# 'Origin' Director Ava Duvernay

An episode of [IndieWire's Filmmaker Toolkit](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1142632832), 18 Jan 2024, 39 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/PMC2309755911.mp3?updated=1705599588

Ava Duvernay joins us to dig into the deep emotions and complex histories that make up her extraordinary new film Origin. Hear how she saw a vision for a film within the 'unadaptable' best selling book by Isabelle Wilkerson, and how she blended genre and film form to not only connect important moments of human suffering across time, but also infuse them with love. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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