# Churn, Baby, Churn

An episode of [2Bobs—with David C. Baker and Blair Enns](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1219490591), 4 Jan 2023, 30 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/2bobs/2Bobs154-Churn-Baby-Churn.mp3?dest-id=492492

David gets flack for his contrary perspective on how agencies shouldn't necessarily aim for long-term client relationships. So he clarifies how he's seen the the fear of both client and employee churn hold firms back. LINKS "Reboot Your Culture Through New Business" "Your Firm Should Be A Team—Not A Family" "The Problem of Standards" by David Maister Read the transcript and episode notes at http://2bobs.com/podcast/churn-baby-churn

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