# If You Run Into One, It Will Change Your Life Forever! - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 468

An episode of [Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1176349237), 26 Apr 2025, 1 h 03 min.

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Tonight’s guest, Brian Cropper, is a Bigfoot investigator who is based in Loveland, Colorado. He’s been investigating the Sasquatch phenomenon since 2018. Even though Brian has been investigating paranormal phenomena for the past 25 years, he used to totally dismiss the possibility that Sasquatch were extant. That all changed Monday, August 3rd, of 2018, just outside of Bailey, Colorado, however. You see, Brian was coming back from a paranormal investigation he’d been doing in Cripple Creek, Colorado when he had saw a 9-foot-tall Sasquatch. That was an experience that had wide-sweeping effects on his life that he never would have expected, 2 minutes before he had that sighting. We hope you’ll tune into tonight’s show and listen to Brian share the details of that experience and several other Sasquatch-related experiences. To visit Brian's Facebook group, please go to... https://www.facebook.com/share/g/16UcaxRyuM/ If you’ve had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 3 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 3 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening!

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: If you've had a bigfoot siding, I would like to
[0:02] Speaker 1: be a guest. Please go to bigfootewitness dot com and
[0:06] Speaker 1: let me know.
[0:08] Speaker 2: I'm Brian Cropper. I'm from Loveland, Colorado, and i am
[0:13] Speaker 2: a bigfoot investigator and also a paranormal investigator. I've been
[0:20] Speaker 2: doing the paranormal for over twenty five years with my wife,
[0:26] Speaker 2: and also I've been doing bigfoot research since twenty eighteen
[0:32] Speaker 2: and going into that. My experience started Monday, August third,
[0:41] Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. I was coming back from a paranormal investigation
[0:47] Speaker 2: from Cripple Creek, Colorado, and ironically, my Google Maps had
[0:55] Speaker 2: me going a different way. Well ironically, I was outside
[1:02] Speaker 2: the town of Bailey, Colorado, at Monday, August third, round
[1:10] Speaker 2: seven thirty in the morning, and I was traveling outside
[1:15] Speaker 2: on the highway. There was a car probably two miles
[1:19] Speaker 2: ahead of me, and it was a warm, nice sunny
[1:24] Speaker 2: right day, and I was you know, I had a
[1:29] Speaker 2: Mitchpishi Eclipse car at the time, and I was traveling
[1:36] Speaker 2: and as I was traveling, this Wendy experience happened. And
[1:42] Speaker 2: I was coming down, traveling beside the river which is
[1:49] Speaker 2: outside of Bailey, and as I was traveling, I noticed
[1:55] Speaker 2: a black figure coming up from the river and as
[2:02] Speaker 2: he was approaching my car, he came at an angle
[2:07] Speaker 2: probably about maybe sixty probably a sixty angle percent angle
[2:16] Speaker 2: at me, and he came up from the river. He
[2:20] Speaker 2: climbed the rocks and then he was kind of on
[2:23] Speaker 2: all fours as there was climbing up. And as he
[2:27] Speaker 2: got up to the highway, he got up on all
[2:32] Speaker 2: up on his two feet, and he came out an
[2:36] Speaker 2: angle and he went through some brush and he looked
[2:40] Speaker 2: right at me, and I can describe him as nine
[2:45] Speaker 2: feet tall, jet black hair, with very distinct features. His
[2:54] Speaker 2: face really couldn't see the eyes, the nose was kind
[2:58] Speaker 2: of pushed in, the mouth was kind of covered with
[3:02] Speaker 2: black hair. And he was around seventy five feet from
[3:08] Speaker 2: my car. And as he came up, he went across
[3:14] Speaker 2: the highway in front of my car. Took four lunging
[3:20] Speaker 2: footsteps across the highway, very fast lunging footsteps, and he
[3:28] Speaker 2: did have the classic arm swing. And so I was like,
[3:35] Speaker 2: I can't believe what I'm seeing. Because I was a skeptic,
[3:38] Speaker 2: I didn't really get into the bigfoot phenomenon. And as
[3:46] Speaker 2: I saw him going across the highway. He slowed up
[3:51] Speaker 2: and he kind of hit a little mud, little dirt
[3:55] Speaker 2: as the woods kind of slope up from the highway,
[4:00] Speaker 2: so he stopped, and as he did, I slowed my
[4:06] Speaker 2: car down to probably two miles per hour, and I
[4:10] Speaker 2: looked through my door window and saw the entire body
[4:18] Speaker 2: from head to toe. He had a plastic cone head
[4:26] Speaker 2: own shape. Head. The back was massive, I mean huge.
[4:33] Speaker 2: I mean his legs were huge. Couldn't really get a
[4:38] Speaker 2: look at the feet, but his arms were just incredibly
[4:45] Speaker 2: wide and they were down. And then I went on
[4:52] Speaker 2: and I couldn't believe what was see. So, having gathered
[4:58] Speaker 2: all the emotions, probably about twe thirteen emotions going all
[5:01] Speaker 2: at one time, I got back home to Loveland and
[5:09] Speaker 2: told everybody and couldn't believe what I saw. So I
[5:18] Speaker 2: immediately googled Bailey, Colorado, and I came upon the Sasquatch Outpost,
[5:26] Speaker 2: a museum in Bailey, which is an incredible museum. So
[5:32] Speaker 2: I called and ironically I talked to the owner, Jim Myers,
[5:38] Speaker 2: and I told him what I saw, and he was
[5:42] Speaker 2: just ecstatic. He's like, where did you see this? What happened? Everything?
[5:47] Speaker 2: And I told him exactly where I had the sighting.
[5:53] Speaker 2: So I got done with that, and I found out
[6:01] Speaker 2: for googling that the Bailey area is a hotspot for sightings.
[6:09] Speaker 2: And Jim is like, well, you're not the first one
[6:11] Speaker 2: to have an encounter out here. I'm like, that's incredible,
[6:15] Speaker 2: but he goes, yours is one of the very unusual ones,
[6:20] Speaker 2: considering that it was first in the day and was
[6:24] Speaker 2: out in the open, and you know, right in the
[6:29] Speaker 2: morning too, which is really unusual. And I asked him,
[6:34] Speaker 2: you know, what was he probably doing. He goes, well,
[6:38] Speaker 2: he's probably looking for fish possibly, and there's a ranch
[6:42] Speaker 2: nearby as well too, so he possibly could have been
[6:45] Speaker 2: staking out that ranch as well too. And I just
[6:50] Speaker 2: happened to be at the right place at the right
[6:52] Speaker 2: time when he came up from the river to get
[6:54] Speaker 2: back into the woods. So we went back up there
[7:02] Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen and went with Jim on an expedition
[7:10] Speaker 2: and we got to the spot, and in that spot
[7:18] Speaker 2: we saw a couple of footprints embedded in the sand,
[7:22] Speaker 2: and huge ones. So we measured them and they had
[7:28] Speaker 2: to be about probably fifteen sixteen inches long. So Jim's like, well,
[7:35] Speaker 2: I've got another hot spot we can go to because
[7:38] Speaker 2: there was another encounter two weeks after I had my encounter.
[7:42] Speaker 2: Two mother and daughter actually up in Kenosha Pass five
[7:46] Speaker 2: miles away, were chased by three of them and got
[7:49] Speaker 2: rock storn at them. So we went up there and
[7:55] Speaker 2: we found structures up there just during the day too,
[8:00] Speaker 2: And so Jim had some headphones that are amplified so
[8:06] Speaker 2: you can hear, and I put them on and we
[8:10] Speaker 2: did a call and all of a sudden we got
[8:13] Speaker 2: a whoop sound and a huge tree knock. So I
[8:19] Speaker 2: took some photos and brought them back home, developed them
[8:24] Speaker 2: on my computer, put them on Facebook. And a lady goes,
[8:30] Speaker 2: I see two of them watching you. I'm rink really
[8:34] Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, I can see him watching you. I
[8:38] Speaker 2: go how far she goes? Twenty feet thirty feet from
[8:42] Speaker 2: from you. Guys like that's incredible. So that started my
[8:53] Speaker 2: love for doing bigfoot investigations. So in the years to follow.
[9:01] Speaker 2: From where I live up here in Loveland, I am
[9:07] Speaker 2: between Loveland and Essa's Park, and there's two small towns
[9:11] Speaker 2: between us and Esthus and so one of them is
[9:16] Speaker 2: called Glen Haven. It's a small little town, few little
[9:19] Speaker 2: structures beautiful trails up there. So I went up one
[9:26] Speaker 2: day by myself to do an expedition and found structures,
[9:32] Speaker 2: street structures, very unusual ones, and so did a little
[9:39] Speaker 2: hike sunny day. Little Wendy did a sound and all
[9:46] Speaker 2: of a sudden I hear just loud menacing grawl. Had
[9:55] Speaker 2: to be maybe fifteen to twenty feet away from me.
[10:00] Speaker 2: I go, well, I'm alone today. I'm not going to
[10:03] Speaker 2: push it any further, got back down on the trail,
[10:09] Speaker 2: reported it on Facebook. And we have actually a shop
[10:16] Speaker 2: between Loveland and Glen Haven called the Damn Store. It's
[10:22] Speaker 2: a beautiful store and they sell bigfoot merchandise. So I
[10:26] Speaker 2: went down there and I talked to him. They're like,
[10:28] Speaker 2: that's incredible. I go, yeah. So I talked just recently
[10:37] Speaker 2: to a gentleman who works in the forest industry and
[10:40] Speaker 2: I mentioned where it was and he goes, I've been
[10:44] Speaker 2: up there as well. He goes, I've actually had callbacks
[10:49] Speaker 2: as well. I go, that's incredible. So we and my
[10:57] Speaker 2: wife went up to Foot Days of Vanessa's Park and
[11:03] Speaker 2: every year they have the celebrities from the shows come
[11:07] Speaker 2: and talk. So got to meet Russell Accord and Rodney
[11:11] Speaker 2: Leblank from Expedition Bigfoot and Renee Holland from Find You Bigfoot,
[11:18] Speaker 2: and I told my story and instantly Russell puled me aside.
[11:23] Speaker 2: He goes, I need to talk to you and get
[11:26] Speaker 2: all of your facts because this is an incredible story.
[11:30] Speaker 2: I go, sure, I'll sit down with you, I'll have
[11:33] Speaker 2: a talk chat with you. I'll let you know what
[11:35] Speaker 2: I saw. And he was just mind blowed. I'm what
[11:39] Speaker 2: he told me. He's like, I just need everything that
[11:42] Speaker 2: you saw. Oh, sure, not a problem. So I actually
[11:49] Speaker 2: got into a Bigfoot magazine with this as well too,
[11:56] Speaker 2: and also done further expedition here in Colorado. Went up
[12:02] Speaker 2: to a place called Red Feather Lakes up in northern Colorado,
[12:08] Speaker 2: which is a hot spot. Interviewed a few people at
[12:12] Speaker 2: the town of Red Feather Lakes and got some locations.
[12:19] Speaker 2: So what I did is I set up trail cams,
[12:22] Speaker 2: left them for a few nights, brought them back, and incredibly,
[12:30] Speaker 2: I got what looks like eyeshine in one of them,
[12:34] Speaker 2: on the open by one of the tree structures who's
[12:38] Speaker 2: kind of hunched down looking around, and then he left.
[12:45] Speaker 2: So my wife had an incredible experience as well too.
[12:54] Speaker 2: So when she was seven years old, she's thirty now.
[13:00] Speaker 2: She was camping with her family in California, and she
[13:07] Speaker 2: went on a little nature walk into the woods during
[13:10] Speaker 2: the day and lo and behold, she came face to
[13:15] Speaker 2: face with a probably seven to eight foot tannish brown bigfoot.
[13:23] Speaker 2: She was seven feet from it. She looked down at
[13:28] Speaker 2: the feet, then she looked up and she said that
[13:33] Speaker 2: he was snarling, growling, kind of grunting, and kind of
[13:38] Speaker 2: sniff in the air, just sniff in the air, looking around.
[13:42] Speaker 2: And I asked her, did he do anything. She goes, no,
[13:45] Speaker 2: but he decided, you know, to do that, and then
[13:48] Speaker 2: he ran away and he hid into the brushes. And
[13:52] Speaker 2: then she went back and you know, being at that age, no, no,
[13:56] Speaker 2: she said to her mom, I think I saw a bear,
[14:00] Speaker 2: but with two legs. So she said that the feet
[14:04] Speaker 2: were enormous and huge. So she talked about that as
[14:12] Speaker 2: well at the Bigfoot rally. And so, yeah, I've actually
[14:19] Speaker 2: talked to other witnesses throughout the state as well. I
[14:23] Speaker 2: did talk to a lady who hear and her husband
[14:30] Speaker 2: were camping in the town of Steeball Springs, which is
[14:33] Speaker 2: in northern Colorado here, and she told me that she
[14:39] Speaker 2: was hearing footsteps around the tent, and all of a sudden,
[14:45] Speaker 2: a big hand pushed the tent in and it kind
[14:50] Speaker 2: of rest her head, went across her head. And this
[14:55] Speaker 2: is a big hand outside pushing the tent in and
[14:59] Speaker 2: just go going across her head. And she's like, we
[15:03] Speaker 2: got out of there that night. I have talked too many.
[15:11] Speaker 2: I was born in Minnesota originally and got to go
[15:15] Speaker 2: up to the town of raamer Minnesota, which is a
[15:20] Speaker 2: hotspot as well. They like to call themselves the Bigfoot
[15:25] Speaker 2: Capital of the World. And so even Finding Bigfoot has
[15:30] Speaker 2: gone up there and done some expeditions, and so I've
[15:34] Speaker 2: gotten to talk to the Minnesota BFO Bigfoot researchers as
[15:39] Speaker 2: well up there. And so we actually went out into
[15:44] Speaker 2: the woods during the day out there, and I really
[15:49] Speaker 2: can't confirm it, but I do believe. As I was
[15:53] Speaker 2: traveling in my car, I looked out my side window,
[15:57] Speaker 2: and I do believe I saw one following air car
[16:00] Speaker 2: in the woods, not really a big one but kind
[16:05] Speaker 2: of maybe juvenile, and he was probably maybe fifteen feet
[16:11] Speaker 2: from the car and he was following the car and running.
[16:17] Speaker 2: So I've had, yeah, I've had a lot of a
[16:23] Speaker 2: lot of encounters. And so I'm actually about to go
[16:29] Speaker 2: back up to Bailey and do a little documentary about
[16:35] Speaker 2: my encounter and show people where I had my encounter,
[16:39] Speaker 2: and to show them how hard it was for my
[16:45] Speaker 2: bigfoot to actually come up from the river and limb
[16:49] Speaker 2: the rocks, then actually get up to the road and
[16:54] Speaker 2: then sprint across. I mean probably in times in terms
[17:02] Speaker 2: of minutes, I'd say maybe two minutes at that. It
[17:09] Speaker 2: was quick. It was I mean, he did not want
[17:12] Speaker 2: to be spotted. He did not want to be seen.
[17:17] Speaker 2: It was like, oh boy, I've been spotted, kind of
[17:22] Speaker 2: a thing. And he never looked at me as he
[17:25] Speaker 2: was going across the road. He was dead eye, wanting
[17:29] Speaker 2: to get into the woods. So, having said that, there's
[17:35] Speaker 2: one more instance up there. This was twenty sixteen, and
[17:42] Speaker 2: of course Jim Myers has a museum at his outpost.
[17:47] Speaker 2: There was a gentleman at a trail called ben Tyler Trail,
[17:52] Speaker 2: not too far from where I had my encounter, and
[17:56] Speaker 2: he was hiking with his pitbull, and she went up
[18:02] Speaker 2: a little ahead of him, and all of a sudden
[18:06] Speaker 2: she is coming towards him in reverse with her tail down,
[18:11] Speaker 2: scared petrified. He looks up and he thought it was
[18:17] Speaker 2: possibly a homeless guy, but it wasn't. Fifty feet away,
[18:24] Speaker 2: a female Sasquatch on the trail looked at him, and
[18:28] Speaker 2: he saw everything he could distinguish that she was female,
[18:34] Speaker 2: so he immediately ran. His dog actually got gought two
[18:40] Speaker 2: the car before him, and he ran to the Sasquatch
[18:44] Speaker 2: outposts and he screamed at Jim for having somebody dressed
[18:47] Speaker 2: up as a bigfoot, and Jim's like, there was nobody
[18:52] Speaker 2: up there. What did you see? And he told them,
[18:56] Speaker 2: And from what Jim told me is that he was
[18:59] Speaker 2: so traumatized that you couldn't even function. And he decided
[19:04] Speaker 2: to move out of state and moved to Alaska with
[19:06] Speaker 2: his brother, get away with everything. It's like, well, okay,
[19:10] Speaker 2: I mean they're up there too, but I mean the
[19:15] Speaker 2: experience of seeing a bigfoot will totally change your life.
[19:19] Speaker 2: I mean, if people that get on these sites and
[19:25] Speaker 2: just are just saying, you know, they don't exist, there
[19:30] Speaker 2: are nothing out there. Are the people that do not
[19:33] Speaker 2: go out there. And I tell people, if you don't
[19:36] Speaker 2: believe in them, like I did, go out and experience
[19:41] Speaker 2: it yourself. See what we're talking about you run into one.
[19:49] Speaker 2: I mean seriously, it's it'll change your life forever. And
[19:54] Speaker 2: I work at my job and my bos Actually his
[20:01] Speaker 2: brother in California went on a little hike as well
[20:07] Speaker 2: in the Redwood forest and he went off trail a
[20:11] Speaker 2: little bit and he spotted one watching him as well,
[20:16] Speaker 2: and he really he just saw the head kind of
[20:19] Speaker 2: looking at him, you know, kind of watching, and he
[20:22] Speaker 2: got spooked and he went back under the trail, the
[20:26] Speaker 2: original trail with his family. So people that criticize us,
[20:31] Speaker 2: that don't believe, I say, go out there and experience
[20:35] Speaker 2: it yourself, because they are out there, they are, and
[20:39] Speaker 2: their masters of hiding. They know how to cover their tracks.
[20:46] Speaker 2: You know. It's it's a very interesting subject, it is,
[20:51] Speaker 2: and stuff. And having talked to you know a lot
[20:56] Speaker 2: of the people in the fields, Russell Accord, Ronnie LeBlanc
[20:59] Speaker 2: running running, or Renee Holland Cliff Bertman from Finding Bigfoot,
[21:04] Speaker 2: I've met him, and really, you know, the subject is,
[21:12] Speaker 2: you know why, you know, why isn't there a body?
[21:16] Speaker 2: You know, wires in their bones and everything. Is My
[21:20] Speaker 2: assumption is that you know, they do know how to
[21:22] Speaker 2: bury their dead, They do know how to cover their tracks.
[21:28] Speaker 2: I really do believe in the cave system. I do
[21:31] Speaker 2: believe that they do hide out in caves as well too.
[21:34] Speaker 2: That's my opinion. I do believe that they do know
[21:38] Speaker 2: how to blend into a into environments and know how
[21:45] Speaker 2: to disappear. And really, you know, with people that are
[21:51] Speaker 2: afraid to go out there and experience it, you know,
[21:54] Speaker 2: if you see one, my advice just you know, respect them,
[22:00] Speaker 2: he for distance, don't spook them, you know, just really
[22:07] Speaker 2: observe them. Is what I have to say to people,
[22:10] Speaker 2: is really observe them. You know. It's like I did
[22:14] Speaker 2: up in Glen Haven. You know, I respected him. I
[22:18] Speaker 2: did not push it any further than what I needed
[22:22] Speaker 2: to do. I was not the yeah, who's like, okay,
[22:25] Speaker 2: you know what, I want to go find out where
[22:28] Speaker 2: the song came from. You know where it was that
[22:31] Speaker 2: close and it spooked me and being alone that day,
[22:35] Speaker 2: it's just like, okay, I respect you. You know, this
[22:39] Speaker 2: is your territory, not mine. I'm going to be done
[22:42] Speaker 2: for the day. I had my experience and that was
[22:45] Speaker 2: good enough for me. That's how I go do my expeditions.
[22:51] Speaker 2: I don't push the envelope any further than I need
[22:54] Speaker 2: to because people that like do this, you know, other
[23:00] Speaker 2: people that dot to also say, respect your boundaries is
[23:05] Speaker 2: what you need to do. So yeah, I mean it's
[23:10] Speaker 2: a life changing experience. And my dad before he passed
[23:14] Speaker 2: away in twenty eighteen, I got to tell him and
[23:18] Speaker 2: he was big into bigfoot. That made him made his
[23:21] Speaker 2: day as well, and so yeah, I mean, it's it's
[23:27] Speaker 2: an incredible thing. And we're actually going to go back
[23:30] Speaker 2: out this summer. We're going to try to and camp.
[23:34] Speaker 2: I'll buy Bailey as well too, So there you go.
[23:41] Speaker 2: Some of my experiences.
[23:44] Speaker 1: Well you've had some interesting ones, that's for sure.
[23:47] Speaker 2: It is a life changing experience, I can tell you.
[23:49] Speaker 2: And then we just just yeah, forgot about this one,
[23:57] Speaker 2: which is a very puzzling. We have a town called Longmont,
[24:03] Speaker 2: which is seventeen miles south of here. So this happened
[24:09] Speaker 2: about three weeks ago. And with bigfoots, they like to
[24:16] Speaker 2: you know, be in their environment. They like to not
[24:20] Speaker 2: be seen, not you know everything. They like to be hidden. Well,
[24:26] Speaker 2: this bigfoot got a little brave, so he was spotted
[24:38] Speaker 2: out in the open on an open field with no trees,
[24:44] Speaker 2: no cover, nothing, out on the road walking alongside a
[24:49] Speaker 2: road and this lady who's been there for fifty four
[24:53] Speaker 2: years saw him walking around ten thirty at night, full moon,
[25:01] Speaker 2: so she could see the features and he was probably
[25:05] Speaker 2: about eight feet tall. He was just walking. So really,
[25:13] Speaker 2: this one's mysterious. This one scratches ahead. And I've talked
[25:18] Speaker 2: to a couple experts on this one. And you know,
[25:22] Speaker 2: he did come down, first of all, from the mountains, okay,
[25:27] Speaker 2: And I did a from where he was spotted to
[25:33] Speaker 2: where he came from he came down, and he had
[25:36] Speaker 2: to cross a major highway first of all, Highway thirty six,
[25:44] Speaker 2: which is by between Lions, Colorado and Boulder, Colorado, and
[25:49] Speaker 2: it's all on the open and it was about a
[25:52] Speaker 2: mile walk when he was spotted and he was completely
[25:56] Speaker 2: out in the open. So either he was lost, hungry,
[26:04] Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean. This one still boggles
[26:07] Speaker 2: my mind that this bigfoot was out in the open,
[26:12] Speaker 2: whether there was no cover and everything, and he was
[26:14] Speaker 2: I guess heading north, so you just possibly looking for food.
[26:20] Speaker 2: It is possible, but yeah, I mean, it's it's an
[26:26] Speaker 2: incredible thing to see. It will definitely with people that
[26:31] Speaker 2: don't believe, you know, I've been you know, people like
[26:35] Speaker 2: yeah right, I go, I know what I saw. And
[26:39] Speaker 2: you know, when you're seventy five feet from a creature
[26:42] Speaker 2: like that, and it ain't no person, ain't no deer,
[26:48] Speaker 2: ain't no bear. When you see something go across the
[26:52] Speaker 2: road with you know, on two legs and arm swings,
[26:58] Speaker 2: it ain't no moose and ate nothing. It's a bigfoot.
[27:01] Speaker 2: And I'll tell you it's yeah to day. And people
[27:07] Speaker 2: are like, you know, didn't you get you know, didn't
[27:10] Speaker 2: you get pictures? And I go, I wasn't looking for
[27:12] Speaker 2: a big foot. You know, I didn't believe in it.
[27:16] Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to get home. You know, I
[27:18] Speaker 2: was tired. I was driving all night, you know, to
[27:21] Speaker 2: get home. And it just happened, you know. And that's
[27:25] Speaker 2: what bigfooting is all about, is that you know, they
[27:30] Speaker 2: you don't find them, they find you. It is what
[27:33] Speaker 2: it is, you know, and getting to know Jim Myers
[27:38] Speaker 2: and you know, you know, learning about the field all
[27:41] Speaker 2: these years. You know, like I said, not to go back,
[27:45] Speaker 2: but you respect them. You let them dictate that they
[27:51] Speaker 2: want to be spotted by you, okay. And like I say,
[27:55] Speaker 2: if you come up bone structures and everything, ruptural camps,
[27:59] Speaker 2: you know, leave offerings like apples, you know, everything like that,
[28:05] Speaker 2: but be respectful to their environment. And because they've been
[28:11] Speaker 2: here a long time before us. I mean, even the
[28:14] Speaker 2: Native Americans have talked about him. That's all. The name
[28:17] Speaker 2: Sasquatch came about from the Native Americans. And so I
[28:23] Speaker 2: think for me, the best way I can describe my
[28:29] Speaker 2: sighting would be the Patterson Gimblett film with Patty the
[28:35] Speaker 2: famous nineteen sixty seven Bigfoot sighting in California. Everybody knows
[28:40] Speaker 2: that one perfectly what I saw or she was a
[28:46] Speaker 2: female in that one, but mine was a male. And
[28:49] Speaker 2: people ask me, how did you just think it was
[28:52] Speaker 2: a male? I go, I saw the entire body. I
[28:55] Speaker 2: mean I was watching him, looked right at his eyes.
[29:01] Speaker 2: I drove so yeah, I mean it's he. I have
[29:08] Speaker 2: to describe probably about eight hundred pounds of pure muscle.
[29:12] Speaker 2: I mean, he was solid. I mean, if I would
[29:15] Speaker 2: have hit him, my engine would have been in my
[29:18] Speaker 2: lap pretty much. My whole car would have been totaled
[29:21] Speaker 2: if I would have hit him. But uh, he probably
[29:26] Speaker 2: maybe five ten miles per hour new sprinting. He did
[29:31] Speaker 2: not want to be seen, and then you know he
[29:34] Speaker 2: was up there and he moved a little bit, and yeah,
[29:39] Speaker 2: went back home and holed and that's when my experiences started. Incredible,
[29:46] Speaker 2: isn't it.
[29:47] Speaker 1: Just about everything about these guys is incredible. That's a
[29:51] Speaker 1: really good way to sum it up.
[29:52] Speaker 3: It is.
[29:53] Speaker 2: Oh, oh yeah, it's just yeah. You know, I've talked
[29:58] Speaker 2: to so many people throughout state. I've just talked to
[30:01] Speaker 2: a guy that uh I deliver pizza, and so I've
[30:07] Speaker 2: talked to a lot of people customers as well too.
[30:11] Speaker 2: You know, I've seen people, you know, customers with bigfoot stickers,
[30:14] Speaker 2: and I've had so many good conversations for you know,
[30:18] Speaker 2: maybe one or two three minutes about people have had
[30:22] Speaker 2: sightings as well. You know, one guy Salt Park, the
[30:25] Speaker 2: famous you know cartoon, but there is Salt Park, Colorado
[30:28] Speaker 2: out here, and a gentleman told me that he was
[30:32] Speaker 2: a rancher out there and here he's like, oh, I've
[30:35] Speaker 2: heard him all night, you know, probably five six hours
[30:41] Speaker 2: continuously just screaming, whooping, you know, growling in the woods,
[30:45] Speaker 2: tree knocks, everything. Colorado is a hotspot for bigfoot activity,
[30:53] Speaker 2: you know, I mean California of course, Oregon, Washington Peninsula.
[30:57] Speaker 2: All that of course is you know, the major sp
[31:00] Speaker 2: Ohio is another one. But Colorado, you know, we have
[31:04] Speaker 2: the mountains out here, a lot of places to hide,
[31:09] Speaker 2: a lot of wooded area out here and everything too.
[31:12] Speaker 2: And Bailey for some reason has a just like ground Central.
[31:20] Speaker 2: There is a show on to B about Bailey and
[31:25] Speaker 2: about all the experiences out there as well too and stuff.
[31:28] Speaker 2: And so talking to Russell the Cord and I mentioned
[31:31] Speaker 2: that to him, He's like, I need to get out
[31:33] Speaker 2: there and go. Yeah, you do, you know, I mean,
[31:37] Speaker 2: if you really want to experience out here in Colorado,
[31:44] Speaker 2: that's that's ground Central right there, because it's still wooded
[31:48] Speaker 2: out there and everything too. And there's rivers, you know,
[31:51] Speaker 2: ranches out there, plenty of food sources for them, you know,
[31:56] Speaker 2: a lot of cover, you know, everything and stuff. So yeah,
[32:02] Speaker 2: it's it's an amazing it's an amazing thing. And that's
[32:06] Speaker 2: I started my North American Sasquatch page, and you know,
[32:13] Speaker 2: because I've really dedicated myself to this field as well too.
[32:19] Speaker 1: And so.
[32:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in two years we're moving to Minnesota,
[32:26] Speaker 2: and so I'm gonna be doing a lot of research
[32:28] Speaker 2: up there as well. In Wisconsin, and Michigan's a hot
[32:32] Speaker 2: spot as well too. I'm very intrigued about that area
[32:36] Speaker 2: as well too. And you know the videos that just
[32:40] Speaker 2: that famous video for Minnesota during Christmas time twenty fourteen
[32:45] Speaker 2: when that lady was you know, videotaping Christmas and then
[32:49] Speaker 2: she spotted one in the yard and they went out
[32:52] Speaker 2: and watched it in the woods walking away stuffs incredible.
[32:57] Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the ones that are credible are
[33:04] Speaker 2: the ones that you know, they're the ones that just
[33:09] Speaker 2: it's a spur of a moment thing, you know, like
[33:12] Speaker 2: I said, they find you. You don't find that and
[33:15] Speaker 2: stuff and you go out and you look for them chests.
[33:18] Speaker 2: Are you going to possibly find one? Maybe not? You know,
[33:21] Speaker 2: it takes a while, but yeah, I mean it's an
[33:26] Speaker 2: incredible thing. And we're going to further research as well too.
[33:29] Speaker 2: We're going to get out to the West Coast a
[33:31] Speaker 2: little bit and we're gonna do that and stuff. And
[33:35] Speaker 2: so I would love to go up to the Olympic
[33:37] Speaker 2: Peninsula and see if we can find one. Mount Saint
[33:40] Speaker 2: Helen's area out there is another hot spot. You know,
[33:46] Speaker 2: there's just so many areas in this country that they
[33:48] Speaker 2: are you know, and I know Michigan's a hotspot too.
[33:52] Speaker 2: In Ohio too, So.
[33:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of them. Brian, you told
[33:58] Speaker 1: us that you think non believers are people don't go
[34:00] Speaker 1: into the woods. You used to be a skeptic though,
[34:04] Speaker 1: and I'm wondering before you had that sighting, did you
[34:07] Speaker 1: avoid the woods?
[34:09] Speaker 2: I did? You know? I went on ice and everything
[34:14] Speaker 2: in national parks around here and never had an experience,
[34:20] Speaker 2: not even close. No, you know, if it really, to
[34:24] Speaker 2: be honest with you, never entered my mind, you know,
[34:27] Speaker 2: to look for sasquatch. I mean, we had mountain lions,
[34:33] Speaker 2: you know, I've had you know what, a mount lion,
[34:41] Speaker 2: mount mount goats you know, I had one on a
[34:44] Speaker 2: trail once watched me and come up to me in
[34:46] Speaker 2: Rocky Mountain National Park, which is not too far from
[34:49] Speaker 2: where I live. You know, seeing a lot of you know, elkin,
[34:53] Speaker 2: all that stuff. But never, you know, in my mind,
[34:57] Speaker 2: did I ever think that I would come face to
[35:00] Speaker 2: face with a bigfoot. Was just a spur of a
[35:05] Speaker 2: moment thing. It just happened. And that's what I'm saying
[35:09] Speaker 2: with people that don't believe. You know, you may go
[35:13] Speaker 2: out and never experience it, but you know what, there
[35:19] Speaker 2: was always that little chance that it might happen, and
[35:22] Speaker 2: it happened for me, you know, and that turned me
[35:25] Speaker 2: from a skeptic into a believer that day. And you know,
[35:32] Speaker 2: now I go out and I do calls and where
[35:37] Speaker 2: I didn't do that before because I never entered my mind.
[35:41] Speaker 2: And you know, I've had my experiences, you know, like
[35:45] Speaker 2: my wife perfect example, you know, going back to where
[35:50] Speaker 2: just went on a little walk and she came face
[35:54] Speaker 2: to face with one. It's just that one percent chance
[35:59] Speaker 2: of it happening. For many people that I've talked to,
[36:03] Speaker 2: it has happened and stuff. And so what intrigues me
[36:09] Speaker 2: about bigfoots too, is that the fact that you know,
[36:14] Speaker 2: they are curious creatures. You know, there are some that
[36:19] Speaker 2: can be possibly aggressive, But from people that I've talked
[36:24] Speaker 2: to throughout the state, I have said that they've never
[36:30] Speaker 2: had a negative encounter with one. I've never had a
[36:35] Speaker 2: negative encounter except for the growl. But you know what
[36:43] Speaker 2: really intrigues me about bigfoots is that you know, they
[36:47] Speaker 2: are the woodland people, they are Native Americans have always
[36:53] Speaker 2: respect them as well too, you know, going into re
[36:56] Speaker 2: search about that, watching you know, shows, I watch a
[37:00] Speaker 2: lot of shows about bigfoot and I think really when
[37:06] Speaker 2: you camp out, I think and they come out, I
[37:12] Speaker 2: think they're little like, oh, this is kind of out
[37:15] Speaker 2: of place, We're going to go check it out, you know,
[37:18] Speaker 2: And a lot of people, like a couple that I
[37:21] Speaker 2: just told you that happened to be steamboat springs. You know,
[37:25] Speaker 2: I think they're just curious creatures. You know. I think
[37:28] Speaker 2: possibly they're hungry, you're looking for food like bears, but
[37:33] Speaker 2: you know, they're generally curious. You know, what are these
[37:39] Speaker 2: people doing here? You know, what are these things? You know,
[37:42] Speaker 2: I'm sure they're really curious about, like tents and everything.
[37:45] Speaker 2: And I've seen like a couple of expedition bigfoots where
[37:50] Speaker 2: shows where it's been destroyed. You know, they destroy them.
[37:53] Speaker 2: And so yeah, I mean, the further you get into
[37:58] Speaker 2: investigating them, the more more you learn about the species
[38:02] Speaker 2: and how to respect them. So the more that you
[38:06] Speaker 2: learn to respect them, it's safer you're going to be
[38:10] Speaker 2: if you're going to go into this field. You know,
[38:15] Speaker 2: be respectful of their environment, because you're really in their environment.
[38:23] Speaker 2: You know, you are the visitor. They're kind of this
[38:27] Speaker 2: is our home. And that's how I have come upon
[38:31] Speaker 2: my investigations is to be respectful and say, okay, you
[38:36] Speaker 2: know what, I've got my activity for the day. I'm happy. Hey,
[38:41] Speaker 2: I had my experience. I'm good with that. I'm a
[38:44] Speaker 2: person who doesn't believe in pushing the boundaries. I believe
[38:51] Speaker 2: in respecting their space, because that's what Native Americans even did.
[38:56] Speaker 2: They're respected their their space, you know, and you know
[39:02] Speaker 2: it's incredible. I've I've gotten footprints as well too out here,
[39:06] Speaker 2: free structures. You know, I took photos everything, but I
[39:12] Speaker 2: leave them alone. I it's like, okay, this is your structures.
[39:18] Speaker 2: You built them. I'm not going to touch them. That's
[39:23] Speaker 2: how I go bound my investigations. And I think that's
[39:27] Speaker 2: you know, really respectful in the field. If you're going
[39:30] Speaker 2: to do that, just don't be a yahoo and decide
[39:34] Speaker 2: to go try to hunt one down, try to shoot one,
[39:39] Speaker 2: you know, try to be this macho man of a person.
[39:42] Speaker 2: Don't do that. If you see one film it you know,
[39:47] Speaker 2: you know, get audio, do whatever you can to prove
[39:50] Speaker 2: the existence. But respect their boundaries, and there were they
[39:55] Speaker 2: will respect yours as well. That's how I go about it.
[40:01] Speaker 2: And that's the thing is, I've watched these shows where
[40:03] Speaker 2: like one gentleman he uh he was with us. I
[40:07] Speaker 2: think it was Oregon. Yeah, it was Oregon, and him
[40:11] Speaker 2: and his buddy were out. They were in their truck
[40:16] Speaker 2: and they spotted a male or a bigfoot I think
[40:21] Speaker 2: it was a male possibly, and he took out his gun,
[40:25] Speaker 2: his and you know, twelve gage, and he shot it,
[40:29] Speaker 2: wounded it, and his buddies just like, you know, just
[40:34] Speaker 2: don't do it anymore. He got out and they found
[40:36] Speaker 2: a juvenile and killed it and actually held it in
[40:41] Speaker 2: his arms and you know, and then it died and
[40:44] Speaker 2: they buried it and they went and got a friend.
[40:47] Speaker 2: They were kind of worried about you know, authorities, you know,
[40:52] Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And they went back and they
[40:57] Speaker 2: couldn't find it where they buried it. And so it's
[41:02] Speaker 2: possibly that the other bigfoots came back and moved the body,
[41:06] Speaker 2: got it out of there and stuff like that. And
[41:10] Speaker 2: you know, just seeing all these documentaries and everything too
[41:16] Speaker 2: and stuff, I mean, I mean, the strength of these
[41:19] Speaker 2: creatures are just in reel. I mean seeing that one
[41:26] Speaker 2: in Elberta, Canada, with the loggers, they witnessed one crouching
[41:33] Speaker 2: down in the fog and it picked up h three
[41:40] Speaker 2: a big tree ripped it out of the ground and
[41:43] Speaker 2: tossed it twenty feet and they couldn't believe it. And
[41:47] Speaker 2: it was just crouching down watching them. I mean, and
[41:51] Speaker 2: that's another safety feature too, if you're going to respect them,
[41:56] Speaker 2: respect their strength, because they literally could kill you. I
[42:02] Speaker 2: mean if they wanted to, just to be blunt, they
[42:06] Speaker 2: could if they felt threatened, you know. And even Russell
[42:09] Speaker 2: told me that. You know, I've learned talking to Russell
[42:13] Speaker 2: Accord up when I met him. I just talked to
[42:17] Speaker 2: him actually just on Facebook. You're a little bit too,
[42:20] Speaker 2: He told me, Yeah, you have to be respectful.
[42:23] Speaker 3: You know.
[42:23] Speaker 2: You got to let technology take care of it. I mean,
[42:29] Speaker 2: if you see one from a distance, record it, like
[42:33] Speaker 2: I said, recorded, you know, document whatever you can prove
[42:37] Speaker 2: the existence of these creatures. I mean, I've been a
[42:41] Speaker 2: paranormal investigator with my wife for twenty five years, and
[42:45] Speaker 2: I've learned not to posh pushed boundaries of you know,
[42:50] Speaker 2: you know, hurting yourself or your teammates. You know, you
[42:54] Speaker 2: do what you can to document stuff, but don't push it.
[42:58] Speaker 2: Just be respectful. Yep. And I love to interview people too,
[43:05] Speaker 2: which is incredible, and I've gotten a few people that
[43:08] Speaker 2: are like, yeah, you're nuts, you know, they don't they
[43:10] Speaker 2: don't exist. I go, how do you know? I go,
[43:14] Speaker 2: I've actually gone up and say, have you ever gone out? No? Well,
[43:18] Speaker 2: how do you know they don't exist if you don't
[43:20] Speaker 2: go out there and look for you know, these people
[43:23] Speaker 2: that on the sides and Facebook that you know. I've
[43:28] Speaker 2: gone off a couple of sites because I just couldn't
[43:31] Speaker 2: stand it anymore. You know, you tell the story and
[43:34] Speaker 2: then they laugh at you and they just you know,
[43:36] Speaker 2: it's just like and I go, how do you know,
[43:39] Speaker 2: why don't you get out of the house, go out
[43:41] Speaker 2: in the woods and experience it for yourself and that'll
[43:45] Speaker 2: change your mind, you know. Just yeah, people kind of
[43:49] Speaker 2: get to me a little bit, but you know it's
[43:50] Speaker 2: just like, well, you know whatever. But I mean, yeah,
[43:55] Speaker 2: it's it's an incredible experience.
[43:58] Speaker 1: It is never a dull moment, that's for sure.
[44:03] Speaker 2: You can tell me that. I mean, when you hear
[44:05] Speaker 2: a roar, you hear them scream, it'll go through you.
[44:12] Speaker 2: It will mean. The one up in Glen Haven, you know,
[44:17] Speaker 2: I actually was. It's a really nice trail, beautiful trail,
[44:21] Speaker 2: culture trail, and went up there on a windy day,
[44:27] Speaker 2: took my cameras and everything, and actually in the distance,
[44:32] Speaker 2: you know, I thought I saw one watching me. Okay,
[44:37] Speaker 2: So we've gone up there a couple of times. I
[44:41] Speaker 2: actually took an old friend that I used to know
[44:44] Speaker 2: up there, and we saw structures up there, and so
[44:50] Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you know what, I'm going to go
[44:52] Speaker 2: out there and investigate, and yep, going up the trail
[45:00] Speaker 2: and that's when it happened and stuff, and it's just like,
[45:03] Speaker 2: you know, I'm alone today. I'm not going to push
[45:05] Speaker 2: it any further. I got my evidence. Okay, I'm good
[45:09] Speaker 2: for the day. And so and you know, talking to
[45:17] Speaker 2: locals around here and everything too, and stuff like that.
[45:19] Speaker 2: People do believe in the state, they do and stuff.
[45:24] Speaker 2: I mean, it's I'm so it's a pleasure, uh talking
[45:29] Speaker 2: to you tonight and everything. A believer. I really appreciate that.
[45:33] Speaker 2: And you know, getting people to understand that these creatures
[45:39] Speaker 2: do exist and they have fixes before us even living here.
[45:43] Speaker 2: You know, the Native Americans, you know, the gentleman that uh,
[45:47] Speaker 2: the logger from California who you know, I f on
[45:50] Speaker 2: the footprint, Jerry CRUs Yeah, who sent you know, the footprint,
[45:58] Speaker 2: you know, to the newspaper and that's where the bigfoot
[46:02] Speaker 2: name got coined. You know, back in the fifties. The
[46:06] Speaker 2: junt I can't forget his name now, an Oregon who
[46:08] Speaker 2: dedicated his life to bigfooting. And then finally one day
[46:14] Speaker 2: that he got it on you know, got one going
[46:18] Speaker 2: into the woods during the day and everything, and he
[46:21] Speaker 2: videotaped it that one. I can't remember his name, but
[46:26] Speaker 2: came home excited, you know, shocked, like like me, you know,
[46:31] Speaker 2: came home saying, I finally got one on film and everything.
[46:35] Speaker 2: And he was just all, you know, terrified, scared, excited,
[46:39] Speaker 2: you know, the same time and everything. You know, people
[46:43] Speaker 2: that go out like I say, and do it like
[46:46] Speaker 2: I do, really do prove the existence of these creatures.
[46:52] Speaker 2: They do. And you know the guy that saw the one,
[46:57] Speaker 2: the female one, you know, he criticized him for, oh,
[47:01] Speaker 2: you got somebody up there, you know, you're trying to
[47:03] Speaker 2: you know, boost business for your your outpost here and
[47:07] Speaker 2: Jim's site. No, there's nobody up there. And he goes,
[47:10] Speaker 2: quote he goes, if there was somebody be up there
[47:13] Speaker 2: with a shotgun, he goes, nobody was up there, you know,
[47:17] Speaker 2: And I turned that guy to a believer, you know,
[47:20] Speaker 2: you know, when you get traumatized like that and move
[47:23] Speaker 2: out of state, you know, you definitely do become a believer.
[47:25] Speaker 2: You know, it'll shock your system, especially that close and
[47:30] Speaker 2: people with that one, which I find an interesting story
[47:33] Speaker 2: is that he did have his cell phone, you know,
[47:38] Speaker 2: close to him, but the shock and the you know,
[47:44] Speaker 2: being absolutely terrified seeing one that close fifty feet away. Hell,
[47:52] Speaker 2: you know, people are like wanting to take a photo
[47:54] Speaker 2: and he's like, I wanted just to get on there.
[47:57] Speaker 2: He goes, he cut He didn't even you know, honestly,
[48:00] Speaker 2: from what I read with this gentleman, he cut corners,
[48:04] Speaker 2: he went, he didn't even follow the trail down. He
[48:06] Speaker 2: cut corners. He went through the woods to get back
[48:09] Speaker 2: to his car. That's how terrified this guy was, you know.
[48:13] Speaker 2: And Jim said to me, he owes, this guy was
[48:16] Speaker 2: just beyond terrified. He was just everything. He was just
[48:20] Speaker 2: his mind couldn't even process what he saw up there
[48:25] Speaker 2: and stuff. And we've gotten up that trail and stuff,
[48:27] Speaker 2: and it's pretty unique trail up there. It's long and everything,
[48:31] Speaker 2: it's it's out there and stuff, and so it's definitely
[48:37] Speaker 2: bigfoot environment up in that area.
[48:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like it must be you and your wife
[48:43] Speaker 1: were paranormal investigators long before he saw that nine foot
[48:47] Speaker 1: tall sasquatch. Brian, with that in mind, how could you
[48:51] Speaker 1: have been such a skeptic regarding their existence when you
[48:55] Speaker 1: believed wholeheartedly in paranormal phenomena.
[48:59] Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. You know. I've dedicated my
[49:03] Speaker 2: with with paranormal investigations. I really dedicate it, and I
[49:08] Speaker 2: still do dedicate my life to it. Yeah, and so
[49:14] Speaker 2: really the subject of sasquatch never entered my mind, you know,
[49:19] Speaker 2: I really at the time, I was so so dedicated
[49:25] Speaker 2: to spirits, you know, all that stuff and everything, just
[49:29] Speaker 2: going out and doing investigations, and so the you know,
[49:37] Speaker 2: subject to bigfoot really never interests me, I guess at
[49:42] Speaker 2: that time on stuff because I was so dedicated and
[49:46] Speaker 2: I still am to the field of paranormal investigations. Lo
[49:51] Speaker 2: and behold, it caught up to me in the most
[49:56] Speaker 2: unusual way, I guess. And so, yep, that day is
[50:02] Speaker 2: the day I was like, well, you know what chasing ghosts, Well,
[50:07] Speaker 2: now I'm going to be chasing bickfoot's as well and stuff.
[50:09] Speaker 2: And then my wife never telling me until years later
[50:14] Speaker 2: that she had an experience, you know, because she was
[50:16] Speaker 2: you know, a little you know, worried about people ridiculing
[50:21] Speaker 2: or what she saw, you know, being seven years old
[50:23] Speaker 2: at the time too, you don't know, you know. And
[50:28] Speaker 2: then what made me proud of her, her name's Taren,
[50:33] Speaker 2: is the fact that last year at the at the convention,
[50:41] Speaker 2: she got up and she told people about it, and
[50:43] Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm proud of you. She goes, I've been
[50:46] Speaker 2: so scared of telling people about it, but she goes,
[50:49] Speaker 2: people are like, that's awesome. It is, you know, And
[50:54] Speaker 2: you know, I've talked to a couple of people that
[50:56] Speaker 2: are so scared about their experiences. They don't want to
[50:58] Speaker 2: be ridiculed. It's not don't be you know, if you've
[51:02] Speaker 2: had an experience, talk about it. Don't let people the
[51:06] Speaker 2: negative nancies get you down. If you've had an experience,
[51:11] Speaker 2: talk about it, let people. You know, I've I've I've
[51:15] Speaker 2: had my negative nancies and so what people Those are
[51:19] Speaker 2: the people that just don't go out there and do it,
[51:23] Speaker 2: you know, they're just like, well, the Robertson Patterson Goodlin film,
[51:27] Speaker 2: Oh that was just a costume. No, it wasn't. You know,
[51:30] Speaker 2: it's there's no way a human could walk like that.
[51:32] Speaker 2: And it's been you know, scientifically already proven. You know,
[51:37] Speaker 2: people already that time of the decades are like, we
[51:41] Speaker 2: never had a costume that could do that. I mean,
[51:43] Speaker 2: she had breasts, you know, of course, saw that her muscles,
[51:48] Speaker 2: you know, and the University of Minnesota, uh tried to
[51:53] Speaker 2: have a guy walk like that. He couldn't do it.
[51:56] Speaker 2: He was an athlete. You know. It's just yeah, I
[52:04] Speaker 2: really was proud of her for, you know, standing up
[52:07] Speaker 2: saying yeah, I saw it and stuff, and you know,
[52:11] Speaker 2: and that's what a lot of people need to do,
[52:13] Speaker 2: and you know, is not to be afraid if you've
[52:18] Speaker 2: had a sighting, you know, talk about it and don't
[52:22] Speaker 2: let the negative people get you down, you know. And
[52:27] Speaker 2: you know that's on Facebook here, you know, I've found
[52:30] Speaker 2: all of you guys now and everything. And I found
[52:32] Speaker 2: a site. Now I was joined a couple of sites
[52:36] Speaker 2: that had those negative nancies and I'm like, I'm not
[52:38] Speaker 2: going to do that. And I found a site and
[52:43] Speaker 2: one negative nancy. I reported it. The lady maybe five
[52:48] Speaker 2: minutes later, goes, we removed the guy. She goes, we
[52:51] Speaker 2: don't toleberate that. And I go, you know, I appreciate that.
[52:55] Speaker 2: I appreciate, you know, the sites that take action against
[52:59] Speaker 2: people that like to britecue people that have had experiences,
[53:03] Speaker 2: you know, and stuff, and so yeah, I mean it's
[53:07] Speaker 2: a fascinating, fascinating subject. It is.
[53:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much to the topic. There's something that
[53:15] Speaker 1: I just don't understand though, Brian. I've listened to you
[53:17] Speaker 1: share all these details about your experience and your wife's experience.
[53:23] Speaker 1: I'm wondering your wife was seven years old when she
[53:26] Speaker 1: had her encounter, but you said that you're a skeptic
[53:29] Speaker 1: until you had your own sighting. Does that mean you
[53:32] Speaker 1: didn't believe her when she told you about her siding
[53:35] Speaker 1: that she had when she was a kid.
[53:37] Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's a good question. So what she
[53:41] Speaker 2: told me about her story about her experiences. Okay, this
[53:46] Speaker 2: is way after I had my my my encounter. I
[53:49] Speaker 2: had my encounter, way before she told me about her story.
[53:56] Speaker 2: And so of course at that time, when she told
[53:59] Speaker 2: me about her story, it's like, Okay, you know, now
[54:03] Speaker 2: I do believe that, you know, I saw mine, and
[54:06] Speaker 2: so it's like cool, you know you had your experience too,
[54:11] Speaker 2: and I go, that's that's awesome. You know and stuff,
[54:14] Speaker 2: and so yeah. I mean if she would have told
[54:17] Speaker 2: me that story before I had my siding, I would
[54:22] Speaker 2: have probably been probably you did see a bear, you know.
[54:28] Speaker 2: But her telling me that after I had my sighting,
[54:34] Speaker 2: it's as like, yeah, and you know, both of us
[54:37] Speaker 2: had it during the day, you know, and hers being
[54:43] Speaker 2: that close was incredible, you know, and the details that
[54:47] Speaker 2: she said were incredible, you know. And come to that
[54:55] Speaker 2: subject of you know, I asked her did you feel threatened?
[55:02] Speaker 2: And she goes, no, I didn't. I've talked to a
[55:06] Speaker 2: few people about that subject of children running into these
[55:11] Speaker 2: creatures and done some research you know, on some some
[55:20] Speaker 2: some sidings, And there was a fascinating one in North Carolina.
[55:27] Speaker 2: We're a four year old boy went missing for a
[55:30] Speaker 2: few days in the woods and he came back unharmed,
[55:35] Speaker 2: and they asked him what happened and he goes, well,
[55:40] Speaker 2: some some people with hair took care of me, and
[55:47] Speaker 2: he was unharmed. So I'm wondering if bigfoots do not
[55:54] Speaker 2: feel threatened by children. That's when subject that I'm really
[56:01] Speaker 2: kind of getting into right now and doing research on.
[56:04] Speaker 2: Because she never felt threatened, He never did anything to her.
[56:08] Speaker 2: He just looked at her, grunted, Stiffedier looked around and
[56:12] Speaker 2: then took off and hit. So, I mean, it's it
[56:18] Speaker 2: is a fascinating subject. And you know, of course with
[56:24] Speaker 2: I've been hearing like Yeti's in Russia, you know, being
[56:29] Speaker 2: very aggressive, possibly killing people, you know. Yeah, I mean
[56:38] Speaker 2: just you know, I just watched a series on Discovery
[56:44] Speaker 2: Channel about you know, this cave in Utah with possible
[56:50] Speaker 2: human bones, you know, and these creatures that were inhabited
[56:57] Speaker 2: there that were possible bigfoots and so, yeah, it was
[57:02] Speaker 2: a cave in Utah that they found these human bones
[57:04] Speaker 2: and stuff. And they found, which was really remarkable was
[57:09] Speaker 2: these sandals that were made of you know, I don't
[57:16] Speaker 2: know what you call them out by the lakes or whatever,
[57:18] Speaker 2: the the grass or whatever. And they took these sandals
[57:25] Speaker 2: and they measured it with a footprint of a bigfoot
[57:28] Speaker 2: and it lined up, and I thought that was remarkable
[57:31] Speaker 2: as well. So these creatures are very very intelligent, very
[57:39] Speaker 2: They're not stupid. They're very intelligent. I mean they you know,
[57:44] Speaker 2: how to hide the tracks buried their dead, become invisible
[57:48] Speaker 2: when they want to. And the communication, uh is incredible
[57:54] Speaker 2: just hearing you know communications and so coming to that. Okay,
[58:02] Speaker 2: just so, just remembered this Red Feathered Lakes up in,
[58:07] Speaker 2: which is an hour from here, have gotten. I've done
[58:09] Speaker 2: investigations with my wife up there. Him and his buddy
[58:14] Speaker 2: and their three dogs were in a parking lot and
[58:19] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they said, it sounded like they
[58:22] Speaker 2: were surrounded by them. They heard the calls from east west, south,
[58:28] Speaker 2: north everything their dogs and this was that night, and
[58:35] Speaker 2: their dogs actually got freaked out and ran away, and
[58:39] Speaker 2: fortunately they did. They did find him the next day unharmed.
[58:46] Speaker 2: But I've yeah, I've I think the communication between bigfoots
[58:54] Speaker 2: are incredible because they do have their own language. I
[59:00] Speaker 2: talked to a gentleman up and read for the lakes
[59:02] Speaker 2: who saw one at a lake during the day, probably
[59:06] Speaker 2: about maybe seven feet tall, tannish hair, and he said, yeah,
[59:14] Speaker 2: they are definitely around this area. And that's another wooded
[59:17] Speaker 2: area that we've gone up to and investigated. And me
[59:21] Speaker 2: and my wife last summer went up there and we
[59:24] Speaker 2: did a day hike up there, and we did find
[59:29] Speaker 2: tree structures up there. No calls, but we did find
[59:34] Speaker 2: tree structures up there, and really the ones that we
[59:38] Speaker 2: found were more hidden deeper into the forest. And really
[59:47] Speaker 2: with bigfoots, with their structures and everything, did you like
[59:50] Speaker 2: to have them more deeper in the forest and everything
[59:57] Speaker 2: to you know, they kind of like to have their
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: own solitude. That's how I look at it. You know,
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: I've had plenty of experiences in the stage, and I'm
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: sure I'm gonna have plenty more. I mean coming up.
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: I mean, I am going to go back to Kosher
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: Trail here in the next couple of weeks to do
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: a follow up investigation. I am going to actually go
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: back up here in about a week here to talk
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: to Russell Accord and Cliff and actually Maria from Expedition
[1:00:32] Speaker 2: Bickfoot and so yeah, I mean I will keep you
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: updated on what comes next and our experiences.
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: Well, you know, I appreciate it. Considering how you beat
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: the bushes looking for these guys, I think you're probably
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: just starting. Who knows what kind of experiences are down
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: the road for you in Yeah, if you can let
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: us know about any new ones you have, we'd love
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: to hear about that. But having said that, thanks again
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: so much for coming on and sharing all these experiences
[1:01:00] Speaker 1: with this Brian. I really appreciate it.
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: Well, you are very welcome. Vic. It's been a pleasure
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: tonight telling you of all the experiences and everything. And
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: of course we're friends on Facebook here, and of course
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: you're going to be seeing my documentary on my page
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: that I'm about to shoot. I am kind of interested
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: a little bit about doing a show about Bigfoot. I
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: am kind of exploring my options about that, possibly doing
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: a Facebook YouTube show on bigfoot. So that's what I'm
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: kind of looking at right now. We are going to
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: be doing some paranormal investigations coming up as well too,
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: and so that's gonna coincide with our Bigfoot activities. But yes,
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: I will definitely keep you informed.
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: Well.
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks again so much for your time, Brian,
[1:01:52] Speaker 1: and have a great night.
[1:02:00] Speaker 3: That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
[1:02:07] Speaker 3: like to be a guest on the show, please go
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[1:02:18] Speaker 3: great night.

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