# 'The People's Joker' Director Vera Drew

An episode of [IndieWire's Filmmaker Toolkit](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1142632832), 11 Apr 2024, 1 h 10 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/PMC7505059747.mp3?updated=1712767855

You may remember "The People’s Joker" as that film Warner Brothers tried to shut down for copyright infringement during the 2022 Toronto film Festival. The more interesting story about this film is the ingenuity and a punk rock spirit in which it was created. Drew takes us on a journey of how her origin story as a trans woman coming up in the comedy world started (in her head at least) to merge with that of the Joker, and the rather unusual way this film was dreamed up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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