# Interior B.C Sasquatch Encounters - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 469

An episode of [Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1176349237), 3 May 2025, 54 min.

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Tonight’s guest, Gin Zubrickas, lives in a small town, in the interior of British Columbia. Spending as much time as he does in the outdoors there, it might seem surprising to you to hear that he didn’t have his first Sasquatch experience until Labor Day weekend, 7 years ago. That’s when he had it, though. That first experience was just the tip of the iceberg. Gin has had numerous experiences with a Sasquatch clan in his area since that day. On tonight’s show, he’ll explain how this all started for him. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to him talk about that first experience and more. Gin has a YouTube Channel called “Sasquatch Interior B.C.” On it, he has videos where he talks about the experiences he’s had with the Forest People in his area. He also talks about evidence he’s found. To visit his channel, please go to… https://www.youtube.com/@graysonbowering8230 If you’ve had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 3 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 3 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening!

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: If you've had a big foot siding it would like
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[0:08] Speaker 2: Hello there. My name is again Zeberkis. I am a grandfather.
[0:14] Speaker 2: I am a father of too lovely boys who live
[0:18] Speaker 2: in closest proximity to me here. I live in Merritt,
[0:22] Speaker 2: British Columbia, which is a very small town of about
[0:25] Speaker 2: eight thousand people. The area is I live in the
[0:29] Speaker 2: interior of British Columbia, which is a high high lands okay,
[0:34] Speaker 2: and it is semi arid in climbing, and there's a
[0:39] Speaker 2: lot of lakes here. I like to fish, so you know,
[0:42] Speaker 2: I came here for that, and basically the trees so
[0:46] Speaker 2: you can walk through these. There's a large pool. Pines
[0:49] Speaker 2: are sporadic around here and in groups of them, so
[0:53] Speaker 2: you can walk through the trees. You know, they're not
[0:56] Speaker 2: too thick. There's a lot of climbing here. I I've
[1:01] Speaker 2: always been a type of athlete or running and or hiking.
[1:06] Speaker 2: I always loved running in the lids, you know, it
[1:10] Speaker 2: was my special thing to do. And when I moved here,
[1:12] Speaker 2: I started going up the mountains because there are mountain
[1:16] Speaker 2: bike trails up here, and I enjoyed running, you know,
[1:21] Speaker 2: which is something I can tell you about in a
[1:24] Speaker 2: little bit here. Yeah, British Columbia. I never, I never
[1:31] Speaker 2: thought I would, you know, be here with you, Vic.
[1:36] Speaker 2: And it is a strange thing too, because I used
[1:39] Speaker 2: to listen to your shows a lot, and you know,
[1:43] Speaker 2: and novere never realized that I would be here talking
[1:46] Speaker 2: with you at this time. So yeah, everything, it's a
[1:51] Speaker 2: beautiful day here. Everything's good here. And Mike, I'm I'm
[1:59] Speaker 2: an educated men. I studied art in Toronto. I did
[2:05] Speaker 2: an animation degree and an art degree there and I
[2:08] Speaker 2: worked in the industry, in the animation industry for quite
[2:12] Speaker 2: some time. I worked in Vancouver, I worked for the
[2:16] Speaker 2: government as a filmmaker. And now as I'm older, I
[2:22] Speaker 2: jumped into painting. I paint landscapes, but they're metaphysical in
[2:28] Speaker 2: a sense, and I try to what my goal is
[2:31] Speaker 2: to try to express energy, which is funny because it's
[2:36] Speaker 2: you know, that's what's happening now currently. I do so
[2:40] Speaker 2: and I'm helping you know that people will, you know,
[2:44] Speaker 2: get aware of this kind of stuff that I want
[2:47] Speaker 2: to make. Awareness of nature and how important it is
[2:50] Speaker 2: to be out there, and I'm going to go right
[2:54] Speaker 2: into what happened to me. My first subsquatch experience was
[3:00] Speaker 2: even years ago here and there. I used to run
[3:04] Speaker 2: the trails up up on the mountains. Here they have
[3:07] Speaker 2: groom trails. They have a lot of switchbacks, climbs, you know,
[3:13] Speaker 2: hidden hidden corners, you know sort of thing. And it's
[3:16] Speaker 2: quite long. It's about five miles up up the mountain.
[3:19] Speaker 2: And I used to do this daily. And seven years ago,
[3:24] Speaker 2: on one fine, beautiful, hot June day, I found myself sweating,
[3:30] Speaker 2: you know, climbing and running. And at the end of
[3:34] Speaker 2: this trail, which was up on the mountain quite near me,
[3:37] Speaker 2: actually I can see it from here, and I was
[3:41] Speaker 2: what happened to me was I was climbing, I was sweating,
[3:44] Speaker 2: I was near finished my run or jog right, and
[3:48] Speaker 2: I was going up in incline. I was really really hot,
[3:53] Speaker 2: and it was a still day. And I think I
[3:56] Speaker 2: forgot something major was to clap my hands, you know,
[3:59] Speaker 2: and I said there was around around the top, right.
[4:03] Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking like that. I was just sweating and
[4:05] Speaker 2: and and you know, really really tired, you know, and
[4:09] Speaker 2: kind of hoffing up this incline and I reached the
[4:13] Speaker 2: top of the syncline on the on the trail, and
[4:17] Speaker 2: I remember I was really really tired, breathing heavily. When
[4:21] Speaker 2: I got to the top, there was a female bear
[4:26] Speaker 2: almost at me. It was charging up the hill on
[4:28] Speaker 2: the other side. It was on me in an instant. Okay,
[4:33] Speaker 2: I just reacted. I stood on my tipy toes. It
[4:36] Speaker 2: was coming up the hill. I was on the on
[4:39] Speaker 2: the crest of the hill on the trail, and you know, yeah,
[4:45] Speaker 2: it was. It was horrifying. It came at me so fast,
[4:49] Speaker 2: it was charging up the hill. I looked to my left,
[4:52] Speaker 2: my left eye noticed the two cubs just starting away
[4:55] Speaker 2: way below. She was already charging and on me. I
[4:59] Speaker 2: didn't I think. I just thought about I quickly thought
[5:02] Speaker 2: about my head and it would be exposed open with blood.
[5:06] Speaker 2: And that's it. I'm gonna gone her, right, that's it.
[5:08] Speaker 2: But I stood up and I you know, I retaliated,
[5:11] Speaker 2: and I screamed as loud as I could. I roared
[5:14] Speaker 2: and stood on my toes and screamed. And you know what,
[5:19] Speaker 2: it turned around. It stopped at yards away from me,
[5:22] Speaker 2: and it bolted down the hill again. Uh, it went
[5:26] Speaker 2: down about I don't know, about twenty yards. Then it
[5:30] Speaker 2: turned around and did this hop and it comes bolting
[5:33] Speaker 2: up the hell again. I thought, I'm going to die
[5:36] Speaker 2: for sure. It's a mother bear, you know, you know,
[5:39] Speaker 2: they make the choice, you know. So I started all
[5:44] Speaker 2: I could do at that time. It was so fast.
[5:47] Speaker 2: She was coming up again and I saw I remember,
[5:51] Speaker 2: you know, her eyes, you know, I could see her
[5:53] Speaker 2: eyes coming up at me. And what I did was,
[5:56] Speaker 2: you know, in her claws, you know, roaming how so
[5:59] Speaker 2: this is her claws and coming up fast, and I well,
[6:02] Speaker 2: I thought, well, I can only you know, try to
[6:05] Speaker 2: punch it in the nose right to you know, flight
[6:07] Speaker 2: back right. It's black bear. But it was big, you know,
[6:12] Speaker 2: and it was angry. So I held back with my
[6:17] Speaker 2: right arm, and I thought, well, I got to protect myself.
[6:19] Speaker 2: And I came to a few yards again and it stopped,
[6:24] Speaker 2: and then it bolted way down the hill. It bolted
[6:28] Speaker 2: all the way down. We done my and then it stopped,
[6:32] Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, I'm my god, you know, I
[6:36] Speaker 2: made it out of this, you know, I'm alive, right,
[6:38] Speaker 2: So I started backing up over the crest and down
[6:41] Speaker 2: the other side right watching it and it was down there,
[6:46] Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the third time, it
[6:49] Speaker 2: starts bolting up and starts charging all the way from
[6:51] Speaker 2: the bottom and coming up fast. And I thought, oh
[6:54] Speaker 2: no on a certain time, you know, oh no, what
[6:56] Speaker 2: am I going to do? I had a lot of
[6:58] Speaker 2: time this time because of the since, so I grabbed
[7:02] Speaker 2: a rock, you know, I have a fairly decent sized rock,
[7:06] Speaker 2: and it was bolting up, and I waited and I
[7:08] Speaker 2: waited until it was closer, and I threw that rock
[7:11] Speaker 2: as hard as I could, and it glimced off her
[7:14] Speaker 2: right eye and it thunder and that was it. Okay.
[7:20] Speaker 2: She bolted down the hill and was gone. And I was.
[7:24] Speaker 2: I was a nervous wreck. I was, you know, I
[7:27] Speaker 2: think I thought I was. I died three times, you
[7:30] Speaker 2: know that day I bolted down the hill, and I thought, well,
[7:35] Speaker 2: you know, what if it's going to come back to
[7:37] Speaker 2: you know, chase me, you know. So I wasn't good
[7:40] Speaker 2: to go back down the trail, you know, it was
[7:42] Speaker 2: way too long. So I just went straight down the mountain,
[7:45] Speaker 2: you know, and uh and I made it home safe,
[7:49] Speaker 2: and I remember I sprinted down that mountain and just
[7:54] Speaker 2: a nervous wreck and I was vibrating, you know, I
[7:58] Speaker 2: only thought of myself. Yeah, I saw myself dead there,
[8:03] Speaker 2: like I said, with my head open and blood and
[8:06] Speaker 2: and somebody would find me eventually, but i'd be dead
[8:08] Speaker 2: by then. That's what I thought. That's all I thought.
[8:10] Speaker 2: I didn't I just looked into her eyes and I
[8:13] Speaker 2: saw that, you know, the brown in her eyes and
[8:16] Speaker 2: her eye her eyes had a look of you know,
[8:19] Speaker 2: I'm just doing this for my kids, right, Look, it
[8:22] Speaker 2: was they were somber, you know, and uh, it was something.
[8:27] Speaker 2: So anyways, there went my I had PTSD. I reported this,
[8:32] Speaker 2: and they closed down the mountain sort of, and they
[8:35] Speaker 2: looked for the bear and once they found it, they
[8:37] Speaker 2: put up a polster and all that stuff, and it
[8:40] Speaker 2: was in the paper, you know, for the kids and
[8:42] Speaker 2: all that. But they didn't shoot it or anything like.
[8:45] Speaker 2: You know. It was just these were bluff charges. But
[8:48] Speaker 2: I didn't know it at the time, you know, I
[8:50] Speaker 2: thought it was sincerely dead. So you know, it was something.
[8:54] Speaker 2: And I came home and told I told my family,
[8:57] Speaker 2: you know, I was just mass shaking, and it took
[9:00] Speaker 2: me a long while. I started crying when I met
[9:03] Speaker 2: the Four Street people the next day, like I had.
[9:06] Speaker 2: I vented out. I just started crying over this, and
[9:09] Speaker 2: I had PTSD. For two years. I couldn't go up
[9:13] Speaker 2: the mountain here, you know, I couldn't do what I
[9:16] Speaker 2: love to do, you know, exercise. I still started doing it,
[9:21] Speaker 2: but down below where it was safe, on a road,
[9:24] Speaker 2: you know, And I did that for two years. So
[9:30] Speaker 2: two years, good bye. I'm still afraid to go up.
[9:35] Speaker 2: One day I was running. It was a November day,
[9:37] Speaker 2: it was rainy. I was down on the lower road
[9:41] Speaker 2: and there was mud. There was actually ice ice, you know,
[9:44] Speaker 2: a little crust of ice, and I was running on it.
[9:47] Speaker 2: And usually I take a phone from music, you know,
[9:50] Speaker 2: my cell phone or whatever, and yeah, at that day,
[9:53] Speaker 2: I didn't have it, and I was running and I
[9:56] Speaker 2: almost fell into a trap. Okay, it was barefoot track. Now,
[10:01] Speaker 2: remember this is November, so it's you know, it's very cold,
[10:05] Speaker 2: and it was a very very large humanoid track in
[10:09] Speaker 2: the mud there, you know, And I stopped right and
[10:13] Speaker 2: that that is a subsquatch track. Yeah. Because I did
[10:17] Speaker 2: study and I did smart education. I got an English
[10:21] Speaker 2: degree after that and my my my first three years
[10:26] Speaker 2: under study, I was in an Aboriginal indigenous institution where
[10:30] Speaker 2: we were taught by Aboriginal people, but it was a college, okay,
[10:34] Speaker 2: So I did my undergrad there. Uh and uh, you know,
[10:38] Speaker 2: I met people there were and the subsquatch is a
[10:41] Speaker 2: very common thing. There are five indigenous bands in this area,
[10:45] Speaker 2: like you picture it there. You know, there's many many
[10:47] Speaker 2: Native people here, and it's common knowledge that suskid do
[10:51] Speaker 2: or my subsquatch is uh is present here. You know,
[10:55] Speaker 2: they many many stories. So I was new and new
[10:58] Speaker 2: to this, right, but I saw that track, okay, and
[11:01] Speaker 2: my wife, my wife at the time, was say, she's
[11:05] Speaker 2: an a Virginal, she's native, and some some of my kids,
[11:08] Speaker 2: I'm not Native. I'm Lithuanian, you know, like I'm a
[11:10] Speaker 2: big you know, uh Baltic, you know dude, right, and yeah,
[11:20] Speaker 2: they say, you know, that's common knowledge here. So so
[11:23] Speaker 2: I saw this track and I knew it was a
[11:24] Speaker 2: subsquatch track because I knew not you know, but I
[11:28] Speaker 2: was blown away, and so I ran home. I said,
[11:30] Speaker 2: all excited, and you know, told my my spouse was
[11:34] Speaker 2: pre pre Native and I said, you know what, I
[11:38] Speaker 2: think I just fumble one on the subsquatch track and
[11:41] Speaker 2: she could swe didn't she get a picture of it.
[11:43] Speaker 2: Right where did you take a photo? I said, well,
[11:46] Speaker 2: you know, I forgot my phone. She's silly, like you dumb,
[11:53] Speaker 2: you know, guy, you know you screwed it up. You
[11:57] Speaker 2: know you should have got that picture, right, you know,
[11:59] Speaker 2: then you have proof, right, And I said, well, you know,
[12:02] Speaker 2: well that's the way it was. I still ran. I
[12:06] Speaker 2: ran most days, and I was running down the same road. Okay,
[12:11] Speaker 2: a couple of weeks later, okay, still in the winter,
[12:14] Speaker 2: and you know what, I had my phone and near
[12:18] Speaker 2: the same area there was a right remember, this is
[12:21] Speaker 2: one footprint of it. It's about fourteen inches long. I
[12:25] Speaker 2: still have a picture of it somewhere. It's this a
[12:28] Speaker 2: squatch track of you know, a juvenile I guess it
[12:31] Speaker 2: would be. And it happened again, so I thought, right
[12:34] Speaker 2: where near where I thought the first time, And this
[12:37] Speaker 2: time I had a camera and I took a picture
[12:39] Speaker 2: of it, and indeed I showed it to my wife.
[12:44] Speaker 2: And that's a subsquatch track and it's like really down low.
[12:49] Speaker 2: So I thought, wow, you know they're you know, they're
[12:52] Speaker 2: really you know, I'm still skeptical. You know, I didn't
[12:55] Speaker 2: I didn't call for this, and in any light I
[13:00] Speaker 2: I never called in for this what's happening to me
[13:03] Speaker 2: now and my relationship with the Susquatch people, and you know,
[13:07] Speaker 2: I never never wanted I'm a search for it, you know,
[13:12] Speaker 2: you know, I was just kind of afraid, you know,
[13:15] Speaker 2: sort of you know, there's a big monsters in the
[13:18] Speaker 2: woods here, you know, for real, right in the backyard.
[13:22] Speaker 2: Because I lived adjacent to the mountain, right, I could
[13:25] Speaker 2: go out the back door and go up, go up
[13:27] Speaker 2: the mountain. So yeah, that happened. And the next day
[13:34] Speaker 2: I was running again, and you know what, there was
[13:37] Speaker 2: what you call there was one of the pine trees
[13:40] Speaker 2: had what you call a lean. I had a stick
[13:44] Speaker 2: attached to actually a couple and I was curious as
[13:47] Speaker 2: I thought those sticks leaning against that pine, weren't there
[13:51] Speaker 2: you know, the other who's you know, doing this? Right?
[13:54] Speaker 2: I got curious, and then I looked further up and
[13:57] Speaker 2: there's another lean, okay, going up up the mountain, and
[14:01] Speaker 2: then there's another one. Each day I found more and
[14:04] Speaker 2: more and more, and I was curious. So I followed
[14:06] Speaker 2: these leans up, you know, because you know, I was curious.
[14:10] Speaker 2: And now one day I thought, I think I saw
[14:12] Speaker 2: fifteen and I'm going right, you know, I'm starting to
[14:15] Speaker 2: go up the mountain. You know, I was just curious,
[14:18] Speaker 2: and I'm, you know, two years later, I'm going up
[14:20] Speaker 2: this mountain. I never thought of it. I was just
[14:23] Speaker 2: fascinated because I thought it was subsquatch, you know. The
[14:27] Speaker 2: I started researching, you know, you know, listening to shows
[14:31] Speaker 2: like like yours and and you know, finding out about this.
[14:36] Speaker 2: I started researching about subsquatch, and I found out that
[14:40] Speaker 2: leans were part of their say, you know, part of
[14:42] Speaker 2: their little structures that they do or whatever. And I
[14:45] Speaker 2: went up further and lo and behold. One day there
[14:48] Speaker 2: was this what structure, like a teepee type structure attached
[14:53] Speaker 2: to a pine tree. I thought, wow, you know, isn't
[14:56] Speaker 2: that something, right? And then where I actually found more tracks.
[15:02] Speaker 2: I found more tracks. I found baby tracks. I found
[15:05] Speaker 2: tracks upon tracks. Each time I went up, I went
[15:08] Speaker 2: up further and further and further, and by the time
[15:12] Speaker 2: that I got up to you know, almost three quarters
[15:15] Speaker 2: of the way up the mountain I put up. I
[15:21] Speaker 2: started feeding them, okay, like leaving gifts of the food, right,
[15:25] Speaker 2: So I started I had a gifting walk, as you say,
[15:28] Speaker 2: and up there and yeah, I built three quarters up
[15:31] Speaker 2: the mountain. These aren't high mountains, but they're very They
[15:35] Speaker 2: get really steep up top, and I'll take you a
[15:38] Speaker 2: day to get up and down okay to the ridge. Okay.
[15:41] Speaker 2: So it was about three quarters and I was getting subquestion.
[15:44] Speaker 2: So I immersed myself into research and found out that
[15:49] Speaker 2: I was actually onto something. And I just kept on
[15:52] Speaker 2: following these signs because I'm I am an artist and
[15:55] Speaker 2: I'm curious about their artwork, because I thought it was beautiful,
[15:59] Speaker 2: Like any kind of six structure they put up was
[16:02] Speaker 2: a smart to me. It was beautiful, beautiful to look
[16:05] Speaker 2: at it and really neat the way they put things together, woven,
[16:10] Speaker 2: you know, we've sticks together. It's just really really interesting.
[16:15] Speaker 2: So I'm up going out, you know, most days, because
[16:18] Speaker 2: I'm kind of semi retired, right and I had the time,
[16:21] Speaker 2: and the mountains are right here. So I went up
[16:25] Speaker 2: and up and follow these signals and signs until one
[16:30] Speaker 2: day the next year, after a whole winter this you know,
[16:34] Speaker 2: all this stuff. In next spring or it was another
[16:38] Speaker 2: hot day, I found myself at the ridge all the
[16:42] Speaker 2: way up to the ridge line, to the top of
[16:44] Speaker 2: the mountain. Okay, I was hot. It took me two
[16:48] Speaker 2: hours to climb up there. You know what, following all
[16:51] Speaker 2: these signs of I thought the subsquatch people or subsquatch
[16:56] Speaker 2: I thought were maybe an animal at that time. So
[17:00] Speaker 2: I made it to this ridge. I think it was
[17:02] Speaker 2: about noon or one o'clock. It so hot again. I
[17:05] Speaker 2: was very, very tired. Two hours climbing and the ridge
[17:09] Speaker 2: near when you get near it is a forty five
[17:12] Speaker 2: degree angle going up most of the way, but when
[17:15] Speaker 2: you get near the ridge, it's about seventy five degrees.
[17:17] Speaker 2: So I'm going up, you know, like deer trails, deer tracks,
[17:21] Speaker 2: there's no it's just straight up. Okay, there's no there's
[17:24] Speaker 2: no path or anything. You're just kind of climbing and
[17:26] Speaker 2: you know, support pulling yourself up with small branches, you know,
[17:32] Speaker 2: like trees. Right, you're pulling yourself up to get the top.
[17:36] Speaker 2: And once I made it to the top, I gave
[17:40] Speaker 2: out a real big cry, like you know, I made it.
[17:45] Speaker 2: You know, I cocked my the ridge. I conquered my
[17:48] Speaker 2: fear bears, right, you know, I did it. I did
[17:51] Speaker 2: it right, And so I was really like really tired.
[17:57] Speaker 2: I thought, well, I celebrated and I yelled, you know,
[18:00] Speaker 2: they made this big scream. Right, Yeah, I'm a man,
[18:05] Speaker 2: you know, I got I'm not afraid anymore. So I
[18:08] Speaker 2: conquered that, and I thought I conquered my fear. So
[18:12] Speaker 2: I turned around and started going down on my on
[18:16] Speaker 2: my butt okay, my buttocks, because it was really steep
[18:20] Speaker 2: and I was really tired, so I started kind of
[18:22] Speaker 2: eching down on my but it's all dry and I
[18:25] Speaker 2: dost this, so I'm on my buck down. I'm mountain,
[18:29] Speaker 2: you know, thinking, yeah, okay, I did it, and I'm
[18:32] Speaker 2: very happy. I was down about from ten to twenty
[18:36] Speaker 2: ten to fifteen yards down on my but and you
[18:39] Speaker 2: know what, I heard this noise behind me up on
[18:42] Speaker 2: the ridge that was spoke maybe fifty yards away. I
[18:46] Speaker 2: heard this noise. It was this scream okay, and it
[18:52] Speaker 2: roared and you know, this is the Canadian mid rockies,
[18:58] Speaker 2: and you know what, it sounded like a baby elephant's
[19:03] Speaker 2: screamed and then into a baby elephant like oh, you know,
[19:08] Speaker 2: and and long and very loud, and you know what,
[19:12] Speaker 2: it scared me so much I bolted. I started running
[19:17] Speaker 2: down the hill again. I thought, what the heck is that?
[19:21] Speaker 2: You know, I never heard such a you know, I'm
[19:24] Speaker 2: thinking there's no elephants up hearing, you know, baby elephants?
[19:29] Speaker 2: What was that? I was freaked right up? Okay, I
[19:33] Speaker 2: didn't know it was a subsquatch. I found out, you know,
[19:36] Speaker 2: I knew it later, but at the time, I no.
[19:39] Speaker 2: I I just bolted. So I started like bolting down
[19:43] Speaker 2: the hill and I'm really tired, and it's really hot,
[19:45] Speaker 2: and you know what, it's very steep. And I started to,
[19:48] Speaker 2: you know, jump down and then go really fast down
[19:50] Speaker 2: because I was frightened, you know, I was scared. It's
[19:54] Speaker 2: right out of my mind. I went down, and all
[19:59] Speaker 2: of a sudden, the thought occurred to me that I stop,
[20:03] Speaker 2: you know, because I'm going to break my ankle. Nobody's
[20:06] Speaker 2: gonna find me up here, and I'm going to die
[20:07] Speaker 2: up here. I've got to make it safe safely home. Okay,
[20:11] Speaker 2: back down, and I better slow down and take my
[20:14] Speaker 2: time because I could get hurt bad, right So I
[20:18] Speaker 2: stopped and right there and then I surrendered, Like you know,
[20:24] Speaker 2: I thought, you know, what, if anything's going to take me,
[20:26] Speaker 2: eat me, a mountain lion, whatever that thing was that
[20:29] Speaker 2: screened at me, I'm I'm I'm, I'm I'm it, you know,
[20:34] Speaker 2: I surrendered to it because I can't do anything anyways, right,
[20:37] Speaker 2: I'm too tired, you know, I can't defend myself. I'm
[20:41] Speaker 2: too tired. And whatever it wants can happen. So I
[20:45] Speaker 2: surrendered to whatever was going to happen. I took my time,
[20:50] Speaker 2: and I made it home, and I had a nice
[20:53] Speaker 2: spaghetti dinner and I passed out. Okay, thinking about that
[20:58] Speaker 2: sound okay, so I I I started researching again. There
[21:07] Speaker 2: were more and more scigns. I got interested, okay in this,
[21:10] Speaker 2: in this thing, I started following. I didn't really want
[21:14] Speaker 2: to hunt because I think that from what I heard
[21:18] Speaker 2: about Subsquatch, I wouldn't want to see it, you know,
[21:21] Speaker 2: like it would it would shock me. I think, you know,
[21:25] Speaker 2: why would I want to encounter with this huge as
[21:30] Speaker 2: I thought a monster at that time? And you know
[21:34] Speaker 2: what you know, I well, here's here's a detail that
[21:38] Speaker 2: I'd like to express, is that I learned from my
[21:41] Speaker 2: family and my wife that in a long term relationship,
[21:46] Speaker 2: that I learned the ways of the land of the
[21:48] Speaker 2: native people and correct protocol, like to prey, you know,
[21:52] Speaker 2: to respect the land, to respect planets, because everything's alive, right,
[21:57] Speaker 2: everything as a spirit. So I was that was ingrained
[22:01] Speaker 2: in me. And I also put down this is important, really,
[22:04] Speaker 2: I put down tobacco before I went up. I started
[22:07] Speaker 2: practicing this, say, but I used them as see, I
[22:10] Speaker 2: liked working out, so it was I used to it.
[22:12] Speaker 2: These climbs are following subsquatches more of a workout. Okay,
[22:17] Speaker 2: So what I do is if I, you know, I
[22:19] Speaker 2: start at the bottom, do I go really hard climbing
[22:22] Speaker 2: up up and get a really good workout and once
[22:26] Speaker 2: and then and then I come down and I do
[22:29] Speaker 2: my squatching. You know, if I saw something interesting, I
[22:32] Speaker 2: go into the in the bush proper and go look
[22:34] Speaker 2: at it, you know, and I'd squatch on the way down.
[22:37] Speaker 2: So I did this as a rule for myself because
[22:40] Speaker 2: I really liked working out hard. I still do that.
[22:43] Speaker 2: I still I work out harder now than I ever did.
[22:47] Speaker 2: And I'm I'm sixty seven, and I just go, like,
[22:50] Speaker 2: I'm really happy to do this right, and I'll go
[22:54] Speaker 2: today again. I've already been out. I'll go today again
[22:57] Speaker 2: because I love it. I just love it. So here
[23:01] Speaker 2: I started doing this, and then I started driving around.
[23:05] Speaker 2: I thought, we'll all drive around to other parts and
[23:08] Speaker 2: surround our little hamlet of merit in the mountains there,
[23:12] Speaker 2: you know, go to the North mountains or the South mountains,
[23:15] Speaker 2: go on logging roads, you know, go way up there
[23:18] Speaker 2: and drive around. And what I would do is park
[23:21] Speaker 2: the vehicle at some random logging road way up there,
[23:26] Speaker 2: you know, you know, so many thousand feet and get
[23:29] Speaker 2: out and I start, you know, doing my workout. You know,
[23:32] Speaker 2: I go up a hill, you know, go up the
[23:34] Speaker 2: logging room. And what happened to me was that I
[23:39] Speaker 2: found other groups. I have found other tracks, I found
[23:43] Speaker 2: other structures, and I ended up finding an urban group
[23:47] Speaker 2: because my son went to university in a in a
[23:51] Speaker 2: city half an hour away from us here, and it
[23:56] Speaker 2: turns out that there was an urban group there, and
[23:59] Speaker 2: I like, you know about that. They're an intercity group.
[24:02] Speaker 2: They actually lived in a Frisbee park or not, and
[24:06] Speaker 2: they lived in their structures were in wallows. And they
[24:10] Speaker 2: advanced through the course of two years to a children's
[24:13] Speaker 2: playground because they like to watch children, okay, and nobody
[24:18] Speaker 2: I think knew. And there's you know, a running track
[24:22] Speaker 2: around the whole perimeter of the park, and I go
[24:25] Speaker 2: there and take pictures and I have all these on
[24:28] Speaker 2: my along my YouTube site. On Subsquatch Interior VC. If
[24:33] Speaker 2: you want to look at the backstory, there's two hundred
[24:35] Speaker 2: videos about all this leading up to you know what
[24:39] Speaker 2: I would say was my first real shock and encounter.
[24:43] Speaker 2: I never during this whole time I found I was
[24:47] Speaker 2: with my home group, which is you know, in behind me,
[24:51] Speaker 2: and then other broupes like I call the North group
[24:54] Speaker 2: or the Lake group, right, I didn't, you know, I
[24:57] Speaker 2: just there are areas to me and groups of SUBSQUATD
[25:00] Speaker 2: that I saw, you know, tracks, and I heard I
[25:04] Speaker 2: got locals and you know, and things like that in
[25:06] Speaker 2: the structures. So I I had about five groups and
[25:11] Speaker 2: all that I go visit or or go out and
[25:14] Speaker 2: make YouTube videos or video you know what I found. Okay,
[25:19] Speaker 2: So I would hear noises, I would hear them, you know,
[25:22] Speaker 2: I would hear them breaking breaking trees like ta and
[25:27] Speaker 2: ravines and and you know what through the through the
[25:30] Speaker 2: years that I developed things. Now, mind you, this is
[25:35] Speaker 2: all about fear. Like to me, it was all about fear.
[25:37] Speaker 2: This whole journey was about fear. It still is about
[25:41] Speaker 2: fear for me a little bit. I think I'm climatized
[25:45] Speaker 2: and I'm I'm okay with certain things but I you know,
[25:49] Speaker 2: I found myself in places and ravines that you know,
[25:53] Speaker 2: you dare not go, you know, like you know, these
[25:56] Speaker 2: are the mountains and it's you know what there could
[25:59] Speaker 2: you know, cougar could top on your you know. But
[26:01] Speaker 2: I learned to be aware. I learned to listen, you know.
[26:05] Speaker 2: I learned to go slow. I learned to pace myself.
[26:07] Speaker 2: I learned to you know, take you know, and take
[26:10] Speaker 2: some steps and then look around you And I knew
[26:13] Speaker 2: about the wind. I learned these things through time. And
[26:17] Speaker 2: I went on like this for two years. I still
[26:22] Speaker 2: was skeptical, although two years of research to these city
[26:27] Speaker 2: is you know what, I was still skeptical because I
[26:30] Speaker 2: really really didn't have an experience. I had tracks, I
[26:33] Speaker 2: had all this evidence. It didn't matter, right, I didn't
[26:37] Speaker 2: really have an encounter until the North Group, Okay, until
[26:42] Speaker 2: one day. It was a couple of years into this,
[26:46] Speaker 2: so it was a labor day weekend. I remember it
[26:49] Speaker 2: was ten thirty in the morning, Like I know it
[26:52] Speaker 2: to detail because I'll never forget it. What happened to me,
[26:55] Speaker 2: and it brought the subsquatch from skepticism you know, on
[27:00] Speaker 2: tracks and all that into reality for me and It
[27:03] Speaker 2: changed the course of my life right there. And then
[27:06] Speaker 2: that day, that morning, so I was on another logging
[27:09] Speaker 2: road and I left the car, like you know, down
[27:11] Speaker 2: this logging road, and I thought, you know what. In
[27:15] Speaker 2: that morning, I found this beautiful cheapee structure. I was
[27:18] Speaker 2: filming that and I walked across the logging road. I
[27:22] Speaker 2: left my car was about a good distance away down
[27:25] Speaker 2: down the logging road and I crossed the road and
[27:28] Speaker 2: I found this beautiful track, like it was really deep end,
[27:31] Speaker 2: It's quite a large sasquatch track, really fresh, okay. And
[27:37] Speaker 2: I took a recording of it, and I have that
[27:40] Speaker 2: on my YouTube. And you know, I walked a few
[27:45] Speaker 2: few paces from that track on down the logging road
[27:50] Speaker 2: and I thought I saw something on my left side.
[27:53] Speaker 2: I thought I saw another little structure. So I went in.
[27:56] Speaker 2: It was about thirty yards into the bush. Okay. Now
[28:00] Speaker 2: the bush isn't too thick, you can see through the trees.
[28:03] Speaker 2: It's it's more dense up there up at high altitude.
[28:07] Speaker 2: I was in a random area around the logging road,
[28:09] Speaker 2: very high up by myself, and I walked in, and
[28:13] Speaker 2: you know what, I thought, I saw the structure, and
[28:15] Speaker 2: I walked right up to it, and it wasn't there. Yeah, okay,
[28:20] Speaker 2: it's not here, right. So I'm looking around, you know,
[28:23] Speaker 2: don't getting into things you don't look at looking at
[28:27] Speaker 2: you know, for tracks. And I'm in there, and you
[28:30] Speaker 2: know what, this thing falls out of the sky. I
[28:36] Speaker 2: thought it was like a pine cone. But the trees
[28:40] Speaker 2: that I was around were small pines, okay, like you know,
[28:43] Speaker 2: my sligne right, and I could see ahead for about
[28:48] Speaker 2: my I think a good thirty yards, you know, through
[28:50] Speaker 2: the trees, and you know what, another one fell that
[28:54] Speaker 2: I thought. I looked up at the sky and you
[28:57] Speaker 2: know something you know, coming at me right in the
[29:01] Speaker 2: yard in front of me. This little pebble bounces off.
[29:06] Speaker 2: Then you know I'm in the way. You know, where
[29:07] Speaker 2: are these pills coming from? Bounces off our yard in
[29:10] Speaker 2: front of me. Fifteen seconds go by, a third pebble bounces,
[29:17] Speaker 2: you know, right the yard in front of me, and
[29:19] Speaker 2: I'm picking these up, looking at them, thinking, I'm starting
[29:23] Speaker 2: to think, oh no, a right, you know, like there's
[29:28] Speaker 2: something you know and you can't you're really the trajectory
[29:31] Speaker 2: of this pebble. You know, you'd have to see the
[29:33] Speaker 2: person throwing it. I'm looking and there's nothing, you know, right,
[29:38] Speaker 2: any there should be somebody out there throwing pebbles at me,
[29:42] Speaker 2: and it wasn't. A fourth one comes in and I start.
[29:45] Speaker 2: After that fourth one, I started thinking, and I knew
[29:49] Speaker 2: it was a squatch and you know what, I could
[29:53] Speaker 2: hear it breaking someone, but I couldn't see it. You see,
[29:58] Speaker 2: it was invisible. Yeah, So I start though I brave
[30:05] Speaker 2: at this point, but I don't think I was. But
[30:08] Speaker 2: I started to crouch down the grown ground and I
[30:11] Speaker 2: covered my forehead and my eyes and I started crouching
[30:15] Speaker 2: down to the ground on my side, and I started
[30:18] Speaker 2: speaking to it and I said, you know, I know
[30:21] Speaker 2: who you are, and I I didn't introduce myself. Hi
[30:25] Speaker 2: am again, I'm a friendly person. Has I point town
[30:29] Speaker 2: covering my eyes and I said, could you please try
[30:32] Speaker 2: not to hit me in the eyes or on the
[30:34] Speaker 2: forehead because that would really hurt. And I said, I
[30:36] Speaker 2: mean my eyes. I started bigly out nervousness, but it
[30:42] Speaker 2: was getting serious, right, and the fifth people comes at me,
[30:47] Speaker 2: you know the intervals, about fifteen seconds, right, another one
[30:51] Speaker 2: pops off the ground right and I'm on the ground
[30:53] Speaker 2: now covering my eyes, you know, talking to this thing,
[30:57] Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, you know, I'm starting to think, you know,
[31:00] Speaker 2: I'm buying myself up there, way up there, and you know,
[31:03] Speaker 2: and of course no wounds around, and there's an invisible
[31:07] Speaker 2: thing throwing pebbles at me and I can't see it.
[31:12] Speaker 2: So I started, you know, really losing it in my mind.
[31:15] Speaker 2: You know, I started really worrying, you know, what ifs
[31:17] Speaker 2: and all that, and then pebbles kept on coming in
[31:21] Speaker 2: and the pop mouth and I kind of uh picking
[31:25] Speaker 2: it tim. I started shaking, right because I was really
[31:28] Speaker 2: starting to get really nervous and what's going to happen here?
[31:32] Speaker 2: So I knew it was a squatch And one one
[31:35] Speaker 2: pep one pebble comes in really hard and it bounces
[31:40] Speaker 2: off the little pine right next to my head and
[31:43] Speaker 2: it shoots off right right, and you know, once that happened,
[31:47] Speaker 2: I was gone, Like I ran to the logging room,
[31:51] Speaker 2: but I didn't want to leave, Okay, I ran. I was,
[31:54] Speaker 2: you know, shaking and all that. I turned around and
[31:57] Speaker 2: I listened and then I heard this big, huge snap right,
[32:01] Speaker 2: a snap a big tree, right, I said, And I
[32:06] Speaker 2: still can't see it, Like, I shood, where were the
[32:08] Speaker 2: sounds coming from? I'm looking for the logging room. So
[32:11] Speaker 2: I'm shaking and I get my cell phone and I said,
[32:14] Speaker 2: and I'm trying to try to get a sound recording.
[32:18] Speaker 2: Okay this you know, and of course you're right, it
[32:21] Speaker 2: dies right, there's none instead, you know. So I'm shaking,
[32:26] Speaker 2: and you know what, I got out of there because
[32:30] Speaker 2: it was too much for me. But the fantastic thing
[32:33] Speaker 2: was that I knew that this was a reality now
[32:37] Speaker 2: and from that day on, I was a believer and
[32:41] Speaker 2: I thought Subsquatch is real. And I told my family, says,
[32:45] Speaker 2: this thing is real, this thing is real. And I
[32:50] Speaker 2: couldn't get over it. Over that, but these things, you know,
[32:53] Speaker 2: they can't lock out of fable onto reality, and you know,
[32:58] Speaker 2: how can that be? And we're well, was that it
[33:00] Speaker 2: was invisible. It was invisible the whole time. I don't now,
[33:05] Speaker 2: but it was that that changed things for me, and
[33:08] Speaker 2: that brought me right into Subsquatch, you know, you know, researching,
[33:13] Speaker 2: and you know, it brought me right into them, right,
[33:16] Speaker 2: you know. I had an ex encounter. The week after that.
[33:19] Speaker 2: I took my wife and and we we bought some
[33:21] Speaker 2: really like some roadside apples which were really expensive, and
[33:25] Speaker 2: we went back to that area, and I showed her
[33:28] Speaker 2: and we gifted them these apples, Okay, big beautiful apples.
[33:32] Speaker 2: It cost a lot, right, and that was it. And
[33:35] Speaker 2: you know what I you know, I never went back
[33:37] Speaker 2: up there. Oh, just went the other way, right, life
[33:40] Speaker 2: went and subsquatch went. So that was that changed things.
[33:45] Speaker 2: And then I went. You know, my home group was
[33:47] Speaker 2: the closest group. I was always climbing, you see, to
[33:50] Speaker 2: get to these groups, you know, my workouts and climbing
[33:53] Speaker 2: long distances, and you know, going up to feed them
[33:56] Speaker 2: and your journeys and really you know a lot of
[33:59] Speaker 2: big workouts, right, And I get back exhausted and I
[34:02] Speaker 2: eat a lot and pass out. But what happened was
[34:06] Speaker 2: that about six months after that incident, the people encounter
[34:14] Speaker 2: I had, I noticed that there were structures like not
[34:20] Speaker 2: one hundred yards up in the pines out in my
[34:23] Speaker 2: back door, because my back door where I was living
[34:26] Speaker 2: at the time was Jason right on the mountain, you know,
[34:29] Speaker 2: to start the mountain, you know, so I could just
[34:33] Speaker 2: go out and go up right, But you know what,
[34:36] Speaker 2: I noticed structures coming down, right. So I'd be going
[34:39] Speaker 2: up the mountain still and watching all the signs of
[34:42] Speaker 2: the subsquatching tracks coming down closer and closer. And I
[34:46] Speaker 2: lived right near the college that I attended at the time,
[34:49] Speaker 2: so it was an indigenous college. And now now go figure,
[34:53] Speaker 2: there's a playground there, you know, there for children, you know,
[34:57] Speaker 2: the students, right, go figure. But you know what, they
[35:00] Speaker 2: set up an area not even so about one hundred
[35:05] Speaker 2: and fifty yards outside my door, but up in the pines,
[35:08] Speaker 2: you know, up on the mountain of Bait and I could,
[35:12] Speaker 2: you know, almost see it from my door. And so
[35:15] Speaker 2: they started they went into this grobe, this growth, I guess,
[35:21] Speaker 2: you know, a little area of pines that were you know,
[35:24] Speaker 2: in a circle pattern. I guess it's about fifty yards
[35:27] Speaker 2: in diameter. So this is a group of pines, right,
[35:31] Speaker 2: you know, like I really nestled in, really shady, really nice.
[35:34] Speaker 2: And as soon as he's the logs, like they cut
[35:38] Speaker 2: some logs down to the forestry. They were top forestry
[35:40] Speaker 2: up at this college, and you know what they did
[35:43] Speaker 2: rarely go in there. But you know what, there was
[35:45] Speaker 2: a structure going up. You know, I keeps structure going
[35:49] Speaker 2: up and I couldn't believe it, you know, and this
[35:52] Speaker 2: is like a path went through this this area. You know,
[35:55] Speaker 2: into the suburbs, like all new suburbs, right, and they
[35:59] Speaker 2: started in building the structure in day by day you
[36:02] Speaker 2: would blow up. And then then they would start bringing
[36:04] Speaker 2: in big big logs into this area, right and then
[36:09] Speaker 2: manipulating them like pulling around see each day. And then
[36:12] Speaker 2: then there'd be more signs like glyphs of sticks, you know,
[36:16] Speaker 2: in patterns. The logs would be moved around into triangles
[36:21] Speaker 2: and there would be structures and ground structures happening, and
[36:25] Speaker 2: you know, things were happening. Then the rocks started moving
[36:27] Speaker 2: in by you know, they just started appearing and four stones,
[36:32] Speaker 2: which I got to know things after a while. They
[36:36] Speaker 2: taught me many lessons and sometimes it took years to
[36:40] Speaker 2: have these lessons, but I'm learning. And I found out
[36:44] Speaker 2: that what the rocks were for. The rocks were four
[36:46] Speaker 2: or four in the family, and they had a new
[36:48] Speaker 2: more in one year because I saw their tracks you
[36:51] Speaker 2: see in this area. So they were coming down. I
[36:53] Speaker 2: was going up looking for them and coming down to me.
[36:57] Speaker 2: You know, they say, set up right out out there,
[37:00] Speaker 2: like you know, and they get and they started gifting me.
[37:03] Speaker 2: They wolf. Now what's chillier about this little spot? Is
[37:07] Speaker 2: this tall patch of wheat grass, this weak grass, I
[37:11] Speaker 2: don't know. It doesn't grow anywhere around here, but it
[37:15] Speaker 2: just grows there in the middle of these plants in
[37:18] Speaker 2: these area, right, And they started weaving like they make weaving,
[37:22] Speaker 2: and they left me bracelets. They will bracelets for me there.
[37:26] Speaker 2: I've got photographs of this. I've had so many magical
[37:32] Speaker 2: things happened to me up in that area. When they
[37:35] Speaker 2: came down, they would you see, I was pretty pretty
[37:39] Speaker 2: frightened still, you know, because they would announce themselves in
[37:43] Speaker 2: the area. When I go there, they were invisible. Oh yeah,
[37:48] Speaker 2: I couldn't see them. Yet I hear them, Okay, so
[37:50] Speaker 2: I get that. I mean, you know, I go up
[37:53] Speaker 2: there and i'd hear I hear this. I'd hear a
[37:57] Speaker 2: clearing of the throat, but it's really really loud, and
[37:59] Speaker 2: it's right next to me, Like I think, what right,
[38:07] Speaker 2: you know, and it's them right now or they would cough,
[38:11] Speaker 2: you know, or cough or sneeze right, thank you, this
[38:16] Speaker 2: all the time, and I just you know, jerk around,
[38:19] Speaker 2: and you know they you know, they started, you know this,
[38:22] Speaker 2: magical things started happening. So one time I was on
[38:28] Speaker 2: a hike. I was going up I guess to take
[38:32] Speaker 2: things out of the gifting lock because they weren't using it.
[38:34] Speaker 2: I think I was going up there one more time
[38:36] Speaker 2: because I still wanted the workouts. And then you know,
[38:39] Speaker 2: I wasn't getting my workouts. They were, you know, coming
[38:42] Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty yards, you know, towards me. I'm
[38:45] Speaker 2: not getting my workout. So I started still wanted to climb,
[38:49] Speaker 2: So I went up one time, and I'll have you
[38:52] Speaker 2: I had a happening. I had some electronic stuff in
[38:59] Speaker 2: my backpack. I had my cell phone, I had some
[39:03] Speaker 2: I smoke at the time. I had some cigarettes, I
[39:06] Speaker 2: had a lighter, I had some electronics. I had my
[39:08] Speaker 2: electronic keys to the building. I you know, speaker cords,
[39:13] Speaker 2: you know, oh, wires and stuff like this. And I
[39:18] Speaker 2: was up to the gifting loss and three quarters up
[39:21] Speaker 2: my usual two tracks going up the mountain. And I
[39:27] Speaker 2: got to about halfway up, and I'm walking up I
[39:30] Speaker 2: usually do, and you know what, all of a sudden,
[39:35] Speaker 2: I was at the turnaround, and the turnaround is where
[39:37] Speaker 2: I stopped. It was three quarters of the way and
[39:39] Speaker 2: that's where I had my gifting lock. So I turned around.
[39:45] Speaker 2: I was up there already, but I don't remember how
[39:47] Speaker 2: I got there. I was walking climbing, and I'm up
[39:53] Speaker 2: there and I and I noticed my backpack slight. I
[39:57] Speaker 2: all my stuff was in a little backpack had and
[40:00] Speaker 2: a zipper was open. It was all gone. And you
[40:03] Speaker 2: know what, I would have heard that calling out, you know,
[40:05] Speaker 2: for sure on the track. So I was donne out.
[40:10] Speaker 2: All myself was gone, All of it was gone, cigarette
[40:13] Speaker 2: lighter chords, right, my cell phone was gone, you know.
[40:18] Speaker 2: I oh, you know, wow, I didn't know what happened.
[40:22] Speaker 2: I now, I know, I understand that I was. I
[40:26] Speaker 2: had some missing time. They took them, right, like that
[40:29] Speaker 2: backpack up there, okay, and I took them and I
[40:34] Speaker 2: know who it was. And you know, and you start
[40:37] Speaker 2: doubting yourself again. Even though the stuff is happening, you're
[40:41] Speaker 2: still shaking your head. You know, you think you're losing
[40:43] Speaker 2: your mind, you know a little, you know, you know,
[40:46] Speaker 2: maybe you're far too into a subsquatch research, you know,
[40:49] Speaker 2: like you know, you're really really into it, and you're
[40:53] Speaker 2: starting to lose society or your mind or you know,
[40:57] Speaker 2: practical thinking habits, you know, actually living with others. But
[41:04] Speaker 2: because yeah, that happened, and I thought, well it wasn't
[41:07] Speaker 2: about the cell phones. I told my wife what happened,
[41:09] Speaker 2: and she said, yeah, it's probably yes, squich took it.
[41:14] Speaker 2: I took it lightly, and I said, okay, yeah, well
[41:18] Speaker 2: to get another one. But I went running. I remember,
[41:21] Speaker 2: so I thought, well, I mean, you know, I'm going
[41:22] Speaker 2: to look on the back track exact same place I
[41:26] Speaker 2: started that hiking, because I had a starting point on
[41:28] Speaker 2: this one, so I remembered it. And I was in
[41:31] Speaker 2: these pines like off the trail down low and I
[41:34] Speaker 2: went there three times. I went three times, three separate
[41:37] Speaker 2: days of the week. That week after that, after after
[41:42] Speaker 2: this incident. It happened on a Sunday, U and I
[41:45] Speaker 2: went up and backtracked and I looked everywhere, but I
[41:48] Speaker 2: went all the way up and looked for my this,
[41:52] Speaker 2: my phone and all the you know, the chords and
[41:54] Speaker 2: my stuff right and there was nothing there. Like from
[41:58] Speaker 2: start to finish. I went three times and I kind
[42:02] Speaker 2: of gave up. And I started to rain that week
[42:05] Speaker 2: and week and yeah, things got wet, and I thought, well,
[42:09] Speaker 2: you know, a week later, it's Sunday again. You know,
[42:11] Speaker 2: I start out and I'm going to go out, you know,
[42:13] Speaker 2: I'm going to go look one last time, you know,
[42:16] Speaker 2: for this you know this stuff, you know, because I
[42:18] Speaker 2: couldn't believe, you know, it just disappeared. And you know what,
[42:23] Speaker 2: I went to the same place that I started out
[42:25] Speaker 2: with in Lo and behold, I saw my lighter or
[42:31] Speaker 2: lighter right, and I thought, it looks like mine. Yard
[42:35] Speaker 2: ahead of that, I see one of the courts laying there.
[42:39] Speaker 2: A yard ahead of that, I see my my keys
[42:44] Speaker 2: to my my the building. You know, they electronic keys,
[42:48] Speaker 2: so each one I walked up to. Then I saw
[42:51] Speaker 2: the audio court and it was on because a yard
[42:54] Speaker 2: further I look up and there's another piece, you know,
[42:57] Speaker 2: so slowly these pieces are coming back. The audio cords, however,
[43:02] Speaker 2: were snapped. Okay, Now, if you've ever taken you try
[43:06] Speaker 2: to snap one of these, you know, like you know
[43:09] Speaker 2: an audio card, right, uh, you know copper and or plastic, right,
[43:14] Speaker 2: you can't. Yeah, it's harsh, right, But these were snapped,
[43:17] Speaker 2: you know, snapped into pieces, but yet broad back right
[43:22] Speaker 2: snapped right, So and then there was a stump, you know,
[43:25] Speaker 2: I cut stump and one of the other chords was
[43:28] Speaker 2: placed on top of that another yard up. So I'm
[43:31] Speaker 2: following these like you know a game. I look up
[43:33] Speaker 2: and there's another piece of my you know, a week
[43:36] Speaker 2: ago on Sunday. It's my my things are coming back
[43:39] Speaker 2: to me, right. But I was happy about the keys,
[43:43] Speaker 2: the entry keys, you know, and you know, didn't care
[43:45] Speaker 2: about the chords. But I was, you know, thinking the
[43:48] Speaker 2: cell phone, right, and and of course, you know, I'm
[43:51] Speaker 2: looking up and I locked up and against this pine
[43:55] Speaker 2: at the bottom of my cell phone was sitting there,
[43:57] Speaker 2: face up against the pine tree, a large full pine
[44:01] Speaker 2: at the bottom of it. And I picked it up
[44:02] Speaker 2: and called my wife and said I found my phone. Right,
[44:07] Speaker 2: it was cute, Yeah, she was okay, she goes, there
[44:10] Speaker 2: was such much you see. Yeah, yeah, it was right.
[44:15] Speaker 2: And you know what, I right there, I was holding
[44:18] Speaker 2: onto the pine and I looked up. I looked up
[44:21] Speaker 2: this pine where the cellphone was under, and you know what,
[44:25] Speaker 2: I kind of shocked and kind of had the shires
[44:28] Speaker 2: this dearly suspended. It was. I had some meat on it.
[44:33] Speaker 2: I think, I think it's still pretty well boned. And
[44:36] Speaker 2: it was in a V shaped hung hung on a
[44:38] Speaker 2: little branch about fifteen feet above this. Okay, so be
[44:45] Speaker 2: I kind of you know, shuttered and I knew who
[44:47] Speaker 2: was fifteen feet high pine, you know, and oh, I
[44:52] Speaker 2: definitely know this is the forest. People you know are
[44:56] Speaker 2: saying something, so right there, I asked them. I asked
[45:00] Speaker 2: them out loud. I said, I see that you don't
[45:02] Speaker 2: want me recording. And you know your torch, the you know,
[45:06] Speaker 2: the cord, the audio cord, you do you know they
[45:08] Speaker 2: U see electronics, you know, but yet you know you
[45:12] Speaker 2: you left the cell phone intact, right And I said,
[45:15] Speaker 2: you know, this means to me that you don't mind
[45:17] Speaker 2: me taking pictures of your stuff? Here, your things? You
[45:20] Speaker 2: know what you make, you know what you do? I said,
[45:22] Speaker 2: you don't what I said out loud to them, you know,
[45:26] Speaker 2: I said, you know, you know what I like you
[45:30] Speaker 2: to understand something. I'm really you know, I really don't
[45:33] Speaker 2: want to see you. I think I got a good
[45:35] Speaker 2: idea what you look like, how big you are, what
[45:38] Speaker 2: you know, how you can scare it and you know
[45:41] Speaker 2: people you know, and I really don't want to experience that.
[45:45] Speaker 2: I said, could you basically ask them, could you please,
[45:48] Speaker 2: you know, not show yourselves to me? And they honored
[45:51] Speaker 2: that through these years. Okay, but they are starting to
[45:54] Speaker 2: now you know, I'm okay now, but at the time,
[45:57] Speaker 2: you know, I said frankly, right there, and I said,
[45:59] Speaker 2: I would go into shop. You know you're too big,
[46:01] Speaker 2: you're too powerful. I always get these energy things from you.
[46:04] Speaker 2: You know you're shocking. You know what you do? You
[46:07] Speaker 2: know you leave the older behind, you know, like they said,
[46:10] Speaker 2: really stuff was happening, right, and I think you're too powerful, right,
[46:14] Speaker 2: and I don't want to be scared, like I don't
[46:16] Speaker 2: want to, you know, heart attacker, I don't want to
[46:18] Speaker 2: go into shock, right, so right there, and then I
[46:23] Speaker 2: I guess I got a mine speak sort of that
[46:25] Speaker 2: we made an agreement, say yeah, yeah, okay, like they
[46:30] Speaker 2: were guiding me to think this, right, and they said
[46:33] Speaker 2: pictures said cool. I said, listen, I only I love
[46:36] Speaker 2: what you're making, you know, I love those structures. This
[46:38] Speaker 2: is what's cool to me. I you know, I know
[46:41] Speaker 2: what you look like. I see your tracks. You're huge,
[46:43] Speaker 2: you know, like I don't you know you're hairy, you
[46:47] Speaker 2: you know, like you know you have different colors, right,
[46:50] Speaker 2: And you know, I have said I've seen three since
[46:54] Speaker 2: you know, they slipped up some times and yeah I've
[46:57] Speaker 2: see them. But now now they're coming to me. You know,
[47:00] Speaker 2: there comes the window here these days. But yeah, that
[47:05] Speaker 2: was quite a thing. Okay, that was quick experience. And
[47:10] Speaker 2: another another magical thing was that while I had the
[47:14] Speaker 2: gifting log, I put in a huge marble. I heard
[47:18] Speaker 2: they like marbles, you know, they take marbles and play
[47:21] Speaker 2: with us. But I had this huge glass marble. It
[47:24] Speaker 2: was forest green in color, and I put that and
[47:26] Speaker 2: I shoved it into the gifting log so that any
[47:29] Speaker 2: kind of raven or any kind of squirrel wouldn't take
[47:32] Speaker 2: that that marble. Only only a person with hands or
[47:39] Speaker 2: somebody could manipulate it out of that log. So I
[47:41] Speaker 2: kind of wedged it in there. And I'll tell you
[47:44] Speaker 2: something that that that marble I left in there for
[47:48] Speaker 2: months and I go back to the gifting lock, and
[47:50] Speaker 2: and it's still be there right feed, you know, and
[47:53] Speaker 2: the food would be gone or you know, nothing much happened.
[47:56] Speaker 2: It was winter at that time, and you know what
[47:59] Speaker 2: about a month so later, and that that marble disappeared
[48:03] Speaker 2: one day and and it was gone for a month,
[48:08] Speaker 2: and it returned a month later. So the course of
[48:10] Speaker 2: that winter it had disappeared, it was taken three times
[48:15] Speaker 2: brought back. And it took all seven months for this,
[48:18] Speaker 2: so three instances. It was gone for months and I
[48:23] Speaker 2: came back to the spot and I left it there
[48:26] Speaker 2: right and see if it would happen again. It happened
[48:28] Speaker 2: three times and so through and up to spring. Okay,
[48:32] Speaker 2: it was gone to spring. And one day it returned
[48:35] Speaker 2: and that marble. I have the videos of this as well.
[48:38] Speaker 2: That marble when it came back, it had been altered. Okay,
[48:44] Speaker 2: it was no longer the same large marble, you know
[48:48] Speaker 2: glass marble. It was. It had like a heat. It
[48:52] Speaker 2: had scorches inside it like it was, and it was
[48:56] Speaker 2: it had fissures in it, like the glass was actually
[49:01] Speaker 2: melted over and it had like scorch marks. It was
[49:06] Speaker 2: being helped like an put under intense heat, you know,
[49:09] Speaker 2: melt and melted and it was compressed impact. Right, it
[49:13] Speaker 2: had changed that much, right, and you know what it
[49:18] Speaker 2: was put through something. I thought, Wow, the Sasquatch held that.
[49:21] Speaker 2: You know, they put it through something, some kind of heat,
[49:23] Speaker 2: you know. They it looked like it wouldn't out of
[49:26] Speaker 2: space and you know when you know, through the atmosphere
[49:29] Speaker 2: and it fell that down and melted. You know, that's
[49:32] Speaker 2: how it had changed. And uh, you know it was
[49:35] Speaker 2: really weird. So I kept it, you know, and that
[49:40] Speaker 2: was that, but it was that's some of them, just
[49:43] Speaker 2: a little bit of the supernatural stuff that was happening then.
[49:47] Speaker 2: And uh on time went that the area now had
[49:52] Speaker 2: become the they had become my friends. You know, we
[49:56] Speaker 2: were having language through sticks, stick glyphs. They're like an
[50:01] Speaker 2: alphabet or a ground ground language, I guess you would say.
[50:07] Speaker 2: And it got to a point that we were communicating
[50:12] Speaker 2: like they were teaching me something. You know, you were
[50:14] Speaker 2: teaching me, teaching me about something. But I didn't know
[50:19] Speaker 2: it until a porthole opened up and I went through
[50:23] Speaker 2: that experience all through, uh they through beginning to end,
[50:28] Speaker 2: and you know, three years they had been teaching me
[50:32] Speaker 2: this because I recognized the locks. They had these locks
[50:35] Speaker 2: structures laid out on the landscape, you know, all and
[50:40] Speaker 2: random places, you know, and I always wondered what they
[50:44] Speaker 2: were for, right, I didn't understand them because it seems
[50:48] Speaker 2: like they were doing layouts for homes, like log homes
[50:51] Speaker 2: or something. But now I know that they were. They
[50:54] Speaker 2: were what a porthole looks like. And it is actually here.
[50:58] Speaker 2: The tree port as I understand, are in a US
[51:02] Speaker 2: square shape. This is square, so all the rounds of
[51:06] Speaker 2: nature and the rounds of subsquatch in the circle circles okay,
[51:11] Speaker 2: in life and in nature it was shifting to squares okay.
[51:16] Speaker 2: And that was the beginning of the first portal. Uh
[51:20] Speaker 2: they opened up. Currently, I'm at a third portal and
[51:26] Speaker 2: there's been another cotton portal. They actually followed me through
[51:31] Speaker 2: my homework. There's two cotton trees and they made one
[51:37] Speaker 2: there portholes site. I can't it's not enough. That's a
[51:42] Speaker 2: really a whole other story and a whole it's connected subject.
[51:48] Speaker 2: But VIC, I think I'm going to stop there because
[51:52] Speaker 2: my horse, the lace is going on a bit horse
[51:54] Speaker 2: and I'd like to stop it. I have I have
[51:57] Speaker 2: many many more experiences magical and then I'd like to share,
[52:02] Speaker 2: but I need to stop it there. I think they'll
[52:06] Speaker 2: change up to another different type of story. It's just
[52:10] Speaker 2: been an amazing ride. They're beautiful people, and I have
[52:15] Speaker 2: to stop it there for now.
[52:19] Speaker 1: Wow again, it sure does sound like it's been a
[52:21] Speaker 1: wild ride for you. I can only imagine the other
[52:23] Speaker 1: experiences you have to share. Well, yeah, I'll just get
[52:26] Speaker 1: with you and when we can schedule to have you
[52:29] Speaker 1: come back for a part two, we'll just do that
[52:32] Speaker 1: and we'll take it from there. But having said that,
[52:34] Speaker 1: thanks again so much for coming on and sharing all
[52:37] Speaker 1: that you have so far. I really appreciate it.
[52:40] Speaker 2: You're very welcoming on son honor to be here. Vick.
[52:43] Speaker 2: Can you thank you well.
[52:45] Speaker 1: You know you're welcome. Thanks again so much for your
[52:48] Speaker 1: time again and have a great night. That's it for
[52:58] Speaker 1: another episode of Bigfoot, I would radio with Vic Kundiff.
[53:02] Speaker 1: If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would like to
[53:05] Speaker 1: be a guest on the show, please go to Bigfoot
[53:07] Speaker 1: eyewitness dot com and submit a report.
[53:10] Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you.
[53:12] Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, have a great night.

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