# Different Minds: The Wide World of Animal Smarts

An episode of [Science Talk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/122384595), 29 Apr 2016, 38 min.

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Primatologist Frans de Waal discusses his latest book, Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? (Norton, 2016). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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