# Psychic Vampires - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 9/9/26

An episode of [The Best of Coast to Coast AM](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1206175991), 10 Sep 2026, 16 min.

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George Noory and psychiatrist Dr. Judith Orloff discuss how to protect yourself from energy vampires who drain your emotional energy, how to identify narcissists who aren't good for your mental health, and George shares the story of a psychic vampire's negativity that caused him to lose a bet in Las Vegas. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
[0:05] Speaker 2: And welcome back, George Norrie, along with Dr. Judith Orloff,
[0:08] Speaker 2: our psychiatrist empath. Judith, psychic vampires, energy vampires, what are
[0:15] Speaker 2: they in your opinion?
[0:18] Speaker 3: Psychic vampires and energy vampires are people who have the
[0:23] Speaker 3: power to suck your energy dry. And you could feel them.
[0:28] Speaker 3: If you're around somebody and suddenly your energy starts to
[0:33] Speaker 3: go down, maybe it's slowly, maybe it's just very quickly,
[0:38] Speaker 3: you need to be aware of that intuitively so that
[0:41] Speaker 3: you honor that. And energy vampires can be narcissists. They
[0:48] Speaker 3: could be rageaholics. They can be vicious types, just people
[0:54] Speaker 3: who are mean-spirited and vicious and want to hurt you
[0:57] Speaker 3: in some way. Or they could be a chronic talker,
[1:01] Speaker 3: somebody who talks so much you can't get a word
[1:04] Speaker 3: in edgewise and your energy is going down. So everybody
[1:10] Speaker 3: can relate to that. And what happens in that situation
[1:13] Speaker 3: is somebody's talking and then you move back maybe a
[1:18] Speaker 3: foot or two and then they move forward. So they're
[1:22] Speaker 3: very crafty in terms of wanting to corner you so
[1:25] Speaker 3: that They might not look at the fact that they're
[1:28] Speaker 3: draining your energy. They might not, but they are. And
[1:32] Speaker 3: so it's important not to get cornered by them and
[1:35] Speaker 3: to be able to set boundaries at that time and say,
[1:38] Speaker 3: you know, I have to go on and talk with
[1:40] Speaker 3: these people now. It was nice talking to you and
[1:43] Speaker 3: just exit. It's very important to do that. Empaths are
[1:46] Speaker 3: terrible at doing that. They're so polite. They just want
[1:49] Speaker 3: to stand there and listen forever, which is not healthy.
[1:53] Speaker 3: And so it's important as an empath, as a sensitive person,
[1:57] Speaker 3: to identify these energy vampires. We're talking about the chronic
[2:01] Speaker 3: talker now. But know that they're real. And just because
[2:05] Speaker 3: they seem benign, if your energy is going down, that's
[2:09] Speaker 3: what's important because that could lead to a lot of things.
[2:11] Speaker 3: If you're chronically around energy vampires and they're sucking at
[2:17] Speaker 3: you and you're not doing anything to protect yourself, it
[2:20] Speaker 3: can affect your health and your well-being. And so, first
[2:24] Speaker 3: of all, you want to identify who the energy vampires are,
[2:28] Speaker 3: to ask yourself, to look around in your life and say,
[2:31] Speaker 3: who are the people, if I have any at all,
[2:34] Speaker 3: that are draining me? And to be very honest about that,
[2:38] Speaker 3: you're not necessarily judging them. You want to just identify
[2:43] Speaker 3: who they are so you can develop strategies to stop
[2:47] Speaker 3: this from happening. You don't want to allow people to
[2:50] Speaker 3: drain your energy. It just is not healthy. And it's
[2:55] Speaker 3: something that, you know, you as part of self-care, as
[2:58] Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, you know, just identifying the people
[3:01] Speaker 3: in your life who maybe aren't so good for you,
[3:04] Speaker 3: you know, or maybe you're just not compatible with energetically.
[3:08] Speaker 3: But whatever it is, ask yourself with anybody. You know,
[3:12] Speaker 3: as an empath, I have to do this all the time. Otherwise,
[3:15] Speaker 3: my energy would be drained. Where I have to say,
[3:18] Speaker 3: is this relationship, this energy, even if it's just for
[3:21] Speaker 3: a short period of time, something positive. Is my energy
[3:25] Speaker 3: going up? This is, you know, the opposite of an
[3:29] Speaker 3: energy vampire. Do I feel better? Do I feel close
[3:33] Speaker 3: to the person? Do I feel like I'm more energized
[3:38] Speaker 3: around this person? Am I drawn to this person? Whatever,
[3:41] Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to being drained. So you want
[3:44] Speaker 3: to ask yourself that. And so everyone who's listening, who's
[3:47] Speaker 3: interested in changing this about their lives and wants to
[3:50] Speaker 3: deal with the energy vampires, this is wonderful. Now, as
[3:54] Speaker 3: a psychiatrist, it's very important to me that my patients
[4:01] Speaker 3: make sure that they're accountable for who they're with and
[4:04] Speaker 3: what relationships they get in and who's draining them and
[4:07] Speaker 3: who isn't, and be able to take steps that are
[4:10] Speaker 3: positive with those that are draining their energy, perhaps limit
[4:15] Speaker 3: contact with them, or at least identify who they are.
[4:19] Speaker 3: That's really important and it's so good for your well-being
[4:23] Speaker 3: and it's part of your intuitive self and your empath
[4:26] Speaker 3: self because as an empath if i didn't do this
[4:30] Speaker 3: if i wasn't aware if i just went out doors
[4:33] Speaker 3: every day and went into the world and i wasn't
[4:36] Speaker 3: aware i didn't acknowledge who was gaining me who was
[4:39] Speaker 3: giving me energy and really just feel that intuitively you
[4:44] Speaker 3: know i don't think i would you know be as
[4:48] Speaker 3: energized as i usually am you know i i want
[4:52] Speaker 3: to feel well i want to be happy i want
[4:54] Speaker 3: to use my intuition i want to use my empathy
[4:58] Speaker 3: and um be able to just say what isn't working
[5:01] Speaker 3: in my life too and that can include these energy
[5:05] Speaker 3: vampires um you know one of which is is a
[5:09] Speaker 3: narcissist i know george you have mentioned that before that
[5:11] Speaker 3: you wanted to talk about the narcissist because The narcissist
[5:17] Speaker 3: is very common and it's all over our world. We're
[5:22] Speaker 3: getting so many examples of narcissists on the world stage,
[5:26] Speaker 3: on a personal stage. People are just experiencing them. So
[5:29] Speaker 3: they're learning a lot about narcissists. But narcissists are people
[5:33] Speaker 3: who have what is called empathy deficient disorder. And this
[5:38] Speaker 3: means that they're not capable of having empathy as we
[5:42] Speaker 3: know it. And this is really, really important that you
[5:45] Speaker 3: know this. Because a narcissist can be very self-absorbed. They
[5:50] Speaker 3: can be very charming as well. And they present a
[5:54] Speaker 3: false kind of empathy where they're not exactly pretending, but
[5:59] Speaker 3: they know how to charm you into believing that they
[6:02] Speaker 3: really understand you and that they are the person you've
[6:06] Speaker 3: been looking for.
[6:07] Speaker 2: A lot of psychic vampires do this. as you mentioned,
[6:12] Speaker 2: don't even know they're doing it, do they?
[6:14] Speaker 3: That's true. No, they don't even know. Some are just
[6:18] Speaker 3: born with this capacity where they come into the world,
[6:22] Speaker 3: and it could be partly narcissism, where they don't look
[6:26] Speaker 3: at it that way. They don't say, oh, I'm lacking empathy,
[6:30] Speaker 3: and it's something I want to develop. They think they
[6:32] Speaker 3: have it. And if a narcissist, you know, and the
[6:37] Speaker 3: narcissist's partner come into me as a therapist, and they
[6:40] Speaker 3: want to have psychotherapy, it's almost impossible because the narcissist
[6:45] Speaker 3: will always say it's your fault. The narcissist is never
[6:49] Speaker 3: accountable for the part they might play in a relationship.
[6:54] Speaker 3: So it's difficult to deal with them. And especially if
[6:57] Speaker 3: they don't know what they're doing, you know, if they
[7:00] Speaker 3: don't have that consciousness of this is what I'm doing
[7:03] Speaker 3: and I'm consciously charming this person or setting off love bombs,
[7:06] Speaker 3: you know, in order to charm them and reel them in.
[7:10] Speaker 3: They might not think about it exactly that way. They
[7:13] Speaker 3: might just think themselves as irresistible. And so that's why
[7:17] Speaker 3: it's all happening. But they're not saying, oh, I have
[7:19] Speaker 3: a lack of empathy and this disturbs me. They think
[7:22] Speaker 3: they are. So they don't have a real sense of reality.
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[8:58] Speaker 2: I knew a psychic vampire who asked me for help
[9:03] Speaker 2: one day and it worked. He would bore the living
[9:07] Speaker 2: daylights out of people by just sitting next to them.
[9:10] Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. I've never seen anything like this. When
[9:13] Speaker 2: he talked, it was even worse. And you could see
[9:16] Speaker 2: people just try to mingle and walk away from this guy.
[9:20] Speaker 2: And one day he called me and he said, George,
[9:23] Speaker 2: I need a favor. You're into a lot of this.
[9:27] Speaker 2: Is there something wrong with me? And I said, what
[9:29] Speaker 2: do you mean, physically? And he said, no, I mean,
[9:33] Speaker 2: I'm with people at a party, at a group, sitting
[9:38] Speaker 2: at a bar, at a lounge, and they always leave me.
[9:42] Speaker 2: They walk away within minutes. What am I doing wrong?
[9:46] Speaker 2: And I told her, and I'll say, Bob, just for
[9:50] Speaker 2: lack of a name, I said, Bob, you're a psychic
[9:54] Speaker 2: energy vampire. You're sucking the energy from these people who
[9:58] Speaker 2: are around you. I happen to know what he was,
[10:01] Speaker 2: and it never affected me. And I want to ask
[10:04] Speaker 2: you about that in a minute. But I said, you
[10:07] Speaker 2: need to change your direction about people. Don't bore them
[10:12] Speaker 2: so much. Don't wander on. Don't keep talking, as you mentioned.
[10:17] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[10:18] Speaker 2: Just interject yourself slightly and, you know, listen to them.
[10:24] Speaker 2: And he did. And he worked at it. And he changed.
[10:27] Speaker 2: And he changed. They can change, can't they?
[10:32] Speaker 3: Some of them can change. The narcissists really don't change.
[10:38] Speaker 3: You know, what happens is the empath feels that they
[10:42] Speaker 3: could change the narcissist. I've had so many conversations over
[10:45] Speaker 3: the years with empaths who are just Vince, they found
[10:48] Speaker 3: their soulmate or they found their soul friend, and they're
[10:53] Speaker 3: going to change them. They're going to help heal them.
[10:55] Speaker 3: They're going to love them. And with a narcissist, they
[11:00] Speaker 3: have a neurological difference. They don't have empathy. And empaths
[11:06] Speaker 3: can't get that. A lot of them really can't get that.
[11:09] Speaker 3: And so they have to live through the painful experience
[11:13] Speaker 3: of getting involved with a narcissist. But the fellow that
[11:16] Speaker 3: you talked about, didn't sound like a narcissist because he
[11:20] Speaker 3: was really open to looking at his part and draining
[11:23] Speaker 3: all these people. And he would see all these people
[11:25] Speaker 3: walking away. That was an incredible story. I mean, it's
[11:27] Speaker 3: very visual. He could see it and he wanted to
[11:32] Speaker 3: be liked by people and he didn't want people to
[11:34] Speaker 3: walk away, but he had no insight into himself until
[11:37] Speaker 3: you gave it to him, which was a very direct
[11:40] Speaker 3: way of helping him.
[11:43] Speaker 2: Now, why didn't it seem to affect me being around him?
[11:48] Speaker 3: It sounds like you had a lot of empathy for
[11:50] Speaker 3: a situation where you saw him and you saw people
[11:56] Speaker 3: leaving him and you heard him and that nobody would
[12:01] Speaker 3: stay with him. And he asked you, well, how can
[12:03] Speaker 3: I change? Can I change this? And you said yes.
[12:07] Speaker 3: So I think it was a very therapeutic intervention, George.
[12:10] Speaker 2: Could I be immune to vampires?
[12:12] Speaker 3: Are you susceptible to some vampires?
[12:16] Speaker 5: Yes.
[12:20] Speaker 2: Interesting. There was a situation years ago. I was with Tommy,
[12:25] Speaker 2: my producer in Las Vegas, and we were sitting at
[12:29] Speaker 2: a blackjack table that had somewhat of a roulette wheel
[12:35] Speaker 2: attached to it. It was a different kind of a
[12:37] Speaker 2: blackjack game. But if you got a blackjack, you know
[12:41] Speaker 2: what that is, right?
[12:42] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[12:44] Speaker 2: You got the chance to spin the wheel... And you
[12:48] Speaker 2: would win whatever the wheel ended up on. And I
[12:54] Speaker 2: picked up a couple blackjacks. And Tom and I are
[12:58] Speaker 2: at this table. And there's another guy sitting at the
[13:00] Speaker 2: table with us who was a psychic vampire. And we
[13:04] Speaker 2: spin the wheel. And it's clicking. Click, click, click, click.
[13:08] Speaker 2: And it's getting close to $ 1, 000 on one of the clicks.
[13:12] Speaker 2: And Tom and I are just looking at this wheel,
[13:15] Speaker 2: wishing it. to click on $ 1, 000. The guy next to Tom,
[13:22] Speaker 2: the negative guy, kept saying, it ain't going to happen.
[13:26] Speaker 2: It's not going to get close. Well, it stopped one
[13:30] Speaker 2: click away from $ 1, 000. It was $ 2. And we are
[13:35] Speaker 2: convinced to this day, Judith, that that guy's negativity stopped
[13:40] Speaker 2: that wheel from clicking to the $ 1, 000. Is that possible? Oh, definitely.
[13:46] Speaker 3: And it sounds like he did that purposefully. He didn't
[13:49] Speaker 3: want you to get that. He totally got the situation.
[13:52] Speaker 3: But people can have this negative energy or they can
[13:55] Speaker 3: just have the ability to direct their energy to make
[13:59] Speaker 3: physical things happen. And it was one or the other,
[14:03] Speaker 3: as if he had that psychokinetic power where he could
[14:07] Speaker 3: actually alter the motion of the blackjack table so that...
[14:14] Speaker 3: it would not hit the $ 1, 000 mark. I think he
[14:17] Speaker 3: probably sits there all the time and does that.
[14:21] Speaker 2: Now, where does the sociopath come in?
[14:24] Speaker 3: The sociopath is somebody who doesn't have a conscience. There
[14:30] Speaker 3: are a lot of common traits of the narcissist. They
[14:32] Speaker 3: can be totally self-absorbed. They don't have empathy. They have
[14:38] Speaker 3: the empathy deficient disorder. They have the ability to charm
[14:43] Speaker 3: their victims. and to convince them that whatever the sociopath
[14:47] Speaker 3: is into is a great idea. And the sociopaths can
[14:53] Speaker 3: be very dangerous financially for people because they can get
[14:56] Speaker 3: in there and get involved with people's finances and then
[15:01] Speaker 3: run off with them, you know, or just, you know,
[15:04] Speaker 3: leave people penniless and they don't have a conscience so
[15:07] Speaker 3: it doesn't hurt them. So this is the perceptual differences that,
[15:13] Speaker 3: you might feel with a sociopath. So it's hard to
[15:16] Speaker 3: understand how this is possible. But I'm glad we're talking
[15:21] Speaker 3: about this because in terms of empaths and empaths saving
[15:24] Speaker 3: their energy, you need to identify who these people are,
[15:28] Speaker 3: who the narcissists are, who the sociopaths are, who the
[15:33] Speaker 3: chronic talkers are, who the rageaholics are. That's another one,
[15:36] Speaker 3: someone who can drain you with rage. And somebody who
[15:40] Speaker 3: just has pure, psychokinetic powers, you know, or negative energy,
[15:45] Speaker 3: just like the dark cloud over the person. And everywhere
[15:49] Speaker 3: they go, they bring people down with them. The guy
[15:53] Speaker 3: that you were describing who seemed to like doing what
[15:57] Speaker 3: he was doing.
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