# A Dermatologist’s Guide to Simple, Effective Skincare | Dr. Mamina Turegano (Bonus Episode)

An episode of [Minimalist Moms Podcast | Purposeful Life & Parenting Tips](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1159498258), 7 May 2026, 34 min.

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In this episode, Diane sits down with Dr. Mamina Turegano, a triple board-certified dermatologist, internist, and dermatopathologist, to talk about simplifying skincare and focusing on what actually works. Dr. Mamina shares why a minimal approach is often best, and how lifestyle factors like diet, stress, and hormones can influence skin health. We discuss common concerns like adult acne, postpartum skin changes, and eczema, along with practical ways to support the skin barrier through gentle routines and consistent care. She also offers straightforward guidance for parents, including how to treat diaper rash, when to start sunscreen, and what products are worth keeping on hand. This conversation is a helpful reset if you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by skincare advice and just want a simple, effective approach. Links Discussed in This Episode | • Checkout the podcast storefront for recommendations from Diane. • Subscribe to the Minimalist Moms Youtube Channel • Active Skin Repair • Connect with Dr. Mamina Turegano: • Website • Instagram • TikTok • Dr. Mamina’s Favorite Products: https://shopmyshelf.us/shops/dr.mamina About Dr. Mamina Turegano| Mamina Turegano, MD, is a triple board-certified dermatologist, internist, and dermatopathologist based in New Orleans. She specializes in medical, cosmetic, and integrative dermatology, blending conventional and holistic approaches to skin health. With over 2 million followers across social media, she shares dermatologist-backed skincare and wellness insights with a broad audience. She also co-hosts a podcast, called Skin Deep MDs, has been published in leading medical journals, and frequently contributes her expertise to major press outlets, TV, and beauty publications. Episode Sponsors | The Minimalist Moms Podcast would not be possible without the support of weekly sponsors. Choosing brands that I believe in is important to me. I only want to recommend brands that I believe may help you in your daily life. As always, never feel pressured into buying anything. Remember: if you don't need it, it's not a good deal! Enjoy the Podcast? Post a review and share it! If you enjoyed tuning into this podcast, then do not hesitate to write a review. You can also share this with your fellow mothers so that they can be inspired to think more and do with less. Order (or review) my book, Minimalist Moms: Living & Parenting With Simplicity. You can contact me through my website, find me on Instagram, Pinterest or like The Minimalist Moms Page on Facebook. Our Sponsors: * Check out BetterHelp and use my code betterhelp.com for a great deal: https://www.betterhelp.com * Check out Cure Hydration and use my code MINIMALIST for a great deal: https://www.curehydration.com * Check out DeleteMe and use my code joindeleteme.com/MINIMALIST for a great deal: https://joindeleteme.com * Check out Wayfair: https://www.wayfair.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

## Transcript

[0:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: For those of you that are new around here, I released bonus episodes that serve a niche part of my audience, so if this content is something that doesn't fit what you're looking for, check out the other episodes that drop this week, or join me back here next week for episodes that you don't want to miss.
[0:14] \[SPEAKER_02\]: In 2022, there was like all this kind of fear around skin cancer that came up because there was this lab testing facility, the company is called balish or they tested all these sunscreens and found trace amounts of benzene and all these sunscreens and that like freaked people out because benzene is known to be a car surgeon.
[0:33] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so it gave sunscreen such a bad name, but benzene is not an actual sunscreen ingredient.
[0:39] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It was just a contaminant that was found on these sunscreens, and you could actually find higher amounts of benzene, like if you go to a gas station, or if you're around certain chemicals, like teens and whatnot.
[0:51] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I think that that really put a bad taste in people's mouth regarding sunscreen, too.
[0:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is Diane Bowdoin, and you're listening to the minimalist mom's podcast.
[0:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: In today's episode, I sit down with Dr. Mamina Tregano, a triple board certified dermatologist, internist, and dermatopathologist, to talk about simplifying skincare and focusing on what actually works.
[1:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Dr. Ramina shares why a minimal approach is often best and how lifestyle factors like diet, stress and hormones can influence skin health.
[1:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We also disguise common concerns like adult acne, postpartum skin changes and eggsma for children and adults.
[1:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Along with practical ways to support the skin barrier through gentle routines and consistent care.
[1:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She also offers straightforward guidance for parents, including how to treat diaper rash, when to start sunscreen, and what products are worth keeping on hand.
[1:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This conversation is a helpful reset if you've ever felt overwhelmed by skincare advice and just want a simple effective approach.
[1:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you enjoyed today's content, make sure you hit five stars after listening and share the episode with a friend that could benefit.
[1:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: As always, I so appreciate you being here and tuning in, tweak, it means so much to me and I really do thank you.
[1:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And with that, let's get to the episode with Dr. Mamina Trenko.
[2:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, like I said, I'm so glad that you're here today to talk all things skin care dermatology.
[2:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Some questions I personally have and some questions that I know that you share with your audience.
[2:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Instagram, you have over 500,000 followers following along there with your content.
[2:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I just appreciate you sharing it with my audience today.
[2:19] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I'm so glad to be here.
[2:20] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Thank you so much for having me.
[2:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, well, before we get into it, tell me a little bit more about your background and how you got into this line of work.
[2:28] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yes, so I am a board certified dermatologist.
[2:31] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I also am board certified in internal medicine, as well as a subspecialty of dermatology, called dermatopathology, but I mainly practice general dermatology, both medical and cosmetic.
[2:41] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I treat all ages starting from newborns to 100 plus year old patients.
[2:47] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And I've been in private practice for about 12 years now, the treating patients for 16 years.
[2:53] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And like I said, I practice dental dermatology, but I really am interested in taking a more holistic or integrated approach with patients.
[3:00] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So of course, you know, going through all the basic things, but sometimes patients might have side effects to medicines and want to know, okay, there'd be certain supplements that they could do instead.
[3:10] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And also just diving deep into like lifestyle factors, whether it's nutrition, stress, sleep, all the things that could play a role in inflammation, which, of course, manifests as potentially skin issues too.
[3:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, absolutely.
[3:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think when it comes to really with anything, I try to simplify it down to the basics, but specifically with skincare, I feel like when I do too much, especially I'm fair and my skin reacts to everything, just you can really strip it of what it needs.
[3:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So less is better typically for me, but would you say as a general statement, is that typically true people?
[3:44] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, actually, that is typically true.
[3:47] \[SPEAKER_02\]: More is not better when when it comes to skincare, you want to keep it minimal actually.
[3:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, no, that's I figured that a lot of people listening to this episode probably feel similarly.
[3:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And like you said, your approach to dermatology does differ and that you pursue this holistic approach to it.
[4:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You said food and sleep, I guess here from the get go, what are some foods that we could be eating to improve our skin?
[4:13] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, there's a couple of themes.
[4:16] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So sugar, more so processed sugar, not necessarily fruit from sugar from fruit.
[4:22] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But things that can really like spike your glucose levels and affect glucose metabolism and increase our insulin.
[4:31] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And potentially insulin resistance, but sugar can play a role with increasing inflammation, but also,
[4:37] \[SPEAKER_02\]: when it comes to aging, like speeding up the aging process, like causing your collagen to essentially, because sugar can bite to certain proteins in your collagen, it can make your collagen more rigid and can break down more quickly.
[4:49] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So that is one food group and then another food group that we took to see a lot of issues with is dairy.
[4:56] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Interestingly, more so, if you're dealing with acne, sometimes exima, sometimes psoriasis, and then certain other planetary skin issues.
[5:05] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But yes, we do, we do see some issues with dairy, and then alcohol as well.
[5:10] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Alcohol, we do see, can accelerate signs of aging.
[5:14] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I mean, we go the alcohol.
[5:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I knew you were going to do that.
[5:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, I knew I knew I'm coming.
[5:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's the sad one.
[5:21] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I know.
[5:22] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It's basically saying like all the fun things.
[5:25] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But yeah, and then we're seeing we're data too with just like just the whole group of ultra-process foods, things that are made with like more processed, processed vegetable oils, whether it's like fried foods or like certain meats, whether it's like jelly meats, just more processed foods, yeah.
[5:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, but I guess if you're doing things right in other areas, I mean, you try to take a balance approach when it comes.
[5:48] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Exactly.
[5:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The skin.
[5:51] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yes, yeah, I think that everything, it's important to do everything in moderation.
[5:56] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Like, if you're going to be super restrictive with your diet, that can be stressful.
[6:00] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And we know that stress also plays a role with increasing inflammation and causing skin issues.
[6:04] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So yeah, I mean, everything's a balance and also everyone's different.
[6:07] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Some people can eat all the dairy in the world and have.
[6:11] \[SPEAKER_02\]: the most amazing skin and be super healthy so it can be person-dependent.
[6:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, absolutely.
[6:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I know a lot of our episode, we are going to focus on children.
[6:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Obviously, this is a motherhood podcast.
[6:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just wanted to ask a few of these questions here from the get go.
[6:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because I know a friend of mine, she was noticing how her skin has changed.
[6:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I would say her skin used to be very clear.
[6:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then after having a second child, all these hormonal shifts happen.
[6:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's starting to have this cystic breakouts.
[6:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I told her, I'm like, I think you just have to not lean in.
[6:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Kind of settle down.
[6:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It'll be back to normal, but I guess I'll let you speak to that knowing postpartum how it can handle how your skin can become.
[6:53] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Oh yeah, well yeah adult female acne is a whole topic and there are a lot of times a reason for it, but for sure like postpartum, oh and it's interesting that you said after a second child and not after a first child because I I really hear that it's happens to be after the second child but with any postpart of period there is a huge hormonal shift.
[7:12] \[SPEAKER_02\]: When you're pregnant there's a big hormonal shift, when you're postpartum there's a big
[7:18] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And that has a downstream effect on so many other things in your body, whether it's the way that you react to things, it's or like affecting your gut microbiome, when your gut microbiome is different, that can just change through bodies way of dealing with various inflammatory issues, so a lot of it is related to hormones for sure.
[7:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I guess I was just speaking for myself to her because I felt like after my third.
[7:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, it took about two or three years for my skin to get back to normal, for my hair, to like all the baby hairs to go away for my weight, to kind of get back to home me a stasis of what it kind of what it is this season.
[7:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, if you can just know that people are looking at your face as a whole too, I know that we like to focus and hone and on these little quote unquote imperfections, no one is concerned as you are.
[8:08] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Exactly.
[8:09] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I know where our worst critics, but yes, it's reassuring to know that it's it's usually a season.
[8:15] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I have seen things last for a while, but because sometimes it can unmask some type of underlying issue or predisposition, but I think, yeah, there is always a way to like kind of re-equilibrate and get back to your normal self.
[8:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, absolutely.
[8:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want to talk about Exima and how we can manage that and get it under control.
[8:40] \[SPEAKER_02\]: You know, Xema is tough.
[8:42] \[SPEAKER_02\]: There is a combination of genetic predisposition like there's actual literal genes that people inherit that are responsible for not making all the proteins or adequate lipid structure in our skin, which can make you more predisposed to Xema.
[8:58] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And then of course, there's a lot of triggers, whether it's internal triggers, extra tests,
[9:03] \[SPEAKER_02\]: or external factors, there's a lot of allergens and food that can potentially trigger eggsome up.
[9:12] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So basically, one of the biggest issues though, like I said, there's a genetic predisposition, there's a skin barrier issue.
[9:20] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And some people almost like to call eggsome like leaky skin, kind of like leaky gut, it's like leaky skin because your skin barrier is not
[9:28] \[SPEAKER_02\]: fully intact.
[9:30] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It's a little bit leaky.
[9:31] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so it's really important that you're making sure that you're doing everything that you can to take care of your skin barrier.
[9:37] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So to avoid harsh products, so products that can contain things like alcohol, things that can be like stripping to the skin, like harsh acids, and then minimizing certain allergens that can be irritating
[9:58] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And doing what you can to keeping your skin barrier happy with like barrier repairing moisturizers, you know, using a humidifier when it comes to taking a shower, like it's so annoying because I love hot showers, but you don't even want to minimize hot showers, hot temperatures, and using like look or mother and like water and moisturizing, you know, immediately after bathing when your skin is damp, that's the best time to moisturize.
[10:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: uh yeah.
[10:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What about the sun and chlorine?
[10:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know for my kind of transitioning into children if we're treating these things in a way for adults as we wouldn't children, but I know for my and my niece usually summertime at the pool and in the sunshine hers will typically especially if she's like shiring right after all the chlorine.
[10:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But it probably dries it out and she doesn't struggle with it as much.
[10:50] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, it's interesting.
[10:51] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It brings up a couple of different topics.
[10:54] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So the Sun can potentially be helpful for Exima.
[10:58] \[SPEAKER_02\]: We don't tell people to go bait out in the Sun.
[11:00] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But there's a few reasons.
[11:02] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So one is, of course, it can help with vitamin D absorption and metabolism.
[11:08] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And vitamin D, having adequate vitamin D levels, is going to be helpful for Exima.
[11:13] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And the other thing with the Sun is that there
[11:20] \[SPEAKER_02\]: like specifically kind of one wavelength narrow band UVB spectrum that targets a certain level of your skin that helps kind of modulate the immune system in your skin essentially can be anti-inflammatory.
[11:33] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So one of the treatments that we would do for some patients with moderate to severe eggs is narrow band UVB light therapy, where essentially they're standing in a light
[11:43] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And that helps modulate the immune system in a specific layer of skin that that we like targets.
[11:49] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So the sun includes that we've like we don't tell people to go back out in the sun because we don't want you to get sunburns.
[11:54] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But having some of that sun is probably helping that inflammatory aspect in the skin, which is interesting.
[12:00] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And then you also mentioned chlorine too.
[12:02] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So it can go either way, interestingly,
[12:06] \[SPEAKER_02\]: chlorine, like the like bleach, like thorox that is used to like clean your house and can be really scary-seeming.
[12:15] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so actually one of the recommendations for treating exima is bleach baths where you, you know, put- and it sounds so scary, right?
[12:24] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Like putting some-
[12:25] \[SPEAKER_02\]: like bleach into a bath, how that's usually about like a quarter of a cup of water and a cup of bleach into a full-top of water.
[12:31] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But it has antimicrobial effects, because we know that the microbiome is also just different on people with eggs in mind and staff bacteria loved to thrive or it's easier for staff bacteria to thrive when there's this less diverse ecosystem or microbiome on the skin.
[12:46] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so chlorine bleach, that can help it.
[12:51] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So in some cases, like maybe being in the swimming pool can be helpful too, but it's interesting because I've also seen the opposite when it comes to pools.
[13:00] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I've seen some people skip and react to the chlorine in pools.
[13:05] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So I don't know if there's something different with maybe the ratio that's used there versus using a tub, but it can be helpful.
[13:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, and they're fine for people because I struggle with dry skin, but it just seems to be different than just dry skin that you might occasionally get in the winter here in Ohio.
[13:23] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yes, actually, so let me backtrack a little bit because I was because I mentioned with eggs and my people have like this genetic predisposition where you do have genes where you're not creating
[13:41] \[SPEAKER_02\]: something called atopic dermatitis, which is referring to like, yeah, exima that we see, we see it in kids like on the inner elbows inside their elbows behind their knees on their cheeks.
[13:53] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And yeah, seeing what the adults, but I guess the word exima can not only refer to atopic dermatitis, and atopic dermatitis, those refer to is also common to coexist with like allergies and asthma.
[14:10] \[SPEAKER_02\]: refers to like in sort of inflammatory dry skin issues.
[14:15] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So it's essentially like getting kind of a rash and the setting of like dry skin or reacting to something that's in contact with your skin, like a contact dermatitis.
[14:24] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So you know, with your husband developing exima on his cheeks after COVID, that could be more of like a reactive sort of exima
[14:35] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And I guess in a way, it's autoimmune where it's like viral.
[14:39] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Your body's creating like this inflammation against this virus, and it's showing up as this exabetist type of rash on the skin.
[14:47] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Sorry, it's got with a little bit of kind of a roundabout explanation.
[14:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sorry for listening, so I'm just popping.
[14:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's so much to be said about skin.
[14:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I love skin care.
[14:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[14:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's one of the few places I will invest my money in because, you know, I was like, we're all aging, but I want to do it gracefully.
[15:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so it's just... Yeah.
[15:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: interested in, I'd also to, I take a holistic approach, I try to take supplements, water, which maybe that sounds nice.
[15:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, but I think, again, for my whole body, it's like, you see it on your face, you see what you're doing.
[15:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When I have drank.
[15:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Exactly.
[15:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The night before you can tell the next day on my face.
[15:28] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Things do show up on the skin for sure.
[15:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, but again, with listeners, I kind of am popping around from topic to top because there's so much to be said here.
[15:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, I'll ask you for a deeper dives, but I want to talk about now transitioning kind of into babies for the listeners.
[15:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Children, diaper rash and what we can do may be in a more organic crunchy approach to managing diaper rash.
[15:52] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, so one of the biggest drivers of a diaper rash is moisture in the diaper that's trapped in there and sometimes it's just inevitable and.
[16:06] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Basically, you want to do everything you can to not only minimize the moisture, but also protect the skin, so that it's not breaking down from that moisture and sometimes some of the chemicals in the urine and the poop can break down the kind of fact the skin barrier more.
[16:21] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So it's like protecting the skin barrier and also minimizing the moisturization.
[16:26] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so if you want to talk about more crunchy approach, one of my favorite little hacks for kind of keeping moisture to a minimum is cornstarch powder.
[16:39] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Okay.
[16:41] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And like, you know, just getting organic non-GMO cornstarch and it really does work wonders, just as like a preventative.
[16:49] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It really absorbs moisture super well.
[16:52] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And then when it comes to protecting the skin, if there, if there, it happens to be a lot of moisture still using a zinc oxide-based paste as a way to protect the skin barrier is, is my favorite way, essentially.
[17:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I mean, I know my parents put destiny on me.
[17:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I used it on my children as well.
[17:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think aqua four was also I heard a good go to.
[17:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not opposed to using chemicals when need be, especially when you have a crying baby.
[17:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is in a lot of pain.
[17:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah, I know that people do look for more natural ways to do things these days.
[17:28] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, yeah, I think that and then I think that they work better as like preventative things if something gets like pretty far advanced then yeah, I mean I'm a huge fan of like the triple triple pace as a way to really shut down the diaper when it's when it's really bad.
[17:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, I want to talk about sunscreen now.
[17:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's a lot of mixed opinions on this too.
[17:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have gone all across the board, but I would love to know your opinions on sunscreen for kids and adults.
[18:00] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah.
[18:02] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So in general, if you ask any dermatologist, we recommend all sunscreen with people say, what's your favorite sunscreen?
[18:08] \[SPEAKER_02\]: We say the one that you're willing to wear regularly.
[18:11] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But I do think that the advice is a little bit different for kids.
[18:16] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And we can go more into all the the controversies with sunscreens when it comes to like chemical versus mineral.
[18:22] \[SPEAKER_02\]: especially when it applies for adults, but with kids, most of the sunscreens that I meet for kids are mineral-based and I think that's great.
[18:32] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I think when using sunscreen, it's typically recommended although now there's like mixed opinions to and when to start using sunscreen, typically it's around six months of age and older, but some germs are saying that you could even use it before then.
[18:46] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I usually say just use like some protective clothing prior to six months, but I do think that
[18:52] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, it starting at six months, it's helpful to wear a mineral based sunscreen and the reason why they say mineral based in kids is because kids skin Baby skin kids skin absorbs
[19:04] \[SPEAKER_02\]: products that you put on it more.
[19:06] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So like the kids skin to just more absorbing than adult skin.
[19:11] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And we know that chemical sunscreens can get more readily absorbed into your bloodstream.
[19:17] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Now whether or not it's going to do anything bad.
[19:19] \[SPEAKER_02\]: That is actually still up for debate.
[19:21] \[SPEAKER_02\]: We know that in high amounts, especially
[19:24] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It high amounts in animal studies, it has issues like endocrine disruption issues, but it has not been translated to humans, the studies that have been translated to humans, like with oxybenzo and that has now been banned from sunscreens.
[19:36] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But there isn't enough to show that has issues in humans, but anyways, I think we're just playing it extra safe in kids because we know that they can absorb more.
[19:43] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So I would say just stick to mineral sunscreen, since we don't know if they're going to absorb too much of the chemical of that potentially cause an issue.
[19:51] \[SPEAKER_02\]: with adults, the recommendation is to just use any sunscreen really.
[19:56] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But I think that because the study show issues in high doses in animals, it still makes you wonder, oh, could it could it potentially be concerning if we use it all the time as humans?
[20:05] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So if you just want to play it safe,
[20:08] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I would say just stick to mineral sunscreen.
[20:10] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But also, I want people to know too that a couple of things sunscreen isn't 100% effective as well.
[20:17] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Like you don't want to just rely on sunscreen to protect you from the sun.
[20:20] \[SPEAKER_02\]: You want to also do some protective clothing try to be in the shade as much as you can.
[20:24] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And if you're outside, of course, reapplying it.
[20:27] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And when you're applying sunscreen, people also don't apply enough sunscreen.
[20:31] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So making sure that you're applying more than you think you need.
[20:37] \[SPEAKER_02\]: shot glass, think of a shot glass amount, just for the whole body, for that if it's just for the face, it's about a quarter to a half a teaspoon, or I tell people like three finger lengths worth of sunscreen.
[20:48] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Because a lot of people think sunscreen may, and because there's this whole controversy of people thinking that sunscreen can potentially increase your risk of not only skin cancer,
[21:01] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And they say, oh, the skin cancer rates have risen along with the increased use of sunscreen and correlation does not mean causation.
[21:11] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I mean, like, you know,
[21:13] \[SPEAKER_02\]: there was an interesting analogy I heard like there's eating ice cream is associated with like getting bitten more by sharks but more people eat ice cream in the summer and more people can potentially get bitten by sharks in the summer so it's it's that kind of thing so you know there's been higher there's just been more kind of skin cancer screenings more detection people are seeing a dermatologist more people are outside more people are tanning more especially kind of just with a whole big tanning craze starting in like the 60s, 70s
[21:40] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so we're just seeing all the people who tanned a lot in the 70s and 80s coming in.
[21:44] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I mean, I could just tell you, all my patients who've had skin cancers, they're not super surprised.
[21:49] \[SPEAKER_02\]: They're like, yeah, I baked out in the sun when I was in my 20s.
[21:52] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Because that's what you did.
[21:53] \[SPEAKER_02\]: You were a baby oil and or iodine and just laid out in the sun like in the 70s and 80s.
[21:59] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so all those lifestyle things
[22:02] \[SPEAKER_02\]: can, of course, contribute to increased rates of skin cancer, but it's interesting too because in 2022 there was like all this kind of fear around skin cancer that came up because there was this lab testing facility, the company is called Bally Shore, they tested all these sunscreens and found trace amounts of benzene in all these sunscreens and that like freaked people out because benzene is known to be a car surgeon.
[22:28] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so it gave sunscreen such a bad name, but benzene is not an actual sunscreen ingredient.
[22:34] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It was just a contaminant that was found on these sunscreens.
[22:37] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And you could actually find height amounts of benzene like if you go to a gas station or if your around certain chemicals like canes and whatnot.
[22:46] \[SPEAKER_02\]: anyway.
[22:47] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So I think that that really put a bad taste in people's mouth regarding sunscreen too.
[22:52] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And so I just, and then people also think sunscreen can minimize your vitamin D absorption.
[22:56] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It actually won't hinder your vitamin D absorption.
[22:59] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I just want to let people know vitamin D absorption metabolism is more complex than then protecting your skin from the sun.
[23:05] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It's also internal factors too.
[23:08] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Anyways, I wanted to reassure people that sunscreen we do know can protect you from skin cancer and that we do recommend it, but I would say if you just want to be safe use mineral sunscreen or if you don't want to like stress about thinking about stuff.
[23:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I appreciate you taking some time to debunk all that because I have believed all of the things that you have said, at least at one point, yeah, the correlation causation of skin cancer on the rise, like all of that stuff, I think also, again, for vanity sake, not wearing sunscreen is aging your skin faster than if we're not going to be wearing it.
[23:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So,
[23:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I mean, I think everyone should take everything that we're discussing, like, do your own research if you feel like there's some issues back against your belief, but yeah, I think better safe than sorry.
[24:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's where I am at this point.
[24:02] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, and I mean, I can't tell you, I've seen patients who have worn sunscreen in for...
[24:08] \[SPEAKER_02\]: multiple decades and you could a hundred percent tell the difference between those who's worked on protecting their skin and those who've never used sunscreen definitely plays a huge role.
[24:19] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But yes, I also want to tell people that sunscreen, you know, protecting your skin is not the only thing.
[24:25] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I think that how you eat can play a role too and I think more research is going into that like there's certain foods and supplements that can be protective and minimize like sunburns.
[24:35] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But sunscreen definitely is a huge tool that can be helpful.
[24:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, absolutely.
[24:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are there any ingredients that we should skip or avoid all together for both ourselves and our children?
[24:46] \[SPEAKER_02\]: When it comes to sunscreens?
[24:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, just in general, sorry, going back to a more broad approach and care, just in general, is there anything we shouldn't be putting that just maybe a couple of tips you have?
[24:58] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, I mean, the ingredients that I'm going to say are things that aren't really included in skin care, like, like, from aldehyde or from aldehyde based things are, they, there are some that can sort of slip into skin care, but usually that, yeah, that's usually not in skin care.
[25:17] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So I would try to minimize that, but I think there's a lot potentially here care products are like,
[25:22] \[SPEAKER_02\]: stuff, I don't know if it's like the carriage and treatments, but I would just, yeah, I would try to minimize that as much as you can.
[25:29] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Thalates, so interestingly, I think the Thalates that have been found to be harmful are actually not the one specifically found in skin care.
[25:41] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Thalates more like in other environmental things, so I hate to say just avoid Thalates, but the research is not there for in the skin.
[25:51] \[SPEAKER_02\]: this fragrance is interesting.
[25:52] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So fragrance, there's so many different chemicals that can cause a fragrance.
[25:59] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Some are completely fine in pretty much everyone, but there are many that can cause issues, irritation.
[26:07] \[SPEAKER_02\]: There's also this question of like consent fragrances being undercurrent disrupting.
[26:10] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Generally, if you have sensitive skin, we just tell people to avoid fragrance all
[26:21] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But otherwise, it all comes down to like, I guess how much of the, how much of the ingredient is in the product, just off the top of my head.
[26:32] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I don't, there's not something that I'm like, you have to look out for this, because usually if there's, if there is something that could be concerning, it's under a minuscule amount in a product, like it's a certain preservative.
[26:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, no, again, I appreciate you speaking to the fragrances and all of the other things that you're speaking to.
[26:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just again, kind of giving people such a broad overview of skincare dermatology and all the things that are coming up here with summertime chlorine sun.
[27:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I do want to know, is there something that every family should have in their medicine cabinet for skin care, I don't know, I have you heard of this thing called active skin have you heard of that product.
[27:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've been using it over and you sounds familiar.
[27:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, it's a new, it's almost like Newsporen, but you can use an app key and a wide variety things.
[27:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's something that I feel like I keep in our medicine cabinet for skin issues.
[27:27] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Okay, yes.
[27:28] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Oh, yeah, it's hypercours acid.
[27:29] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah, I'm a huge fan of hypercours acid sprays.
[27:32] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And there's a lot of great brands out there too, but yes, good to know that active skin.
[27:37] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yes, I feel like it's one of those like multi purpose.
[27:40] \[SPEAKER_02\]: multi-purpose anti-inflammatory antimicrobial without affecting your skin barrier without being too harsh on the skin products that can suit skin.
[27:50] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It can be good for wounds.
[27:52] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It can be good for acne.
[27:55] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So it's a multi-purpose product.
[27:57] \[SPEAKER_02\]: That's a great example.
[27:58] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Hypoclorist acids spray.
[27:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, okay, anything else that's lean, yay, nay.
[28:04] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So I definitely am a fan of Petra Lottom.
[28:08] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I don't, I know that's a whole other topic and it's, and I think the controversy comes with the way that
[28:16] \[SPEAKER_02\]: like petroleum jelly is processed.
[28:19] \[SPEAKER_02\]: If you talk to me or most dermatologists, it's considered to be safe, like the final byproduct of petroleum.
[28:28] \[SPEAKER_02\]: It's so helpful for cuts, moons, dry skin.
[28:34] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I think it should be a staple in a household.
[28:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Anything else you want to leave with listeners, maybe any myths, final myths you want to debunk or anything else you want to share?
[28:42] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Well, we talked about sunscreen a lot, but I want people to know that sunscreen prevents skin cancer and sunscreen is important when it comes to overall skin health, skin aging, and skin cancer prevention.
[28:57] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Well, I'm trying to think of any like really popular myths.
[29:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When should our children start going to a dermatologist?
[29:05] \[SPEAKER_02\]: That's a great question.
[29:06] \[SPEAKER_02\]: When it comes to, if you don't have any skin issues and you don't have a strong family history of a certain skin issue, then you don't have to see a dermatologist.
[29:16] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I would say until you're an adult, like in your 20s, if you just want to get a baseline skin check to make sure that all your moles look fine and that there aren't any glaring skin issues.
[29:30] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But honestly, anyone can see a dermatologist at any age.
[29:34] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So if a parent sees kind of a funny looking mole on their kid, of course, yeah, just go see a dermatologist and get a screening if there's a strong family history of skin cancer.
[29:46] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But basically, it won't hurt to see a dermatologist and the dermatologists can tell you based on your history, what they see on your skin, how often you would have to return for another skin check.
[30:00] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So if you have no idea, and you're like, my skin's healthy, but I don't know.
[30:03] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I have
[30:04] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I have a few moles, I don't know if I should get it.
[30:06] \[SPEAKER_02\]: You can always just see a dermatologist and they can be like, those are perfectly fine.
[30:09] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I don't need to see you for another, you know, number of years.
[30:12] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I would say like kids usually just come in if there's a, if there's a skin issue.
[30:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, okay.
[30:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, no, I appreciate it.
[30:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I said, I'm sorry for the listeners.
[30:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm kind of like a, I feel like we're a bouncy ball.
[30:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just going from topic to topic.
[30:25] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Oh, no, I love it.
[30:26] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yeah.
[30:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, we're good listeners.
[30:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If they want to learn more, find out more in here more and say, I work and they find you online.
[30:33] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yes, I am very active on Instagram Tik Tok in YouTube.
[30:37] \[SPEAKER_02\]: My handle is Dr. Mimina DR.M-A-M-I-N-A.
[30:41] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I also have a website, Dr.Mimina.com.
[30:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Perfect.
[30:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, as we wrap things up here, I'm gonna ask you the final two questions I ask all my guests.
[30:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: These are just more rapid fire.
[30:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The first one is, what has been a beneficial resource in your life that you wanna share with the listeners?
[30:54] \[SPEAKER_02\]: So for me, a huge reason why I practiced the way that I do and the reason why I pursued medicine and pursuing a moral-like holistic approach to medicine is because of my mom.
[31:07] \[SPEAKER_02\]: She has really shaped so much of how to approach healing.
[31:12] \[SPEAKER_02\]: She really opened my eyes to other forms of healing and to also be open-minded to
[31:18] \[SPEAKER_02\]: how to take care of people's bodies beyond just prescriptions, like looking at the state of their mind, looking at other alternatives that could be helpful.
[31:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, it's a great answer.
[31:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My last question is what is something you can't stop talking about?
[31:36] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Oh, so for me, I love talking about
[31:42] \[SPEAKER_02\]: how to help the skin from the inside out, that is a huge passion of mine.
[31:47] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I think I might differ from a lot of dermatologists.
[31:50] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Of course, dermatologists know that certain foods are helpful and certain things that we do internally are gonna play a role in our skin.
[31:57] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But to me, it's, I think it plays even a bigger impact on your skin health than what you put on your skin.
[32:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, is there a certain amount of water that we should be taking in at each day to help kind of flush out our skin?
[32:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My skin is more glistening when I hydrate.
[32:14] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Yes, so there's a couple ways to answer this.
[32:17] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Of course, I think that you should be like, I mean, I think I know the sounds so I probably overset.
[32:24] \[SPEAKER_02\]: I just like eight, eight cups of water a day minimum.
[32:29] \[SPEAKER_02\]: But I would actually pay attention to the color of your P.
[32:33] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And to know if your body is actually hydrated because everyone's different and even every day can be different in terms of how much hydration you need depending on what your body is going through, but if you're exercising all that stuff, but you want to make sure that your pee is clear and a lighter yellow to like not even yellow, but just more on the clear side.
[32:55] \[SPEAKER_02\]: And I think people can sort of tell when their urine looks different, oh, that needs
[33:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, absolutely.
[33:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, just kind of some of these simple more cost efficient, like you don't have to spend a ton of it in care kind of going back here to the adults.
[33:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't have to spend a ton to take good care of your skin just drinking good.
[33:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Exactly.
[33:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[33:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, well, I really appreciate, like I said, you all of your insight and I will be sure to link everything in the show notes for listeners, so thanks again for joining me.
[33:24] \[SPEAKER_02\]: Thank you so much for having me.
[33:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What did you think of the episode?
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