I want to ask you
[39:02] Speaker 4: this because I've had a hard time kind of like
[39:05] Speaker 4: figuring out who I really really want to be. I mean,
[39:07] Speaker 4: I've kind of naturally found who I'm overweighted and underweight on,
[39:10] Speaker 4: but like, I also want to get that a little
[39:12] Speaker 4: bit more even the where I'm at right now, Like
[39:14] Speaker 4: if you could look at two of those guys in
[39:15] Speaker 4: that running back to here, wh who you want to
[39:17] Speaker 4: be overweight on, and maybe two who you want to
[39:19] Speaker 4: be underweight on?
[39:20] Speaker 5: Who would those running backs be? Okay, well, we might
[39:23] Speaker 5: have a debate on our hands. Let me give it
[39:25] Speaker 5: one that I hope is not controversial, the one that
[39:28] Speaker 5: I'm most overweighth on that pocket of running back, The
[39:30] Speaker 5: one that I'm most confident about in like back of
[39:33] Speaker 5: round one early round two is Kenneth Walker. I have
[39:38] Speaker 5: some information that one of the reasons Kenneth, like Seattle
[39:42] Speaker 5: wanted they wanted to retain Kenneth Walker. But he was like,
[39:46] Speaker 5: you guys have been playing me behind Zach Sharpnett. You
[39:49] Speaker 5: guys have not giving me enough touches, I'm out. And
[39:51] Speaker 5: so even if the money was equal, he wanted to
[39:53] Speaker 5: go to a place that would feature him. That is
[39:56] Speaker 5: undoubtedly to me Kansas City. Who if defenses are going
[40:00] Speaker 5: to play this deep safety cover two stuff against Mahomes,
[40:05] Speaker 5: they need Kenneth Walker to just go absolutely nuts. So
[40:08] Speaker 5: the way that the Chiefs offense gets unlocked this year,
[40:10] Speaker 5: to me, is just a ton ton ton of Kenneth Walker.
[40:14] Speaker 5: And like they've had such dusty running backs, like I'm
[40:17] Speaker 5: not even sure Pacheco's an NFL player, Cream Hunt was
[40:19] Speaker 5: so withered. Andy Reid, when he actually has had really
[40:23] Speaker 5: good running backs, has gone nuts with them. And so
[40:26] Speaker 5: I think Kenneth Walker as a screen player, as a
[40:30] Speaker 5: explosive play guy, is just going to go absolutely berserk
[40:33] Speaker 5: for the Chiefs very good offensive line. So that's the
[40:36] Speaker 5: one I feel most confident. The other guy at the
[40:39] Speaker 5: top that I like is one you just mentioned you
[40:40] Speaker 5: didn't like, so I'm curious on this one. It is
[40:43] Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor.
[40:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, let me hear it. Before Daniel Jones injury.
[40:47] Speaker 5: Last season, Jonathan Taylor was Fantasy's MVP ye and I
[40:52] Speaker 5: think people like get lost in forgetting that. I also
[40:55] Speaker 5: think they do not like the backups get Ins and McGowan,
[40:58] Speaker 5: So people kind of tend to think of JT as
[41:00] Speaker 5: a two down back. He has been an extremely durable
[41:03] Speaker 5: for most part of his career. I think three down back,
[41:06] Speaker 5: we can catch a lot of passes. This is Brandon
[41:08] Speaker 5: Thorne's number six offensive line in the Colts. I'm a
[41:13] Speaker 5: little worried about Daniel Jones playing the level he played
[41:16] Speaker 5: at last year off the Achilles. It should be even
[41:19] Speaker 5: more JT, if that's even possible. So from a talent, explosive,
[41:23] Speaker 5: play workload, offensive line perspective, I thought JT was actually
[41:27] Speaker 5: pretty safe there in the back and round one. But
[41:29] Speaker 5: I'm curious to hear your your counter there right now.
[41:31] Speaker 5: I'm at like six percent JT. It's just not a
[41:33] Speaker 5: full fit.
[41:33] Speaker 4: So it's not But I do think that it's always
[41:36] Speaker 4: hard when you're when you're converting season long the best ball.
[41:38] Speaker 4: Because I did my draft guy, that's gonna be season
[41:40] Speaker 4: long focus. And if you're looking at like home league
[41:42] Speaker 4: type stuff, you know JT is going to be captured
[41:45] Speaker 4: more in that like CMC tier, then he will be
[41:49] Speaker 4: in that ladder tier. And so therefore that's where more
[41:53] Speaker 4: of like the fade idea comes from. Right. With that
[41:55] Speaker 4: being said, I get worried about number one, what Dimes
[41:59] Speaker 4: looks like. Of course, you know, coming off the injury
[42:02] Speaker 4: and the fact that like during that stretch they were
[42:04] Speaker 4: they were the best off They had the best offense
[42:06] Speaker 4: in football last year, Right, So I just see the
[42:09] Speaker 4: regression coming from an offensive standpoint in that way.
[42:12] Speaker 1: He's certainly going to get volume.
[42:14] Speaker 4: And so I don't think that he's like a bad
[42:16] Speaker 4: pick strictly because of that, but he's also been like
[42:19] Speaker 4: at most like more of that like eleven percent target
[42:21] Speaker 4: share player as opposed to that like fifteen percent target
[42:23] Speaker 4: share player. And so that's like the small edges whereas
[42:25] Speaker 4: like I look at a player like James Cook, for instance,
[42:29] Speaker 4: who could end up seeing like maybe not the exact
[42:32] Speaker 4: same amount of work on the ground as JT, but
[42:36] Speaker 4: there is that room for growth with James Cook within
[42:38] Speaker 4: his profile obviously a better offense, we felt feel better
[42:41] Speaker 4: about the offense, and if he does, because James Cook's
[42:44] Speaker 4: never been a ten percent target share player in his career, right,
[42:46] Speaker 4: And so you know, obviously there's the touchdown regression arguments
[42:49] Speaker 4: and such with Cook, which didn't happen a year over year.
[42:52] Speaker 4: But if he does see that like twelve thirteen, maybe
[42:55] Speaker 4: fourteen percent target, like, there's that room for growth, and
[42:58] Speaker 4: that's the kind of prospect he was comeing into.
[43:00] Speaker 1: The league too. Cook right like, he was supposed to
[43:02] Speaker 1: be that pass catcher. So that's why I like I
[43:04] Speaker 1: think Cook.
[43:05] Speaker 4: If I were like straight up to take one of
[43:07] Speaker 4: them in a full PPR format, I'm leaning Cook more
[43:10] Speaker 4: than JT. That's mainly the reason. JT's still like a
[43:14] Speaker 4: top five, top six running back for me. So I'm
[43:17] Speaker 4: not gonna like when it comes to those kinds of players.
[43:19] Speaker 4: It's really hard for me to be like, yo, you're
[43:21] Speaker 4: wrong about one of the best running backs that we've
[43:23] Speaker 4: seen over the last ten years. You know.
[43:25] Speaker 5: Yeah, And I say the same thing when people are like, oh,
[43:27] Speaker 5: I got a round twenty play for you, I'm like, yeah,
[43:29] Speaker 5: how bad can it be?
[43:29] Speaker 1: It's round twenty. You know. It's kind of a similar idea.
[43:31] Speaker 5: We have Jonathan Taylor tenth right now in DraftKings and
[43:35] Speaker 5: James Cook twelve, super super close. I don't disagree with
[43:38] Speaker 5: the James Cook stuff. I like him also, but these
[43:40] Speaker 5: starts that are like JT or James Cook and then
[43:44] Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker. You know, I get how you can get
[43:46] Speaker 5: really running back heavy with stuff like that.
[43:48] Speaker 1: I like those starts.
[43:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. And so the two
[43:51] Speaker 4: that you would then that you're scared of basically yeah,
[43:54] Speaker 4: I mean I kind of feel like this is in
[43:56] Speaker 4: line with Market. But the first one is I'm just
[43:59] Speaker 4: worried about eight Chan just from a systemic level. So
[44:03] Speaker 4: much of his production has come through the air. I
[44:06] Speaker 4: have major concerns about Malik Willis capturing that. And then
[44:10] Speaker 4: you have like they're going to be so bad. I mean,
[44:12] Speaker 4: this is one of the worst rosters I can ever remember.
[44:15] Speaker 4: It just makes me queasy, like, oh, he turns an
[44:17] Speaker 4: ankle late in the season, what's the point You're trying
[44:19] Speaker 4: to get the number one pick anyways?
[44:21] Speaker 5: Like why fight through it? So Hhan has been a
[44:24] Speaker 5: pretty easy fade for me. I know Market is kind
[44:26] Speaker 5: of on that as well. Let me just check ADP. Yeah,
[44:29] Speaker 5: Market's at eighteen on eight Chan right now. It opened
[44:32] Speaker 5: at like twelve, So Market's definitely been getting down on
[44:34] Speaker 5: him and the other one that makes me queasy fade,
[44:37] Speaker 5: But I do not have a lot of right now.
[44:38] Speaker 5: We are at twenty one overall on a Maryon Hampton
[44:43] Speaker 5: against an ADP of fourteen point eight. And it's just
[44:46] Speaker 5: from a math perspective, once you start giving stuff to
[44:48] Speaker 5: Keaton Mitchell, which I think you have to give a
[44:50] Speaker 5: little bit to Vidal, give a decent amount to the
[44:53] Speaker 5: tight end room, which is really strong. Give a decent
[44:55] Speaker 5: amount to the wide receiver room, which is strong. Slow
[44:58] Speaker 5: them down from Mike mcdan typical pace. It's hard to
[45:02] Speaker 5: get there from math perspective when I'm Maryon Hampton. That's
[45:04] Speaker 5: like my only argument though, because otherwise I want to
[45:06] Speaker 5: like a Marion Hampton. It's just really hard from math
[45:08] Speaker 5: perspective to get there on him at fourteenth overall.
[45:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally see that.
[45:12] Speaker 4: My thing with the way that I've kind of approached
[45:14] Speaker 4: the Chargers stuff that like in that individual draft, I'm
[45:18] Speaker 4: thinking to myself, you obviously see the outlook, like the
[45:20] Speaker 4: scenario where Hampton smashes right offensive line looks healthy and good.
[45:25] Speaker 4: We're bullish on the Chargers offense, like it's you can
[45:28] Speaker 4: see that outlook, And so I'm playing it as that
[45:32] Speaker 4: scenario hitting in the times that I get Hampton, which
[45:35] Speaker 4: I'm not going to be like massively overweight or anything.
[45:38] Speaker 4: And then I have a ton of Keaton Mitchell too
[45:40] Speaker 4: in the scenario that the Median hits and they are
[45:43] Speaker 4: splitting up that backfield, you know, in that way. But
[45:46] Speaker 4: I agree, like I think that that's the that's the
[45:48] Speaker 4: right kind of like I agree with Achan two Hans
[45:50] Speaker 4: one of those guys.
[45:51] Speaker 1: Is going to go higher in home leagues as well.
[45:52] Speaker 4: You know, he's more of that like back half of
[45:54] Speaker 4: the first round type of player in those in that format,
[45:57] Speaker 4: and I'm just I can't get there with.
[45:58] Speaker 5: No, that's an easy fate. I mean, there's so many
[46:00] Speaker 5: other options to take in the back half of the
[46:01] Speaker 5: first round than a Chen.
[46:02] Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk tight end real quick. Are you an
[46:06] Speaker 4: early round tight end guy on DraftKings or do you
[46:08] Speaker 4: wait and then? Is it like a or is it
[46:10] Speaker 4: like a brock Bowers or bus thing for you?
[46:12] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[46:13] Speaker 5: God, I feel like I've been results oriented with this.
[46:15] Speaker 5: Like one year I won one of the I think
[46:17] Speaker 5: I went like the DraftKings three to three three like
[46:19] Speaker 5: a few years ago, and I was all late round
[46:21] Speaker 5: tight end and I had Isaiah Likely who was like
[46:23] Speaker 5: a bench player all year, score like twenty for me
[46:25] Speaker 5: in the championship week.
[46:27] Speaker 1: And that was all I needed.
[46:28] Speaker 5: Then last year I had a really good advance rate
[46:30] Speaker 5: and lost almost all my teams in the five to
[46:32] Speaker 5: five to five because Kyle Pitts just shoved it right
[46:35] Speaker 5: down my esophagus.
[46:36] Speaker 1: So like I have been, like, you know, back and
[46:39] Speaker 1: forth on what to do with.
[46:40] Speaker 5: Tight end, I'll say this generally, I do think elite
[46:43] Speaker 5: tight end play is better on DraftKings. How do you
[46:46] Speaker 5: separate at tight end on DraftKings by catching a ton
[46:49] Speaker 5: of balls? Bowers, McBride, Lovelands, you know, just catching, racking
[46:53] Speaker 5: up catch volume on underdog touchdowns are so much more
[46:57] Speaker 5: of your scoring. I'm way less likely to say make
[47:00] Speaker 5: elite tight end there. But yeah, I like the Bowers
[47:03] Speaker 5: price on DraftKings. I've seen McBride slip to middle of
[47:06] Speaker 5: round three lately. I doubt I'm gonna pass on that there.
[47:10] Speaker 5: I think Colston Loveland is one of like the safest,
[47:13] Speaker 5: most straightforward like profiles to smash. But there's also other
[47:17] Speaker 5: pockets of the draft that I like. I think Fannin
[47:21] Speaker 5: is interesting. I think Kittle is interesting. You can even
[47:25] Speaker 5: start later, you know, Mark Andrews. I think is interesting,
[47:27] Speaker 5: Juwan Johnson, and then you can even start later and
[47:30] Speaker 5: go four. You know, I think Aconquo Hockinson, Gunner Helm,
[47:34] Speaker 5: Terrence Ferguson. I've done some more four tight end builds
[47:37] Speaker 5: this year than I have also, so I've tried all
[47:40] Speaker 5: over the place. It's tough. I do think the whole
[47:43] Speaker 5: idea of tight end to me is can you have
[47:46] Speaker 5: a guy that can get you thirty in the playoffs,
[47:49] Speaker 5: because you're probably need that, especially if you're playing the lotto.
[47:52] Speaker 5: If you're playing the twenty five dollars Lotto, somebody in
[47:55] Speaker 5: your pod is gonna have a tight end go for thirty.
[47:57] Speaker 1: You will you have that, cause it's.
[47:59] Speaker 5: Really hard to Matchlast year, Kyle Pitts gave me like
[48:01] Speaker 5: forty two and my tight ends all scored like nine,
[48:05] Speaker 5: and no matter how well the rest of my team did,
[48:07] Speaker 5: I was just dead, you know. So like that, you
[48:10] Speaker 5: just can't let that happen. And it's one slate. It's
[48:12] Speaker 5: hard to predict, but you just can't let that happen.
[48:14] Speaker 4: Yeah, I look, I had my I had a million
[48:16] Speaker 4: finals team last year that had Pits and then I
[48:18] Speaker 4: had Derrick Henry in the final. And it's just like
[48:20] Speaker 4: that was just It's not like I'm sitting there being like, yo,
[48:23] Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts is going to drop a forty burger right
[48:25] Speaker 4: when we need it. You know, it's just the stars aligned, right,
[48:27] Speaker 4: It's just a situation like that, And I think I
[48:30] Speaker 4: think you're right though, Like there's there's so many of those,
[48:34] Speaker 4: Like there's so many like relatively attractive pro I know
[48:36] Speaker 4: that we feel like we say this every year where
[48:38] Speaker 4: we're like tight ends deeper than usual, right, but like
[48:40] Speaker 4: there are some really because we got a really good
[48:42] Speaker 4: class last year, one of the best that we've seen
[48:44] Speaker 4: in a really long time. And then we even have
[48:46] Speaker 4: like the Terrence Ferguson dart throws from that class right
[48:49] Speaker 4: that that are still pretty attractive and interesting. So that's
[48:52] Speaker 4: boosting up and just kind of giving us more tight
[48:54] Speaker 4: end options. And then I even have been drafting like
[48:57] Speaker 4: Kenyan Sadiq because he falls on on on DK often
[49:00] Speaker 4: and so like I think because of that, I still
[49:02] Speaker 4: want to be overweight on Bowers, but I'm not as
[49:04] Speaker 4: much as I thought I was going to be because
[49:06] Speaker 4: there are these other outlets and.
[49:08] Speaker 5: The other part of it is the NFL meta stuff,
[49:10] Speaker 5: like you know, it's not Sadik versus Mason Taylor. They're
[49:13] Speaker 5: gonna play different positions. They can play at the same time,
[49:15] Speaker 5: you know, it's not Loveland verse comet. They can play
[49:18] Speaker 5: at the same time in a lot of formations. So
[49:20] Speaker 5: the way the NFL's going has allowed more tight end
[49:22] Speaker 5: bets to emerge.
[49:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
[49:24] Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to that fourth round wide
[49:27] Speaker 4: receiver range that I was kind of talking about earlier, Like,
[49:30] Speaker 4: I love the wide receivers in that range, are so
[49:32] Speaker 4: many good ones. You mentioned that you're still drafting some
[49:34] Speaker 4: running backs in there, which I am too. It's it's
[49:36] Speaker 4: gotten to this point where like I'm trying to force
[49:39] Speaker 4: it a little bit more because I get so enamored
[49:41] Speaker 4: with the wide outs that are there, but I'm trying
[49:43] Speaker 4: to get like more Javante or whomever you know is
[49:46] Speaker 4: there in that range. Is that how you're looking at it?
[49:48] Speaker 4: Or are you just leaning more wide receiver? Like how
[49:50] Speaker 4: do you how do you view that like third to
[49:52] Speaker 4: five round range?
[49:54] Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was just looking at the fourth round
[49:56] Speaker 5: and the guys that I take, the running backs that
[49:57] Speaker 5: I take consistently in the fourth round are Williams and
[50:01] Speaker 5: Travis Etn. I've gotten some crazy Travis Etn prices since
[50:04] Speaker 5: the Kamara news. You know, people are definitely spooked since
[50:07] Speaker 5: the Kamara news. I think Kamara is like dust and
[50:10] Speaker 5: they wanted to get rid of him, and they're just
[50:11] Speaker 5: like doing him a favor, which is the worst way
[50:13] Speaker 5: to run a business or a franchise. Like, look what
[50:15] Speaker 5: the Eagles did. They just cut guys like Brian Dawkins, gone,
[50:18] Speaker 5: Jeremi Tryer, like gone. You know, if it doesn't matter,
[50:21] Speaker 5: you've been a hero to the city for ten years.
[50:23] Speaker 5: Like they wanted to cut Kamara, they didn't have the
[50:25] Speaker 5: balls to do it. So I'm really not that worried
[50:27] Speaker 5: about the Kamara stuff. I think it does cap the
[50:29] Speaker 5: sealing outcome from a pass catching perspective a little bit, yeah, greetm.
[50:33] Speaker 5: But from a base case, I think Etn is totally fine.
[50:35] Speaker 5: And I like Javonte also like as part of the time,
[50:38] Speaker 5: So I do take those guys. I do prefer McMillan,
[50:42] Speaker 5: Burdon McLaurin to the running backs like Dave Montgomery, Swift
[50:48] Speaker 5: and Judgkins. So I'm like, really have very little of
[50:51] Speaker 5: those guys Montgomery, Swift, Junkins, and I have a lot
[50:54] Speaker 5: of Burden mcclaurin and a decent amount of of t MAC.
[50:58] Speaker 5: I think that's the range you're referring to. But yeah, yeah,
[51:00] Speaker 5: but yeah, I'm mixed in there a little bit. And yeah,
[51:03] Speaker 5: are there other wide receiver profiles that you really.
[51:05] Speaker 1: Like in that? In that round four ring? I like
[51:07] Speaker 1: Wattle a lot. I'm in the Wattle this year. Are
[51:10] Speaker 1: you Where are you at with Cam Scattabu? Are you?
[51:12] Speaker 4: Is he?
[51:13] Speaker 1: Is he part of your your consideration set? There? I
[51:15] Speaker 1: take him.
[51:16] Speaker 5: I definitely prefer ETN and Javonte though, But yeah, you know,
[51:19] Speaker 5: the health stuff. I'll keep watching the health stuff on scataboy.
[51:22] Speaker 5: But the way he scores fantasy points, I think is
[51:24] Speaker 5: the way he plays the game is very fantasy friendly
[51:26] Speaker 5: on Scattaboy, I think.
[51:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed.
[51:29] Speaker 4: I actually had this conversation with Kitchen like an hour
[51:32] Speaker 4: or two ago, where I was I was just looking
[51:33] Speaker 4: at my exposure. I was actually using the solver and
[51:36] Speaker 4: looking at some exposure stuff. And I've done ninety two
[51:39] Speaker 4: million drafts so far. I've only taken Judkins once. Oh,
[51:42] Speaker 4: and I'm a little bit nervous, but so I'm probably
[51:46] Speaker 4: gonna boot it up a little bit, But at the
[51:47] Speaker 4: same time, it's the same thing that you're talking about here, right,
[51:50] Speaker 4: Like it's just I get really scared about the potential.
[51:53] Speaker 4: Like I have a lot of Dylan Samson. I think
[51:55] Speaker 4: Samson's actually pretty good late click, and but it's this
[51:58] Speaker 4: like this potential one dimensional you know, early down type
[52:02] Speaker 4: back and a bad offense with a bad offensive line
[52:03] Speaker 4: at least with some of these other Like even if
[52:05] Speaker 4: that happens with Travis ETN because I agree, I think
[52:08] Speaker 4: America cap is receiving upset a little bit, but that
[52:11] Speaker 4: offense at least profiles will be better slash, that offensive
[52:13] Speaker 4: line could end up being really good this year, you know.
[52:15] Speaker 1: Like that that's where like the to me, the differences
[52:18] Speaker 1: between like a Judkins and an ETN type.
[52:20] Speaker 5: One hundred percent. And yeah, like I don't think it's
[52:21] Speaker 5: bad to go like people ask me all the time. Yeah,
[52:23] Speaker 5: if you're doing one fifty, I get wanting to like
[52:26] Speaker 5: not full fake. It's one slate, you know, Like how
[52:28] Speaker 5: many times you know you know it's one DFS slate?
[52:31] Speaker 5: Will you full fade a guy like all the time?
[52:33] Speaker 1: You know? So it's not if you think about it
[52:35] Speaker 1: like that.
[52:36] Speaker 5: I think if you if you don't like junkins, I
[52:37] Speaker 5: wouldn't force it, just like take your zero percent and pray,
[52:40] Speaker 5: you know, like shit, I love it.
[52:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right.
[52:43] Speaker 4: I want to I want to ask you about correlation,
[52:46] Speaker 4: uh in the playoffs. A lot of folks who have
[52:47] Speaker 4: been playing best ball who will obviously look and focus
[52:50] Speaker 4: at week seventeen correlation, But how do you view like
[52:53] Speaker 4: week fifteen and six I know Leoni's done some work
[52:56] Speaker 4: on this in the past as well. Is it something
[52:58] Speaker 4: that you're like actively looking And also I do want
[53:01] Speaker 4: to throw out there too as like kind of an
[53:02] Speaker 4: aside in your take, because this is more of like
[53:04] Speaker 4: industry related than anything else. Do you think that people
[53:08] Speaker 4: are not talking about week like like playoff week correlation
[53:12] Speaker 4: as much because of the tools that are out there,
[53:15] Speaker 4: you know, like the solver for instance, Like they're just
[53:17] Speaker 4: relying on it.
[53:17] Speaker 1: They know that it's there.
[53:18] Speaker 4: You know that you're getting a week fifteen or sixteen correlations.
[53:21] Speaker 4: You don't need to necessarily voice it and talk through
[53:24] Speaker 4: it as you're doing. I just think there's like an
[53:26] Speaker 4: interesting conversation there to be had.
[53:28] Speaker 5: I think when the when the data like and the
[53:30] Speaker 5: data is clear you can read Leoni's Best Ball manifesto,
[53:33] Speaker 5: like having week seventeen correlation helps once you get to
[53:37] Speaker 5: week seventeen period, you know, like it definitely helps. I
[53:40] Speaker 5: think that was somewhat novel when it first came out,
[53:43] Speaker 5: and it was like a really interesting thing and a
[53:45] Speaker 5: new thing to think through that people that doesn't correlate
[53:48] Speaker 5: to season long at all. I think now people are
[53:51] Speaker 5: realizing what herzigan I think and we disagree with Leoni
[53:53] Speaker 5: a little bit. Herzigan I worked on an article about
[53:56] Speaker 5: what people should think about when they're on the clock,
[53:59] Speaker 5: and we had week seventeen week sixteen weekfeedding correlation. We
[54:03] Speaker 5: had that as the last thing to think about behind
[54:06] Speaker 5: understanding draft capital by position. That's the most important stacking
[54:10] Speaker 5: adjusting your drafts for ADP player takes like to me
[54:13] Speaker 5: and her zig at least, all that is more important
[54:15] Speaker 5: than week seventeen correlations. So if I'm like really torn
[54:20] Speaker 5: between two players, I'll look at some correlation in the
[54:23] Speaker 5: playoff weeks. I'll definitely look at their playoff matchups and
[54:26] Speaker 5: what I expect the weather to be. But I do
[54:28] Speaker 5: not go into my pick thinking, oh man, I better
[54:31] Speaker 5: find some week seventeen correlation. You're like, I think that's
[54:33] Speaker 5: a pretty big mistake.
[54:34] Speaker 1: Period.
[54:35] Speaker 5: There's a lot of times though, especially we're doing a
[54:36] Speaker 5: lot of volume that like it's really close between two guys,
[54:39] Speaker 5: and week seventeen correlation would be a very good tie breaker.
[54:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I try to view it to It's
[54:44] Speaker 4: also easier like when you're in like the areas of
[54:47] Speaker 4: the draft that just aren't as you know, important, you know,
[54:50] Speaker 4: and you're in round eighteen or something like that, and
[54:52] Speaker 4: like it's easier to get a bring back because the
[54:54] Speaker 4: range of outcomes are crap anyway for you know, the
[54:57] Speaker 4: high end outcome for those guys anyway, So might.
[54:59] Speaker 1: As well try to But yeah, I agree.
[55:01] Speaker 4: But also like I do think that solver and such
[55:05] Speaker 4: like it makes it so much easier to not have
[55:07] Speaker 4: to really worry about that stuff.
[55:10] Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can display on the solver tool also
[55:12] Speaker 5: that JJ's referring to.
[55:13] Speaker 1: You can display the playoff matchups.
[55:15] Speaker 5: And you know, I don't like to predict how good
[55:18] Speaker 5: defenses are going to be for most of them, but
[55:21] Speaker 5: I know some defense can be really good and I
[55:22] Speaker 5: know some are going to be really bad. Like at
[55:24] Speaker 5: the tails, I actually think we can and should try
[55:27] Speaker 5: to predict which defenses are going to be really bad.
[55:30] Speaker 5: So so yeah, I think looking at the playoff schedule
[55:32] Speaker 5: is almost as important looking at the week seventeen correlations.
[55:35] Speaker 1: All right, Now that we're in the end.
[55:37] Speaker 4: Of the draft, and we talked about early stuff a
[55:39] Speaker 4: little bit, do you have any any favorite like like
[55:41] Speaker 4: late round, end of draft targets because everyone is always
[55:44] Speaker 4: always always hitting me up and asking about this.
[55:47] Speaker 5: It's so brutal because you know, if anyone talks about
[55:50] Speaker 5: guys at this time of year when there's no news
[55:53] Speaker 5: and you know, recording this July twenty eighth, for the
[55:56] Speaker 5: last month, there has been zero news and so if
[55:59] Speaker 5: you breathe on it, guy, he goes to like round
[56:01] Speaker 5: fifteen around sixteen. So I think it's been actually been
[56:04] Speaker 5: kind of a poor time to draft the last couple weeks.
[56:07] Speaker 5: Like I consider my biggest edge in this best ball
[56:10] Speaker 5: stuff reacting to news, and when there's no news, like, okay,
[56:13] Speaker 5: where's my edge if we're not reacting to news. So
[56:15] Speaker 5: I've tried to slow down my drafting a little bit
[56:17] Speaker 5: for now, guys that I've been taking back of draft lately.
[56:22] Speaker 5: I've been trying to get a lot of Tank Bigsby.
[56:24] Speaker 5: I think from a rankings perspective, and I know this
[56:26] Speaker 5: just from projections, the guys that have a little bit
[56:28] Speaker 5: of standalone value, like say a Pa Checko, are going
[56:31] Speaker 5: to project and rank a little bit better. But in
[56:34] Speaker 5: the event of what I actually want to happen, in
[56:37] Speaker 5: other words, there's an injury ahead. I think Tank Bigsy
[56:40] Speaker 5: could go absolutely berserk, and same.
[56:42] Speaker 1: With Ray Davis.
[56:43] Speaker 5: Like Bigsby and Ray Davis, if Saquon and or James
[56:47] Speaker 5: could go down, I think they're gonna go berserk. So
[56:49] Speaker 5: I like those one injury away guys at the back.
[56:52] Speaker 5: The gap between Trey Harris ADP and Quentin Johnson ADP
[56:55] Speaker 5: is just I don't get it. Trey Harris at one
[56:58] Speaker 5: eight and QJ at like seventy. I take Trey Harris
[57:01] Speaker 5: there every time I have like zero QJ. I was
[57:04] Speaker 5: taking the stribbling stuff before all this news yesterday, but
[57:07] Speaker 5: I'm sure people are gonna steam stripping he won the
[57:09] Speaker 5: thirteenth today and yeah, yeah, it's a joke. I'm my
[57:13] Speaker 5: most drafted player, which I don't even I don't even
[57:16] Speaker 5: it's all round twenty. I don't even feel great about it,
[57:19] Speaker 5: but Jalen Knowle is my most drafted player right now.
[57:24] Speaker 5: I thought on a per route basis, he was good
[57:26] Speaker 5: last year, and whereas Nico Collins and Jayden Higgins are
[57:30] Speaker 5: outside players in theory, Jalen Nole fits really well. My
[57:34] Speaker 5: concern is they love Xavier Hutchinson and they had chances
[57:38] Speaker 5: to use Jalen Nole last year and just didn't. But
[57:41] Speaker 5: he is my most drafted player right now. So yeah, Oh,
[57:44] Speaker 5: I think I had one more on here. Oh, Michael Mayer.
[57:47] Speaker 5: I don't normally do like one in your way tight ends,
[57:49] Speaker 5: but if brock Bauers goes down, Michael Mayer is going
[57:52] Speaker 5: to smash, and so I take that a lot.
[57:55] Speaker 1: Mayor might even have standalone value.
[57:57] Speaker 4: You know, he might give you like a couple of
[57:58] Speaker 4: just random you know, off weeks where he's usable. I
[58:01] Speaker 4: think that your note about the backup running back stuff
[58:04] Speaker 4: is one that like I really started to change my
[58:06] Speaker 4: tune on because I haven't really drafted much Pacheco at all,
[58:10] Speaker 4: just because I don't think the talent profile is good enough, right,
[58:13] Speaker 4: like you need Like, I think that's something that like
[58:15] Speaker 4: fantasy players get wrong often, is that like they just
[58:17] Speaker 4: think that oh, if you're in that RB two spot,
[58:19] Speaker 4: therefore you will get work if something. But you need
[58:21] Speaker 4: to be good, right, which is exactly why you're mentioning
[58:24] Speaker 4: a Tank Bigsby because it's peripheral like his. His his
[58:26] Speaker 4: secondary numbers were like great last year, you know, and
[58:29] Speaker 4: so like like, but what I think is really interesting
[58:31] Speaker 4: about that is that like people look at him as
[58:34] Speaker 4: a zero as you're saying, But realistically, the usability of
[58:37] Speaker 4: an Isaiah Pachecko type player is not any different than
[58:41] Speaker 4: the usability of a Tank Bigsby like player, because the
[58:43] Speaker 4: usability is like eight PPR points, you know, if they
[58:47] Speaker 4: if they are getting that like backup work, you know,
[58:49] Speaker 4: and maybe having a little bit more of a workloe
[58:51] Speaker 4: as a Bigsby. But obviously the upside is there for
[58:54] Speaker 4: for for the bigsb case, which is something I think
[58:56] Speaker 4: a lot of people just get wrong often.
[58:58] Speaker 5: Yeah, and like eight points is worth something in Best Ball,
[59:00] Speaker 5: but I think you're overestimated thing Pachecko can get eighty
[59:03] Speaker 5: eight points every week?
[59:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, for sure. What do you think
[59:07] Speaker 1: about nol am I crazy?
[59:09] Speaker 4: No? No, I like I like the nole call out.
[59:12] Speaker 4: I throw random darts at that. I mean because it's
[59:14] Speaker 4: a good backstack too. It's just easy if it's like
[59:16] Speaker 4: Stroudfalls and stuff like that.
[59:17] Speaker 1: I have a ton of NOL.
[59:18] Speaker 4: I like the Trey Harris call out a lot too.
[59:20] Speaker 4: I don't know if it was like because doesn't didn't
[59:22] Speaker 4: Silva one week just like up Quentin Johnston like crazy
[59:27] Speaker 4: like and I'm blaming the DK shift on Silva, just
[59:31] Speaker 4: going ham on Quentin Johnston.
[59:33] Speaker 1: Because there was like a two week period QJ was like.
[59:35] Speaker 4: In the nineties or something, and then he just goes
[59:37] Speaker 4: up to the six seven turn out of nowhere, and
[59:40] Speaker 4: so I'm not draft And the other weird thing is
[59:43] Speaker 4: like like I have QJ in the Draft guide as
[59:45] Speaker 4: a late round dart throw because he goes in the
[59:47] Speaker 4: late rounds and like every you know, like mainly you know,
[59:51] Speaker 4: Yahoo and ESPN and stuff on DraftKings, he's so early,
[59:54] Speaker 4: whereas Trey Harris, I'm at like he's one of my
[59:56] Speaker 4: highest roster wide receivers, right.
[59:58] Speaker 1: Though I don't get it. I don't, I honestly don't
[1:00:00] Speaker 1: get it on QJB.
[1:00:00] Speaker 5: But I don't eve want to tweet about it because
[1:00:01] Speaker 5: there's like a lot of QJ fans out there you know,
[1:00:03] Speaker 5: I don't need to hate.
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. I'm blaming Silva though, even
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: if it has nothing to do with Silva. I'm just
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: gonna fine, gonna.
[1:00:10] Speaker 4: Go that round, all right before I let you go
[1:00:12] Speaker 4: one one bold prediction, one fire take about this this
[1:00:15] Speaker 4: fantasy season.
[1:00:16] Speaker 5: Yes, I'll go with more of a real life take,
[1:00:18] Speaker 5: but obviously it flows through to fantasy. Bold prediction for
[1:00:21] Speaker 5: this year, Joe Burrow is the NFL's MVP. And the Bengals, Yes,
[1:00:26] Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals win the Super Bowl, finally have like
[1:00:31] Speaker 5: two legit stars on defense in DJ Turner and Dexter Lawrence.
[1:00:36] Speaker 5: Finally have what like Randon Thorne has them as number
[1:00:39] Speaker 5: fifteen offensive line could play even better than that. And
[1:00:43] Speaker 5: like every time Joe Burrow stays healthy, I'm like, this
[1:00:46] Speaker 5: could be the best best offense in the league. They
[1:00:48] Speaker 5: He's so good it's crazy, you know. And like, obviously
[1:00:51] Speaker 5: I'm mainly focused on DFS, and like every week that
[1:00:55] Speaker 5: Burrow is out there and healthy regardless of matchup, I'm like,
[1:00:59] Speaker 5: this stack has the ceiling to win the week. And
[1:01:01] Speaker 5: so I really like the Burrow Chase Chase Brown type
[1:01:08] Speaker 5: stuff this year and I mixed T Higgins in there also,
[1:01:11] Speaker 5: so yeah, I think Bengal's gonna be very good this year.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they've.
[1:01:14] Speaker 4: Continue any of the offensive line for like the first
[1:01:16] Speaker 4: time like ever for Burrow too, which is yeah, you know,
[1:01:19] Speaker 4: should be super super helpful. So love to take love
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