# I Didn’t Believe in Bigfoot Until One Growled at Me - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 506

An episode of [Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1176349237), 21 Oct 2025, 31 min.

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Thomas Shay is the founder of the Northern Kentucky Bigfoot Research Group. Tom has been investigating the Sasquatch phenomenon since 1987. That’s when he had his first Sasquatch-related experience. You see, in 1987, Tom was heading to see his girlfriend, in Carlton, Kentucky, on US 36, when he had his first sighting. It was 85 degrees out, that day, so Tom was surprised when he saw what he, at first, thought was a man in a fur coat, on the side of the highway. As he got closer, he slowed down to a very slow speed and slowly went past the subject. After creeping by the subject, he felt like he didn’t get a good enough look at it, so he turned his car around, parked it on the side of the road, and got out so he could follow the subject down into a field. Moments later, Tom realized that was a poor decision. From that day on, Tom tried to learn all he could about Sasquatch. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to him share the details of that experience and several others he’s had over the years. If you’ve had a Sasquatch experience in Northern Kentucky that you’d like to report to Tom, please visit the Northern Kentucky Bigfoot Research Facebook Group at… https://www.facebook.com/groups/488381544566776/ If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134 Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening!

## Transcript

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[0:14] Speaker 2: Well, my name is Thomas she I'm the founder of
[0:18] Speaker 2: the Northern Kentucky Big Quick Research Group. Here in Northern Kentucky,
[0:21] Speaker 2: I've been researching since nineteen eighty seven. On my first
[0:25] Speaker 2: experience back in nineteen eighty seven, I had a lot
[0:30] Speaker 2: of lead secured when I was in the service. So
[0:33] Speaker 2: I came home and visit my parents and stuff. We
[0:37] Speaker 2: live along the Ohio River along US thirty six and
[0:40] Speaker 2: forty two, And on this one particularly October evening, he said, like,
[0:49] Speaker 2: it is right now here in Kentucky. You know, we've
[0:52] Speaker 2: had weather like seventy eighty degrees here, you know. And
[1:00] Speaker 2: this after this one afternoon, I had a girlfriend that
[1:04] Speaker 2: I used to see and she called me up if
[1:09] Speaker 2: my parents asked me if I could come up and
[1:11] Speaker 2: we'll go out and do something. So I get all
[1:16] Speaker 2: cleaned up and they're like that and I get in
[1:19] Speaker 2: in the vehicle in my head start heading up to Carleton,
[1:22] Speaker 2: Kentucky on the US thirty six and uh, I got
[1:28] Speaker 2: about three miles up the road. And you gotta understand,
[1:32] Speaker 2: so back in eighty seven, there was no traffic on
[1:36] Speaker 2: the roads here in this county where I'm at. Everything
[1:40] Speaker 2: closed up at five o'clock, you know, And I'm driven
[1:46] Speaker 2: up the road and I was trying to figure out
[1:50] Speaker 2: why was this gentleman in a fur coat? And it's
[1:55] Speaker 2: like eighty five degrees right now, you know. So where
[1:59] Speaker 2: I got up there closed I stopped. I didn't stop.
[2:03] Speaker 2: I just drove slowly, looked through the passenger window, and
[2:07] Speaker 2: I seen this thing. I mean, I didn't understand what
[2:09] Speaker 2: I was seeing. It was the bear. It was more
[2:15] Speaker 2: like a man that was just covered in hair. So
[2:20] Speaker 2: I turned around and I went up the road and
[2:23] Speaker 2: actually turned around, came back, pulled over on the side road,
[2:26] Speaker 2: and got the car and actually followed it down into
[2:29] Speaker 2: the field that was there next to the river. And uh,
[2:35] Speaker 2: not thinking at that time there because I did not
[2:38] Speaker 2: believe in it, But that was something I did never
[2:40] Speaker 2: believe in. I got closer I got to it, it
[2:46] Speaker 2: turned on me and it kind of like crowded me,
[2:50] Speaker 2: you know, screamed at me. I can't really remember what
[2:53] Speaker 2: it was. It was more of a a scream, you know,
[3:00] Speaker 2: and it shook me up pretty bad at that time.
[3:02] Speaker 2: So I went back, I mean I turned around and
[3:03] Speaker 2: went back to the car. Went didn't even go up
[3:06] Speaker 2: to see my girlfriend, turn around, went right back to
[3:09] Speaker 2: my mom and dad's house. Told my parents, well, I
[3:12] Speaker 2: had songs. And my mom looked at me, if you've
[3:16] Speaker 2: been drinking. No I have not, Mom, I just left
[3:19] Speaker 2: the house here, I mean, there's been nowhere. And so
[3:25] Speaker 2: I went into my room and stuff like that, and
[3:28] Speaker 2: I was still pretty shook up. My dad coming in
[3:30] Speaker 2: there and looked at me. You playing still going out
[3:33] Speaker 2: to night? I was, Dad, what I saw at night? No,
[3:35] Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. And from that day on, every
[3:42] Speaker 2: time I could digest something about these creatures, I did.
[3:48] Speaker 2: And I reached out to a bunch of these researchers.
[3:52] Speaker 2: At the time, and in nineteen eighty seven, researchers were
[3:57] Speaker 2: kind of hard to get hold of. You had to
[3:59] Speaker 2: write letters or find somebody who's got a number, and
[4:05] Speaker 2: nobody wanted to really talk to me about it. Nobody
[4:08] Speaker 2: I want to help you out anyway, And they was
[4:16] Speaker 2: all protected, you know, or you're just saying that because
[4:20] Speaker 2: you want to get into my business and everything, you know.
[4:23] Speaker 2: So that's when I started. I say, Okay, everything I
[4:28] Speaker 2: learned stuff, I'm on doctor them. And if somebody asked me,
[4:32] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna share it, share it
[4:35] Speaker 2: to everybody. So those years, I've had several other sidings
[4:42] Speaker 2: who encounters. The best one was my really best one
[4:48] Speaker 2: was was in twenty fourteen here in Tremble County, and
[4:55] Speaker 2: it was on one of the properties that a gentleman
[5:00] Speaker 2: had told me that he saw a bear. Because you know,
[5:08] Speaker 2: by this time here I was out of the service,
[5:10] Speaker 2: you know, and I said, wow, can I might might
[5:14] Speaker 2: as I go back in there and mess around and
[5:16] Speaker 2: take the sea And by this time here I was
[5:19] Speaker 2: already casting and stuff like that. He's sure, go ahead,
[5:25] Speaker 2: you know, the four wheelers go across the fielder and
[5:28] Speaker 2: ope the gate. Make sure you shut the gate and stuff.
[5:30] Speaker 2: I said, okay, So let me get back. And there's
[5:33] Speaker 2: an access road, the log they called the log and
[5:36] Speaker 2: Access road. And we went back down this ridge and
[5:39] Speaker 2: it's a pretty deep bridge and then nothing but wood stick,
[5:43] Speaker 2: beef thickets, and uh, I get back to this one
[5:48] Speaker 2: spot that was kind of clear, and I stopped real
[5:52] Speaker 2: quick on the full whel because it seems disturbance on
[5:55] Speaker 2: the ground and loll and behold everything, fresh clean footprints.
[6:02] Speaker 2: It was about eighteen inches long, and I mean they
[6:06] Speaker 2: were really a good shape because the clay that was
[6:08] Speaker 2: that we have here, I mean, these were really good
[6:11] Speaker 2: and they were really fresh. So I got four women
[6:18] Speaker 2: and I'm setting there measuring, taking notes everything about the surroundings,
[6:25] Speaker 2: about the weather conditions, about how deep the prince were,
[6:29] Speaker 2: any impropurities or anything. And then I got my casting
[6:38] Speaker 2: material out, start getting my cast and get ready to
[6:40] Speaker 2: cast the prince and stuff. And I always paic a
[6:43] Speaker 2: Handgod with me, because you never know who you're going
[6:45] Speaker 2: to run into or what you're going to run into
[6:47] Speaker 2: out in the woods. And since he said he saw
[6:50] Speaker 2: a bear, I had. I had a bread of ninety
[6:53] Speaker 2: two that took with me. So but well, if you
[6:59] Speaker 2: invite some of them have chasted. You know, I adn't
[7:02] Speaker 2: going to get to the way when you're down there
[7:04] Speaker 2: trying to get steff done and ever like that. So
[7:07] Speaker 2: you know, I took it off, hung it on the
[7:08] Speaker 2: side of my four wheeler, which was maybe thirty feet
[7:13] Speaker 2: away from me, maybe further than that. But I'm sitting
[7:19] Speaker 2: there and I'm still majoring and writing my notebook and stuff,
[7:22] Speaker 2: and I'm getting great to mix up me some claster
[7:24] Speaker 2: and I got the whipp something what is this? And
[7:31] Speaker 2: I looked up and on the other side of my
[7:33] Speaker 2: four wheeler this thing was standing there and it was huge,
[7:45] Speaker 2: wide chest. Uh it's time. I didn't know how tall
[7:52] Speaker 2: it was. That was just huge, you know. And what
[7:58] Speaker 2: I had not my guard down because he's a fresh
[8:02] Speaker 2: prance and I didn't take into a fact, you know,
[8:05] Speaker 2: accounted this thing might still be in the area, and
[8:08] Speaker 2: it still was. So it was watching me. And I
[8:12] Speaker 2: turned around and saw that, and we looked out eyed
[8:17] Speaker 2: each other, and I had, you know, to make a decision.
[8:23] Speaker 2: Was I'm going to jump up and run and get
[8:25] Speaker 2: my handguns from my four wheel liter or just sit there?
[8:29] Speaker 2: And I sit there and I watched it, and what
[8:34] Speaker 2: seemed like an eternity was only seconds. It lifted its
[8:39] Speaker 2: head and kind of like sniffed air, grubbed a little
[8:44] Speaker 2: bit and didn't just walk off down the ridge. And
[8:52] Speaker 2: at this time, here is you know, my wife gave
[8:54] Speaker 2: you a cetle phone. And I keep tearing him up
[8:57] Speaker 2: when I'm out in the woods and she got me
[9:00] Speaker 2: a flip phone with a real cute flipball, you know.
[9:05] Speaker 2: So I grab my phone and open it up, and
[9:08] Speaker 2: I'm getting ready trying to give up the video up
[9:10] Speaker 2: and they're like that, and I'm behind it watching it.
[9:15] Speaker 2: I'm not paying attention to the phone. I just got
[9:16] Speaker 2: it pointed to that thing, and I got it recorded.
[9:20] Speaker 2: I don't move in with it, you know. As it moved,
[9:22] Speaker 2: I moved a little bit. Well, it just peered over
[9:27] Speaker 2: the ridge and I lost sight of it in the vegetation,
[9:32] Speaker 2: and I turned around, grabbed everything and got on the
[9:35] Speaker 2: phone and then went back to my vehicle. I left
[9:41] Speaker 2: everything there set for forward, and I got home and
[9:47] Speaker 2: I was so excited because I had this video. And
[9:49] Speaker 2: my wife looked at it and says, if you do something
[9:52] Speaker 2: on video every day or something, and I said, yeah,
[9:54] Speaker 2: I deah, I got it really nice and grab them
[9:58] Speaker 2: just thing off my phone and my wife looked at
[10:02] Speaker 2: me and said, that was one nice Sure, I bought you.
[10:05] Speaker 2: And in the confusion, I accidentally switched the camera view
[10:10] Speaker 2: to what it was feeling me. I tell people this
[10:16] Speaker 2: because it's heat in the moment. Things happened. Mistakes were
[10:22] Speaker 2: made and that was a mistakes. But I worked that
[10:26] Speaker 2: area for several years until they started logging it. And
[10:31] Speaker 2: after it logged it, the area just became, you know,
[10:36] Speaker 2: there was nothing there. So a gentleman contacted me here
[10:44] Speaker 2: a couple of years later. I said, yeah, I got
[10:48] Speaker 2: something going on here in my carpet, and we will
[10:50] Speaker 2: come out and check it out. And I heard about
[10:52] Speaker 2: the name Okay, and it was out there a couple
[10:56] Speaker 2: of times and we had some experiences. And by this
[11:01] Speaker 2: time here my wife told me, you know what else
[11:04] Speaker 2: you do? Internet thing? You know, get on social media,
[11:09] Speaker 2: start you have a thing, share your information. And I did,
[11:13] Speaker 2: and I called it another contacted b put research crew
[11:18] Speaker 2: and I call it a crew because each person in
[11:21] Speaker 2: this team of mine has a search and skill. We
[11:30] Speaker 2: had audio video you know where they got and it's
[11:36] Speaker 2: a group. And we sat down and we discussed things.
[11:42] Speaker 2: Everybody's got the input, and I give it credit everybody
[11:45] Speaker 2: that things happened. If we give you know something, uh
[11:51] Speaker 2: for example, uh, the new tailler cat. We had a
[11:56] Speaker 2: charge totael out there and something got it opened up,
[11:59] Speaker 2: took up each school out of it. I pros the
[12:02] Speaker 2: jar after I found it and casting it, well, the
[12:07] Speaker 2: jar and everything was uh, Steve Cornell and my idea. Yeah,
[12:13] Speaker 2: I actually gave Steve, you know, total biding with Steve,
[12:16] Speaker 2: and you know Steve Cornell and me, you know, I
[12:19] Speaker 2: share it. You know, it wasn't just me, you know,
[12:25] Speaker 2: so as a group, everybody's gonna say it, even though
[12:30] Speaker 2: I got the last say, but everybody's got a voice,
[12:34] Speaker 2: not like an organization. Yeah, we don't charge no people
[12:39] Speaker 2: or nothing like that. When we go out or we've
[12:42] Speaker 2: had people go out with us, we don't charge. Uh,
[12:47] Speaker 2: We're happy to teach, you know, tracking stuff like that.
[12:52] Speaker 2: Oh no, this new area you gotta start talking about. Mhm.
[13:00] Speaker 2: I took my team in and we spent a week
[13:02] Speaker 2: in it there and we had some really wild stuff
[13:07] Speaker 2: happened to us. You know, we saw some awards. We
[13:11] Speaker 2: don't know what the words are, so you know, we
[13:14] Speaker 2: really don't dwell on it. I document it and stuff
[13:18] Speaker 2: like that, and you try to figure out, you know,
[13:21] Speaker 2: is there something with gases or is it static electricity.
[13:26] Speaker 2: I don't believe it's any phenomenon that happens with people.
[13:29] Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's a lot of things we
[13:30] Speaker 2: would say, if you spend a lot of time in
[13:34] Speaker 2: the words, you'll see a lot of weird stuff that
[13:39] Speaker 2: you can't explain. So there's no need in speaking about it.
[13:43] Speaker 2: And you know, telling people I don't know what it is. Yeah,
[13:49] Speaker 2: I just keep it quiet, document it and you know,
[13:53] Speaker 2: and try to figure it out. But it was cold
[13:57] Speaker 2: with us. It is that and attempt to drop. Like
[14:01] Speaker 2: in the low thirties, we had a little bit of
[14:04] Speaker 2: a ten mile fifty mind hour breeze and me and
[14:13] Speaker 2: Chief Chief often he's one of my best friends and
[14:19] Speaker 2: one of my members. We stayed up and kept the
[14:23] Speaker 2: fire going real good. You know, we had a big
[14:24] Speaker 2: fire going, so everybody was stay warm, you know, hypothermia
[14:28] Speaker 2: wouldn't set in or nothing like that. But by four
[14:32] Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, uh we uh, I decided to
[14:40] Speaker 2: so keep you know, we want us We're going to
[14:42] Speaker 2: do a little bit of rest to night. The fire
[14:44] Speaker 2: you know, really going and stuff. I mean, nobody's gonna
[14:47] Speaker 2: nothing's going to happen. So you understand, we sleep in
[14:53] Speaker 2: zero grabby chairs in the sleeping bags. We don't sleep
[14:56] Speaker 2: under a tent. Oh, we have a a canopy. And
[15:03] Speaker 2: then the canopy is opened and that way we're sleeping
[15:05] Speaker 2: the chairs and if something happens, we're able to grab
[15:09] Speaker 2: our equipment and go. Right there. We're trying to unders
[15:12] Speaker 2: up a kid and crawl out and of them. You know,
[15:16] Speaker 2: everything's there and all we got to do is set
[15:18] Speaker 2: up uns, up our bags and go as soon as
[15:23] Speaker 2: being a chief. He got in his chair and I
[15:26] Speaker 2: got in my chair, and we got really nice and war.
[15:29] Speaker 2: This thing from flying down the hill right behind she
[15:33] Speaker 2: not more than fifteen feet running, and the thing was big.
[15:40] Speaker 2: And lord, we're just trying to get out of those
[15:47] Speaker 2: bags quick enough, but this thing was so fast and
[15:51] Speaker 2: we didn't have a chance to even get our equipment
[15:53] Speaker 2: out in that same area too. You know this in
[15:59] Speaker 2: the summer time. H Dusty were part of my team,
[16:03] Speaker 2: and he was sitting on edge of the camp and
[16:08] Speaker 2: I'm checking on everybody. I'm up at the fire. Because
[16:12] Speaker 2: we don't run out in the woods and beat on
[16:14] Speaker 2: trees and scream and nothing like that. Uh, we go
[16:18] Speaker 2: into it. We sit in our base camp and we
[16:20] Speaker 2: observe it, you know, and these things will come into you.
[16:24] Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about it. But as someone
[16:30] Speaker 2: who runs a team, I have to be responsible, but
[16:32] Speaker 2: I have to make sure everybody's comfortable, everybody's safe. So
[16:37] Speaker 2: I'm going around checking on everybody. And the fire I
[16:40] Speaker 2: have people up are talking. It's like you go to
[16:44] Speaker 2: camp fire, people going, you know, laughing, cheer it on.
[16:50] Speaker 2: And I'm up there in cheef. No one's dusty. Hey Tom,
[16:54] Speaker 2: come out here a minute, and I come down because
[16:58] Speaker 2: I got this hotspot and he goes, just came up
[17:01] Speaker 2: right there, and they had to moved for a while.
[17:03] Speaker 2: Can you think about it? You look at it? I said, yeah,
[17:07] Speaker 2: And I get my my thermal out and I'm looking
[17:11] Speaker 2: and I see what he's talking about, and it didn't move,
[17:16] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it stood up, raised up.
[17:21] Speaker 2: That's there it is, I said, just raised up and
[17:23] Speaker 2: we're watching it, and this thing, actually belly crud, you know,
[17:27] Speaker 2: got back down to belly crag between creed to tree
[17:31] Speaker 2: and toward us, and it got so close to us that,
[17:36] Speaker 2: you know, we're sitting there. There's five of us. We're
[17:39] Speaker 2: all setting there with thermals watching it, and it's watching us.
[17:44] Speaker 2: And it was like two and a half hours we
[17:48] Speaker 2: did this m H. And then all of a sudden
[17:53] Speaker 2: it just disappeared. Well, the reason it disappeared was next
[17:58] Speaker 2: morning we got up. This thing was not more than
[18:01] Speaker 2: maybe three car leagues fromise. Do you have no sense
[18:07] Speaker 2: of the uh distance with a firm, and there was
[18:14] Speaker 2: actually three carlings away from us and the creek that
[18:19] Speaker 2: was down below there, and what we believed was it
[18:22] Speaker 2: actually kind of barely crawled down the creek bed behind
[18:25] Speaker 2: the bank. But I have five people that signed the
[18:32] Speaker 2: appidamus that they thought was the same as I did,
[18:37] Speaker 2: and we video taped it.
[18:44] Speaker 1: Uh.
[18:48] Speaker 2: But this this place there was there's numerous times that
[18:53] Speaker 2: we have had interaction. But now the proper owner here,
[19:00] Speaker 2: he's got kind of into a space where he wants
[19:03] Speaker 2: to bring a whole lot of people out, you know,
[19:05] Speaker 2: and if you're not carefully, you go burn an area out,
[19:12] Speaker 2: uh the stress to the point where the wildlife believe,
[19:16] Speaker 2: and then there's no food source and mh. You just
[19:24] Speaker 2: have to move out for a while and let things
[19:26] Speaker 2: build back in. And that's what we were doing this year.
[19:29] Speaker 2: You know, last few years nothing has happened, and I decided, well,
[19:36] Speaker 2: I'm gonna let this area of rest because I have
[19:38] Speaker 2: another area that's really active right now. And I'm working,
[19:42] Speaker 2: and so there's a couple of other things that's half
[19:47] Speaker 2: happened that. Uh, I'm not really wanting to talk about
[19:51] Speaker 2: it right now. H I haven't a couple of terms
[19:56] Speaker 2: with it yet, but yeah, it will come out, Tom.
[20:02] Speaker 1: There's a lot of work that goes into investigating sasquatch.
[20:05] Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you that you've lived that.
[20:07] Speaker 1: But with that in mind, are there times when you're
[20:10] Speaker 1: out there in the field where you start to second
[20:13] Speaker 1: guess whether it's a good idea for you to continue
[20:15] Speaker 1: doing that?
[20:18] Speaker 2: And like what means I mean, uh, there are times, Yes,
[20:28] Speaker 2: you hear a lot of these people say, well, they're
[20:30] Speaker 2: not dangerous nothing, Okay, they're animals just like everything else,
[20:33] Speaker 2: like us. You know, they're gonna wake up one day
[20:36] Speaker 2: and have a bad attitude, you know, a truthdachs or
[20:39] Speaker 2: a headache, or and become dangerous. You never know.
[20:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like us. They could get up on
[20:48] Speaker 1: the wrong side of the log and it could be
[20:51] Speaker 1: a handful. So that does make sense, it really does.
[20:56] Speaker 2: It's like, yes, actually, these people they won't go out
[20:58] Speaker 2: at night and they want to chase sumpthing you know
[21:00] Speaker 2: they've got. I said Okay. Now, if you go out
[21:04] Speaker 2: there and you're going you actually do run into one,
[21:06] Speaker 2: you need to start following it. I said, you get
[21:09] Speaker 2: it cornered. What are you going to do when you
[21:11] Speaker 2: get cornered? Here, you got an eight hundred to one
[21:15] Speaker 2: thousand pounds creature that's way stronger than you are, that
[21:19] Speaker 2: could rip your arms, you know, out of your sockets.
[21:23] Speaker 2: What are you going to do?
[21:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, it's not really anything you can do.
[21:29] Speaker 1: You mentioned that you always try to have a firearm
[21:32] Speaker 1: with you, and I understand why you do that, But
[21:34] Speaker 1: do you think that sometimes having that firearm with you
[21:37] Speaker 1: compromises the results you get?
[21:41] Speaker 2: No, No, it depends on out. We don't have them
[21:53] Speaker 2: waving around, We don't. We don't have them out or
[21:55] Speaker 2: nothing like that. They're actually usually put in a box,
[22:00] Speaker 2: you know, our little field box. We have stuff like that.
[22:04] Speaker 2: But you know, if we go out, like if I'm
[22:09] Speaker 2: out by myself, I'll carry one. But it's just like
[22:17] Speaker 2: anything else, creatures can sense if you're a danger.
[22:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good idea of keeping them in a box.
[22:24] Speaker 1: But somehow, some way, it seems like they know if
[22:27] Speaker 1: you have any firearms with you. So even if you
[22:29] Speaker 1: have it in a box, it seems like they still
[22:31] Speaker 1: know you've got it. And with some people they think
[22:35] Speaker 1: that just by having one in your possession that really
[22:38] Speaker 1: decreases the odds of actually seeing one. But I was
[22:41] Speaker 1: just wondering what your thoughts were on that.
[22:43] Speaker 2: No, No, in my group, I have two other people
[22:49] Speaker 2: at cherry handgun and we've had interactions, you know, when
[22:53] Speaker 2: we're out in the field.
[22:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny how that works. Some people swear up
[22:58] Speaker 1: and down that once it starts curing a firearm, everything stopped.
[23:02] Speaker 1: They never had any more activity, while others they carry
[23:05] Speaker 1: firearms and they still get activity all the time. So yeah,
[23:09] Speaker 1: I've always wondered about that which way it actually does work.
[23:14] Speaker 2: Well, that's the point about it is, is you know, Well,
[23:17] Speaker 2: I was saying, when you stress an area out, you
[23:19] Speaker 2: run another wildlife out and stuff like that, you're overworking area.
[23:23] Speaker 2: Things move out, So you know, it might not be
[23:27] Speaker 2: the firearm. It might be you know, you just overwork
[23:31] Speaker 2: the area.
[23:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. That's definitely possible. A bit ago,
[23:36] Speaker 1: you mentioned Dusty Ruth and it's funny. That's pretty ironic
[23:40] Speaker 1: because I actually interviewed Dusty last night for a show.
[23:44] Speaker 1: So when you mentioned him, I thought, Wow, a small world.
[23:47] Speaker 1: How'd you meet him?
[23:51] Speaker 2: He started following me on on social media and dam
[23:58] Speaker 2: it down there at expertition Bigfoot in Georgia wanted me
[24:04] Speaker 2: to come down and do a speaking engagement and I
[24:07] Speaker 2: said sure, And I've talked to Dusty, you know online.
[24:16] Speaker 2: You asked some questions and stuff like that, you know,
[24:20] Speaker 2: but he grew from southern Illinois all the way to
[24:24] Speaker 2: Georgia just to meet me and listen to my And
[24:32] Speaker 2: ever since then, me and Dusky have been really good. Crimp.
[24:35] Speaker 1: He's a great man, he really is. Before twenty nineteen,
[24:40] Speaker 1: when you had that first sighting, you said you didn't
[24:43] Speaker 1: believe in sasquatch. But were you one of those people
[24:46] Speaker 1: who had actually laughed at people who came forward to
[24:48] Speaker 1: talk about their experiences or did you just brush it
[24:51] Speaker 1: off as nonsense?
[24:55] Speaker 2: Well, I kind of I'm more or less like I
[25:00] Speaker 2: did kind of chuckle a couple of times. But I'll
[25:02] Speaker 2: tell you I had a friend and he's passed now.
[25:09] Speaker 2: We were squirrel hunting in southern Indiana, and no it
[25:16] Speaker 2: was rabbit hunt at that time, and we didn't in
[25:20] Speaker 2: this area. We didn't have nothing happened, you know, we
[25:25] Speaker 2: didn't see we'd jump a rabbit. Nothing. So we kind
[25:29] Speaker 2: of split up a little bit, and about a few
[25:32] Speaker 2: minutes later, he come running back and he's scared. He said,
[25:35] Speaker 2: he goes, Tom, there's a there's a there's a seven
[25:38] Speaker 2: foot naked man over there with a lot of hair
[25:41] Speaker 2: all over him. And I looked at him and I
[25:46] Speaker 2: kind of kind of chuckled because dude, I said, it
[25:50] Speaker 2: was up late last night watching TV? Was he?
[25:54] Speaker 1: You know?
[25:54] Speaker 2: You know, it never did cross my mind. But after
[25:56] Speaker 2: my siding, you know, in eighty seven, yuh, that happened
[26:00] Speaker 2: in eighty four, and in eighty seven I had mine,
[26:08] Speaker 2: I come to find out that that area was actually
[26:11] Speaker 2: an active area. So yeah, and I went back and
[26:20] Speaker 2: asked that ask him when they asked, tell me what
[26:23] Speaker 2: you saw, and he said the same thing that he
[26:26] Speaker 2: said there.
[26:28] Speaker 1: How far is that spot from where you live?
[26:30] Speaker 2: Now? Oh, that's about an hour and a half of
[26:36] Speaker 2: me right now.
[26:38] Speaker 1: Okay, so not that far.
[26:39] Speaker 2: Then.
[26:41] Speaker 1: How often do you and Dusty investigate together?
[26:47] Speaker 2: Well, lives doing it for there for a while, almost
[26:49] Speaker 2: almost every other week. But with the weather this time
[26:55] Speaker 2: this year, we I haven't really done much. It's a spring.
[27:01] Speaker 2: We had a lot of rain, the flooding here, and
[27:05] Speaker 2: then we had the extreme heat, and then we turned
[27:07] Speaker 2: around we had to make storms and it just was
[27:12] Speaker 2: a mess this year. And I'm sixty two years old
[27:19] Speaker 2: and Dusty is a little older. He's about a little young,
[27:22] Speaker 2: about the same age I am. Yeah, And getting out
[27:26] Speaker 2: in the woods and inclimate weather like that, well, it's
[27:30] Speaker 2: kind of dangerous for us now. So we have to
[27:35] Speaker 2: actually pick a really good time when we go out
[27:38] Speaker 2: and stuff because we're going down places like private property.
[27:43] Speaker 2: We're not going in parks or nothing like that. We're
[27:45] Speaker 2: on private property. And sometimes we have to use cybeer
[27:49] Speaker 2: sides just to get back into the area with no
[27:53] Speaker 2: way to drive our vehicles. We industry just did a
[27:58] Speaker 2: conference here, uh, and I believe no, I'm sorry, September,
[28:04] Speaker 2: first part September, the last part we did the Indiana
[28:11] Speaker 2: Bigfoot Research Organization conference. Uh. Recently.
[28:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you two are very sought after as
[28:20] Speaker 1: far as guest speakers go, so I believe it. A
[28:24] Speaker 1: bit ago you said that every investigator on your team
[28:27] Speaker 1: has a different skill. What would you say is Dusty's
[28:30] Speaker 1: best skill?
[28:34] Speaker 2: He's got quite a few casty audio video uh be
[28:41] Speaker 2: a season researcher. He actually does the long rain h
[28:49] Speaker 2: long duration recording devices. H. He set those up.
[28:57] Speaker 1: He was talking about that on the last night's show. Yeah,
[29:00] Speaker 1: when he was talking about how he does that, I
[29:02] Speaker 1: was thinking, Wow, it sounds like he does set those
[29:04] Speaker 1: up to record for an awfully long time, really long time.
[29:09] Speaker 1: What's about time for us to get out of here, Tom,
[29:11] Speaker 1: But before we do, what's the best way of for
[29:13] Speaker 1: an eyewitness who had a sighting in Kentucky to report
[29:16] Speaker 1: their sighting to you?
[29:19] Speaker 2: Just a long line to the Northern Kentucky? Did put
[29:22] Speaker 2: research group on Facebook? You can join there or actually
[29:31] Speaker 2: just look me up on the internet because I'm out
[29:35] Speaker 2: there with my email address and phone number out there.
[29:41] Speaker 2: Give me a call or give me send me an email,
[29:44] Speaker 2: and I won't wait till three days. If you have
[29:46] Speaker 2: a sighting within an hour, I don't care if it's
[29:53] Speaker 2: one o'clock in the morning or four o'clock in the morning.
[29:56] Speaker 2: You know I'm going to be in the car on
[29:58] Speaker 2: my way because it's a fresh sighting. You know, I
[30:02] Speaker 2: want to be there because there should be some there
[30:04] Speaker 2: should still be in the area.
[30:07] Speaker 1: Well, you're really responsive. That's impressive. And would you be
[30:10] Speaker 1: okay if I posted that information in the description for
[30:13] Speaker 1: tonight's show as far as your contact info. Sure, okay, great,
[30:19] Speaker 1: I'll do that.
[30:19] Speaker 2: Then.
[30:20] Speaker 1: Well, Tom, I can't tell you how much I appreciate
[30:23] Speaker 1: you coming on and share those experiences with this and
[30:25] Speaker 1: that info. I really appreciate it.
[30:28] Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
[30:31] Speaker 1: Well, you know you're welcome. Thanks against so mature time,
[30:34] Speaker 1: and have a great night. That's it for another episode
[30:43] Speaker 1: of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff. If you've had
[30:48] Speaker 1: a sasquatch encounter and would like to be a guest
[30:50] Speaker 1: on the show, please go to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com
[30:53] Speaker 1: and submit a report.
[30:55] Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you.
[30:57] Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, a great knight.

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