# Do You Want to go Looking for Bigfoot? - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 482

An episode of [Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1176349237), 1 Jul 2025, 1 h 10 min.

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Tonight’s guest, Russell Wiitala, is a retired Postal worker who lives in Raymond, Washington. One day, in 2007, while he was going for a walk with a friend, his friend asked him if he had heard about a family seeing a Sasquatch close to where they were walking. Russ told him that he hadn’t heard about that and proceeded to ask his friend if he’d like to go looking for Bigfoot. As you’ll hear, if you listen to tonight’s show, the rest is history. Fast forward to present day and Russ has multiple sightings and encounters under his belt. We hope you’ll listen to him share some of those experiences on tonight’s show. Russ has a website that we hope you'll visit. To check it out, please go to... https://www.sasquatchshaman.com/gallery/ Russ wrote a book titled, "Sasquatch, Shaman of the Woods." If you'd like to purchase a copy, please visit... https://www.amazon.com/Sasquatch-Shaman-Woods-Russell-Wiitala/dp/1649572522 If you’ve had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134 Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening!

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: My name is Russell Whetela. I'm a retired postal worker
[0:06] Speaker 1: from Raymond, Washington, And right after I retired, I was
[0:10] Speaker 1: walking with a friend and he asked me if I
[0:13] Speaker 1: was aware that a family had seen a sasquatch nearby.
[0:18] Speaker 1: I was shocked. Sasquatch wasn't even in my head at
[0:22] Speaker 1: the time, and the next thing out of my mouth
[0:25] Speaker 1: was do you want to go looking for Bigfoot? And
[0:28] Speaker 1: my friend, being spontaneous as he is, he said yes.
[0:32] Speaker 1: So we began looking for sasquatch in two thousand and
[0:36] Speaker 1: seven and it took four years, four years to make contact.
[0:44] Speaker 1: They were aware of us, I know they were. We
[0:47] Speaker 1: were out there everywhere, digging here and there and basically
[0:52] Speaker 1: just ignoring us. But once they opened up, everything changed
[0:57] Speaker 1: big time. What happened and was I was walking that
[1:02] Speaker 1: trail where that family had seen that sasquatch, and I'd
[1:06] Speaker 1: probably walked that trail, you know, one hundred and fifty
[1:08] Speaker 1: times and nothing had happened. And then that one day
[1:13] Speaker 1: I could smell something that sounded felt that smelled like
[1:18] Speaker 1: a dog had had rolled in something dead. That's that's
[1:24] Speaker 1: the smell I got. And as I kept hiking up
[1:27] Speaker 1: the road. I kept smelling it. The wind was coming
[1:32] Speaker 1: down the road and I wasn't passing the carcass, so
[1:37] Speaker 1: I understood something was wrong here. Half mile past where
[1:42] Speaker 1: I should have seen the carcass, I hadn't seen a carcass,
[1:44] Speaker 1: and I still could smell that smell. And then I
[1:47] Speaker 1: heard three knocks, and that was the first interaction. I
[1:51] Speaker 1: went back. I was very excited. I called my friend
[1:54] Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, not the quarterback anyway, I called him and
[1:59] Speaker 1: told him that I think I had an interaction. And
[2:03] Speaker 1: also as bold as I was, I stated that I
[2:08] Speaker 1: think I could find him now. During that four years
[2:12] Speaker 1: that we had nothing happening happening, I did some studying
[2:16] Speaker 1: and some thought and came up with kind of a
[2:20] Speaker 1: formula that I thought might work. And we went out
[2:23] Speaker 1: to the Willpie Hills, and the first place we went to,
[2:28] Speaker 1: they were there. And now I think differently about that
[2:33] Speaker 1: whole thing. It was as if they knew where we
[2:36] Speaker 1: were going to go, and so they set up shop
[2:38] Speaker 1: there is what I think now, But at that time
[2:41] Speaker 1: I thought we actually found them, and it was a
[2:44] Speaker 1: family of five. We call him the Beckel clan because
[2:50] Speaker 1: because he's a big echo. He filled that valley with
[2:58] Speaker 1: a scream so loud I just can't even described out
[3:00] Speaker 1: loud and long it was. It was over ten seconds,
[3:03] Speaker 1: it was eleven or twelve seconds. He sustained his scream.
[3:08] Speaker 1: Now I can sustain my scream if I scream at
[3:11] Speaker 1: the top of my lungs about four seconds. Go out
[3:13] Speaker 1: and try it sometime. You'll find that you'll run out
[3:16] Speaker 1: of air real quick. So anyway, this is kind of
[3:20] Speaker 1: funny because when I screamed, some coyotes started yapping, and
[3:26] Speaker 1: when he screamed, the whole valley went quiet. Now that's
[3:30] Speaker 1: respect We went quiet too. I turned and looked at
[3:34] Speaker 1: my friend and at that time, you know, I was
[3:36] Speaker 1: still skeptical up until that point. And I turned and
[3:40] Speaker 1: looked at him, and I said, I am one hundred
[3:42] Speaker 1: and ten percent believer. Now they're real. And now what Well,
[3:49] Speaker 1: so now we know that where the family is, and
[3:53] Speaker 1: we didn't know that it was a family at that time,
[3:55] Speaker 1: by the way, but we went out out there and
[4:01] Speaker 1: we could hear some movement around the perimeter of the
[4:05] Speaker 1: landing where we're on and I had brought something. I
[4:09] Speaker 1: thought maybe I could amuse him or something. I don't know,
[4:12] Speaker 1: but I brought one of these things that you twirl
[4:15] Speaker 1: around your head and it sounds like a flying saucer.
[4:18] Speaker 1: So I did that and he said he could hear
[4:20] Speaker 1: him scramble a little bit, so that was not a
[4:24] Speaker 1: good thing. So we put that away and that's never
[4:27] Speaker 1: been broke out again. And then because we're musicians, I thought, well,
[4:32] Speaker 1: maybe I could play the guitar. See how that works.
[4:36] Speaker 1: So we went out there and started a fire and
[4:38] Speaker 1: hung around the fire and I played the guitar, and
[4:42] Speaker 1: when I got ready to put it back in the case,
[4:45] Speaker 1: I heard over my left shoulder it sounded like a
[4:48] Speaker 1: ten year old girl go oh, just like that. And
[4:55] Speaker 1: after that, as I played the guitar, we could hear
[4:58] Speaker 1: their voices, the old, the patriarch, the male was on
[5:08] Speaker 1: one side with the two sons, and then we could
[5:10] Speaker 1: hear the mom and the girl one eighty off hiding
[5:16] Speaker 1: behind a burm on the other side. And so in
[5:20] Speaker 1: between songs we could hear them kind of whispering to
[5:22] Speaker 1: each other and stuff. And that's how we figured out
[5:24] Speaker 1: how many there were and also what they were. You know.
[5:30] Speaker 1: Eventually Russell brought one of his daughters out and she
[5:34] Speaker 1: was somewhat of a catalyst. Well, we started a smoky
[5:39] Speaker 1: fire and you know, made the patriarch mad, and he
[5:44] Speaker 1: pushed down a tree and they screened at us. And
[5:46] Speaker 1: I do have that recorded, by the way, somewhere I
[5:49] Speaker 1: don't know where. But anyway, so we left there and
[5:55] Speaker 1: then because I thought, you know, well we made him
[5:59] Speaker 1: mad and when his back, So it was it was
[6:03] Speaker 1: about thirteen or sixteen months later that we went back
[6:08] Speaker 1: because his daughter wanted to go back for her graduation
[6:13] Speaker 1: gift for high school, which I thought was fun. But anyway,
[6:16] Speaker 1: we went back and at first I had a different
[6:20] Speaker 1: rig then and so it took him a while to
[6:22] Speaker 1: figure out who it was that drove onto that landing.
[6:24] Speaker 1: But once they figured it out, oh, the little girl
[6:27] Speaker 1: was whooping. She was so excited because she was going
[6:30] Speaker 1: to hear some music. But also as Kessa was sitting
[6:34] Speaker 1: in a chair, she could see some brush part. Well,
[6:40] Speaker 1: that was probably the eldest son, which Russell had seen
[6:43] Speaker 1: one night I was playing the guitar. I think he
[6:46] Speaker 1: was watching my fingering on the guitar because you know,
[6:50] Speaker 1: he could see it in the firelight. Although they got
[6:53] Speaker 1: excellent sight, he probably didn't need to do that, but
[6:56] Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. I figure and Russell had
[7:00] Speaker 1: hurt his leg and he tripped accidentally as he was
[7:03] Speaker 1: pacing around the campsite, and when he tripped, it scared
[7:11] Speaker 1: the one that was watching. He was only like twenty
[7:13] Speaker 1: feet away, standing next to a tree. They like to
[7:17] Speaker 1: do that because they kind of blend in. And he
[7:19] Speaker 1: scrambled one way and my buddy started to scramble the other.
[7:23] Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. So he took about three steps
[7:27] Speaker 1: and then he went around and joined his mom and
[7:30] Speaker 1: his sister over there. But anyway, so that's the first clan. Now,
[7:35] Speaker 1: after we found that first clan and we felt like
[7:38] Speaker 1: we couldn't go back, I started looking for others, and
[7:44] Speaker 1: crazy as it seems, I found I don't know, probably
[7:48] Speaker 1: five families in six months in the Olympics and around
[7:56] Speaker 1: the Willpow Hills. And found another one in the Willpaw
[7:59] Speaker 1: Hills that we eventually called the Teddy Bear clan because
[8:03] Speaker 1: they accepted a teddy Bear that we gifted them, and
[8:06] Speaker 1: we heard those two juveniles talking all the time. Also,
[8:11] Speaker 1: I took a couple other musician friends out there and
[8:16] Speaker 1: they're married now, but they weren't then. Anyway, they sang
[8:20] Speaker 1: a song and did such a great job. He played
[8:22] Speaker 1: the guitar, She sang a song. It was beautiful, and
[8:26] Speaker 1: there was a we heard a baby scream in the
[8:29] Speaker 1: woods in delight. She was screaming in delight. She was
[8:32] Speaker 1: so happy about the music. I heard her two or
[8:35] Speaker 1: more times after that. So that was that was basically
[8:39] Speaker 1: our second family, the Teddy Bear clan, and we left
[8:43] Speaker 1: them gifts and you know, interacted. I call that interaction
[8:53] Speaker 1: because they knew we were there, and they came and
[8:56] Speaker 1: listened to us and and we heard them. So anyway,
[9:03] Speaker 1: interesting story about that area though. I heard later a
[9:07] Speaker 1: guy that I knew, he went camping up there with
[9:11] Speaker 1: a couple of his friends. They had a pickup truck
[9:15] Speaker 1: and they had their camping gear in the back, and
[9:17] Speaker 1: they started picking or make setting up the camp. And
[9:22] Speaker 1: there was a log on the landing and it was
[9:24] Speaker 1: kind of in the way, so they pushed it off
[9:26] Speaker 1: the landing. They erected their tent, they started to assemble
[9:30] Speaker 1: the rest of their camp, and the log came flying
[9:34] Speaker 1: back up and smashed their tent, and so they just
[9:39] Speaker 1: scrambled into the truck and left and all that gear,
[9:42] Speaker 1: he says, as far as he knows, it's still there. Well,
[9:45] Speaker 1: I didn't find his gear. I did look for it
[9:46] Speaker 1: a little bit, but I know where that area is.
[9:49] Speaker 1: That's that's it's about five miles out of Raymond, i'd say. Anyway,
[9:57] Speaker 1: So now I'm collecting all these friends, right and making visits.
[10:03] Speaker 1: I would go up to the Olympics and camp much
[10:07] Speaker 1: of the time solo. But I first started camping in
[10:10] Speaker 1: the campground and they started coming in. They came into
[10:14] Speaker 1: the campground. Now, how did they know who I was?
[10:18] Speaker 1: That's the question, because all of a sudden it was
[10:21] Speaker 1: easy for me to find Well, I think that first
[10:23] Speaker 1: four years was to show me that I couldn't find them.
[10:30] Speaker 1: They find us, and I believe that they read our
[10:35] Speaker 1: energy and they decided that I was okay and my
[10:38] Speaker 1: friend was okay, and so we see him quite often now.
[10:44] Speaker 1: So that's that's basically the workup. So we've got you know,
[10:49] Speaker 1: we've had interaction in Pyncheon Gifford National Park, I mean
[10:55] Speaker 1: National Forest, the Olympics, will Paul Hills, and in other places.
[11:05] Speaker 1: I've actually had contact in four different states and thirty
[11:09] Speaker 1: plus different areas. It's almost anywhere I go, they'll come
[11:16] Speaker 1: and call, and a lot of times they'll even come
[11:19] Speaker 1: into the campsite, but usually they wait tilli in the tent.
[11:24] Speaker 1: My friend, however, last year, about a year ago now,
[11:28] Speaker 1: we're at the Skokomish and camping in the National Forest,
[11:34] Speaker 1: and had a juvenile run out of the woods right
[11:40] Speaker 1: up to him, turn around, run right back in the woods.
[11:42] Speaker 1: So it was really dark, so he couldn't really see
[11:44] Speaker 1: it very well and scramble and trying to turn his
[11:47] Speaker 1: phone off to see what was coming at him, but
[11:49] Speaker 1: it was already gone by the time he got his
[11:51] Speaker 1: phone out. I believe that was a dare you know,
[11:55] Speaker 1: from like his siblings or something. That's that's the kind
[12:01] Speaker 1: of thing they do. Now. I want to talk though
[12:05] Speaker 1: about my teacher, the one I call teacher, and he's
[12:09] Speaker 1: very local. And there's also mister Ed which is very local.
[12:14] Speaker 1: And anyway, my teacher had a memorial on top of
[12:21] Speaker 1: the hill where I used to hike, and I just
[12:25] Speaker 1: had a feeling that a sasquatch put that rock on
[12:29] Speaker 1: that that stump. You know, it's a big rock, and
[12:33] Speaker 1: humans wouldn't climb a hill and do that, not around
[12:36] Speaker 1: here anyway, so I started putting rocks next to it,
[12:40] Speaker 1: and every time I hike up there, my rocks were
[12:42] Speaker 1: pushed off. They were gone. So I'd put bigger rocks
[12:49] Speaker 1: on because I thought, well, maybe the wind's pushing him off,
[12:52] Speaker 1: you know, because the wind howls up there sometimes and
[12:55] Speaker 1: newp No, those rocks got pushed off and actually disappeared completely.
[13:00] Speaker 1: That one rock remained. And then I realized that that
[13:03] Speaker 1: was a memorial. I kind of conjectured it was a
[13:06] Speaker 1: memorial memorial. So I paid my respect. The next time
[13:11] Speaker 1: I hiked out there, I got this huge yellow heart
[13:18] Speaker 1: crystal that they left for me. And so when I
[13:25] Speaker 1: got that crystal, and that was about i'd say, two
[13:27] Speaker 1: years into contact. When I got that crystal, I understood
[13:33] Speaker 1: that I wasn't a researcher anymore, that it had evolved
[13:39] Speaker 1: past that that we were friends of some sort, you know.
[13:43] Speaker 1: But since then it's it's deepened even more. You know,
[13:47] Speaker 1: they're like my special family out in the woods now.
[13:52] Speaker 1: So anyway, I've received many gifts I saw. I asked
[13:59] Speaker 1: for a siding here in twenty twenty, after I finished
[14:04] Speaker 1: my first book, I asked for a sighting because I
[14:06] Speaker 1: hadn't seen one for a couple about a year and
[14:10] Speaker 1: a half. I guess no, it turns out it was
[14:13] Speaker 1: six months because I forgot about the juvenile. But anyway,
[14:18] Speaker 1: so anyway, I'm walking out on that rails to Trails,
[14:22] Speaker 1: which is outside of Raymond. It goes all the way
[14:24] Speaker 1: to Shala's from Raymond, and there's this one spot where
[14:30] Speaker 1: it's about straight as an arrow for two miles and
[14:34] Speaker 1: I'm hiking along and I see an apple tree and
[14:36] Speaker 1: I grab an apple and I start chewing on that
[14:38] Speaker 1: apple and I look in about a mile down the trail,
[14:43] Speaker 1: I see what kind of you know, looks like a big,
[14:50] Speaker 1: I don't know, piece of lumbers sticking up. I didn't
[14:54] Speaker 1: know what it was, and I thought, I've never seen
[14:56] Speaker 1: that before. What is that? And then as I'm walking
[14:59] Speaker 1: toward you know, that beam starts to walk and I realize, oh,
[15:04] Speaker 1: that's a sasquatch. I's still over a mile away, but
[15:07] Speaker 1: I just keep walking at him. And I had a camera,
[15:12] Speaker 1: but I don't take pictures of him, even though accidentally
[15:15] Speaker 1: we've we've found three so far in our pictures. But
[15:21] Speaker 1: I'm walking towards him and he just meanders back and
[15:25] Speaker 1: forth and lets me walk towards him, and I watch
[15:27] Speaker 1: him for I would say maybe fifteen minutes. As I'm
[15:31] Speaker 1: walking towards him, I get within about a few hundred
[15:34] Speaker 1: yards and he crossed sliver of light because he was
[15:40] Speaker 1: in the shade and cars were going by, but the
[15:43] Speaker 1: sun was shining, you know, in their face, so they
[15:46] Speaker 1: wouldn't look that way. Plus he was kind of in
[15:49] Speaker 1: this area where there's a row of trees between the
[15:53] Speaker 1: trail and the road. So anyway, he crosses that liver
[16:00] Speaker 1: of light, and I got a chance to see his
[16:04] Speaker 1: coloring and he was kind of tan and sort of reddish,
[16:11] Speaker 1: you know, kind of a two tone thing there, you know,
[16:16] Speaker 1: kind of reddish on top and tan, you know, his
[16:19] Speaker 1: shoulders and stuff. And so now I call him Big Red.
[16:24] Speaker 1: But what was amazing. He was about nine feet he's
[16:27] Speaker 1: about nine feet tall, and I have found a print
[16:30] Speaker 1: of his before, which, by the way, his right foot
[16:35] Speaker 1: appears that he's only got three toes on his right foot.
[16:38] Speaker 1: But anyway, so he's meandering back and forth and he's
[16:41] Speaker 1: doing it for me, I know he is. And finally
[16:44] Speaker 1: when I get within a few hundred yards, he he
[16:47] Speaker 1: walks off. So personally, I've gotten. I've seen him many
[16:52] Speaker 1: many times, but that's a very typical sighting where I'm
[16:59] Speaker 1: not very close. Now I have been close. I've been
[17:02] Speaker 1: very close. One time, I was walking out on this
[17:08] Speaker 1: one road and one was standing by a tree. I
[17:12] Speaker 1: didn't even see him. I would have walked right by him.
[17:16] Speaker 1: He was blending right into the tree. I looked left,
[17:18] Speaker 1: I looked right, you know, I'm looking for sasquats right
[17:21] Speaker 1: and left. And I start to turn my head and
[17:25] Speaker 1: he moves. He moves. I started to turn my head
[17:28] Speaker 1: away from him, and he moves and takes off into
[17:30] Speaker 1: the woods. He's like ten feet fifteen feet away from
[17:35] Speaker 1: me at the most when he did that, and I
[17:39] Speaker 1: just lunged in after him because I wanted to see
[17:41] Speaker 1: him running away. And so finally I get through the underbrush,
[17:46] Speaker 1: you know, the brush lining the road, and he's gone.
[17:52] Speaker 1: It's completely silent still, and there's big trees back there,
[17:58] Speaker 1: but I didn't think there were big enough for him
[18:01] Speaker 1: to hide behind, because he was just huge and I'm
[18:04] Speaker 1: not sure how big he was. It was just this bulk,
[18:07] Speaker 1: you know, like a Volkswagen size human or being, you know,
[18:12] Speaker 1: covered in hair, and that was a he was dark brown, darkish,
[18:18] Speaker 1: maybe even black, but no, I'd say dark brown. But anyway,
[18:24] Speaker 1: also out in that same area, I think that they
[18:27] Speaker 1: have family get togethers because I heard two talk. And
[18:34] Speaker 1: this is early on, so you know, I'm not ready
[18:36] Speaker 1: to go lungeon after him or anything. But I hear
[18:40] Speaker 1: him talk on the other side of a berm that's
[18:42] Speaker 1: covered with brush, and I thought, are those two bears.
[18:47] Speaker 1: I don't think those are two bears, and bears aren't
[18:49] Speaker 1: really talking, so I knew who they were. Anyways, I
[18:54] Speaker 1: listened for a while, but I couldn't understand any of it.
[18:56] Speaker 1: But they're talking real low, and they knew I was there.
[18:59] Speaker 1: I know they do they did. I start walking out
[19:02] Speaker 1: and down a spur. I hear this little girl again
[19:07] Speaker 1: scream and I thought to myself, that's the Beckel clan.
[19:11] Speaker 1: They're twenty miles away from where they were. Because of
[19:15] Speaker 1: that girl when she screamed at me, I realized, Oh,
[19:19] Speaker 1: that's that same girl that went oh when I put
[19:22] Speaker 1: my guitar away. You know. So they do travel some,
[19:27] Speaker 1: and I think that is where they were gathering for
[19:29] Speaker 1: a fish run. That time of year, there's a chum
[19:34] Speaker 1: fish run that lasts it's very brief. And speaking of that,
[19:40] Speaker 1: by the way, before I even had big Foot in
[19:43] Speaker 1: my head, one time I was fishing up another river
[19:48] Speaker 1: and I saw these chum salmon lined up on the
[19:51] Speaker 1: embankment and I thought, wow, that's odd. I didn't think
[19:55] Speaker 1: bears did it. And plus they weren't scratched up, you know,
[19:58] Speaker 1: or anything. Very pristine fish, and I thought, well, maybe, uh,
[20:06] Speaker 1: maybe maybe the fisheries people do that, and that's what
[20:09] Speaker 1: my thought was my And then later, uh, I find
[20:13] Speaker 1: it again in that's the same area where I was
[20:16] Speaker 1: talking about, where I think the families gather and they
[20:19] Speaker 1: have a you know, sort of a reunion and then
[20:22] Speaker 1: they they harvest the fish. I saw it again, a
[20:26] Speaker 1: lineup of fish on the embankment. So one day I'm
[20:29] Speaker 1: out there and the fisheries guys were there. There are
[20:33] Speaker 1: two of them. Uh. They were you know, taking scale
[20:35] Speaker 1: samples and measuring the fish and such, and I asked
[20:39] Speaker 1: them why they line them up on the embankment like that,
[20:43] Speaker 1: and they kind of looked at each other and looked
[20:44] Speaker 1: at me and go, oh, we don't do that, okay,
[20:49] Speaker 1: WHOA all right? So that was probably sasquats that do that.
[20:52] Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know why uh they do. They do
[20:56] Speaker 1: some interesting things, you know, build uh meat structures. I've
[21:00] Speaker 1: so many structures, tpees and tent tent types, dome tents
[21:08] Speaker 1: and and you know pup tent types, you know those kind. Uh.
[21:14] Speaker 1: I just found a tepee structure up in Wainouchi area
[21:20] Speaker 1: place that I camped last year, and they came in
[21:23] Speaker 1: and uh into my camp that night, and uh it
[21:28] Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Uh. The juvenile that I
[21:31] Speaker 1: had been calling back and forth to earlier and we
[21:35] Speaker 1: had a twenty minute back and forth earlier in the day.
[21:38] Speaker 1: It was so so much fun. That's that's one of
[21:41] Speaker 1: the things that we love doing. Uh. And that's one
[21:44] Speaker 1: of the reasons why we like to get out in
[21:45] Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, you know. I mean I heard
[21:48] Speaker 1: one call from my back deck last night. I mean
[21:52] Speaker 1: I was back there and called from the up on
[21:54] Speaker 1: the ridge. But I really can't call back to them,
[21:59] Speaker 1: you know, when he's there, because they've got neighbors and stuff.
[22:03] Speaker 1: So when you're out in the middle of nowhere, then
[22:05] Speaker 1: we can call back to him. We have a blast
[22:08] Speaker 1: call him back to him. Usually they use barred owl
[22:12] Speaker 1: type calls, but you can tell the difference between an
[22:15] Speaker 1: owl and a sasquatch. Believe me, the volume is five
[22:19] Speaker 1: times greater. There's also, you know, sometimes like a human
[22:26] Speaker 1: quality to it as well. And I sent Vic a
[22:34] Speaker 1: recording of that so you could listen to that and
[22:37] Speaker 1: and and hear what they sound like. So anyway, this
[22:41] Speaker 1: kind of thing happens, but some other very very strange
[22:45] Speaker 1: things happen, and you know, I mean metaphysical things, you know,
[22:50] Speaker 1: beyond just the telepathy. Oh, I want to mention that
[22:54] Speaker 1: I didn't just take it for granted that they're telepathic.
[22:59] Speaker 1: I start suspen having suspicions pretty early on, really, and
[23:06] Speaker 1: then I decided, after about you know, five years or so,
[23:10] Speaker 1: I decided to do a test and hope that they
[23:16] Speaker 1: would cooperate with the test. And so I ran six tests.
[23:21] Speaker 1: And I would take a pebble and I'd go out
[23:22] Speaker 1: in the woods and i'd i'd you know, lift some moss,
[23:28] Speaker 1: and I put the pebble under the moss and smooth
[23:31] Speaker 1: it down so you couldn't even tell it was there.
[23:32] Speaker 1: I'd send them a picture of where it was, and
[23:36] Speaker 1: they found it every time. That was three times in
[23:40] Speaker 1: two different areas too, So it wasn't the same group.
[23:44] Speaker 1: Then I ran three other tests. The first one, actually
[23:47] Speaker 1: the first one I ran, was was just I asked
[23:50] Speaker 1: for a vocal and got one from mister Ed, who
[23:52] Speaker 1: never talks unless he has something to say. I've only
[23:55] Speaker 1: heard him twice and that was the first time, so
[23:58] Speaker 1: that was kind of cool. So it starts to get
[24:03] Speaker 1: really crazy. So what we put wildlife cameras out there
[24:08] Speaker 1: when we didn't know they work? Didn't work. That was
[24:11] Speaker 1: the first thing we did. And I put a wildlife
[24:14] Speaker 1: camera out there, and we put KFC in a tree,
[24:18] Speaker 1: you know, a branch across the way there, and thought, oh,
[24:21] Speaker 1: we're going to get them, We're going to get a picture. No,
[24:26] Speaker 1: what I think is that they can detect the energy
[24:30] Speaker 1: coming from you know, even if it's not infrared, they
[24:33] Speaker 1: can detect the energy of the battery of that wildlife camera.
[24:38] Speaker 1: And this is something that I've actually seen deer do
[24:43] Speaker 1: in YouTube videos too. You know, they'll be walking along
[24:48] Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, boom, their head turns right
[24:50] Speaker 1: at the camera because they detected it. So anyway, that
[24:56] Speaker 1: didn't work. But what we did get was a strange
[24:59] Speaker 1: light shining down from above. Now I'm talking about being
[25:02] Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere, and for twenty minutes,
[25:05] Speaker 1: something hovered and shone a light down at the wildlife
[25:10] Speaker 1: camera from different angles twenty two minutes. And you know,
[25:14] Speaker 1: it's not a helicopter because there's no downwash. What was
[25:18] Speaker 1: triggering the camera was a breeze from the south that
[25:21] Speaker 1: was moving a branch. And so you know, we took
[25:27] Speaker 1: a look at the pictures and we kind of joked, wow,
[25:29] Speaker 1: we were trying to get a picture of a sasquatch
[25:31] Speaker 1: and we got a UFO. Now. Soon after that, we
[25:38] Speaker 1: were driving back from a band practice in Elma from Elma, Washington,
[25:43] Speaker 1: and I had to drop my two band members off
[25:46] Speaker 1: in Aberdeen and then drive home. And so we're driving
[25:51] Speaker 1: down the highway and I'm talking music and next thing
[25:54] Speaker 1: you know, this big white thing comes flying right over
[25:58] Speaker 1: the car, not making it no, it does a right
[26:02] Speaker 1: ascending turn and then turns back sharply and crosses the
[26:09] Speaker 1: highway in front of us. And then we can watch it.
[26:11] Speaker 1: We can see it for like seven or eight minutes
[26:13] Speaker 1: as it slowly drifts towards Aberdeen, and we're driving the
[26:18] Speaker 1: highway towards that way, and before it disappeared. So that
[26:23] Speaker 1: was That was the first UFO that I actually saw
[26:27] Speaker 1: in my life. Shocking thing. I'm a surprised, surprising thing.
[26:33] Speaker 1: I want you to know that I'm a pretty calm
[26:35] Speaker 1: person and so it takes a lot for me to
[26:38] Speaker 1: get an adrenaline rush. Even so, it didn't frighten me.
[26:44] Speaker 1: It didn't worry me or at all. None of this
[26:46] Speaker 1: stuff really does it all. And that's kind of a
[26:50] Speaker 1: weird quirk of my personality, I guess. But anyway, so
[26:57] Speaker 1: that happened. And then of course I'm out backpacking with
[27:01] Speaker 1: a couple of my cousins and triangular UFO comes drifting
[27:07] Speaker 1: over a ridge, completely silent, and that was actually an
[27:13] Speaker 1: insight for several seconds. And it's funny because we had
[27:17] Speaker 1: a camera right there, really good camera. Nobody thought to
[27:21] Speaker 1: grab the camera because we're all shocked, you know, we're
[27:25] Speaker 1: all in awe, our jaws are dropping to the ground.
[27:28] Speaker 1: We're just watching this thing as it drifts by. So
[27:31] Speaker 1: that was the second one, and then I've seen several since,
[27:35] Speaker 1: mostly at night. A lot of times at night I'll
[27:39] Speaker 1: just get a big bright flash if I'm on my
[27:42] Speaker 1: back deck. And the last two nights I've been on
[27:44] Speaker 1: my back deck because it's been clear, and if I'm
[27:48] Speaker 1: not my back deck when it's clear, I'm out camping.
[27:53] Speaker 1: I've camped nine times so far this year, so I
[27:56] Speaker 1: spent a lot of times out out there, and I
[28:00] Speaker 1: took two grand nephews camping. Last week, we spent a
[28:05] Speaker 1: couple of nights at Clear Lake and it was the
[28:08] Speaker 1: first camp this year that nothing happened. So that was
[28:13] Speaker 1: kind of a surprise to me because the prior to
[28:16] Speaker 1: eight camps, four of those solo and the other four
[28:19] Speaker 1: with my friend Russell. We've heard them every time and
[28:26] Speaker 1: even seen them. My friend Russell, he's the one that
[28:30] Speaker 1: rides in the passenger's side and I'm the driver, so
[28:33] Speaker 1: a lot of times he sees him and I don't.
[28:36] Speaker 1: I've seen him a couple of times in the last year,
[28:39] Speaker 1: and he's probably seen him six times, you know, last year.
[28:43] Speaker 1: But one was very unusual, and I want to mention
[28:46] Speaker 1: this one and January eighteenth, I know the date, January eighteenth.
[28:52] Speaker 1: We got up really early. Russell came and stayed at
[28:56] Speaker 1: my house and I had a presentation to make in
[28:59] Speaker 1: ocean shores, because they're seeing them in ocean Shores. So
[29:04] Speaker 1: they formed this little group and invited me to give
[29:08] Speaker 1: a presentation at the library there. So we were on
[29:11] Speaker 1: our way there and it's still dark outside, and we
[29:16] Speaker 1: just got past the casino exit and there's a sasquat
[29:21] Speaker 1: standing right next to the road, I mean right next
[29:23] Speaker 1: to it, like five week feet off the road, and
[29:28] Speaker 1: I'm going fifty so I'm driving right by him, you know,
[29:30] Speaker 1: before I even see him, He's almost by me. And
[29:33] Speaker 1: I asked, Russell, did you see that? And he said no,
[29:37] Speaker 1: And so we went to McDonald's ate breakfast. By then
[29:40] Speaker 1: it was light out, and I wanted to drive back
[29:42] Speaker 1: to see if there was a statue. Maybe they erected
[29:44] Speaker 1: a statue down there, you know, near the near the
[29:47] Speaker 1: exit or the entrance to the casino. So we drive
[29:53] Speaker 1: back and there was no statue, and my friend actually
[29:56] Speaker 1: saw him. He said it was kind of back in
[29:59] Speaker 1: the would a little bit, hiding behind a tree. He
[30:02] Speaker 1: said his face was was obscured by the tree. And
[30:05] Speaker 1: he said he was poking out on both sides with
[30:07] Speaker 1: his big shoulders, you know. He said it was almost comical.
[30:11] Speaker 1: So anyway that happened, Well, what's funny is is my
[30:16] Speaker 1: my presentation to the Ocean Shores group. The title of
[30:20] Speaker 1: it was, you know, the Telepathic Angle. So so they
[30:27] Speaker 1: showed me that they were telepathic for sure. They knew
[30:29] Speaker 1: we were coming, or he knew we were coming and
[30:33] Speaker 1: stood there and gave us a view. That's what I
[30:36] Speaker 1: want to say. Most of the time, when you see him,
[30:38] Speaker 1: it's because they're allowing you to see him. They want
[30:41] Speaker 1: you to see him. Every once in a while. You know,
[30:44] Speaker 1: they're not perfect. They'll make a mistake in my in
[30:49] Speaker 1: my opinion, and from reading the DNA evidence, you know,
[30:53] Speaker 1: they're They're basically human. They're us. The only difference is
[30:57] Speaker 1: their size. And I think they've developed those abilities. Uh
[31:04] Speaker 1: you know, their their their energy manipulation. Uh. You know
[31:08] Speaker 1: I was watching uh a calm puddle uh go turbulent
[31:15] Speaker 1: one time and it completely you know calm atmosphere. Uh.
[31:23] Speaker 1: And that was them showing me that, yeah, we can,
[31:26] Speaker 1: we can do that kind of thing, you know, telekinesis stuff.
[31:31] Speaker 1: Uh another time. Uh, Okay, I'm going to tell you
[31:38] Speaker 1: this weird story. Uh so Uh, I had this number
[31:43] Speaker 1: three two seven, and I had it for years and
[31:47] Speaker 1: I didn't know why that was my number. But if
[31:49] Speaker 1: someone asked me why what my number was? It was
[31:51] Speaker 1: three two seven. I did not know why anyway. When
[31:55] Speaker 1: I went to my first uh uh Sasquat summit, I
[32:01] Speaker 1: just went into the hotel and asked if someone had
[32:04] Speaker 1: canceled a reservation. She said, yes, someone just did and
[32:09] Speaker 1: it was room three two seven. And I just felt
[32:12] Speaker 1: a huge chill at that moment because I knew something
[32:16] Speaker 1: was up, that it had a connection with Sasquatch somehow
[32:20] Speaker 1: that number. Then at that convention, I met Joe Joe Houser,
[32:28] Speaker 1: who owns the Montana Vortex, and I felt compelled I
[32:36] Speaker 1: have to go there and check that vortex out. And
[32:39] Speaker 1: so it took me another year, but I managed to
[32:43] Speaker 1: get over there, and we went out at night, and
[32:45] Speaker 1: all kinds of things happened unattached shadows and doors were
[32:49] Speaker 1: opening and closing by themselves. He was taking pictures and
[32:51] Speaker 1: seeing orbs floating around me. And at one point we're
[32:56] Speaker 1: in the House of Mystery they call it. We're just
[32:59] Speaker 1: leaning up against the window and we're talking nice and quiet,
[33:02] Speaker 1: and uh we could hear we could hear some grumbling
[33:08] Speaker 1: a few feet away, and Joe says, he's here, and
[33:11] Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I know, so Joe finally he put
[33:15] Speaker 1: a camera in that room, and the first first thing
[33:20] Speaker 1: he catches is what looks like the outline of a sasquatch,
[33:24] Speaker 1: you know, on the cone head and no neck and
[33:27] Speaker 1: the big shoulders and stuff. But he was completely white,
[33:31] Speaker 1: you know, just bright like a bright white light. And
[33:35] Speaker 1: then he morphed into into it like a mist and
[33:41] Speaker 1: floated up and disappeared. Ah. So, uh, you know these
[33:47] Speaker 1: things when you when you when you see him. And
[33:51] Speaker 1: I saw that. Two thousand people saw that. He showed
[33:54] Speaker 1: that within two weeks of filming it at the Quinnall Casino. Uh.
[34:01] Speaker 1: It makes you realize that there's really something going on
[34:05] Speaker 1: here that's way beyond three D. So later I go
[34:12] Speaker 1: down to watch podcast down in Live down in Cottage Grove,
[34:21] Speaker 1: and as I'm leaving there, I'm driving to the coast
[34:25] Speaker 1: to a town called uh what's that town called? Well,
[34:31] Speaker 1: it doesn't matter anyway. The signage was awful and I
[34:36] Speaker 1: couldn't find my way there, you know, by reading the
[34:42] Speaker 1: road signs or you know. And I didn't have GPS.
[34:45] Speaker 1: You know, I'm old fashioned guys, so I didn't have
[34:47] Speaker 1: any of that. So I decided, well, just follow the sun,
[34:50] Speaker 1: you know, sun sets in the west, and I'll just
[34:52] Speaker 1: keep going west. I got on this lonely highway. Probably
[34:57] Speaker 1: two cars came in forty five minutes driving on that road.
[35:01] Speaker 1: It wasn't really a road highway, it was a road.
[35:05] Speaker 1: And I came around one corner and there was this
[35:08] Speaker 1: bear and it looked like a completely pristine yearling to me,
[35:13] Speaker 1: you know, all bright and shiny and black and beautiful.
[35:16] Speaker 1: I was all excited because I just had the thought
[35:19] Speaker 1: that I wanted to see a bear after Joe Houser
[35:22] Speaker 1: had posted a picture of a bear and two cubs
[35:26] Speaker 1: that he took, and so but I started to break because,
[35:30] Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know what the bear was going
[35:31] Speaker 1: to do. Well, the bear turned right in front of
[35:33] Speaker 1: me and took a leap off of the road. There
[35:39] Speaker 1: was an embankment there, but there was nothing on the embankment.
[35:42] Speaker 1: It was pretty much barren. And he disappeared into this
[35:47] Speaker 1: like invisible wall right off the road, and so I
[35:51] Speaker 1: stopped right there where that you know invisible wall was,
[35:55] Speaker 1: and just I sat there for for about three minutes
[36:00] Speaker 1: thinking about what just happened. How did they train that
[36:04] Speaker 1: bear to do that? And why here Now, at the time,
[36:11] Speaker 1: I was reading a book called The Golden Vortext by
[36:16] Speaker 1: Nick Nelson, and I thought to myself, well, he's got
[36:19] Speaker 1: these vortexts areas mapped in his book. So I looked
[36:25] Speaker 1: on on the one of those charts, and sure enough,
[36:29] Speaker 1: there was a regional vortex a demarcation line that went
[36:33] Speaker 1: right through that area. And so they performed that trick
[36:37] Speaker 1: on that demarcation line. But the other thing that I've decided,
[36:42] Speaker 1: my friend Rob Good can't think his last name anyway,
[36:51] Speaker 1: he wrote a book, Rob Alli. Thank you. Rob Alli
[36:56] Speaker 1: wrote a book. He's never really seen or had much interaction,
[37:01] Speaker 1: although I took him out one day and we heard
[37:03] Speaker 1: some knocks and stuff. So he got that out of
[37:06] Speaker 1: the system. But what he did was interview people. And
[37:10] Speaker 1: he interviewed these three men who were up somewhere in
[37:15] Speaker 1: the Inland passage or up in Alasket somewhere that were
[37:19] Speaker 1: tooling along in their boat. There were three of them,
[37:22] Speaker 1: and they saw this guy walking along this deserted shoreline
[37:26] Speaker 1: and they kind of worried about him, because, you know,
[37:28] Speaker 1: what's he doing out there? So they started putting over
[37:33] Speaker 1: there to find out what the hey, you know, and
[37:38] Speaker 1: as they got closer, they realized that's not a dude,
[37:41] Speaker 1: that's a sasquatch. But they kept going, and they said
[37:45] Speaker 1: that the sasquatch morphed into an otter and kept walking. Well,
[37:53] Speaker 1: when I read that story, I thought about that bear
[37:56] Speaker 1: and realized, Oh, they didn't train a bear. They ship
[38:01] Speaker 1: shape shifted. And I'm not sure exactly how they did that.
[38:05] Speaker 1: Did they inject the idea that I'm looking at a
[38:09] Speaker 1: bear or did they actually morph into a bear. It's
[38:14] Speaker 1: hard to say. Now. I have another friend, his name's
[38:20] Speaker 1: Henry Franzoni, and he wrote a book on this stuff,
[38:23] Speaker 1: and I highly recommend it. It's very it's very technical,
[38:30] Speaker 1: but he also puts it in layman's words and explains,
[38:34] Speaker 1: you know, how dimensions work, and how this shape shifting
[38:38] Speaker 1: stuff can work, how cloaking can work. And I've experienced
[38:43] Speaker 1: cloaking a few times. They certainly can cloak. I can
[38:48] Speaker 1: tell you that I've seen one where it was a
[38:52] Speaker 1: female and she was she was like like the predator type,
[38:57] Speaker 1: you know, where you could see through her. But I
[38:59] Speaker 1: also had one run right by me so close that
[39:02] Speaker 1: I felt the pressure on my face change and I
[39:05] Speaker 1: could hear him and feel him, but I couldn't see him.
[39:10] Speaker 1: He was huge. I think that was my teacher. That
[39:13] Speaker 1: was that area out there. So anyway, so what I'm
[39:20] Speaker 1: saying is there's UFOs. There's all kinds of strangeness involved
[39:23] Speaker 1: in this thing. So now I just want to talk
[39:27] Speaker 1: about this weekend, which is kind of cool. I spent
[39:32] Speaker 1: two nights on my deck, like I said, and the
[39:35] Speaker 1: first night Friday, I guess Saturday, Saturday, I'm sitting on
[39:41] Speaker 1: my deck and it's just starting to get pretty dark out,
[39:46] Speaker 1: you know, where the stars are coming out really well.
[39:49] Speaker 1: And I heard what, at first I thought sounded like
[39:52] Speaker 1: a bbie zipping through the trees, but I didn't hear
[39:55] Speaker 1: a bb gun, you know, the report from the bb
[39:57] Speaker 1: gun or anything. And that made me wonder a little bit,
[40:02] Speaker 1: and it got me on alert. And then a pebble
[40:06] Speaker 1: comes through and I thought, oh, there's one heighten under
[40:12] Speaker 1: the bows of my cedar tree in the back of
[40:16] Speaker 1: my yard. There. It's a good sized cedar tree, and
[40:19] Speaker 1: I leave the bows untrimmed for that purpose because they've
[40:23] Speaker 1: been to my house several times. And then he starts
[40:28] Speaker 1: rapping on something. I don't know what he was rapping on,
[40:31] Speaker 1: but every fifteen seconds or so he'd rap, and eventually
[40:35] Speaker 1: I saw my neighbor. I have these new neighbors. They're
[40:38] Speaker 1: kitty corner to me, and I don't know if they
[40:39] Speaker 1: know anything about you know, me, or what I do.
[40:43] Speaker 1: Most my neighbors are aware of it. And I saw
[40:46] Speaker 1: the light come on their house, and then the man
[40:50] Speaker 1: came out with a flashlight and shined it down in
[40:54] Speaker 1: my woods, but he didn't shine it towards the cedar tree.
[40:57] Speaker 1: But as he came out with a flashlight, I heard
[41:00] Speaker 1: my friend maneuver a little bit, and uh, it was
[41:04] Speaker 1: getting a little cool by then, so I was about
[41:07] Speaker 1: ready to go in, but I went and stood in
[41:10] Speaker 1: the in the lawn for about five minutes next to
[41:13] Speaker 1: my apple tree, just to see if he would come out.
[41:17] Speaker 1: But he didn't, so I went to bed. And then
[41:20] Speaker 1: last night I was out there again, and it was
[41:24] Speaker 1: just it was just after sunset, not too long after sunset,
[41:29] Speaker 1: and one came and called to me a few times.
[41:31] Speaker 1: It might have been the same one, although that one,
[41:34] Speaker 1: I believe the one that's visiting me is a young one.
[41:41] Speaker 1: I saw him last year in my trees and in
[41:47] Speaker 1: my thought he wasn't much bigger than me. If he
[41:49] Speaker 1: was bigger than me, but of course, you know this
[41:51] Speaker 1: is a year later, he might be a little bit
[41:53] Speaker 1: bigger than that. So anyway, Yeah, for quite a while
[42:00] Speaker 1: I knew they were visiting my house, and but I
[42:05] Speaker 1: wasn't seeing him. It was kind of frustrating. And then
[42:09] Speaker 1: my next door neighbor, Ruth made she rest in peace.
[42:14] Speaker 1: She's dead now, but she was an absolute skeptic, did
[42:21] Speaker 1: not believe my stories. Her husband had seen one when
[42:24] Speaker 1: he was when he was up ten in the fire
[42:27] Speaker 1: one night, you know, one of those slash burns when
[42:32] Speaker 1: he was a logger, and so so he believed, but
[42:36] Speaker 1: she didn't. She rolled her eyes every time I told
[42:39] Speaker 1: him a story. Uh. And then and then she saw
[42:43] Speaker 1: one next to my house one night. She was laying
[42:46] Speaker 1: on the swing couch that they have in their backyard,
[42:53] Speaker 1: and she said, for some reason, she woke up. And
[42:56] Speaker 1: I know it's why she woke up, because I was
[42:59] Speaker 1: awake on my back deck and I heard one running
[43:02] Speaker 1: through my front yard, my backyard. It only took about
[43:05] Speaker 1: two seconds for him to cover you know, several yards,
[43:11] Speaker 1: So I jumped up, but I was too late to
[43:13] Speaker 1: see him and then I started looking around for him
[43:16] Speaker 1: and I couldn't find him. So eventually I went in
[43:20] Speaker 1: my house. This was probably in October. It was one
[43:23] Speaker 1: of the last warm days, you know, real warm days
[43:26] Speaker 1: that you can lay out on. Well, when she rolled over,
[43:31] Speaker 1: she said she saw him standing in between two of
[43:36] Speaker 1: my windows, next to my front porch, with his hands
[43:40] Speaker 1: out and kind of looking back and forth like he
[43:42] Speaker 1: expected me to come around the corner or something. And
[43:47] Speaker 1: I should have. I wish i'd pursued him more because
[43:51] Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, at that time, a lot
[43:53] Speaker 1: of it too. I just thought, you know, I give
[43:56] Speaker 1: them the opportunity to show themselves to me if they want.
[43:59] Speaker 1: I'm not of go jumping into the bush and try
[44:02] Speaker 1: to find him and look at him, you know. And
[44:05] Speaker 1: I don't take pictures, but like I said, in fact
[44:09] Speaker 1: one is a full length picture. Every once in a
[44:11] Speaker 1: while'll show up in our pictures that we take out there.
[44:15] Speaker 1: So anyway, she knocked on my door one day and
[44:18] Speaker 1: she said, I want to explain that sign to you.
[44:20] Speaker 1: And she had a sign erected on the side of
[44:23] Speaker 1: the house and it said sasquat sighting here in here
[44:26] Speaker 1: at your own risk, and she explained that a story
[44:31] Speaker 1: to me that was so funny. And then what was
[44:34] Speaker 1: funny also is that she had told all her grandkids
[44:37] Speaker 1: I was, you know, full of it, and don't listen
[44:39] Speaker 1: to me, and then she had to go back and
[44:41] Speaker 1: tell him, oh, no, he's right real. I've seen one myself.
[44:48] Speaker 1: So that was that was just a Saturday, and last
[44:52] Speaker 1: night that's you know, I think it was makeup because
[44:58] Speaker 1: I didn't have any content for about ten days. You know,
[45:02] Speaker 1: we've been going out a lot, and so we've been
[45:05] Speaker 1: hearing them a lot. And like I said, they like
[45:07] Speaker 1: the bard owl calls, and I think that might be
[45:10] Speaker 1: like between friends and family, the barn owl calls. You'll
[45:14] Speaker 1: hear the other ones in other circumstances. And it's a
[45:17] Speaker 1: little frustrating to me because now I don't get those
[45:20] Speaker 1: recorded like I used to, you know, you know that
[45:24] Speaker 1: kind of thing. They don't. They don't do that much
[45:28] Speaker 1: around us. One night, after I talked to and I'm
[45:35] Speaker 1: trying to think his name, famous guy had a movie
[45:38] Speaker 1: made after him, The Dark Divide. Anyway, I talked to
[45:47] Speaker 1: that guy and played him my recordings, the same ones
[45:49] Speaker 1: that I sent you Vic, and he said they're just
[45:54] Speaker 1: bard owl's and I said, no, they're not. If you
[45:58] Speaker 1: listen really careful on that recording, you can actually hear
[46:02] Speaker 1: them shuffling around and bart owls, you know, their wings
[46:06] Speaker 1: don't make it sound, so you wouldn't be able to
[46:07] Speaker 1: hear any shuffling of feet going here and there and everywhere.
[46:14] Speaker 1: So anyway, that night I camped out at a place
[46:19] Speaker 1: called Radar Lake, which is known for sasquatch sidings and
[46:24] Speaker 1: interactions and stuff local one near Nasel, Washington, and I
[46:30] Speaker 1: asked them, you know, could I have something different instead
[46:33] Speaker 1: of the old bart alcohols? How about doing something different
[46:36] Speaker 1: for me? And instead they whistled and they beat drums,
[46:42] Speaker 1: So it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought they'd
[46:45] Speaker 1: give me a vocal some sort, but that's the way
[46:48] Speaker 1: it goes, you know. So anyway, we got another trip
[46:53] Speaker 1: planned Wednesday, I think, yeah, Wednesday, which is only the
[46:59] Speaker 1: day after tomorrow. So I've been working a little bit
[47:01] Speaker 1: today and getting ready for that. Russell and I are
[47:04] Speaker 1: going to go up to Mount Rainier National Park, first
[47:08] Speaker 1: time I've ever gone in there, you know, for sasquatching
[47:14] Speaker 1: to make contact with him. And there's a place called
[47:18] Speaker 1: Bumping Lake, we're going to go there and see if
[47:20] Speaker 1: we can make contact with him. We'll see what happens.
[47:24] Speaker 1: But my friend Russell is a catalyst too. You know,
[47:31] Speaker 1: they're coming to his home as well. He lives in
[47:33] Speaker 1: a trailer park not far from my five and one
[47:42] Speaker 1: night recently, I'm talking to him on the phone and
[47:45] Speaker 1: I hear this big bang and he goes, oh, they
[47:47] Speaker 1: threw another one's They were tossing pebbles at his door
[47:53] Speaker 1: while he was talking to me on the phone. Now,
[47:56] Speaker 1: they only did that while we were talking on the phone,
[48:00] Speaker 1: not before and not after, but during they were throwing
[48:04] Speaker 1: pebbals at like acknowledgment. Hey, we know you guys are talking.
[48:10] Speaker 1: I think that's kind of funny. Also, his neighbors there
[48:13] Speaker 1: at the trailer park have seen them in the trailer park,
[48:20] Speaker 1: so you know, now they know where he's at and
[48:23] Speaker 1: they know where I'm at, and they can It's kind
[48:27] Speaker 1: of fun. I enjoy it, you know, especially when the
[48:31] Speaker 1: juveniles come in camp. I had a camp out two
[48:37] Speaker 1: years ago in May. They had taken him like a
[48:42] Speaker 1: year to guide me to this spot, and once I
[48:45] Speaker 1: got there, I realized, oh, this is the spot because
[48:48] Speaker 1: there was a dome structure that was built there. And
[48:51] Speaker 1: I also found a tpe further down the road in
[48:55] Speaker 1: the woods, and so I set up camp there and
[48:58] Speaker 1: spent the night there. And and I don't put a
[49:02] Speaker 1: rain fly on my on my tent because I want
[49:05] Speaker 1: to see outside, you know, I want to see the
[49:07] Speaker 1: stars and if they happen to come through, I want
[49:09] Speaker 1: to see them. So it was really dark night, there
[49:13] Speaker 1: was no moon, and and I this is what they
[49:18] Speaker 1: did for me there though, and it was really cool.
[49:20] Speaker 1: They started off the juveniles start off with coyote calls.
[49:26] Speaker 1: They were doing coyote calls, and then the adults were
[49:31] Speaker 1: off in the distance doing barret al calls. And then
[49:35] Speaker 1: halfway through that recording, they switched places so that now
[49:40] Speaker 1: the barred al calls are right next to the tent
[49:42] Speaker 1: that that that camp, and the coyote calls are way
[49:45] Speaker 1: off in the distance, and they're going crazy out there too. There.
[49:48] Speaker 1: It was really fun recording. Anyway, I'm not sure if
[49:53] Speaker 1: it was that night. I think it was another night
[49:56] Speaker 1: that I stayed there, and U and one of them
[49:59] Speaker 1: came in. And it's funny, how you know you telepath ache,
[50:02] Speaker 1: You got this telepathic connection. I just felt it was
[50:05] Speaker 1: the young female that came into the camp, and I
[50:09] Speaker 1: sat up and I tried to see her, but I
[50:11] Speaker 1: couldn't because it was too dark, and I'm just trying
[50:14] Speaker 1: to adjust my eyes and I'm looking and I'm looking,
[50:16] Speaker 1: and I'm going back and forth, and suddenly there's a
[50:19] Speaker 1: bang behind me. So you know, I whipped my head
[50:22] Speaker 1: around to look at the bang, and of course she's gone.
[50:26] Speaker 1: That gave her the opportunity to move and get out
[50:31] Speaker 1: of my camp site. So that's, you know, that's kind
[50:35] Speaker 1: of the stuff they do. We have a lot of
[50:38] Speaker 1: fun out there doing that kind of thing. I've received
[50:43] Speaker 1: all kinds of gifts, crystals, feathers, things like that mostly,
[50:52] Speaker 1: but I consider their vocals a gift. You know. I
[50:55] Speaker 1: go out there and I play music for him every night,
[50:58] Speaker 1: and they appreciate that. I got to tell you, I
[51:00] Speaker 1: know they do. They like that music. So their gift
[51:06] Speaker 1: to me is the vocals. You know, That's the way
[51:09] Speaker 1: I look at it. So you know, they're really shy,
[51:13] Speaker 1: and I wish they'd come in more. I wish last
[51:18] Speaker 1: night or the night before, when I was standing out
[51:20] Speaker 1: in my yard, that he at least stepped out from
[51:23] Speaker 1: you know, the boughs of the tree, and so I
[51:24] Speaker 1: could see him, and like I said, I've seen him
[51:29] Speaker 1: many times. I mean over a dozen times. I don't
[51:31] Speaker 1: even know how many, and every time is a gift
[51:35] Speaker 1: and special. But you know, you always want more. I
[51:40] Speaker 1: want more contact. I want to get I want to
[51:42] Speaker 1: get up in personal with them somehow if I can.
[51:46] Speaker 1: And like I mean, we've had contact now for fourteen years,
[51:51] Speaker 1: and I think it's about time personally, you know, for
[51:55] Speaker 1: us to get a little bit more face to face.
[51:59] Speaker 1: Oh and you wanted me to maybe describe a sasquatch
[52:04] Speaker 1: that I've seen fairly well, I guess that would probably
[52:08] Speaker 1: be the one I saw in Northern California. And I
[52:11] Speaker 1: had one of my grand nephews with me, Xander, that
[52:16] Speaker 1: was he just graduated from high school. This is about
[52:21] Speaker 1: seven years ago, six or seven years ago. And as
[52:26] Speaker 1: we entered northern California, I sent a message to all
[52:29] Speaker 1: the locals. I said, you know, I got my two
[52:32] Speaker 1: nephews with me, and I'd just really be great if
[52:35] Speaker 1: you could find a way to introduce yourself without scaring them.
[52:38] Speaker 1: And so we're driving from Happy Camp the Cave Junction
[52:43] Speaker 1: this Lonely Highway. I can't tell you what it's called.
[52:47] Speaker 1: And we'd stopped for lunch, and then we just had
[52:50] Speaker 1: taken off from that and a crossed a creek bridge
[52:57] Speaker 1: and as we came around a corner, kind of a
[53:00] Speaker 1: corner as you you know, before you cross the bridge,
[53:03] Speaker 1: So I'm looking for I always look when I crossed
[53:07] Speaker 1: the bridges, and we see him a lot. My friend
[53:11] Speaker 1: saw one about a month ago down in the creek
[53:16] Speaker 1: bed here, not too far away when we crossed the bridge.
[53:22] Speaker 1: So anyway, as we came around that corner, here was
[53:27] Speaker 1: a ten foot sasquatch walking up the creek bed towards
[53:33] Speaker 1: the bridge. And I mean he was tall and lean lean.
[53:38] Speaker 1: He was not he didn't have any belly or anything.
[53:42] Speaker 1: He was very lean, looking like a basketball player, only
[53:46] Speaker 1: with these big, huge shoulders of course cinnamon colored. And
[53:52] Speaker 1: just as we came around the corner, that's when I
[53:54] Speaker 1: got probably my best look at the face of a sasquatch.
[53:59] Speaker 1: And to me, it looked very human. The guy looked
[54:06] Speaker 1: very human from head to toe to me, except he
[54:10] Speaker 1: was covered with hair. And I really can't describe his face,
[54:15] Speaker 1: but you know, it's hard to describe it, but it
[54:23] Speaker 1: was you know, dark tan. I guess, a lean face
[54:32] Speaker 1: because he was a lean he had a lean body.
[54:37] Speaker 1: Just human, that's all. That's all I can say. It's
[54:39] Speaker 1: very human. I didn't see well enough to see any
[54:43] Speaker 1: brow ridge or what does our eyebrows looked like? You know,
[54:48] Speaker 1: I just saw a very glancing blow of his face
[54:51] Speaker 1: before before see, the sun was rising behind him. So
[54:55] Speaker 1: once we got around on the bridge itself, the sun
[54:58] Speaker 1: was behind him. And to me, I asked my grand
[55:04] Speaker 1: nephew this, but he said no. But to me, I
[55:08] Speaker 1: thought I saw a vibration around his body, kind of
[55:12] Speaker 1: like an aura, I guess. But my nephew didn't see that.
[55:17] Speaker 1: But he got a really good look because I'm driving,
[55:21] Speaker 1: But he didn't see the face because he didn't see
[55:23] Speaker 1: it until he was on the bridge, until we were
[55:27] Speaker 1: on the bridge, and my other nephew had his face
[55:29] Speaker 1: in his phone. There's a lesson for.
[55:32] Speaker 2: You, russy. Sure do you live an exciting life? I'm jealous.
[55:39] Speaker 1: It's fun.
[55:41] Speaker 2: It is sure, never a dull moment.
[55:44] Speaker 1: No, no, And in fact, you know, I kind of
[55:46] Speaker 1: live in a portal. I you know, man, I believe
[55:50] Speaker 1: I was meant to live in this house. And that's
[55:54] Speaker 1: a long story. And I had to do with that
[55:56] Speaker 1: three two seven and coming back from the Montana vortex.
[55:59] Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna go under the math and all
[56:00] Speaker 1: that that I looked, you know, I looked up on
[56:02] Speaker 1: the map. I felt compelled to check the map and
[56:05] Speaker 1: and and check the angles and the distances and everything,
[56:08] Speaker 1: and and it blew my mind when I figured out,
[56:11] Speaker 1: uh that it looks it appears as if they placed
[56:15] Speaker 1: me in this house that I was meant to be here.
[56:18] Speaker 1: I had two people come up and tell me that
[56:21] Speaker 1: I should buy this house before I bought it, and
[56:23] Speaker 1: those two people don't know each other. It's the only
[56:26] Speaker 1: house I was ever asked to buy, uh, you know,
[56:29] Speaker 1: when I was a young guy. And so I've been
[56:32] Speaker 1: been living in this house ever since. Uh, and so
[56:36] Speaker 1: things happen in this in this house too. My friend Russell,
[56:41] Speaker 1: he's really sensitive, so he can he can see the
[56:44] Speaker 1: spirits once in a while walking around and inside here. Uh,
[56:48] Speaker 1: I can hear him a lot. And uh, yeah, yeah,
[56:53] Speaker 1: it's a strange. It's a strange life. Hmmm.
[56:57] Speaker 2: Well, it's an exciting one. You to give it to you.
[57:00] Speaker 2: It's definitely an exciting one. Would you be okay to
[57:03] Speaker 2: Russ if we played that recording that you sent me
[57:06] Speaker 2: for the listeners.
[57:07] Speaker 1: Oh, please do, and then I'll explain what happened there.
[57:10] Speaker 2: Oh great, I've got a queued up gonna play it now.
[59:19] Speaker 2: Thanks so much for sharing that with us.
[59:22] Speaker 1: You're welcome. This was my first time out by the
[59:26] Speaker 1: way for the year. This was last year, early May,
[59:30] Speaker 1: really early May in twenty twenty four, and the area
[59:35] Speaker 1: was why Nucci and there was really nobody else even
[59:40] Speaker 1: close to me up there. So I was happy about
[59:44] Speaker 1: that because I knew that would relax then a little
[59:46] Speaker 1: bit and maybe get a little bit better interaction. Well,
[59:50] Speaker 1: a lot of times, the first time of the year
[59:52] Speaker 1: is kind of special for them, so they put out
[59:54] Speaker 1: a little bit more than usual. And it was like
[59:59] Speaker 1: right after I set up camp that I heard the
[1:00:01] Speaker 1: first sasquatch right across the road in the woods, and
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: he was giving me as that stuff. I'm not near
[1:00:14] Speaker 1: as good as they are, but he was just letting
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: me know that they were there. And so then later
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: I had a twenty minute back and forth with a
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: juvenile male and he was calling I was calling back,
[1:00:27] Speaker 1: and he would call and I would call and you know,
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: it just went on for like twenty minutes, and then
[1:00:35] Speaker 1: I quit and he quit. So that was the end
[1:00:37] Speaker 1: of that. But then I played my guitar and I
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: beat my drum and I heard another one from another
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: angle three sides now of my campsite, and he made
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: a little bit of a vocalization. I think it was
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: because he liked the drum. He was letting me know, hey,
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: I like that drum, dude. And then later they called,
[1:01:05] Speaker 1: Oh so actually I heard them, wow, okay five times
[1:01:09] Speaker 1: I just realized. So anyway, later they called as I
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: went to bed. But this particular recording was them waking
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: me up in the morning, so it's it's just barely
[1:01:21] Speaker 1: getting light out and they're coming to wake me up.
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: I got my tent fly off so I can see
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: them if they come by the tent, but they stayed
[1:01:31] Speaker 1: above my head where I couldn't see them. You know,
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: that's there's no mash up there where I could see him.
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: And if you listen carefully, you can hear them running around.
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: It's the juvenile that's doing the high pitch scream, and
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: then the adult is back there doing the other bard
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: ol sound. So that was that was pretty funn and
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: my gosh h and believe it or not, I don't
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: think that it even gave me an adrenaline rush. I'm
[1:02:09] Speaker 1: so used to it. When they left, you'll hear me
[1:02:15] Speaker 1: pat my chest three times thanking them. I'm sending them
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: on thank you, thank you so much for you know,
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: for making my trip out here special. That's kind of
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: that's I don't know, I just I just I have
[1:02:31] Speaker 1: so much appreciation and love for these people. You know,
[1:02:35] Speaker 1: they're they're humans. Like humans, they're not all perfect, but
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: because of their shared conscious I think that they're a
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: little more trustworthy than most humans. You know, they really
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: can't lie to each other like we can. You know,
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: they can detect a lie. Also, they can read a
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: person so quickly. You know, they'll see your energy and
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: determine whether you're the kind of human that they want
[1:03:07] Speaker 1: to interact with. And any of you, any of you
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: can interact with them if you want. You just go
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: out in the woods and what I do, I don't
[1:03:19] Speaker 1: always do it, but you know what I do is
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: put my hands on a tree, especially if I'm in
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: a unique area, I'll put my hands on a tree
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: and I'll send love into the tree and out through
[1:03:34] Speaker 1: the roots and out to the wilderness and give thanks,
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: you know, and then I'll send them an invitation to
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: come and interact with me if they so choose. Most
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: of the time they come, almost every time they come.
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't, and that you know up at Crystal
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: or I mean clear Lake recently. I know, I've heard
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: a lot of recent sightings up in the mount Hood area,
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: so I kind of expected a visit, but we didn't
[1:04:08] Speaker 1: get one. And I'm not sure why, you know, maybe
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: it's just I'm not going to speculate on that.
[1:04:18] Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sure does sound like you've got them worked
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: out before we get out of here. Russ, I've got
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: one question for you, and that is I've heard some
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: pretty darn experienced Sasquatch investigators put it out there that
[1:04:31] Speaker 2: if you hear a vocalization that sounds like an al
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: but it has a trill on the end, then it's
[1:04:37] Speaker 2: not one of these guys. The Sasquatch never trill at
[1:04:41] Speaker 2: the end of their owl vocalizations. Oh what do you
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: say to that.
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: Well, I've heard owls out there at the same time
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: I've heard sasquatch. I can tell the difference. The owls.
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: Their volume is a lot less, you know, So that's
[1:04:59] Speaker 1: that's just a I determine it. But a lot of
[1:05:01] Speaker 1: a lot of this is just a feel, you know.
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: I mean, like that one that came into my camp
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: site when it was dark. I just felt that it
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: was a young female, you know what I mean. I'll
[1:05:12] Speaker 1: look at a print and I'll Okay, that's a that's
[1:05:17] Speaker 1: a that's a male, you know. I mean, I you
[1:05:20] Speaker 1: just feel these things, and I know it sounds a
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: little bizarre, but you get connected with them and and
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: you understand a little bit more. Oh, I want to
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: tell this story. Oh, this is a good story. I
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: completely forgot about this story. So I went hiking uh Saturday,
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: And when I was out there, I was acting. I
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: was actually hiking towards an area where I saw a
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: really well defined trail that was across the creek that
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: I know no humans go on, you know, And so
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: I thought, wow, I'll bet you anything they're up there.
[1:06:04] Speaker 1: I want to see what's up there. So I took
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: a special trip out there to see if I could
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: get get across the creek there. I even brought my
[1:06:13] Speaker 1: water moccasin so I didn't have to get my my,
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: you know, go barefoot and or get my shoes wet.
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: So anyway, on the way out there, I started to
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: hear dogs barking, and it didn't sound like coyote to me.
[1:06:32] Speaker 1: Then I thought I heard some some people talking, and
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: I thought, well, nobody could be out here, because my
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: car is the only one parked back there, and there's
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: no way to get out there unless you park back there,
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: you know, unless you're really insane and hike you know,
[1:06:52] Speaker 1: through terrain. But anyway, so I start, I keep walking
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: towards that that area, and I can tell they're kind
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: of retreating a little bit. Then a crow comes flying
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: down the creek and starts circling around me and can
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: at me, and so I call back at it, you know,
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: that's my that's my usual routine. And I thought, you know,
[1:07:22] Speaker 1: that's weird, you know that it keeps circling me like that.
[1:07:26] Speaker 1: And so then I start walking towards the sound, you know,
[1:07:30] Speaker 1: the dogs again, and that crow tightens the circle and
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: gets a little more frantic, and I so wish I
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: had turned my recorder on for this, because I didn't
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: because of the creek being there, you know, the background noise.
[1:07:44] Speaker 1: But I wished I had, because I want to see
[1:07:46] Speaker 1: if those if I actually did hear people talking back there.
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: But anyway, so then I figured out, well, Okay, the
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: crow doesn't want me to go down there, so I'm
[1:07:57] Speaker 1: going to turn around and go back, and I got
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: a crow escort all the way back to the car. Now,
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: the other thing is two miles up that creek we've camped,
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: and from the other end we heard dogs and vocals
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: from Sasquatch from the same area. So I think that
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: there's Sasquatch out there with pet dogs, and there's more
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: than one. More than one dog, there's at least two.
[1:08:27] Speaker 2: It's interesting you mentioned that because I've heard that before.
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: I've heard other people going out and actually witnessing that,
[1:08:34] Speaker 2: So I think there's some there there.
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: Yes, I talked to a lady once that saw a
[1:08:39] Speaker 1: Sasquatch with what she thought was a stray dog. Yep.
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, just to add that to the list of the
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: many amazing things they do and amazing things about them, huh.
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's kind of like a very recent revelation
[1:08:52] Speaker 1: for me. You know that, now I know a group
[1:08:54] Speaker 1: out there that has pet dogs and for some reason,
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: they didn't want me to go up there, and it's
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: probably because as they knew what was in my mind
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: and that was across the creek and go up that trail,
[1:09:06] Speaker 1: and they don't want me to do that.
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, how right, when you think they can't
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: be any more amazing, you discover something like that.
[1:09:14] Speaker 1: Yep.
[1:09:15] Speaker 2: Well, Russ, I can't thank you enough for coming on
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: sharing the details of all these experiences with us. I
[1:09:19] Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
[1:09:21] Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Vic.
[1:09:23] Speaker 2: It's been a great time, and please remember if I
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: can never help you out in the future, let me
[1:09:28] Speaker 2: know I'll be.
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: There for you. Oh you bet, you bet well.
[1:09:33] Speaker 2: Thanks again so much for your time, and have a
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: great night.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: like to be a guest on the show, please go
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[1:09:56] Speaker 1: love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a
[1:10:00] Speaker 1: great knife.

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