# Episode 307: Best of show - What is SIN? PLUS The Bible Code & 666!

An episode of [The Best of Coast to Coast AM](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1206175991), 8 Sep 2026, 51 min.

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## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
[0:04] Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Now get ready for Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren.
[0:13] Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and
[0:17] Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions
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[0:26] Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premier Networks, or their sponsors
[0:30] Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do
[0:34] Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.
[0:51] Speaker 1: Get ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird.
[0:55] Speaker 1: This is Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. I am
[1:06] Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, and each week on this show, I'll
[1:10] Speaker 1: be bringing you brand new mind-blowing content, news, exercises, and
[1:14] Speaker 1: weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more.
[1:20] Speaker 1: On this edition of the program, what is sin? Plus,
[1:26] Speaker 1: the Bible code, and yes, that infamous number, 666. What
[1:31] Speaker 1: is the truth? about these topics. Now, let me say
[1:38] Speaker 1: right off the bat, look, these are tricky and uncomfortable
[1:45] Speaker 1: and complicated subjects, which is why I am tackling it, okay?
[1:51] Speaker 1: Not because it's easy, because it's hard. And I know
[1:56] Speaker 1: that I can never really properly tackle this subject because
[2:00] Speaker 1: it's too vast and complex and meaningful and even controversial
[2:06] Speaker 1: to so many people. So let me ask you right
[2:10] Speaker 1: up front here to just forgive me as I fumble
[2:13] Speaker 1: through this. I'm just thinking out loud here. I am
[2:17] Speaker 1: speaking off the top of my head. I have no
[2:19] Speaker 1: particular expertise in this stuff. I'm not some kind of
[2:22] Speaker 1: religious scholar. So please just bear with me And let
[2:29] Speaker 1: me try to speculate with you as we look at
[2:32] Speaker 1: this stuff and try to determine what the truth may
[2:35] Speaker 1: or may not be. And I also want to point
[2:39] Speaker 1: out that in some of my recent podcasts, I've talked
[2:42] Speaker 1: about things that some people have felt might be kind
[2:45] Speaker 1: of a downer. I talked about me reproducing the Masaru
[2:49] Speaker 1: Emoto water crystal experiment, not getting much of a result.
[2:54] Speaker 1: And then I talked about how this big grand announcement
[2:57] Speaker 1: about fusion energy producing more output than was input, I explained, well,
[3:04] Speaker 1: that isn't exactly correct, that it took a lot more
[3:09] Speaker 1: energy to put that whole system in place. And then
[3:13] Speaker 1: I talked about, of course, Ralph Lell's Brown Mountain Alien Mummy,
[3:17] Speaker 1: and I said, oh, turns out that's just a fake,
[3:20] Speaker 1: a gaffe, a phony. And I know that the great
[3:27] Speaker 1: Mark Twain said, never let the truth stand in the
[3:31] Speaker 1: way of a good story. But you know what? We
[3:36] Speaker 1: live in a world where people have taken imagination a
[3:39] Speaker 1: little too far in some cases and are deluding themselves.
[3:44] Speaker 1: And therefore, we have to look at all things with
[3:49] Speaker 1: a sense of moderation. And I hope that's one of
[3:52] Speaker 1: the things that you respect about this show. that I'm
[3:55] Speaker 1: not always sitting here just trying to sensationalize everything and
[3:58] Speaker 1: look for the most fantastic explanation. I'm also trying to
[4:03] Speaker 1: look at a reasonable, logical approach to trying to get
[4:07] Speaker 1: to the bottom of some of these mysteries that can
[4:10] Speaker 1: become a confusing hall of mirrors out there. You know,
[4:13] Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about a variety of religions in
[4:16] Speaker 1: this podcast, not just religions based on the Bible, but
[4:20] Speaker 1: obviously that'll be the most prominent one because I live
[4:23] Speaker 1: here in the United States of America. And there are
[4:26] Speaker 1: plenty of people who question every day how much of
[4:31] Speaker 1: the Bible is fact versus fiction because it has been
[4:35] Speaker 1: interpreted so many different ways and published in so many
[4:39] Speaker 1: different editions. I mean, these are good questions. You know,
[4:41] Speaker 1: Dale Allen Hoffman brought up these sort of inconsistencies. But
[4:46] Speaker 1: as I was doing research for this particular podcast, I
[4:49] Speaker 1: was kind of surprised because when you start looking at
[4:53] Speaker 1: the latest opinion here on something like the existence of Jesus.
[4:59] Speaker 1: I remember for a large part of my life, there
[5:01] Speaker 1: were always people who were like, look, there's no way
[5:04] Speaker 1: that we will know for sure that Jesus even existed.
[5:07] Speaker 1: Jesus could have been some type of a representative character
[5:13] Speaker 1: based on other earlier traditions from Egypt, etc. I mean,
[5:16] Speaker 1: you hear these things, right? But I read this article,
[5:20] Speaker 1: and I read a number of these, but here's a
[5:22] Speaker 1: good example. It's just the Wikipedia article on the historicity
[5:29] Speaker 1: of Jesus. Do you know what historicity is? That means
[5:33] Speaker 1: the historical authenticity. So this is something that is supposed
[5:36] Speaker 1: to look at this from a rational, practically an atheistic
[5:41] Speaker 1: point of view. And this says what so many others
[5:44] Speaker 1: say with a lot of footnotes. It says, virtually all
[5:48] Speaker 1: scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure. Okay,
[5:55] Speaker 1: that's the latest. Did you know that? Virtually all scholars
[5:59] Speaker 1: of antiquity now accept that Jesus was a historical figure
[6:02] Speaker 1: and dismiss denials of his existence as a fringe theory.
[6:07] Speaker 1: While many details, like his alleged miracles, are still subject
[6:12] Speaker 1: to debate, of course. But nobody is doubting that he existed.
[6:15] Speaker 1: In fact, one expert pointed out that even back in
[6:18] Speaker 1: the days, like right after Jesus, practically right after he
[6:22] Speaker 1: was killed, when Christians were being terribly persecuted and executed,
[6:28] Speaker 1: Even then, people who were critics of Christianity, who were
[6:32] Speaker 1: writing about that and talking about all the reasons they
[6:35] Speaker 1: didn't believe in it, even they never brought up, oh,
[6:38] Speaker 1: by the way, Jesus wasn't real. Even they never talked
[6:42] Speaker 1: about that as a possibility. That never occurred to them.
[6:45] Speaker 1: And if you look at all these scholars, they've come
[6:49] Speaker 1: to the conclusion that we know, let's see, I think
[6:53] Speaker 1: it's like eight, as they call it, literally indisputable facts
[7:00] Speaker 1: about Jesus's biography. Here are those facts that all the
[7:04] Speaker 1: scholars are agreeing upon. One, Jesus was a Galilean preacher. Two,
[7:11] Speaker 1: his activities took place in Galilee and Judea. Three, he
[7:17] Speaker 1: was baptized by John the Baptist. Four, he called disciples. Five,
[7:25] Speaker 1: he had a controversy at the temple. Six, Jesus was
[7:30] Speaker 1: crucified by the Romans near Jerusalem. And seven, after his death,
[7:36] Speaker 1: his disciples continued. And then eight, some of his disciples
[7:41] Speaker 1: were persecuted. So that's what is agreed upon by scholars. So,
[7:46] Speaker 1: you know, from there, again, you can argue whether or
[7:50] Speaker 1: not You know, he did the things that are attributed
[7:53] Speaker 1: to him. But that's interesting. It shows you how some
[7:56] Speaker 1: of that changes. And, you know, right now, as we
[8:00] Speaker 1: learn more and our technology advances and we become better
[8:05] Speaker 1: informed beings, thanks to computers and such, some things, especially
[8:12] Speaker 1: some of the weirder, more mysterious things that were written
[8:14] Speaker 1: in the Bible that used to seem only metaphorical are
[8:19] Speaker 1: now becoming scientifically relevant. You're starting to look at them differently.
[8:23] Speaker 1: For example, in the first murder in the Bible, when
[8:27] Speaker 1: Cain kills his brother Abel, has this scene where, you know,
[8:31] Speaker 1: Cain is, he's ashamed, he knows he's done something wrong.
[8:35] Speaker 1: And so God pops up and says, hey, where's your brother?
[8:40] Speaker 1: And God says, yeah, God says, what have you done
[8:48] Speaker 1: Your brother's blood is crying out to me from the ground. Okay,
[8:53] Speaker 1: that's Genesis 4.10. What a weird thing for God to
[8:57] Speaker 1: supposedly say. What have you done? I hear your brother's
[9:01] Speaker 1: blood crying out to me from the ground. Now you
[9:04] Speaker 1: think to yourself, well, you've seen blood before. It doesn't
[9:06] Speaker 1: cry out from the ground. It doesn't literally make any noise.
[9:10] Speaker 1: You can't take that literally. But now we have DNA. DNA. And,
[9:18] Speaker 1: you know, that was written thousands of years ago. Now
[9:20] Speaker 1: we have this thing called DNA, which is literally like
[9:24] Speaker 1: the blood is speaking for the victim. You know, that's
[9:30] Speaker 1: the thing. It's like you go to a crime scene.
[9:31] Speaker 1: What are you looking for? You mainly want to get
[9:33] Speaker 1: some DNA here because it's going to tell you who
[9:36] Speaker 1: is there. And every little bit of you is reproduced
[9:40] Speaker 1: in your DNA. It's astonishing. Maybe that. is an explanation
[9:45] Speaker 1: that would have never occurred to people if we didn't
[9:47] Speaker 1: know about that. Or also like, uh, this other part
[9:51] Speaker 1: in the, uh, King, uh, the new King James version,
[9:54] Speaker 1: it says something to the effect, Luke eight 17. He's
[9:58] Speaker 1: talking about the future for nothing is secret. That will
[10:01] Speaker 1: not be revealed nor anything hidden. That will not be
[10:07] Speaker 1: known and come to light. Now you could think to
[10:13] Speaker 1: yourself in the old days, if you commit a murder
[10:15] Speaker 1: or whatever and get away with it, well, who cares?
[10:18] Speaker 1: It's like it never happened, right? But now, look, not
[10:22] Speaker 1: only do we have DNA, but we have cameras all
[10:25] Speaker 1: over the place. And cameras are now making it less
[10:29] Speaker 1: and less likely for you to do something that will
[10:32] Speaker 1: not be revealed. Politicians are finding that out the hard way.
[10:36] Speaker 1: And you know, as technology advances, we're just going to
[10:39] Speaker 1: have more and more cameras everywhere. And not to mention
[10:44] Speaker 1: the possibility of time cameras, that somebody in the future
[10:48] Speaker 1: has invented a camera They can look back and see
[10:50] Speaker 1: the past. And we are all currently being observed right
[10:53] Speaker 1: now by people in the future. I mean, like, we
[10:56] Speaker 1: can really go down that rabbit hole. But anyway, look,
[10:59] Speaker 1: when we come back from this break, now that I've
[11:02] Speaker 1: made my point, let's get into this topic. All right.
[11:05] Speaker 1: What supposedly is sin? not just in the Bible, but
[11:09] Speaker 1: within the context of other religions. Let's look at what
[11:12] Speaker 1: everybody is sort of saying a sin is and see
[11:15] Speaker 1: if we can find a common denominator and figure out
[11:18] Speaker 1: what that is. And then we're going to take it
[11:20] Speaker 1: a step further. And we're going to see how much
[11:22] Speaker 1: literal programming might be in the Bible. And is there
[11:25] Speaker 1: anything to some of the numeric codes like 666? And
[11:30] Speaker 1: by the way, I know that you need to see
[11:32] Speaker 1: things to believe them. And if you're somebody who would
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[12:40] Speaker 1: I am Joshua P. Warren, and you are listening to
[12:42] Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
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[13:26] Speaker 1: back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Costa Costa
[13:31] Speaker 1: M Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, the Wizard of Weird,
[13:36] Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my
[13:40] Speaker 1: studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day
[13:46] Speaker 1: is golden and every night is silver. What is sin? Well,
[13:53] Speaker 1: if we go to the Wikipedia page, it says, in
[13:55] Speaker 1: a religious context, sin is a transgression against divine law. Okay,
[14:04] Speaker 1: and so divine law is law that God or some
[14:11] Speaker 1: godlike force hands down. And somebody has to get that
[14:19] Speaker 1: message and turn around and tell you about it. And
[14:24] Speaker 1: it says, each culture has its own interpretation of what
[14:27] Speaker 1: it means to commit a sin. Okay, so that means
[14:31] Speaker 1: a sin is whatever... Somebody tells you it is. Well,
[14:37] Speaker 1: we solved that mystery. Thanks for tuning in on our
[14:43] Speaker 1: next show. Just kidding. Just kidding. I think we can
[14:48] Speaker 1: dig a little deeper. Let's see. It says, while sins
[14:53] Speaker 1: are generally considered actions... Any thought, word, or act considered immoral, selfish, shameful, harmful,
[15:01] Speaker 1: or alienating might be termed sinful. Okay, so right off
[15:04] Speaker 1: the bat, you see here that we are going to
[15:07] Speaker 1: have to look at this through the lens of many
[15:10] Speaker 1: different kinds of cultures and perspectives to see what we
[15:13] Speaker 1: can find in common here. All right, so here's a
[15:18] Speaker 1: list of just different religions, philosophies, whatever you want to
[15:22] Speaker 1: call them. One of them is Baha'i. I don't have
[15:25] Speaker 1: time to explain what each one of these religions is about.
[15:28] Speaker 1: You can look that up. But it says, Baha'i considers
[15:32] Speaker 1: humans to be naturally good, fundamentally spiritual beings. Human beings
[15:39] Speaker 1: were created because of God's immeasurable love for us. However,
[15:43] Speaker 1: the Baha'i teachings compare the human heart to a mirror,
[15:48] Speaker 1: which if turned away from the light of the sun,
[15:51] Speaker 1: that is God, is incapable of receiving God's love. It
[15:56] Speaker 1: is only by turning unto God that spiritual advancement can
[16:00] Speaker 1: be made. In this sense, sinning is to follow the
[16:04] Speaker 1: inclinations of one's own lower nature, to turn the mirror
[16:08] Speaker 1: of one's heart away from God. So, the lower nature
[16:16] Speaker 1: in humans is symbolized as Satan, the evil ego within us.
[16:21] Speaker 1: not an evil personality outside. Okay, so that's what they believe.
[16:25] Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't know if I'm saying
[16:26] Speaker 1: Baha'i properly, but you probably know what I'm talking about.
[16:31] Speaker 1: Like I say, I'm just a dude with a microphone.
[16:33] Speaker 1: All right, I'm not a scholar. Next, we go on
[16:35] Speaker 1: to Buddhism. There are a few differing Buddhist views on sin.
[16:40] Speaker 1: American Zen author Brad Warner states that in Buddhism, there
[16:44] Speaker 1: is no concept of sin at all. The Buddha Dharma
[16:48] Speaker 1: Education Association also says, quote, the idea of sin or
[16:53] Speaker 1: original sin has no place in Buddhism, end quote. That
[16:56] Speaker 1: sounds nice, doesn't it? It goes on to say here,
[17:00] Speaker 1: in Buddhist thinking, the whole universe, men as well as gods,
[17:05] Speaker 1: are subject to a reign of law. Every action, good
[17:08] Speaker 1: or bad, has an inevitable and automatic effect in a
[17:11] Speaker 1: long chain of causes, an effect that is independent of
[17:15] Speaker 1: the will of any deity. Even though this may leave
[17:18] Speaker 1: no room for the concept of sin in the sense
[17:21] Speaker 1: of an act of defiance against the authority of a
[17:23] Speaker 1: personal god, Buddhists speak of sin when referring to transgressions
[17:28] Speaker 1: against the universal moral code. Okay, so, whoops, it looks
[17:32] Speaker 1: like there is some sin in here somewhere. In fact,
[17:36] Speaker 1: it goes on to say, as a matter of fact,
[17:39] Speaker 1: there is this part of Buddhism that has five sins.
[17:44] Speaker 1: So you see, there's always... variety, even within a certain
[17:49] Speaker 1: faith or philosophy. One of them is killing your mother.
[17:55] Speaker 1: The other one is killing your father. One of them
[17:58] Speaker 1: is injuring a Buddha, which is, you know, an enlightened person.
[18:01] Speaker 1: One of them is killing, I guess they call it
[18:04] Speaker 1: an arhat. It's one of the spiritual leaders. or creating
[18:11] Speaker 1: a schism, a problem in their society. So they had,
[18:13] Speaker 1: you know, so there are some things there that are
[18:16] Speaker 1: considered sins, but all right. Christianity, of course, Christianity, that's,
[18:21] Speaker 1: that's the major leagues of sin right here. You know,
[18:23] Speaker 1: now we're getting to, to the big stuff and Christianity,
[18:28] Speaker 1: you know, what's interesting is Christianity often relies on this
[18:32] Speaker 1: concept of original sin. And here's what that means. Um,
[18:39] Speaker 1: best I can tell here. Original sin is the belief
[18:48] Speaker 1: that humans were automatically born into a sinful state of mind.
[18:59] Speaker 1: And that, for example, it says, just as sin entered
[19:03] Speaker 1: the world through one man and death through sin, death
[19:06] Speaker 1: came to all people because all sinned. And this is
[19:11] Speaker 1: best represented by the story of the Garden of Eden. Behold,
[19:18] Speaker 1: I was brought forth in iniquity and in sin my
[19:21] Speaker 1: mother conceived me. So what they're doing is they're talking
[19:23] Speaker 1: about the fact that we were born as sinners, which
[19:28] Speaker 1: is why that Adam and Eve gave in to temptation.
[19:33] Speaker 1: And since you were born a sinner, well, it's a
[19:37] Speaker 1: pessimistic point of view. You were born a sinner, so
[19:41] Speaker 1: what you're doing is spending this whole life trying to
[19:43] Speaker 1: learn how to not sin. So, you're kind of screwed
[19:47] Speaker 1: from the moment you entered this world from a Christian
[19:50] Speaker 1: point of view. You're always fighting against your nature. Your
[19:54] Speaker 1: nature is to sin and to be like an animal.
[19:56] Speaker 1: I guess that's how you can define it without me
[20:01] Speaker 1: giving you some kind of sermon here with all these
[20:04] Speaker 1: biblical quotes and everything. But then, of course, you have
[20:07] Speaker 1: specific things that which are considered sins. And you know,
[20:13] Speaker 1: the Bible is interesting because there are a number of
[20:15] Speaker 1: religions and faiths and philosophies that all rely on the Bible,
[20:19] Speaker 1: but they view it differently. Obviously, the two big ones
[20:22] Speaker 1: are Judaism and then Christianity, but you have a lot
[20:27] Speaker 1: of sects within Judaism that disagree and a lot of
[20:30] Speaker 1: sects within Christianity that disagree. And then you have other
[20:33] Speaker 1: religions that rely on the Bible that don't view it
[20:36] Speaker 1: the same way. But anyway, the most Famous examples, of course,
[20:41] Speaker 1: would be like the Ten Commandments. And I'm not going
[20:44] Speaker 1: to read all of them to you, but, you know,
[20:45] Speaker 1: it says thou shalt not kill. Well, again, that can't
[20:49] Speaker 1: be taken literally because you have to kill something in
[20:52] Speaker 1: order to survive. You have to kill a plant or
[20:55] Speaker 1: an animal in order to eat something. I mean, so like, again,
[20:59] Speaker 1: it's like you have to interpret this stuff. And then
[21:03] Speaker 1: it's like thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not covet
[21:07] Speaker 1: thy neighbor's property. house or wife or anything, you know,
[21:14] Speaker 1: that he has. And, you know, remember the Sabbath, keep
[21:17] Speaker 1: it holy. You know, those are things. A lot of
[21:20] Speaker 1: it has to do with just like minding your own business, though,
[21:23] Speaker 1: and not being jealous of what your neighbor's got and
[21:26] Speaker 1: not wanting what your neighbor has, which is a very
[21:29] Speaker 1: practical way of looking at life if you don't want
[21:31] Speaker 1: to cause problems with your neighbor. But did you know,
[21:34] Speaker 1: and this was kind of a surprise to me, that, uh,
[21:39] Speaker 1: when it gets down into, um, to Judaism, it says Judaism, uh,
[21:45] Speaker 1: regards 613 commandments as a sin. Now you're really screwed.
[21:54] Speaker 1: If that 600, did you know that? Sure enough, I
[21:57] Speaker 1: have a list right here, 613 commandments. Uh, so some
[22:02] Speaker 1: of them are just like, uh, you know, fear God.
[22:06] Speaker 1: And then it's, you know, and then it's stuff like, uh,
[22:09] Speaker 1: Show love towards converts. Do not hate fellow Jews. Do
[22:13] Speaker 1: not embarrass others. Do not oppress the weak. Do not
[22:17] Speaker 1: take revenge. Do not bear a grudge. Do not curse God.
[22:23] Speaker 1: Do not worship idols. Do not make an idol for yourself.
[22:31] Speaker 1: It's interesting. Do not inquire of spirits. Do not consult
[22:36] Speaker 1: magicians or seers. Do not plant a tree in the
[22:41] Speaker 1: temple courtyard. Of 613, I guarantee you've violated one of these.
[22:50] Speaker 1: That's interesting, isn't it? You should go read the 613
[22:53] Speaker 1: things that they say you're not supposed to do. And then,
[22:56] Speaker 1: of course, we have in Islam, sin is an important
[22:59] Speaker 1: concept in Islamic ethics. Muslims see sin as anything that
[23:05] Speaker 1: goes against the commands of God, Allah. A breach of
[23:09] Speaker 1: the laws and norms laid down by religion. Islam teaches
[23:13] Speaker 1: that sin is an act and not a state of being.
[23:20] Speaker 1: That it is believed that God weighs an individual's good
[23:23] Speaker 1: deeds against his or her sins on the day of
[23:25] Speaker 1: judgment and punishes those individuals whose evil deeds outweigh their
[23:29] Speaker 1: good deeds. So it sounds like it's a little different
[23:32] Speaker 1: than the Christian perspective of original sin. And then... Listen
[23:39] Speaker 1: to this. Shinto, let's see, the Shinto concept of sin
[23:47] Speaker 1: inexorably linked to concepts of purity and pollution. Shinto does
[23:53] Speaker 1: not have a concept of original sin. Instead, believing that
[23:57] Speaker 1: all human beings are born pure. Sin, also called sumi,
[24:03] Speaker 1: is anything that makes people impure, anything that separates them
[24:08] Speaker 1: from the kami. However, Shinto does not believe this impurity
[24:12] Speaker 1: is the result of human actions, but rather the result
[24:16] Speaker 1: of evil spirits or other external factors. Isn't that interesting?
[24:22] Speaker 1: Sin can have a variety of consequences in Japan, including
[24:26] Speaker 1: disaster and disease. And because of this, purification rituals... are
[24:31] Speaker 1: viewed as important, not just to the spiritual and physical
[24:34] Speaker 1: health of the individual, but to the well-being of the nation. Wow,
[24:37] Speaker 1: this is fascinating, isn't it? All right, when we come back,
[24:40] Speaker 1: I'm going to look at all this stuff, and I'm
[24:43] Speaker 1: going to find what I think is the common denominator
[24:47] Speaker 1: to help us figure out, like, okay, let's simplify this.
[24:51] Speaker 1: What is sin? But then we're going to go back
[24:54] Speaker 1: to this most influential book, the Bible. Some people say
[24:57] Speaker 1: that There's a code in there that really spells things
[25:01] Speaker 1: out for you. Is that true? I'm Joshua P. Warren,
[25:05] Speaker 1: and you're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and
[25:09] Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'll be back
[25:13] Speaker 1: after these important messages. Thank you. Welcome back to Strange
[25:50] Speaker 1: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
[25:55] Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, and this
[25:59] Speaker 1: is the show where the unusual becomes usual. You know,
[26:05] Speaker 1: having read all this stuff and studied it best I can,
[26:11] Speaker 1: I'm looking at what is the common denominator here that maybe–
[26:15] Speaker 1: because everyone is different and they all have their own
[26:18] Speaker 1: specific detailed rules. But I kind of think that maybe Baha'i–
[26:25] Speaker 1: and I looked it up. I am pronouncing it correctly,
[26:27] Speaker 1: I believe, Baha'i. I think that Baha'i probably does the
[26:31] Speaker 1: best job of reducing it right down when it says
[26:34] Speaker 1: the lower nature in humans is symbolized as Satan, the
[26:38] Speaker 1: evil ego within us, not us. an evil personality outside.
[26:45] Speaker 1: And I say that because that... How often have you
[26:49] Speaker 1: seen some demon running around with a forked tail and
[26:56] Speaker 1: horns and all that? Probably not very often. But how
[27:01] Speaker 1: often have you seen people do evil things? It's unfortunate
[27:05] Speaker 1: that they're on the news every day. And... Maybe what
[27:12] Speaker 1: we can do here to sort of just reduce this
[27:14] Speaker 1: down to what all these things have in common is
[27:18] Speaker 1: that ultimately evil, let me put it this way, sin
[27:26] Speaker 1: is absolute selfishness. And where does that come from? Selfishness
[27:33] Speaker 1: comes from ego and narcissism. and lack of humility and arrogance.
[27:46] Speaker 1: And so whether or not you believe in a higher power,
[27:49] Speaker 1: whether you're an atheist or a believer in God, or
[27:54] Speaker 1: you're an agnostic, if you are arrogant and you are
[28:01] Speaker 1: egotistical and you are selfish, then You, I believe, are
[28:07] Speaker 1: what we can say is the type of person who
[28:11] Speaker 1: is given to sin, which leads in many cases to
[28:17] Speaker 1: evil acts. I don't think it always does, because again,
[28:19] Speaker 1: it depends on what you define as a sin, and
[28:23] Speaker 1: that varies a little bit from culture to culture. But
[28:25] Speaker 1: I think if you give in to that ultimate selfishness, though,
[28:29] Speaker 1: eventually it's going to lead you to acts that you
[28:32] Speaker 1: will regret. So what is sin? Sin is utter selfishness,
[28:38] Speaker 1: in my opinion. I think that's what they all have
[28:41] Speaker 1: in common here. And so how do you combat that? Well,
[28:45] Speaker 1: look at what all or many of these different religions
[28:47] Speaker 1: and philosophies say. It's the golden rule. Do unto others
[28:53] Speaker 1: as you would have them do unto you. That's the
[28:57] Speaker 1: biblical concept spoken by Jesus in Luke and in Matthew. Um,
[29:05] Speaker 1: Here's another version of it. So in everything, do to
[29:08] Speaker 1: others what you would have them do to you, for
[29:10] Speaker 1: this sums up the law and the prophets, end quote.
[29:13] Speaker 1: That's Matthew 7, 12. And then when you start looking
[29:18] Speaker 1: at some of the Hindu stuff and things that were
[29:22] Speaker 1: related to Buddhism or that part of the world, well,
[29:26] Speaker 1: karma plays a role. Karma in the Sanskrit. And karma
[29:31] Speaker 1: is the same thing. It's the idea that if you're selfish, well,
[29:36] Speaker 1: you're throwing off the balance. It can't be all about you, okay?
[29:42] Speaker 1: You have to give and be open and humble and
[29:45] Speaker 1: understanding of others. That's karma. But if you're just a
[29:48] Speaker 1: strict materialistic, rationalistic scientists, and you don't even believe in
[29:52] Speaker 1: spiritual stuff. All you believe is what you can measure
[29:55] Speaker 1: and put under a microscope. Well, now we have Newton's
[29:58] Speaker 1: third law for you in physics. For every action, there's
[30:01] Speaker 1: an opposite but equal reaction. You see, that's the common
[30:05] Speaker 1: thread behind all these things. Sin is selfishness, and selfishness
[30:12] Speaker 1: comes from narcissistic, arrogant ego and lack of humility. So
[30:21] Speaker 1: if you do your best to open your mind and
[30:24] Speaker 1: not be selfish, which is animalistic, if you open your
[30:28] Speaker 1: mind to try to not be selfish, and then you
[30:32] Speaker 1: also are always considering doing to others as you would
[30:36] Speaker 1: have them do unto you, I think that no matter
[30:39] Speaker 1: what religion or philosophy you find solace in, you're going
[30:44] Speaker 1: to be okay. I think that's what we can learn
[30:47] Speaker 1: from studying all these different things. So now, like I say,
[30:52] Speaker 1: there are people, however, who say, hey, dude, you're talking
[30:56] Speaker 1: about the Bible and yeah, you've got some lessons. Good job.
[31:01] Speaker 1: Good job, Mr. Smarty Pants. You figured out the duh here.
[31:06] Speaker 1: It's the golden rule. But you don't realize there is
[31:10] Speaker 1: an actual code. There is coded information that was put
[31:14] Speaker 1: into the Bible like a big puzzle. It's like a
[31:16] Speaker 1: big computer program. The Bible code. And it will tell
[31:20] Speaker 1: you literally, what's going on here, and even predict the future.
[31:26] Speaker 1: I've heard about this for decades. I even read the book,
[31:29] Speaker 1: The Bible Code, when it first came out a long
[31:31] Speaker 1: time ago. When was that? Looks like 1997. All right,
[31:36] Speaker 1: so here's what it says if you look up The
[31:38] Speaker 1: Bible Code. The Bible Code, also known as the Torah Code,
[31:43] Speaker 1: is a purported set of encoded words within the Hebrew
[31:46] Speaker 1: text of the The statistical likelihood of the Bible code
[31:54] Speaker 1: arising by chance has been thoroughly researched, and it is
[31:58] Speaker 1: now widely considered to be statistically insignificant, as similar phenomena
[32:04] Speaker 1: can be observed in any sufficiently lengthy text. Although Bible
[32:11] Speaker 1: codes have been postulated and studied for centuries, the subject
[32:15] Speaker 1: has been popularized in recent times by the Bible code
[32:18] Speaker 1: and the movie The Omega Code. Okay. Okay. So what
[32:22] Speaker 1: they're saying right off the bat is like, look, you
[32:24] Speaker 1: can take any long book and you can start finding
[32:27] Speaker 1: patterns in it that you start pushing into explanation. But
[32:33] Speaker 1: how do they do this? They use what is called
[32:37] Speaker 1: the equidistant letter sequence method. Now, if this doesn't make
[32:41] Speaker 1: total sense to you, don't worry. The primary method by
[32:47] Speaker 1: which purportedly meaningful messages have been extracted is is the
[32:51] Speaker 1: equidistant letter sequence. So letters are selected based on a
[32:55] Speaker 1: starting point and counting every nth letter based on a
[33:00] Speaker 1: given skip number in a certain direction. So for example,
[33:03] Speaker 1: taking every fourth letter in a phrase. It's almost like
[33:07] Speaker 1: doing a crossword kind of thing where you just start
[33:10] Speaker 1: with the letter and you just start skipping around until
[33:13] Speaker 1: you find other letters that form a word. Okay. And
[33:20] Speaker 1: so the problem is, like, you might go in there
[33:23] Speaker 1: and find the word tower, T-O-W-E-R, and be like, ah,
[33:27] Speaker 1: the Twin Towers were just, you know, attacked. And then
[33:31] Speaker 1: you go back and then you try to fit that
[33:33] Speaker 1: into and retrospect some kind of a prediction. Whereas, again,
[33:39] Speaker 1: they're saying that this can be done with any text.
[33:43] Speaker 1: I love the idea of this, but here's the problem.
[33:46] Speaker 1: Here's the reality. We're talking about real stuff here on
[33:49] Speaker 1: this podcast. The reality is, what version of the text
[33:55] Speaker 1: has got the code in it? These religious texts were
[34:00] Speaker 1: written by human beings, right? And they were interpreted and
[34:04] Speaker 1: retranslated and republished and edited and all this stuff so
[34:08] Speaker 1: many times over. Even if you went back and got
[34:11] Speaker 1: the original version of it, that's still a version that
[34:15] Speaker 1: a human wrote. And humans are fallible. It's not like
[34:19] Speaker 1: God handed this to you. So I don't think there's
[34:24] Speaker 1: any way that you can take something that a fallible
[34:27] Speaker 1: human hand writes and say, this is the, a code
[34:34] Speaker 1: here that we can go into and definitively interpret as
[34:38] Speaker 1: a message from, from the Lord. It's like, really just
[34:41] Speaker 1: God's trying to make it that hard. God's trying to
[34:44] Speaker 1: make us solve puzzles and stuff. I mean, do you,
[34:49] Speaker 1: if God helped to encode something in writing to that degree,
[34:53] Speaker 1: then you would need an absolute original copy from the
[34:56] Speaker 1: original source of And if that does exist, you don't
[35:01] Speaker 1: have any way of separating it from other versions. There
[35:04] Speaker 1: are so many versions, so many edits that you can
[35:06] Speaker 1: cobble together. I don't think God was giving us an
[35:09] Speaker 1: Agatha Christie novel to solve here. Why would God? Believe
[35:13] Speaker 1: it or not, life is actually not that complicated. I
[35:17] Speaker 1: think God was just trying to give us lessons to
[35:20] Speaker 1: ultimately express the golden rule. And this Bible code thing
[35:23] Speaker 1: is most likely another example of what we call paranoia.
[35:29] Speaker 1: All right. So, Paradoia, it is the tendency for a
[35:36] Speaker 1: human perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on random nebulous stimuli. Okay. So, again,
[35:46] Speaker 1: this is the tendency that you have to make sense
[35:48] Speaker 1: out of chaos. I show you a bunch of random
[35:50] Speaker 1: stuff and you look at it and your brain tries
[35:53] Speaker 1: to make sense out of it and turn it into
[35:54] Speaker 1: something familiar. And this is a big, big enemy of research,
[36:00] Speaker 1: especially when it comes to paranormal stuff, because people start
[36:02] Speaker 1: trying too hard and they open their brain. They, they
[36:05] Speaker 1: open their, their, they open their mind. So, so much
[36:08] Speaker 1: their brain falls out. This is like looking at the
[36:11] Speaker 1: moon and seeing the man in the moon and being like,
[36:13] Speaker 1: that's a big dude up there because you can clearly
[36:16] Speaker 1: see the face. We do this all the time. We
[36:19] Speaker 1: are designed to look for meaning magicians. And I'm talking
[36:23] Speaker 1: about like stage magicians here in Las Vegas. They take
[36:26] Speaker 1: advantage of this by trying to fool you because they
[36:32] Speaker 1: know what you're expecting to see. And so they turn
[36:34] Speaker 1: the tables on you. And they use that weakness to
[36:39] Speaker 1: trick you. And I just think that if there is
[36:43] Speaker 1: a message of some kind that is encoded in one
[36:46] Speaker 1: of these old religious texts, then the whole system is
[36:52] Speaker 1: so complicated and convoluted, that there is no way for
[36:56] Speaker 1: you to be able to distinguish that from Paradoia. Even
[37:02] Speaker 1: if it's not Paradoia, and I'm totally wrong about that,
[37:06] Speaker 1: I don't think you could tell the difference when you
[37:10] Speaker 1: can use the same technique on other texts and get
[37:12] Speaker 1: a similar result. But what about 666? Ah! Ah! The infamous.
[37:21] Speaker 1: Does that make the hair stand up on your arms?
[37:24] Speaker 1: We'll get into it soon. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're
[37:28] Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
[37:32] Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I will be right back.
[38:12] Speaker 1: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of
[38:15] Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
[38:19] Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network podcast. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren. 666,
[38:29] Speaker 1: the number of the beast, is associated with the beast
[38:34] Speaker 1: of Revelation. In chapter 13, verse 18 of the book
[38:39] Speaker 1: of Revelation, in most manuscripts of the New Testament and
[38:45] Speaker 1: in English translations of the Bible, The number of the
[38:50] Speaker 1: beast is 666. But, you know, what's interesting is that
[38:56] Speaker 1: it says here, in ancient sources, like the Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus,
[39:03] Speaker 1: it actually is translated into 616, not 666. I was like,
[39:10] Speaker 1: what is the Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus? I'm from Western North Carolina, folks.
[39:16] Speaker 1: It says here, this is... It's an old Greek manuscript.
[39:26] Speaker 1: Let's see. On parchment. And anyway, it's got a slightly
[39:32] Speaker 1: different interpretation of things. And it says 616 instead of 666.
[39:38] Speaker 1: But what we all know and love is that quote
[39:43] Speaker 1: that says in the Bible here, in the end times...
[39:49] Speaker 1: And that no man might buy or sell, save he
[39:53] Speaker 1: had the mark, or the name of the beast, or
[39:57] Speaker 1: the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him
[40:05] Speaker 1: that hath understanding count the number of the beast, for
[40:09] Speaker 1: it is the number of a man, and his number
[40:13] Speaker 1: is 666. Wow, what does that mean? You know, we
[40:21] Speaker 1: live in this age of computers and numbers and what
[40:29] Speaker 1: could it mean? Lots of people try to figure that
[40:32] Speaker 1: out every single day. Did you ever hear this story
[40:36] Speaker 1: that passed around a long time ago? Hey, turns out barcodes,
[40:40] Speaker 1: every single barcode out there has got 666 encoded within it.
[40:48] Speaker 1: And that this makes perfect sense. What they're talking about
[40:52] Speaker 1: is they're going to give us a barcode or some
[40:55] Speaker 1: kind of RFID chip or some kind of technology like this.
[41:00] Speaker 1: And it's going to have 666 as a reference point,
[41:02] Speaker 1: and that's what this is going to mean. Well, you
[41:05] Speaker 1: know what? Maybe that's going to happen. But what I
[41:08] Speaker 1: can tell you is that barcodes, as it turns out,
[41:13] Speaker 1: don't actually all have 666 in them. I looked up
[41:17] Speaker 1: a number of explanations for this, and this is just
[41:20] Speaker 1: one of them. Snopes says the EAN barcode system is
[41:26] Speaker 1: used in 80 EAN 13 barcode system is used in
[41:30] Speaker 1: 85 countries, making it the most popular product scanning system
[41:33] Speaker 1: of its kind in the world. It works by representing
[41:37] Speaker 1: numbers as a series of seven vertical lines. Each of
[41:41] Speaker 1: the seven lines is either black or white, and the
[41:44] Speaker 1: sequence of lines forms a pattern, which is recognized as
[41:47] Speaker 1: a particular digit when scanned by a computer. Every product
[41:52] Speaker 1: is assigned a unique 13-digit number, 10 digits for the product,
[41:58] Speaker 1: a check digit, and a couple of flag characters to
[42:01] Speaker 1: indicate the organization assigned the number. Contrary to popular myth,
[42:06] Speaker 1: all barcodes do not include the number 666. This belief
[42:11] Speaker 1: arose because the number 6 is represented by a pattern
[42:15] Speaker 1: similar to that of the guard bars used to mark
[42:18] Speaker 1: the beginning, middle, and end of every barcode. Since the
[42:22] Speaker 1: guard bars always appear three times in a given barcode,
[42:26] Speaker 1: people who mistakenly read them as 6s claim that the
[42:29] Speaker 1: pattern 666 was embedded in every barcode. However, if you
[42:33] Speaker 1: look closely at the 6 in a barcode, you will
[42:36] Speaker 1: see there is a wide, white bar either to the
[42:39] Speaker 1: left or the right of its pattern, which is not
[42:42] Speaker 1: the case with the guard bars. The only numbers on
[42:45] Speaker 1: the barcode which are scanned are those shown in the
[42:47] Speaker 1: conventional numerals beneath it. So, okay, I don't know how
[42:52] Speaker 1: much sense that made. This is a podcast. I'm short
[42:54] Speaker 1: on time, but I don't believe that that is true.
[42:58] Speaker 1: And again, you can look up other sources as well.
[43:01] Speaker 1: It's not like that all barcodes have 666 in them.
[43:03] Speaker 1: Or is it 616? Again, depending on the source. Okay,
[43:09] Speaker 1: so what does this mean? Is it possible some kind
[43:12] Speaker 1: of technology is going to come out that is central
[43:16] Speaker 1: to tracking us and allowing us to conduct trade and
[43:21] Speaker 1: that 666 will be a part of it? It is
[43:24] Speaker 1: certainly possible. But for right now, what does it mean?
[43:31] Speaker 1: Nobody knows. That is the answer to that question. Nobody knows.
[43:39] Speaker 1: And it reminds me of all these people who have
[43:44] Speaker 1: been predicting over and over throughout history that they know
[43:47] Speaker 1: when Jesus is going to return. And they give a
[43:51] Speaker 1: date and they give a time and all of their
[43:53] Speaker 1: followers get together and they do insane things. And then
[43:57] Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, at least not from the perspective of
[44:00] Speaker 1: the rest of us. And it says even in the Bible,
[44:05] Speaker 1: in Thessalonians, about that. For you yourselves know perfectly well
[44:10] Speaker 1: that the day of the return of the Lord is
[44:13] Speaker 1: coming just as a thief comes unexpectedly in the night.
[44:20] Speaker 1: No human being is supposed to have that knowledge. And
[44:25] Speaker 1: I don't think, I mean, if you're going to rely
[44:27] Speaker 1: on the same source to get the idea that God's
[44:30] Speaker 1: coming back, and then that source tells you, and by
[44:32] Speaker 1: the way, you're not going to be able to know,
[44:35] Speaker 1: why would you believe part of it and not the
[44:36] Speaker 1: other part? Why just say like, oh, it says he's
[44:39] Speaker 1: coming back, and I get to know when that's going
[44:43] Speaker 1: to be, despite the fact that it also says that
[44:45] Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to know. People, they
[44:48] Speaker 1: are very selective. I don't know what 666 means or
[44:52] Speaker 1: 616 means, and I've studied and I've done a lot
[44:55] Speaker 1: more research than I have time to present on this podcast.
[44:58] Speaker 1: And what I can tell you is that I don't
[45:00] Speaker 1: believe that anybody knows. So here's the lesson of this podcast.
[45:06] Speaker 1: Follow the golden rule, and you really don't need to
[45:10] Speaker 1: worry about anything else. How simple is that? But here
[45:16] Speaker 1: is something to think about. Now, honestly, just think about it.
[45:22] Speaker 1: The Spanish conquistador Francisco Pizarro was stabbed to death in
[45:29] Speaker 1: Peru in 1541. And as he was on the ground
[45:36] Speaker 1: bleeding out, the last thing he did was use his
[45:40] Speaker 1: finger to draw a cross on the ground in his
[45:45] Speaker 1: own blood as his consciousness was slipping away. And he said, Jesus.
[45:54] Speaker 1: That's what gave him that last feeling of protection. That
[46:01] Speaker 1: was his last impulse. What would be your very last
[46:05] Speaker 1: act in the final seconds of your life as it
[46:08] Speaker 1: slips away? That may help you gain some perspective on
[46:12] Speaker 1: what is important in your life right now, today. And
[46:16] Speaker 1: it may sound depressing to hear me put it that way,
[46:19] Speaker 1: but actually, It can give you great joy once you
[46:23] Speaker 1: understand where your priorities should lie. Because things become fun
[46:30] Speaker 1: when you understand what to value. It's kind of a
[46:34] Speaker 1: breakthrough in your life. And that understanding, once you pursue it,
[46:41] Speaker 1: will start flooding your life with rewards. And you might
[46:48] Speaker 1: ultimately loosen up and become a nicer, humbler, more grateful person.
[46:54] Speaker 1: In fact, you know how when just about anybody says,
[47:00] Speaker 1: I'm hoping for good luck. I want good fortune here.
[47:02] Speaker 1: I'm crossing my fingers. You know where that comes from?
[47:06] Speaker 1: Most experts say that that comes from the whole idea
[47:11] Speaker 1: of Christianity, that you're forming a cross with your fingers
[47:16] Speaker 1: and Whether you're religious or not, you're forming a cross
[47:19] Speaker 1: with your fingers because you're associating that subconsciously with the
[47:25] Speaker 1: idea of manifesting a miracle. Now, there are some other
[47:29] Speaker 1: scholars who say, well, wait, we have examples of that
[47:32] Speaker 1: kind of thing even before Christianity back in the pagan world. Fine.
[47:36] Speaker 1: There are a lot of connections between the pre-Christian world
[47:40] Speaker 1: and the Christian world, but there's something significant about this concept,
[47:44] Speaker 1: isn't there, of the cross, crossing your fingers and And
[47:48] Speaker 1: something simple about that that may symbolize some peace. But
[47:54] Speaker 1: I've done the best I can do to explore this
[47:57] Speaker 1: topic with you. And hey, whether or not you agree
[48:01] Speaker 1: with some of my opinions, maybe at least I will
[48:04] Speaker 1: have inspired you to go do some of your own research.
[48:09] Speaker 1: And that is all I can hope for when I
[48:11] Speaker 1: do a free podcast like this. Here endeth the lesson.
[48:18] Speaker 1: I have some very interesting audio of EVP that I
[48:22] Speaker 1: plan to play for you. I don't have time to
[48:24] Speaker 1: do it on this show, so I think I'm going
[48:26] Speaker 1: to play it for you on my next show. I
[48:28] Speaker 1: don't play EVP very often, but I'm going to play
[48:31] Speaker 1: this for you and see what you think about it.
[48:33] Speaker 1: But now it is time for us all to relax.
[48:36] Speaker 1: If you can, close your eyes, take a deep breath,
[48:39] Speaker 1: and be exposed to the Good Fortune Tones. That's it
[49:07] Speaker 1: for this edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter
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[49:38] Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Thank you for your interest and support.
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