# A Bipedal Creature We Call Sasquatch - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 536

An episode of [Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1176349237), 8 May 2026, 1 h 01 min.

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Tonight’s guest, Ken Medsker, is the founder of the Montana Idaho Bigfoot Research Group. He is also a published author of a book about Sasquatch and is about to publish another book on the subject. Ken has been investigating Sasquatch, in the field, for 5 years now and will be sharing some of his experiences, theories, and discoveries with you on tonight’s show. If you’d like to visit the Montana Idaho Bigfoot Research Facebook Group, please us the following link… https://www.facebook.com/groups/673490389991612 If you’d like to purchase a copy of Ken’s first book, titled “A Personal Quest For Understanding BigFoot,” please visit… https://www.amazon.com/Personal-Quest-Understanding-BigFoot/dp/B0DYZXHTP7 If you've had at least one Sasquatch sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. I'd love to hear from you. If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134 Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening!

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: If you've had a bigfoot siding, I would like to
[0:03] Speaker 1: be a guest. Please go to bigfootwitness dot com and
[0:06] Speaker 1: let me know.
[0:08] Speaker 2: My name's Kenneth Metzker. I'm the founder of the Montana,
[0:12] Speaker 2: Idaho Bigfoot Research Group. I'm also a published author on
[0:17] Speaker 2: a book about bigfoot. I've been doing this hardline now
[0:22] Speaker 2: for about five years, being in the field online research.
[0:28] Speaker 2: I'm currently working on another book about bigfoot and it's
[0:33] Speaker 2: a fascinating subject to me because of my personal encounters
[0:38] Speaker 2: with bigfoot things I've seen, heard, smelled, and that. And
[0:47] Speaker 2: it really started in seventy eight with my first bigfoot
[0:52] Speaker 2: siting of whole body sighting at fifty yards coming out
[0:56] Speaker 2: of an alpine lake here in western Montana. Looking that
[1:00] Speaker 2: was not a bear. It was a bipedal creature walking upright.
[1:06] Speaker 2: It had been tearing. It sounded like tearing a log apart.
[1:10] Speaker 2: You could see parts of that wood on its spur
[1:13] Speaker 2: and it was all black and proturning brow high treating eyebrows.
[1:23] Speaker 2: The head was round and not conical, flat nose, the
[1:28] Speaker 2: mouth is open. You can see the upper and lower banks.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Extremely a barrow chest, extremely muscular arms and legs. It
[1:38] Speaker 2: went up the bank, it stopped and looked at me,
[1:42] Speaker 2: and the window was blowing towards It had a creole
[1:44] Speaker 2: pull of fish, so if it come at me, I
[1:48] Speaker 2: could drop those and back away. And it never did.
[1:50] Speaker 2: It just went up the bank and then start parling
[1:53] Speaker 2: the road above me. And when it got behind me,
[1:57] Speaker 2: that's when I really got a good smell of it.
[2:01] Speaker 2: That's the smell you'll never forget. And that smell has
[2:05] Speaker 2: happened to me up in the swan and our field
[2:09] Speaker 2: researches up there. All of a sudden, you get that
[2:12] Speaker 2: smell and you start feeling like you're being watched. Now
[2:16] Speaker 2: bigfoot will stand there and watch you. It's curious about you.
[2:21] Speaker 2: I firmly believe they know within thirty minutes an hour
[2:25] Speaker 2: that you're there, even though you're not doing anything but
[2:31] Speaker 2: set in your camp up that But it's been even
[2:36] Speaker 2: as a child, things would happen. I couldn't explain back then.
[2:41] Speaker 2: I do associate it now with a bipedal creature we
[2:45] Speaker 2: call big pot or sashquatch. Strange wood structures, abandoned cabins
[2:53] Speaker 2: that nests built in them, Caves that had grass piled
[2:58] Speaker 2: as a bedding area, and when you're young, you really
[3:02] Speaker 2: don't really think about it, what's doing it. But now,
[3:07] Speaker 2: after all the research I've gone through, I'm leaning more
[3:11] Speaker 2: and more to being around it, especially when you see
[3:15] Speaker 2: something large walking away from you, you know, eight nine
[3:18] Speaker 2: tenth foot twe and it looks back at you, but
[3:22] Speaker 2: it stays walking. And the other thing that hurts us
[3:25] Speaker 2: who are active bigfoot researchers is these guys in costume
[3:30] Speaker 2: bigpoot costumes going out there having buddies, post video on
[3:35] Speaker 2: post them, Oh this is bigfoot, it's not. Now with AI,
[3:40] Speaker 2: you can pretty much make any kind of bigfoots you
[3:43] Speaker 2: want with AI. So it's getting harder and harder to
[3:46] Speaker 2: prove actual what we're getting. And it's just it's a situation.
[3:52] Speaker 2: Just keep going going, stay on the track, just ignore everything.
[3:57] Speaker 2: I rarely watch any kind of Bigfoot show like Expedition Bigfoot,
[4:02] Speaker 2: Mountain Monsters, Expedition X. Rarely I'll watch those because to me,
[4:09] Speaker 2: they're all scripted. And my question with them to a
[4:13] Speaker 2: lot of that program, do they have to sign a
[4:18] Speaker 2: non disclosure actor the government? They have the evidence, why
[4:24] Speaker 2: aren't they releasing it? And it's just a subject that's
[4:32] Speaker 2: still new but something we have to realize. We have
[4:39] Speaker 2: a species it's worldwide, just not North America, that is
[4:44] Speaker 2: a bipedal evolving primate. This is controversial the build they
[4:54] Speaker 2: have in the Congo. Bipedal primates are actually walking upright
[5:00] Speaker 2: the real friendly. Their pattern of what they do is
[5:03] Speaker 2: similar to what our pigots do. And look at Australia,
[5:09] Speaker 2: anywhere you look in this world, those reports of a
[5:12] Speaker 2: bipedal creature by a different name, but it's the same
[5:15] Speaker 2: same creature. Description may be a little different, life may
[5:19] Speaker 2: be a little different. And that's what's so fascinating about
[5:23] Speaker 2: even doing online research, is digging all this stuff up,
[5:27] Speaker 2: reading about all this stuff, and it's just a fascinating
[5:33] Speaker 2: to me. It's a world of education. I'm a high
[5:37] Speaker 2: school dropout. I hated school, and this has really gotten
[5:43] Speaker 2: me to appreciate studying and researching because it's a subject
[5:51] Speaker 2: subject I really love to do. And this year we're
[5:55] Speaker 2: going to actually have a small voice recorder so when
[5:59] Speaker 2: I talk to the littles a lecture of start getting documented
[6:04] Speaker 2: audio case files of their experiences, which is something I
[6:11] Speaker 2: haven't done before, but it's time I do that because
[6:15] Speaker 2: that's that's all part of the part of our mission statement.
[6:20] Speaker 2: We wanted it available to people, and that's what we're
[6:24] Speaker 2: working towards. But I started going into the mountains when
[6:28] Speaker 2: I was thirteen years old and out of East Missoula,
[6:32] Speaker 2: and that's when I started having seeing unusual things, structures,
[6:38] Speaker 2: hearing vocalizations like coyots that weren't coyotes, owls that weren't owls.
[6:44] Speaker 2: They're good at me making a lot of birds. And
[6:50] Speaker 2: it's always been there. And now I'm a serious, a
[6:54] Speaker 2: very serious researcher on big put Like I said, I've
[6:59] Speaker 2: got my second book coming up released sometime this fall,
[7:04] Speaker 2: and it's going to go worldwide this time. And they
[7:09] Speaker 2: could all be talking about a few things we talked
[7:11] Speaker 2: about while ago in my group. The month in Idaho
[7:15] Speaker 2: Bigfoot Research Group was four and five years ago, and
[7:19] Speaker 2: it was foreign because I got tired of seeing people
[7:22] Speaker 2: get trolled on big Foot sites. They post something photos
[7:28] Speaker 2: and people to troll them. I was determined to have
[7:30] Speaker 2: a group that didn't happen. Our number one rule in
[7:34] Speaker 2: the group is to be respectful. If you're not respectful,
[7:37] Speaker 2: I removed you immediately from the group. I don't play games,
[7:40] Speaker 2: I don't give warnings. I remove you. We're finally getting
[7:45] Speaker 2: people to start opening up about experiences they've been having.
[7:48] Speaker 2: And it's taken almost four years for this to happen.
[7:52] Speaker 2: And we do have members from all over the world.
[7:54] Speaker 2: I do get contacted by them about things that are
[7:57] Speaker 2: going on in art and Wales, China, Russia. So just
[8:05] Speaker 2: not like I said, it's Bigfoot is not local. It's
[8:08] Speaker 2: not native to North America. And the one thing most
[8:16] Speaker 2: people overlook is the Native American culture. Their history goes back,
[8:21] Speaker 2: according to them, to the Black Beat, to Black Boots.
[8:25] Speaker 2: Everyone I've talked to name Americans. Bigfoot was already here
[8:29] Speaker 2: when they cross that land bridge. So and one of
[8:35] Speaker 2: the oldest tribes in North America is to the Black Beat.
[8:39] Speaker 2: That then Moray is the black Wood in the Black Beat.
[8:44] Speaker 2: They are the first Native. Their DNA comes back thousands
[8:50] Speaker 2: of years they've been in this country. So these are
[8:56] Speaker 2: the ones you want to talk to, listen to, and
[9:00] Speaker 2: number one role with Native Americans be respectful. If you're
[9:04] Speaker 2: not respectful, they won't talk to you. Yeah, it's just
[9:10] Speaker 2: it's a learning learning curve. It's all learning, and the
[9:14] Speaker 2: main thing is you have to have an open mind.
[9:17] Speaker 2: Because somebody says something you may not believe in, don't
[9:22] Speaker 2: criticize them unless I personally see it. I don't discount it.
[9:27] Speaker 2: I've never seen a dogment, so I don't. I don't
[9:29] Speaker 2: discount I've never seen portals inter dimensional, but I'm not
[9:35] Speaker 2: going to discount them because I haven't seen him. I
[9:38] Speaker 2: can't say that guy hasn't experienced it. And my members
[9:44] Speaker 2: are the same way. It's an open you keep an
[9:47] Speaker 2: open mind, being respectful to who you're talking to. Yes,
[9:51] Speaker 2: I have done a lot of podcasts. I enjoy doing podcasts,
[9:56] Speaker 2: and we end up like with Nick Harrius, where you're
[10:01] Speaker 2: talking about put what I've experienced. And there was an incident.
[10:08] Speaker 2: I was coming out, had been hunting. I rarely get
[10:11] Speaker 2: turned around in the woods. This time I did. I
[10:14] Speaker 2: don't panic. I sat down and I pulled out a
[10:16] Speaker 2: little packet of raisins and some jerkin, chewing on it
[10:20] Speaker 2: to get my orientation. I get up to start a
[10:24] Speaker 2: walking alsen. I had a feeling a certain I need
[10:26] Speaker 2: to go a certain way. There were arrows on the ground.
[10:32] Speaker 2: I called them right to my truck. I went back
[10:36] Speaker 2: the next day there were snow arrows anymore? What put
[10:38] Speaker 2: them there? What took them? These are the unexplained things.
[10:44] Speaker 2: You can't they happen, but it's hard to believe what
[10:51] Speaker 2: you're seeing. What puts an extra bundle of dry wood
[10:56] Speaker 2: by your fire when you're about out, You don't hear anything,
[11:02] Speaker 2: but yet it happens. It's happened to me a couple
[11:07] Speaker 2: of times in the high upline country gather. Would you
[11:12] Speaker 2: have about three o'clock stoked the fire, realize you maybe
[11:16] Speaker 2: have one more udden up wood for one more fire
[11:20] Speaker 2: to stoke it? And then you wake up and there's
[11:24] Speaker 2: another pile of wood there? What put that wood there?
[11:26] Speaker 2: There's no humans there, primitive fish traps. These all areas
[11:34] Speaker 2: nobody goes into. What's building them. This is what your
[11:43] Speaker 2: awareness of something real special out there, and that it's
[11:52] Speaker 2: just it's hard to really explain when you've been through
[11:56] Speaker 2: a lot in your life, especially with the white Field creature,
[12:01] Speaker 2: but you know it's always been around. I still can't
[12:07] Speaker 2: explain what took that body, that coyote on my coyote
[12:11] Speaker 2: line in the wintertime there. I never thought about brushing
[12:16] Speaker 2: this fresh snow out of those tracks that were large.
[12:20] Speaker 2: You're talking eighteen nineteen inch tracks. I always what took it?
[12:26] Speaker 2: What destroyed the beaver traps? I took the beaver. There's
[12:34] Speaker 2: not time of year. The bears are hibernating one thing
[12:38] Speaker 2: capable of destroying connobers, and that is something of extreme strength.
[12:43] Speaker 2: I can't do it. Logs that it looks impossible, or throwing.
[12:54] Speaker 2: You try to pick that log up, you can't pick
[12:56] Speaker 2: it up. If you can out nature and man made,
[13:01] Speaker 2: what's doing it? And like structures, you're going to see
[13:08] Speaker 2: things out there, But you have to understand. You've got
[13:11] Speaker 2: to be able to distinguish between natural, man made and
[13:15] Speaker 2: possibly big foot. Heavy rain and wind will top the trees,
[13:21] Speaker 2: You'll have excess heavy snow will make bows, and you
[13:30] Speaker 2: have to know. You have to understand what you're looking at.
[13:34] Speaker 2: And no one rule is understand what you're doing in
[13:36] Speaker 2: the woods. The mountains are unforgiving. They will hurt yours
[13:40] Speaker 2: you not careful, and if you get hurt back there,
[13:44] Speaker 2: you're alone. You can pretty much seal your fate. But
[13:49] Speaker 2: still we do it. We still go out there traps
[13:51] Speaker 2: in the woods and do our research. I'm looking so
[13:55] Speaker 2: forward to the one in June that's coming up, and
[13:58] Speaker 2: we do welcome others to join us, come learn, come
[14:04] Speaker 2: out with us to see how we set up trail camps.
[14:07] Speaker 2: What we're looking for, what kind of structures, maybe a
[14:10] Speaker 2: nesting site, kinds of food they eat, and we'll get
[14:15] Speaker 2: into the one they can. They talked about, Oh what
[14:21] Speaker 2: time things happen. It's fascinating, but you have to understand
[14:30] Speaker 2: you're dealing with something that is unknown. I firmly believe
[14:35] Speaker 2: as others the government knows exactly what people is. If
[14:39] Speaker 2: you get too close, they'll shut you down. Yes, you
[14:43] Speaker 2: will get warned. Trusting you will get warned. They don'tant
[14:48] Speaker 2: you talking about it. They don't want you expose in
[14:51] Speaker 2: the truth like the UFOs and all that to They
[14:55] Speaker 2: finally admitia. They finally said, yeah, they're here. Why is
[15:01] Speaker 2: the relationship between big put aliens and that in the
[15:05] Speaker 2: Native American culture? This is something they're not making up.
[15:09] Speaker 2: This is something they're seeing. Why did we have a
[15:14] Speaker 2: cylind care object behind our motor home on the second
[15:18] Speaker 2: year and the swan covering in the air It wasn't there.
[15:27] Speaker 2: That might be poor or afterwards. The fire of light
[15:30] Speaker 2: is actually reflecting off the casing. Yeah, the fire light's
[15:37] Speaker 2: not reflecting off of the motor home or the tents
[15:40] Speaker 2: or anything just that object. But I've come to expect
[15:47] Speaker 2: the unexpected in a given time. I've never had a
[15:51] Speaker 2: big foot being aggressive, except for once when I threw
[15:54] Speaker 2: something at the motorhome. I use a class A mortar
[15:58] Speaker 2: home as my base and I work out a bit.
[16:03] Speaker 2: We do have hathields forty channel CBS that go in
[16:07] Speaker 2: the field. They're all tied into that mortar hold my
[16:09] Speaker 2: jeep so I can monitor what's going on. We do
[16:13] Speaker 2: have two way radios we use. We do use night
[16:17] Speaker 2: vision binoculars. We are also starting to use a high
[16:23] Speaker 2: density motion detected on night lights. They're solar powered. Anybody,
[16:32] Speaker 2: anything that comes in it gets lit up and the
[16:36] Speaker 2: trail cancel catch what's there. We're always trying new things.
[16:42] Speaker 2: That's what's fun about field research is trying new things.
[16:48] Speaker 2: I don't feel they put it's afraid of trail cameras.
[16:51] Speaker 2: They're much, very much aware of one. Yes, so are
[16:54] Speaker 2: the deer, the elk, the moose. I've gotten video moose, deer, elk.
[17:02] Speaker 2: I've got one of the cow grove in the trail camera.
[17:05] Speaker 2: I've got wolves. Took three years. I've finally got a bird.
[17:10] Speaker 2: I have yet to get a bear and two two
[17:16] Speaker 2: years three years ago, when I went up with my
[17:18] Speaker 2: youngest daughter, I got a photo of hear of me
[17:22] Speaker 2: walking away from the trail camp. Then there's nothing at
[17:25] Speaker 2: the end of the field and the trees standing. A male,
[17:29] Speaker 2: it looks like a male. They put in a juvenile,
[17:32] Speaker 2: possibly a fet man. And all these are taken during
[17:38] Speaker 2: the day. The shoulder and the finger is from Saint Mary's, Idaho,
[17:44] Speaker 2: my son's property. He was taken during the day. I
[17:49] Speaker 2: think they are very nocturnal. Once a full moon they'll
[17:52] Speaker 2: move more night under full moon, so do the deer
[17:55] Speaker 2: and elk, But once the darken the moves. They're moving
[17:59] Speaker 2: during the day. Well, this group, my group, we are
[18:08] Speaker 2: dedicated defining the truth. Where we want to talk to people.
[18:14] Speaker 2: We want to tell people what we've learned. I can
[18:19] Speaker 2: sit in a bar and somebody'll ask me. I'll be
[18:22] Speaker 2: there for two three hours talking to a group of
[18:24] Speaker 2: people about bigot. I don't go in planning to, but
[18:29] Speaker 2: it just ends up that way. And that's what it's
[18:36] Speaker 2: all about. Is learning is learning. I'm a firm believer
[18:40] Speaker 2: that Bigfoot is an evolving primate just like humans. And
[18:47] Speaker 2: that's going to be controversial over with creationists and that
[18:49] Speaker 2: that we didn't evolve for make what was Lucy? For
[18:55] Speaker 2: us to survive. For Lucy to survive, you have to
[18:58] Speaker 2: have a breeding population, so there had to be more
[19:01] Speaker 2: than Lucy. The dragon man in China is similar to
[19:06] Speaker 2: Lucy and around the time same time, in the time
[19:09] Speaker 2: frame history, there's been skulls uncarvered in Malaysia that not
[19:18] Speaker 2: quite as old as Lucy. But getting back there, where
[19:23] Speaker 2: did humans come from? If you stay away from the
[19:27] Speaker 2: creationist stuff, we evolved from something. We have a good history.
[19:34] Speaker 2: If you look at the records of human development, then
[19:39] Speaker 2: look at the primate development. There's no change in primate
[19:43] Speaker 2: development humans. There's changes different speed types of humans for
[19:49] Speaker 2: a short period in time. This is what research is
[19:53] Speaker 2: all about and what I find so fascinating. One question
[20:00] Speaker 2: it is, is bigfoot as of Gigantopithecus. I'm not saying
[20:06] Speaker 2: it's not. It could be. Gigantopithecus is based on mores
[20:13] Speaker 2: than a few poss opponents. The size of it. You
[20:18] Speaker 2: have a better chance of finding a cave bear, primitive
[20:21] Speaker 2: cave bear in a cave somewhere than finding a complete
[20:24] Speaker 2: gigantic or skeleton. I get hit. Why don't we find
[20:32] Speaker 2: any dead ones? How can you've been in the woods
[20:35] Speaker 2: and find dead deer, dead bear? You don't. Nature takes
[20:40] Speaker 2: care of it own of its own A body the
[20:45] Speaker 2: case really fast. If you want to roadkill, watch how
[20:49] Speaker 2: fast that body disappears from scavenging a dec composition. Like
[20:55] Speaker 2: I said, it's something I'm still learning. But the more
[21:01] Speaker 2: I do this research, the more intriguing I'm getting about
[21:06] Speaker 2: where did Bigfoot actually really come from? And did it
[21:13] Speaker 2: come across the land ridge? One of the first languages
[21:15] Speaker 2: they know, the land ridge whig in Asia and Alaska
[21:21] Speaker 2: had occurred several times. Did it come in one of those?
[21:28] Speaker 2: Did it move the other way? Instead of going easy
[21:34] Speaker 2: they went west in Asia and that part of the world.
[21:40] Speaker 2: These are all unanswered questions. Maybe I'll never be able
[21:45] Speaker 2: to answer them, and that's what makes it so intriguing.
[21:50] Speaker 2: The best challenge is an unanswered question, because you're going
[21:54] Speaker 2: to try to answer that question. And that's what I do.
[21:59] Speaker 2: I'll spend hours on the computer doing research. I spend
[22:02] Speaker 2: when I can as much time as I can. Now
[22:06] Speaker 2: in the mountains wintertime, I don't Montana winters can be brutal,
[22:12] Speaker 2: they can be cold. We get real hot summers here,
[22:17] Speaker 2: so I feel they do move. They move in areas
[22:21] Speaker 2: that are cooler in the summertime. There are areas that
[22:24] Speaker 2: are warmer in the wintertime that they move to. They
[22:28] Speaker 2: may hibernate somewhat. And I'll explain that in a little while.
[22:35] Speaker 2: Why I said that bears are known to get up
[22:39] Speaker 2: from hibernation and wander around. Think about the animals that hibernate.
[22:45] Speaker 2: They do move around eventually in the wintertime. Humans we
[22:50] Speaker 2: do not hibernate. We're out there in the winter writing snowmobiles,
[22:55] Speaker 2: ski and snowshoes and fishing to survive the cold weather.
[23:03] Speaker 2: But we're addressed accordingly. But the main thing what people
[23:08] Speaker 2: do understand is this is to me, it's not a game.
[23:15] Speaker 2: I'm I want to know exactly what bigfoot is. Yes,
[23:20] Speaker 2: I've had DNA done on a scat. It's come back
[23:23] Speaker 2: to an unknown trymate, and we keep trying to verify that.
[23:28] Speaker 2: Every time we go in the field. We're looking for hair,
[23:31] Speaker 2: we're looking for scat, oh things like that, and it's
[23:37] Speaker 2: hard to find. It's really hard to find. I have
[23:41] Speaker 2: a microscope. I took time. I've got sixteen samples of
[23:48] Speaker 2: hair of known species. I can look under a microscope
[23:53] Speaker 2: with them and compare them to the hair samples we find.
[23:56] Speaker 2: If it doesn't match one of those, what is it?
[23:59] Speaker 2: We get the particle. We have DNA. So I do
[24:03] Speaker 2: go well prepared I go in the field.
[24:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you go very well prepared when
[24:09] Speaker 1: you head into the field.
[24:11] Speaker 2: Yep, everything I have. I do have video cameras. We
[24:16] Speaker 2: can video. I have a thirty five millimeter with a
[24:20] Speaker 2: total plants. That lens can take a clear photograph of
[24:24] Speaker 2: five miles Wow, long way off. Yes, yes it is,
[24:31] Speaker 2: and it's all set up. It's all set up there.
[24:35] Speaker 2: We have people stop by the camp and sit down
[24:37] Speaker 2: by the fire. We offer coffee and when they start talking,
[24:43] Speaker 2: we listen. When they've done, I asked questions. I go
[24:50] Speaker 2: to the store up there. We don't get out of
[24:52] Speaker 2: that store without somebody bother stopping to talk to me,
[24:55] Speaker 2: even terists. We do have two T shirts. This is
[24:59] Speaker 2: big researcher on it. We are people waiting to talk
[25:05] Speaker 2: to us. When I was on the reservation, in the
[25:11] Speaker 2: Blackfeet Reservation, I'd come out at the store and people
[25:16] Speaker 2: want to talk. People would flag me over to their
[25:20] Speaker 2: car to talk about what they've seen. When I left Browning,
[25:30] Speaker 2: they gave me the name that they put man, which
[25:35] Speaker 2: I honored that actually gave me a name. So it's
[25:41] Speaker 2: like I said, it's just if you find something that
[25:45] Speaker 2: intrigues you to the point it doesn't become an obsession,
[25:50] Speaker 2: but comes a point of learning. There's a lot of
[25:54] Speaker 2: information out there. It's just taking the time to do
[25:59] Speaker 2: their research. If you love being in the mountains, go
[26:02] Speaker 2: out and spend the time, but go prepared. Don't go
[26:06] Speaker 2: out there half way. You have to prepare for adverse weather.
[26:13] Speaker 2: We went up and all they did was rain for
[26:15] Speaker 2: eleven days. It makes it hard to want to go
[26:18] Speaker 2: out there swashing through wet brochures and stuff. I won't
[26:22] Speaker 2: do it. I don't expect my people to do it,
[26:25] Speaker 2: but I've got those that will do it. Your equipment,
[26:31] Speaker 2: don't go out there. Spend a lot of money. Make
[26:34] Speaker 2: yourself a budget, buy the cheaper trail cams, learn how
[26:37] Speaker 2: to operate them. If you're into drones with the cameras,
[26:42] Speaker 2: don't go out there spend thousand dollars for a drone,
[26:45] Speaker 2: buy a cheap one and learn how to fly it.
[26:50] Speaker 2: To do a drone, you have to get certified, which
[26:54] Speaker 2: I am certified to fly drone. And we do use drones.
[26:59] Speaker 2: We use big ones and little ones, and everything's a
[27:05] Speaker 2: learning process. So when you first start, take it baby steps,
[27:10] Speaker 2: one step at a time. Every time you go out,
[27:12] Speaker 2: you're going to learn what you're going to need. Don't
[27:15] Speaker 2: go overboard. It's taking me four years to get all
[27:19] Speaker 2: the stuff we have. We have over about thirty trail cancer.
[27:23] Speaker 2: We point out to high end night vision binoculars that
[27:30] Speaker 2: does record both video and photo, and it's just you
[27:38] Speaker 2: just take your time and do it right. Safety is
[27:42] Speaker 2: number one. They say never go in the woods alone,
[27:46] Speaker 2: and were firm believable of that. Yes, well, we're in
[27:49] Speaker 2: basecams from that. We have weapons. Montana has two species
[27:55] Speaker 2: of bear, the black bear and the grizzly. Grizzlies are aggressive.
[28:00] Speaker 2: The weapons can camp for to protect those that are there.
[28:04] Speaker 2: I don't like the people to wear weapons into the
[28:06] Speaker 2: field because I think pig putting sense them, but I'm
[28:09] Speaker 2: going to tell them not to do it. I'm not
[28:11] Speaker 2: going to tell them that that's their choice when they're
[28:15] Speaker 2: at camp. I want them put away because the one
[28:20] Speaker 2: primary weapon shoots a four hundred and thirty grain gas
[28:24] Speaker 2: check bear load. It's the one chuck bullet, so forty
[28:28] Speaker 2: five seventy and it will drop a bear Well. We
[28:35] Speaker 2: have yet to use one. I have to use it,
[28:37] Speaker 2: but it's always there in case we need it. Safeties
[28:42] Speaker 2: are prior to you. If I don't know you, well,
[28:47] Speaker 2: if you get stupid, you will be told to leave
[28:49] Speaker 2: the camp. When you come with this, you do sign
[28:53] Speaker 2: a non disclosure agreement. You also sign they have to
[28:58] Speaker 2: sign a release of liability. I had an attorney draw
[29:03] Speaker 2: all this up, and anybody joined us has to sign
[29:06] Speaker 2: it because if you get hurt out there, I don't
[29:10] Speaker 2: want you suing me for you being stupid, and people
[29:14] Speaker 2: do get stupid. Trust and I have seen it. But
[29:18] Speaker 2: safety and respect to the number one thing. But you know,
[29:23] Speaker 2: the years have come by, and now that I'm at
[29:27] Speaker 2: a point in my life, I have the time to
[29:31] Speaker 2: really get into this deeper and deeper. Every year I
[29:33] Speaker 2: get into it deeper and deeper. And like I said,
[29:36] Speaker 2: I do other podcasts. I think I've done seven already,
[29:44] Speaker 2: one with Vick Audio one. Then I've also been featured
[29:47] Speaker 2: on a radio station here in Missoula. I didn't know it.
[29:53] Speaker 2: Ray Harwood wrote part of it chapter about the Native
[29:59] Speaker 2: Americans and Montana in the Bigfoot. He actually wrote about
[30:03] Speaker 2: me and my group in his book, which I feel honored.
[30:10] Speaker 2: There some good books out there, But when we look
[30:13] Speaker 2: at other groups that are out there, a lot of
[30:17] Speaker 2: their programs are scripted to what they can say, and
[30:21] Speaker 2: that because at the time allowance, they want to drag
[30:27] Speaker 2: these programs out. We've been going to the same area
[30:32] Speaker 2: for four years and we're still finding stuff. A lot
[30:38] Speaker 2: of it I cannot disclose. I've been advised not to disclose,
[30:43] Speaker 2: which is fine. For the stuff I disclose. What I
[30:47] Speaker 2: talk about is it's safe to talk about. And like
[30:54] Speaker 2: I said, it's something that I'm very passionate about. Let's
[30:58] Speaker 2: say that I've had a good life. I've been all
[31:03] Speaker 2: over the world, but my home's Montana. I will die
[31:08] Speaker 2: here in Montana. But with the group, I've got good members.
[31:14] Speaker 2: They do a lot of them do come to these
[31:16] Speaker 2: research the field research trips and we have fun. We
[31:23] Speaker 2: do send up party at night. We do use a
[31:27] Speaker 2: high density flashlight, but we also use high density black
[31:34] Speaker 2: light flashlights the black light flashlight, you don't get an
[31:39] Speaker 2: eye shine. You will with the regular flashlight. These you don't.
[31:45] Speaker 2: I've tested mon, deer, elk and all that you have
[31:48] Speaker 2: no eye shine at all. With the other ones, you
[31:53] Speaker 2: will have eye shine. Eye shine is the number one
[31:56] Speaker 2: tell tale about animal out there. They're watching you. You
[32:02] Speaker 2: cannot become invisible to Bigfoot. He knows you're there. He
[32:07] Speaker 2: can be invisible to you. They're very hard to find,
[32:09] Speaker 2: very hard to see. But yet the family is they
[32:14] Speaker 2: make themselves knowing if they want you to see them,
[32:16] Speaker 2: they'll show themselves to you. And I'm not talking about
[32:19] Speaker 2: the guys driving down the highway and bigfoots walks out
[32:25] Speaker 2: across the road in front of them, or they see
[32:28] Speaker 2: him along the road picking a fresh road killed and
[32:31] Speaker 2: carrying it off as it does happen. This is the
[32:36] Speaker 2: ones that will stand there. They may stand there for hours,
[32:38] Speaker 2: watching you, observing you. You know the Native Americans saying,
[32:45] Speaker 2: is bigfoots a guardian of the mountains. It speaks for
[32:48] Speaker 2: those that can't. Yes, they can be aggressive, and we
[32:53] Speaker 2: are aware of that. We never know, just like a bear,
[32:56] Speaker 2: you never know if it's going to be aggressive or not.
[33:00] Speaker 2: All part of being out there, but be respectful.
[33:04] Speaker 1: When you have one clear sighting of a sasquatch can
[33:07] Speaker 1: that can cause an individual to struggle to find normalcy
[33:09] Speaker 1: in their life. Considering how many experiences you've had, though,
[33:13] Speaker 1: do you struggle to find normalcy in your life.
[33:17] Speaker 2: And certain aspects? Yeah, well I get hurt. I have
[33:22] Speaker 2: an analytical mind. So when I have like a full
[33:27] Speaker 2: body sighting or I see it on video or something
[33:29] Speaker 2: a real what we get it's like, I'm still scratching
[33:34] Speaker 2: my head. Does it change your perspective? Yes, it does,
[33:41] Speaker 2: because you're looking at something that shouldn't be there, that
[33:45] Speaker 2: one that when I come out of that lake, it
[33:50] Speaker 2: just happened to have it stop and look at you.
[33:56] Speaker 2: Your heart kind of race, You kind of get scared.
[33:59] Speaker 2: You know what's going to do. You can't outrun it,
[34:06] Speaker 2: and it may through it. It gives you a better
[34:09] Speaker 2: understanding of how closed mind humans can be. They'll do
[34:15] Speaker 2: it and all that can't happen. That can't be. But
[34:19] Speaker 2: yet the evidence says opposite that it's there. You know,
[34:23] Speaker 2: for years they said there were no primate fossils in
[34:26] Speaker 2: North America. Explain the small primate fossils found in Canada,
[34:31] Speaker 2: Northern Canada, and then again in a basein in Wyoming.
[34:36] Speaker 2: They're primate fossils. They may have come out of South America,
[34:45] Speaker 2: may have moved, you know, to me everything. I'll talk
[34:53] Speaker 2: to the girls and I want every to think about this.
[34:57] Speaker 2: One thousand, twenty six, twenty twenty six, that's a thousand years.
[35:07] Speaker 2: What has humans done in that thousand years? We've walked
[35:12] Speaker 2: on the moon, we have cell phones. If people don't realize,
[35:21] Speaker 2: if you set dates like that, you look at a
[35:25] Speaker 2: thousand years and that's what our country is, two hundred
[35:30] Speaker 2: and fiftieth anniversary, something like that. We've only been around.
[35:38] Speaker 2: This country's on even been around a drop in the
[35:41] Speaker 2: bucket according to time, How has a planet evolved in
[35:47] Speaker 2: that thousand years? How many volcanoes? How many times do
[35:52] Speaker 2: the yellow Stone cold air erupt? Krakatoa blue Mount, Vesuvius Blue,
[36:00] Speaker 2: There's other called errors that have erupted in that thousand years. Cynomies.
[36:05] Speaker 2: We have no idea the size earthquakes. I think of
[36:15] Speaker 2: things like that. Just now we have a species bipedle
[36:18] Speaker 2: species that is unknown. Maybe in time we'll finally get
[36:24] Speaker 2: the answers from the government or find that defind to prove.
[36:30] Speaker 2: If you claim you have a body, I guarantee they'll
[36:32] Speaker 2: come confiscated. Every big Foot that's been hit by a
[36:36] Speaker 2: vehicle and killed, the body disappears. They come in and
[36:40] Speaker 2: they have a special chemical. They worked the highway down
[36:43] Speaker 2: so there's no trace as a DNA. What happened to
[36:47] Speaker 2: the dead? Uh bigfoot? After they found after the Mount
[36:52] Speaker 2: Hell's eruption, it's documented in the newspapers that them sling
[37:00] Speaker 2: loading dead. But bigot, where do they go? Where do
[37:02] Speaker 2: they take them? It was just but we keep doing
[37:06] Speaker 2: what we do and what we enjoy doing. And that's
[37:08] Speaker 2: that's the main thing. You got to enjoy doing it.
[37:12] Speaker 2: Don't go crazy about it, but just press the beer
[37:17] Speaker 2: and you'll learn. You'll learn.
[37:21] Speaker 1: I'm glad you found something you're so passionate about. That's
[37:24] Speaker 1: what life's all about.
[37:26] Speaker 2: It is.
[37:26] Speaker 1: It is a bit ago you stayed that you think
[37:30] Speaker 1: sasquatch hybrid needs. Please go into more detail explaining your
[37:33] Speaker 1: theories on why they do that and how they do that.
[37:38] Speaker 2: It's like any mammals in the and I don't believe
[37:42] Speaker 2: they do it down south in the warmer, like Arizona
[37:45] Speaker 2: and all that. This more related up to the North
[37:48] Speaker 2: country of heavy snow ice winners. If you look squirrels, mice,
[37:58] Speaker 2: a lot of animals will go in to a hibernating
[38:01] Speaker 2: species that all sleep. The bears do, but I think
[38:06] Speaker 2: Bigfoot will go into a semi hibernating state that during
[38:13] Speaker 2: the extreme colds. When they do that, their heart rate
[38:17] Speaker 2: slows down. They may wake up daring it bears annoying
[38:24] Speaker 2: to and wander around and return the way they've been hibernating.
[38:30] Speaker 2: If you look at birth and everything, when does everything
[38:32] Speaker 2: take place in the spring? Deer, elk, moose, the horses, cows, sheep,
[38:46] Speaker 2: and I also believe they do do it somewhat hibernate
[38:51] Speaker 2: during the coldals part of the year. They may not
[38:54] Speaker 2: go into a whole hibernation, but the areas they've built
[38:58] Speaker 2: their nests, maybe in old mining mine tunnels, abandoned buildings,
[39:06] Speaker 2: anything to cut that wind. If you've ever been in
[39:10] Speaker 2: a cave or an old mine during the summer, it's cool,
[39:14] Speaker 2: going there in the wintertime it's warm. There are natural
[39:20] Speaker 2: thermal spots in the mountains, and I'm sure Bigfoot's fully
[39:25] Speaker 2: aware of those. It can be ten twenty zero and
[39:31] Speaker 2: you're in an area that might be thirty five degrees warm,
[39:36] Speaker 2: though you can take your jacket up and sit on
[39:38] Speaker 2: the ground. I know bigfoots aware of all those areas.
[39:44] Speaker 2: He has a better understand those mountains than you do.
[39:47] Speaker 2: Like I said, I spend a lifetime in these mountains
[39:50] Speaker 2: and I still learn every time I go out. Hibernation, bear, squirrels,
[39:57] Speaker 2: a lot of animals do hibernate. And I'm not talking
[40:04] Speaker 2: down south where it's warm year around, and that I'm
[40:06] Speaker 2: talking or it gets real cold. Yeah, we may have
[40:12] Speaker 2: a male bigfoot move around, except bears will to get
[40:17] Speaker 2: up and move around, especially the Christlies. This year here
[40:22] Speaker 2: in western Montana, we haven't had a winter. The average
[40:27] Speaker 2: temperature this year than forty five in the wintertime, no
[40:32] Speaker 2: snow except each of the Divide and everywhere else they're
[40:35] Speaker 2: getting hammering with snow. This is the warmest winner on record.
[40:41] Speaker 2: So naturally the bears, they've already had bear sightings early.
[40:46] Speaker 2: I think one of the first bear sightings was in March,
[40:50] Speaker 2: which is early.
[40:52] Speaker 1: If they do go into a form of hibernation, do
[40:54] Speaker 1: you think it's a shallow one like bears, do you
[40:57] Speaker 1: where they can wake up quickly? If they're disturbed or
[41:00] Speaker 1: think it's too deep for that.
[41:02] Speaker 2: I think it's cattleman. They come up instantaneous as they
[41:09] Speaker 2: get disturbed, even if flick at the squirrels. They hibernate,
[41:15] Speaker 2: but in the middle of winter you'll see him running around.
[41:19] Speaker 2: There are true ams of hibernate. They're toads that go
[41:24] Speaker 2: into kind of I can't remember the name of, similar
[41:28] Speaker 2: to hibernation. They can be in that stage for ten years.
[41:32] Speaker 2: They only appear when it rains.
[41:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one heck of an adaptation.
[41:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, seeds that have been frozen in from afrost. No
[41:45] Speaker 2: rejuvenate was that they're planted. They found seeds in the
[41:50] Speaker 2: mammoth that they planted. It grew. Why is prehistoric trees
[41:56] Speaker 2: starting to appear around the world growing around the world.
[41:59] Speaker 2: Plants you know that were extinct. You look at the
[42:03] Speaker 2: fish fossil. Oh, it was finally caught off the coast
[42:08] Speaker 2: of Africa. This is a fish. It was supposed to
[42:12] Speaker 2: be extinct. You know, everything in life. If you fought
[42:16] Speaker 2: track of all evolutionary time, which I really been studying.
[42:23] Speaker 2: At one time, everything was large. Mammals are extremely large,
[42:27] Speaker 2: Plants were large. But as the climate change they all
[42:31] Speaker 2: started downsizing to what we have today. You had the
[42:36] Speaker 2: giant sloth, you had the giant cave bear, giant beavers.
[42:43] Speaker 2: The true prehistoric animals that are still alive are your
[42:49] Speaker 2: alligators and crocodiles. A lot of lizards we have are
[42:56] Speaker 2: similar to what's back in for esoteric time. You got
[42:59] Speaker 2: the dragon lizard that can. It flares out and it
[43:04] Speaker 2: runs on water. It's adapted species adapt to the environment.
[43:12] Speaker 2: Humans have a hard time doing that. We have to
[43:16] Speaker 2: have our shelters. We cannot survive a hard winter without shelter,
[43:23] Speaker 2: proper clothing.
[43:25] Speaker 1: Speaking of winter, do you think sasquatch cash food for
[43:28] Speaker 1: the winter or do you think they're one hundred percent
[43:30] Speaker 1: hand to.
[43:31] Speaker 2: Mouth if possible. I've never crossed come across anything indicating
[43:39] Speaker 2: they do. I'm not saying they don't. You get more
[43:44] Speaker 2: activity on the highways in the wintertime because of the
[43:47] Speaker 2: road skill of bigfoot being seen. I know guys have
[43:52] Speaker 2: gone hunting in that late hunts and that in the
[43:54] Speaker 2: snow drops. Some they go out to get friends and
[43:58] Speaker 2: they come back and it's gone. It's not drug, it's
[44:01] Speaker 2: been carried away. Any animal that would die in the
[44:06] Speaker 2: wintertime vicer's going to take a feed on it. They
[44:10] Speaker 2: are meat eaters, so partial hibernation, Yeah, very strongly, I
[44:17] Speaker 2: believe they do. Through the worst of the weather. When
[44:22] Speaker 2: you're dealing with something that's so unknown, everything becomes a
[44:28] Speaker 2: theory and every going to have their own theory about
[44:32] Speaker 2: Bigfoot and what it does. And like I tell people,
[44:36] Speaker 2: what I talk about is based on my own personal
[44:38] Speaker 2: theories that I've developed through years of research af through observation. Now,
[44:49] Speaker 2: when I first started running a trap line, I learned
[44:52] Speaker 2: through observation of the animals I'm going to trap. I
[44:57] Speaker 2: learned how to do it properly, how to skin and
[44:59] Speaker 2: all that which meat like the beaver. Beaver's actually and
[45:05] Speaker 2: teat so it's muskrat. But I do it from like
[45:10] Speaker 2: I said, I do for me believe Bigfoot dusk go
[45:12] Speaker 2: into a semi hibernating state, especially the female.
[45:17] Speaker 1: Speaking of the females, You've got an interesting theory regarding
[45:20] Speaker 1: what happens with Sasquatch mothers from conception to birth. Please
[45:25] Speaker 1: expand on that for us.
[45:27] Speaker 2: Okay, I got to thinking about that. Nobody's ever talking
[45:30] Speaker 2: about when Bigfoot conceives Nobody's able to deserve it, so
[45:37] Speaker 2: I took a large larger primeates guerrilla, orangutan, chimpanze, and human.
[45:44] Speaker 2: The term of birth is anywhere from eight and a
[45:46] Speaker 2: half months to nine months, humans being the longest. Most
[45:50] Speaker 2: averages eight and a half months or to add those
[45:53] Speaker 2: all together and divide by four. If Bigfoot is a primate,
[45:59] Speaker 2: it puts it in eight and a half months, which
[46:02] Speaker 2: means it's conceived in the fall and birth in the spring.
[46:06] Speaker 2: Time of plenty, you have baby birds, you have eggs,
[46:11] Speaker 2: you have fish running, you have fonds calves. Everything's a
[46:17] Speaker 2: new birth if you look at bears, any animal out
[46:22] Speaker 2: there that gives birth is in the spring. And I
[46:27] Speaker 2: think I'm not going to say I bet donus to
[46:32] Speaker 2: dollars on it, but I'm looking at eight and a
[46:35] Speaker 2: half months from conception to birth. That put it around
[46:40] Speaker 2: September that they conceive and early April May that they
[46:46] Speaker 2: give birth. Once it's warmer. The female, I feel those
[46:50] Speaker 2: does go into a hibernating state. The male may bring
[46:54] Speaker 2: her food when she's awake. The mortality of baby big
[46:59] Speaker 2: but it's going to be high, so they're very protected.
[47:04] Speaker 2: Those that are born, they can be very aggressive, as
[47:09] Speaker 2: many animals are around all they're babies. A cow moose
[47:15] Speaker 2: will kill you if you get teene and his baby.
[47:18] Speaker 2: A bar will kill you because and the scumbs they
[47:22] Speaker 2: put no different. But i'm i'm. My theory is you're
[47:27] Speaker 2: looking at us from conception to birth of eight and
[47:29] Speaker 2: half months.
[47:31] Speaker 1: That's an interesting theory.
[47:33] Speaker 2: Nobody's ever talked about it.
[47:36] Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, this is the first time I've heard
[47:38] Speaker 1: it mentioned. It seems like they have everything about their
[47:41] Speaker 1: lives figured out. If that's the case, I'm sure there
[47:44] Speaker 1: is definitely a reason for when they choose to time
[47:47] Speaker 1: the conception.
[47:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, there's mate in the fall, you get birth in
[47:53] Speaker 2: the spring. Deer elk and all that they mate in
[47:58] Speaker 2: the fall, they get birth in the spring. Everything is
[48:02] Speaker 2: based on the spring. Humans are the only one that
[48:04] Speaker 2: can have babies anytime in the year, but all species
[48:10] Speaker 2: our birth are. What I see is deer, elk, moose bears.
[48:16] Speaker 2: A lot of animals will because it can see in
[48:24] Speaker 2: the fall, and they give birth in the spring. It's
[48:28] Speaker 2: just not like fish and stuff. There's also new plants, watercrest, scumk, cabbage,
[48:34] Speaker 2: all this other greens out there too that are fresh growth,
[48:38] Speaker 2: baby cattail, rists are dynamite eat higbeaten big nose? Are
[48:44] Speaker 2: good Americans eat them? Like I said, it's only a
[48:48] Speaker 2: theory about birth of big put. But to me, I
[48:57] Speaker 2: use the best approach I could to make that determination.
[49:02] Speaker 2: I said, humans carry the longest berth. Yeah, we have
[49:05] Speaker 2: premature verse. Yes, but the average birthtime is nine months
[49:11] Speaker 2: and the other one is of Beteam eight eight and
[49:13] Speaker 2: a half months. So I'm basing it off the DNA
[49:17] Speaker 2: of an unknown primate. I'm looking at eight in a
[49:19] Speaker 2: half months from conception to bursting.
[49:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, it just might be right about that. You describe
[49:27] Speaker 1: Sasquatch as being evolving by pudal primates. Does that mean
[49:31] Speaker 1: that you're vehemently opposed to the idea that it just
[49:34] Speaker 1: might be spiritual beings.
[49:37] Speaker 2: Well, I always approach it like this, Victor. I've never
[49:42] Speaker 2: seen portals, I've never seen interdimensional and I'd say it
[49:48] Speaker 2: doesn't happen. I'm not saying their descendants of able and
[49:55] Speaker 2: them or any of that. I based everything on my
[49:59] Speaker 2: own first and experiences. Is it possible, Yes, I'm not
[50:06] Speaker 2: going to say it's not. I don't have a right
[50:09] Speaker 2: to sell something. Oh that's not true. That can't happen
[50:13] Speaker 2: because the way they look at the research is going
[50:17] Speaker 2: to be different than what I see. If they said,
[50:19] Speaker 2: oh I saw this thing come out of a portal,
[50:23] Speaker 2: it seemed to be interdimensional, I'm not going to disclaim
[50:26] Speaker 2: it and put them down. If it's the other way,
[50:29] Speaker 2: like what you were talking about, I can't say no
[50:32] Speaker 2: to that. I have to respect everybody's own opinion or
[50:37] Speaker 2: how they're viewing something, because we're all different. We're all different. No.
[50:44] Speaker 2: I was raised very religious. Vietnam took care of that.
[50:49] Speaker 2: But that's okay. Now. I hear it all the time,
[50:52] Speaker 2: Like dog man, I'm not going to say it doesn't exist.
[50:56] Speaker 2: I've never encountered one. There are a few here in Montana.
[51:01] Speaker 2: They've been reported one ere it's north of US. I
[51:05] Speaker 2: have yet to get to that area. I've been so
[51:08] Speaker 2: concentrated on bigfoot sasquatch that it's an area I may
[51:13] Speaker 2: look into something else that might get interested in. And
[51:18] Speaker 2: I know they're very aggressive, but being a spiritual aspect,
[51:24] Speaker 2: it's possible. It's possible, and we all I think it's
[51:31] Speaker 2: individuals perception of something unknown that matters, like why does it?
[51:39] Speaker 2: Like when I work security in Kawai the grade school
[51:43] Speaker 2: high school. That night, I'm walking checking doors down a
[51:46] Speaker 2: wooden walkway. What grabbed my shoulder and jerk me back?
[51:51] Speaker 2: There's nobody there? What causes steel light falls to start
[51:58] Speaker 2: swaying when there's no wind? What turns on lights and
[52:02] Speaker 2: water in an empty cabana when there's nobody in there.
[52:09] Speaker 2: It's the unexplained stuff that's you know, are you afraid? Possibly?
[52:15] Speaker 2: Most of my jobs I work graveyard shifts. I loved
[52:19] Speaker 2: working graveyard shifts, and we had one there on Kawhi
[52:29] Speaker 2: when I first started working, Scared of the hotel scurty graveyard,
[52:33] Speaker 2: there was a hayo by the park Livegate Park. I
[52:36] Speaker 2: sit by Zakouzie and you could see right through to
[52:39] Speaker 2: the ocean. There was a young girl who would sing
[52:42] Speaker 2: there about every other night in Hawaii, but there was
[52:46] Speaker 2: nobody sitting there. Do I discount it? No, I don't
[52:51] Speaker 2: discount it. You know, each of us are going to
[52:56] Speaker 2: form our own theories and that and we have to
[52:59] Speaker 2: respect to each other for those theories.
[53:03] Speaker 1: One of the many reasons why I find you so
[53:05] Speaker 1: impressive there a Ken is the fact they hear you
[53:08] Speaker 1: clearly know so much about these guys, but you're still
[53:11] Speaker 1: open to the fact that there's still a lot that
[53:14] Speaker 1: you don't know about them. A lot of people, once
[53:16] Speaker 1: they get to know a certain amount about a topic,
[53:19] Speaker 1: they just close off their minds and they think they
[53:21] Speaker 1: know pretty much all there is to know about that subject.
[53:24] Speaker 1: But that's not you, And that's really impressive.
[53:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an open mind. I mean I want
[53:31] Speaker 2: to learn.
[53:31] Speaker 1: I want to hear.
[53:32] Speaker 2: If you've got a different view than me, I want
[53:33] Speaker 2: to hear it because we have something in common. We've
[53:39] Speaker 2: witnessed something, even though it'd been different, you still experience
[53:45] Speaker 2: something very unique. You can't close your door mind to that.
[53:53] Speaker 2: Like I was telling that, I don't have much time
[53:55] Speaker 2: lift in my life, and I'm living my life and
[54:00] Speaker 2: I'm enjoying my life what time I got left, And
[54:04] Speaker 2: it's not being sitting on a pot chair feeling sorry
[54:08] Speaker 2: for myself. I've never felt sorry for myself. I don't
[54:11] Speaker 2: know how many times I've been knocked down in light
[54:13] Speaker 2: in the gutter, But you know what, I come out
[54:15] Speaker 2: standing on my own two feet and got better. And
[54:22] Speaker 2: this is these books. It's actually my legacy to my
[54:26] Speaker 2: group and my family.
[54:28] Speaker 1: You can't keep a good man down there's a lot
[54:31] Speaker 1: of truth to that.
[54:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when I was young and dumb, I got
[54:36] Speaker 2: drunk in a bar and me and a friend decided
[54:39] Speaker 2: try to write a buffalo. If you could call that stupid, well.
[54:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, not a good idea, not a good choice. But yeah,
[54:48] Speaker 1: we've all done stupid stuff like that.
[54:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god there was a John Deere tractor there.
[54:52] Speaker 2: You know, when he hit that tractor, almost tipped it over.
[54:56] Speaker 2: But you know, when you're dumb, you don't think about stuff.
[54:59] Speaker 2: We used to ca We have a boy scouts up
[55:01] Speaker 2: Gold Creek, and it's how crazy we were. It would
[55:04] Speaker 2: drift us may. We didn't go winter camping until it
[55:07] Speaker 2: was thirty blow zero thirty forty. We get buck ass
[55:11] Speaker 2: snake and set a log in the middle of the
[55:13] Speaker 2: Goat Creek. We go on the cliffs and we jump
[55:16] Speaker 2: off these cliffs into snow drift. You're talking thirty forty
[55:20] Speaker 2: to fifty feet or higher. Well, yeah, we were nuts.
[55:25] Speaker 1: You were burning at both ends, no doubt about that.
[55:28] Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I said, I've been fortunate. I've got to
[55:31] Speaker 2: travel the world. Yeah, I served in Vietnam, and I'm
[55:34] Speaker 2: proud of my service in Vietnam.
[55:37] Speaker 1: Thank you for your service.
[55:39] Speaker 2: Thank you. And then I ended up in Germany before
[55:41] Speaker 2: I got out of the military, and I got back
[55:44] Speaker 2: in the Army reserves over a bar bed And I'm
[55:51] Speaker 2: the one who will take a challenge head on. If
[55:54] Speaker 2: you've got you're going to challenge, you better have some money,
[55:57] Speaker 2: because I'll do. I'll attempt to challenge.
[56:00] Speaker 1: I'd challenge you to give me one hundred dollars skin.
[56:04] Speaker 2: What's your address?
[56:07] Speaker 1: Uh No, I didn't think that was gonna work, but
[56:09] Speaker 1: I had to try.
[56:10] Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I'll send it to you on my next royalty check.
[56:17] Speaker 1: That sounds like a plan. That sounds good to me.
[56:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. I do get royalty for my first book, So
[56:23] Speaker 2: that makes it nice.
[56:25] Speaker 1: Oh, that's got to make it nice. And speaking of
[56:27] Speaker 1: that book, please take this opportunity to promote your first book,
[56:31] Speaker 1: the new one you're working on in the Montana, Idaho
[56:34] Speaker 1: Bigfoot Research Group.
[56:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. My first is a personal Quest to Understand
[56:40] Speaker 2: Bigfoot and it is available on Amazon and paperback is
[56:47] Speaker 2: nine to ninety nine. Of course hard covers a little
[56:49] Speaker 2: bit more in it. I talk about a lot of
[56:52] Speaker 2: this stuff the group and I have come across and
[56:55] Speaker 2: the time we've been out doing field research. The next
[57:01] Speaker 2: book's actually going to have photographs, photos taken off of
[57:07] Speaker 2: trail cams, the areas, what kind of territory we're actually
[57:14] Speaker 2: doing our research in, so people can understand that the structures.
[57:19] Speaker 2: I'll have a whole chapter on structures alone, drawings of
[57:23] Speaker 2: what I believe are bigfoot drawings already been told that
[57:29] Speaker 2: they will continue the group after I pass away all
[57:33] Speaker 2: my stuff, all my field research equipment goes to the
[57:36] Speaker 2: group to continue continue, all my notes, all my sim
[57:43] Speaker 2: cards and everything on them. But the next book, it,
[57:48] Speaker 2: according to the publisher, will be going international. He's talking
[57:52] Speaker 2: twenty one different languages. So it's the sole process. But
[57:56] Speaker 2: I won't send them any manuscript till I'm done, and
[58:00] Speaker 2: I'm looking probably early winner this coming year, this year
[58:04] Speaker 2: top before I'm ready to send it. But the group
[58:09] Speaker 2: we welcome anybody to join. We are on Facebook. If
[58:13] Speaker 2: you look up mont in Idaho Bidfoot Research Group and
[58:16] Speaker 2: you want to join, make sure you answer the questions.
[58:21] Speaker 2: My admin will deny anybody that doesn't answer the questions,
[58:26] Speaker 2: even if you're in groups. We are in also because
[58:30] Speaker 2: one thing our primary goal is and rule is you
[58:33] Speaker 2: have to be respectful. Because all make comment you should
[58:36] Speaker 2: kicked him out fast. He wasn't even done type and
[58:39] Speaker 2: I said, I know I will not be disrespected, nor
[58:42] Speaker 2: will I have any of my memories and be disrespected
[58:46] Speaker 2: by somebody, because you all have something in common, wanting
[58:51] Speaker 2: to know what Bigfoot is, wanting to learn about it.
[58:55] Speaker 2: But I always appreciate when I talk to Vic. It's
[58:59] Speaker 2: been a couple of years, and I actually brought up
[59:01] Speaker 2: the last audio one I did for you. I keep
[59:06] Speaker 2: all that stuff good man. Yeah, but I know running
[59:13] Speaker 2: out of time, and I want to thank you Vic
[59:16] Speaker 2: for having me on. And I want everybody out there
[59:20] Speaker 2: to be safe, and those of you that are interested
[59:23] Speaker 2: to get into the Bigfoot research, just take it slow,
[59:27] Speaker 2: take it real slow, and you'll learn a lot. And
[59:30] Speaker 2: I'm easy to get a hold of us through Facebook.
[59:34] Speaker 1: And so that everyone listening news, I'm going to put
[59:36] Speaker 1: a link to the Montana, Idaho Bigfoot Research Group Facebook
[59:40] Speaker 1: page and the description for tonight's show. That'll make it
[59:44] Speaker 1: really easy for you to find.
[59:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it, and I appreciate it.
[59:49] Speaker 1: Oh, glad to do it. But having said that, Ken,
[59:52] Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for coming on to share
[59:54] Speaker 1: all those experiences and all this info with us. I
[59:57] Speaker 1: really do appreciate it.
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: I'm glad you had me and I'm glad you're contacted
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: me again. Like I said, it's one subject I'm learning
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: every year. Every day I'm learning more and more and
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: I have more and more happening. So maybe down the
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: road we can do another one.
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: Just let me know. You're a great ambassador for the field.
[1:00:20] Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, it's always great to have you on.
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: So thank you for your time.
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Vick, and for everybody else you all
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: be safe and God bless you.
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: Thanks so much and have a good night.
[1:00:38] Speaker 3: That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: Vic Kendiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: like to be a guest on the show, please go
[1:00:47] Speaker 3: to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
[1:00:51] Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a
[1:00:55] Speaker 3: great night.

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