# Our Tribulation Bay Bigfoot Experience - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 521

An episode of [Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1176349237), 14 Jan 2026, 1 h 06 min.

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Tonight’s guests, Barabara Locke, Debi Porch, and Sandi Harris, are well-known Sasquatch investigators who investigate Sasquatch in areas a lot of investigators fear to tread. All three of them used to be terrified of Sasquatch but that’s definitely not the case now. They call their Sasquatch investigation group “Sisters of the Moon.” On tonight’s show, not only are they going to be talking about how they got their start when it comes to investigating the Sasquatch phenomenon, they’re also going to share notable experiences they’ve had, in the field, with you. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to them do that. Here are links to Barbara, Debi, and Sandi’s Facebook pages… Barbara… https://www.facebook.com/barbara.locke.52 Debi… https://www.facebook.com/debis Sandi… https://www.facebook.com/sandiharris.hiyke If you've had at least one Sasquatch sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. I'd love to hear from you. If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134 Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening!

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: If you've had a Bigfoot sighting and I would like
[0:02] Speaker 1: to be a guest, please go to bigfoot witness dot
[0:05] Speaker 1: com and let me know.
[0:08] Speaker 2: My name is Barbara Locke and I'm a member of
[0:11] Speaker 2: an all female Bigfoot research team called the Sisters of
[0:15] Speaker 2: the Moon. And I've been interested in bigfoot for a long, long,
[0:20] Speaker 2: long time, ever since I was young, young, not even
[0:24] Speaker 2: a teenager yet. And finally in two thousand and five,
[0:31] Speaker 2: I moved to a house in Lamar County, Texas that
[0:35] Speaker 2: I started having big put activity on. They were coming
[0:39] Speaker 2: to my house and I was just totally green and
[0:44] Speaker 2: didn't know anything about bigfoot and trying to learn on
[0:48] Speaker 2: my own. And that's when I finally met up with
[0:53] Speaker 2: a group that was going to have an expedition and
[0:56] Speaker 2: there were several of us females. So our group started
[0:59] Speaker 2: out as five, but it's only three now. But we
[1:03] Speaker 2: met at this expedition and we decided ten years ago
[1:08] Speaker 2: this month girls that we were going to have an
[1:12] Speaker 2: all female team. So we got together and we started
[1:17] Speaker 2: sharing ideas and learning and going out in the woods
[1:21] Speaker 2: and it was great. It was great learning experience because
[1:27] Speaker 2: I know my first time, I was scared to death
[1:29] Speaker 2: to go in the woods, because I just was absolutely
[1:31] Speaker 2: certain that of was going to eat me. So I
[1:35] Speaker 2: was scared. But we all overcame that, and now you
[1:39] Speaker 2: can't keep us out of the woods. That is our
[1:41] Speaker 2: adrenaline rush is to be getting ready to go on
[1:45] Speaker 2: to camping woods and be somewhere out in the woods
[1:47] Speaker 2: with a fire waiting on put to show up. But
[1:52] Speaker 2: I guess I could tell you about some of the
[1:56] Speaker 2: experiences at my home. And it started with things being
[2:02] Speaker 2: brought to me, just little things that first, horseshoe, maybe stones.
[2:09] Speaker 2: But one day I went home and I had a
[2:11] Speaker 2: deer leg throwed up on top of my head, not
[2:14] Speaker 2: my head, but my house. And I couldn't figure out
[2:18] Speaker 2: where the heck this thing come from. And it's not
[2:22] Speaker 2: like I had a lot of visitors come to my house,
[2:24] Speaker 2: but everybody came to my house. I asked them, did
[2:28] Speaker 2: you see that dear lick on my house? And everybody
[2:30] Speaker 2: looking like I'm crazy? No, why would I do such
[2:33] Speaker 2: a thing. Well, then I started having headless rapids show
[2:38] Speaker 2: up in my yard, and I'd had a few chickens
[2:41] Speaker 2: show up in my yard. So I had contacted a
[2:47] Speaker 2: lady with the b Orro and she came to my
[2:50] Speaker 2: house and kind of talked to me and was listening
[2:54] Speaker 2: to the things I was telling her, and she suggested
[2:57] Speaker 2: some things that I try, So I started doing those things.
[3:00] Speaker 2: And that was a stick game. I would stick put
[3:05] Speaker 2: sticks in my yard. Well, first I started putting them
[3:07] Speaker 2: in my pasture and I would put them all in
[3:11] Speaker 2: the same direction. Well, the next morning I could wake
[3:14] Speaker 2: up and go out in my front yard and it'd
[3:16] Speaker 2: be sticks laid the same way in my front yard.
[3:20] Speaker 2: I could go out in my pasture and turn these
[3:22] Speaker 2: sticks entirely different ways. And the next morning, wake up
[3:26] Speaker 2: and go on my front yard and those sticks are
[3:28] Speaker 2: turned the same way as I was. That was just
[3:31] Speaker 2: amazing to me. I have heard chatter outside my window,
[3:37] Speaker 2: bedroom window. I didn't know what it was, had no
[3:40] Speaker 2: clue that could even had a language, but I heard it.
[3:45] Speaker 2: I heard the howls outside my house. I had my
[3:50] Speaker 2: son at one time was staying in my back bedroom
[3:54] Speaker 2: and he had a bad habit of sleeping with his
[3:57] Speaker 2: bedroom window open. He had some television that were sitting
[4:01] Speaker 2: on the table in front of this window. And it's
[4:04] Speaker 2: like two o'clock in the morning, and I just hear
[4:06] Speaker 2: this horrible commotion going on in his bedroom. Crap just
[4:10] Speaker 2: hitting the floor, just sounded like it's fighting somebody in there. Really,
[4:15] Speaker 2: so I yelled at him and turning to go back
[4:18] Speaker 2: to sleep. The next morning, he comes in the kitchen.
[4:21] Speaker 2: He said, Mama, He said, that wasn't me making all
[4:25] Speaker 2: that noise. Something reached through my window and pushed those
[4:27] Speaker 2: televisions in the set in the floor. So it's like, WHOA. Okay.
[4:34] Speaker 2: So I was having things going on in my home
[4:38] Speaker 2: and that was a little hard to kind of accept
[4:41] Speaker 2: at first because it was really scary. But I learned
[4:46] Speaker 2: after a while that they were interested in me, and
[4:49] Speaker 2: I was interested in them back, and we had we
[4:53] Speaker 2: had finally come to recognize that each one of us
[4:57] Speaker 2: knew the other one was there. One time, I took
[5:02] Speaker 2: a piece of coffee paper, like you put in a
[5:06] Speaker 2: coffee machine, just blank, and on one side of this
[5:10] Speaker 2: coffee paper, I draw a stick woman with pigtails. I
[5:15] Speaker 2: used to wear pigtails, and I had a stick dog,
[5:19] Speaker 2: and a stick kitty cat, and a stick bunny rabbit
[5:22] Speaker 2: all on this page with me. I turned the page
[5:25] Speaker 2: over and on the back of it, I draw a
[5:29] Speaker 2: stick bigfoot, big hands, big beet, big head, hair sticking
[5:34] Speaker 2: out all over it. I take this picture out into
[5:37] Speaker 2: my pasture to a bush by the pond, and I
[5:42] Speaker 2: lay it on the ground with the side up that's
[5:44] Speaker 2: of me and my animals, and I put a stick
[5:47] Speaker 2: through it so it won't blow away. The next morning
[5:51] Speaker 2: when I go out there, this piece of paper has
[5:53] Speaker 2: been taken up put on the other side of the
[5:57] Speaker 2: bush with the bigfoot side, and the stick is on it.
[6:02] Speaker 2: And that just blew me away, because I never, in
[6:06] Speaker 2: my wildest dreams ever thought big food was capable of
[6:12] Speaker 2: doing something like this. I didn't think they were smart
[6:16] Speaker 2: like that. I've learned. I've learned a lot, and I
[6:22] Speaker 2: just had these amazing, amazing years. I lived there seventeen years.
[6:27] Speaker 2: I sold that house almost five years ago, and I
[6:31] Speaker 2: miss him. So that's my big Foot beginning.
[6:38] Speaker 3: Well, my name is Debbie Porche and I lived in
[6:42] Speaker 3: Tennessee with my husband Larry, originally from East Texas. Lived
[6:47] Speaker 3: there pretty much all my life until I got married.
[6:51] Speaker 4: And moved to Tennessee.
[6:53] Speaker 3: And I actually grew up in a little community called Malta, Texas,
[6:59] Speaker 3: which is between Decab and New Boston about thirty miles
[7:03] Speaker 3: from texture Cana, Texas, which is on the Arkansas state
[7:06] Speaker 3: line also, and that's where my bigfoot fascination, I guess began.
[7:14] Speaker 3: When I was a very young teenager living there in Malta.
[7:19] Speaker 3: My mama was sick with cancer, and so everything I did,
[7:23] Speaker 3: I pretty much did with my daddy. After all that
[7:29] Speaker 3: happened with my mama, and she was actually in the
[7:32] Speaker 3: front room of our house in her bedroom because she
[7:37] Speaker 3: was sick, and my daddy and I had been outside.
[7:42] Speaker 3: I ran around everywhere with him. I was his little
[7:46] Speaker 3: boy pretty much back then, you know. I followed him
[7:50] Speaker 3: around and he let me and we were outside and
[7:55] Speaker 3: we started seeing strange things around the property. We lived
[7:58] Speaker 3: in the woods and my mama lived next door to us,
[8:03] Speaker 3: and so we had noticed some strange things had been
[8:06] Speaker 3: moved around and just you know, not normal. And then
[8:11] Speaker 3: one day our dog got killed and out on the
[8:16] Speaker 3: dirt road, and so Daddy took her since it was
[8:20] Speaker 3: late in the evening, and had put her in a
[8:23] Speaker 3: garbage can basically and put the lid on it a
[8:26] Speaker 3: metal garbage can, put the lid on it so no
[8:29] Speaker 3: other animals would get to her. Put a big, heavy
[8:32] Speaker 3: rock on top of it, and he said, tomorrow, when
[8:36] Speaker 3: the sun comes back out, then we'll just go ahead
[8:39] Speaker 3: and bury her. And so, you know, I was upset
[8:43] Speaker 3: and everything, and we went in the house and he
[8:47] Speaker 3: calmed me down. And so the next day I was
[8:50] Speaker 3: going to help my daddy barrier because I was his
[8:54] Speaker 3: right hand man. Basically I followed him around everywhere. So
[8:57] Speaker 3: we'd go back out there to that garbage can. He
[9:00] Speaker 3: tastes that big ol' heavy rock out and she's gone.
[9:05] Speaker 3: The dog's not in there anymore. And he looked at
[9:08] Speaker 3: me and he said, what'd you do with her? And
[9:10] Speaker 3: I said, I didn't. I didn't do anything, Daddy, I
[9:13] Speaker 3: didn't get her. And he said, well, you know, he
[9:16] Speaker 3: just didn't understand what in the world was going on.
[9:19] Speaker 3: I didn't know, and he thought that maybe an animal
[9:22] Speaker 3: had got her. But at the same time, that garbage
[9:26] Speaker 3: can lid was still on top of that garbage can,
[9:28] Speaker 3: and that big old heavy rock was sitting on top
[9:30] Speaker 3: of that garbage can too, and so we never could
[9:34] Speaker 3: explain that. And then we had some other things start happening.
[9:40] Speaker 3: And then one night when we were out hanging Christmas lights,
[9:43] Speaker 3: you know, of course this was a while later, we
[9:46] Speaker 3: were on the front porch hanging Christmas lights, and coming
[9:50] Speaker 3: down to our left from that dirt road, we heard
[9:54] Speaker 3: this just scream, moan, growl.
[9:58] Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't know how.
[9:59] Speaker 3: To describe it really back then, but we had never
[10:01] Speaker 3: heard anything like that, and it sounded like it was
[10:04] Speaker 3: coming down the dirt road. And so my daddy said
[10:10] Speaker 3: he could tell I was unnerved.
[10:12] Speaker 4: You know, I was just a kid. He could tell
[10:14] Speaker 4: I was unnerved.
[10:15] Speaker 3: And so he said, oh, that's probably one of miss
[10:18] Speaker 3: clay Shulty's chickens over there.
[10:20] Speaker 4: I said, Daddy, that didn't sound.
[10:22] Speaker 3: Like any chicken. And he said, well, that's all right.
[10:25] Speaker 3: Let's just keep on working and get these lights done with.
[10:28] Speaker 3: And so we worked our ways down a little bit
[10:31] Speaker 3: and we got to about the middle of the front
[10:34] Speaker 3: porch and we heard it again, but this time it
[10:37] Speaker 3: was closer. And so now I'm getting really nervous and
[10:41] Speaker 3: scared because it was getting closer to us, and so
[10:44] Speaker 3: I tear up a little bit, and I'm like, Daddy,
[10:46] Speaker 3: let's go in the house.
[10:47] Speaker 4: And he said, well, you go on in there.
[10:49] Speaker 3: My mama was, you know, in there in the front
[10:51] Speaker 3: room since she was sick and I was like, no, Daddy,
[10:55] Speaker 3: I'm not going to leave you out here.
[10:57] Speaker 4: And so then with then just no time, we heard
[11:01] Speaker 4: it the third.
[11:01] Speaker 3: Time, and this time it sounded like it was just
[11:03] Speaker 3: right down in our car port and the light was off.
[11:07] Speaker 3: You know, we only had the porch light, and so
[11:09] Speaker 3: we couldn't really see into our It was like it
[11:12] Speaker 3: wasn't really even a car port. It was just a
[11:14] Speaker 3: little thing you drove under, and it was open on
[11:17] Speaker 3: all sides. And so when we heard that, I just
[11:21] Speaker 3: started bawling, and Daddy literally pushes me into the front
[11:27] Speaker 3: door into the house. Well, like I said, my mama
[11:32] Speaker 3: was sick, and so she was in that front room
[11:34] Speaker 3: and I go in that a way, and he goes
[11:37] Speaker 3: in the opposite direction through another room and he heads
[11:41] Speaker 3: into his little room where he went to get his gun.
[11:45] Speaker 3: And then he comes back out and my mama is
[11:47] Speaker 3: already asking me what's going on because I'm crying and
[11:52] Speaker 3: I'm trying to make these sounds.
[11:54] Speaker 4: That we had heard out there.
[11:56] Speaker 3: And then she sees my daddy come through the room
[11:59] Speaker 3: with a gun, and she's like, oh my god, what's
[12:02] Speaker 3: going on? And all I'm saying is there's a monster outside.
[12:06] Speaker 3: Because that's literally what it sounded like. And I had
[12:08] Speaker 3: never heard that sound before in my life. Well, he
[12:14] Speaker 3: goes around the house with a flashlight, and I'm following
[12:18] Speaker 3: him from room to room, looking out my windows and
[12:21] Speaker 3: or you know, the windows in the house, and making
[12:24] Speaker 3: sure nothing got him while he was out there. And
[12:27] Speaker 3: I was petrified. And so he comes back in and
[12:31] Speaker 3: he said, I didn't see anything.
[12:32] Speaker 4: I didn't see anything.
[12:34] Speaker 3: And she told me to go call my aunt who
[12:37] Speaker 3: had lived there in the country her whole life, and
[12:42] Speaker 3: I made that sound on the phone to her and
[12:45] Speaker 3: she said, oh, honey, that was probably just one of
[12:47] Speaker 3: Miss clay Shilty's bulls down there. And that was our neighbor,
[12:51] Speaker 3: the old lady that lived across the street from us.
[12:53] Speaker 3: So that kind of sued our nerves for that evening. Well,
[12:58] Speaker 3: it just so happened that Miss clay Silty was also
[13:01] Speaker 3: the lady that would come down and give my mama
[13:04] Speaker 3: her pain shots whenever she was in pain.
[13:07] Speaker 4: You know, she had cancer, so she was going through
[13:10] Speaker 4: quite a bit.
[13:12] Speaker 3: And that next day, Miss clay Shilty had come down
[13:15] Speaker 3: to the house and uh, my daddy called me in
[13:19] Speaker 3: there and he had told Miss clay shilty that, you know,
[13:24] Speaker 3: he said, miss Clay Shuilty, your bulls, you know, your
[13:27] Speaker 3: bulls sure gave me me and Debbie scared last night.
[13:31] Speaker 3: And she's rocking and she says, well, what do you mean,
[13:34] Speaker 3: mister Bob, And he says, Debbie, make that sound we
[13:38] Speaker 3: heard for her. And so I'm standing there making this
[13:41] Speaker 3: roar and moan and growl sound.
[13:43] Speaker 4: Altogether the best I could.
[13:46] Speaker 3: And she gets this really concerned look on her face
[13:49] Speaker 3: and just kind of stops rocking, and she said, oh,
[13:51] Speaker 3: mister Bob, I wish you hadn't told me that, because
[13:55] Speaker 3: all of my bulls are down in Decab being bred
[13:57] Speaker 3: right now. She said, as a matter of fact, something's
[14:00] Speaker 3: been getting my chickens. And so, you know, we didn't
[14:05] Speaker 3: know anything about bigfoot. We had never heard the term
[14:10] Speaker 3: bigfoot or anything like that. But thirty miles from us
[14:15] Speaker 3: on the Texas Arkansas state line was Falk, Arkansas, and
[14:20] Speaker 3: we had heard of this creature that we called the
[14:24] Speaker 3: fount Monster back then, which is now known as a Bigfoot.
[14:30] Speaker 3: And we thought, well, there's no way, you know, it
[14:34] Speaker 3: would come all the way here, because you know, there
[14:37] Speaker 3: was only one. But we know better now and we
[14:42] Speaker 3: know that what they called the fount monster back then
[14:46] Speaker 3: is what we now call Bigfoot. And so that's that's
[14:52] Speaker 3: how my fascination with these creatures began, because through the
[14:58] Speaker 3: years I just started re you know, kept researching and looking,
[15:01] Speaker 3: and then when we got computers and everything, you could
[15:05] Speaker 3: start hearing the sounds that they actually made. And that's
[15:10] Speaker 3: when we heard the sounds that we had heard that
[15:14] Speaker 3: night there in Malta, and so that's what started it
[15:17] Speaker 3: for me.
[15:19] Speaker 5: My name is Sandy and I live in southeast Georgia.
[15:23] Speaker 5: I've been here pretty much my whole life, and I
[15:28] Speaker 5: am definitely interested in Bigfoot. I could say that I
[15:32] Speaker 5: used to be petrified, but it doesn't scare me so
[15:35] Speaker 5: much anymore. It's pretty much like Barbara saonn adrenaline rush
[15:41] Speaker 5: for me. Whenever we go out there and we have
[15:43] Speaker 5: anything happen. It's what we go for. We want the experiences.
[15:48] Speaker 5: But what started me in it is I lived in
[15:51] Speaker 5: this little town called Odham, Georgia, and I had a
[15:55] Speaker 5: house that was right outside the edge of town. There
[15:58] Speaker 5: was a creek by it, and I had some little dogs.
[16:03] Speaker 5: I had a dotson and a little shihuaha and my
[16:08] Speaker 5: son at the time, was still living at home and
[16:12] Speaker 5: I had asked him to take the dogs outside for
[16:14] Speaker 5: me to go potty, and he had let him out
[16:18] Speaker 5: and he was sitting out there on the patio while
[16:20] Speaker 5: the dogs were running around in the backyard doing a
[16:23] Speaker 5: little thing. And the next thing I know, I'm walking
[16:26] Speaker 5: through the living room and he's busting through the door
[16:30] Speaker 5: with the dogs and he said, Mom, don't go out there.
[16:34] Speaker 5: There's something out there. I said, what are you talking about?
[16:37] Speaker 5: And he said, there is something behind the shop of
[16:41] Speaker 5: our piece of land.
[16:42] Speaker 6: He said that.
[16:43] Speaker 5: It just made the loudest war I have ever heard.
[16:46] Speaker 5: He said, Mom, don't go out there. I said, well,
[16:49] Speaker 5: I won't.
[16:49] Speaker 6: I won't.
[16:51] Speaker 5: So I went and go try to wake up my
[16:53] Speaker 5: husband and couldn't get him up because I want him
[16:55] Speaker 5: to go check it out. So I said, well, I
[16:57] Speaker 5: guess we just want to go back out there tonight. Well,
[17:00] Speaker 5: curiosity got the best of me because my son, he
[17:04] Speaker 5: was a teenager, but nothing really rattled him a whole lot.
[17:08] Speaker 5: He was really level headed. He was a very level
[17:11] Speaker 5: headed kid. For something to shake him up, it really
[17:13] Speaker 5: spiked interest on my part and a couple of days later,
[17:18] Speaker 5: I was on a computer and he was home, and
[17:21] Speaker 5: I was pulling up these different hows and growls, and
[17:26] Speaker 5: I pulled up everything I could think of, and I said,
[17:28] Speaker 5: come here, son, Come here, son. And he couldn't see
[17:30] Speaker 5: the screen, he couldn't see what I was actually listening to.
[17:34] Speaker 5: And I pulled up a Bobcat scream. I said, was
[17:37] Speaker 5: that what you heard? And he said no, because we
[17:40] Speaker 5: do have Bobcats andrey he said, Mom, it wasn't nothing
[17:42] Speaker 5: like that. He said, what I heard was a lot
[17:44] Speaker 5: more powerful sounding than that. I pulled up a bear growl.
[17:49] Speaker 5: I mean, you name it. If I could find an
[17:52] Speaker 5: animal sound with a scream, I pulled it up. Well,
[17:55] Speaker 5: I didn't think much of it, but there was one
[17:57] Speaker 5: that was set a bigfoot screen and I clicked on it.
[18:02] Speaker 5: Didn't even tell him what I had clicked on, and
[18:04] Speaker 5: all he could do was hear the audio of it.
[18:07] Speaker 6: And he said, that's it, Mom, that's it. He said,
[18:09] Speaker 6: what is that thing? And I said, you're not going
[18:13] Speaker 6: to believe me what I tell you.
[18:14] Speaker 5: He said, well, what is it? I said, it says
[18:17] Speaker 5: it's a bigfoot screen. Well, that absolutely spiked my interests.
[18:23] Speaker 5: I called my sister, told her what happened. And by
[18:25] Speaker 5: the way, Barbara's my actual sister. We are blood sisters,
[18:31] Speaker 5: and she and I both got really interested in.
[18:35] Speaker 6: It at that point and I've not let it go since.
[18:38] Speaker 5: That's how I started going out with Debbie and Barbara
[18:42] Speaker 5: and some others and any opportunity we've had to go
[18:46] Speaker 5: to meet and greet, so we've done that. We've had
[18:48] Speaker 5: so many wonderful experiences and it's just been a phenomenal
[18:55] Speaker 5: ride with these two ladies, and we have been very
[18:58] Speaker 5: fortunate and very blessed with some of the things that
[19:01] Speaker 5: we have encountered while we've been out on our trips.
[19:04] Speaker 5: So that's how I got started. It was from a
[19:06] Speaker 5: growl outside my house with my son.
[19:09] Speaker 1: Well, that's one heck of an introduction to the world
[19:12] Speaker 1: of bigfoot. Yeah, it is all right, ladies, Please tell
[19:16] Speaker 1: us about an experience you all had together.
[19:18] Speaker 2: Now, Well, my favorite one to always tell kind of
[19:25] Speaker 2: needs to be told after another story, but I'll go
[19:28] Speaker 2: ahead and tell it because most everybody has heard about
[19:32] Speaker 2: the jibbers that Debbie collected. I think it was in
[19:37] Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, Sandy and myself and my niece Stephanie went
[19:42] Speaker 2: to Jefferson, Texas to attend the Bigfoot conference, and we
[19:47] Speaker 2: had camped out by the lickord the pines and a
[19:51] Speaker 2: place where we weren't supposed to be, but we didn't
[19:53] Speaker 2: know it, and we were. It had been raining and
[19:57] Speaker 2: we'd had a really hard time getting a fire started,
[20:01] Speaker 2: but finally we got the fire started, and my tent
[20:05] Speaker 2: had like a little overhang on the front, just enough
[20:07] Speaker 2: for us to put our chairs and not be sitting
[20:10] Speaker 2: in the rain, and the fire was just right in
[20:12] Speaker 2: front of us. And we're sitting there and I look
[20:16] Speaker 2: at my knees and I say, hey, you want to
[20:19] Speaker 2: hear be put talk? She goes yeah. So I played
[20:23] Speaker 2: this recording that Debbie had sent me, and as soon
[20:28] Speaker 2: as it finished playing, I played it one more time. Well,
[20:32] Speaker 2: as soon as it stopped, there was all kind of
[20:36] Speaker 2: commotion behind us. There were all of a sudden, there
[20:39] Speaker 2: was read loud boom boom boom, And we're sitting there
[20:47] Speaker 2: and we can feel, we can feel something coming up
[20:50] Speaker 2: behind us, and I'm looking at Sandy and I'm looking
[20:53] Speaker 2: at stepping in and I'm looking at Sandy like I don't
[20:56] Speaker 2: know what sticks in to happen. Because we were still
[20:59] Speaker 2: really relatively knew it going out into the woods, and
[21:03] Speaker 2: then we've got something coming up behind us. And when
[21:07] Speaker 2: it gets up the side of us, there were two
[21:09] Speaker 2: little trees we kind of had our tent tied off to,
[21:13] Speaker 2: and it one on each side, took each tree and
[21:17] Speaker 2: shook all the water out and just poured the water
[21:19] Speaker 2: all over the tent, and then they curved off and
[21:23] Speaker 2: went in the woods and left. What was so interesting
[21:28] Speaker 2: to us about this, besides getting the crap scared out
[21:32] Speaker 2: of us, was we were wondering did they understand that
[21:38] Speaker 2: language that I just played, because it seemed like they had.
[21:44] Speaker 2: Because our thinking on the first time we heard the
[21:47] Speaker 2: gibberish was that it was possibly an adult that came
[21:52] Speaker 2: in our camp to make two juveniles leave and he
[21:56] Speaker 2: was stoken them. Well, I think that that particular night
[22:03] Speaker 2: thought the same thing. Some a more powerful maybe befut
[22:08] Speaker 2: had come into camp and was stolen them and telling
[22:10] Speaker 2: them to lead, because they did, and we didn't have
[22:14] Speaker 2: nothing else happen at all that night. And that's one
[22:18] Speaker 2: of my favorite stories.
[22:20] Speaker 1: Ill bet that made an impression on you.
[22:22] Speaker 2: It did. Yeah, we were going to stay another night,
[22:28] Speaker 2: but we got run off by the corp of Engineers
[22:32] Speaker 2: they said we couldn't camp there.
[22:35] Speaker 1: It does make you wonder if they go, if they
[22:38] Speaker 1: knew what was going on and they ran you off
[22:40] Speaker 1: because they didn't want you to have any experiences, or
[22:43] Speaker 1: maybe it was a genuine, honest reason. I guess we're
[22:46] Speaker 1: never going to know.
[22:48] Speaker 4: Well.
[22:49] Speaker 2: I think it was because it was a conference. People
[22:52] Speaker 2: were just looking for everywhere to camp, you know, camping,
[22:56] Speaker 2: and they don't want you to do that. They want
[22:59] Speaker 2: you to be in a dig signated area at the camp,
[23:01] Speaker 2: but that's not our style.
[23:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, that does make sense. I mean if they did
[23:06] Speaker 1: let you stay there, then that probably would open up
[23:08] Speaker 1: the floodgates the whole It would be crowded with campers.
[23:11] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[23:12] Speaker 2: Then we found out after I called our takes Debbie
[23:17] Speaker 2: at first, telling her about it because she wasn't whether.
[23:19] Speaker 2: She's on another trip with her husband Larry, and I
[23:22] Speaker 2: was telling her about what happened, and she happened to
[23:25] Speaker 2: be with another couple that had researched there and they
[23:28] Speaker 2: knew for the fact there had been sightings in that spot.
[23:34] Speaker 2: So that was an exciting night.
[23:36] Speaker 1: It was I bet it was. I bet they got
[23:39] Speaker 1: your motors running it?
[23:40] Speaker 2: Did it?
[23:42] Speaker 6: Did?
[23:43] Speaker 2: It was awesome.
[23:44] Speaker 1: I bet it was.
[23:46] Speaker 2: That was an adrenaline pumping night.
[23:48] Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure it was. I don't doubt that at all.
[23:51] Speaker 1: I can see why. Well, whatever experiences you want to
[23:55] Speaker 1: put out there for us, I know you've had so many.
[23:58] Speaker 1: Please just start picking experienceances that you'd like to share
[24:01] Speaker 1: and tell us all about them.
[24:04] Speaker 5: One of my favorite is we were all at Tribulation
[24:08] Speaker 5: Bay and it was freezing cold. I mean it was cold.
[24:15] Speaker 5: We were by a big lake, the wind was blowing.
[24:18] Speaker 5: I think it might have been twenty eight degrees with
[24:21] Speaker 5: the wind blowing, if that explains how cold a night
[24:24] Speaker 5: it was. And Debbie had her tent set up across
[24:29] Speaker 5: from the one men Barbara was staying in, but we
[24:33] Speaker 5: just wasn't getting good vibes that night. There had been
[24:36] Speaker 5: some things that had happened. Barbara was sitting underneath the
[24:40] Speaker 5: tent and me and Debbie were kind of setting facing
[24:44] Speaker 5: Barbara right at the tent, and me and Debbie kept
[24:47] Speaker 5: hearing sounded like murder sounds out in the woods, but
[24:51] Speaker 5: there was no way there was. It sounded like a
[24:54] Speaker 5: semi engine or something. It was out loud, but there
[24:57] Speaker 5: was no way a truck I could have went where
[25:01] Speaker 5: we went. We had a hard time getting down there
[25:04] Speaker 5: in regular sized vehicles. There's no way a sim I
[25:06] Speaker 5: could have been down there. But it sounded like an
[25:08] Speaker 5: engine like that.
[25:09] Speaker 6: Like a roar, like a ooh. And whenever we.
[25:17] Speaker 5: Set up camp, we always put around little Christmas lights,
[25:22] Speaker 5: and it helps us to see if something walks near
[25:26] Speaker 5: our tent. Some people say you don't need to do that.
[25:29] Speaker 5: I disagree. I think if you do that, you've got
[25:33] Speaker 5: a better chance of seeing things when they come upon us.
[25:36] Speaker 5: And this is exactly what happened that night. Me and
[25:40] Speaker 5: Debbie kept getting up and going and kind of standing
[25:43] Speaker 5: behind the tent because we kept hearing things. We kept
[25:46] Speaker 5: hearing odd things, and Debbie got the you know, weird vibes,
[25:53] Speaker 5: and she decided that she was going to bring her
[25:55] Speaker 5: bed and come over and just stay with the tent
[25:57] Speaker 5: with me and Barbara and Debbie don't scare easy, but
[26:00] Speaker 5: I agreed with her. I felt better with her stand
[26:02] Speaker 5: when me and Barbara and all of us being in
[26:04] Speaker 5: the same tent that night, well, we had decided it
[26:09] Speaker 5: was time to go to bed. It was probably, I
[26:11] Speaker 5: don't know, twelve thirty ish one o'clock in the morning,
[26:16] Speaker 5: we had been out there and kept hearing things and
[26:19] Speaker 5: kept just sitting around the fires that we tried to
[26:23] Speaker 5: keep going, but it was getting really cold, and Barbara
[26:27] Speaker 5: had some good heaters that we could crank up inside
[26:30] Speaker 5: the tent, and she had done so, and Debbie set
[26:33] Speaker 5: up her bed, and Barbara got in her bed, and
[26:36] Speaker 5: I got in my little bed, and we decided to
[26:40] Speaker 5: call it a night. Well, I was facing the tent wall,
[26:45] Speaker 5: and we had a couple of chairs propped up next
[26:48] Speaker 5: to the tent that we had flolded up, and when
[26:52] Speaker 5: I was facing the tent wall, I was not aware
[26:54] Speaker 5: that Debbie was facing the exact same way I was.
[26:58] Speaker 5: And we had just laid down, probably hadn't laid down
[27:01] Speaker 5: five minutes, and I was just laying there looking and
[27:05] Speaker 5: something walked by the tent and you could see the
[27:08] Speaker 5: shadow of it, and it was taller than the shadow
[27:11] Speaker 5: was taller than the tent, and it bumped into the chairs,
[27:15] Speaker 5: and I know, my mouth flew open and I was like,
[27:18] Speaker 5: oh my god, I don't believe I just seen this.
[27:20] Speaker 5: And then confirmation was it bumped the chairs that we
[27:24] Speaker 5: had propped out there, and I turned my head real
[27:27] Speaker 5: quickly and Debbie was looking in the same direction and
[27:30] Speaker 5: I voiced it to her. I didn't say it out loud,
[27:33] Speaker 5: did you see that? And she looked at me and
[27:37] Speaker 5: nodded yes. I went, oh, my god, it was upright
[27:42] Speaker 5: on two feet, know that? And it was freezing cold. Well,
[27:49] Speaker 5: Barbara was over there. She was, I guess, really cold,
[27:52] Speaker 5: and she had the blankets covered up on top of
[27:54] Speaker 5: her head and we couldn't tell what end she was on,
[27:57] Speaker 5: and I motioned for Debbie to look.
[28:00] Speaker 6: Barbara know what was going on.
[28:01] Speaker 5: We had action going on outside, and Debby kind of
[28:05] Speaker 5: scooted over there and had to locate what end her
[28:08] Speaker 5: head was on, and Barbara said, yes, she had heard
[28:10] Speaker 5: the bump. Well that got us all routed up and
[28:14] Speaker 5: got us excited, because that's what we're there for, is
[28:17] Speaker 5: our experiences. And that was just the beginning of a
[28:22] Speaker 5: long night. We had some tubs with cooking utensils and
[28:29] Speaker 5: all right there and out underneath the tent, not inside
[28:33] Speaker 5: the tent with us, but on the outside of the tent.
[28:36] Speaker 5: Something kept trying to grab one of those containers and
[28:41] Speaker 5: pull it, but it couldn't quite get a grip on it.
[28:45] Speaker 5: And where it was we couldn't see. It was like
[28:47] Speaker 5: in the corner where you could not see what it
[28:50] Speaker 5: was doing, but you could hear it. It sounded like it
[28:52] Speaker 5: was almost trying to pull it over gravel.
[28:55] Speaker 6: And it did this.
[28:56] Speaker 5: I don't know how many times, and it would be like.
[29:00] Speaker 6: That's the ruh it was.
[29:08] Speaker 5: We knew it was out there, but you couldn't see it,
[29:11] Speaker 5: which makes it incredibly frustrating. We'd even unzip the tops
[29:16] Speaker 5: and try to peek out through the top layer of
[29:19] Speaker 5: the tent. Couldn't see anything. Jick, when I tell you
[29:22] Speaker 5: this went on, it would not stop it. I mean
[29:26] Speaker 5: we were in there, even talking, and it did not
[29:29] Speaker 5: scare whatever it was away. It was determined it was
[29:32] Speaker 5: going to get into those tubs.
[29:35] Speaker 2: It could see us. I mean a heater put off light.
[29:38] Speaker 2: He could see us jumping around in there. Light squirrel. Yeah.
[29:43] Speaker 5: And Barbara finally was just getting irritated with the whole situation,
[29:49] Speaker 5: and she said.
[29:51] Speaker 6: Get out of here and leave us alone.
[29:53] Speaker 5: And me and Debbie kind of looked at each other like,
[29:55] Speaker 5: oh gosh, the in this mirror, it's fixing to come
[29:58] Speaker 5: in this tent and rip us apart.
[30:00] Speaker 6: But it did.
[30:01] Speaker 5: Now, this is while we know. It just wasn't some
[30:05] Speaker 5: repetitive noise out of nowhere.
[30:07] Speaker 6: It stopped.
[30:09] Speaker 5: It did not do that for probably a ten or
[30:12] Speaker 5: fifteen minute break.
[30:13] Speaker 6: Well we thought it was gone.
[30:14] Speaker 5: We said, well, whatever it was, Barbara scared it off
[30:17] Speaker 5: and we're still alive, We're still breathing.
[30:22] Speaker 6: But it started back up again.
[30:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought I'd killed them, that for sure. That night,
[30:27] Speaker 2: vig a big foot.
[30:30] Speaker 6: Ye, Barbara yelled at Bigfoot.
[30:33] Speaker 2: Actually I told him to get that blew out of here. Yeah,
[30:39] Speaker 2: he had for a little while, and they're looking at me.
[30:42] Speaker 2: They got eyes of big around his teacups.
[30:44] Speaker 6: As this is end. This is how we're going out
[30:49] Speaker 6: of the world tonight.
[30:50] Speaker 5: Yeah, I had, but that was a very rememberable experience.
[30:59] Speaker 5: We've hadn't been but we haven't brought that one up
[31:02] Speaker 5: in a while, so I thought it was worth mentioning again.
[31:05] Speaker 5: But this went on Godley, Hell Long girls, three or
[31:10] Speaker 5: four o'clock in the morning.
[31:12] Speaker 6: Missing around the chest.
[31:14] Speaker 2: It was out at my pickup. I had a tarp
[31:17] Speaker 2: over some firewood in the back of my pickup, and
[31:19] Speaker 2: it would be out there raising that tarp up and down,
[31:22] Speaker 2: or you could hear it flipping the door handles it
[31:27] Speaker 2: hung around for a while.
[31:30] Speaker 6: Yeah, that was that was quite the experience.
[31:35] Speaker 5: It was frightening and exciting all at the same time.
[31:41] Speaker 5: We hadn't really been doing it a whole long at
[31:44] Speaker 5: that point yet. We've probably been a group, what maybe
[31:47] Speaker 5: a year or two at the most.
[31:50] Speaker 2: We were in ours second year at the beginning of
[31:53] Speaker 2: second year.
[31:54] Speaker 6: Yeah, it was pretty frightening.
[31:57] Speaker 5: Now, Debbie has had some experiences, we've had a lot
[32:00] Speaker 5: more in Arkansas, all kinds of places, but we just
[32:05] Speaker 5: we haven't mentioned that one in a while, and it
[32:07] Speaker 5: was worth mentioning for sure, Gail to tell us the story.
[32:13] Speaker 3: Well, I'll I'll talk about Tribulation Bay too, because that's
[32:18] Speaker 3: where the gibberish was recorded.
[32:21] Speaker 4: And uh, that's my most memorable thing.
[32:25] Speaker 3: Actually, we we were out there camping and uh, it
[32:34] Speaker 3: was me and another girl and we were waiting for
[32:37] Speaker 3: Barbara was supposed to arrive the next day. And this
[32:43] Speaker 3: is at Tribulation Bay that both of them have talked about,
[32:48] Speaker 3: which is in Oklahoma.
[32:50] Speaker 4: And I decided to.
[32:53] Speaker 3: Go back kind of up a hill, uh, back where
[32:57] Speaker 3: it was more heavily wooded to hang out call recorders,
[33:01] Speaker 3: and so I had zip tied them to some trees
[33:05] Speaker 3: back there. And while I was back there hanging up
[33:12] Speaker 3: one of them, I had already hung up one and
[33:15] Speaker 3: had moved down a little ways and was putting the
[33:18] Speaker 3: other one up. I heard something that sounded like my name.
[33:25] Speaker 3: Now this was I believe the second day I had
[33:27] Speaker 3: been there, because Barbara, I think you were already there,
[33:30] Speaker 3: weren't you. I thought it was a cough, and but
[33:36] Speaker 3: it's because it sounded like a cough to me. It
[33:38] Speaker 3: sounded like a two syllable cough. And so I said
[33:42] Speaker 3: something while I was zip tied in that recorder to
[33:45] Speaker 3: the tree, and I said, there's miss Barbara, because she
[33:48] Speaker 3: had been coughing.
[33:48] Speaker 4: While we were out there.
[33:50] Speaker 3: And then I turned, I said Barbara, and she didn't answer,
[33:54] Speaker 3: and then I said Barbara, real loud, and she said
[33:57] Speaker 3: what And I said did you cough?
[33:59] Speaker 4: And she said no? And I said, well, did anybody cough?
[34:04] Speaker 4: And it was no.
[34:07] Speaker 3: And so then I realized that what I had heard
[34:11] Speaker 3: was nobody that we were there with, and so, and
[34:14] Speaker 3: it was pretty sounded pretty close to me, and so
[34:17] Speaker 3: I said, well, hold on just a minute, and I
[34:20] Speaker 3: held it down the hill back into camp. And so
[34:26] Speaker 3: now prior to that we had had on Mount the
[34:31] Speaker 3: night before before Barbara and the other girl had arrived.
[34:37] Speaker 4: And so fast forward later on.
[34:41] Speaker 3: I'm going through the audio once I get back home,
[34:45] Speaker 3: and I hear on the recorder what sounds like a
[34:50] Speaker 3: language from the previous night, and it's just to me,
[34:55] Speaker 3: it just sounded like gibberish, like.
[34:57] Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bla
[35:00] Speaker 4: black but it's this sound that I had never heard before.
[35:06] Speaker 3: And so of course, you know, I call all the
[35:08] Speaker 3: girls and I'm telling them about it, and it's just
[35:12] Speaker 3: this gibberish sound and it's from coming up that hill
[35:16] Speaker 3: where one of the recorders was at. And then also
[35:21] Speaker 3: when I heard what sounded like, I thought was you know, somebody.
[35:27] Speaker 4: Coughing that is like a whisper into the recorder.
[35:33] Speaker 3: And it's what I heard was like like that, two
[35:38] Speaker 3: syllables and very breathy sounding. But when we sent it
[35:43] Speaker 3: off and had it analyzed, David Ellis of the Olympic
[35:47] Speaker 3: Project analyzed it all for us, but he slowed it
[35:52] Speaker 3: down and you can very clearly hear something say Debby,
[35:58] Speaker 3: and it breaks my aim into two syllables and so
[36:04] Speaker 3: we don't know, you know, what that was, if it
[36:08] Speaker 3: was a bigfoot creature or some sort of entity or what,
[36:13] Speaker 3: but the gibberish. We sent that to David Ellis and
[36:18] Speaker 3: he analyzed it and he said it's no known creature
[36:23] Speaker 3: and that he slowed it down and that it actually
[36:29] Speaker 3: is speaking faster than humanly possible. And so, you know,
[36:35] Speaker 3: we didn't see what it was, but we do know
[36:37] Speaker 3: that we had bigfoot activity during the night and we've
[36:42] Speaker 3: been out at that same spot. Me and another girl
[36:46] Speaker 3: had been out there, and that's the area we call
[36:48] Speaker 3: Tribulation Bay, and we had had something dragging its either
[36:55] Speaker 3: its finger or a stick along the roof of our tent,
[36:59] Speaker 3: and of course we had Christmas lights kind of strung
[37:02] Speaker 3: around us behind us, and you know, so we can
[37:05] Speaker 3: see any shadows, and we could see a stick or
[37:09] Speaker 3: either its finger being drug across the back roof part
[37:13] Speaker 3: of our tent, and and it lingered around what would
[37:18] Speaker 3: normally be used for a little closet that jutted out
[37:22] Speaker 3: the back of the tent, but it had flaps on
[37:26] Speaker 3: it inside the tent, and so that's where we stuck.
[37:28] Speaker 4: Our little potty bucket in there.
[37:32] Speaker 3: And so whatever was dragging this stick or finger along
[37:36] Speaker 3: the roofline of our tent hesitated back there by the
[37:40] Speaker 3: potty area, and.
[37:43] Speaker 4: It had hit our tent on all sides, and.
[37:47] Speaker 3: Because of the lights, we could even see, you know,
[37:49] Speaker 3: the hand coming in.
[37:51] Speaker 4: We could see the outline of the hand and it
[37:53] Speaker 4: was fingers were splayed out like if you, you know,
[37:57] Speaker 4: just opened up your hand for the number five as
[38:00] Speaker 4: you could. We could see those as it was coming
[38:04] Speaker 4: in on the wall of our tent. And that was
[38:08] Speaker 4: a pretty eventful knight that lasted quite a while until
[38:13] Speaker 4: one of the other girls that was in our group
[38:16] Speaker 4: came up in the middle of the night. We didn't
[38:18] Speaker 4: know that she had arrived because by that time we
[38:21] Speaker 4: had thought that the activity was starting to slow down.
[38:25] Speaker 4: But when she pulled in, she slept in her car
[38:29] Speaker 4: that night, and the next morning we went out there
[38:33] Speaker 4: to tell her, you know, you don't know what you
[38:35] Speaker 4: missed from last night, and she said, hold on, before
[38:38] Speaker 4: you tell me anything, let me tell you what I
[38:40] Speaker 4: saw when I pulled in and her headlights hit something.
[38:45] Speaker 4: She said that was running away from our tent on
[38:48] Speaker 4: two legs, and she held her calf up in the
[38:52] Speaker 4: air in like a running.
[38:53] Speaker 3: Motion, and she said that she could see the calf
[38:57] Speaker 3: part of a hairy leg running away from our hint.
[39:01] Speaker 3: And then we proceeded on to say, well there was
[39:04] Speaker 3: a reason why for that, but that that's one of
[39:09] Speaker 3: my favorite, I guess episodes that we've encountered.
[39:15] Speaker 4: And again that was at Tribulation Bay or the area
[39:19] Speaker 4: we call Tribulation Bay.
[39:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, we have nicknames for our areas that where nobody
[39:28] Speaker 2: really knows where they're at.
[39:30] Speaker 1: That's a good idea, and I'm sure you go so
[39:33] Speaker 1: many places to keep them all street. That's a really
[39:36] Speaker 1: good idea.
[39:38] Speaker 2: Well, it helps that we've we've had so many adventures
[39:42] Speaker 2: that have just been awesome, so we lose track sometimes.
[39:49] Speaker 3: We've been we've been very, very lucky. And I think
[39:54] Speaker 3: it's because of the fact that we are.
[39:57] Speaker 4: A female exactly. We're not as threat. I mean, I
[40:00] Speaker 4: don't thank you know, to him.
[40:02] Speaker 2: Maybe we send you to them, Yeah, and dance for
[40:08] Speaker 2: them and have pretty lights hanging up around and well
[40:12] Speaker 2: they like to throw rocks at us. We busted them
[40:15] Speaker 2: a little bit when they get too close with those rocks. Man,
[40:20] Speaker 2: we've listened to them just pit a pat around our
[40:23] Speaker 2: tent all not long.
[40:25] Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was in North Georgia, and I've had
[40:28] Speaker 5: some fantastic experiences.
[40:31] Speaker 2: Yes, we am.
[40:33] Speaker 1: You've all been doing it for such a long time,
[40:35] Speaker 1: and it's obvious you love what you do. You love
[40:38] Speaker 1: going out there and investigating. But what I'm wondering is
[40:42] Speaker 1: have you as a group had any experiences together that
[40:47] Speaker 1: caused you to come really close to wanting to throw
[40:51] Speaker 1: the towel in and see that's it. I've had enoughing,
[40:54] Speaker 1: We've had enough.
[40:56] Speaker 5: No, never, no, No, people actually scared us more than Yeah.
[41:02] Speaker 2: We've been scared by people a few times, but as
[41:05] Speaker 2: far as our Bigfoot research know, we are not scared.
[41:08] Speaker 2: We I mean, of course we're concerned because there's always
[41:13] Speaker 2: a chance something can happen to us the day we
[41:16] Speaker 2: hear is not there. We do we carry too, Yeah
[41:20] Speaker 2: we do, but we just try to stay calm.
[41:24] Speaker 3: But we carry mainly for humans because we're more scared
[41:28] Speaker 3: of humans than we are.
[41:30] Speaker 4: As odd as it would sound, bigfoot, we're we're more
[41:34] Speaker 4: afraid of the human element.
[41:37] Speaker 1: No, that's understandable, I get it.
[41:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad too, Yeah, because we have had a
[41:44] Speaker 2: man walk in our camp carrying a three foot sword
[41:47] Speaker 2: over his head.
[41:49] Speaker 3: What.
[41:50] Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, that was in Georgia.
[41:56] Speaker 2: Yes, he wanted to know if we were hearing the
[41:58] Speaker 2: scream and that he was here and down further on
[42:01] Speaker 2: the mountain, and we hadn't been hearing it, but we
[42:05] Speaker 2: had been having activity from rock throwing. They were throwing
[42:10] Speaker 2: rocks at us like crazy, and we were sitting there
[42:12] Speaker 2: eating up and he just comes in out the dark,
[42:14] Speaker 2: carrying this big sword over his head. And Debbie looks
[42:17] Speaker 2: at me. It says, Barbara, there's a guy coming up
[42:19] Speaker 2: behind you with a sword in his hand.
[42:22] Speaker 4: And he was shaking. He literally was shaking like a leaf.
[42:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[42:27] Speaker 1: Oh, he must have gotten into him then he did.
[42:31] Speaker 1: But to be carrying the sword around though, don't see
[42:34] Speaker 1: that every day.
[42:35] Speaker 2: He was a strange one, because I'd already had an
[42:38] Speaker 2: encounter with him earlier that day when I first got
[42:41] Speaker 2: to the campsite. I had just drove in and was
[42:45] Speaker 2: standing at the back of my jeep starting to unload it,
[42:48] Speaker 2: and he just pops up out of nowhere and starts
[42:52] Speaker 2: telling me about a murderer that's in the area. And
[42:56] Speaker 2: I'm standing there going open, ain't you? I tell him, Look,
[43:05] Speaker 2: I am armed, I said, I got people on the
[43:07] Speaker 2: way up here. I'm not going to be alone. But
[43:10] Speaker 2: he came back that night because I guess he thought
[43:13] Speaker 2: I was still alone.
[43:15] Speaker 3: And then when he's walking in, he literally in the dark,
[43:19] Speaker 3: carrying this big.
[43:22] Speaker 4: Sword. I mean it was one of those curved kind
[43:24] Speaker 4: of you ha, slight.
[43:25] Speaker 2: Curved to it like a saber.
[43:27] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[43:28] Speaker 3: And Barbara's got her back sitting towards them, and we're
[43:32] Speaker 3: sitting around the fire, and I said, Barbara, there's a
[43:35] Speaker 3: man with a sword. That's not too often you say that,
[43:40] Speaker 3: you know, walking into camp.
[43:43] Speaker 4: And he was.
[43:44] Speaker 3: He was very afraid, but he had tried, you know,
[43:48] Speaker 3: to check on Barbara because he thought she was still alone.
[43:52] Speaker 2: He was telling us that he was hearing me down
[43:57] Speaker 2: there walk meda medusa.
[44:00] Speaker 4: But he said he was hearing a medusa scream. Does
[44:03] Speaker 4: he worded it?
[44:04] Speaker 5: Yes?
[44:05] Speaker 4: And he was shaking like a leaf.
[44:07] Speaker 2: He was that he left. We told him he needed
[44:11] Speaker 2: to leave and he needed not be sneaking up on
[44:14] Speaker 2: people like that or he's gonna get shot.
[44:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to not be waterproof.
[44:20] Speaker 2: So he leaves and Debbie goes, great, Barbara, you just
[44:25] Speaker 2: pissed off a man with a sword. In his hand.
[44:28] Speaker 2: We don't know where he went.
[44:32] Speaker 1: He got the point across least he didn't stick around.
[44:35] Speaker 2: Well, we knew where he was camping, so we let
[44:38] Speaker 2: them there.
[44:38] Speaker 4: And yeah, we were like, okay, let's go check on him.
[44:42] Speaker 4: That way, he knows we're not mean.
[44:44] Speaker 3: Hateful people and he's to come kill us in the
[44:47] Speaker 3: middle of the night, and let's just make sure you
[44:50] Speaker 3: know that he's not hiding out in the bushes somewhere
[44:53] Speaker 3: next to our tent, you know. That way we can
[44:56] Speaker 3: kind of at least know where he's at.
[44:58] Speaker 4: And so we did.
[44:59] Speaker 2: Yeah there, and he's still scared to death with that sword,
[45:03] Speaker 2: and he's going, tell me you heard it, Tell me
[45:06] Speaker 2: you heard it. He said, I don't know what it was,
[45:09] Speaker 2: but it had these huge lungs. Yeah, And deb and
[45:13] Speaker 2: I looked at each other like, oh, buddy, we know
[45:16] Speaker 2: what it is.
[45:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was trying not to grin.
[45:19] Speaker 2: I didn't want to smile about it because he's genuinely
[45:23] Speaker 2: scared to death.
[45:24] Speaker 3: But now it all made sense because we knew what
[45:27] Speaker 3: he was experiencing then. And after we got back to
[45:33] Speaker 3: our camp, it wasn't no time after that that he
[45:36] Speaker 3: came hauling butt and you know, I speak to say
[45:39] Speaker 3: something else. I'm trying to be nice for the radio.
[45:42] Speaker 3: But he was just hauling it out of there, and
[45:46] Speaker 3: we were on top of a mountain which the road
[45:49] Speaker 3: was barely wide enough for two cars to pass, and
[45:53] Speaker 3: so we were, you know, worried about him even making
[45:56] Speaker 3: it down safely.
[45:59] Speaker 2: He left, He was scaredy left.
[46:01] Speaker 4: I telled it out.
[46:03] Speaker 2: But actually that next morning, right before dawn, we heard
[46:08] Speaker 2: that it sounded like a pterodactyl scream. To me, that's
[46:12] Speaker 2: what it sounded like. We heard it.
[46:14] Speaker 3: That's what we call it. But yeah, it was it
[46:16] Speaker 3: was two of them, because we all three of us
[46:21] Speaker 3: saw their shadows that night, because of course, we had
[46:24] Speaker 3: the twinkle lights up again and around the tent, and
[46:27] Speaker 3: we saw the two shadows coming in towards us, and.
[46:33] Speaker 4: They got so big and close to us.
[46:35] Speaker 3: That they were up over even over the roof part
[46:39] Speaker 3: of our tent. And like I said, we had twinkle
[46:42] Speaker 3: lights going down three sides of us, and the way
[46:46] Speaker 3: we had our cots were in a U shape where
[46:49] Speaker 3: my foot hit Sandy's head and Sandy's foot could get Barbara,
[46:55] Speaker 3: and so we were all three kicking each other pretty
[46:57] Speaker 3: much pointing up because by this time the two shadows
[47:02] Speaker 3: had gotten so close that the shoulders and head were
[47:06] Speaker 3: up above where the roof was basically on our tent.
[47:10] Speaker 3: And then they walked down the side of our tent
[47:13] Speaker 3: and went back behind us, and it was quite for
[47:17] Speaker 3: just a few minutes, and then all of a sudden,
[47:21] Speaker 3: there was this very sounded like a very high pitched scream,
[47:27] Speaker 3: and then we all kind of looked at each other, like,
[47:30] Speaker 3: what the heck is that? And then we realized, oh,
[47:33] Speaker 3: that's that scream that the swordman was talking about, because
[47:39] Speaker 3: it was very high pitched scream. And then after that
[47:44] Speaker 3: they left, and within just minutes the sun started rising
[47:48] Speaker 3: and coming up, and so we just kind of put
[47:54] Speaker 3: two and two together.
[47:55] Speaker 4: And our thoughts on that was is.
[47:56] Speaker 3: That maybe they, you know, knew the sun was fixing
[48:00] Speaker 3: to come up, so they were screaming to let the
[48:03] Speaker 3: others in their troop or whatever you want to call it. No, okay,
[48:09] Speaker 3: it's fixing the daylight, y'all, get your butts back home. Yeah,
[48:13] Speaker 3: that's just our you know thoughts.
[48:15] Speaker 4: We don't know.
[48:17] Speaker 2: We've had some good experiences up there, some really good ones. Yeah,
[48:23] Speaker 2: one night we tried something different Sandy had suggested it.
[48:27] Speaker 2: Then Sandy's idea that instead of always being happy, let's
[48:31] Speaker 2: try crying being sad. So I did, and I put
[48:36] Speaker 2: on the show. I was snopping. I was crying so hard,
[48:42] Speaker 2: just wailing on top of the mountain, and it's just
[48:45] Speaker 2: going everywhere. Well, I'll probably wailed on probably ten minutes.
[48:50] Speaker 2: Good cry. Well, just a couple of minutes after our
[48:54] Speaker 2: start crying, we start hearing there's like to our pants.
[48:59] Speaker 2: Hod is up high and you walk down a trail
[49:01] Speaker 2: and there's like this large food plot that's what we
[49:05] Speaker 2: call it, where deer can go eat. Well something down
[49:09] Speaker 2: there is running back and forth across this food plot,
[49:13] Speaker 2: just screaming, just screaming it. Run one way and scream
[49:18] Speaker 2: run the other way and screaming. And they kept this
[49:20] Speaker 2: up probably what Debbi fifteen or twenty minutes.
[49:24] Speaker 4: It lasted a good while, Yeah, And.
[49:28] Speaker 2: I really upset on that night when my screaming. I
[49:31] Speaker 2: think they were worried about us because they they're familiar
[49:34] Speaker 2: with us there.
[49:35] Speaker 3: But it was so funny too, because she did, I mean,
[49:38] Speaker 3: she really sounded a lot. She was wooing and she
[49:42] Speaker 3: would say, I'm so sad.
[49:47] Speaker 1: I wish you could have seen that.
[49:49] Speaker 4: She could have won an Oscar for that performance. It
[49:51] Speaker 4: worked a good one.
[49:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, Dandy didn't get this see me do it, and
[50:00] Speaker 2: it was her idea. We tried it the next night
[50:06] Speaker 2: and it didn't work, so it's well, it didn't work,
[50:10] Speaker 2: but that first time they fell for it, and we
[50:13] Speaker 2: actually found footprints.
[50:15] Speaker 6: Yeah in the plot.
[50:17] Speaker 1: Yep, that was a great idea trying that.
[50:20] Speaker 2: Ain't she smart?
[50:22] Speaker 1: Very very smart.
[50:25] Speaker 4: That's why we keep her around.
[50:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand. What would you say has been the
[50:32] Speaker 1: most profound experience that you've had as a group.
[50:37] Speaker 4: Mmmm, I don't know.
[50:40] Speaker 6: It's hard to say. We've had some. Really the one.
[50:44] Speaker 2: I guess that kind of made our hair stand up
[50:46] Speaker 2: a little bit. We were in uh the Olympic National
[50:51] Speaker 2: Forest in Washington, and we were bloof charged.
[50:55] Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, that's a good one.
[50:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was probably the creepiest.
[51:02] Speaker 2: I thought that was the creepiest because they've got our attention.
[51:06] Speaker 2: We stood up on that one and kind of looked around.
[51:09] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[51:10] Speaker 2: I agree, But we're in the middle of the forest
[51:14] Speaker 2: and have you ever been out there? Big?
[51:18] Speaker 1: No, I haven't.
[51:20] Speaker 2: The trees out there are huge, they are so huge,
[51:25] Speaker 2: and it was a big, bright, full moon night, and
[51:28] Speaker 2: the trees were so tall and from our little campsite,
[51:31] Speaker 2: we can't even see the moon. Yeah, and we're sitting around.
[51:37] Speaker 2: We couldn't have a fire because it's back when the
[51:39] Speaker 2: fires were really bad out there, and we had like
[51:42] Speaker 2: a COmON lantern. We were sitting around and we start
[51:47] Speaker 2: hearing this rustling. Get you tell them the story, because
[51:50] Speaker 2: you can tell it better.
[51:52] Speaker 4: Oh.
[51:53] Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we were just sitting out in front, and
[51:57] Speaker 3: like she said, we had just a little coman lantern
[52:00] Speaker 3: sitting there in the middle of us, like we're all
[52:02] Speaker 3: around the fire.
[52:05] Speaker 4: But no, it was just a COmON lantern.
[52:08] Speaker 3: And I think I had my back to that big
[52:12] Speaker 3: patch of trees and it was back behind me and
[52:17] Speaker 3: they were facing it. And we had also there was
[52:21] Speaker 3: a tree next to us, and we had hung all
[52:24] Speaker 3: sorts of little trinkets on that tree too, And anyway,
[52:28] Speaker 3: so we start hearing this noise back behind me, and
[52:36] Speaker 3: it just started sounding like it was crashing through these trees.
[52:41] Speaker 3: And now these are big trees and the bottom branches
[52:44] Speaker 3: are up pretty dagum high, and whatever was going through
[52:49] Speaker 3: there was hitting some of these branches and it was
[52:52] Speaker 3: just crashing through and I turned around.
[52:56] Speaker 4: I don't remember if I stood up or if I
[52:59] Speaker 4: was already standing up, but.
[53:01] Speaker 3: I turned around to where I was facing the tree,
[53:04] Speaker 3: and I walked back behind over there where Barbara and
[53:08] Speaker 3: Sandy were.
[53:10] Speaker 2: I was like, they're gonna get them first powering numbers.
[53:15] Speaker 3: But we were all three just looking at that huge
[53:20] Speaker 3: tree line that was in front of us because it
[53:22] Speaker 3: was facing you know, it was in front of our
[53:24] Speaker 3: tent basically, but so we're just staring at and it's
[53:29] Speaker 3: moving from our right to left and when it gets
[53:33] Speaker 3: down to the left, I mean to the end of
[53:37] Speaker 3: that tree line, then we hear it going to the
[53:42] Speaker 3: left side like it's making a left turn, and it
[53:46] Speaker 3: crashed through those trees, and so we're thinking, well, and
[53:49] Speaker 3: the next thing will be for it to make another
[53:51] Speaker 3: left turn and come down behind us, behind where our
[53:55] Speaker 3: tent was, and we're hearing it and it's stops before
[54:01] Speaker 3: it ever gets to our tent, and we're like, okay,
[54:05] Speaker 3: what's it doing? You know, what's it doing now? Why
[54:09] Speaker 3: did it stop? And what's it fixing a do? But
[54:12] Speaker 3: then we never heard anything else, and so we're like
[54:18] Speaker 3: not knowing what's.
[54:20] Speaker 4: Going on what's going to happen next.
[54:22] Speaker 3: But some of those little trinkets on that tree that
[54:26] Speaker 3: we had hung, they some of them got they were gone,
[54:30] Speaker 3: and then some of them were left, and then on.
[54:34] Speaker 4: The other side, so we're put on the other side.
[54:37] Speaker 3: Like it completely moved it around, and so it was
[54:42] Speaker 3: something that was able to, you know, get a little
[54:47] Speaker 3: ornament like thing off and moving around to the other that. So, yeah,
[54:50] Speaker 3: it had to have had fingers. But it sounded crashing
[54:56] Speaker 3: through those trees. Vic It sounded like a herd of
[55:00] Speaker 3: elk or something and it was just breaking limbs as
[55:04] Speaker 3: it was running through there.
[55:06] Speaker 4: But it wasn't a hurd of elk.
[55:10] Speaker 1: Oh.
[55:10] Speaker 4: Sure it was crazy, Yes, no.
[55:14] Speaker 1: I believe it. Yes, some people describe it. It's sounded
[55:17] Speaker 1: like the bulldozer running through the woods without its engine on.
[55:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, it made one heck of a noise, Yes it did.
[55:26] Speaker 3: And we had stayed the night before, I believe, at
[55:30] Speaker 3: the Olympic project and uh we'd stayed there actually two
[55:35] Speaker 3: knots and then going back way back behind there, behind them.
[55:41] Speaker 4: And uh so yeah, they got a really good location.
[55:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd say they do. And when they did
[55:49] Speaker 1: that that night, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys,
[55:52] Speaker 1: if they don't just start doing something like that without
[55:55] Speaker 1: in the end goal. They're probably yeah, ten feet into
[55:59] Speaker 1: that run, thirty feet into the run, and then it
[56:02] Speaker 1: hits some Okay, why did I start running like this?
[56:06] Speaker 2: It's like you ran all the way around and come
[56:08] Speaker 2: back up to it's like, oh, okay, what do I
[56:10] Speaker 2: do now?
[56:11] Speaker 1: Exactly?
[56:12] Speaker 3: Well, I'm just gonna take some of their pretty little trinkets.
[56:15] Speaker 5: While yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
[56:20] Speaker 3: I think a lot of it, though, is they just
[56:22] Speaker 3: try to intimidate us, and most people probably do leave.
[56:29] Speaker 4: But we're hard headed women. We don't.
[56:35] Speaker 2: So hard I've never felt like I needed to flee.
[56:39] Speaker 2: I never have gotten that feeling that I needed I
[56:43] Speaker 2: was unsaved.
[56:45] Speaker 1: Well that's great, I hope it stays that way. And
[56:47] Speaker 1: also too, it's clear you you definitely don't frighten easily
[56:51] Speaker 1: at all. So I'm sure you've had experiences where most
[56:54] Speaker 1: people would have just dashed for their car or truck
[56:58] Speaker 1: to get the heck out of there, but the three
[57:00] Speaker 1: of you stayed because that's what you're there for.
[57:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're definitely thrill seekers. No, we are either
[57:09] Speaker 4: that or we're just stupid.
[57:11] Speaker 1: Oh come on now, yeah, that's definitely not the keys, don't.
[57:15] Speaker 2: We actually have a little story to tell you, Vicky
[57:18] Speaker 2: that you might be interested in. Growing up, from being
[57:25] Speaker 2: a very young child, probably four or five years old,
[57:28] Speaker 2: I started having this dream. We all three of us
[57:32] Speaker 2: have had the same exact dream about a werewolf.
[57:37] Speaker 4: Wow, when we were little. Yeah, and I didn't know
[57:41] Speaker 4: them at all, of course back then.
[57:45] Speaker 2: And Sandy never told me. Growing up, we were just
[57:47] Speaker 2: sitting around in camp we were in North George as
[57:50] Speaker 2: a matter of fact, started talking about werewolves and having dreams,
[57:54] Speaker 2: and it just started flowing. We all discovered that's the
[57:58] Speaker 2: exact same dream saying, kind of building, same circumstances everything. Yeah,
[58:04] Speaker 2: it's really strange, so like we've got a connection, We've
[58:09] Speaker 2: got some kind of soul connection.
[58:12] Speaker 3: After that was brought up, that's when we started thinking, Man,
[58:16] Speaker 3: maybe that's why we've had so much activity, had been
[58:21] Speaker 3: lucky enough to have this activity. It's because she didn't
[58:25] Speaker 3: know Sandy had had that dream.
[58:27] Speaker 4: I didn't know. I mean, all of our.
[58:30] Speaker 3: Dreams were all so very similar and we had never
[58:34] Speaker 3: ever mentioned them before. And Sandy and Barbara had started
[58:38] Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my gosh.
[58:40] Speaker 5: Yeah, Dabby had started talking about this same house and
[58:45] Speaker 5: I go, Debbie, what color was it? And she said,
[58:48] Speaker 5: you know, I think it was white. And I said,
[58:50] Speaker 5: oh my god, it was white in my dream. And
[58:53] Speaker 5: we were all three up underneath this porch. None of
[58:56] Speaker 5: us knew we were having this exact same dream throughout.
[58:59] Speaker 2: The house was on and cinder blocks.
[59:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was set up and like it might have
[59:05] Speaker 3: one little bit of a variation each one, just a
[59:09] Speaker 3: tiny little bit of a variation in it, but it
[59:11] Speaker 3: was all the same thing. We all ended up under
[59:14] Speaker 3: the house at different times. Of course, it was just
[59:17] Speaker 3: us one person, you know.
[59:19] Speaker 4: At that time that was under the house.
[59:21] Speaker 3: But the fact that we all had the same dream,
[59:25] Speaker 3: we thought, okay, we just got the feeling that we
[59:29] Speaker 3: were meant to become a group.
[59:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, because honestly, the last thing we want to deal
[59:35] Speaker 2: with is dog man.
[59:38] Speaker 4: Are werewolves?
[59:39] Speaker 2: We don't Yeah, I didn't sign up.
[59:42] Speaker 3: For that, no, but we had all had of course
[59:47] Speaker 3: back then, you know, it was a werewolf to us
[59:50] Speaker 3: because we never heard of.
[59:51] Speaker 4: A dog man when we were young.
[59:53] Speaker 2: But we truly don't know that. We have not, never
[59:57] Speaker 2: ever experienced one.
[59:59] Speaker 3: Right, and some of that that we've heard or you know,
[1:00:03] Speaker 3: the noises and stuff, it could have been that. But
[1:00:06] Speaker 3: I sure don't want to ever see one or actually
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: know I'm experiencing a dog man now, because that just
[1:00:12] Speaker 3: scares me. Bigfoot, for some reason, doesn't scare me. No,
[1:00:17] Speaker 3: But I just don't want to ever experience or see
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: a dog man because I'm afraid that it would hinder
[1:00:24] Speaker 3: me from going back into the woods again.
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: I think that's one thing that would stop me. Yeah,
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: as much, maybe as deep in the woods. I'll probably
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: be want to be a little closer to people.
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: Oh that, and I understand you answered a question. I
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: was going to throw it y'all, was going to ask
[1:00:45] Speaker 1: you if on one of your outings you did wind
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: up having a dog mean encounter, would that be it?
[1:00:51] Speaker 1: Right there? Would you throw in the towel no more?
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: Or do you think you'd still go out?
[1:00:56] Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't go back to that area, but I.
[1:01:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, it might take me a little while to calm
[1:01:06] Speaker 3: down from it.
[1:01:08] Speaker 1: Well, that wouldn't make any difference from most people. That's
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: one of the things about dog mean encounters. I mean,
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: I've spoken with sasquatch investigators who have had experiences that,
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: which is really unnerve even the most hardened person, but
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: they take it in stride. But they have one kind
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: of mile. If there is such a thing somewhat mild
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: dog mean encounter, and that's it. Nuh uh. They had
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: don't want any part of heading back into the woods, no,
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: thank you.
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: Well, you know, we grew up with the werewolf movies, but.
[1:01:43] Speaker 4: You didn't have anything like.
[1:01:45] Speaker 3: A bigfoot in the movies back when when at least
[1:01:49] Speaker 3: we were kids, you know, And to us, a dog
[1:01:54] Speaker 3: man might as well be a werewolf, even though you know,
[1:01:57] Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to turn into a dog
[1:01:59] Speaker 3: man if he bites us or anything like the werewolves
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: you know, supposedly did. But there's just something I think
[1:02:09] Speaker 3: because of our childhood that puts that fear more into us,
[1:02:16] Speaker 3: or at least it does for me. You know, I
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: just don't want to ever witness or see a dog
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: man because I'm afraid it would scare me, you know more,
[1:02:30] Speaker 3: for some stupid reason.
[1:02:33] Speaker 4: And maybe it's because we did each.
[1:02:35] Speaker 3: Have bigfoot on our properties, you know, when we were
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: younger and stuff. But I just I'm not scared of
[1:02:44] Speaker 3: a Bigfoot, at least not yet, and I don't want
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: to be, but I do think that a dog man
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: is a little more unnerving.
[1:02:55] Speaker 1: And that's the thing. They know how to push her
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: buttons and in most cases, when you have an encounter,
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: want to push your buttons. Whereas sasquatch, they seem to
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: do things for various reasons, sometimes just to interact with you.
[1:03:07] Speaker 1: It seems like you're bored and they just want to
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: interact with you some As you know, I don't need
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: to tell you know so much about these guys. Obviously,
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: sometimes they do want to just run you off and
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: frighten you. But with these guys with dog men, almost
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: every time it seems like they are trying to push
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: your buttons and terrify you as much as possible. And
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: when you consider, like Debbie just mentioned, we've been conditioned
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: to be terrified of where wolves, Well, you see a
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: dog man, that's what you think you're dealing with. So
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: they had every advantage they really do.
[1:03:39] Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, yep, it's.
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: Not fair on that to at all. But well, having
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: said all that, ladies, we're out of time. I want
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: to ask you. I've got a lot of questions to
[1:03:50] Speaker 1: through out there for you. Would you be interested in
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: coming back for a part too, or I could actually
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: do a Q and A with you?
[1:03:58] Speaker 2: Sure, Thank you, Bud, answer your questions someone, because we
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: can just sit here and talk and talk and talk
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: and talk forever, but we got to answer questions.
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: Well, I've got plenty for you. I'm going to put
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: all three of you on the hot seat, so you
[1:04:15] Speaker 1: better prepare for that bright light in your faces and
[1:04:19] Speaker 1: getting grilled with questions. I've got plenty of them for you.
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: I've got some shady talking where Yeah.
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: You're gonna need them because I've got a list of
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: them for you.
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: All right, I'm glad to hear it.
[1:04:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Well, yeah, thank you so much for coming
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: on tonight, and thanks so much for coming back for
[1:04:38] Speaker 1: that Q and A. Of course I'm looking forward to it.
[1:04:41] Speaker 4: Just let us know win we'll be glad to turn back.
[1:04:45] Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and y'all do that well. Having said that,
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: thanks again so much for your time, ladies, and hope
[1:04:52] Speaker 1: you have a great night. And of course I'm looking
[1:04:54] Speaker 1: forward to the part too.
[1:04:56] Speaker 4: Thank you, guys.
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: To good night everybody, not y'all, thanks good night.
[1:05:08] Speaker 7: That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
[1:05:12] Speaker 7: Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
[1:05:16] Speaker 7: like to be a guest on the show, please go
[1:05:18] Speaker 7: to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
[1:05:22] Speaker 7: love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a
[1:05:26] Speaker 7: great night.

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