# Episode 309: Nostradamus & the End of the World!

An episode of [The Best of Coast to Coast AM](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1206175991), 19 Sep 2026, 51 min.

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## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
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[1:00] Speaker 1: This is Strange Things with Joshua P.
[1:03] Speaker 3: Warren.
[1:09] Speaker 1: I am Joshua P. Warren, and each week on this show,
[1:12] Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind-blowing content, news exercises,
[1:16] Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
[1:20] Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show, Nostradamus and
[1:26] Speaker 1: the End of the World. You probably know that Nostradamus
[1:32] Speaker 1: was one of the most famous astrologers, psychics, seers to
[1:37] Speaker 1: ever live. His predictions are studied to this very day.
[1:43] Speaker 1: He lived in France. He was born in 1503. He
[1:49] Speaker 1: died in 1566 at age 62. I'm going to tell
[1:54] Speaker 1: you more about his life later. We're going to get
[1:58] Speaker 1: into some facts and truths best we can. But the
[2:01] Speaker 1: first time that I remember reading about Nostradamus is when
[2:04] Speaker 1: I was a kid. I got a book from the
[2:06] Speaker 1: occult section of the library. And it started with a
[2:11] Speaker 1: story that when Nostradamus died, he wanted to be entombed
[2:17] Speaker 1: in a church upright because he did not want anyone
[2:22] Speaker 1: to walk over his bones. And he also said he
[2:25] Speaker 1: never wanted his grave to be disturbed. And so he
[2:30] Speaker 1: was entombed. He was sealed, laid to rest, and all
[2:34] Speaker 1: was fine for 134 years. 134 years after he died,
[2:42] Speaker 1: some officials at the church decided to move his tomb
[2:45] Speaker 1: to a more prominent place. And so they opened it up.
[2:51] Speaker 1: They opened his casket, if you will. And there they
[2:56] Speaker 1: found not only his skeleton, but also a metal plate
[3:01] Speaker 1: or medallion on his chest. And that metal plate or
[3:04] Speaker 1: medallion bore the exact date. that they opened up his tomb.
[3:13] Speaker 1: As if he knew 134 years before when that was
[3:17] Speaker 1: going to happen. They freaked out and they closed it
[3:22] Speaker 1: back up. Now, that was the first story I heard
[3:26] Speaker 1: about Nostradamus. Historians now believe that that is just a
[3:31] Speaker 1: legend and that's probably not true. I don't know. But
[3:35] Speaker 1: it definitely goes to show the mystique around the reputation
[3:41] Speaker 1: of this man, who was a real man who made
[3:43] Speaker 1: real predictions. This is not some legendary character like Merlin
[3:47] Speaker 1: or something like that. And as a matter of fact,
[3:51] Speaker 1: it turns out that if you're visiting France or whatever,
[3:55] Speaker 1: you can still go and see the tomb of Nostradamus.
[3:59] Speaker 1: I've never been to France, but I guarantee you that
[4:02] Speaker 1: if I do go, that will be on my list
[4:04] Speaker 1: of things to do. How interesting to visit the tomb.
[4:08] Speaker 1: the tomb of Nostradamus. So in this podcast, though, I'm
[4:12] Speaker 1: going to try to tell you more of what we
[4:14] Speaker 1: actually know about the guy and what his work actually
[4:17] Speaker 1: said and what we can and cannot believe and where
[4:20] Speaker 1: this is all leading when it comes to, well, us
[4:23] Speaker 1: and the end of the world, the end of civilization
[4:25] Speaker 1: as we know it. On a side note, I will
[4:29] Speaker 1: tell you that many years ago, I think this was
[4:31] Speaker 1: back maybe around 2012 or George Norrie invited me to
[4:37] Speaker 1: be a guest on his Gaia television show called Beyond Belief,
[4:45] Speaker 1: which films in Boulder, Colorado. This is one of the
[4:48] Speaker 1: first episodes. So I flew to Boulder by myself. It
[4:52] Speaker 1: was actually the first time I'd been to Boulder, Colorado,
[4:54] Speaker 1: I think. And they put me up in this big
[4:57] Speaker 1: old fancy hotel, haunted hotel, of course, very fittingly. And, uh,
[5:04] Speaker 1: So I got in the day before and I wasn't
[5:06] Speaker 1: going to meet with anybody from the crew until the
[5:08] Speaker 1: next day. So after I got checked in, put my
[5:12] Speaker 1: baggage in my room and everything, my luggage. So I
[5:15] Speaker 1: went down to sort of explore the hotel. And at
[5:17] Speaker 1: one point I was at the bottom of a staircase
[5:19] Speaker 1: and I looked up and I saw this thin man
[5:22] Speaker 1: standing there with a long beard and a funny little cap.
[5:29] Speaker 1: He looked like Nostradamus. That's what Nostradamus looked like. And
[5:35] Speaker 1: I knew instantly that this man was John Hogue. And
[5:39] Speaker 1: if you've listened to Coast to Coast AM over the years,
[5:41] Speaker 1: you know who John Hogue is. He is the world's
[5:45] Speaker 1: foremost expert on Nostradamus. And his books have been bestsellers.
[5:51] Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. I don't know how many
[5:53] Speaker 1: books he's written. He's been all over the TV shows.
[5:56] Speaker 1: I mean, like, he's the guy that you go to.
[6:00] Speaker 1: for Nostradamus, not just like biography stuff, but also, I mean,
[6:05] Speaker 1: John Hogue does his own work with prophecy and predictions
[6:08] Speaker 1: and uses some of the techniques that Nostradamus used. We'll
[6:10] Speaker 1: talk about that also in a minute. At least I will.
[6:14] Speaker 1: And so I go, oh my gosh, I've always wanted
[6:19] Speaker 1: to meet this dude. So I walked up to John
[6:22] Speaker 1: Hogue and introduced myself. He was super nice. We hit
[6:25] Speaker 1: it off immediately. And we made arrangements to meet up
[6:28] Speaker 1: later in the evening. at this dim bar down in
[6:33] Speaker 1: the basement to have drinks. And so sure enough, we
[6:39] Speaker 1: meet up in this bar and John Hogue and I
[6:42] Speaker 1: sat there in the corner of this old hotel bar
[6:51] Speaker 1: drinking gin probably till one or two in the morning.
[6:54] Speaker 1: Even though we had to be up the next morning
[6:57] Speaker 1: and do this show, it didn't matter. It was one
[6:59] Speaker 1: of the most fascinating conversations I've ever had. There's no
[7:02] Speaker 1: telling how much I would pay to have a recording
[7:04] Speaker 1: of that conversation. And we just got into all kinds
[7:08] Speaker 1: of amazing topics. And he was great at, you know,
[7:12] Speaker 1: he really knows the truth about Nostradamus. He studied not
[7:16] Speaker 1: just the myth and the legend, but, you know, the
[7:19] Speaker 1: facts behind it. And so I learned a lot by
[7:22] Speaker 1: talking to him. And I just want to go ahead
[7:26] Speaker 1: and preface what I'm going to do in this podcast
[7:28] Speaker 1: by telling you, like, if you really want to know
[7:30] Speaker 1: the scoop on Nostradamus, read some books by John Hogue.
[7:35] Speaker 1: John Hogue's last name is spelled H. Well, his first
[7:37] Speaker 1: name is J-O-H-N. And the last name is H-O-G-U-E. And
[7:43] Speaker 1: his website is HogueProphecy.com. This guy, he's the guy who
[7:48] Speaker 1: can really tell you. So I'm going to do my
[7:50] Speaker 1: best to. As a non-Nostradamus expert, to give you some
[7:56] Speaker 1: information about the guy's life. Because, as I mentioned, Nostradamus
[8:04] Speaker 1: was born in 1503, died in 1566, age 62. I'll
[8:11] Speaker 1: tell you a little bit more about how he died
[8:13] Speaker 1: and all that. But he was born to a prominent family.
[8:19] Speaker 1: You see, Nostradamus... He wasn't just an astrologer and a seer.
[8:26] Speaker 1: He was a prominent physician as well. And in fact,
[8:31] Speaker 1: he came from a prominent family because his grandfather was
[8:35] Speaker 1: a doctor. And his grandfather actually taught Nostradamus a lot
[8:41] Speaker 1: of stuff when he was growing up about, you know,
[8:45] Speaker 1: science and chemistry and all that. And then Nostradamus's father,
[8:51] Speaker 1: I believe, worked in finance. So Nostradamus was able to
[8:54] Speaker 1: end up going to some good schools. And his family
[8:59] Speaker 1: was actually of Jewish descent. But at some point they
[9:04] Speaker 1: converted to Catholicism, supposedly because they wanted to avoid some
[9:10] Speaker 1: persecution at the time. And when they converted to Catholicism,
[9:19] Speaker 1: they chose the name Nostradam, which translates to Our Lady.
[9:26] Speaker 1: And then later, Nostradam became Nostradamus because that was a
[9:33] Speaker 1: Latinized version of the name, which was what doctors and
[9:36] Speaker 1: prominent people used mainly back then. So his name was
[9:39] Speaker 1: Michel de Nostradam and Latinized as Nostradamus. So, As he
[9:49] Speaker 1: grew up and he was able to get special access
[9:52] Speaker 1: to education and he started studying medicine, he started rising
[9:59] Speaker 1: up through the ranks. And he was working quite a bit,
[10:06] Speaker 1: doing very well, apparently, as not only a doctor, but
[10:10] Speaker 1: an apothecary, which was actually a trade that was kind
[10:13] Speaker 1: of frowned upon at the time, dealing with various herbs
[10:16] Speaker 1: and healing things like that. And everything took a drastic
[10:21] Speaker 1: change when there was an outbreak of the bubonic plague.
[10:26] Speaker 1: You know, there were a number of outbreaks of the plague.
[10:30] Speaker 1: And so here he was, a relatively young man, and
[10:36] Speaker 1: I think he was maybe in his 30s or something
[10:38] Speaker 1: like that. And he decided to go out and travel
[10:42] Speaker 1: around Europe and treat people for the bubonic plague. Now,
[10:48] Speaker 1: what's interesting, you know how you've seen these pictures, these
[10:51] Speaker 1: plague doctors who would wear a mask that looked like
[10:54] Speaker 1: it had a big, long bird beak on it? Well,
[10:56] Speaker 1: they would wear that because they would stuff that beak
[10:59] Speaker 1: with all kinds of different little herbs and spices and
[11:03] Speaker 1: flowers and things as a filter. Because back then, they
[11:07] Speaker 1: thought the plague was being spread by foul air, foul fumes.
[11:12] Speaker 1: And during his time, I don't know if they were
[11:15] Speaker 1: using that, but he knew at that time that he
[11:17] Speaker 1: thought it was not due to that. He was actually
[11:22] Speaker 1: using techniques from the future, giving people fresh air. He
[11:27] Speaker 1: did not want to bloodlet people. He taught people about hygiene.
[11:34] Speaker 1: He was already ahead of his time in how he
[11:36] Speaker 1: was treating people. And yet, tragically, while he was traveling abroad,
[11:41] Speaker 1: his wife and two kids died of the plague. He
[11:46] Speaker 1: wasn't there to save them. He never got over that
[11:48] Speaker 1: the rest of his life. Okay. When we come back,
[11:49] Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you more about the life of
[11:52] Speaker 1: Nostradamus and then how he became this great prophet. A
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[13:14] Speaker 3: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
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[13:35] Speaker 1: I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren.
[13:39] Speaker 1: Beaming into your wormhole brain... From my studio in Sin City,
[13:44] Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is golden and every
[13:48] Speaker 1: night is silver, Agitato Zume! Yeah, how sad, right? Nostradamus,
[13:57] Speaker 1: he was ahead of his time as a doctor. And,
[14:03] Speaker 1: you know, here's this horrible outbreak of the bubonic plague. And,
[14:09] Speaker 1: you know, this is the 1530s, I guess. And he's
[14:13] Speaker 1: traveling across France. All these other doctors, they're bloodletting people.
[14:19] Speaker 1: They're covering their mouths because they don't want to breathe
[14:21] Speaker 1: in the foul air. When, in fact, the bubonic plague
[14:26] Speaker 1: was spread by fleas on rodents. So it had nothing
[14:30] Speaker 1: to do with breathing in the air, apparently. But I
[14:34] Speaker 1: don't know what made him feel so confident that he
[14:38] Speaker 1: could go around and treat this. and use totally different techniques.
[14:43] Speaker 1: Fresh air. He says, no, we want to breathe fresh air.
[14:46] Speaker 1: We need sanitation. We need to stop bloodletting. We need
[14:50] Speaker 1: a quick burial of the dead. And then while he's
[14:56] Speaker 1: out there doing all that work, his wife and two
[14:58] Speaker 1: kids die.
[15:00] Speaker 3: Terrible.
[15:01] Speaker 1: He did remarry later and had a lot of kids,
[15:04] Speaker 1: but that definitely haunted him. Well, you know, for whatever reason,
[15:12] Speaker 1: In the year 1550, he decided to write an almanac,
[15:15] Speaker 1: just like any other almanac that has predictions for, you know,
[15:19] Speaker 1: the weather and harvest times and maybe a little old
[15:24] Speaker 1: sage advice and that kind of stuff. And it turns
[15:27] Speaker 1: out that this was a big success. This almanac sold
[15:29] Speaker 1: very well. And so he continued writing almanacs, and he
[15:34] Speaker 1: would include astrology in there. He was very, very interested
[15:38] Speaker 1: in that. And eventually his reputation spread so much that
[15:43] Speaker 1: a lot of very prominent people around France, you know,
[15:45] Speaker 1: wealthy patrons, started coming and hiring him to be a
[15:49] Speaker 1: private advisor, including even Catherine de' Medici, the queen. And
[15:57] Speaker 1: she was a big supporter of his. And so as
[16:00] Speaker 1: his reputation grew, he finally decided to start branching more
[16:04] Speaker 1: and more out into what he wanted to write, which
[16:06] Speaker 1: was predictions, prophecies. for the far future. And he published
[16:13] Speaker 1: a book in 1555, which is called The Prophecies in English,
[16:19] Speaker 1: better known as The Centuries. The Centuries was a breakdown
[16:26] Speaker 1: of all of these different predictions about what would happen
[16:30] Speaker 1: in the future of humankind. He wrote them in quatrains,
[16:36] Speaker 1: which are little four-line verses. And a lot of people
[16:40] Speaker 1: have wondered why that his quatrains were kind of vague
[16:44] Speaker 1: instead of coming right out and being super specific. And supposedly,
[16:50] Speaker 1: he said, well, okay, there's two reasons for this. Number one,
[16:52] Speaker 1: despite the fact that he was being endorsed by a
[16:54] Speaker 1: lot of powerful people, there was still an inquisition out there,
[16:58] Speaker 1: and he still could have been accused of witchcraft if
[17:01] Speaker 1: he'd been writing things that were too darn specific and
[17:04] Speaker 1: on the nose, and he could have been executed for that. Secondly...
[17:09] Speaker 1: He was worried about influencing the future, that if you
[17:16] Speaker 1: point out something and you're very specific about what it's
[17:19] Speaker 1: going to happen and when it's going to happen and
[17:20] Speaker 1: who it's going to happen to, well, then that gives
[17:23] Speaker 1: people an opportunity to change what they do. And he
[17:26] Speaker 1: apparently did not want to do that. He decided to
[17:29] Speaker 1: write in a manner in which people could look back.
[17:32] Speaker 1: I guess maybe very insightful people might be able to
[17:35] Speaker 1: understand what he's saying in advance and use it. But
[17:38] Speaker 1: it's not for the average dummy. But in retrospect, you
[17:42] Speaker 1: might be able to go and look back on it. Now,
[17:44] Speaker 1: that's the way that people who believe the work of
[17:46] Speaker 1: Nostradamus view it. Of course, people who are very skeptical
[17:51] Speaker 1: debunker types are like, look, this guy was just writing
[17:53] Speaker 1: a bunch of nonsense, and it's hit or miss. Once
[17:56] Speaker 1: in a while, he got something right. Once in a while,
[17:58] Speaker 1: he didn't. It's all vague interpretation. But essentially, what he
[18:03] Speaker 1: would do is sit in a– dimly lit room all
[18:08] Speaker 1: by himself for hours in the evening. And primarily, he
[18:14] Speaker 1: would stare into a brass bowl that was hanging from
[18:22] Speaker 1: a brass tripod, and the bowl was full of water.
[18:26] Speaker 1: This is what we call scrying. And he would stare
[18:29] Speaker 1: into that water and meditate. And eventually he would see
[18:34] Speaker 1: visions within this water or somehow this water would trigger
[18:37] Speaker 1: visions within his mind. I also read somewhere that it's
[18:42] Speaker 1: possible he may have created some sulfurous fumes or something
[18:45] Speaker 1: like that to create a little haze in the air
[18:47] Speaker 1: from time to time. I don't know if that's true
[18:49] Speaker 1: or not. He never was extremely explicit about what he did,
[18:52] Speaker 1: but we know he did stare into this metal bowl
[18:56] Speaker 1: of water. And you have to remember, this is a time,
[18:58] Speaker 1: you know, this is the 1500s. There wasn't radio. There
[19:03] Speaker 1: were no TV shows to watch. I'm sure he'd read
[19:06] Speaker 1: all of his books. I mean, he had plenty of
[19:09] Speaker 1: time to sit there and stare at this bowl of
[19:12] Speaker 1: water and get these visions, which he then wrote down.
[19:17] Speaker 1: And that's how we end up with the bulk of
[19:20] Speaker 1: these prophecies that we talk so much about. Now, this
[19:26] Speaker 1: is a podcast, so I'm just going to hit some
[19:29] Speaker 1: highlights for you. But if you find this interesting, you
[19:32] Speaker 1: can go and you can really dig deep into all this.
[19:35] Speaker 1: But let me give you some examples of some of
[19:38] Speaker 1: his most famous predictions. All right. For one thing, he
[19:44] Speaker 1: wrote in his centuries of a young lion. overcoming an
[19:51] Speaker 1: older one in a single combat on the battlefield, piercing
[19:57] Speaker 1: his eye through a golden cage. And right around that time,
[20:07] Speaker 1: King Henry II, was in a jousting match, and he
[20:12] Speaker 1: was wearing apparently a golden visor, and his opponent splintered,
[20:22] Speaker 1: let's see, a splinter from his opponent's weapon pierced the
[20:25] Speaker 1: visor and killed the king. So that was one of
[20:28] Speaker 1: the first things that people thought was compelling. He then
[20:33] Speaker 1: also talked about What may be the Great Fire of
[20:37] Speaker 1: London that happened in 1666. He talked about the blood
[20:41] Speaker 1: of the just and the great fire of 23 the 6.
[20:47] Speaker 1: And if you do 20 times 3, that gives you 6.
[20:49] Speaker 1: 20 times 3 plus 6 equals 6 6. So that
[20:53] Speaker 1: was 1666 when the blaze occurred. All right. This is
[21:02] Speaker 1: the one that really stands out for people, though. This
[21:04] Speaker 1: is like the craziest one of all. This is the
[21:07] Speaker 1: one that I think he's most famous for nowadays. The
[21:10] Speaker 1: rise of Adolf Hitler. And here is what he actually wrote.
[21:14] Speaker 1: And I mean, this one is absolutely chilling. He wrote
[21:19] Speaker 1: from the depths of West of Europe. A young child
[21:25] Speaker 1: will be born of poor people. He who by his tongue.
[21:30] Speaker 1: will seduce a great troop. His fame will increase toward
[21:35] Speaker 1: the realm of the East. Beasts, ferocious with hunger, will
[21:42] Speaker 1: cross the rivers. The greater part of the battlefield will
[21:46] Speaker 1: be against Hister. Into a cage of iron will the
[21:53] Speaker 1: Great One be drawn when the child of Germany observes nothing. Whoa.
[22:00] Speaker 1: Now that one kind of gives me goosebumps. Hitler, I
[22:07] Speaker 1: think the main thing is that he says Hister. He
[22:11] Speaker 1: names this villain as Hister and talks about this happening
[22:16] Speaker 1: in Germany. A young child born of poor people by
[22:23] Speaker 1: his tongue will seduce a great troop. I mean like
[22:26] Speaker 1: crossing the river's I mean, you can easily see how
[22:32] Speaker 1: you can interpret that as being an excellent poetic description
[22:39] Speaker 1: of what happened during the Third Reich. And that was
[22:45] Speaker 1: the one that really stood out for me most when
[22:48] Speaker 1: I started trying to see if I believed in the
[22:51] Speaker 1: predictions of Nostradamus.
[22:52] Speaker 3: Yes.
[22:53] Speaker 1: Also the atomic bomb and one of his prophecies, he
[22:56] Speaker 1: mentions scourges within the two cities, the like of which
[23:01] Speaker 1: was never seen. And there are things there that point
[23:05] Speaker 1: to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. A lot of people say that
[23:11] Speaker 1: he predicted the September 11th attacks. So, you know, look,
[23:20] Speaker 1: when you start reading through his stuff, I can understand
[23:24] Speaker 1: why people say, look, you can interpret this many different ways.
[23:29] Speaker 1: And it's easy to just say this guy was tossing
[23:32] Speaker 1: stuff out there, but nothing was actually going– there was
[23:38] Speaker 1: nothing so specific that we could say this guy had
[23:41] Speaker 1: some miraculous ability to just specifically pinpoint things that are
[23:44] Speaker 1: going to happen. But there is enough to his writing
[23:48] Speaker 1: that can be interpreted retrospectively as that it does make
[23:52] Speaker 1: you think it's possible that what they claim is true,
[23:56] Speaker 1: that he could have been more specific, but that he
[23:59] Speaker 1: was afraid of being persecuted because they were burning people
[24:03] Speaker 1: like him at the stake under certain circumstances back then.
[24:06] Speaker 1: He was fortunate to have some powerful people who protected him.
[24:09] Speaker 1: All right. So, again, if you want to dig more
[24:12] Speaker 1: into specific prophecies, I've just given you a little– I've
[24:16] Speaker 1: whet your appetite there. So, fine. What– did he say
[24:21] Speaker 1: about the end of the world? That's the big question.
[24:24] Speaker 1: The $ 64, 000 question. What did he say about the end
[24:28] Speaker 1: of the world?
[24:30] Speaker 3: Okay.
[24:30] Speaker 1: We're going to take, we're going to take a break.
[24:32] Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm going to tell you the
[24:36] Speaker 1: answer to that question. And I'm also going to tell
[24:40] Speaker 1: you about a scrying technique that I used one time,
[24:45] Speaker 1: trying to kind of emulate what Nostradamus was doing in
[24:49] Speaker 1: And I had some pretty surprising success. I'm going to
[24:52] Speaker 1: tell you what I did and how I did it
[24:55] Speaker 1: so you can do it yourself if you want to
[24:57] Speaker 1: see if you might be able to get some visions
[25:00] Speaker 1: of the future, even if it's just your future, just like, well,
[25:04] Speaker 1: Nostradamus did. I'm Joshua P.
[25:06] Speaker 2: Warren.
[25:07] Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
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[25:14] Speaker 1: after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things Radio.
[25:53] Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network.
[25:59] Speaker 1: I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, and this is the
[26:01] Speaker 1: show where the unusual becomes usual. Another of the books
[26:07] Speaker 1: I read when I was a kid that really impressed me,
[26:10] Speaker 1: where I first learned about Nostradamus, one of my favorite
[26:13] Speaker 1: big hardback books, Reader's Digest, Mysteries of the Unexplained. If
[26:19] Speaker 1: you can ever get a copy of that, Do it.
[26:23] Speaker 1: It belongs in your library. I have been trying to
[26:26] Speaker 1: get a hold of somebody at Reader's Digest to interview.
[26:30] Speaker 1: And I don't do a lot of interviews, as you know.
[26:32] Speaker 1: This is not an interview show. But occasionally I will.
[26:36] Speaker 1: And I'd like to interview somebody at Reader's Digest about
[26:39] Speaker 1: the history and the future of the publication. I think
[26:42] Speaker 1: that would be great. But I've contacted them a couple times,
[26:45] Speaker 1: haven't heard back. So if you know somebody at Reader's Digest...
[26:49] Speaker 1: who might want to come on the show, I would
[26:52] Speaker 1: love that. Just email me, go to joshuapwarren.com, and you'll
[26:57] Speaker 1: find my email address on the homepage there. You know, Nostradamus,
[27:03] Speaker 1: he lived to the age of 62, and he suffered
[27:10] Speaker 1: toward the end of his life with terrible gout. Gout
[27:15] Speaker 1: is a form of inflammatory arthritis. characterized by recurrent attacks
[27:21] Speaker 1: of pain in a red, tender, hot, and swollen joint.
[27:29] Speaker 1: And this made movement for him very, very difficult. He
[27:34] Speaker 1: eventually summoned up his lawyer to draw up an extensive
[27:38] Speaker 1: will and bequeathed his property, which at that time, they say,
[27:45] Speaker 1: he had in his account approximately... what today would be
[27:50] Speaker 1: 300,000 U.S. dollars. And he bequeathed that to his various
[27:58] Speaker 1: family members. And then on the evening of July 1st
[28:04] Speaker 1: of 1566, he told his secretary, you will not find
[28:09] Speaker 1: me alive at sunrise. And as he predicted the next morning,
[28:14] Speaker 1: he was found dead lying on the floor next to
[28:17] Speaker 1: his bed and a bench. So what did he say
[28:23] Speaker 1: about the end for the rest of us? Well, you know,
[28:26] Speaker 1: you hear all these things on the internet about predictions
[28:30] Speaker 1: for the end of time, whether it comes from the Bible,
[28:34] Speaker 1: the book of Revelations, even though the Bible actually says
[28:37] Speaker 1: that no human will know when these certain things will happen.
[28:42] Speaker 1: But in this particular case, a lot of people say, oh,
[28:47] Speaker 1: here's a Nostradamus prediction about the end of the world.
[28:50] Speaker 1: And look, it's coming true. Well, here is the irony.
[28:56] Speaker 1: Nostradamus never actually predicted the end of the world, per se. Instead,
[29:04] Speaker 1: his writings point to a year, which is the final
[29:07] Speaker 1: horizon for humanity. And the question becomes, does that mean
[29:14] Speaker 1: this is the end of the world? Or does this
[29:17] Speaker 1: mean this is as far as he could foresee? His
[29:23] Speaker 1: last quatrains are very vague, talking about wars, political turmoil,
[29:31] Speaker 1: and natural disasters. But the year that is named as
[29:37] Speaker 1: the final year for which he commenced, see anything is
[29:43] Speaker 1: the year 3797. So that means as I record this
[29:45] Speaker 1: podcast here in 2026, that would be 1,771 years from now.
[30:00] Speaker 1: So you may or may not be happy about that.
[30:05] Speaker 1: I know some of you want to see the world
[30:07] Speaker 1: in tomorrow and your world.
[30:09] Speaker 3: Don't worry.
[30:09] Speaker 1: Your world will end much sooner than that. But as
[30:13] Speaker 1: far as the world, uh, he is saying like he
[30:17] Speaker 1: can see events happening all the way to 3797. And
[30:21] Speaker 1: you might say, well, gosh, that's unimaginable. 1,771 years from now.
[30:24] Speaker 1: But on the other hand, um, Look how long humans
[30:31] Speaker 1: have been around, supposedly. In our current form, hundreds of
[30:36] Speaker 1: thousands of years. In some primitive form, maybe a million
[30:39] Speaker 1: years or something like that. So, as much as you
[30:46] Speaker 1: might want to think that we are living in the
[30:48] Speaker 1: end times, and that we are going to see some
[30:51] Speaker 1: great rapture happen, or something that's going to open the
[30:56] Speaker 1: curtain and let us see behind the scenes... Well, that
[31:00] Speaker 1: may not be the case. And it also may, you know,
[31:02] Speaker 1: if we still have thousands of years of humanity left
[31:05] Speaker 1: before we eventually destroy ourselves, then who knows, maybe that
[31:09] Speaker 1: might explain some of these extraterrestrial visitations and, you know,
[31:15] Speaker 1: time travelers from the future, that kind of thing, that
[31:18] Speaker 1: advanced technology that we witness. So he never came right
[31:24] Speaker 1: out and said, this is the end. And so don't
[31:28] Speaker 1: believe it if you if you read people who are
[31:31] Speaker 1: spreading these types of memes and stuff about that, but
[31:35] Speaker 1: even if it is the end, that's a long way off.
[31:40] Speaker 1: So I think it's, it's more important for you to
[31:42] Speaker 1: focus on your life, right? Instead of the end of
[31:47] Speaker 1: the world and doom and gloom and apocalyptic things, think
[31:49] Speaker 1: about your life. The other day I asked my wife, Lauren,
[31:53] Speaker 1: I said, Lauren, what do you think the meaning of
[31:55] Speaker 1: life is? And she said, to distill the human spirit
[32:00] Speaker 1: through suffering. I thought, well, okay, it sounds pretty good.
[32:06] Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I guess because we do, we
[32:11] Speaker 1: all have to suffer like it or not. And I
[32:14] Speaker 1: guess it's part of how you deal with suffering because you,
[32:17] Speaker 1: you may do everything right, but you still have to
[32:19] Speaker 1: suffer when you watch your loved ones die and life
[32:21] Speaker 1: goes on. Not to get too morbid on you here, but, um,
[32:27] Speaker 1: There's a guy I watch who lives here in Vegas.
[32:29] Speaker 1: He has a YouTube channel. His name is Video Bob,
[32:32] Speaker 1: Video Bob Mosley. And he pretty much posts his life
[32:36] Speaker 1: like he does a video every single day. And a
[32:39] Speaker 1: couple of days ago, I was watching his channel and
[32:41] Speaker 1: he was driving home from a restaurant at night and
[32:48] Speaker 1: he saw there was a terrible car wreck. So he
[32:50] Speaker 1: pulled over on the side of the road and he
[32:52] Speaker 1: filmed it from afar. And even though this was nighttime,
[32:55] Speaker 1: I mean, you could see all the details very well.
[32:57] Speaker 1: You know how these cameras are these days. And so
[33:01] Speaker 1: this car had just been in a terrible accident. And
[33:05] Speaker 1: there are all these EMT and firemen around. And it
[33:08] Speaker 1: was so bad that when he started filming, one of
[33:12] Speaker 1: the first responders was doing chest compressions on whoever was
[33:18] Speaker 1: in the passenger side of the car. They hadn't even
[33:20] Speaker 1: taken the person out of the car. And so they're
[33:25] Speaker 1: really working on this person. And then finally, they get
[33:27] Speaker 1: the person out of the car. And then the first
[33:31] Speaker 1: responders on top of them, pumping, pumping, pumping. And by
[33:35] Speaker 1: the way, if you ever have to do that, you
[33:39] Speaker 1: may or may not know this. They say you should
[33:42] Speaker 1: do it. Just remember this. the beat to the song
[33:46] Speaker 1: staying alive. They say that ironically, that happens to be,
[33:55] Speaker 1: I guess you like, that's the rate. Just imagine that
[34:00] Speaker 1: song playing in your head. And every time you, and
[34:02] Speaker 1: you're just pushing as hard as you can on that
[34:05] Speaker 1: heart with that, with that beat. And they say, that's
[34:07] Speaker 1: how you do chest compressions. So anyway, the, they take
[34:11] Speaker 1: the person out of the car, finally get them on
[34:13] Speaker 1: the ground, do chest compressions, chest compressions. And then finally
[34:19] Speaker 1: they take out a blanket and put it over top
[34:21] Speaker 1: of the body. And you're like, Oh my God, you've
[34:24] Speaker 1: just watched the person die right here. And especially for him,
[34:29] Speaker 1: you know, cause he's there in person, but even when
[34:31] Speaker 1: you're watching the video of it, you know, it's just,
[34:34] Speaker 1: it's just awful. Like he said, he said, you know,
[34:36] Speaker 1: you have, you have somebody just maybe driving home, listen
[34:40] Speaker 1: to the radio, plan in their day tomorrow or whatever,
[34:43] Speaker 1: and then next thing you know, you're on the side
[34:46] Speaker 1: of the road dead. But the thing I, you know,
[34:52] Speaker 1: after watching that video, here's what I thought about. I
[34:55] Speaker 1: thought about that first responder and what it would be
[35:00] Speaker 1: like to have your hands on the chest of a
[35:04] Speaker 1: person like that, trying your best to basically bring that
[35:09] Speaker 1: person back to life. And then finally realizing it's not happening.
[35:14] Speaker 1: And then, you know, you got to throw the blanket
[35:17] Speaker 1: over them. And then you go home after work, you
[35:21] Speaker 1: take a shower, you get in bed. How do you
[35:24] Speaker 1: get that image out of your head? How do you
[35:26] Speaker 1: stop thinking about that? What is it like to live
[35:30] Speaker 1: that life every day where you're literally putting your hands
[35:33] Speaker 1: on people and trying to bring to revive them from
[35:36] Speaker 1: the dead? I tell you, these first responders, they deserve
[35:39] Speaker 1: a lot more credit than they probably get. I know.
[35:42] Speaker 1: I mean, like we all appreciate them, but God, that's
[35:46] Speaker 1: that's really hardcore to think about the the psychological impact
[35:50] Speaker 1: of that.
[35:53] Speaker 3: So.
[35:55] Speaker 1: When it comes to your life, there are different techniques
[35:58] Speaker 1: that you might be able to use to improve. What
[36:00] Speaker 1: if you could what if you could see your future?
[36:04] Speaker 1: And what if you actually could somehow improve your life
[36:07] Speaker 1: because you could see events like Nostradamus did, but in
[36:12] Speaker 1: a slightly different way? A way that applies more personally
[36:18] Speaker 1: to you. Maybe you would recognize something about you that
[36:20] Speaker 1: you wouldn't recognize for the world at large. So I'm
[36:25] Speaker 1: talking like probably 25 or more years ago. I went
[36:29] Speaker 1: out to the store one day and I bought some
[36:32] Speaker 1: black glass bowls. And some were big, some were little.
[36:39] Speaker 1: It didn't really matter that much. And I put them
[36:44] Speaker 1: on basically the coffee table at my house at the time.
[36:48] Speaker 1: And I filled each one with water. And then I
[36:53] Speaker 1: lit some candles. And those flickering candles were the only
[36:57] Speaker 1: light in the room. And I would stand there, or
[37:00] Speaker 1: I would sit there in Absolute quiet, even though some
[37:05] Speaker 1: white noise would probably be nice. And I would stare
[37:07] Speaker 1: at that. When we come back, I'll tell you what happened.
[37:11] Speaker 1: And then also, I've got some news for you. There
[37:15] Speaker 1: is new scientific news about dark matter. And this is
[37:22] Speaker 1: a big deal, really, because if we understand that, we're
[37:25] Speaker 1: going to understand everything. A Whole New Dimension. I'm Joshua P.
[37:29] Speaker 2: Warren.
[37:29] Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
[37:33] Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. And I will be
[37:37] Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this
[38:18] Speaker 1: edition of strange things on the I heart radio and
[38:21] Speaker 1: coast to coast. I am paranormal podcast network. I'm your host,
[38:26] Speaker 1: Joshua P Warren. And sure enough, If I sit there
[38:34] Speaker 1: with a black glass bowl, regardless of size, in front
[38:41] Speaker 1: of me. And I'm talking about like it's on a
[38:44] Speaker 1: coffee table or something. I'm sitting on the couch and
[38:47] Speaker 1: I'm just kind of leaning over and looking down on
[38:49] Speaker 1: it with nothing but a little flickering candlelight. White noise
[38:55] Speaker 1: would be nice. You know, nowadays you can play white
[38:58] Speaker 1: noise a million different ways on your phone or computer.
[39:01] Speaker 1: if you're old fashioned, get an AM FM radio, find
[39:04] Speaker 1: a blank station just to get that and just stare
[39:08] Speaker 1: at it. If I do that, then I very quickly
[39:13] Speaker 1: lose track of time. I do enter a meditative state.
[39:17] Speaker 1: I can't really see much. You can, you can just see,
[39:21] Speaker 1: it's hard to describe. It depends. You know, you just
[39:23] Speaker 1: see little, little lights moving around depending on how the
[39:27] Speaker 1: candles flickering. And then I will be, to see visions
[39:33] Speaker 1: visions that look like movie scenes and they're not clear
[39:39] Speaker 1: as a bell they're shadowy but they're distinctive enough that
[39:43] Speaker 1: I can tell what I'm looking at I can say
[39:45] Speaker 1: I can say well that's a mountain range Oh, look,
[39:48] Speaker 1: this is a parade of people. Oh, look, this is
[39:51] Speaker 1: a bird flying. Now, is this just like Paradoia looking
[39:57] Speaker 1: at the clouds and seeing an elephant or looking at
[40:01] Speaker 1: the moon and seeing the man in the moon? I'm
[40:03] Speaker 1: sure it is to a certain extent. But it's interesting
[40:08] Speaker 1: to try it. I can tell you that I have
[40:10] Speaker 1: sat there for probably at least an hour looking at
[40:13] Speaker 1: visions that appear at water using this technique. I cannot
[40:18] Speaker 1: say that it has ever predicted anything. Like I haven't
[40:22] Speaker 1: seen something that showed me what I later identified as
[40:25] Speaker 1: a future event. Now I have had lots of dreams
[40:27] Speaker 1: that have come true, but using that technique, I can't say,
[40:31] Speaker 1: and I haven't done it a lot. I've only done
[40:32] Speaker 1: it a few times, but you know, that's how you
[40:36] Speaker 1: do it. Try that out. I mean, it's right now.
[40:41] Speaker 1: I don't know when you're listening to this show, but
[40:42] Speaker 1: I mean, right now, like I said, I'm recording in
[40:44] Speaker 1: the fall. It's coming up Halloween time. excellent time to
[40:48] Speaker 1: experiment with something like this. That is a very basic
[40:51] Speaker 1: form of scrying that anybody can do. And even though
[40:56] Speaker 1: I guess you could use any kind of a dark container,
[40:59] Speaker 1: I mean, heck, Nostradamus used, I believe, brass, so his
[41:03] Speaker 1: wasn't even black. I just like the black glass bowl.
[41:07] Speaker 1: To me, that seemed to be the most effective because
[41:10] Speaker 1: I did try different techniques. And, you know, it's funny
[41:15] Speaker 1: because here I am talking about staring into basically the darkness,
[41:20] Speaker 1: this infinite darkness. And there's news that's just come out
[41:25] Speaker 1: days ago about dark matter. You know, scientists say of
[41:31] Speaker 1: everything that we know about the universe, we have the
[41:34] Speaker 1: best telescopes that we can get, the best astrophysicists that
[41:38] Speaker 1: we're looking out there as far and as deep and
[41:40] Speaker 1: as wide as And what we concluded is that at
[41:43] Speaker 1: least 95% of what we can observe in the universe
[41:49] Speaker 1: is made up of what we call either dark matter
[41:52] Speaker 1: or dark energy. And those things are defined by the
[41:57] Speaker 1: very fact that we have no idea what they are.
[42:03] Speaker 1: So what scientists who are honest will tell you is
[42:05] Speaker 1: that we don't know what at least 95% of all
[42:08] Speaker 1: this stuff is around us. We can't even measure it,
[42:11] Speaker 1: but it has to be there. And so I say, well,
[42:16] Speaker 1: why don't we just humble ourselves and just admit then
[42:19] Speaker 1: that we don't know what the heck is going on here?
[42:21] Speaker 1: Instead of rolling your eyes and turning up your nose
[42:24] Speaker 1: at people, maybe like myself, who is a paranormal investigator
[42:27] Speaker 1: or people who speculate about what may or may not
[42:31] Speaker 1: be possible with spiritual realms and other dimensions. I mean,
[42:35] Speaker 1: why not accept the fact that we just don't know?
[42:38] Speaker 1: I mean, if I handed you a cup of liquid
[42:41] Speaker 1: and I said, drink this, then you said, well, what
[42:45] Speaker 1: is it? And I said, well, 5% of it is water,
[42:52] Speaker 1: but I don't know what the other 95% is. Just
[42:55] Speaker 1: drink it. Would you drink that? Probably not. And so
[43:01] Speaker 1: that's where we stand right now in terms of the
[43:04] Speaker 1: legitimacy of science and how, you know, how scientists try
[43:09] Speaker 1: to pretend that they know far, far more than they
[43:11] Speaker 1: do about what is possible. So it's always interesting when
[43:15] Speaker 1: there's some kind of news that comes out along these lines.
[43:18] Speaker 1: And sure enough, just days ago, scientists associated with an
[43:25] Speaker 1: experiment in South Dakota say that they have an underground
[43:30] Speaker 1: liquid xenon detector that has recorded some kind of an
[43:34] Speaker 1: unexplained particle interaction that they think is very likely a
[43:40] Speaker 1: hint of a dark matter particle. Now, again, dark matter
[43:45] Speaker 1: is interesting because dark matter is an invisible form of
[43:49] Speaker 1: matter that does not emit, absorb, or reflect light, making
[43:54] Speaker 1: it theoretically detectable only through its gravitational pull on visible
[44:01] Speaker 1: objects like stars and galaxies, but it cannot be directly detected.
[44:05] Speaker 1: So getting any evidence of this is a huge deal.
[44:09] Speaker 1: So they say that this detector underground there in South Dakota,
[44:13] Speaker 1: this is called the Lux Zeppelin event, registered a single
[44:17] Speaker 1: unusual particle event that's very difficult to explain using any
[44:21] Speaker 1: kind of ordinary background noise. And right now, the researchers
[44:26] Speaker 1: are saying there's a 99.5% chance that that this came
[44:31] Speaker 1: from an unknown source rather than standard physics. Wow. You
[44:36] Speaker 1: don't hear scientists say that too often. 99.5% chance this
[44:41] Speaker 1: came from an unknown source rather than standard physics. So
[44:46] Speaker 1: keep your eye on that, because if they start making
[44:49] Speaker 1: headway on that, that may open the door to all
[44:51] Speaker 1: these crazy things that everybody calls paranormal may very soon
[44:56] Speaker 1: become normal. And I wonder to what extent the human
[45:01] Speaker 1: mind interacts with all this. It's kind of funny. Earlier today, Lauren,
[45:07] Speaker 1: my wife and I, we were sitting in our living
[45:09] Speaker 1: room and I was flipping through the channels. And this
[45:12] Speaker 1: movie was airing that I worked on. And it came
[45:16] Speaker 1: out in 2012. The movie is called The Apparition. And
[45:21] Speaker 1: it's based upon the Philip experiment. Basically what happened, it's
[45:25] Speaker 1: a major motion picture. Warner Brothers movie. They contacted me
[45:29] Speaker 1: around 2010, and they said, we're making this horror movie
[45:32] Speaker 1: called The Apparition, and we want you to be a
[45:35] Speaker 1: consultant on it. And I said, okay, great. And the
[45:38] Speaker 1: idea was there are some students who cobble some equipment together,
[45:42] Speaker 1: and they're trying to create a ghost, almost like a tulpa.
[45:47] Speaker 1: They're trying to direct their consciousness and make some type of, well,
[45:51] Speaker 1: you know, an apparition. And of course, things go awry,
[45:55] Speaker 1: they succeed, and they create this horrible thing that starts
[45:57] Speaker 1: attacking and killing them. Spoiler alert. And the movie actually
[46:03] Speaker 1: did not do very well. I was only involved with
[46:07] Speaker 1: consulting them on the types of equipment and procedures and
[46:10] Speaker 1: techniques that would be used to do such a thing,
[46:15] Speaker 1: because I actually have done this experiment before. And I
[46:18] Speaker 1: think they did a pretty good job for a motion picture. And,
[46:24] Speaker 1: you know, representing some of the techniques and the ideas
[46:27] Speaker 1: and some of the equipment that would be used to
[46:29] Speaker 1: attempt this, to really magnify the human brain into making
[46:34] Speaker 1: something like an independent entity that can then go out
[46:39] Speaker 1: and terrorize the neighbors. But what's kind of funny about
[46:43] Speaker 1: it is I worked with them as a consultant for
[46:46] Speaker 1: quite a while. They sent a crew out to North
[46:49] Speaker 1: Carolina where I live. They followed me and my team around.
[46:52] Speaker 1: We actually shot some stuff for the Blu-ray extras and some– actually,
[46:59] Speaker 1: I think that's probably better stuff than the movie to
[47:01] Speaker 1: be honest with you. But I bring this up because
[47:04] Speaker 1: in the end, as they're showing the credits, it says
[47:08] Speaker 1: ghost consultant Joshua Warren. And Lauren got online and she
[47:15] Speaker 1: started asking AI, how many people have been considered ghost
[47:18] Speaker 1: consultants in a major motion picture? And AI says, only
[47:23] Speaker 1: Joshua Warren. And it gives this big explanation for how they,
[47:30] Speaker 1: instead of calling me paranormal researcher or a cult advisor
[47:33] Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, they went with ghost researcher because
[47:37] Speaker 1: they thought it was appropriate and they thought it would
[47:39] Speaker 1: sound good in the marketing. So apparently I found out
[47:43] Speaker 1: today that I have made history. I must be the
[47:48] Speaker 1: only person in the history of motion pictures who has
[47:53] Speaker 1: been credited in a, I'm talking a major motion picture
[47:57] Speaker 1: as a ghost consultant. So I now continue offering my
[48:01] Speaker 1: services to other major motion pictures. If you're interested in
[48:05] Speaker 1: having a ghost consultant for your film, look me up.
[48:09] Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun doing that. And, uh,
[48:12] Speaker 1: I can't think of a better person to have on
[48:14] Speaker 1: your team. All right. As usual, I hope you've enjoyed
[48:18] Speaker 1: the show. Now we're going to wrap it up like
[48:20] Speaker 1: we try to do most of the time. If you can,
[48:24] Speaker 1: close your eyes. If not, that's okay. Take a deep breath.
[48:28] Speaker 1: We're all going to meditate together on trying to make
[48:31] Speaker 1: next week the best week ever for all of us
[48:33] Speaker 1: listening to this show as we concentrate on the one,
[48:37] Speaker 1: the only, the original, the world famous, the good fortune
[48:42] Speaker 1: tone that you'll only hear right here On this podcast,
[48:46] Speaker 1: here it is. That's it. For this edition of the show,
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