# Ep. - 1691 - SATURDAY SERIES: JO PIAZZA

An episode of [Reality Life with Kate Casey](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1154758766), 15 Aug 2026, 40 min.

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Jo Piazza is the bestselling author of Everyone Is Lying to You, The Sicilian Inheritance, and her newest novel, The Parisian Heist, and the host of the Under the Influence podcast. Kate and Jo open by tracing the origins of trad wife culture on social media, discussing Nara Smith's recent rejection of the tradwife label on Call Her Daddy, and whether a new wave of trad wife horror novels signals a real cultural shift or simply a more extreme splintering of the trend. The conversation then turns to The Parisian Heist, a dual timeline mystery following an American art student in 1990s Paris entangled with a powerful art dealing family, alongside the real history of Jo van Gogh Bonger, the sister in law who single handedly built Vincent van Gogh's legacy after his death, with Jo discussing her research trips to Paris and Auvers sur Oise and how the 2025 Louvre jewel heist informed the novel's climax. Reality Life with Kate Casey Summer Reading List: https://katecasey.substack.com/p/books-i-cant-stop-talking-about-this Vanity Fair Article: https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/story/martha-moxleys-diary What to Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecasey Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseyca Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itskatecasey?lang=en Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245 Amazon List: https://www.amazon.com/shop/katecasey Twitter: https://twitter.com/katecasey

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