# They Feel Like Family to Me - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 517

An episode of [Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1176349237), 19 Dec 2025, 1 h 21 min.

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Tonight’s guest, Gina Splettstaszer, has had Sasquatch sightings and encounters in multiple states. Her encounters with them range in intensity from mild to wild. The experiences she’s had with them have had a huge effect on her life. In fact, her experiences with them are what motivated her to start producing a podcast where she focuses on Sasquatch and other paranormal phenomena. Her podcast is called Aether Flows. On tonight’s show, Gina will not only be talking about her experiences, she’s going to talk about her podcast too. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to her do that. If you’d like to check out Gina’s podcast, called “Aether Flows,” which we hope you will, please visit… https://www.youtube.com/@AetherFlowsPodcast If you've had at least one Sasquatch sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. I'd love to hear from you. If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134 Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening!

## Transcript

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[0:14] Speaker 2: Hello everybody, it's a pleasure to be here. Thank you
[0:18] Speaker 2: so much for having me on. My name is Genus Platstaser,
[0:24] Speaker 2: and I am the host of a podcast called ether
[0:30] Speaker 2: Flows Podcast, which I would say focuses mainly on unity, consciousness,
[0:39] Speaker 2: on multidimensionality, and bridging the gap between the dimensions, honestly,
[0:48] Speaker 2: between between humanity and the interdimensionals that we share space
[0:53] Speaker 2: and time with on this planet. Because it is time.
[0:58] Speaker 2: It's time for us to remember who we are and
[1:02] Speaker 2: remember that we are part of the planet, we are
[1:05] Speaker 2: part of Gaya, we are part of each other, and
[1:09] Speaker 2: we really need to start working together to i lift
[1:14] Speaker 2: ourselves up and evolve. So anyway, that's part of what
[1:18] Speaker 2: the podcast is about. But before I go, I guess
[1:23] Speaker 2: bar into that, I will say that a big part
[1:28] Speaker 2: of the reason why I started the podcast was because
[1:30] Speaker 2: of these experiences that I have had in the past
[1:34] Speaker 2: two years with a group of Sasquatch people that live
[1:40] Speaker 2: in my area in the up of Michigan, and it's
[1:46] Speaker 2: been quite a journey with them. I have learned so
[1:50] Speaker 2: much about myself and about how energy works and how
[1:56] Speaker 2: reality is based on the pound national energy of love.
[2:02] Speaker 2: That's what they have taught me, and it's been a
[2:06] Speaker 2: beautiful experience. So with that I will talk about I
[2:13] Speaker 2: guess the whole story. So before I moved to the
[2:20] Speaker 2: Upper Peninsula in twenty twenty two, my family and I
[2:24] Speaker 2: lived in Detroit and we were there for about five years,
[2:28] Speaker 2: and at some point we went on vacation to Traverse City,
[2:33] Speaker 2: which is in Upper for Lower Michigan. Michigan is shaped
[2:40] Speaker 2: like a hand and it would be the little fingers basically.
[2:45] Speaker 2: So we went up to Traverse City for a vacation
[2:47] Speaker 2: and we stayed at this little airbnd that was right
[2:51] Speaker 2: off of Lake Michigan, and we were there for a
[2:54] Speaker 2: few days, my wife and my dogs and I and
[2:57] Speaker 2: loved it. It's such a beautiful town. And I had
[3:02] Speaker 2: little to no interest at the time with interdimensionals, with cryptids,
[3:08] Speaker 2: with UFOs, with ghosts, with pretty much any of the paranormal.
[3:13] Speaker 2: You know, I was kind of waking up to learning
[3:17] Speaker 2: how to work with my own energy learning how to
[3:20] Speaker 2: work with my chakras. And it was basically kind of
[3:23] Speaker 2: a self discovery journey that I was just beginning. And
[3:29] Speaker 2: so we went on this vacation and I was sitting outside.
[3:33] Speaker 2: It was in the summertime, and I was sitting out stargazing,
[3:37] Speaker 2: just looking at the stars because being in Detroit there's
[3:40] Speaker 2: a lot of light pollution and you can see maybe
[3:44] Speaker 2: ten stars in the sky, and so it was just
[3:48] Speaker 2: beautiful getting out into nature and seeing all these stars
[3:52] Speaker 2: and being right next to the lake and it was
[3:54] Speaker 2: so peaceful. And I saw a little just a little
[3:58] Speaker 2: light that was kind of moving, and I was just like,
[4:01] Speaker 2: is that I wonder if that's a It might be
[4:03] Speaker 2: a satellite. I'm not sure what that is, but it
[4:06] Speaker 2: was making kind of a zigzag motion and I was
[4:09] Speaker 2: just looking at it, just wondering what that was. And
[4:12] Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, out of a tree shoots
[4:15] Speaker 2: out this orb and it just shoots over the roof
[4:18] Speaker 2: of the house. And after that, I saw this big
[4:23] Speaker 2: sparkly light over my head that just kind of appeared
[4:27] Speaker 2: and it slowly floated over my head and over the
[4:31] Speaker 2: trees and across Lake Michigan, and it took probably a
[4:35] Speaker 2: good five minutes for it to finally get across the
[4:39] Speaker 2: lake and dissipate and disappear. And I didn't really know
[4:45] Speaker 2: what to think, but it kind of just blew my mind,
[4:50] Speaker 2: and I just walked back into the house and my
[4:53] Speaker 2: wife was like, Hey, how was it out there? And
[4:57] Speaker 2: I didn't even know what to say. I just said, oh, it,
[5:00] Speaker 2: it was fine, and that was it. I didn't really
[5:04] Speaker 2: I kind of just put that all in the back
[5:06] Speaker 2: of my mind because I didn't really know how to
[5:08] Speaker 2: process any of it. So probably about I would say,
[5:15] Speaker 2: a couple of weeks after we got back, we were
[5:18] Speaker 2: in Detroit and I would be in the backyard and
[5:21] Speaker 2: I would see these I would see orbs. I would
[5:24] Speaker 2: see these kind of different lights, and this would be
[5:28] Speaker 2: in the daytime at night. I felt like a phenomena
[5:32] Speaker 2: kind of followed me back to Detroit, and it kind
[5:35] Speaker 2: of turned into this regular occurrence where you know, I
[5:40] Speaker 2: would go outside into the backyard and in the middle
[5:44] Speaker 2: of the sky, I would see like a little a
[5:47] Speaker 2: little triangle just floating above me, and I would see it,
[5:51] Speaker 2: and it would see me, and it would slowly kind
[5:54] Speaker 2: of take a U turn and float off and I'm like, Okay,
[5:57] Speaker 2: I guess, I guess this has happening now, and it
[6:02] Speaker 2: just got to be more and more of a regular
[6:05] Speaker 2: occurrence that I finally had to kind of come out
[6:10] Speaker 2: of the closet with my family. And that was really
[6:14] Speaker 2: that was really really stressful, to tell the truth, it
[6:17] Speaker 2: was and thankfully my family is very supportive. They're very supportive,
[6:25] Speaker 2: but yeah, it was. It was difficult coming out to
[6:27] Speaker 2: my family and saying that, hey, I'm I'm starting to
[6:30] Speaker 2: hear things and see things and I'm not really sure
[6:33] Speaker 2: what's going on, and it's all very confusing. And I
[6:37] Speaker 2: feel like this whole thing kind of started with the
[6:41] Speaker 2: energy work, with me starting to open up my chakras
[6:44] Speaker 2: and learn how to use my energy, and I feel
[6:46] Speaker 2: like that kind of was the catalyst for a lot
[6:51] Speaker 2: of this really, I mean, it opened up my perception
[6:54] Speaker 2: and my awareness and so so yeah, that was a
[6:58] Speaker 2: big deal. But like I said, luckily my family was
[7:02] Speaker 2: very supportive, and so with that, what happened. Let me see,
[7:11] Speaker 2: so the pandemic started. This was about twenty twenty, and
[7:15] Speaker 2: you know, we were all in the house for a
[7:18] Speaker 2: long time, not by choice for most of us, but
[7:22] Speaker 2: it was for me, it was a very great opportunity
[7:26] Speaker 2: to go inward and to sit in stillness, which I
[7:31] Speaker 2: don't think i'd ever done in my life before that.
[7:34] Speaker 2: I was I was a chef for about twenty years,
[7:37] Speaker 2: and that is a very very high stress, high stress job,
[7:41] Speaker 2: and you kind of just learn how to run on
[7:43] Speaker 2: autopilot all the time just to kind of just to
[7:49] Speaker 2: kind of do the job. You kind of just have
[7:52] Speaker 2: to learn how to compartmentalize and put your feelings away
[7:56] Speaker 2: and just push through stuff. And so with this time,
[8:02] Speaker 2: it was so nice. It was so nice to be
[8:04] Speaker 2: able to finally kind of relax and learn how to
[8:08] Speaker 2: relax and to go inward. And so with that, I
[8:15] Speaker 2: started feeling more and more of my neighbor's energies and
[8:20] Speaker 2: the city's energies and the lands energies, and it was
[8:23] Speaker 2: really kind of overwhelming. It was starting to get really overwhelming,
[8:27] Speaker 2: and all I could think about after a while was
[8:29] Speaker 2: moving to somewhere quieter, because I just felt this like
[8:33] Speaker 2: just this low level kind of static and noise all
[8:37] Speaker 2: the time, and I didn't really understand how to turn
[8:40] Speaker 2: it on and off or anything at that point. So
[8:43] Speaker 2: I was thinking more and more about nature and decided
[8:49] Speaker 2: that maybe going to be up the Upper Peninsula would
[8:52] Speaker 2: be a good idea. So we decided to go on
[8:56] Speaker 2: a trip and check out Marquette. We did, and in
[9:02] Speaker 2: the process we ended up just kind of falling into
[9:06] Speaker 2: buying a house and we live in the up now,
[9:10] Speaker 2: and it was all a very synchronistic experience. I really
[9:13] Speaker 2: feel like I was guided up here. So we moved
[9:16] Speaker 2: up here in twenty twenty two, and I decided around
[9:23] Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to start working with a mentor, and
[9:26] Speaker 2: her name was Asia Love, and that was a very
[9:30] Speaker 2: transformative experience and in of itself. During the course of
[9:36] Speaker 2: working with her and learning more about how to work
[9:39] Speaker 2: with my energy and how to triands mute, and just
[9:45] Speaker 2: how basically how to look deeper into myself, one night
[9:52] Speaker 2: I was asleep in my bed and the whole family
[9:57] Speaker 2: was asleep, and we were all woken up by these
[9:59] Speaker 2: emis enormous bangs on the roof. It sounded like boom, boom, boom,
[10:05] Speaker 2: and then something just rolled off the side of the roof,
[10:09] Speaker 2: and that was really that was so strange. I didn't
[10:14] Speaker 2: know what to think. I went outside to see if
[10:16] Speaker 2: maybe branches had fallen on the roof or there was
[10:19] Speaker 2: no wind or anything. We've had windstorms before with you know,
[10:23] Speaker 2: parts of the trees falling onto the roof and damaging
[10:26] Speaker 2: the roof, but nothing like that had happened. It was
[10:28] Speaker 2: a totally still night. But for some reason, the dogs
[10:33] Speaker 2: were really affected. They were so scared. All the next day.
[10:37] Speaker 2: They wouldn't come outside, they didn't want to they didn't
[10:41] Speaker 2: want to play, they weren't acting like themselves, and I
[10:43] Speaker 2: thought that was super weird. So I decided to email
[10:48] Speaker 2: my mentor and ask her maybe if she had some
[10:51] Speaker 2: insight on what it could be. And so I wrote
[10:54] Speaker 2: to her and she wrote me back and she said
[10:56] Speaker 2: it was the Sasquatch people. And I had no idea
[11:01] Speaker 2: what to think. Pretty much, up until then, I had
[11:07] Speaker 2: thought they were sort of maybe, I don't know, maybe
[11:12] Speaker 2: like a like an archetypal energy, like how I thought
[11:16] Speaker 2: leftons or dragons or something like that would be. But
[11:21] Speaker 2: you know, now I know it's all it's all very
[11:24] Speaker 2: real in other dimensions, But at the time I just thought,
[11:27] Speaker 2: you know, they're all myths and fairy tales and stuff.
[11:30] Speaker 2: So I didn't really understand what she meant when she
[11:33] Speaker 2: said the Sasquatch people that they were actually very in fact,
[11:38] Speaker 2: very real. So I kind of just, I don't know,
[11:43] Speaker 2: I didn't really know what to do with that information,
[11:45] Speaker 2: so I kind of just put it on the back burner.
[11:48] Speaker 2: And a few weeks later, I was walking out in
[11:51] Speaker 2: these wetlands where I would take my dogs quite frequently,
[11:57] Speaker 2: off of Lake Superior, and I started seeing This was
[12:01] Speaker 2: in March of twenty twenty three, and I was with
[12:04] Speaker 2: my wife and we were walking. It was a beautiful day,
[12:08] Speaker 2: and we started seeing these tiny little footprints like I
[12:13] Speaker 2: would say, maybe three inches long, I don't know, like
[12:18] Speaker 2: little child footprints, bare footprints in the snow. And this
[12:22] Speaker 2: was miles away from a town. This was on like
[12:26] Speaker 2: a logging road in these wetlands, and I didn't know
[12:32] Speaker 2: what to think. Again, you know, your brain just does
[12:35] Speaker 2: all of these mental gymnastics to try to make everything
[12:39] Speaker 2: so logical, and I feel like it kind of just
[12:43] Speaker 2: blew a circuit when I saw those, I didn't say,
[12:46] Speaker 2: I didn't take a picture. I didn't I didn't know
[12:50] Speaker 2: what to do. I just laughed, because what else are
[12:54] Speaker 2: you going to do when you see something like that
[12:56] Speaker 2: and you've never seen it before. You're just like, okay, well,
[12:59] Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. And so that happened. But
[13:06] Speaker 2: after that, I started seeing more footprints and they were
[13:09] Speaker 2: a little bit bigger, and it would be like four
[13:13] Speaker 2: or five prints and then half a mile I would
[13:16] Speaker 2: walk and then another couple of footprints and they would disappear,
[13:19] Speaker 2: and it was just so strange. So yeah, that happened
[13:26] Speaker 2: a few times. And then one day I kind of
[13:31] Speaker 2: decided to ask, just in my mind during meditation, who
[13:36] Speaker 2: was doing this? Who was this? And I got a
[13:40] Speaker 2: word in like big bold block letters in my mind,
[13:45] Speaker 2: a name. It was kol and I had never that
[13:50] Speaker 2: had never happened to me before. I was like, coal,
[13:53] Speaker 2: It was coal? What is coal? What is this? And
[13:58] Speaker 2: so I talked to my my mentor, Asia about it,
[14:01] Speaker 2: and the information that she was able to get was
[14:04] Speaker 2: that there was a family of Sasquatch people that lived
[14:08] Speaker 2: in the area and they were trying to contact me.
[14:11] Speaker 2: They wanted to connect and they wanted to work with me,
[14:16] Speaker 2: and I was really open to it. So I just
[14:21] Speaker 2: started trying to connect with them in meditation and I
[14:25] Speaker 2: would ask to connect to their frequency and I would
[14:30] Speaker 2: feel my whole body start to vibrate. It would come
[14:33] Speaker 2: in through the top of my head and my whole
[14:35] Speaker 2: body would just like start buzzing, and I would just
[14:38] Speaker 2: sit with that feeling. And that's kind of how the
[14:43] Speaker 2: whole connection with them started. So let me see. There
[14:48] Speaker 2: was a time around that same time, I was out
[14:50] Speaker 2: in the woods with my dogs and I just decide
[14:55] Speaker 2: I just asked them. I was like, hey, do you
[14:57] Speaker 2: guys mind if I take a photo? And I started
[14:59] Speaker 2: to take some pictures of the dogs, and I came
[15:03] Speaker 2: home and I was looking through the photos and there
[15:06] Speaker 2: was one photo that I kind of just got this
[15:08] Speaker 2: nudge to look at again, and so I did, and
[15:12] Speaker 2: I saw both two of my dogs were looking off
[15:14] Speaker 2: into the tree line and I zoomed in to see
[15:19] Speaker 2: if there was anything to see, and there was this
[15:22] Speaker 2: kind of I don't know, this like astral image, I
[15:26] Speaker 2: would say, And it was in a stilhouette of a
[15:30] Speaker 2: very large humanoid person being in the trees and it
[15:35] Speaker 2: was all gray. It was like a like a almost
[15:37] Speaker 2: like a luminescent gray, and the dogs were looking straight
[15:41] Speaker 2: at it and it was looking at the dogs and
[15:43] Speaker 2: it was just amaze. So yeah, So I showed that
[15:48] Speaker 2: photo to a couple of people, and I had that
[15:51] Speaker 2: photo for a couple of days on my phone and
[15:55] Speaker 2: I came back a few days later to look at
[15:57] Speaker 2: it again and the image had disappeared. I was I
[16:03] Speaker 2: asked in my mind, I was like, hey, Cole, what
[16:07] Speaker 2: happened to this image? Like why did it disappear? And
[16:10] Speaker 2: the message I got back was because we could And
[16:14] Speaker 2: I thought that was super interesting. So around the same time,
[16:19] Speaker 2: I decided to start this podcast, not really on my
[16:25] Speaker 2: own accord. I'm I have a you know, everyone's got guides,
[16:29] Speaker 2: everyone has higher selves and groups that are assisting them
[16:33] Speaker 2: in spirit. And some of the information that I had
[16:37] Speaker 2: been getting recently was to start a podcast. And that
[16:41] Speaker 2: was really terrifying for me, I discovered because I had
[16:47] Speaker 2: always had kind of an extreme fear of public speaking.
[16:51] Speaker 2: I just I would start shaking and sweating and I
[16:55] Speaker 2: would get so nervous. I didn't I didn't really understand why.
[16:59] Speaker 2: I didn't feel very logical, but I just always kind
[17:02] Speaker 2: of wanted to stay in the background. Probably part of
[17:05] Speaker 2: the reason why I became a shock was because it's
[17:09] Speaker 2: back of the house. You know, you're working away from people,
[17:12] Speaker 2: you're not working in contact with large amounts of people.
[17:17] Speaker 2: So so yeah, so this guidance to start a podcast
[17:23] Speaker 2: really didn't seem very logical to me and felt very
[17:30] Speaker 2: like it was a big challenge. It really was. I
[17:34] Speaker 2: had to go inwards and do do a lot of
[17:37] Speaker 2: shadow work and look at these these kind of core
[17:41] Speaker 2: beliefs that I had had about myself, about public speaking
[17:45] Speaker 2: and self worth and all sorts of stuff. It was,
[17:49] Speaker 2: it was in retrospect. It was a really great experience,
[17:52] Speaker 2: and I am so thankful that I've started this podcast.
[17:56] Speaker 2: But at first it was really hard to tell the truth.
[17:59] Speaker 2: So one of the first people that I actually reached
[18:03] Speaker 2: out to was Mike Patterson of Sasquatch, Ontario. I reached
[18:09] Speaker 2: out to him and I had we got a pretty
[18:13] Speaker 2: we got it, We got a good correspondence going, and
[18:16] Speaker 2: we decided to do an interview together. And so during
[18:20] Speaker 2: this interview we were talking and all of a sudden,
[18:26] Speaker 2: I could I could see these orbs moving around in
[18:29] Speaker 2: his living room behind him, like these lights shooting around
[18:33] Speaker 2: all over the place. And I told him and he
[18:35] Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, that happens all the time. And
[18:38] Speaker 2: so we had this really great conversation and that night,
[18:42] Speaker 2: after the after I'd done the interview, I had this
[18:45] Speaker 2: dream where one of his uh fasquatch contacts came into
[18:51] Speaker 2: the dream and we had this long conversation and it
[18:55] Speaker 2: was really really vivid and very I don't know, it
[18:58] Speaker 2: felt really important. I don't remember what we were talking about,
[19:02] Speaker 2: but it felt very important. And I told Mike about
[19:08] Speaker 2: that afterwards, and we had the discussion and he suggested
[19:11] Speaker 2: that I set up audio in my house, like a
[19:15] Speaker 2: little you know, just turn on, just turn on your phone,
[19:17] Speaker 2: turn on the recorder, go into meditation, see what happens.
[19:21] Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get something. I went into a quiet room,
[19:27] Speaker 2: you know, closed all the doors, turned up, all the
[19:29] Speaker 2: all the lights, electronics, anything buzzing, and I turned the
[19:33] Speaker 2: phone on and I asked my forest friends. I asked
[19:37] Speaker 2: them if they would like to come in and make
[19:39] Speaker 2: some no, you know, make some sounds. And then I
[19:42] Speaker 2: went into meditation and I listened to the recording back,
[19:47] Speaker 2: and after about ten minutes of being in meditation, I
[19:51] Speaker 2: started to hear this really low kind of what sounded
[19:54] Speaker 2: almost like me. It sounded like a pigeon sized moth
[20:00] Speaker 2: kind of flying around my head. You could hear it.
[20:02] Speaker 2: It was all that went on for a couple of minutes,
[20:08] Speaker 2: and it would go in and out, and then I
[20:10] Speaker 2: started hearing some grunt and I heard, oh, like these
[20:16] Speaker 2: really guttural kind of grunts. I yeah, that was amazing.
[20:23] Speaker 2: I didn't know that they could come into the house,
[20:26] Speaker 2: you know, and make these sounds, but they I mean,
[20:30] Speaker 2: I felt them as they came in. But the way
[20:33] Speaker 2: that they are able to manipulate electronics and I just
[20:40] Speaker 2: feel like they're masters of energy. They really are. It's
[20:44] Speaker 2: incredible the stuff that they can do. I had I
[20:49] Speaker 2: had an apple tree, well I have it's still in
[20:52] Speaker 2: the backyard, and at around the same time, I would
[20:56] Speaker 2: I started going out into the woods at night by
[20:58] Speaker 2: my house about there's a spot about six six minutes away,
[21:02] Speaker 2: so it's really easy for me to get out there.
[21:05] Speaker 2: And I would start going out there during the day
[21:07] Speaker 2: and at night too, just to try to commune with
[21:13] Speaker 2: with the spirit of the forest and with all of
[21:16] Speaker 2: the interdimensionals. And I just felt more of a growing
[21:22] Speaker 2: relationship with these beings, and so I just felt this
[21:25] Speaker 2: kind of compulsion to go out there, and so I
[21:28] Speaker 2: started going out there more and more. And I had
[21:31] Speaker 2: this apple tree that was growing so many apples, and
[21:36] Speaker 2: it was it was getting to the point where all
[21:39] Speaker 2: these apples were on the ground and my dogs were
[21:41] Speaker 2: eating them, and it was it was kind of a mess,
[21:45] Speaker 2: so kind of as I don't know, just off the cuff,
[21:48] Speaker 2: I kind of told my friends. I was like, hey,
[21:50] Speaker 2: come into my yard and eat some of these apples.
[21:54] Speaker 2: Have so many, you know. And then the next night
[21:58] Speaker 2: I was going to bed and the windows were open
[22:01] Speaker 2: and I smelled this, like this really skunky odor, like
[22:06] Speaker 2: not super not wretched, not super bad, but it was
[22:11] Speaker 2: really very noticeable, and so I went outside to see
[22:15] Speaker 2: if there was a skunk in the backyard. But I
[22:17] Speaker 2: went out and the smell was gone, Like there was
[22:21] Speaker 2: absolutely no skunk smell in the yard at all, And
[22:27] Speaker 2: I thought that was really weird. So I just kind
[22:30] Speaker 2: of sat down in a chair and I was looking
[22:32] Speaker 2: at the sky and I saw a couple of little
[22:35] Speaker 2: orbs kind of litting around in the trees in my backyard,
[22:40] Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, that's really pretty. I wonder
[22:42] Speaker 2: who that is. And I went back in the house
[22:44] Speaker 2: and went to sleep. And then the next morning I
[22:46] Speaker 2: came out and in the apple tree, probably about nine
[22:51] Speaker 2: feet up, there was an apple with one giant bite
[22:54] Speaker 2: taken out of it and put into the crook of
[22:59] Speaker 2: some of the branches, and that was that was really funny.
[23:02] Speaker 2: I love I love their jokes. They are just the
[23:07] Speaker 2: They have the best sense of humor because I feel
[23:11] Speaker 2: like they can they can pick things out of your
[23:13] Speaker 2: mind and show them to you later and it's just uncanny.
[23:18] Speaker 2: I love it so at around the same time when
[23:23] Speaker 2: I first started my podcast, I reached out to a
[23:28] Speaker 2: man named Kawani Lapseritis, who is He's a long time
[23:34] Speaker 2: Sasquatch ufo et experiencer and he's written a few books.
[23:40] Speaker 2: One of them is called The Psychic Sasquatch, and I
[23:46] Speaker 2: think another one the multi Dimensional Sasquatch. He's written a
[23:51] Speaker 2: bunch of books. But I reached out to him. He
[23:54] Speaker 2: lives in Dacoma, I want to say, in Washington, and
[24:00] Speaker 2: just to see if he wanted to be a guest
[24:01] Speaker 2: on the show. And he called me back and we
[24:05] Speaker 2: had a really great, really great conversation talking about his
[24:10] Speaker 2: history with the Sasquatch people and the work that he
[24:15] Speaker 2: has done with them, and we were sitting around talking.
[24:21] Speaker 2: I was in my backyard talking on the phone with
[24:23] Speaker 2: him and it was getting to me nighttime, and while
[24:28] Speaker 2: we were on the phone, all of a sudden, I
[24:30] Speaker 2: hear a whole group of coyotes start howling, and I
[24:34] Speaker 2: had never We had lived here for two years and
[24:36] Speaker 2: I had never heard that before, and so I felt
[24:40] Speaker 2: like that was a pretty good sign. So I ended
[24:42] Speaker 2: up along with doing the interview with Kiwani. He taught
[24:46] Speaker 2: me a lot about working with herbs and how to
[24:50] Speaker 2: use a pendulum and how to douse out energies, and
[24:54] Speaker 2: it was a wonderful experience working with him. But during
[25:01] Speaker 2: the course of working with him, he asked me to
[25:03] Speaker 2: send him a topographical map of my area and he
[25:07] Speaker 2: would douse out where the Sasquatch people were. And so
[25:12] Speaker 2: I did, and he sent me this map back with
[25:15] Speaker 2: different areas to go to, and so I started going
[25:17] Speaker 2: there and one of the areas that he had doused
[25:21] Speaker 2: out was, like I said, six minutes away. And so
[25:26] Speaker 2: I went into this forest that I had no idea
[25:30] Speaker 2: even existed. I lived here a while and I was like, wow,
[25:33] Speaker 2: this is right around the corner. How cool. And he
[25:37] Speaker 2: told me, he was like, if you want to connect
[25:39] Speaker 2: to them, just go into the woods and bring a book.
[25:44] Speaker 2: You know, sit down, find a nice tree to sit
[25:46] Speaker 2: at and just spend some time, spend some quiet time
[25:51] Speaker 2: in meditation or reading a book, or just doing something
[25:54] Speaker 2: that's fun. You could bring you could bring a drum or,
[25:57] Speaker 2: you could bring a guitar and play some music, you know,
[26:01] Speaker 2: bring your dog. Just have fun and open your heart.
[26:04] Speaker 2: And that's what that's the energy that attracts them. And
[26:08] Speaker 2: so I started going out to these woods that were
[26:11] Speaker 2: so close to my house, and I noticed right away
[26:14] Speaker 2: that there were signs right there. I could feel the
[26:19] Speaker 2: energy of the woods. As soon as I walked in.
[26:21] Speaker 2: My feet would start buzzing and I would start hearing
[26:24] Speaker 2: different frequencies, and I was like, Wow, this place is
[26:28] Speaker 2: so magical. And I found a tree and I sat down,
[26:34] Speaker 2: and my whole body just starts buzzing, and I was
[26:38] Speaker 2: just like, oh my gosh. I felt like I was
[26:40] Speaker 2: really meant to be there. And so I just spent
[26:44] Speaker 2: as much time as I could out in those woods.
[26:46] Speaker 2: I would be out there every day and every every night,
[26:49] Speaker 2: spending some time at night. And I started seeing footprints again,
[26:56] Speaker 2: and I started seeing different little little signs that they
[27:00] Speaker 2: were around, like glyphs that would start seeing glyphs everywhere,
[27:04] Speaker 2: and the tree that I sat at start it came
[27:08] Speaker 2: one day and there was a ring of branches around
[27:11] Speaker 2: the tree. And it's a pine forest. I understand that
[27:16] Speaker 2: the lower branches fall, and you know, I know that's
[27:19] Speaker 2: a thing, but this was like a concentric circle around
[27:23] Speaker 2: around this particular tree, and it looked very out of place,
[27:26] Speaker 2: and I just thought that that was another sign from them.
[27:30] Speaker 2: So I kept sitting at that tree, and after a while,
[27:36] Speaker 2: I started seeing these big x's in the trees everywhere,
[27:40] Speaker 2: like different branches being pushed over and turned into x's.
[27:44] Speaker 2: And then I started seeing kind of epy like little structures,
[27:51] Speaker 2: and it just felt like they were just giving me
[27:54] Speaker 2: more and more clues to look at. I would start
[27:57] Speaker 2: to find feathers at the meditation tree, like laced at
[28:00] Speaker 2: the tree, and I started seeing these y shaped sticks
[28:06] Speaker 2: everywhere everywhere, and I didn't understand what the meaning of
[28:09] Speaker 2: that was, but I would see x's and a's and
[28:13] Speaker 2: y shaped sticks all over the place and the feathers.
[28:17] Speaker 2: And one day I was walking in these woods and
[28:22] Speaker 2: this was after talking to Barb Shoop. I think the
[28:25] Speaker 2: first time that I talked to her. This was a
[28:28] Speaker 2: while back and we were having a discussion about all
[28:32] Speaker 2: of the I love the structures. I feel like there's
[28:36] Speaker 2: something so special about these structures. I personally, my intuitive
[28:41] Speaker 2: feeling is that a lot of them. I'm sure some
[28:44] Speaker 2: of them are markers for territory and there's there's certain
[28:48] Speaker 2: meaning for some of these, but I feel like a
[28:50] Speaker 2: lot of them are really just artistic creative expression too.
[28:56] Speaker 2: I feel like they're so beautiful and they just give
[28:59] Speaker 2: you to a warm, nice feeling, some of them. And
[29:03] Speaker 2: so I was talking to Barb about this, and I
[29:05] Speaker 2: was telling her, I'm like, I've only seen kind of
[29:08] Speaker 2: little glyphs and little things here and there. But then
[29:13] Speaker 2: after that conversation, like the next week, I was walking
[29:17] Speaker 2: down the same trail that I've gone down, you know,
[29:20] Speaker 2: every day for a long time, and I saw this.
[29:24] Speaker 2: The way that it was placed, it was almost like
[29:27] Speaker 2: almost invisible for you to see unless you were kind
[29:30] Speaker 2: of craning your neck a certain way. I see this
[29:34] Speaker 2: long arch tree that was kind of woven in together
[29:40] Speaker 2: with another tree at the tip of the branches, and
[29:45] Speaker 2: then all of these parallel sticks were placed up above
[29:49] Speaker 2: it and up against it. It was so hard to see,
[29:54] Speaker 2: but I saw something that looked like parallel sticks, and
[29:57] Speaker 2: I was like, what is that? And I walked in
[30:00] Speaker 2: to like off the trail and into the next to
[30:03] Speaker 2: the structure, and the thing turns out to be like
[30:05] Speaker 2: twenty twenty five feet long. It was enormous, and I
[30:10] Speaker 2: couldn't believe that I had been walking the same trail
[30:13] Speaker 2: for so long and I hadn't seen it. But I
[30:15] Speaker 2: feel like maybe sometimes you have to kind of raise
[30:20] Speaker 2: your frequency enough to be able to see some of
[30:23] Speaker 2: these things. So after that, I started seeing bigger structures
[30:28] Speaker 2: in the woods and just I would see more so
[30:33] Speaker 2: many feathers, lots of feathers, but yeah, let me see.
[30:38] Speaker 2: Oh and about that time, when I would go out
[30:40] Speaker 2: into the woods at night, at this certain trailhead, I
[30:46] Speaker 2: started seeing orbs. And these weren't the kind of orbs
[30:50] Speaker 2: that I had seen before. These were really big. These
[30:55] Speaker 2: were really big white orbs that would come that would
[31:00] Speaker 2: kind of manifest over the trees and then float over
[31:04] Speaker 2: your head or you know, they clearly had some sort
[31:08] Speaker 2: of sentience about them, like they clearly had an intelligence.
[31:12] Speaker 2: And I didn't know what I was seeing, but I
[31:17] Speaker 2: would get almost like blasted with this love frequency from
[31:23] Speaker 2: these orbs. They would open up my heart chakra and
[31:25] Speaker 2: it was so intense that sometimes it would make me cry,
[31:29] Speaker 2: how this energy would hit my body. You know, it
[31:37] Speaker 2: was almost too much sometimes. And so going out into
[31:41] Speaker 2: the woods almost seemed like a very personal sort of experience.
[31:47] Speaker 2: And people have asked me why I haven't taken more
[31:50] Speaker 2: photos of these orbs, and that that's why. I always
[31:53] Speaker 2: felt like it was a very special personal sort of thing.
[31:59] Speaker 2: And so I would go out there almost every night
[32:02] Speaker 2: and just just talk to them about my day or
[32:05] Speaker 2: tell them, you know, things that I was thinking and feeling,
[32:10] Speaker 2: and I would get a response I would get I
[32:14] Speaker 2: would get a response from these from this orb action.
[32:18] Speaker 2: And a lot of the orbs were coming from this
[32:22] Speaker 2: one certain cluster of trees that was probably about, I
[32:27] Speaker 2: don't know, forty feet away from me, not too far away.
[32:30] Speaker 2: And so I finally decided to check out those trees
[32:35] Speaker 2: during the day, and I went and checked them out,
[32:38] Speaker 2: and there was a structure inside of this little cluster
[32:42] Speaker 2: of trees, like they were almost building a little little
[32:46] Speaker 2: fence or a little like a wall or something, and
[32:51] Speaker 2: something about that really kind of I don't know, I
[32:59] Speaker 2: don't know. I had. I had quite an emotional response
[33:02] Speaker 2: to that, because it almost felt like connecting, like another
[33:07] Speaker 2: layer of connecting the dots, Like, these guys aren't just
[33:11] Speaker 2: an archetypal energy. These guys aren't just in a different dimension,
[33:17] Speaker 2: you know. These are real beings in our three D
[33:22] Speaker 2: reality that could build things and throw giant rocks at
[33:28] Speaker 2: you and build these amazing structures. Something about that it
[33:35] Speaker 2: was like, Wow, this is not in my mind. This
[33:38] Speaker 2: is actually really really happening. And yeah, so that was
[33:45] Speaker 2: that was super That was a big deal for me.
[33:48] Speaker 2: And then let me back up a little bit. So
[33:52] Speaker 2: I want to say, in the summer of twenty twenty three,
[33:57] Speaker 2: around when I started seeing the footprints, this was more
[34:01] Speaker 2: into the summer. This was a few months after I
[34:04] Speaker 2: started seeing the footprints. I was in the same Wetlands
[34:08] Speaker 2: area walking my dogs down an old logging road and
[34:13] Speaker 2: it was it was blazing hot. It was like ninety degrees,
[34:17] Speaker 2: which is really hot for the Upper Peninsula in Michigan.
[34:20] Speaker 2: And we were all walking along this road and I
[34:23] Speaker 2: have two younger dogs and one older one, and we
[34:26] Speaker 2: were just walking and the older one was kind of
[34:30] Speaker 2: lagging behind, so I turned around to ask them to
[34:32] Speaker 2: hurry up, and I heard in my mind very clearly,
[34:36] Speaker 2: look wait, and I was looking behind me, so I'm like, okay,
[34:41] Speaker 2: I'll continue to look and wait. And as I'm looking,
[34:44] Speaker 2: I see this big, all black humanoid being walk up
[34:53] Speaker 2: out of the woods and across the logging road and
[34:56] Speaker 2: back into the other side of the woods. And this
[35:00] Speaker 2: wetlands is very I've only ever seen one or two
[35:04] Speaker 2: people at the same time as me, and this is
[35:07] Speaker 2: an enormous area. I would miles and miles of woods
[35:12] Speaker 2: and there were no cars within sight of There were
[35:17] Speaker 2: only two places at the park, no cars. There was
[35:19] Speaker 2: no one else there, and for me to see that
[35:23] Speaker 2: was really it was so strange. But at the same time,
[35:27] Speaker 2: my brain immediately went to, oh, that's weird. Why is
[35:31] Speaker 2: somebody walking around in a snowmobile suit in a ski
[35:35] Speaker 2: cap when it's ninety degrees out. That's really strange. But
[35:41] Speaker 2: only then later did I kind of realize exactly what
[35:43] Speaker 2: I saw, because you know, it still took my brain
[35:49] Speaker 2: a long time to even come to that conclusion because
[35:52] Speaker 2: I was so just I don't know, maybe part of
[35:56] Speaker 2: myself felt like I wasn't special enough to start seeing
[35:59] Speaker 2: this stuff up or something. I'm not sure, but it
[36:02] Speaker 2: was really hard for me to come to that conclusion
[36:04] Speaker 2: that this is what I was seeing. So I had
[36:07] Speaker 2: that experience, and that figure was only about not even
[36:13] Speaker 2: a probably a quarter of a mile away, so I
[36:16] Speaker 2: didn't really get too much detail. But they were very tall,
[36:21] Speaker 2: I would say about seven feet tall, and kind of
[36:24] Speaker 2: more of a I know it was a juvenile at
[36:29] Speaker 2: this point they were. They were more lanky and kind
[36:32] Speaker 2: of like a swimmers build. I know who it was now,
[36:35] Speaker 2: but at the time I didn't, and so yeah, that's
[36:39] Speaker 2: kind of just that's what I thought. And then you know,
[36:43] Speaker 2: stuff starts to continue. I start seeing the orbs in
[36:46] Speaker 2: the in the woods and start seeing eyeshine and these
[36:52] Speaker 2: different like pulsing lights within within the trees, and this
[36:58] Speaker 2: just continues for a while. And then one night I
[37:03] Speaker 2: go out to the woods after work and it was
[37:07] Speaker 2: again it was in winter time. It was probably about
[37:10] Speaker 2: eight degrees outside. It was freezing, but it was clear,
[37:13] Speaker 2: and it was so beautiful and the moon was really bright,
[37:18] Speaker 2: so the moon was really reflective over the snow and
[37:22] Speaker 2: you could see a lot better into the tree line.
[37:25] Speaker 2: And so I went out and I'm talking to my friends,
[37:28] Speaker 2: telling them about my day at work and stuff, and
[37:32] Speaker 2: that was kind of my routine. I just a friend
[37:34] Speaker 2: of mine, Ginger Lockwood, she told me that if you
[37:37] Speaker 2: just go out there and just just talk to them
[37:40] Speaker 2: like they're your friends, that that really helps with them
[37:45] Speaker 2: feeling comfortable with you. So I started doing that, and
[37:48] Speaker 2: so I told them about my day and everything that
[37:51] Speaker 2: was happening. And I was getting into my car and
[37:54] Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I love you guys, Thank you
[37:56] Speaker 2: Spirit of the Woods, and you know, everybody, thank you you.
[38:01] Speaker 2: And as I get into the car, I felt my
[38:06] Speaker 2: body just start to vibrate, Like the top of my
[38:08] Speaker 2: head starts vibrating, my whole body starts buzzing really hard,
[38:12] Speaker 2: and like my lips went numb, and it felt like
[38:16] Speaker 2: it don't It felt like my frequency had gotten raised
[38:20] Speaker 2: quite a bit. And I now realized that's what they
[38:23] Speaker 2: do in order to get me to be able to
[38:26] Speaker 2: see them, but I didn't understand that at the time.
[38:30] Speaker 2: So I just all of a sudden, I just got
[38:33] Speaker 2: really dizzy and just lightheaded, and my whole body's buzzing,
[38:37] Speaker 2: and I'm just like, what the heck is going on here?
[38:40] Speaker 2: And luckily I was able to make it home. I
[38:44] Speaker 2: drove really slowly and carefully, and I get home. I
[38:48] Speaker 2: get into the driveway and I get out of the
[38:52] Speaker 2: car and look outside above me, because the big Dipper
[38:57] Speaker 2: was right above me, and I was just looking at it,
[39:00] Speaker 2: thinking how beautiful it was. And then I looked down
[39:04] Speaker 2: to go into my front porch and I see a
[39:07] Speaker 2: very large black shape of a person, of a human
[39:13] Speaker 2: noid shape run past in between my houses. And it
[39:18] Speaker 2: was very quick, but it was this like this this
[39:23] Speaker 2: loping sort of gate with like whoever it was had
[39:27] Speaker 2: really long arms and they were kind of stooped over
[39:30] Speaker 2: and they just ran really fast past the house. And
[39:36] Speaker 2: again my first thought was to think that that's strange
[39:43] Speaker 2: that a jagger would be out at midnight and it's
[39:46] Speaker 2: only eight degrees and why are they running past in
[39:48] Speaker 2: between my houses? So that was really that was another
[39:54] Speaker 2: interesting experience. Do what else? Oh? Yeah, So I have
[40:02] Speaker 2: a friend named Chris that I met through the podcast,
[40:07] Speaker 2: and he lives in Connecticut. He is a master energy worker,
[40:14] Speaker 2: he's a chigong master and he's really just an amazing person.
[40:19] Speaker 2: And so I met him through the podcast and we
[40:22] Speaker 2: got to be friends and it was kind of a
[40:27] Speaker 2: really interesting time for him because when he met me,
[40:31] Speaker 2: he had mentioned He's like, I don't know why, but
[40:34] Speaker 2: I've been thinking about Sasquatch a lot lately. I don't
[40:37] Speaker 2: understand why. And I was like, okay, that's I mean,
[40:41] Speaker 2: that's kind of it seems like that happens with me
[40:43] Speaker 2: a lot. I'll meet people at this period where they
[40:47] Speaker 2: they're just starting to think about this stuff, and then
[40:49] Speaker 2: after talking to me, they tend to have more experiences.
[40:54] Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's related, but that's kind
[40:57] Speaker 2: of just the way it's gone. So we got to
[41:01] Speaker 2: be friends and we were talking about each other's experiences.
[41:06] Speaker 2: He hadn't had anything like that happen, but he did
[41:09] Speaker 2: live kind of out in a very rural area in Connecticut,
[41:14] Speaker 2: and we lost touch for a few months, but then
[41:17] Speaker 2: out of nowhere, I kind of had this urge to
[41:21] Speaker 2: text him and see how he was doing. And he
[41:24] Speaker 2: got back to me right away. He's like, we have
[41:26] Speaker 2: to do another show. We have to this is I
[41:28] Speaker 2: have so much new information, and so we set up
[41:33] Speaker 2: a show and I was doing this podcast with him,
[41:36] Speaker 2: and during the conversation was he had written a list
[41:40] Speaker 2: of all the things that had happened to him, and
[41:42] Speaker 2: he was reading this list off and he was telling
[41:45] Speaker 2: me about a certain dream that he had had back
[41:48] Speaker 2: in November of twenty three, I think it was, and
[41:51] Speaker 2: he was telling me that he encountered this large male
[41:56] Speaker 2: Sasquatch and his name was Cole. When I heard that,
[42:03] Speaker 2: it definitely gave me pause. I was like, wait a second,
[42:06] Speaker 2: how do you spell it? And he said kol And
[42:12] Speaker 2: I just I couldn't believe it because that was my
[42:15] Speaker 2: contact from here, the one that I have lots of
[42:19] Speaker 2: telepathic contact with. It blew me away that he's contacting
[42:24] Speaker 2: other friends of mine, and kind of in the dream,
[42:29] Speaker 2: he was telling Chris about how the Sasquatch people are
[42:33] Speaker 2: very upset about how we've been treating the planet, how
[42:37] Speaker 2: we've been mining and blogging and just being extremely disrespectful
[42:45] Speaker 2: towards ourselves and towards the planet, and how they are
[42:49] Speaker 2: reaching out to some of us that are able to
[42:53] Speaker 2: connect with them in order to start working with us
[42:57] Speaker 2: again and to start showing us that there is a
[43:01] Speaker 2: way to there's a way to live on Earth and
[43:03] Speaker 2: not kind of crash it, you know. So, yeah, So,
[43:10] Speaker 2: since Cole has reached out to a few other of
[43:14] Speaker 2: my friends and started working with them as well, which
[43:17] Speaker 2: I thought was really really amazing. I mean, I know
[43:23] Speaker 2: a lot of people still think that these beings are
[43:27] Speaker 2: flushed and blood apes or you know, something similar to this,
[43:34] Speaker 2: but I really do believe that they kind of exist
[43:38] Speaker 2: in between frequencies, in between worlds, and they can come
[43:44] Speaker 2: into our world whenever they want. I mean, maybe there
[43:46] Speaker 2: are different maybe there's different types. I'm not really sure,
[43:50] Speaker 2: but I know that some of them at least can
[43:53] Speaker 2: just have these amazing abilities and they do want to
[43:57] Speaker 2: connect with us and work with us. So I h yeah,
[44:02] Speaker 2: it's been an ongoing journey. Oh yeah. But recently I
[44:09] Speaker 2: started getting the nudge, probably about six months ago to
[44:12] Speaker 2: go to Oregon, and in particular to go to the
[44:18] Speaker 2: Gifford Hincha National Forest, which I had never even heard of.
[44:22] Speaker 2: I just got this message to go there, and you know,
[44:28] Speaker 2: I kind of put it off and put it off
[44:30] Speaker 2: because of life circumstances, and then suddenly an opportunity came
[44:36] Speaker 2: up and I bought a ticket to go out there.
[44:39] Speaker 2: And I had lived in Portland for a few years
[44:42] Speaker 2: back in my twenties, and I still have some friends
[44:45] Speaker 2: who live out there. So a couple friends of mine
[44:48] Speaker 2: and I we ended up renting one of the old
[44:54] Speaker 2: Forest Service like fire watching guard station cabins in the
[45:00] Speaker 2: Gifford pinch Att National Forests off of I can't even
[45:04] Speaker 2: remember where it was, but anyway, it was one of
[45:07] Speaker 2: those old guard station cabins and it was built in
[45:12] Speaker 2: the early nineteen hundred. It's just this old, tiny, tiny
[45:18] Speaker 2: cabin and it was incredible. It was really really just
[45:26] Speaker 2: the whole experience blew me away. But I just got
[45:30] Speaker 2: the nudge and so we did it. And I wasn't
[45:32] Speaker 2: really expecting very much as far as connecting with any
[45:38] Speaker 2: other sasquash people out there. But the friends that I
[45:42] Speaker 2: went out there with were both nurses and both very
[45:45] Speaker 2: intuitive and just very very open hearted people, and so
[45:52] Speaker 2: it was kind of more of a friend or reunion
[45:54] Speaker 2: than anything else I was thinking at the time. But
[45:58] Speaker 2: we get to this cabin and set up all of
[46:03] Speaker 2: our food supplies and everything and get unpacked and let
[46:10] Speaker 2: me see and we were we were eating dinner and
[46:13] Speaker 2: just hanging out having a blast. I hadn't seen them
[46:16] Speaker 2: in over twenty years, so it was it was really amazing.
[46:20] Speaker 2: It was a really cool experience. But we had dinner
[46:23] Speaker 2: and then we were playing with like these puzzles. I
[46:27] Speaker 2: think it was like a Charlie Brown Peanuts puzzle we
[46:30] Speaker 2: were putting together. And I was so tired because I
[46:34] Speaker 2: had just blown in and I was kind of jet lagged,
[46:36] Speaker 2: and so I was just laying on this futon in
[46:38] Speaker 2: the living room. Well, they're putting this puzzle together, and
[46:41] Speaker 2: they were kind of making fun of me for falling
[46:43] Speaker 2: asleep so early, but they finally decided to pack it
[46:48] Speaker 2: in and go to sleep, and so I just stayed
[46:51] Speaker 2: on the futon. I was so tired, I was still
[46:53] Speaker 2: in all of my clothes, and I just got into
[46:56] Speaker 2: a sleeping bag and kind of passed out. And so
[47:00] Speaker 2: they went to bed, and I was sleeping on the
[47:03] Speaker 2: ground floor and there was this big window right behind me,
[47:08] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, I just
[47:11] Speaker 2: snapped awake. I was wide awake, and I knew that
[47:15] Speaker 2: there was something right there. There was something. There was
[47:17] Speaker 2: something that woke me up. I was like, oh gosh,
[47:20] Speaker 2: what's going on? And I was pretty disoriented but still
[47:24] Speaker 2: completely alert, and I started hearing outside this boom boom,
[47:33] Speaker 2: boom boom. There was something walking on two legs around
[47:41] Speaker 2: this cabin, and I was so it really, I think
[47:48] Speaker 2: that was one of the only times, besides the banging
[47:50] Speaker 2: on the roof, that was the only other time that
[47:52] Speaker 2: I've been frightened in this whole this whole journey, because
[47:57] Speaker 2: I didn't know who it was. I didn't know if
[47:58] Speaker 2: it was if they were friendly, or if they didn't
[48:04] Speaker 2: want us here. I wasn't I wasn't quite sure, and
[48:07] Speaker 2: so I kept hearing these footsteps, these large, booming footsteps,
[48:11] Speaker 2: walking around the cabin, and then they stopped directly behind me,
[48:15] Speaker 2: probably five feet away, I want to say, And I
[48:19] Speaker 2: could feel them looking in through the window, and just
[48:24] Speaker 2: my whole body is just buzzing again because I'm not
[48:27] Speaker 2: sure why, but I can feel their energy very very clearly,
[48:32] Speaker 2: and so my whole body is buzzing, and I'm so scared,
[48:36] Speaker 2: and I just said, in my mind, can you please,
[48:39] Speaker 2: you guys are really freaking me out. Can you please
[48:41] Speaker 2: just back up a little bit. Your energy is very intense.
[48:46] Speaker 2: And after I said that, I felt all of this
[48:52] Speaker 2: fear getting stucked out of my chest and like up
[48:56] Speaker 2: out of my head, like I literally I literally felt
[49:03] Speaker 2: it getting stucked out of my head, and after that
[49:07] Speaker 2: I felt great. I was like, Okay, I can deal
[49:09] Speaker 2: with this, okay, And then somehow I fell asleep. I
[49:13] Speaker 2: fell back asleep, and then what seemed like very soon after,
[49:18] Speaker 2: I woke up again because I heard the footsteps again
[49:21] Speaker 2: around the cabin, and at that point I just went
[49:25] Speaker 2: I had to go upstairs. I was I was just
[49:29] Speaker 2: too it was it was too much for me. It
[49:33] Speaker 2: was too intense. And so I went upstairs to one
[49:36] Speaker 2: of the bedrooms and I crawled into the bunk, the
[49:39] Speaker 2: top bunk bed. And as I as I laid my
[49:42] Speaker 2: head down on the bed, one of my friends she goes, Gina,
[49:48] Speaker 2: do you hear that? What is that? And I just
[49:55] Speaker 2: told her, no, that's fine, don't worry about it, you know,
[49:58] Speaker 2: like it'll be fine. I don't hear anything. I didn't
[50:03] Speaker 2: want to freak her out, and so, you know, I
[50:06] Speaker 2: just I was like, we'll just wait until the morning.
[50:09] Speaker 2: And we woke up in the morning and we're having breakfast,
[50:12] Speaker 2: and only one of my friends ended up hearing it.
[50:15] Speaker 2: The other one, who was sleeping in the bunk under me,
[50:18] Speaker 2: was passed out the whole night, so she was just like,
[50:22] Speaker 2: what what was that? I had no idea what that was.
[50:25] Speaker 2: And I showed her what is it the Bigfoot Mapping
[50:29] Speaker 2: Project and the BFRO map because I had taken screenshots
[50:34] Speaker 2: because I was curious, and so I showed her and
[50:38] Speaker 2: it was like, said, well, I mean could be this,
[50:40] Speaker 2: and you know, she blew it off. But the whole
[50:46] Speaker 2: next day, you know, we went hiking, we went to
[50:48] Speaker 2: this waterfall, and we went exploring all over in the area,
[50:52] Speaker 2: but you could tell that everybody was pretty frazzled. We
[50:56] Speaker 2: were all pretty frazzled. And time we got back to
[51:01] Speaker 2: the cabin, it was probably about four and it was
[51:06] Speaker 2: the sun was starting to set, and we were all
[51:08] Speaker 2: just kind of joking around and I was like, yeah,
[51:10] Speaker 2: I'd spend the night here again. I would totally stay
[51:13] Speaker 2: here by myself. But by seven, when the sun had
[51:17] Speaker 2: gone down, there was no way, there is no way
[51:21] Speaker 2: I would stay there by myself. It was so the
[51:26] Speaker 2: just the energy of the fort like it was so spooky.
[51:33] Speaker 2: I mean, that was the That's the only word I
[51:34] Speaker 2: can really describe it. It was so spooky. And I
[51:38] Speaker 2: really really did feel just so many eyes on us
[51:41] Speaker 2: the whole time, and not in nothing like a like
[51:47] Speaker 2: a malevolent way or anything like that, but I really
[51:50] Speaker 2: just felt very observed. So anyway, so we had dinner,
[51:56] Speaker 2: and you know, we're hanging out again. We decided to
[51:59] Speaker 2: go to bed, and I just just saying to myself,
[52:02] Speaker 2: I don't want that to happen again. Let's not been
[52:05] Speaker 2: let's not let's not have that happen again, guys. And
[52:11] Speaker 2: I didn't hear footsteps that night, but I did wake
[52:15] Speaker 2: up at four in the morning with the message go outside,
[52:21] Speaker 2: and so I didn't really want to because of the
[52:24] Speaker 2: spookiness factor, but I went out there and sat on
[52:28] Speaker 2: this little stump and I waited and it was so dark,
[52:34] Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I turned my head
[52:35] Speaker 2: and look, and there's one of those big, beautiful white
[52:39] Speaker 2: orbs that floats through the trees and over my head
[52:42] Speaker 2: and gave me that same love frequency, and it was
[52:46] Speaker 2: so beautiful. It was it really just felt like a
[52:51] Speaker 2: welcoming and that was very special. So and then we
[52:57] Speaker 2: left the next day and that was that was my
[53:00] Speaker 2: experience in the Gifford Pinchip Forest. And during that same
[53:07] Speaker 2: trip to Portland, I ended up going to there's an
[53:11] Speaker 2: enormous forest in the city of Portland, called Forest Park,
[53:16] Speaker 2: and there are I think I read eighty miles of
[53:21] Speaker 2: trails in this park. It's enormous and it's a gorgeous
[53:26] Speaker 2: just a gorgeous, beautiful place to be. So I had
[53:30] Speaker 2: been there with my wife back in twenty sixteen, but
[53:35] Speaker 2: we didn't really get a chance to walk around too much.
[53:37] Speaker 2: So I wanted to go back. I had gotten nudged
[53:40] Speaker 2: again to like, it's important for you to go here,
[53:43] Speaker 2: go here. So I came in the middle of the day.
[53:46] Speaker 2: It was on my last day before i'd fly back Michigan,
[53:52] Speaker 2: and I drive up to the parking lot and there's
[53:55] Speaker 2: a big sign right there dating you know, the history
[53:59] Speaker 2: and all this stuff. And so I'm taking a picture
[54:01] Speaker 2: of it for my wife to show her that I'm here.
[54:04] Speaker 2: And as soon as I click the picture, I hear this,
[54:08] Speaker 2: oh oh out we are so echoey and so loud,
[54:15] Speaker 2: and I I knew exactly what that was. I knew
[54:20] Speaker 2: it was samurai chatter. But part of me thought, for
[54:26] Speaker 2: a second, you know, maybe it was somebody having a
[54:29] Speaker 2: really hard time, but I just knew what it was. Instinctively.
[54:34] Speaker 2: I knew it was somebody. It was one of the
[54:35] Speaker 2: sasquatch people reaching out to me, and so that was incredible.
[54:42] Speaker 2: I never heard that before and it was I feel
[54:46] Speaker 2: so privileged to be able to have had that experience.
[54:51] Speaker 2: But so I'm walking in forest park and I find
[54:57] Speaker 2: a little trail, a little side trail, and I start
[54:59] Speaker 2: walking down on it and I sit down on a log,
[55:04] Speaker 2: and something told me to do a land clearing, which
[55:09] Speaker 2: is part of I'm a healer. I'm a metaphysician. I
[55:15] Speaker 2: do intuitive work with people on a one to one basis,
[55:20] Speaker 2: and so part of what I can do is I
[55:23] Speaker 2: can do house clearings and land clearings, and I can
[55:26] Speaker 2: help people work with their energetic fields. And so I
[55:31] Speaker 2: just started doing my thing, and I started doing this
[55:35] Speaker 2: land clearing for the entire park, and at some point
[55:39] Speaker 2: I felt all of these different beings come in to
[55:42] Speaker 2: support me, and it felt the energy just increased and
[55:47] Speaker 2: it just went like brain, My energy increased and it
[55:53] Speaker 2: was so wonderful and supportive. And it was lasted for
[55:58] Speaker 2: probably about half an hour, and then I started hearing
[56:04] Speaker 2: large three branches snapping and twigs breaking and shuffling. I
[56:12] Speaker 2: was on the on the edge of this very deep
[56:16] Speaker 2: hill and at the bottom I could hear what steps
[56:20] Speaker 2: and it was such an amazing experience. It was so
[56:26] Speaker 2: so beautiful. And so I got done with the clearing
[56:31] Speaker 2: and I said thank you for the assistance, Thank you everyone,
[56:34] Speaker 2: and I and I left and yeah, So I also
[56:42] Speaker 2: in Portland, I met my friend Ashley Stinnett who he
[56:48] Speaker 2: had been featured on the Flash Beauty documentary and I
[56:52] Speaker 2: had reached out to her after I had seen that
[56:55] Speaker 2: interview because I knew for some reason that we were
[56:58] Speaker 2: supposed to talk, and so we ended up doing an
[57:02] Speaker 2: interview together and we've become friends through that. And so
[57:07] Speaker 2: I met her in Portland and she has been researching
[57:11] Speaker 2: in Mount Tabor, which is another park in Paran in Portland,
[57:16] Speaker 2: and she's done amazing, amazing research in that park. She
[57:20] Speaker 2: has found incredible structures and all sorts of evidence of
[57:25] Speaker 2: the fast Qutch people being in these public spaces, which
[57:30] Speaker 2: is so incredible because we always kind of assume that
[57:35] Speaker 2: these beings are really far out, like in these extreme
[57:39] Speaker 2: wilderness areas, and it's just not true. I mean, they
[57:43] Speaker 2: can come into my house, they can come into our yards,
[57:47] Speaker 2: they exist right alongside of us. So that trip was
[57:55] Speaker 2: realizing that these beings are really are right alongside of us.
[58:00] Speaker 2: And so she took me to Mount Tabor and I
[58:05] Speaker 2: got to see some of the structures. Unfortunately, the Park
[58:10] Speaker 2: Service had kind of destroyed a lot of them, which
[58:12] Speaker 2: was really kind of a bummer, but we found some
[58:16] Speaker 2: other smaller structures which were really amazing. And just being
[58:21] Speaker 2: able to meet these amazing people has been so like
[58:28] Speaker 2: life changing for me. It really has. I've met some
[58:31] Speaker 2: of the most amazing people I've ever met through this experience,
[58:35] Speaker 2: so it was really it was wonderful to be able
[58:38] Speaker 2: to meet her in person. And during that trip we
[58:45] Speaker 2: walked around the park, she showed me around everything, we
[58:47] Speaker 2: had a really great conversation, and then I left and
[58:50] Speaker 2: she took another lap around the park and on these
[58:54] Speaker 2: steps that we had been walking on maybe twenty thirty
[58:58] Speaker 2: minutes beforehand, she finds placed in the middle of these
[59:03] Speaker 2: steps a hand woven basket that was made of fresh
[59:10] Speaker 2: branches and it had a blue ribbon or a piece
[59:16] Speaker 2: of yarn, that's what it was. It was a piece
[59:18] Speaker 2: of yarn at the bottom, which was very symbolic for her.
[59:21] Speaker 2: And so that was a really wonderful experience. So, yeah,
[59:27] Speaker 2: that was Portland that changed my life in many ways,
[59:31] Speaker 2: and I can't wait to get back. So after I
[59:36] Speaker 2: got home from Oregon, all I could think about was
[59:40] Speaker 2: going camping again. And so it was my birthday on
[59:45] Speaker 2: November twelve. So another place that I had been getting
[59:51] Speaker 2: the elbow and the ridge to go to go visit
[59:55] Speaker 2: is the ta Quamigon Nickelt Forest Wasisconsin, which is in
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: northern Wisconsin. I had never even heard of it, but
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: it was another place on the map that Kwane had
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: pointed out, and ever since then I was just kind of,
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: you know, I've been guided to go there. And so
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: I decided to rent a cabin for a couple of
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: days for my birthday, and so again packed up the family.
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: Didn't really have too many expectations. I just I found
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: a place on what is it Vrbo and it was
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: a cute little cabin with like a little river running
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: in the backyard through it, and I just thought it
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: was going to be a relaxing couple of days. I
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: didn't expect anything to happen. But we'd get there and
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: we unpack everything and you know, get the dogs that'll
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: feed the dog's dinner. We go and go into town
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: and get some dinner, and we come back and we're
[1:00:56] Speaker 2: watching a movie. And the way that this tabin is
[1:01:01] Speaker 2: shaped is it just a large rectangle basically like a
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: big communal room with a little living room and a
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: kitchen put together, and then one bedroom upstairs. And so
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: we're watching TV. We're watching this movie, and there's a
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: sliding glass patio door that leads out onto this little
[1:01:24] Speaker 2: patio and then the backyard, and there were blinds, but
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: for some reason, I kept the blinds up so I
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: could look out the window. And I mean, I know
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: why now, but at the time, it was just like, no,
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: let's just leave them up. It's not a big deal.
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: I don't want to fool around with him. So we're
[1:01:44] Speaker 2: watching this movie and then again, all of a sudden,
[1:01:48] Speaker 2: I start getting my hands start vibrating, my feet start vibrating,
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: the top of my head starts, my chest is really buzzing.
[1:01:57] Speaker 2: And my dogs were lay on the couch next to
[1:02:01] Speaker 2: me under blankets, and all of a sudden their heads
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: pop up and they're like they're on high alert. They're like,
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: what's going on? What is this? And I told them
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: I was like, it's okay, it's just our friends. Don't
[1:02:13] Speaker 2: worry about it. And so they laid their heads back down.
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: We're watching this movie, and I was just kind of
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: waiting for something to happen, and so I have this
[1:02:27] Speaker 2: side view of not even It's like, it's right next
[1:02:30] Speaker 2: to me, this patio door. It's probably about fifteen feet
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: away from me, and I just happened to glance at it,
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: and I see this. You know, it's all black, it's
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: totally blackness outside, but I see this shape that comes
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: up about five feet away from the patio door, the
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: window from the outside that it didn't walk. It glides.
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: It glides past the door, and it's red and brown
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: and shaggy long fur, and I can't even explain it.
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: It's like what it felt like to me was something
[1:03:13] Speaker 2: that kind of materialized in front of me. That's what
[1:03:17] Speaker 2: it looked like. It looked like it like materialized from
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: a different vibration or dimension in order for me to
[1:03:25] Speaker 2: see it. And it glides past me, and then it
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: just kind of dissipates, and my whole body went cold,
[1:03:36] Speaker 2: like all it felt like all the blood drained from
[1:03:40] Speaker 2: my body. And I really felt like probably like how
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: people feel when they see a ghost. It was just
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: I was in shock and my wife was in the
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: chair even closer to that door, but she was like
[1:03:54] Speaker 2: she was kind of laying down sideways on the lazy boy.
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: She didn't see anything. And she's not very I mean,
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: she is sensitive the energy, but not not anywhere as
[1:04:08] Speaker 2: sensitive as I am, So she didn't see anything because
[1:04:11] Speaker 2: she was kind of dozing off, and I didn't I
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: didn't even say anything to her because I didn't want
[1:04:17] Speaker 2: to scare her. So I just kind of sack with
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: that until the movie was over, just totally in shock.
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: And then the movie ends and it's time, you know,
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: it's time to get ready for bed. So I had
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: to let the dogs outside, and they went directly to
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: that spot where I saw the being glide past the window,
[1:04:43] Speaker 2: and they were smelling it, and all of their hackles
[1:04:46] Speaker 2: are up and they're just like looking to the edge
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: of the property and kind of growling, and I just
[1:04:54] Speaker 2: felt I kept telling them, I'm like, it's okay, guys,
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: don't worry about it. It's not a big deal that
[1:05:00] Speaker 2: came in. But my one guy in particular, his name's Casey,
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: he's very sensitive, and he was just barking and baking
[1:05:09] Speaker 2: and just very very agitated, and so we went upstairs.
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: There was one bedroom, and that bedroom had a sliding
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: glass patio door too, and it led out onto this
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: tiny little balcony and there was a like a curtain
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: that was covering the window. So I wanted to skygaze
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: for a little bit. It was so cold outside, and
[1:05:33] Speaker 2: you know, everything was so weird. I didn't really feel
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: like spending too much time outside, but I wanted to
[1:05:37] Speaker 2: see the stars. So I opened this curtain up, and
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: you can see out into the backyard and like see
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: the little river and stuff, and there's some brush at
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: the edge of the property and where the dogs were growling.
[1:05:51] Speaker 2: I saw two pairs of glowing eyes, and at first
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: I thought maybe they were like some sort of yard
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: lamps or lights or something for the neighbor's house, because
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: there were neighbors not too far away. But the more
[1:06:07] Speaker 2: I kept looking at these two pairs of light, they
[1:06:11] Speaker 2: kept kind of like swaying back and forth from side
[1:06:14] Speaker 2: to side, and you know, moving up and moving down
[1:06:17] Speaker 2: a little bit, so they were definitely moving. I didn't
[1:06:24] Speaker 2: have any fear, though, I kind of feel like most
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: of the fear got sucked out of my head and Oregon,
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: So what I did was I opened up my heart
[1:06:35] Speaker 2: chakra and sent some love to them. And I forgot
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: to mention this, but in the beginning, when we first
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: got there, I took an apple and I cut it
[1:06:46] Speaker 2: into quarters and I laid it on the ground by
[1:06:50] Speaker 2: the river, and I just introduced myself. I said, Hi,
[1:06:53] Speaker 2: my name's Tina, and thank you to the spirit of
[1:06:57] Speaker 2: the forest for letting me stay here and for having
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: such beautiful energy, and thank you so much for having us.
[1:07:04] Speaker 2: And as I said that, I saw a little orbs
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: shoot in the sky above me, and I was like, okay,
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: they're listening. So as I'm looking into the backyard. Later,
[1:07:15] Speaker 2: when I was getting ready for bed, see these two
[1:07:17] Speaker 2: pairs of eyes, and I just like I said, I
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: just opened up my heart and just sent this love
[1:07:23] Speaker 2: frequency out to them and thanked them for inviting me
[1:07:27] Speaker 2: to these woods. Then come and play with them. And
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: I felt it get matched like they sent it to
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: me and I was sending it to them, and it
[1:07:37] Speaker 2: was so beautiful. It felt amazing. And then after a
[1:07:42] Speaker 2: while I said thank you, and I you know, I
[1:07:44] Speaker 2: closed the curtain and I laid down to go to
[1:07:47] Speaker 2: bed and all and I felt my the land clearing
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: energy start up in my body, and I was like, oh, okay,
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: this is what I'm here to do. And it kind
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: of just kind of just went on automatic, and I
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: just felt myself clearing this land and I felt them
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: come in and help me, and I fell asleep like that,
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: and I had a dream that night that I was
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: looking into the woods and I saw this light come
[1:08:19] Speaker 2: towards me, and the light was getting brighter and brighter,
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I started hearing this
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: and I woke up to that sound, to this like howl,
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: this intense, howy sound. It wasn't in like I wasn't
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: actually hearing it. It was in the dream. I woke
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: up and it was silent in the cabin, but it
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: was just like, wow, that was so strange. What was
[1:08:49] Speaker 2: that about? And then the next day the whole family
[1:08:54] Speaker 2: were going out. We're walking in the woods and we're
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: having fun and spent the day just exploring. It was
[1:09:00] Speaker 2: really it was really nice. And so we get back
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: to the aven at night and we have our dinner
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: and there's a little fire pit in the backyard and
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: we decide to have a fire, and my wife and
[1:09:11] Speaker 2: I are just sitting out there the dogs are in
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: the house, because you know, it was I didn't watch
[1:09:16] Speaker 2: them running around and back there. And so we're like,
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: we're just having a nice fire, having a peaceful time
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: and just having a really great conversation and we start
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: hearing this ooh. And it lasted a good i would say,
[1:09:37] Speaker 2: minute and a half, and it was so echoey, and
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: it just sounded so just unearthly and just but it
[1:09:46] Speaker 2: was beautiful at the same time, like it was just
[1:09:49] Speaker 2: I don't know that I wish I could describe it better.
[1:09:53] Speaker 2: My wife was like, what was that? Because of what
[1:09:56] Speaker 2: it didn't sound anything like a wolf or a coyote.
[1:10:00] Speaker 2: Is like, you know, we we live in a place
[1:10:03] Speaker 2: where we hear that stuff pretty frequently. It was completely different,
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: and so she asked me, and I was like, well,
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: I could tell you, but you probably wouldn't believe me.
[1:10:13] Speaker 2: And we just kept listening to it for about ten
[1:10:16] Speaker 2: minutes and it just sounded like one individual. It sounded
[1:10:21] Speaker 2: just like, over and over again, this this like it
[1:10:24] Speaker 2: almost sounded like stinging. It was so beautiful and like haunting.
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: It was just it was I'm so thankful, I'm so thankful.
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: That day they interacted with us in that way, and
[1:10:38] Speaker 3: then yeah, we just went to bed and then came
[1:10:42] Speaker 3: home in the morning and that was that was Wisconsin.
[1:10:48] Speaker 2: So it was it was just I can't wait to
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: get back there. I really can't. So then let's see.
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: Ever since I've gotten back, and I feel like the
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: experiences have kind of ramped up a bit. I'm just
[1:11:06] Speaker 2: seeing I'm seeing the family actually show up in the woods,
[1:11:11] Speaker 2: like at the tree line. For me now when I go,
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: I'm seeing three orbs that are of different heights and
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: they're standing in the trees, and I've been getting different
[1:11:25] Speaker 2: telepathic messages from them, and I do feel like part
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: of that is because I think they're really proud of
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: me for getting out of my comfort zone and going
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: across the country and helping to you know, clear some
[1:11:39] Speaker 2: land and stuff. But also I'm having some kind of intense,
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: heavy family issues happening right now, Like my mom is
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: in auspice and she's kind of in the middle of transitioning,
[1:11:54] Speaker 2: and so it's been a really intense time and I
[1:11:58] Speaker 2: feel like they are really they know, they absolutely know
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: what's going on with me. And so the other night
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: when I went out there, they showed up and it
[1:12:08] Speaker 2: was three great orbs and I could kind of see
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: the spinning a little bit, you know, a little lobbily,
[1:12:15] Speaker 2: but they were. They stayed there for a good ten minutes.
[1:12:19] Speaker 2: It was crazy, and I kept saying, I was like,
[1:12:23] Speaker 2: is that is that you? I think I'm seeing you.
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: And I just got this message of the condolences. It
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: almost felt like an energy packet. It was. It felt
[1:12:36] Speaker 2: like emotions and it felt like words too. It was like,
[1:12:40] Speaker 2: we're sorry for what you're experiencing right now. And that
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: was that was really nice. They really do feel like
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: family to me at this point, and I've heard other
[1:12:53] Speaker 2: people say that too. It's this this like beautiful family energy.
[1:13:03] Speaker 2: And it's because it's because I honestly believe they are
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: they are related to us. I believe that they are
[1:13:10] Speaker 2: a form of human. But yeah, they were very It
[1:13:16] Speaker 2: was like condolences and thank you for everything that you've
[1:13:19] Speaker 2: done and we love you. And it was really nice
[1:13:23] Speaker 2: and so but it was super cold out, so I
[1:13:26] Speaker 2: couldn't be there for too long. And after we had
[1:13:29] Speaker 2: our exchange, I said thank you and I love you
[1:13:32] Speaker 2: and thanks to the forest and everything, and I get
[1:13:36] Speaker 2: into my car and we had just gotten into a
[1:13:39] Speaker 2: car a couple of months ago that I had never
[1:13:42] Speaker 2: had a dash like a dashboard camera, which is really nice.
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: It's pretty convenient when you're trying to parallel park.
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: But I was.
[1:13:51] Speaker 2: I turned the car on and I'm trying to get
[1:13:53] Speaker 2: out of this parking lot. But it's really there's a
[1:13:56] Speaker 2: lot of snow, so I had to be careful and
[1:13:57] Speaker 2: like back up before I drive out of the parking lot.
[1:14:01] Speaker 2: And I had the car facing the parking lot, but
[1:14:06] Speaker 2: it was directly in front of the tree line where
[1:14:11] Speaker 2: my forest friends were. And I look at the camera,
[1:14:15] Speaker 2: which is face you know, it's facing the tree line,
[1:14:18] Speaker 2: and I see three red orbs in the tree line,
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: the same orbs that I was seeing with my eyes,
[1:14:24] Speaker 2: but they're red in the camera and I had never
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: seen that before. I don't even have I don't, like
[1:14:35] Speaker 2: I said, I don't really take videos or have a
[1:14:39] Speaker 2: night like an infrared camera or nighttime camera or anything
[1:14:43] Speaker 2: that I use. But I thought that was so cool
[1:14:47] Speaker 2: because I was asking them, I'm like, is that really you, guys?
[1:14:50] Speaker 2: Is that you? And then they stayed there to show
[1:14:53] Speaker 2: me that it was them, So yeah, that's and that
[1:14:59] Speaker 2: was just a couple of nights ago. So I think
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: I'm pretty pretty caught up as to my most memorable
[1:15:09] Speaker 2: experiences anyway.
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: Well, you've had your fear share of memorable ones. There's
[1:15:14] Speaker 1: no denying that as fact, is there.
[1:15:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a lot, especially since it's only been
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: happening the past couple of years.
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a wild ride. It really makes you
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: wonder what's next for you, because if this is just
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: getting started, holy cow.
[1:15:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I really feel like that's part
[1:15:39] Speaker 2: of my goal plan really is to work with them
[1:15:43] Speaker 2: to help kind of clear the energetic grids of the
[1:15:49] Speaker 2: planet and who knows what else, but I know that
[1:15:53] Speaker 2: I'm here. Part of my I guess job here is
[1:15:59] Speaker 2: to help trans mute energy and stuff. So so yeah,
[1:16:03] Speaker 2: it's it's been pretty wild and I can't wait to
[1:16:06] Speaker 2: see what's going to happen next.
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: You live an exciting life, you really do.
[1:16:13] Speaker 2: It's so funny because I feel like it's like pretty home.
[1:16:17] Speaker 2: And like I said with the podcast, I had no
[1:16:23] Speaker 2: idea what I was going to do with it. At first.
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: All I knew was that I was supposed to get
[1:16:26] Speaker 2: out there and start working with you know, public speaking
[1:16:31] Speaker 2: and getting comfortable with that sort of thing. So I
[1:16:34] Speaker 2: didn't really have a lot of confidence in myself at
[1:16:38] Speaker 2: that time, and so my what just my initial reflex
[1:16:45] Speaker 2: was was to just like invite friends on and have conversations,
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: invite people, you know, and so I would try having
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: all these different types of people on, and it never
[1:16:54] Speaker 2: really worked. It felt really hard, and it just felt
[1:16:58] Speaker 2: like kind of a slow until I had this realization
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: one day that like, you're you have all of this
[1:17:06] Speaker 2: amazing stuff happening in front of you right now, and
[1:17:10] Speaker 2: you need to talk about this, Like this is what
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: you need to talk about. And so I started reaching
[1:17:16] Speaker 2: out to more of the f squatch people community and
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: that's when things started happening. That's when things started getting easier.
[1:17:25] Speaker 1: You know, well, you deserve any good fortune that comes
[1:17:29] Speaker 1: your way. I'm just glad it's been snowballing and this
[1:17:32] Speaker 1: whole process of producing your podcast is getting easier. And
[1:17:36] Speaker 1: speaking of that, we're about out of time, but before
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: we do leave here, please promote your podcast one last time.
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you. Yeah. So it's called ether Flows Podcast
[1:17:49] Speaker 2: and right now it's just on YouTube. I'm thinking about
[1:17:54] Speaker 2: branching out into Spotify and all the you know, Apple
[1:17:58] Speaker 2: music and all the other news, but for right now,
[1:18:01] Speaker 2: it's just on YouTube, and I do like to focus
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: at least right now on people's relationships with the Sasquatch
[1:18:12] Speaker 2: and with other interdimensionals and how it's changed their lives
[1:18:17] Speaker 2: and their view of reality. So if anybody has some
[1:18:21] Speaker 2: great stories or if they would like to have a
[1:18:23] Speaker 2: conversation with me, feel free to reach out at I
[1:18:26] Speaker 2: think I have my email on the YouTube page if
[1:18:31] Speaker 2: you'd like to listen to some great conversations. I have
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: amazing people on the show. I'm so grateful that I've
[1:18:38] Speaker 2: had people who come and chat with me that I've had,
[1:18:42] Speaker 2: So if you'd like to listen, I thank you.
[1:18:46] Speaker 1: You've got a great personality for producing that podcast and
[1:18:49] Speaker 1: for hosting it. So yeah, I can only imagine how
[1:18:52] Speaker 1: good it is. All You're welcome, and for anyone listening.
[1:18:55] Speaker 1: So that you know, I'm going to post a link
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: to our YouTube channel in the description for night show.
[1:19:00] Speaker 1: That'll make it really easy to find.
[1:19:03] Speaker 2: Thank you. I really appreciate that you should come on
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: the show too. Well.
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: If you want me, I'll be there. Just say the word.
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: Awesome. We'll set it up.
[1:19:13] Speaker 1: Sounds like a plan, all right, Gina, thanks again so
[1:19:17] Speaker 1: much for your time for coming on to share those
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
[1:19:22] Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's really good practice for me to talk about
[1:19:26] Speaker 2: this stuff because it's not easy, you know, especially when
[1:19:30] Speaker 2: you have kind of really out there experiences, it can
[1:19:34] Speaker 2: be a little daunting sometimes. So thank you for giving
[1:19:37] Speaker 2: me that opportunity to speak about this.
[1:19:42] Speaker 1: Oh glad to do it. Anytime I can help, I'll
[1:19:45] Speaker 1: be there for you. But having you said that, thanks
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: against so much of your time and have a great night.
[1:19:58] Speaker 4: That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
[1:20:02] Speaker 4: Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
[1:20:05] Speaker 4: like to be a guest on the show, please go
[1:20:07] Speaker 4: to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
[1:20:11] Speaker 4: love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a
[1:20:15] Speaker 4: great night.

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