# Wizard of Oz at the Sphere, best iPhone cleaner app & top projectors (137, August 30, 2025)

An episode of [Rich On Tech](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1120941458), 30 Aug 2025, 1 h 48 min.

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Rich reviewed The Wizard of Oz at the Sphere in Las Vegas and explained how AI was used to reimagine the classic film. Tim called in about a friend whose phone was allegedly hacked multiple times. Rich explained that’s unlikely, but advised changing major account passwords and enabling two-factor authentication for Apple, Google, and social media. Mentioned: Proton Authenticator Philip Jones, Technical Editor & Lead Reviewer at Projector Reviews, will explain what to look for when buying a projector. He also mentioned premium models like the Epson QL7000, JVC DLA-NZ900, and Sony Bravia Projector 9, along with budget picks such as the Yaber V12 and Epson EpiqVision CO-W01. Rich highlighted Clever Cleaner, a free app that helps clear iPhone storage by removing similar photos, large videos, and other clutter. For cleaning up photo clutter, Rich suggested Files by Google for Android, Gemini for Mac, and Duplicate Photos Fixer for Windows/Mac. For Google Cloud, go to one.google.com Apple announced a September 9 “Awe Dropping” event, where it’s expected to unveil the iPhone 17 lineup, including a new thin and light model likely called the Air. Jefferson Graham, host of the Photowalks travel photography show, will share his favorite tips for capturing better shots on the go — plus his latest tech advice for travelers. Jeff recommended knowing iCloud.com/find and android.com/find for lost phones, and said Graeter’s in Cincinnati is the best ice cream he’s had out of 120 spots worldwide. Margie in Fullerton asked about free tools for animation and AI, and Rich suggested Adobe Express, Animaker, Google’s Veo and Flow, plus ElevenLabs for audio. John in Moorpark had issues with his AT&T router; Rich suggested calling AT&T for a fix, or trying 5G wireless from T-Mobile/Verizon, and checking the Speedtest ISP site for other local options. Ed in Rialto asked about voice-to-text for Windows, and Rich recommended Wispr Flow, calling it life-changing, and also mentioned Gmail’s “Help Me Write” feature. Verizon is trying to reinvent the home phone with a new feature called Family Line which rings up to five smartphones at once. Jim in Sherman Oaks asked about hotspot security, and Rich explained it’s generally safe if you use a strong password and WPA3 encryption. Scott Aaronson, professor at UT Austin and director of the Quantum Information Center, will explain the basics of quantum computing. Rich DeMuro brings you the latest tech news, helpful tips, gadget reviews, and more—plus interviews with industry experts—all in this weekly show. Call 1-888-RICH-101 (1-888-742-4101) to join in! Email your question here. How to Listen: 🎙️ Live on KFI AM 640 – Los Angeles, Saturdays from 11 AM – 2 PM PT 🎙️ Rebroadcast on 710 WOR – New York City, Sundays from 8 PM – 11 PM ET 📻 Syndicated on affiliates nationwide Get the podcast to via RSS, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Follow Rich on X, Instagram and Facebook. Download the MP3 here (choose episode, then scroll to bottom of page and look for ”Download”) Paid newsletter subscribers get ad-free, HQ audio here. Referral links for services I like. Amazon storefront for products I like. RichOnTech.tv Links may be affiliate. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Apple sets a date to launch the iPhone seventeen and
[0:05] Speaker 1: possibly a thin new model. My review of the Wizard
[0:09] Speaker 1: of Oz at the Sphere and how AI reimagined this
[0:13] Speaker 1: classic The free iPhone app you need to download right
[0:18] Speaker 1: now to clean up your storage on your phone, plus
[0:22] Speaker 1: your tech questions answered.
[0:25] Speaker 2: What's going on?
[0:25] Speaker 1: I'm rich Tamiro and this is rich on Tech. This
[0:29] Speaker 1: is the show where I talk about the tech stuff
[0:31] Speaker 1: I think you should know about. It's also the place
[0:33] Speaker 1: where I answer your questions about technology. I believe that
[0:37] Speaker 1: tech should be interesting, useful, and fun. Let's open up
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[1:09] Speaker 1: All right, We've got some great guests this week. I
[1:12] Speaker 1: say that every week, but this week is really great.
[1:15] Speaker 1: Philip Jones, lead reviewer at projector Reviews, is going to
[1:19] Speaker 1: explain what to look for when buying a projector maybe
[1:22] Speaker 1: you're thinking about using it for the football season, or
[1:24] Speaker 1: you want to watch movies on it, or just everyday
[1:27] Speaker 1: TV shows. Philip Jones will be here to talk about that,
[1:30] Speaker 1: and a friend of the show, Jefferson Graham.
[1:33] Speaker 2: You know him.
[1:33] Speaker 1: He is the smartphone photography guy. He also hosts the
[1:37] Speaker 1: Photo Walks travel photography show. He's going to share some
[1:41] Speaker 1: of his latest tips and tricks that he's picked up
[1:44] Speaker 1: along the way traveling to so many cities nationwide and
[1:48] Speaker 1: internationally to do his TV show. And later in the show,
[1:51] Speaker 1: Scott Aronson, Professor at U T Austin and director of
[1:55] Speaker 1: the Quantum Information Center. Yeah, he's going to tackle a
[1:59] Speaker 1: big one, the basics of quantum computing. We've heard so
[2:02] Speaker 1: much about quantum computing, especially how it's going to change
[2:05] Speaker 1: everything in the future. I thought it'd be pretty smart
[2:08] Speaker 1: just to get the basics about what that is. Well,
[2:13] Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in. Appreciate you listening this week. A
[2:17] Speaker 1: couple things. Well, first off, I celebrated my birthday, which
[2:21] Speaker 1: was a big one.
[2:22] Speaker 2: Well it wasn't a big one.
[2:24] Speaker 1: It wasn't like a milestone birthday, so don't don't yeah,
[2:27] Speaker 1: but it was it was just fun.
[2:28] Speaker 2: My mom was in town. You know, my family was there.
[2:32] Speaker 2: It was great.
[2:33] Speaker 1: And you know, it was during the work week, so
[2:35] Speaker 1: it was like I still went to work and everything.
[2:36] Speaker 1: But I did post on social media and many, many,
[2:39] Speaker 1: many of you did comment, and I do appreciate that.
[2:42] Speaker 1: You made me feel very very special because I wasn't
[2:44] Speaker 1: even gonna post about it, and I was like, ah,
[2:46] Speaker 1: you know, why not, I give you some attention.
[2:50] Speaker 2: Just kidding.
[2:51] Speaker 1: But this week I also so right after my birthday,
[2:53] Speaker 1: I went to I blined it to Las Vegas. I
[2:56] Speaker 1: was very excited for this, the premiere of The Wizard
[2:59] Speaker 1: of Oz at the Sphere. Now, if you haven't been
[3:02] Speaker 1: to the Sphere yet, it is quite incredible. It's this
[3:05] Speaker 1: giant ball that just sits in the middle of Las Vegas.
[3:09] Speaker 1: It's always showing something cool on its exosphere, the lights,
[3:14] Speaker 1: the programmable screen on the outside, it's always showing some
[3:17] Speaker 1: kind of funny little face or whatever they want. And
[3:20] Speaker 1: so I did that, went there and I was wondering.
[3:24] Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I want to see this, but
[3:26] Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure how it's technology.
[3:28] Speaker 2: But as soon as I.
[3:29] Speaker 1: Started interviewing some of the principles that created this film,
[3:32] Speaker 1: like the director and some of the other folks behind it.
[3:35] Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is all technology interesting. So
[3:39] Speaker 1: the big question is how do you take an eighty
[3:41] Speaker 1: six year old film and then sort of remake it
[3:45] Speaker 1: for a giant screen and with new technology. And so
[3:50] Speaker 1: they used AI a lot. I would pretty much say
[3:53] Speaker 1: this is the first AI film. That's really what it is.
[3:56] Speaker 1: They took an old movie and they recreated the entire
[3:59] Speaker 1: thing with AI.
[4:00] Speaker 2: That's the way I see it. I'll explain.
[4:02] Speaker 1: But the original movie, you know, premiered back in nineteen
[4:04] Speaker 1: thirty nine at now what's the TCL Chinese Theater. It
[4:07] Speaker 1: used to be the I think it was a man's
[4:10] Speaker 1: Chinese theater back in the day, and that was a
[4:12] Speaker 1: twenty four foot screen. Okay, now the sphere if you
[4:16] Speaker 1: haven't been inside, this is a sixteen K resolution, one
[4:21] Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand square foot screen.
[4:24] Speaker 3: Huge.
[4:25] Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's almost wrap around, that's really what
[4:27] Speaker 1: it is. It's very immersive. The seats move, so they've
[4:31] Speaker 1: got these rumble seats in there. They've got fans for wind,
[4:34] Speaker 1: they've got a scentse system, they've got just all kinds
[4:38] Speaker 1: of tricks in there, all the latest technology and the
[4:41] Speaker 1: sound system is like nothing you've ever experienced. They can
[4:44] Speaker 1: direct sounds right to your seat, so it is really
[4:48] Speaker 1: quite impressive. Now, the experience starts right when you get in.
[4:53] Speaker 1: They call it the Atrium. This is kind of like
[4:55] Speaker 1: when you go to an event at the Sphere. They've
[4:57] Speaker 1: got like an hour of time before where you actually
[5:00] Speaker 1: go into the event, right, you just kind of stand
[5:02] Speaker 1: around and explore what's in the what they call the atrium,
[5:06] Speaker 1: and they sort of dress it up for the show.
[5:08] Speaker 1: So for this, it's all sepiotoned when you get in,
[5:12] Speaker 1: so you know, imagine the beginning of the movie where
[5:15] Speaker 1: it's back in time and it's just you know, she's
[5:17] Speaker 1: in Kansas, and so the whole kind of atrium looks
[5:20] Speaker 1: like that, and then when you leave, it transforms fully
[5:24] Speaker 1: into all Green an Emerald City, and there's like an
[5:28] Speaker 1: interactive wizard that you can interact with, kind of like
[5:32] Speaker 1: so if you've been to a Sphere thing before, or
[5:33] Speaker 1: if you haven't, they used to have these really high
[5:36] Speaker 1: tech robots in there that you can interact with. The
[5:39] Speaker 1: wizard is sort of replacing them, but you know, they
[5:42] Speaker 1: can do multiple things at this place at once. It's
[5:44] Speaker 1: not just like one thing at a time. Anyway, See,
[5:46] Speaker 1: you get inside and it's very exciting. I was there
[5:49] Speaker 1: for the opening premiere and so it was kind of cool.
[5:52] Speaker 1: I mean to me, one of the best best things
[5:54] Speaker 1: was all the food was free, so I was like grabbing,
[5:56] Speaker 1: like I grab so much stuff. I grab like popcorn
[5:59] Speaker 1: and like can't and drinks whatever I could. So that
[6:02] Speaker 1: was kind of fun. When do you ever get that
[6:04] Speaker 1: right in a movie? But when you get inside the screen,
[6:08] Speaker 1: it's like you get inside and it looks like Radio
[6:10] Speaker 1: City Music Hall, which is also the same company that
[6:12] Speaker 1: owns this, and so it tricks you because the movie
[6:16] Speaker 1: starts in the middle of that little screen and then
[6:19] Speaker 1: all of a sudden it widens out to take up
[6:21] Speaker 1: the whole dome and people that is the first awe moment, like,
[6:25] Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is going to be different, and
[6:28] Speaker 1: the whole audience is like audibly wowed right there, and
[6:31] Speaker 1: so now you know you're in for something special and
[6:34] Speaker 1: that was really cool. Then comes the tornado scene. Now,
[6:39] Speaker 1: this is just incredible what they've done. So they are
[6:42] Speaker 1: using every single thing available to them in that sphere.
[6:46] Speaker 1: I'm talking wind leaves, Like there's actual leaves that kind
[6:50] Speaker 1: of move around in there. The seats are rumbling, people
[6:53] Speaker 1: were covering their faces, they were hooting, they were hollering.
[6:56] Speaker 1: It was so cool, Like I'm just sitting there smiling
[7:00] Speaker 1: as an adult. How many times you have a smile
[7:02] Speaker 1: on your face? Not very often, right, I'm just kidding,
[7:04] Speaker 1: I mean, but yes, you know, like something that brings
[7:07] Speaker 1: a true childish smile to your face. Every single person
[7:11] Speaker 1: in there was just literally and figuratively blown away. And
[7:15] Speaker 1: by the way, they I haven't seen the original movie
[7:18] Speaker 1: in a long time, but that.
[7:19] Speaker 2: Tornado scene lasted so long.
[7:22] Speaker 1: I think they just made it longer just to have
[7:23] Speaker 1: fun with like all the effects and that it was
[7:26] Speaker 1: so crazy. I want to post the video to my Instagram,
[7:29] Speaker 1: but they told us not to, you know, record video
[7:31] Speaker 1: during the movie, but I did, just because you know,
[7:34] Speaker 1: I like to break the rules every once in a while.
[7:35] Speaker 1: But I want to share it, but I don't because
[7:37] Speaker 1: I want to ruin it for you. It is it
[7:39] Speaker 1: is worth the price of admission right there. Anyway, once
[7:41] Speaker 1: you get into the movie, it's clear that AI is everywhere,
[7:45] Speaker 1: so they used it to do things like you know,
[7:47] Speaker 1: if you think about how small this was when it
[7:48] Speaker 1: first came out, they had to expand it to fit
[7:51] Speaker 1: this screen, so they used AI to sort of rebuild
[7:53] Speaker 1: the edges, the backgrounds, the extras, the crowds of people.
[7:58] Speaker 1: So it was it's very apparent to me the AI
[8:01] Speaker 1: use in this movie. And by the way, they worked
[8:04] Speaker 1: with Google Cloud to do this, and it was very
[8:07] Speaker 1: apparent to me. And yes, sometimes I'm like, Okay, that's AI,
[8:10] Speaker 1: that's AI, that's AI. But you can't let that ruin
[8:13] Speaker 1: your impression of this, like you still have to just
[8:16] Speaker 1: like any other movie, you gotta have a little suspension
[8:18] Speaker 1: of disbelief. They used AI to make, you know, to
[8:20] Speaker 1: make the resolution look better, so you know, you can
[8:24] Speaker 1: spot it if you're looking for it, but if you
[8:26] Speaker 1: just kind of enjoy, you'll enjoy it. Now there's also
[8:29] Speaker 1: physical effects, so they've got apples falling from the sky,
[8:32] Speaker 1: there was snow in there.
[8:33] Speaker 2: At one point.
[8:34] Speaker 1: There's fire, real fire, flying monkeys. I mean, I'm not kidding.
[8:39] Speaker 1: They went all out on this thing, and it was like,
[8:42] Speaker 1: I think at one point they're just like, you know what,
[8:44] Speaker 1: We're just gonna do the craziest, wildest stuff we can
[8:47] Speaker 1: imagine inside of a movie experience. And they did Now,
[8:51] Speaker 1: this was about eighty minutes, so I think that's that's
[8:53] Speaker 1: shorter than the standard movie. But I'm not kidding. It
[8:57] Speaker 1: flew by so fast. There were some I'm scares. I mean, look,
[9:01] Speaker 1: if you're a purist about the Wizard of Oz, you
[9:03] Speaker 1: might not like this version of it. But if you're
[9:07] Speaker 1: just someone that's like, okay, I want to see how
[9:09] Speaker 1: technology can change the way we tell stories. This is
[9:12] Speaker 1: like the best example I've ever experienced. People are asking me,
[9:16] Speaker 1: is it for kids? I think so. It's intense. There's
[9:18] Speaker 1: intense moments, so you have to understand, like what the
[9:21] Speaker 1: you know, what your kids can deal with, But it's
[9:23] Speaker 1: nothing like super scary.
[9:25] Speaker 2: Also, the best place to sit.
[9:26] Speaker 1: We sat in the two hundred section, which is right
[9:28] Speaker 1: front and center, so that I thought was pretty cool.
[9:31] Speaker 1: Tickets are not cheap. I mean, tickets start about over
[9:33] Speaker 1: one hundred dollars and they go up from there by
[9:36] Speaker 1: the way, and then you've got the popcorn and the drinks,
[9:38] Speaker 1: and it's not a cheap experience. But here's the deal.
[9:40] Speaker 1: Number one, you're in Vegas, you're gonna be spending money anyway.
[9:43] Speaker 1: I proceeded to gamble one hundred dollars in like less
[9:45] Speaker 1: than an hour. Guess what I have to tell you
[9:48] Speaker 1: about that? Zero nothing. I have no memories of it.
[9:51] Speaker 1: It was a waste of money. The experience I had
[9:54] Speaker 1: at the Wizard of Oz was incredible, and I'll be
[9:56] Speaker 1: telling my grandkids about it. Well, I mean maybe we'll see.
[9:59] Speaker 1: I'll just tell them to listen. Anyway, I thought it
[10:01] Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Definitely worth it if you are in
[10:04] Speaker 1: Las Vegas or you're planning a trip. And how wild
[10:07] Speaker 1: is it in this day and age twenty twenty five
[10:10] Speaker 1: that now Apple, Amazon and Google are making movies. I mean,
[10:15] Speaker 1: I get that Netflix is a it's a studio house,
[10:18] Speaker 1: but these three companies, the three tech companies in our world,
[10:22] Speaker 1: are now making movies.
[10:23] Speaker 3: Just let that.
[10:24] Speaker 2: Just think about that for a moment. Did you ever
[10:26] Speaker 2: think that would happen?
[10:27] Speaker 1: And by the way, this was also brilliant because guess what,
[10:29] Speaker 1: half the people that walk out of this sphere when
[10:31] Speaker 1: they see this version are going to go home and
[10:33] Speaker 1: rent the original.
[10:34] Speaker 2: So now the ip folks make money again.
[10:38] Speaker 1: Anyway, you can read my whole review on the website
[10:40] Speaker 1: richon tech dot TV. Coming up, I'm gonna tell you
[10:42] Speaker 1: about the free app that can help you clear up
[10:44] Speaker 1: the storage on your iPhone. You have to download this.
[10:47] Speaker 1: This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
[10:52] Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at
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[11:08] Speaker 1: can go for all the show notes. Often get a
[11:10] Speaker 1: lot of emails throughout the week, people say, Rich how
[11:12] Speaker 1: do I find this? How do I find that? It's
[11:14] Speaker 1: all on the website. I take really good notes and
[11:17] Speaker 1: if you scroll down to the section where it says
[11:18] Speaker 1: radio show, you will see all the notes for not
[11:21] Speaker 1: just today's show, but all of the shows out there.
[11:25] Speaker 2: Let's go to uh, John and Moore Park John. You're
[11:28] Speaker 2: on with Rich John. Are you there? Nope? Okay? Is
[11:37] Speaker 2: my is it me? Nope? Okay. Let's try uh. Let's
[11:39] Speaker 2: try Tim and Sacramento. Tim. Are you there?
[11:42] Speaker 4: Yes?
[11:42] Speaker 5: I am? How are you today?
[11:44] Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic? What can I help you with?
[11:46] Speaker 5: I appreciate you and your ring program. I have been
[11:50] Speaker 5: been listening to you since day one.
[11:53] Speaker 1: Oh well, I'd love to hear that. Thank you so much.
[11:55] Speaker 1: Anything changed throughout the years that we've been doing this.
[11:57] Speaker 1: It's been almost three now.
[12:00] Speaker 5: Well it's just ongoing up updates to the tech world.
[12:05] Speaker 5: Really really appreciate that.
[12:06] Speaker 2: All right, what can I help you with?
[12:09] Speaker 5: I'm actually calling on behalf of a friend who's having
[12:12] Speaker 5: just a terrible time with cell phones. Okay, she has
[12:19] Speaker 5: been through five cell phones in the past year or so,
[12:23] Speaker 5: four Androids and an iPhone, and somehow, in some ways,
[12:29] Speaker 5: someone seems to be able to find her phone and
[12:31] Speaker 5: tap into it and even control her phone.
[12:34] Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's not good.
[12:38] Speaker 5: That's why I'm calling you for any thoughts or suggestions.
[12:42] Speaker 5: He even tried to iPhone and it was having the
[12:45] Speaker 5: same problem and got interest with the Apple who did
[12:48] Speaker 5: not believe her.
[12:50] Speaker 2: Well, yeah I could. I could see that.
[12:53] Speaker 1: Well let me let me, let me go through some
[12:55] Speaker 1: of the steps I think that could help.
[12:57] Speaker 2: Number one.
[12:57] Speaker 1: It sounds to me, number one, it's not I get
[13:02] Speaker 1: these emails all the time people tell me their phone
[13:04] Speaker 1: is hacked, and I don't really understand what they mean
[13:07] Speaker 1: by that, because there is not a simple way for
[13:11] Speaker 1: someone to claim control over your phone.
[13:14] Speaker 2: There just is not.
[13:16] Speaker 1: These are two platforms that are very secure, iOS and
[13:20] Speaker 1: Android and now an Android. There are ways that could
[13:25] Speaker 1: make that process easier if you gave someone access to
[13:28] Speaker 1: your phone, But there's really not a way that someone
[13:30] Speaker 1: can remotely control your smartphone, Like there's not just like
[13:34] Speaker 1: some website they can log into and say, okay, let
[13:37] Speaker 1: me target this woman's phone, let me get in there,
[13:40] Speaker 1: and let me do a lot of stuff. So it's
[13:42] Speaker 1: tough to say that someone has taken over control of
[13:44] Speaker 1: your phone. Now, there are apps that you can install
[13:47] Speaker 1: on your phone that may do something similar to that,
[13:49] Speaker 1: like a team viewer or something like that, but you
[13:52] Speaker 1: know remote access apps, but you know you would have
[13:56] Speaker 1: to really install those and give someone access and hand
[13:59] Speaker 1: over the credit. And also you would see what's happening
[14:01] Speaker 1: on your screen if that was the case. So it's
[14:04] Speaker 1: very unlikely that the phone is being taken over by someone. Now,
[14:08] Speaker 1: with that said, there are ways that someone can get
[14:11] Speaker 1: access to different parts of the device, and what this
[14:15] Speaker 1: really comes down to is your social media, your email,
[14:19] Speaker 1: your iPhone, iCloud, and also Android. So if they had
[14:24] Speaker 1: access to their login, which is either their Apple ID
[14:29] Speaker 1: or their Android Google ID, they might be able to
[14:32] Speaker 1: do something there, but again highly unlikely because there's so
[14:36] Speaker 1: many safeguards in place by Apple and Google to not
[14:41] Speaker 1: let this stuff happen. And the only times we've ever
[14:43] Speaker 1: seen a true example of a phone being hacked is
[14:48] Speaker 1: in a couple of ways. Number One, you're sort of
[14:50] Speaker 1: a head of state or someone that's very prominent, and
[14:53] Speaker 1: you click on a link and you get some sort
[14:56] Speaker 1: of spyware or malware downloaded to your phone, and next
[15:00] Speaker 1: thing you know, that is you know. And the only
[15:02] Speaker 1: times you've ever seen that is really, like I said,
[15:04] Speaker 1: heads of state or journalists. It's not just regular people
[15:07] Speaker 1: that that's happening too.
[15:09] Speaker 2: Now.
[15:09] Speaker 1: The more common way is if you sideload an app,
[15:12] Speaker 1: and this is why Apple is sideloading for years, so
[15:15] Speaker 1: it doesn't even happen on the iPhone at least in
[15:18] Speaker 1: the US. And then with Android, yes you can sideload,
[15:21] Speaker 1: but there's so many precautions in place. When you get
[15:24] Speaker 1: a new phone, it doesn't just let you sideload anymore.
[15:27] Speaker 1: You have to say yes like three different times to
[15:29] Speaker 1: be able to download something that's not from the Google
[15:32] Speaker 1: Play Store and install it on your phone. So again,
[15:35] Speaker 1: not very plausible that someone could just take over access
[15:39] Speaker 1: on your phone. So when it comes to the hacking
[15:41] Speaker 1: when it comes to your friend. What I would recommend
[15:44] Speaker 1: is start with the big account, your Apple account, and
[15:47] Speaker 1: your Google account and your social media go through. Change
[15:51] Speaker 1: those passwords. That's number one. Change the passwords to something strong.
[15:55] Speaker 1: Use something that's at least fourteen characters, use a password
[15:57] Speaker 1: generator to make those and save those. Then you gotta
[16:01] Speaker 1: go in and turn on two factor authentication. It's not bulletproof,
[16:05] Speaker 1: but it is the best protection you have against someone
[16:07] Speaker 1: gaining access to your account. And the third thing I
[16:10] Speaker 1: would do is find the in the settings. There's typically
[16:15] Speaker 1: in your account settings under security, there's typically a setting
[16:18] Speaker 1: that says log me out everywhere else. And so I
[16:21] Speaker 1: just had to do this with my Instagram because it
[16:23] Speaker 1: thought someone was hacking me, but I was just logging
[16:25] Speaker 1: in from a new phone, and so it logged me
[16:28] Speaker 1: out everywhere. Every one of my phones I had Instagram
[16:30] Speaker 1: installed on, it logged me out. And you can go in,
[16:33] Speaker 1: is that we have logged you out of all your
[16:34] Speaker 1: other devices. You can do that on Facebook, on Instagram,
[16:37] Speaker 1: on Gmail. You can just go through and just log
[16:41] Speaker 1: yourself out of all these other places that you might
[16:43] Speaker 1: be logged in. And if someone happened to have access,
[16:45] Speaker 1: they would be logged out as well.
[16:47] Speaker 2: So those are the things I would do.
[16:48] Speaker 1: And if you need a good two factor authentication app,
[16:51] Speaker 1: which I always recommend an app over a phone number
[16:54] Speaker 1: is a Proton Authenticator is excellent, excellent, excellent, and that
[16:59] Speaker 1: is a lab for iPhone and Android. But again, change
[17:02] Speaker 1: all those passwords set up to two factor authentication. That
[17:05] Speaker 1: should be your best defense against quote unquote someone hacking
[17:09] Speaker 1: or taking over your phone.
[17:11] Speaker 2: Eighty eight rich one O one.
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[17:16] Speaker 1: rich on tech dot TV coming up. Yes, I'm gonna
[17:19] Speaker 1: tell you about the app to clear you phone storage
[17:21] Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk projectors right here. Welcome back to
[17:25] Speaker 1: rich on tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,
[17:28] Speaker 1: talking technology at Triple eight rich one O one eight
[17:31] Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.
[17:34] Speaker 2: We'll get back to the phone lines in just a moment.
[17:37] Speaker 1: Chad writes in on the website rich on tech dot tv,
[17:40] Speaker 1: what is the best power bank to buy for your
[17:43] Speaker 1: iPhone and iPad pro twenty thousand and above. I would
[17:47] Speaker 1: appreciate it, so, Chad, I would recommend the a Belkan
[17:51] Speaker 1: power bank it's called the boost Charge Power Bank twenty K.
[17:55] Speaker 1: I've got one of these and it's it's forty dollars
[17:58] Speaker 1: or less. Comes in a bunch of and that's a
[18:01] Speaker 1: twenty thousand million amp hours, which means you're going to
[18:04] Speaker 1: get a lot of extra playback on your devices there.
[18:08] Speaker 1: And it'll work with both It's got three ports, got
[18:10] Speaker 1: the USBC and USBA, so you'll be able to plug
[18:13] Speaker 1: in whatever you need and belcan you know they do
[18:15] Speaker 1: a good job.
[18:16] Speaker 2: They really do.
[18:16] Speaker 1: I also like Anchor, probably find them for cheaper and
[18:20] Speaker 1: I do carry around an Anchor. They've had some issues
[18:22] Speaker 1: lately with some of the recalls, but they're still good brands.
[18:25] Speaker 1: So those are the two that I would recommend taking
[18:27] Speaker 1: a look at. Thanks for the email. All right on
[18:29] Speaker 1: with us now is Philip Jones, technical editor and lead
[18:33] Speaker 1: reviewer at Projector Reviews Projector reviews dot com. We're going
[18:38] Speaker 1: to talk about projectors. Philip, Welcome to the show.
[18:41] Speaker 3: Hey, how are you rich?
[18:42] Speaker 1: I am doing fantastic, Thanks so much for joining me.
[18:46] Speaker 1: So what is the current trend in the projector industry?
[18:51] Speaker 6: Well, A lot of times when you look at projectors,
[18:52] Speaker 6: you're thinking about the old traditional home cinema. But the
[18:56] Speaker 6: trend seems to be utilizing projectors as TV replacements or
[19:01] Speaker 6: in applications where you would not want to utilize a
[19:04] Speaker 6: flat panel TV, like maybe a campsite or backyard theater.
[19:09] Speaker 3: So those seem to be the bigger trends right now.
[19:12] Speaker 1: That was the first time that I I mean, as
[19:14] Speaker 1: a kid, I remember the giant like they used to
[19:17] Speaker 1: have like projector TVs too, right where it was like
[19:19] Speaker 1: the three lights at the bottom, like those giant lights.
[19:23] Speaker 1: I mean that was I don't We didn't have one
[19:24] Speaker 1: of those, but I know a friend did. It was
[19:25] Speaker 1: like yeah, it was like I've just that like just
[19:28] Speaker 1: came back to me. I kind of forgot about those.
[19:30] Speaker 1: But the first time I used the projector was during
[19:32] Speaker 1: the pandemic when we were starting to watch backyard movies
[19:35] Speaker 1: and so the whole name of the game was getting
[19:37] Speaker 1: like you know, the brightness and all this stuff. But
[19:39] Speaker 1: I feel like that's when a lot of people that
[19:41] Speaker 1: were not projector people got into that world.
[19:44] Speaker 2: Is that true? You think?
[19:46] Speaker 3: I think so.
[19:47] Speaker 6: And while flat panels are getting larger, there's still some
[19:50] Speaker 6: applications where even those gigantic flat panels are not going
[19:52] Speaker 6: to work. Yes, you can go out and buy a
[19:55] Speaker 6: one hundred inch flat panel. Now I saw them at
[19:57] Speaker 6: Costco for under like three or four thousand, But I'd
[20:00] Speaker 6: like to see you carry one of those up up
[20:03] Speaker 6: eight flight of stairs in a New York walk up
[20:04] Speaker 6: apartment or so A lot of times, even though you
[20:07] Speaker 6: can get a massive flat panel, a projector with a
[20:11] Speaker 6: small screen or a projector on a wall maybe a
[20:13] Speaker 6: better application for you.
[20:14] Speaker 1: So I was going to ask about that, are people
[20:16] Speaker 1: using projectors to replace their TV? And what do you
[20:18] Speaker 1: think the consideration is for that, Like what are you
[20:20] Speaker 1: going to miss if you do that?
[20:22] Speaker 6: Well, normally there's a lot of people that are starting
[20:24] Speaker 6: to use projectors as a replacement for their TV. So
[20:27] Speaker 6: there's actually two types of categories of projectors that are
[20:29] Speaker 6: designed to do that.
[20:30] Speaker 3: The first is they call them kind of a laser TV.
[20:33] Speaker 6: These are ultra short row projectors that sit maybe less
[20:37] Speaker 6: than a foot from your wall but can project like
[20:39] Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty inch image and you can use
[20:42] Speaker 6: it on a white wall or you could use it
[20:44] Speaker 6: on a screen.
[20:46] Speaker 3: The other one is called a lifestyle projector.
[20:47] Speaker 6: It looks almost like a tube, but it has a
[20:50] Speaker 6: projector and a sound system in it, and it also
[20:52] Speaker 6: has all the smart features, which makes that really easy
[20:55] Speaker 6: to move from place to place, like maybe in an apartment.
[20:58] Speaker 6: The big thing that had to happen more brightness, and
[21:00] Speaker 6: you're starting to see that in projectors to help overcome
[21:04] Speaker 6: ambient light, along with specialized screens that actually reject light
[21:08] Speaker 6: from any direction.
[21:09] Speaker 3: But when a projector is shining light at it.
[21:12] Speaker 1: That's interesting. So you kind of have to decide you
[21:14] Speaker 1: want the short throw. Those are more expensive than a
[21:16] Speaker 1: standard projector, is that right?
[21:18] Speaker 2: Let mean.
[21:20] Speaker 3: For brightness, it is possible.
[21:22] Speaker 6: Normally you have those premium home theater projectors and those
[21:26] Speaker 6: are what you're paying for is more of the black
[21:28] Speaker 6: level than anything else. But when you compare the lens
[21:31] Speaker 6: assembly on an ultra short throw to a standard throw projector,
[21:34] Speaker 6: the ultra short throw lens is more complex, so it
[21:38] Speaker 6: normally does carry a little bit more command, a little
[21:40] Speaker 6: bit more of a price premium, but not that much.
[21:43] Speaker 3: These days.
[21:43] Speaker 6: You can get a great one starting at about twenty
[21:45] Speaker 6: five hundred dollars, and that you can get and maybe
[21:48] Speaker 6: one of the top of the lines is maybe seven
[21:50] Speaker 6: or eight thousand dollars.
[21:51] Speaker 2: So you how long you've been covering this stuff.
[21:54] Speaker 6: Well, I used to be the product technology manager for
[21:57] Speaker 6: Sony Electronics for over a decade. I've been messing around
[22:00] Speaker 6: projectors for probably fifteen years. I have been the one
[22:05] Speaker 6: of the principal members of Projector Reviews for about six
[22:08] Speaker 6: years now.
[22:09] Speaker 2: Okay, so what have you I mean?
[22:11] Speaker 1: Like, if someone is just thinking, oh, projectors, and they
[22:14] Speaker 1: kind of have this old kind of thought in their
[22:15] Speaker 1: head about what projectors are, how do you think the
[22:18] Speaker 1: tech has changed or improved over the years.
[22:20] Speaker 3: Okay, so the first thing the brightness.
[22:23] Speaker 6: That there has been a massive improvement in the efficiency
[22:26] Speaker 6: of the light sources that are built into these projectors,
[22:28] Speaker 6: so they're much much, much, much much brighter in a
[22:32] Speaker 6: smaller package. And that tends to be the biggest problem
[22:35] Speaker 6: because a lot of times you want to watch video
[22:39] Speaker 6: or football games or something and the room is not
[22:42] Speaker 6: pitch black. Having more brightness allows you to overcome that
[22:46] Speaker 6: and maybe have someone sitting right next to you reading
[22:48] Speaker 6: a book and you still get a vibrant a vibrant image.
[22:51] Speaker 3: Then you add.
[22:51] Speaker 6: Things like smart features, so they want because they want
[22:54] Speaker 6: to to replace TVs. You're starting to see Google TV
[22:57] Speaker 6: or Android TV operating system. And you also start to
[23:01] Speaker 6: see much better sound systems than what you can put
[23:03] Speaker 6: into a flat panel because a flat a thin panel
[23:06] Speaker 6: makes thin sound. So these projectors have more room for speakers,
[23:10] Speaker 6: so they actually sound better.
[23:12] Speaker 1: So what is the best type of content? You mentioned sports?
[23:14] Speaker 1: I mean, obviously sports and movies come to mind. Is
[23:17] Speaker 1: that you know, do those work on a projector?
[23:20] Speaker 7: Oh?
[23:20] Speaker 3: Absolutely?
[23:20] Speaker 6: I mean, of course, most people when they think of projectors,
[23:22] Speaker 6: they think of movies, you know, turning off the lights
[23:24] Speaker 6: and watching the latest blockbuster. But if you but watching
[23:28] Speaker 6: a football game, I'm gonna I'm when I get done
[23:30] Speaker 6: with this, I'm gonna go watch and is watching I
[23:32] Speaker 6: think the text is Ohio game and watching that game
[23:36] Speaker 6: on a one hundred and thirty inch screen is dramatic.
[23:39] Speaker 6: My house is super Bowl Central. I can't tell you
[23:43] Speaker 6: how people email me every Super Bowl saying are you
[23:46] Speaker 6: having a party?
[23:46] Speaker 3: Can I come over?
[23:47] Speaker 8: The other?
[23:48] Speaker 1: I mean, look at your job? I mean come on,
[23:50] Speaker 1: it's like that's what I want to watch.
[23:52] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[23:52] Speaker 6: The other thing that's really growing in popularity is gaming.
[23:55] Speaker 6: The input lag on these units, you are getting really
[23:57] Speaker 6: really small, really really fast, rivaling rival that will rival
[24:01] Speaker 6: a consumer flat panel TV and playing Halo or Grand
[24:05] Speaker 6: Turismo on a one hundred and twenty, one hundred and
[24:08] Speaker 6: fifty or two hundred inch screen is a little bit
[24:11] Speaker 6: better of a perspective than playing in on a fifty
[24:13] Speaker 6: five inch TV.
[24:14] Speaker 1: My pretty ser Bobo just put his arm up. He's like, yes, please,
[24:17] Speaker 1: I'll Halo. Is that the is that the?
[24:19] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[24:19] Speaker 2: He wants to play Halo?
[24:21] Speaker 1: So what about these small projectors? Like I did a
[24:23] Speaker 1: story with x Jimmy. There's also one like the Nebula Capsule,
[24:28] Speaker 1: Like these are like really small portable projectors that you
[24:31] Speaker 1: can bring like you know, hotel room if you wanted.
[24:33] Speaker 1: What about those coming on the scene, Like what should
[24:35] Speaker 1: people look for in those?
[24:36] Speaker 3: Well, the there's a couple of things the Some of them.
[24:40] Speaker 6: Are battery operated, but I will tell you the battery
[24:42] Speaker 6: is nice for super convenience, but battery is going to
[24:46] Speaker 6: limit the brightness of the unit. So and it also
[24:49] Speaker 6: takes a real estate that could be utilized for sound
[24:53] Speaker 6: or a more powerful light source. So if you ultimate portability,
[24:57] Speaker 6: maybe battery smart features are great and sound system because
[25:00] Speaker 6: you just grab this thing, connect it to your phone
[25:02] Speaker 6: and you're all as a hot spot and you can
[25:04] Speaker 6: watch movies or Netflix anywhere. If you if I would say,
[25:09] Speaker 6: probably look for a little bit more brightness. A lot
[25:12] Speaker 6: of times people will use these these terms such as
[25:15] Speaker 6: lux or or think led lumens, but what you will
[25:19] Speaker 6: look for is lumens. That's like, that is the standard measurement.
[25:23] Speaker 6: So you need more lumens to overcome ambient light or
[25:28] Speaker 6: a brighter scrape. So if I was going to get
[25:30] Speaker 6: a small projector, like I like the anchors, the little
[25:33] Speaker 6: the little nebulous those are those are great. The x
[25:36] Speaker 6: GM's are great. There's a lot of companies that make
[25:38] Speaker 6: really great projectors. Those little small ones are.
[25:40] Speaker 3: Normally maybe.
[25:45] Speaker 6: Uh, seven hundred lumens, which is great for an eight
[25:48] Speaker 6: inch TV.
[25:49] Speaker 3: But you can get some companies or making.
[25:51] Speaker 6: Them that size that are now fourteen hundred and fifteen
[25:55] Speaker 6: hundred lumens.
[25:56] Speaker 3: It's not going to have a battery built.
[25:57] Speaker 6: Then it'll be around the same price, but that'll allow
[26:00] Speaker 6: you to put like one hundred and something one hundred
[26:02] Speaker 6: and twenty inch screen outside, which is actually nice.
[26:04] Speaker 1: But minimum seven hundred lumens is a pretty good number
[26:07] Speaker 1: for about an eighty inch viewing screen.
[26:09] Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say even if you seven hundred looks
[26:13] Speaker 6: really really good. At a minimum, you probably want to
[26:17] Speaker 6: be at four hundred would be my recommendation, because that
[26:21] Speaker 6: will make it look the colors look more vibrant when
[26:23] Speaker 6: they're shown at brighter, higher brightnesses.
[26:26] Speaker 1: All right, we're running out of time here, but I
[26:28] Speaker 1: want to get some from some specific recommendations from you.
[26:31] Speaker 1: Any any recommendations you want to leave us with for
[26:33] Speaker 1: the pricey and then the budget projector.
[26:36] Speaker 6: Okay, So if I was going to buy a big Boy,
[26:38] Speaker 6: a pricey unit, those are normally there's there's big there's
[26:41] Speaker 6: brands that are way out there at the price of
[26:42] Speaker 6: a small BMW. But the ones that if you're looking
[26:45] Speaker 6: for ultra premium right now, it's probably epsin JBC and Sony.
[26:50] Speaker 6: So my favorite right now is the big It's an Epsen.
[26:53] Speaker 6: It's called a QL seven thousand. It has ten thousand
[26:57] Speaker 6: lumens of brightness. We're going to be showing one of
[26:59] Speaker 6: those at Cedia on a two hundred inch cinema screen
[27:04] Speaker 6: and you'll be able to watch that thing with the
[27:06] Speaker 6: lights on.
[27:06] Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
[27:07] Speaker 1: Well, okay, am I getting the price right? About thirty
[27:10] Speaker 1: something thousand.
[27:11] Speaker 3: It's about thirty six thousand.
[27:12] Speaker 2: Okay, car, I'll just get this.
[27:15] Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what somebody wants. It's super bright.
[27:17] Speaker 6: If you're looking for inky inky inky blacks like I
[27:20] Speaker 6: would probably do something like a JVC n Z nine
[27:23] Speaker 6: hundred or a Sony Bravia nine.
[27:26] Speaker 3: Okay, Now, value people, my.
[27:30] Speaker 6: Favorite value system unit out there under five hundred bucks
[27:32] Speaker 6: would be something like Yaba makes one that's called a
[27:35] Speaker 6: V twelve. It's like three hundred ninety nine dollars about
[27:39] Speaker 6: seven hundred lumens. It's it's a good little projector for
[27:44] Speaker 6: the price. And then there's another one called there's a
[27:46] Speaker 6: little EPSOM called a Epavision flex I think co WO one.
[27:53] Speaker 6: That's about four hundred actually that's about four hundred dollars,
[27:57] Speaker 6: but that is three thousand humans. But it has a bulb,
[28:01] Speaker 6: so it's not like these. Most of these a solid
[28:04] Speaker 6: state that has a bulb. But if you just want
[28:05] Speaker 6: brightness in an itty bitty box, that's the way.
[28:08] Speaker 2: To go, all right.
[28:09] Speaker 1: H Philip Jones with projector reviews dot com. Thanks so
[28:13] Speaker 1: much for joining me today. Great information. Really appreciate it.
[28:16] Speaker 1: I'll put a link to everything you mentioned on the website.
[28:18] Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV coming up. I will share
[28:21] Speaker 1: that app that helps you clear the storage on your
[28:23] Speaker 1: iPhone right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to
[28:27] Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,
[28:29] Speaker 1: talking technology triple eight rich one oh one eight eight
[28:33] Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. All
[28:36] Speaker 1: right here it is. I know you've been waiting for this.
[28:38] Speaker 1: I love when I find something like this. When I
[28:41] Speaker 1: find something like this, I don't know why there's this Like,
[28:44] Speaker 1: there's this part of me that I'm like, I don't
[28:46] Speaker 1: want to share this because it's so good.
[28:47] Speaker 2: Why do I feel that way? Is that that's like
[28:49] Speaker 2: a bad way to feel.
[28:50] Speaker 1: But every time I find something that's so good, I'm like,
[28:53] Speaker 1: I don't want to share this with anyone because it's
[28:54] Speaker 1: so good. But that's my whole job is to share
[28:57] Speaker 1: this with you. So when I found this, I had
[28:58] Speaker 1: to check in double check to see if it is
[29:01] Speaker 1: as good as I believe it is, and it really is.
[29:04] Speaker 1: So one of the most popular questions I get is
[29:06] Speaker 1: rich how do I clear out the storage on my iPhone?
[29:10] Speaker 1: I am up against the storage they want me to
[29:12] Speaker 1: pay for iCloud or I'm out of my iCloud because Basically,
[29:15] Speaker 1: what's happening is it becomes so easy to take large
[29:19] Speaker 1: videos and tons of photos on our phone.
[29:21] Speaker 2: No one goes through and takes the time to actually
[29:24] Speaker 2: clear those out. So what do we do.
[29:25] Speaker 1: We get that email from Google or that email from
[29:28] Speaker 1: Apple saying, hey, you need to up your eyecloud or
[29:29] Speaker 1: pay for eCloud, and you probably just do it because
[29:32] Speaker 1: it starts out at ninety nine cents a dollar ninety nine.
[29:35] Speaker 1: Then it just keeps going up and up and up.
[29:37] Speaker 1: So here is the way to clear out the photos
[29:40] Speaker 1: that you don't need on your iPhone or the large videos. Okay,
[29:46] Speaker 1: and the app, this app that I'm gonna tell you about,
[29:49] Speaker 1: is completely free. There are no ads. I couldn't believe it.
[29:52] Speaker 1: No ads, and I had to double check. There are
[29:55] Speaker 1: no in app purchases. So it's not even gonna try
[29:57] Speaker 1: to sell you on anything else. I mean talk about
[29:59] Speaker 1: the game. What this company is doing is they're basically
[30:03] Speaker 1: going to say, oh, you're gonna love this so much,
[30:04] Speaker 1: you're probably going to check out the other software that
[30:06] Speaker 1: we offer, and you might buy that because they do
[30:08] Speaker 1: offer some other software that's really good, by the way,
[30:11] Speaker 1: So here it is. It's called Clever Cleaner, Clever Cleaner.
[30:16] Speaker 1: And if you go on the app Store you want
[30:19] Speaker 1: to search this up, it says Clever Cleaner AI Cleanup
[30:23] Speaker 1: app Clever Files Incorporated. Okay, make sure you get the
[30:27] Speaker 1: right one. Right now, it's number ninety four in productivity.
[30:30] Speaker 1: I'm guessing tomorrow it's gonna be number one, because once
[30:32] Speaker 1: the word gets out about this app, it's gonna jump.
[30:36] Speaker 2: So here's the deal.
[30:37] Speaker 1: It was developed by Clever Files. This is a company
[30:40] Speaker 1: that makes another app that I really like called disc Drill.
[30:43] Speaker 1: It's a data recovery app and it helps you do
[30:45] Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. But this is using AI and
[30:47] Speaker 1: it's all happening local on your phone, by the way,
[30:50] Speaker 1: so it's not sending anything to the cloud. You can
[30:52] Speaker 1: do this app with your phone in airplane mode. It'll
[30:55] Speaker 1: still work. But basically it's going to use AI to
[30:57] Speaker 1: find not just duplicates, but also similar photos and videos.
[31:01] Speaker 2: So when you go into.
[31:02] Speaker 1: This app, there are four screens at the bottom, four
[31:05] Speaker 1: little tabs, okay, and the first tab is similar and
[31:09] Speaker 1: so it's going to scan through all your stuff. And
[31:11] Speaker 1: I've got two six hundred and ninety two files and
[31:14] Speaker 1: it's going to say you know, you can do smart cleanup,
[31:17] Speaker 1: which will just do this stuff for you, or you
[31:19] Speaker 1: can do one by one. It'll show you the pictures
[31:22] Speaker 1: side by side and you can decide. It'll say which
[31:24] Speaker 1: one it thinks is the better shot. You can choose
[31:27] Speaker 1: that and then move the other one to trash. So
[31:29] Speaker 1: that's number one. Then you've got my favorite, the heavies.
[31:33] Speaker 1: The heavies are your large files basically your large videos,
[31:37] Speaker 1: and so you can sort by your largest videos. And
[31:42] Speaker 1: this is just the feature that I don't think it's
[31:45] Speaker 1: built into the iPhone, but I wish it was. It's
[31:47] Speaker 1: built into Android, not iPhone. But you can sort your
[31:50] Speaker 1: videos by the largest So if you are having trouble
[31:54] Speaker 1: with taking new pictures on your phone, just literally go
[31:57] Speaker 1: to the heavies, delete the largest video files long as
[32:00] Speaker 1: you don't need it anymore, and that will get rid
[32:02] Speaker 1: of all that storage and free up space on your phone.
[32:06] Speaker 1: I've got my first one is seven gigs, second one
[32:09] Speaker 1: is seven gigs, third one is six gigs, five gigs,
[32:11] Speaker 1: five gigs, four gigs. So that's my recommendation. If you
[32:15] Speaker 1: need to free up storage fast. Then you've got the
[32:18] Speaker 1: screen shots. This is all the screen shots on your phone,
[32:21] Speaker 1: you take up all these screenshots. I've got one point
[32:23] Speaker 1: twenty nine gigabytes of screenshots on my phone. Guess what,
[32:26] Speaker 1: I probably don't need any of those. I can delete those.
[32:29] Speaker 1: Then you've got your lives so you can convert them
[32:33] Speaker 1: into a standard picture if you want to save space,
[32:36] Speaker 1: Like this live photo is twelve megabytes, twelve megabytes, ten megabytes.
[32:40] Speaker 2: You probably don't need all those.
[32:41] Speaker 1: And then you've got another feature in the middle, a
[32:44] Speaker 1: Tinder like feature called swipe Photos, so it groups all
[32:48] Speaker 1: your photos by month, and then you can just swipe through.
[32:51] Speaker 1: So if I see this photo, I can swipe left
[32:54] Speaker 1: and it deletes it, swipe right to keep it, swipe
[32:57] Speaker 1: right to keep it, swipe right to keep it.
[33:00] Speaker 2: So you can do all that.
[33:01] Speaker 1: So this app is really really handy, and I just
[33:05] Speaker 1: love it, and I think it's one of those things
[33:07] Speaker 1: that once you discover it, you're gonna be like, oh
[33:08] Speaker 1: my gosh, now here is the caveat. You have to
[33:11] Speaker 1: understand if you are using iCloud to save your photos,
[33:15] Speaker 1: any changes you make inside this app, if you are
[33:18] Speaker 1: deleting photos, they will delete out of your eye cloud.
[33:22] Speaker 1: That is the way the iPhone works. It is a
[33:24] Speaker 1: mirror image of your camera roll. So let me repeat that.
[33:27] Speaker 1: If you go through and delete all your pictures and think, oh,
[33:30] Speaker 1: I'm just clearing up the storage on my phone, no,
[33:32] Speaker 1: you will delete those out of your eCloud. So understand
[33:35] Speaker 1: that you are only deleting stuff that you do not
[33:38] Speaker 1: need ever again in your life. Okay, you have to
[33:41] Speaker 1: be very understanding of that. Now, if you are using
[33:44] Speaker 1: something like a Google Photos on your iPhone, if you
[33:47] Speaker 1: deleted these pictures, they're not going to delete out of
[33:49] Speaker 1: your Google Photos. So if you're just trying to clear
[33:51] Speaker 1: up space on your physical phone and not in the
[33:54] Speaker 1: cloud for Google Photos, you can also do this, but
[33:57] Speaker 1: just keep in mind your photos will stay in Google,
[34:00] Speaker 1: they will delete off your phone. So that's what you
[34:02] Speaker 1: need to know.
[34:03] Speaker 2: Again.
[34:03] Speaker 1: It is called Clever Cleaner, and it is available for
[34:08] Speaker 1: the iPhone and it is free no ads. And I
[34:12] Speaker 1: think this is really really cool. And the thing is,
[34:15] Speaker 1: you might say, Rich, the iPhone has a feature that
[34:18] Speaker 1: will show me my duplicates. It's right in the photos
[34:21] Speaker 1: app I got you. And I would say to you, well,
[34:24] Speaker 1: I'm glad you noticed that, because I don't think anyone
[34:26] Speaker 1: ever has but Apple literally only matches the exact file,
[34:31] Speaker 1: like if you have two of the exact same photos
[34:33] Speaker 1: somehow on your phone, this will find the similar photos
[34:37] Speaker 1: that are very very similar. There the logo looks like
[34:42] Speaker 1: it's like colorful and it looks like almost a circle
[34:46] Speaker 1: with like a little film and photos inside. But it's
[34:50] Speaker 1: only available for iPhone, not Android. Now, if you're on
[34:52] Speaker 1: Android and you want something, there are some things that
[34:55] Speaker 1: are similar. There is one called Remo, which is let's
[35:00] Speaker 1: see Remo photos. I gotta find this, Oh gosh, oh,
[35:04] Speaker 1: I gotta find the photo, the duplicate photo.
[35:06] Speaker 2: Find you're on there.
[35:07] Speaker 1: But there is a an app that might be already
[35:11] Speaker 1: be on your phone, but it's called Files by Google.
[35:14] Speaker 1: And if you open up Files by Google or download
[35:16] Speaker 1: it again no ads, no in app purchases, you can
[35:20] Speaker 1: go in the upper left hand corner. They have a
[35:21] Speaker 1: feature called clean and that will show you your large files,
[35:25] Speaker 1: your unused apps, your your downloaded files. And that's an
[35:29] Speaker 1: easy way again to reclaim some storage on your Android phone.
[35:33] Speaker 1: If you're using Google Photos on your Android, literally just
[35:36] Speaker 1: press and hold on the Google Photos app and there's
[35:39] Speaker 1: an option that says free up space. And what that
[35:41] Speaker 1: does is it deletes all the photos off your phone,
[35:45] Speaker 1: but it keeps them in the clouds. You still have
[35:47] Speaker 1: a copy, but your phone storage is freed up. Anyway,
[35:50] Speaker 1: I've linked this all up on the website. Go to
[35:52] Speaker 1: Richontech dot TV eighty to eight rich one oh one
[35:56] Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.
[35:59] Speaker 2: Coming up.
[35:59] Speaker 1: We're gonna talk I phone seventeen. I'll tell you the
[36:01] Speaker 1: date it's going to be launched.
[36:06] Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich on Tech.
[36:07] Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology on
[36:10] Speaker 1: this labor day weekend. Yeah, we're working. I've worked a
[36:15] Speaker 1: lot of labor days in my life. And you know,
[36:17] Speaker 1: when I was in small market TV news back in
[36:20] Speaker 1: like Yakima, Washington, Shreveport, Louisiana, I would I would go
[36:26] Speaker 1: out and just like talk to people working on labor
[36:28] Speaker 1: day and it was just a fun story. You know,
[36:30] Speaker 1: when you're in these small markets for TV, you have
[36:33] Speaker 1: to come up with stories. They call it enterprising stories,
[36:36] Speaker 1: you know, enterprise reporter because nobody sits there and says
[36:39] Speaker 1: you know in big markets like New York, La, Chicago,
[36:42] Speaker 1: that you come in and they tell you what to
[36:44] Speaker 1: do this all right, you go there, you go there,
[36:45] Speaker 1: you go to that murder, you go to that whatever,
[36:49] Speaker 1: and it's all signed because there's so many big stories happening.
[36:53] Speaker 1: But when you're in a small market, there's nothing happening
[36:56] Speaker 1: that's you know, there's not a lot of big things happening.
[36:59] Speaker 1: And so they come in and they Okay, what do
[37:00] Speaker 1: you have for us today? And you got to come
[37:02] Speaker 1: in prepared. So I always came in. I was much
[37:04] Speaker 1: more of a creative reporter, and I still am. I mean,
[37:07] Speaker 1: obviously I cover technology now, but you know, I was
[37:09] Speaker 1: a much more creative I started out doing all the
[37:13] Speaker 1: dooming gloom stuff, you know, the wildfires, the murders, the arrests, whatever.
[37:18] Speaker 1: Like I was the guy at the top of the
[37:19] Speaker 1: six o'clock news for a while, and then I was like, eh,
[37:22] Speaker 1: I kind of like doing stuff, like a little bit
[37:24] Speaker 1: more creative. And so they asked me one day, They're like, hey,
[37:27] Speaker 1: our consumer reporter left. You want to do consumer reporting?
[37:31] Speaker 1: I said, no way. I said I'm not going to
[37:33] Speaker 1: be in the end of the newscast. And they said, well,
[37:36] Speaker 1: you get paid a little bit more money and you
[37:38] Speaker 1: get to be creative. And I was like, I'm in done.
[37:41] Speaker 1: And yeah, it's been like that ever since. I mean
[37:43] Speaker 1: I always knew I wanted to be some sort of
[37:46] Speaker 1: business or technology reporter or correspondent, and so yeah, that's
[37:50] Speaker 1: that's kind of what I always wanted to do. Anyway,
[37:53] Speaker 1: Why did I even talk about that?
[37:54] Speaker 7: What was like?
[37:55] Speaker 1: Oh the Labor Day stuff? That's right Coming up this hour,
[37:59] Speaker 1: We've got Jefferson Graham.
[38:01] Speaker 2: He hosts the.
[38:01] Speaker 1: Photo Walks travel photography show. He's going to talk about
[38:04] Speaker 1: all the things he's learned in his travels. A lot
[38:07] Speaker 1: of you going to the website right now for all
[38:09] Speaker 1: of this stuff. I mentioned about the duplicate photos and
[38:13] Speaker 1: the clearing out storage. That is at Richontech dot tv.
[38:17] Speaker 1: And I don't think I ever mentioned my Facebook page
[38:19] Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash rich on Tech. You can go
[38:21] Speaker 1: there if you're still on Facebook, I often post there.
[38:25] Speaker 2: A lot of you are.
[38:25] Speaker 1: I mean, Facebook's still very, very popular and Instagram at
[38:29] Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Coming up this hour, we're also going
[38:32] Speaker 1: to talk about the Apple event happening September ninth, So
[38:37] Speaker 1: that's exciting. Let's see, I've got my mini bar fiasco
[38:41] Speaker 1: at the hotel I stayed at in Vegas. I'll tell
[38:44] Speaker 1: you what happened there, And let's go to Darren. Darren
[38:48] Speaker 1: has something to talk about in Canyon Country about one
[38:51] Speaker 1: of the earlier callers.
[38:54] Speaker 2: Darren.
[38:54] Speaker 7: You there, Yeah, Hi there, Hey, can you right?
[38:59] Speaker 3: Yeah?
[39:00] Speaker 8: Okay, great, Hi, thank you for taking my call.
[39:03] Speaker 2: Sure, what's up?
[39:05] Speaker 8: No, it was uh, I was listening to the gentleman
[39:08] Speaker 8: I think he called, like you know, full phone calls
[39:10] Speaker 8: go or something like that, and he was talking about
[39:13] Speaker 8: the android that got you know, quote unquote hacked. Yeah,
[39:18] Speaker 8: And it was just, you know, I listened to your
[39:21] Speaker 8: show and stuff and it's kind of strange. I just
[39:24] Speaker 8: all of a sudden, I'm like, no way, but yeah,
[39:27] Speaker 8: you know what, the same exact thing happened to me,
[39:29] Speaker 8: and it took me a while to figure it out,
[39:32] Speaker 8: but yeah, it's doable.
[39:35] Speaker 2: What happened for me?
[39:36] Speaker 8: I just I kind of wanted to just bring.
[39:40] Speaker 2: Well, what what happened? What?
[39:41] Speaker 1: What tip can you share for the listeners? Okay, well
[39:47] Speaker 1: I think he got hacked. I think I think they
[39:49] Speaker 1: hacked him right off.
[39:50] Speaker 2: The line there. I don't know what happened. That was weird.
[39:52] Speaker 9: Uh.
[39:53] Speaker 2: Let's go to Ron in Marina del Rey. Ron you're
[39:57] Speaker 2: on with Rich. Yeah, Hey, could you hear me, I
[40:00] Speaker 2: can hear you too, Yes, okay.
[40:03] Speaker 10: Great, listen, I have a question for you. And I
[40:06] Speaker 10: know you just got through giving us your information about
[40:08] Speaker 10: the phone photos, but what about what about putting out
[40:13] Speaker 10: my photos on my MacBook Pro? That is one of
[40:17] Speaker 10: my real porns on my side, trying to you know,
[40:19] Speaker 10: keep up with you know, duplicates and triple kiss. I mean,
[40:22] Speaker 10: there's a lot of mouth, there's a lot of different
[40:24] Speaker 10: maps that you can use, but you gotta be very
[40:25] Speaker 10: tripled with them. But you have a better, you know,
[40:29] Speaker 10: a better mousetrap, so to speak, for my my photos
[40:33] Speaker 10: on that.
[40:33] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[40:34] Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is this is everyone's issue, and
[40:36] Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I went, I was at a Google
[40:38] Speaker 1: event probably it had to be eight years ago at
[40:41] Speaker 1: this point. It was when Google Photos was like just
[40:44] Speaker 1: coming up on the scene, and I talked to the
[40:45] Speaker 1: guy who invented it. Same was David. I mean, he's
[40:48] Speaker 1: not there anymore, but he you know, he was there
[40:50] Speaker 1: and he was like, I was like, dude, you did
[40:52] Speaker 1: the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life with
[40:53] Speaker 1: this Google Photos. But why do you not have a
[40:57] Speaker 1: system to get rid of duplicates or similar photos?
[41:01] Speaker 2: Or anything like that. And I think I've come up
[41:03] Speaker 2: with the answer.
[41:04] Speaker 1: They actually don't want you like Google and Apple, why
[41:07] Speaker 1: would they want to build in a way to get
[41:09] Speaker 1: rid of your duplicates. They don't want to because then
[41:11] Speaker 1: you're using less cloud storage. So I totally understand that,
[41:14] Speaker 1: like why they're not it's a it's not a priority
[41:18] Speaker 1: and so, but it's frustrating because it's like, come on,
[41:21] Speaker 1: we have AI now, there should be no reason. And
[41:24] Speaker 1: I think that these AI apps are going to come
[41:26] Speaker 1: down the line that'll make this a lot easier. But
[41:28] Speaker 1: I will tell you the ones that I've tested that
[41:30] Speaker 1: I think work pretty well. I don't know if there's
[41:33] Speaker 1: a free version of this, but there's a website an
[41:37] Speaker 1: app that I've tried called Duplicate Duplicate Photos Fixer Duplicate
[41:43] Speaker 1: Photos Fixer, and it's available for the Mac, for Windows,
[41:46] Speaker 1: for Android, and iOS. And you know, they say they
[41:50] Speaker 1: use an algorithm. I don't know if they use AI
[41:52] Speaker 1: right now, they're just saying algorithm. But it will find
[41:55] Speaker 1: and scan those photos and identify the duplicates. So that's
[41:58] Speaker 1: a that's number one you can use that. Let's see
[42:01] Speaker 1: how much is it on the Mac?
[42:03] Speaker 4: Store.
[42:03] Speaker 1: It's got it's on the app store ninety nine, so
[42:06] Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's not a terrible price to pay.
[42:10] Speaker 10: No, I have seen that one also, Yeah, but go ahead.
[42:12] Speaker 7: What's the second one?
[42:13] Speaker 1: The other the other one that I've used, Now, this
[42:15] Speaker 1: is much more files and it.
[42:18] Speaker 2: Will work with your photos. But this is from MacPaw.
[42:21] Speaker 1: It's called Gemini too, and this is just if you
[42:24] Speaker 1: want to find duplicate files on your computer in general,
[42:27] Speaker 1: including photos. You can use this to scan, to scan
[42:32] Speaker 1: and get rid of those. And it does work with
[42:33] Speaker 1: your you know, your photos app and all that stuff.
[42:36] Speaker 1: But that's a great one. It's been around for a
[42:37] Speaker 1: long time. And that one, let's see how much that is. Oh,
[42:43] Speaker 1: they want to do like a monthly planed, so there's
[42:44] Speaker 1: probably a way of just buy a one time forty
[42:47] Speaker 1: five bucks.
[42:48] Speaker 8: I don't want to do a monthly time. Someone doing
[42:49] Speaker 8: one time deal, So what's the cost of that?
[42:51] Speaker 10: Or you wouldn't probably know about that.
[42:53] Speaker 11: I'm no longer and it.
[42:54] Speaker 1: Out No, I just looked. It's forty five dollars for that.
[42:56] Speaker 1: But they do have a free download so you can
[42:58] Speaker 1: scan and see how it works for free. Okay, I'm
[43:01] Speaker 1: looking let me see, those are the ones that I've tested.
[43:05] Speaker 1: The other one, let me see, I had one more,
[43:09] Speaker 1: Did I have it?
[43:10] Speaker 2: Nope? Those were the three that I liked.
[43:11] Speaker 1: So yeah, those are the three that I like, or
[43:14] Speaker 1: the two that I like, plus the files by Google. Now,
[43:17] Speaker 1: if you're on you said you're on iCloud.
[43:20] Speaker 8: Un not like Cloud.
[43:21] Speaker 10: Yes, cob, I gotta pay money for the iCloud storage correct.
[43:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that I mean those are those are
[43:26] Speaker 1: the two that I'd recommend for that I was gonna
[43:28] Speaker 1: say for Android. If you're using or if you're using
[43:30] Speaker 1: Google Cloud, Google does have a few tools to help
[43:35] Speaker 1: you clear up space in their cloud. If you go
[43:37] Speaker 1: to one dot Google dot com, you'll see it'll have
[43:41] Speaker 1: a thing that says a little a little tile that
[43:42] Speaker 1: says clean up space. And I've got five hundred and
[43:45] Speaker 1: ninety seven gigabytes I can clean up according to them.
[43:48] Speaker 2: And this will show you.
[43:49] Speaker 1: Uh and by the way, this is not necessarily ron
[43:52] Speaker 1: for you, but just for other people that are looking
[43:54] Speaker 1: for this, but it'll show me large photos and videos,
[43:58] Speaker 1: large drive files in my Google Drive, emails with large attachments.
[44:02] Speaker 1: I've got seven gigs of that, and then emails and
[44:05] Speaker 1: trash and it will help you clear out all that storage.
[44:07] Speaker 2: So they're not going to do this similar thing. Yeah,
[44:11] Speaker 2: that's one doctor will do in come.
[44:13] Speaker 10: One more thing and that is about emails. Another phone
[44:16] Speaker 10: on my side. Any type of suggestion sport for clearing
[44:19] Speaker 10: out email. I know you can go ahead and you
[44:21] Speaker 10: know a train and this type of thing. But is
[44:24] Speaker 10: there any any quick thing to.
[44:25] Speaker 8: Go on and just hit the people that you don't
[44:27] Speaker 8: want coming on email and get rid of them or no?
[44:30] Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you what I do.
[44:32] Speaker 1: So when I get an email that I want to
[44:35] Speaker 1: get rid of all the other similar emails, I just
[44:37] Speaker 1: take that and I make a filter with that email
[44:39] Speaker 1: address real quick, and then I just delete all those emails.
[44:41] Speaker 1: So if I'm trying to clear stuff out now, if
[44:44] Speaker 1: you're using Gmail, you know you can sort by the
[44:46] Speaker 1: large attachments. I'm sure the other email programs do that
[44:49] Speaker 1: as well, but you know there is no Here's the
[44:52] Speaker 1: thing when you're talking about when you're talking about personal data,
[44:56] Speaker 1: you don't necessarily want something that just blasts through everything
[44:59] Speaker 1: and elite stuff very quickly because it's your data. So
[45:04] Speaker 1: if you're talking about email, how would it know what
[45:07] Speaker 1: emails that are important to you versus not important. There's
[45:10] Speaker 1: really no way of doing that. You have to go
[45:12] Speaker 1: through them and see. Now you can say, like, okay,
[45:15] Speaker 1: all emails from my old boss, I don't need anymore,
[45:17] Speaker 1: and you can delete all those and maybe they had
[45:18] Speaker 1: attachments or all emails with a video attachment or a
[45:21] Speaker 1: photo attachment, I don't need anymore because I've saved those
[45:24] Speaker 1: somewhere else you can go through and do that. But really,
[45:27] Speaker 1: I think AI is going to help us with some
[45:29] Speaker 1: of this stuff in the future, but right now it's
[45:33] Speaker 1: just all over the place. There's these systems that get
[45:35] Speaker 1: access to your photos and videos and things like that
[45:38] Speaker 1: you have to be very careful with because you don't
[45:40] Speaker 1: want to make changes and delete stuff and never be
[45:42] Speaker 1: able to get those back. So a great question, Ron,
[45:45] Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in today. From Marina del Rey. Again,
[45:48] Speaker 1: I'll put all that on the website rich on tech
[45:49] Speaker 1: dot tv, including the one dot Google dot com. If
[45:53] Speaker 1: you have not visited that on your desktop, just go there.
[45:56] Speaker 1: If you're using Google Cloud storage, you have to go
[45:59] Speaker 1: there and just check out the options to clean up
[46:02] Speaker 1: your storage because and they have one too on the
[46:06] Speaker 1: inside Google Photos. If you go inside Google Photos and
[46:09] Speaker 1: tap on your profile picture in the upper right hand corner.
[46:13] Speaker 2: There is.
[46:15] Speaker 1: A setting if I go to let's see, I gotta
[46:17] Speaker 1: find where this is back up. They move it all
[46:20] Speaker 1: the time. I think it's let's see is it photo settings?
[46:22] Speaker 2: Now? Okay? Great?
[46:24] Speaker 1: Show rich just looking through things, and there is an
[46:28] Speaker 1: option where they show you like your blurry photos and
[46:30] Speaker 1: things like that, which is kind of cool.
[46:32] Speaker 2: I'll fid oh here it is managed storage. There it is,
[46:34] Speaker 2: so it'll show.
[46:36] Speaker 1: You your large photos and videos, other apps, screenshots, and
[46:39] Speaker 1: then blurry photos is my favorite. You just go through
[46:42] Speaker 1: there and you can see all the blurry photos in
[46:43] Speaker 1: your collection, and you can help you delete those as well.
[46:47] Speaker 1: So anyway, look, this is an ongoing issue. The tech
[46:50] Speaker 1: companies would rather you just not deal with this stuff
[46:53] Speaker 1: and just keep buying more cloud storage, which is what
[46:55] Speaker 1: a lot of people end up doing. And so it's
[46:57] Speaker 1: like anything else, you know, instead of cleaning up out
[47:00] Speaker 1: your house, what do you do everything?
[47:02] Speaker 2: They build.
[47:02] Speaker 1: Every single building in my neighborhood that it used to
[47:06] Speaker 1: be something else is now a storage facility like these
[47:09] Speaker 1: you know these uh, these places where you just bring
[47:11] Speaker 1: your junk and you storm like I have so much
[47:13] Speaker 1: stuff in my garage I haven't touched in years. But
[47:16] Speaker 1: instead of cleaning out my garage, what do you think
[47:19] Speaker 1: eventually I would do. I'll be like, oh, let me
[47:20] Speaker 1: just move this to a facility so I don't have
[47:22] Speaker 1: to think about it. Once that stuff goes to that facility,
[47:25] Speaker 1: You're never looking at it again.
[47:26] Speaker 2: Let's be real here. I mean, it's just the way
[47:28] Speaker 2: this stuff happens, all right.
[47:30] Speaker 1: Eighty to eight rich one oh one eighty eight seven
[47:33] Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one, the website, richon
[47:37] Speaker 1: tech dot TV. Coming up, I will tell you about
[47:40] Speaker 1: the the Apple event what we can expect on September ninth.
[47:46] Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Okay, we got Darren
[47:49] Speaker 1: back in Canyon Country. Darren, you were saying before you
[47:53] Speaker 1: got cut off.
[47:53] Speaker 2: That you had some shoes.
[47:56] Speaker 8: So again, I've been on hold for a little bit now,
[47:58] Speaker 8: and I'm telling you right now that they're still in
[48:01] Speaker 8: control with my phone. So if I get cut off,
[48:03] Speaker 8: you know, I'm telling the truth. I don't through the
[48:07] Speaker 8: whole thing. I'm not extremely tech savvy. I love your show, though,
[48:12] Speaker 8: but I went through the same exact thing, and the
[48:15] Speaker 8: thing with like Android, the open source software a lot
[48:20] Speaker 8: of that stuff. The hacker, I mean, I don't even
[48:22] Speaker 8: call it hacking at this point. They there's special circumstances.
[48:27] Speaker 8: In this case, it was a neighbor they have. It's
[48:30] Speaker 8: a proximity thing. You need to be nearby, but they
[48:33] Speaker 8: do need at one point, they need that access. So
[48:38] Speaker 8: any chance you click on something accidentally, bad bad bat,
[48:41] Speaker 8: they can get in there. But after they do get in,
[48:45] Speaker 8: they can completely control your device from all these and
[48:50] Speaker 8: you just got to know what apps to look for.
[48:52] Speaker 8: That's the problem because a lot of them are just
[48:55] Speaker 8: you know, utility apps that you would go, oh, well
[48:58] Speaker 8: that belongs to it, because I need this to do
[49:00] Speaker 8: my Bluetooth and that. But if they're at a level
[49:05] Speaker 8: of you know, where they know what they're doing, and
[49:07] Speaker 8: they're kind of this guy's posing. I don't know if
[49:10] Speaker 8: it's legit or not, but he's posing as a developer
[49:14] Speaker 8: at least I've kind of rabbit holed a few times
[49:17] Speaker 8: and followed him all the way back down to you know,
[49:21] Speaker 8: all the code websites and stuff like that, and you know,
[49:25] Speaker 8: if he knows basic code, and he knows basic you know,
[49:29] Speaker 8: his way around it. Once did do get in? Now
[49:33] Speaker 8: that is true. They need an access point. But once
[49:35] Speaker 8: they do get in, you can factory reach it. You
[49:38] Speaker 8: can do anything you want. All he has to do
[49:41] Speaker 8: is rewrite it where factory reset it. It just resets
[49:45] Speaker 8: it back to his install. But yeah, it's fust I
[49:50] Speaker 8: know how frustrating it is student because I was going
[49:52] Speaker 8: through it. I'm like, I don't know what's going on,
[49:54] Speaker 8: and uh, you know, I try to show people and
[49:56] Speaker 8: they'd be like, I don't know, man, you're you sure?
[49:59] Speaker 5: You all right?
[50:00] Speaker 8: You know, it's like nothing's going on. So they it's
[50:03] Speaker 8: not like obvious. You know, they're not going to be
[50:05] Speaker 8: sitting there right in front of you doing it.
[50:08] Speaker 2: You know that makes sense? What is there any app
[50:10] Speaker 2: you can share that you know that under you?
[50:13] Speaker 8: At this point, I've been through. This has gone on
[50:17] Speaker 8: six months for me and it's still going on. But
[50:20] Speaker 8: it's where I live, so I have to leave. That's
[50:22] Speaker 8: where it's what it's come down to. They've basically gotten
[50:25] Speaker 8: everything else they could at him. But that's the advice
[50:29] Speaker 8: I would give to him is check his balluet connections
[50:33] Speaker 8: seeing if he could catch him any.
[50:35] Speaker 11: Weird, strange connections.
[50:37] Speaker 8: That don't belong to because how he's doing is that
[50:40] Speaker 8: he's using the mini utility mini controller and he's going
[50:46] Speaker 8: into uh us E. He's remotely accessing my USP port
[50:53] Speaker 8: and he's essentially after that. I mean the shell.
[50:59] Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're getting that into the weed here, Darren.
[51:02] Speaker 1: I think for some of our for some of our listeners,
[51:04] Speaker 1: I do, I really appreciate the uh uh sharing, but
[51:07] Speaker 1: I I, you know, and I have to be the
[51:09] Speaker 1: voice of reason here. I think I think that, you know,
[51:12] Speaker 1: for the average person, I don't think this is something
[51:14] Speaker 1: you need to you know, I don't think that most
[51:18] Speaker 1: phones are being remotely controlled.
[51:19] Speaker 7: Now.
[51:20] Speaker 1: Are there ways of doing it, of course, and I
[51:23] Speaker 1: think you should be aware that the number one sort
[51:26] Speaker 1: of attack vector is really a text message.
[51:31] Speaker 2: Through and through.
[51:32] Speaker 1: This is how we've seen people get control of an
[51:36] Speaker 1: iPhone or an Android. It all comes down to text
[51:38] Speaker 1: messages and something that is exploited. And this is why
[51:43] Speaker 1: I talk about making sure you update your software, because
[51:47] Speaker 1: here's what happens. And this is why when we hear
[51:49] Speaker 1: about these manufacturers nowadays saying, yeah, we're gonna give you
[51:52] Speaker 1: seven years of security updates, why is that so important?
[51:56] Speaker 1: Because when your phone is not getting those security updates
[51:59] Speaker 1: or your computer or your tablet, your laptop, whatever it is.
[52:03] Speaker 1: If they're not getting security updates, there are basically just
[52:06] Speaker 1: imagine open holes to your device that hackers can get into,
[52:12] Speaker 1: or anyone that's nefarious that wants to do something. They
[52:16] Speaker 1: use what's called an exploit, a known issue or opening
[52:21] Speaker 1: on your device that they can get in through. And
[52:24] Speaker 1: what do they do with security updates? They patch these holes.
[52:27] Speaker 1: That's why they call them patches. They patch these issues
[52:31] Speaker 1: that are all inside every piece of software. And we're
[52:34] Speaker 1: just humans coding software, at least for now. I mean
[52:37] Speaker 1: AI is doing that too, But there's always mistakes and
[52:40] Speaker 1: there's always something someone didn't think about, and so we
[52:44] Speaker 1: as the final line of defense, have to look at
[52:47] Speaker 1: what we are clicking, what we are downloading, what we
[52:50] Speaker 1: are installing. It happens every single day. People install malware
[52:54] Speaker 1: on their computers on their phones, you know, and it's
[52:58] Speaker 1: less of a problem on the iPhone just due to
[53:00] Speaker 1: the architecture of that operating system. But this is why
[53:04] Speaker 1: you always hear about so many issues with Windows computers
[53:06] Speaker 1: because you can install things on there very easily. And
[53:11] Speaker 1: the way Apple does stuff on the iPhone is it's
[53:12] Speaker 1: all locked down, and Android sounding like they're going to
[53:15] Speaker 1: start locking it down more too in the future, so
[53:18] Speaker 1: that not just anything could be installed easily. But you know,
[53:21] Speaker 1: as a as a regular person that's listening to me
[53:24] Speaker 1: right now, I would say, you know, go through your
[53:26] Speaker 1: list of apps, get rid of anything you don't need,
[53:29] Speaker 1: update your software, update your apps, update your operating system software.
[53:34] Speaker 1: And if your phone is no longer getting updates, you're
[53:37] Speaker 1: at risk. Bottom line, you're at risk in many, many ways.
[53:40] Speaker 1: I would do any banking. I wanna do anything private
[53:43] Speaker 1: or personal on there. Eighty to eight rich one oh
[53:45] Speaker 1: one eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.
[53:48] Speaker 1: Coming up, we're going to talk to Jefferson Graham. But
[53:50] Speaker 1: all things photography with your smartphone. Welcome back to rich
[53:56] Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology,
[53:59] Speaker 1: triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven
[54:03] Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one the website richon
[54:06] Speaker 1: Tech dot TV. Hope you're having a fantastic Labor Day weekend.
[54:11] Speaker 1: Hope you're doing something nice with friends and family. We've
[54:14] Speaker 1: got apples big event happening on September ninth. It's called
[54:18] Speaker 1: Awe Dropping that's a Tuesday. It's gonna be in Cooper Tino.
[54:21] Speaker 1: iPhone seventeen come in your way. A bunch of new models,
[54:26] Speaker 1: the Standard, the Pro, the Promax, and then this ultra
[54:29] Speaker 1: thinnew iPhone seventeen Air.
[54:31] Speaker 2: Supposedly is going to come out.
[54:33] Speaker 1: That's going to replace the Plus model, and they're using
[54:36] Speaker 1: Apple's new modem for this, the C one modem which
[54:39] Speaker 1: is in the sixteen E. And the battery life on
[54:42] Speaker 1: that is incredible. So that's the big thing to watch
[54:44] Speaker 1: with this thin model is is the battery life going
[54:47] Speaker 1: to be up to par That's the main thing before
[54:49] Speaker 1: you buy one. The new phones getting supposedly redesigned camera module,
[54:55] Speaker 1: new processors, new colors, all the Apple Watch is going
[54:58] Speaker 1: to get a refresh apparently Series eleven, Ultra three, the
[55:02] Speaker 1: se three, and then we're waiting for surprises as well.
[55:07] Speaker 1: Release date for iOS twenty six, the final version of
[55:10] Speaker 1: that will be announced as well. And yes, I will
[55:13] Speaker 1: be there, looking forward to it. Always fun to go
[55:15] Speaker 1: up to Coopertino and someone I will see there is
[55:20] Speaker 1: Jefferson Graham. He is the host of Photo Walks TV
[55:23] Speaker 1: on the Scripts Channel. Jefferson, Welcome to the show.
[55:27] Speaker 4: Great to be here again.
[55:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a regular, So tell me how is the
[55:31] Speaker 2: show going.
[55:33] Speaker 4: Show's going great. We're having a marathon for Labor Day,
[55:35] Speaker 4: oh on one of those classic TV marathons from eight
[55:38] Speaker 4: in the morning till eleven thirty that's Eastern time. We're
[55:42] Speaker 4: going to Hebrew City, and we got some Root sixty
[55:46] Speaker 4: six in there, some Cleveland, some Detroit, and the Photo
[55:50] Speaker 4: Walks Awards, which is actually going to be running tomorrow
[55:53] Speaker 4: because answering the question that so many people have asked me, Hey,
[55:56] Speaker 4: you know you've been all over the place where it's
[55:58] Speaker 4: the greatest place you went to, the one greatest place
[56:00] Speaker 4: you went through, which is really impossible to think to answer,
[56:03] Speaker 4: and so I came up with thirty categories best small town,
[56:06] Speaker 4: best drive, best back road, best food, best dessert, YadA, YadA, YadA.
[56:11] Speaker 4: It's all there in the episode. So that one's actually
[56:13] Speaker 4: running tomorrow Sunday at ten am Eastern and then it
[56:17] Speaker 4: will be replaying in the marathon.
[56:20] Speaker 1: Okay, so you got the marathon on scripts, check your
[56:22] Speaker 1: check your local listings for that. And so you're doing
[56:26] Speaker 1: the show, what have you found along the way, like,
[56:29] Speaker 1: what are your what are some of your you had
[56:31] Speaker 1: this tip you did in your newsletter the other a
[56:32] Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. This find my situation. So you
[56:37] Speaker 1: lost your or your wife lost her phone and you're
[56:40] Speaker 1: trying to locate it, but you had some issues.
[56:43] Speaker 2: Tell me about that.
[56:44] Speaker 4: It's pretty simple. You have this wonderful thing. It's called
[56:47] Speaker 4: find my. You lose your phone, you just click it,
[56:49] Speaker 4: click on it, and you find it and they have
[56:51] Speaker 4: a map and they have a tone, and it's wonderful.
[56:53] Speaker 4: But what happens when the wife loses her phone and
[56:56] Speaker 4: you try to use fine my on your phone to
[56:59] Speaker 4: find her phone and you're in another country. Doesn't work
[57:03] Speaker 4: so well because they asked for two factor authentication and
[57:06] Speaker 4: you can't do factor on a phone that doesn't get
[57:08] Speaker 4: the text. So I was on my phone going to
[57:13] Speaker 4: iCloud dot com to get to find my. It turns
[57:16] Speaker 4: out if I'd gone to iCloud dot com slash find,
[57:21] Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gotten hit with the two factor authentication.
[57:24] Speaker 2: Now how'd you figure that out?
[57:26] Speaker 4: A lot of trial and error, a lot of chat GPT,
[57:29] Speaker 4: a lot of talking to Apple on the phone, And
[57:33] Speaker 4: that's what I came up with. Also, you all all
[57:36] Speaker 4: of us spouses and partners and everything. Need to put
[57:41] Speaker 4: our phone numbers in the other person's find my to
[57:45] Speaker 4: be accepted in a trusted person so that I could
[57:51] Speaker 4: get her texts.
[57:52] Speaker 1: Wait wait, oh, I see what you're saying, so put
[57:55] Speaker 1: those in there as well.
[57:56] Speaker 2: So okay.
[57:56] Speaker 1: The website is iCloud dot com slash find, and then
[58:01] Speaker 1: the other one for Google. They also have a similar one,
[58:05] Speaker 1: so you can go to Google dot com. I'm trying
[58:10] Speaker 1: to find the shortcut. I know there's a Google dot
[58:12] Speaker 1: com or is it Android dot com slash find. There's
[58:15] Speaker 1: a way to do this on Google as well. But
[58:16] Speaker 1: you okay, I'll let you talk while I search for this.
[58:19] Speaker 1: So okay, So you had that tip, so that's a
[58:22] Speaker 1: good one that was in your newsletter. And then the
[58:24] Speaker 1: other thing is the iPhone seventeen. I just talked about it.
[58:28] Speaker 3: Yes, you did.
[58:29] Speaker 1: What I mean?
[58:29] Speaker 2: What can they improve on this camera? If anything? Okay,
[58:33] Speaker 2: you got your How about ten? I got ten features?
[58:37] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Okay.
[58:38] Speaker 4: Tim Cook does not listen to me, but if he was,
[58:43] Speaker 4: the first thing is we need to fix the telephoto lens,
[58:47] Speaker 4: the five X, which is is very on and off.
[58:52] Speaker 4: Sometimes it's sharp, sometimes it's awful. Sometimes it's just absolutely terrible,
[58:57] Speaker 4: and that could be in good light or bed light.
[58:59] Speaker 4: I don't know why it is not consistent.
[59:01] Speaker 1: It's where sometimes it doesn't snap into the five X
[59:04] Speaker 1: it does like optical or something weird.
[59:05] Speaker 2: I've seen it.
[59:07] Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and sometimes it's sharp, sometimes it's not. So
[59:10] Speaker 4: I want to fix that. The second thing, I want
[59:13] Speaker 4: to remove that horrible digital zoom wheel that pops up
[59:18] Speaker 4: that is not wanted.
[59:20] Speaker 2: I hate that.
[59:21] Speaker 4: I want to get rid of that. We want to
[59:23] Speaker 4: ditch the camera control button, which was introduced last year,
[59:26] Speaker 4: and it's just a total waste.
[59:27] Speaker 1: Like what, I love the camera control button? What are
[59:30] Speaker 1: you talking about? It's the only way I've actually it
[59:33] Speaker 1: gave me a whole other icon on my home screen.
[59:35] Speaker 1: Freed it up because I only use that to launch
[59:38] Speaker 1: the camera. I'll tell you what I don't like about it.
[59:40] Speaker 1: When you launch it, if you run your hand over it,
[59:44] Speaker 1: it changes the ev what is that the exposure? Yeah,
[59:48] Speaker 1: and if you do that, there's no way to like
[59:49] Speaker 1: quickly reset it that I can tell. And so all
[59:52] Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm snapping a whole bunch of pictures
[59:54] Speaker 1: at like negative point zero three or something, and I'm like,
[59:56] Speaker 1: wait a second, what's going on here anyway?
[59:58] Speaker 2: But I love that thing. Okay, I'm glad you do.
[1:00:01] Speaker 4: I want to fix the time lapse setting, which is
[1:00:07] Speaker 4: all automatic that if you I don't know if most
[1:00:10] Speaker 4: people realize this, but if you let the time lapse
[1:00:13] Speaker 4: go for an hour, two hours, three hours, four hours,
[1:00:16] Speaker 4: one day, two days, three days a week, I've done it.
[1:00:19] Speaker 4: All the clip will be thirty seconds.
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: I only know that because you you mentioned it in
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: your newsletter. Yeah, you love your time lapses.
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: So what does it?
[1:00:27] Speaker 1: What Samsung does unlimited time laps or what? There must
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: be a limit somewhere.
[1:00:30] Speaker 4: Samsung and Google have unlimited. And then if you use
[1:00:33] Speaker 4: the black Magic app, that's your way around it and
[1:00:35] Speaker 4: you can set it there. Okay, and the blue which
[1:00:38] Speaker 4: is free black Manchic camera. Just fix the distortion on
[1:00:42] Speaker 4: the point five which can be distorted.
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: As you know.
[1:00:48] Speaker 4: We want to fix the low light. They've been hearing
[1:00:50] Speaker 4: about this for so many years. Oh, the camera's way
[1:00:53] Speaker 4: better and low light it is not, it is not,
[1:00:57] Speaker 4: you know, and it's it's great in daytime. It's great
[1:01:01] Speaker 4: always in daytime. And my recommendation about low light is
[1:01:04] Speaker 4: to use the one x lens that is the sharpest
[1:01:08] Speaker 4: and that is the best in low light. The point
[1:01:10] Speaker 4: five not so good, and the fight X not so good.
[1:01:13] Speaker 4: Lens flair. We've all had the problem with shooting a sunset.
[1:01:17] Speaker 4: We get a green dot in our sunset shots. Want
[1:01:20] Speaker 4: to fix that or tell me a way that I
[1:01:22] Speaker 4: can get a lens hood for the iPhone?
[1:01:24] Speaker 2: Oh, that is the worst.
[1:01:26] Speaker 1: Anytime you shoot anything with lights, like a concert, football game, whatever, stadium,
[1:01:31] Speaker 1: it's just like there's a million other lights all over.
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: It's like some sort of refracting thing that's going on
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: in the iPhone.
[1:01:36] Speaker 4: Yeah, so number eight, the flash, I don't think you
[1:01:40] Speaker 4: could ever fix, but maybe find a way that I
[1:01:42] Speaker 4: could use an external flash something, because the flash is terrible.
[1:01:46] Speaker 4: Makes you look like you're lit by a blowtorch.
[1:01:50] Speaker 1: You say, when you say external flash, all I get
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: in my head is the nineteen thirties person with like
[1:01:56] Speaker 1: the flash that they hold up. They're like the one
[1:01:59] Speaker 1: that literally made like smoke when you press it. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[1:02:03] Speaker 1: you can see what I use. But that's not happening.
[1:02:05] Speaker 1: They're they're Jefferson. They're not gonna they're not gonna put
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: an external flash for the other phone.
[1:02:10] Speaker 4: Connect to an external flash. You'll be the option to
[1:02:13] Speaker 4: do that. There's one external flash that exists. It's made
[1:02:17] Speaker 4: by pro Photo itself worth one thousand dollars.
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: No one's doing that.
[1:02:21] Speaker 4: Okay, UM, make night mode understandable to the average person.
[1:02:27] Speaker 4: Night mode is is what goes on when it's dark,
[1:02:32] Speaker 4: totally automatic. You can't wish it on. It only comes
[1:02:36] Speaker 4: on when it wants to, and the common person does
[1:02:40] Speaker 4: not cannot figure it out. Make it easier to understand
[1:02:44] Speaker 4: because nightmode is actually really good. The last one can
[1:02:49] Speaker 4: I don't think it's fixable. You know, to bounce when
[1:02:52] Speaker 4: when we walk down the street and we're shooting at
[1:02:54] Speaker 4: the same time, no matter what we're bouncing. You could
[1:02:57] Speaker 4: use a gimbal, you could use it this, you could
[1:02:59] Speaker 4: use it that. But we're always bouncing. Is there a
[1:03:00] Speaker 4: way to fix the balance, because I'd love to see it.
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: By the way, I found the website for the Android
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: side of things. It's Android dot com slash find. So
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: write these down if you have an iPhone iCloud dot
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: com slash find, Android dot com slash find, and you
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: can do that. You can also say hey, Google, find
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: my phone, and I believe it will locate it as well.
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: Now I've just did that.
[1:03:24] Speaker 4: But but but put your phone numbers into the settings
[1:03:28] Speaker 4: of the other person, like you know, you guys, you've
[1:03:31] Speaker 4: got three people at three other people at home. Get
[1:03:33] Speaker 4: your number in there so you can get the text
[1:03:35] Speaker 4: message just as well.
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: In the settings where So explain where do I put
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: that thank you emergency settings?
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: Uh?
[1:03:42] Speaker 4: No, You go to settings and then your name is
[1:03:46] Speaker 4: at the top of the screen, okay, and you click
[1:03:49] Speaker 4: there and I believe it's signing and sign and security okay.
[1:03:54] Speaker 4: And with there you can add an email or phone number.
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: Oh I see what you're saying. Oh, I see, got it?
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: Add email phone, Oh I see, so that you can
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: get the recovery email or whatever the other person got it.
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:04:04] Speaker 4: Yeah. The other thing to know is she could I
[1:04:07] Speaker 4: couldn't get into her find my through my phone. But
[1:04:10] Speaker 4: had it been on the computer, we could have done it.
[1:04:13] Speaker 4: She could have done it on the computer. She just
[1:04:15] Speaker 4: couldn't do it on the iPhone.
[1:04:16] Speaker 1: Okay, So go to a computer. Jefferson Graham dot com.
[1:04:19] Speaker 1: Jefferson Graham dot com, can you give me one hint?
[1:04:22] Speaker 1: We got a run, But can you give me one
[1:04:23] Speaker 1: hint of one of your favorite places. Just give me one.
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: Give me a no one of my favorite places.
[1:04:27] Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, I've had an ice cream. I've been to
[1:04:30] Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty different locations for photo walks through
[1:04:34] Speaker 4: the years, and I've had an ice cream cone in
[1:04:36] Speaker 4: every last one of them.
[1:04:37] Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
[1:04:38] Speaker 4: And and I've been from Amarillo to Zion National Park.
[1:04:44] Speaker 4: And the best ice cream cone I ever had in
[1:04:46] Speaker 4: my life was in Cincinnati, Ohio at Greaters at Greater's ice.
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: Cream, Greaters ice Cream, Cincinnati, Ohio. Yes, you heard it
[1:04:54] Speaker 1: here first. All right, Jefferson Graham, thanks so much for
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: joining me today. Have a good Labor day. Thank you,
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: all right, Jefferson Graham dot com. I'll link it up
[1:05:02] Speaker 1: on the website rich on Tech dot TV. Coming up,
[1:05:05] Speaker 1: we'll take more of your calls at eighty eight rich
[1:05:07] Speaker 1: one on one plus I'll tell you how Verizon is
[1:05:08] Speaker 1: reinventing the home phone.
[1:05:11] Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech.
[1:05:15] Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
[1:05:19] Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Eighty to eight rich one
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four
[1:05:24] Speaker 1: one zero one. Just flying through today's show. Uh now
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: I want some ice cream because we heard about the
[1:05:31] Speaker 1: best ice cream cone our guests, Jefferson Graham went to
[1:05:34] Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty places where he's had an ice
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: cream cone, and he said, Greaters is the best he's
[1:05:40] Speaker 1: ever had in Cincinnati.
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: G And by the way, it's spelled g r a
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: e t e r s. So g R a e
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: T e r s.
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: And they ship nationwide. I mean, it's weird to get
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: ice cream delivered to your house.
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: How do you do that?
[1:05:58] Speaker 1: Like it must it must be like in one of
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: the Frozen I mean, how much is this shipping to
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: get ice cream delivered? You're probably better off just going
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: to the store, like just making a trip to Cincinnati.
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: So are they only in Cincinnati? Let's see, Yeah, it
[1:06:11] Speaker 1: looks like it interesting. Well, they have a whole bunch
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: though there. Oh no, they're not just in Cincinnati. Hold on, okay,
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: they're in Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Indianapolis, Lexington, Louisville, Northern Kentucky, Oxford,
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
[1:06:28] Speaker 2: So they have them in a lot of places. But
[1:06:30] Speaker 2: now you know, put it on your list. G R
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: A E T e r s.
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: And if you're using my little system of saving things.
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: You can go into Google Keep and you can just
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: tell Google Gemini AI like, hey, this is the best
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: ice cream cone, and then later on you can ask Gemini, hey,
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: check my notes for what did I say it was
[1:06:47] Speaker 1: the best ice cream place, and it'll say what you
[1:06:50] Speaker 1: just did. Or the other way to do it iPhone
[1:06:53] Speaker 1: Android is just use your Maps app and start saving stuff.
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: There's a little option when you when you type something
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: in that it says safe and so they're like under
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: anything that you search for if you look at the
[1:07:06] Speaker 1: top and Google Maps, it says safe. And you can
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: just make lists. I make tons of these lists when
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: I go on vacation. If I'm going to a different city,
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: someone tells me something, you can make all kinds of
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: lists on there. iPhone has it as well with Apple Maps.
[1:07:17] Speaker 1: They've got it too. All right, let's go to Margie
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: in Fullerton.
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: You are on with Rich.
[1:07:25] Speaker 12: Yes, Hi, Rich, thank you. I wanted to know if
[1:07:29] Speaker 12: there anything out there that I have a couple of
[1:07:33] Speaker 12: story ideas that I want to put together with like
[1:07:37] Speaker 12: an AI, you know, device that can literally kick my tick,
[1:07:44] Speaker 12: give me a video, give me some conversation and even
[1:07:49] Speaker 12: music if possible. Is there any any platform or app
[1:07:54] Speaker 12: that you can literally just give it a text thing,
[1:07:57] Speaker 12: you know, it's about Rich and Margie talking on you know,
[1:08:00] Speaker 12: the radio show, and then it actually will do those
[1:08:02] Speaker 12: three or four different things for completed two to three
[1:08:06] Speaker 12: minutes video.
[1:08:08] Speaker 13: Uh.
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: Look, there are a lot of tools that can do
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: something like this. Are these Is this like real life
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: or is this animation?
[1:08:15] Speaker 8: Like?
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: What do you want it to look like?
[1:08:17] Speaker 9: Animation?
[1:08:18] Speaker 7: Oh?
[1:08:18] Speaker 2: Animation?
[1:08:18] Speaker 1: Okay, I mean there are so many tools that can
[1:08:21] Speaker 1: do this. I will I will just spoiler alert if
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: you do that, it's gonna look horrible, like it's just
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: it's you can you can do pieces of this using
[1:08:30] Speaker 1: these tools, But at the end of the day, it's
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: gonna be really tough to just put in one group
[1:08:36] Speaker 1: of text and say, tell this story of Rich walking
[1:08:39] Speaker 1: down the street and a giant dinosaur comes up from
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: behind and you know, takes over the sun and you know,
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: it all goes dark or something like.
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: It can do parts.
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: I know, the worst story ever. I don't even know
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: what that was, laughing. What kind of dark story is that?
[1:08:54] Speaker 1: I don't even understand, Like, that's the weirdest story. This
[1:08:57] Speaker 1: is why I don't tell my kids bedtime stories like
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: that is like, I don't know, stick to the.
[1:09:04] Speaker 2: Three Little Bears or whatever little Red Robbin Little Red
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: Robin hood is that it.
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:09:09] Speaker 1: I'm bad with the stories. I have sang my kids
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: the same three songs to bed for fourteen years.
[1:09:17] Speaker 3: Now.
[1:09:17] Speaker 1: My kid who's fourteen years old, I kid you not,
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: he's gonna be so embarrassed if he ever hears this.
[1:09:22] Speaker 1: I sing him the same three songs that I've sang
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: him since he was born, and it is Twinkle Twinkle,
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: Little Star, ABC D E FG and Kumbayah. Those are
[1:09:35] Speaker 1: the three every single night, I mean, if when I'm home,
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: and you know, doing that with stuff anyway. So the
[1:09:42] Speaker 1: tools to do stuff like this number one I would
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: check out if I would assume, Margie, you want to
[1:09:47] Speaker 1: start out with free, so I would check out Adobe Express.
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: These are sort of beginner tools Adobe Express. You know,
[1:09:54] Speaker 1: there's this thing called Canva out there that basically has
[1:09:57] Speaker 1: taken over the creativity in all the world, and they
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: have stuff that does this as well. But Adobe Express
[1:10:03] Speaker 1: is sort of Adobe who is the eight hundred pound
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: gorilla in the room. They were always the number one
[1:10:09] Speaker 1: traditional company for anything animation and video and photography. And
[1:10:14] Speaker 1: then Canva came along and kind of just swept the
[1:10:17] Speaker 1: rug underneath their feet for like the average consumer, right,
[1:10:20] Speaker 1: and so Adobe has had to kind of regroup, and
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: don't cry for Adobe. They're still doing pretty well, but
[1:10:27] Speaker 1: you know, so they came up with this thing called
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: Adobe Express that I don't think anyone knows about Adobe
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: dot com slash Express, and they let you do all
[1:10:35] Speaker 1: kinds of stuff on there, like I'm talking everything, and
[1:10:37] Speaker 1: one of them is specifically animate your voice for free,
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: make an animated character from your own voice using Adobe Express.
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: Start now and you can do it. Shows a little frog,
[1:10:47] Speaker 1: the anime, add your voice and it will make the
[1:10:49] Speaker 1: animation for you. So that's number one Adobe Express animated character.
[1:10:55] Speaker 1: And then they have by the way, I would just
[1:10:56] Speaker 1: bookmark Adobe Express. They've got so many tools on there
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: that are free that you can use and it's it's
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: really really good. Number two there is let's see, there
[1:11:06] Speaker 1: is an app called Animaker a n I M a
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: k E r Ani maker, and I don't know how
[1:11:13] Speaker 1: free this is. Let's see pricing. You can usually these
[1:11:16] Speaker 1: things are you start for free and then you can
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: eventually pay this. It looks like they have some free level,
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: but if you want to do something that's basic, you
[1:11:23] Speaker 1: got to pay fifteen dollars a month. The other thing
[1:11:26] Speaker 1: I would recommend is really check out Google Vo. They
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: are like, really, this is what I was talking about
[1:11:34] Speaker 1: with with the Wizard of Oz. But if you just
[1:11:37] Speaker 1: go on Gemini and just just check out Google Vo,
[1:11:40] Speaker 1: you can make all kinds of stuff on there with
[1:11:43] Speaker 1: audio as well. It may not do the like talking
[1:11:47] Speaker 1: that you wanted, but and this only goes up to
[1:11:50] Speaker 1: eight seconds, but it's pretty incredible. VO three is there,
[1:11:54] Speaker 1: so you can do that. And then Google has one
[1:11:56] Speaker 1: called Google Flow.
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: I think it's called.
[1:12:00] Speaker 1: Google Flow AI Animated Animation and look at you can
[1:12:05] Speaker 1: try flow free of charge with one hundred monthly credits.
[1:12:07] Speaker 1: So that's brand new. So Flow vo, the Adobe, the animaker.
[1:12:13] Speaker 1: You got a lot of places to start there. The
[1:12:16] Speaker 1: other one is eleven Labs for voice stuff. That one's
[1:12:18] Speaker 1: really good as well. I'll link it all up on
[1:12:19] Speaker 1: the website. Margie rich on tech dot TV. Coming up,
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: I'll tell you how I uh almost got in trouble
[1:12:26] Speaker 1: for checking.
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: Out the mini bar at my hotel in Las Vegas.
[1:12:28] Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech.
[1:12:33] Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
[1:12:36] Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Should I give the phone
[1:12:40] Speaker 1: number out again? I don't even know if we have
[1:12:41] Speaker 1: more time for more calls. Eighty to eight rich one
[1:12:43] Speaker 1: on one eighty eight seven four to two four one
[1:12:46] Speaker 1: zero one. Kim, you know we chat throughout the show.
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: She's saying, no more calls. It's all filled up. I know,
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: I know, I know, but she she said, you sing
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: your teenager to bed.
[1:12:59] Speaker 9: Lol.
[1:13:01] Speaker 2: He likes it. But I know that's gonna change. I
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: know any day. It's just gonna be over some like Dad,
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: get out of here. Uh yeah.
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: And also we got an email about the Greater's ice cream.
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: Sandy says best black raspberry with chocolate chips. Big Chips
[1:13:16] Speaker 1: had it at a Reds game and they say that
[1:13:20] Speaker 1: they sell it at some grocery stores.
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, we'll have to look for that. All right.
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: Let's go to John in Moore Park. John, you're on
[1:13:28] Speaker 2: with rich Hey.
[1:13:30] Speaker 9: Ron, thank you for taking the call.
[1:13:33] Speaker 2: What's up all right?
[1:13:35] Speaker 9: D and Router and I keep losing the internet on it.
[1:13:40] Speaker 9: I have WiFi accents, but I keep losing the internet well,
[1:13:43] Speaker 9: what am I doing wrong?
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: Nothing, it's them. You got to call him up because
[1:13:47] Speaker 1: this happened to me and I was driving me nuts.
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: When I tell you, John, this was driving me insane.
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: Every day I would lose Wi Fi. And I am
[1:13:58] Speaker 1: a tech person and so I knew everything was in order,
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: all my stuff was working. I called up AT and T.
[1:14:05] Speaker 1: They had never heard of this. They could not believe it.
[1:14:08] Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding.
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: It took a guy. He come, He comes out to
[1:14:12] Speaker 2: the house and he said, there's nothing wrong.
[1:14:14] Speaker 1: There's absolutely nothing wrong with your internet from anywhere I'm talking.
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you're gonna have to I'm gonna switch
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: carriers at this point because it's I can't deal with this.
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: And he said.
[1:14:23] Speaker 1: I looked at every line. I went on the pole,
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: I went there, I went here, under the house. Nothing,
[1:14:29] Speaker 1: he said. But here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
[1:14:31] Speaker 1: come back when it goes out at three pm, like
[1:14:34] Speaker 1: you say, and I'm gonna do some tests. And sure enough,
[1:14:38] Speaker 1: there was some sort of filter, I don't know what
[1:14:40] Speaker 1: they call it, low band, HIGHBA whatever filter they had
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: on the line was defective and so it fails when
[1:14:47] Speaker 1: I don't know why it would fail every day at three,
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: but it just did. And there's probably part of this
[1:14:51] Speaker 1: story I'm not understanding, but this is what they told me.
[1:14:53] Speaker 1: But basically it was their issue. So that is my
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: advice to you. So, so you know, do you have
[1:15:01] Speaker 1: everything set up properly? Like are using their router with
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: their internet or using their I'm.
[1:15:06] Speaker 5: Paying for it.
[1:15:07] Speaker 13: I had.
[1:15:08] Speaker 9: I've had it for about five years. I changed apartments
[1:15:11] Speaker 9: from upstairs to downstairs, and after I changed downstairs, I've
[1:15:16] Speaker 9: been having problems.
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: Oh you, Oh well see that's different. You change something, John,
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: what did you change?
[1:15:22] Speaker 4: No?
[1:15:22] Speaker 9: Well, they came in and they the guy came No,
[1:15:25] Speaker 9: he he moved the router from upstairs to downstairs. But
[1:15:30] Speaker 9: it's their router. Excise me me. The guy came out
[1:15:32] Speaker 9: physically when I moved apartments from upstairs to downstairs.
[1:15:37] Speaker 2: Okay, but it's their router.
[1:15:39] Speaker 1: I've done nothing wrong, okay, I'm well, no, no, I don't.
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: I don't think you did anything wrong. But okay, so
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: what is happening exactly? Does your internet go out?
[1:15:46] Speaker 7: Like?
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: Is it intermit in at certain times?
[1:15:48] Speaker 8: Yeah?
[1:15:48] Speaker 9: It just I get in a note it says no,
[1:15:51] Speaker 9: no more internet no Internet unavailable.
[1:15:54] Speaker 1: Okay, well that sounds like the problem I had because
[1:15:57] Speaker 1: the system was fine and it works it works other.
[1:16:00] Speaker 9: Times, right if I if I decide to leave AT
[1:16:05] Speaker 9: and D, is there another company that you recommend this better?
[1:16:08] Speaker 4: Well? See that?
[1:16:10] Speaker 1: Look a number one AT and T Fiber is amazing
[1:16:13] Speaker 1: because I'm assuming you're getting like a very high download
[1:16:16] Speaker 1: and upload speed.
[1:16:17] Speaker 7: Right, well, I hope I am who knows?
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: Well, what are you paying for?
[1:16:22] Speaker 3: I who know?
[1:16:23] Speaker 8: Right day?
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: For Well, here's the deal. Here's what I would do
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: in your case, I would call AT and T. You're
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: paying to rent this modem and Wi Fi from them,
[1:16:32] Speaker 1: That means it is their issue. You have to call
[1:16:35] Speaker 1: them and say, look, I need someone to come out
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: here and investigate this because it has worked for many years.
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: I've had this thing for five years. I'm paying you
[1:16:43] Speaker 1: guys every month ten dollars a month for this whatever
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: it is, and I need you to come out and
[1:16:47] Speaker 1: fix it. And if you don't fix it, I'm switching.
[1:16:49] Speaker 1: And by the way, here's all the other people I.
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: Can switch to.
[1:16:52] Speaker 1: You've got options. Not only do you you may have
[1:16:54] Speaker 1: another wired option in your area, but you also have
[1:16:59] Speaker 1: wireless options. So The two wireless options are T Mobile,
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: T Mobile five G Home and then you've got Verizon
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: five G Home. And these are just boxes john that
[1:17:11] Speaker 1: you literally they fedexit to you or whatever they overnight
[1:17:15] Speaker 1: it to you. You open the box, you plug it in,
[1:17:18] Speaker 1: it finds a cellular signal and it re broadcasts that
[1:17:21] Speaker 1: cellular signal as your Wi Fi signal. So the main
[1:17:24] Speaker 1: caveat to get this five G home Internet from one
[1:17:27] Speaker 1: of these companies T Mobile or Verizon is you have
[1:17:30] Speaker 1: to have a good signal in your apartment from them.
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: So I don't know which phone you have, whether it's
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: Verizon AT and T or T Mobile, But if you
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: have T Mobile and you have got a great signal there,
[1:17:40] Speaker 1: go ahead get the T Mobile Internet. But first I
[1:17:43] Speaker 1: would always recommend going with wired internet because it's going
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: to be the most reliable, it's going to be the fastest.
[1:17:49] Speaker 1: So I would call AT and T see if you
[1:17:51] Speaker 1: can get this resolved. If you can't, you just got
[1:17:53] Speaker 1: to move. You gotta switch. And there's another way to test.
[1:17:58] Speaker 1: Speed tests and let's see. Let's see speed test. They
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: have like an ISP.
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: I gotta find it.
[1:18:07] Speaker 1: They have a website where they tell you basically all
[1:18:10] Speaker 1: the different providers in your area. So it's called speed test.
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: Just search best Internet providers and it will give you
[1:18:18] Speaker 1: a list. You pop in your zip code and I'll
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: give you a list of every single provider that has
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: service in your area. We're talking, you know, at the
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: and you can go with starlink if you need it.
[1:18:30] Speaker 1: If you if you really had no other options, you
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: can go at starlink anyway. I'll put the link on
[1:18:35] Speaker 1: the website for that. Richon tech dot TV. Give me
[1:18:37] Speaker 1: a call back, John, or send me an email let
[1:18:40] Speaker 1: me know the update on that. I think this is
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: an easy question from Ed in rialto Ed.
[1:18:45] Speaker 2: You're on with Rich.
[1:18:47] Speaker 14: Hello, let me take a speak. Yeah, I'm looking for
[1:18:51] Speaker 14: a I've got Windows ten and I'm looking for a
[1:18:57] Speaker 14: You talk into the microphone and then in the email
[1:19:00] Speaker 14: or whatever window you got to open, it'll type out
[1:19:02] Speaker 14: what's said.
[1:19:03] Speaker 1: Yes, I've got the solution. It's incredible. It's the only
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: solution i'd recommend. It's called whisper flow w I s
[1:19:11] Speaker 1: p R flow dot AI ed is the most incredible
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: thing you'll ever.
[1:19:16] Speaker 2: Use in your entire life.
[1:19:17] Speaker 14: But will it work on ten?
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: Yes, it'll work on It should work on Windows and Mac.
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: I I've I've got it installed my Windows. I have
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: Windows eleven here. But I don't see any reason why
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: it wouldn't work on ten. Why is there is there
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: something that's different about ten that wouldn't work?
[1:19:32] Speaker 14: Well, uh, well, it's another brand that's been around for
[1:19:36] Speaker 14: a long time, but they're kind of dragon.
[1:19:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, this is this will blow away dragon dragon. This.
[1:19:42] Speaker 1: This is the fire that's going to burn that dragon up.
[1:19:44] Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is this is next level. When
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: I tell you, I don't think I could live without
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: this app. I've got up my iPhone, I've got it
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: on my Windows, I've got up my Mac. I'm just
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: waiting for it to come to Android. It is the
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: most incredible voice dictator you will ever use because it
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: not only does voice to text, it uses AI to
[1:20:06] Speaker 1: understand what you're saying and polish what you're saying. Yes,
[1:20:11] Speaker 1: and it is so you get two thousand You don't
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: even have to it's free to sign up. You get
[1:20:15] Speaker 1: two thousand words I think a week or a month,
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: whatever it is. If you hit that limit, you'll have
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: to pay. I think if you try this you will
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: just absolutely fall in love with it. It is truly incredible.
[1:20:25] Speaker 14: Oh it's not even a box program with the DBD
[1:20:28] Speaker 14: or something.
[1:20:29] Speaker 1: No, this is just go online, download it to your
[1:20:32] Speaker 1: computer and you'll be up and running in seconds. I
[1:20:35] Speaker 1: think we had them on here on the show, but
[1:20:38] Speaker 1: they it's just incredible. So the other thing I would
[1:20:41] Speaker 1: recommend to use Gmail or.
[1:20:42] Speaker 14: No, I forget the passwords so easy I can try
[1:20:48] Speaker 14: to open another account.
[1:20:50] Speaker 1: Well, I'm just there's another feature in Gmail that I'm
[1:20:52] Speaker 1: really coming to love, and it's called Polish your Email.
[1:20:56] Speaker 1: And so what happens is I do a one two punch.
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: I used Whisper to dictate my emails, and then you
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: tap this little there's a little tiny icon in your
[1:21:06] Speaker 1: Gmail window looks like a pencil with a little AI star,
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: and it's called help me Write. Once you type your email,
[1:21:16] Speaker 1: you then tap that little icon and it polishes what
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: you just wrote and no matter. You could write a
[1:21:21] Speaker 1: whole bunch of nonsense and it will make it sensical
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: and amazing and clean up all the punctuation and all
[1:21:26] Speaker 1: this stuff. It's like the most the best hidden feature
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: ever on Gmail that I don't understand. Why it took
[1:21:33] Speaker 1: me a year to start using it and it's been
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: around for a bit. But anyway, those are the two things.
[1:21:38] Speaker 6: Ed.
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: Definitely check out whisper flow wisprflow dot ai.
[1:21:45] Speaker 2: That's the website for that.
[1:21:46] Speaker 14: Oh I got that part.
[1:21:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you get the right one cause I'm
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of imposters out there, so be
[1:21:52] Speaker 1: careful and I'll link it up on the website rich
[1:21:55] Speaker 1: on tech dot tv.
[1:21:56] Speaker 5: But I can blow that up.
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: There you go, There you go, Ed, Thank you so much.
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: All right, look at this solving problems, changing lives.
[1:22:06] Speaker 2: What else can we do today? How much longer do
[1:22:09] Speaker 2: I have? Bobo?
[1:22:12] Speaker 10: Oh?
[1:22:12] Speaker 2: How many more things can we do in a minute?
[1:22:15] Speaker 2: Let's see.
[1:22:16] Speaker 1: Oh, I'll tell you about this, and Jim, I see
[1:22:18] Speaker 1: you holding on there. We'll get you after the break.
[1:22:22] Speaker 1: Verizon has a new feature called family Line, and this
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: article in PC mag written by my friend Rob Pegoraro,
[1:22:29] Speaker 1: he says this Verizon new family Line is part of
[1:22:33] Speaker 1: its Family Plus bundle. It's a virtual home phone number
[1:22:36] Speaker 1: that can ring up to five different smartphones, and family
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: members can also call from it or join a call
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: in progress. So the main thing, he says, the caveat
[1:22:46] Speaker 1: is that you can't port in an existing landline number.
[1:22:49] Speaker 1: I don't understand why that would make a lot of sense.
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: Only new numbers you can get on this Verizon will
[1:22:54] Speaker 1: try to match your area code some places that may
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: not be possible. If you have one of these numbers,
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: you can can pourt it out to a different carrier.
[1:23:02] Speaker 1: But it's I looked this up, this this feature, and
[1:23:06] Speaker 1: it's like ten dollars a month if you have Verizon
[1:23:08] Speaker 1: on one of their good plans.
[1:23:11] Speaker 2: But here's what I don't know.
[1:23:12] Speaker 1: I don't understand if it just rings the different lines
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: or if it assigns that phone number like it sounds
[1:23:17] Speaker 1: like it's Google Voice, because Google Voice you could just
[1:23:20] Speaker 1: assign it to call five phones or whatever however many
[1:23:23] Speaker 1: phones you want at once. But it's interesting that you
[1:23:26] Speaker 1: can call from it as well. And I couldn't find
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: a lot of information about this online. But if you're
[1:23:32] Speaker 1: trying to find a phone number that you can have
[1:23:34] Speaker 1: for your family line, Verizon's got something that sort of
[1:23:38] Speaker 1: sounds like it would work. But also check out Google
[1:23:40] Speaker 1: Voice as well. All right, eight eight eight rich one
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: on one. Oh sorry, Kim rich on tech dot tv.
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: Is the website email is still open?
[1:23:50] Speaker 9: Uh?
[1:23:50] Speaker 2: Coming up? I will tell you.
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: Yes, how my minibar experience was not so great in
[1:23:54] Speaker 1: Las Vegas. This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,
[1:24:00] Speaker 1: talking technology.
[1:24:02] Speaker 2: Let's go to Jim. Jim is in Sherman Oaks. You're
[1:24:06] Speaker 2: on with Rich.
[1:24:07] Speaker 7: Hey, Rich, happy holiday weekend. It's another action packed, educational,
[1:24:11] Speaker 7: informative holiday weekend with you.
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: Thank you for that, well, thank you for uh putting
[1:24:16] Speaker 1: all those words.
[1:24:17] Speaker 2: What what was the action packed aspect?
[1:24:20] Speaker 9: Oh?
[1:24:20] Speaker 7: That was easy, that was easy. You had thriller too,
[1:24:22] Speaker 7: you had well, the action pack was definitely the Wizard
[1:24:24] Speaker 7: of Oz. Really when the people the people calling in
[1:24:27] Speaker 7: about all their security woes which will never end.
[1:24:29] Speaker 2: Right, No, that will never end.
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: This is uh, you know, it's it's it's wild because
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: you know, people email me and text me all the
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: time with like things that happen to them, and it's
[1:24:40] Speaker 1: it's it happens all the time. People still, Yeah, it's ongoing.
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: So anyway, what's what can I help you with?
[1:24:47] Speaker 7: That's why you're around. Thank you for that. Yeah, you
[1:24:51] Speaker 7: know I had a way to go on the Whisper Flow.
[1:24:53] Speaker 7: I totally agree with that too. I had a coome
[1:24:56] Speaker 7: question about personal uh personal hotspots on you I use
[1:24:59] Speaker 7: and it in iPhone and I have, uh, you know,
[1:25:02] Speaker 7: use my iPhone as a hotspot, and I just want
[1:25:04] Speaker 7: to know how safe that is. And I remember somewhere
[1:25:07] Speaker 7: it's either on Android or iPhone where I could specify
[1:25:10] Speaker 7: the number of devices being used so that no one
[1:25:13] Speaker 7: else could even get on the on the on the
[1:25:15] Speaker 7: on the line, and if I should make it hidden
[1:25:18] Speaker 7: to make it even safer. Also, my brother on the
[1:25:20] Speaker 7: US coast is asking me about UBK if you should
[1:25:23] Speaker 7: use it for his phone because he hates face id.
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: Hmm.
[1:25:27] Speaker 1: Okay, well let's break down the first question about the
[1:25:29] Speaker 1: hot spots. So on iPhone number one, I think hotspot
[1:25:33] Speaker 1: is pretty secure. I don't think there's like a major
[1:25:38] Speaker 1: security risk in using it, but you're right, it does
[1:25:40] Speaker 1: potentially broadcast out your information. So I would say, when
[1:25:44] Speaker 1: you're creating your hot spot, maybe use a name that
[1:25:48] Speaker 1: is not you know, that is not something that's identifiable.
[1:25:52] Speaker 2: Right on Android, you can you can change.
[1:25:56] Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this, okay, So it allows it
[1:25:58] Speaker 1: looks like on my iPhone, uses the name of your
[1:26:01] Speaker 1: iPhone as your hotspot setting, so as your you know name,
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: which you can go in and change the name of
[1:26:07] Speaker 1: your iPhone if it says anything super personal.
[1:26:10] Speaker 9: I used to have that.
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: Okay, I have mine as Rich's iPhone dot exe, and
[1:26:15] Speaker 1: that really that really kept people away because you know,
[1:26:19] Speaker 1: no one wants to click on an exc file.
[1:26:22] Speaker 2: So that's number one.
[1:26:23] Speaker 1: Now on Android, you get a lot more options because
[1:26:26] Speaker 1: they give you just a lot more of like personalization
[1:26:29] Speaker 1: and things like that.
[1:26:30] Speaker 2: So i'd have to go in here.
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: I'm looking at the pixel specifically, let's see hotspot and tethering.
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: So they give you a whole bunch of options, like
[1:26:37] Speaker 1: your name you can set in there, you can set
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: your security, you can set your password, you can turn
[1:26:43] Speaker 1: off the hotspot automatically when no one is connected.
[1:26:47] Speaker 7: Uh.
[1:26:47] Speaker 2: Speed and compatibility you can do that as well.
[1:26:49] Speaker 1: And then instant hotspot, which is kind of a feature
[1:26:51] Speaker 1: if you have another Android device, it can latch on
[1:26:55] Speaker 1: to that hot spot instantly.
[1:26:57] Speaker 7: Right.
[1:26:57] Speaker 2: iPhone is something similar, but long story.
[1:26:59] Speaker 7: Short, make the hidden right, so when you're out working
[1:27:01] Speaker 7: in a public area like a New York let's say
[1:27:03] Speaker 7: a coffee bar as an example.
[1:27:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a way that I see to make
[1:27:07] Speaker 1: it hidden on the iPhone or Android.
[1:27:09] Speaker 2: But here's the deal.
[1:27:10] Speaker 1: As long as you have a good password, I don't
[1:27:12] Speaker 1: think that people are gonna be able to latch in.
[1:27:14] Speaker 1: And on the iPhone, I believe, and and on Android
[1:27:18] Speaker 1: it tells you when someone's connected. So if you are
[1:27:22] Speaker 1: and on Android specifically, it'll tell you, I believe. On
[1:27:25] Speaker 1: Samsung it shows you, like the name of the device,
[1:27:28] Speaker 1: I believe that's connected. So I think that may be something.
[1:27:31] Speaker 1: So what are you running? You're running iPhone or Android
[1:27:34] Speaker 1: or both?
[1:27:34] Speaker 7: I both. I have Chrome, he's a Chromebook when I'm
[1:27:37] Speaker 7: ountain about, but I also have the Pixel, and I
[1:27:40] Speaker 7: have the I have a special edition as a work phone,
[1:27:43] Speaker 7: and then I have the thirteen.
[1:27:45] Speaker 2: Okay, wow, you've got a lot of stuff. Well what
[1:27:47] Speaker 2: I would do.
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: What I would do then for the Pixel is look
[1:27:50] Speaker 1: in your hotspot and that instant hot spot. That might
[1:27:53] Speaker 1: be the best way to do it. And that way
[1:27:55] Speaker 1: it will just know when your Chromebook is nearby. It
[1:27:58] Speaker 1: will say, hey, do you want to connect your Pixel?
[1:28:00] Speaker 1: And it won't as far as I can tell. You
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: can still have your hot spot off and it will
[1:28:05] Speaker 1: still the instant hot spot will still trigger when you
[1:28:08] Speaker 1: bring your your Chromebook nearby. So that's one way of
[1:28:11] Speaker 1: making it a little bit more secure. But I think
[1:28:12] Speaker 1: in general, as long as you have a good, strong
[1:28:15] Speaker 1: password on your hot spot, you know, it's like anything else. Sure,
[1:28:18] Speaker 1: there's a potential, but is it you know, is it
[1:28:22] Speaker 1: going to happen? Probably?
[1:28:23] Speaker 4: Not.
[1:28:23] Speaker 1: Like I think you should be okay there now with
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: the Yuba key. Is that that you're talking about, like
[1:28:29] Speaker 1: the physical security key?
[1:28:31] Speaker 7: Yeah? I like I agree with him in ways, like
[1:28:33] Speaker 7: sometimes it's just jankee to use the face ID when
[1:28:36] Speaker 7: you really need it. But he also has bigger privacy
[1:28:39] Speaker 7: concerns than I. He's on He's on Android only and
[1:28:43] Speaker 7: in this whole household is Android. But I mentioned it,
[1:28:46] Speaker 7: He's like, what if I lose the key, I should
[1:28:47] Speaker 7: always buy two?
[1:28:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, have a backup.
[1:28:50] Speaker 7: Yeah, but I mean I don't even know that they're
[1:28:52] Speaker 7: available on phones.
[1:28:53] Speaker 2: Are they? Yes?
[1:28:53] Speaker 1: They are, and and I yes, I know. I will
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: tell you they've been pushing these for a while. I
[1:28:59] Speaker 1: have not personally tested it because I'll be completely honest,
[1:29:02] Speaker 1: I think the past keys are kind of taking over
[1:29:05] Speaker 1: the UBI keys. But here's the thing, before you send
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: me angry emails, not you, But in general, I think
[1:29:11] Speaker 1: that in general, this is probably one of the most
[1:29:14] Speaker 1: secure ways to protect your identity because it's a third
[1:29:18] Speaker 1: party hardware key like this is something physical that if
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: you don't plug it into your phone, you're not gonna
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: be able to log in. And so that's why people
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: sort of like it. And I think it's it's not
[1:29:29] Speaker 1: for the average person. I think it's a little bit
[1:29:31] Speaker 1: more intermediate to advanced, and so I would recommend it
[1:29:36] Speaker 1: for that, but I think I think maybe tell them
[1:29:38] Speaker 1: to check out the past keys to try those. But yes,
[1:29:41] Speaker 1: I agree, the whole login process is definitely contoluted. All right,
[1:29:45] Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Jim, appreciate it. Coming up, we're
[1:29:47] Speaker 1: gonna talk quantum computing.
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: We're gonna get really techy and nerdy.
[1:29:51] Speaker 1: Here here we go, Welcome back to rich on Tech
[1:29:56] Speaker 1: rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology the
[1:29:59] Speaker 1: webs site rich on tech dot TV. I know I've
[1:30:04] Speaker 1: told you a lot of stuff today, a lot of
[1:30:06] Speaker 1: great tips and tricks. It is all linked up on
[1:30:09] Speaker 1: the website. This is episode one three seven, So if
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: you want anything I mentioned, I promise you it is
[1:30:16] Speaker 1: all there and easy to get linked whether it's the projectors,
[1:30:21] Speaker 1: the two factor authentication app, I mentioned how to clean
[1:30:23] Speaker 1: up your iPhone. Even the ice cream that we mentioned
[1:30:26] Speaker 1: that was so delicious, which, by the way, we found
[1:30:29] Speaker 1: near us. Bobo located it at a grocery store nearby,
[1:30:32] Speaker 1: So we are gonna I think we need a live
[1:30:34] Speaker 1: taste test at some point. All right, My next guest,
[1:30:37] Speaker 1: very excited for, Scott Aronson, is professor at U T Austin.
[1:30:42] Speaker 1: He's the director of the Quantum Information Center, and he
[1:30:45] Speaker 1: is here to explain the basics of quantum computing.
[1:30:49] Speaker 2: Scott, Welcome to the show.
[1:30:51] Speaker 11: Thanks great to be here.
[1:30:53] Speaker 1: So I'm sure this is pretty much what everyone asks
[1:30:56] Speaker 1: that the basics is what is quantum computing?
[1:30:59] Speaker 2: Can you answer that in less than ten minutes?
[1:31:02] Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not easy, but I can try. So it's
[1:31:07] Speaker 13: a proposal for a new kind of computer that's going
[1:31:10] Speaker 13: to exploit the rules of quantum mechanics to solve certain
[1:31:13] Speaker 13: specific problems a lot faster than we know how to
[1:31:17] Speaker 13: solve them with today's computers. So basically, you know, quantum
[1:31:21] Speaker 13: mechanics has been with us for one hundred years at
[1:31:24] Speaker 13: this point, and it's you know, one of the biggest
[1:31:28] Speaker 13: changes that physics ever had to sort of how the
[1:31:34] Speaker 13: our understanding of how the world works. Really, it's a
[1:31:37] Speaker 13: change to the rules of probability, right, It changes how
[1:31:41] Speaker 13: you have to calculate how likely something is to happen. So,
[1:31:46] Speaker 13: you know, quantum mechanics is based on these numbers called
[1:31:48] Speaker 13: amplitudes that can you know, like that can be positive
[1:31:53] Speaker 13: or negative. You know, you'd never talk about a negative
[1:31:55] Speaker 13: thirty percent chance that it's going to rain tomorrow, but
[1:31:58] Speaker 13: you know you could have a negative amplitude that an
[1:32:01] Speaker 13: electron will reach a certain point, okay.
[1:32:04] Speaker 11: And the key thing in quantum.
[1:32:05] Speaker 13: Mechanics is that if you want to know how likely
[1:32:08] Speaker 13: something is to happen, you've got to add up the
[1:32:10] Speaker 13: amplitudes for all the different ways that it could have happened.
[1:32:14] Speaker 13: And if some of those amplitudes are positive and others
[1:32:17] Speaker 13: are negative, they can cancel each other out, which means
[1:32:20] Speaker 13: that the total amplitude is zero, and then that thing
[1:32:23] Speaker 13: never happens at all.
[1:32:24] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:32:25] Speaker 13: So so it's it's just sort of like a different
[1:32:29] Speaker 13: you know, like like we thought we understood the rules
[1:32:31] Speaker 13: of probability, and then nature comes along and says, no,
[1:32:35] Speaker 13: I use different rules.
[1:32:36] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:32:37] Speaker 11: So a quantum computer is built out of cubits right.
[1:32:41] Speaker 13: You know, a class a bit, you know, which is
[1:32:43] Speaker 13: the building block of a classical computer or something that's
[1:32:46] Speaker 13: either zero or one. A cubit is something that can
[1:32:49] Speaker 13: have an amplitude to be zero and an amplitude to
[1:32:52] Speaker 13: be one. So as you say, it's in a superposition
[1:32:55] Speaker 13: of the two states, okay, uh, you know, if you
[1:32:58] Speaker 13: measure it, then you for there's the cubit to make
[1:33:02] Speaker 13: up its mind which it wants to be, you know,
[1:33:04] Speaker 13: and there's a rule for you know, converting the amplitudes
[1:33:08] Speaker 13: into you know, the chance that you're gonna see zero
[1:33:11] Speaker 13: or one.
[1:33:11] Speaker 11: But whichever choice nature makes, it just sticks with that.
[1:33:14] Speaker 11: Like if it tells you with zero, then now it
[1:33:16] Speaker 11: is zero.
[1:33:17] Speaker 1: So that's different than a standard computer, which is always
[1:33:21] Speaker 1: in terms of like a binary like one in zero, right,
[1:33:24] Speaker 1: that's right, that's right.
[1:33:25] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:33:26] Speaker 13: And even if you didn't know if a bit was
[1:33:28] Speaker 13: zero or one, you might say it's seventy percent one,
[1:33:31] Speaker 13: you know, seventy percent chance of being one, you know,
[1:33:33] Speaker 13: like you.
[1:33:34] Speaker 11: Say, really it's one or the other, right, you just
[1:33:36] Speaker 11: don't know, Okay, But.
[1:33:39] Speaker 13: When it's in superposition, you really do have to keep
[1:33:42] Speaker 13: track of both possibilities because these amplitudes can interfere with
[1:33:46] Speaker 13: each other. Ah, right, so now that's that's weird enough
[1:33:50] Speaker 13: for one cubit. But if you've got two cubits, now
[1:33:53] Speaker 13: we need four amplitudes. We need amplitude for both cubits
[1:33:57] Speaker 13: to be zero amplitude for zero, one amplitude for one,
[1:34:00] Speaker 13: zero amplitude for one to one. If we've got three cubits,
[1:34:04] Speaker 13: we need eight amplitudes. Right, if we've got fifty cubits,
[1:34:08] Speaker 13: we need two to the fiftieth power amplitudes, which is
[1:34:10] Speaker 13: like a quadrillion.
[1:34:11] Speaker 2: That's more than I can add in my head.
[1:34:13] Speaker 13: I'm sure, yeah or I So, you know, it very
[1:34:17] Speaker 13: quickly gets way beyond the ability of you know, any
[1:34:22] Speaker 13: conventional computer to keep track of what's going on. And
[1:34:26] Speaker 13: you know, chemists and physicists have known about this for
[1:34:28] Speaker 13: a long time, that there's this exponential explosion of amplitudes
[1:34:33] Speaker 13: you know, at the heart of modern physics.
[1:34:36] Speaker 11: You know, they've known it mostly as a practical problem.
[1:34:39] Speaker 13: You know, you're trying to simulate a complicated molecule with
[1:34:43] Speaker 13: a classical computer.
[1:34:44] Speaker 11: You know you have this, you have way too many
[1:34:46] Speaker 11: amplitudes to keep track of.
[1:34:48] Speaker 13: It's like, you know, it was only you know, forty
[1:34:52] Speaker 13: five years ago that a few physicists like Richard Feynman
[1:34:56] Speaker 13: had this amazing idea that if nature is giving us
[1:34:59] Speaker 13: this computation lemon, why don't we make lemonade out of it?
[1:35:02] Speaker 11: So, you know, why don't we build.
[1:35:04] Speaker 13: A computer that itself would have this vast superposition state,
[1:35:09] Speaker 13: would be built out of cubits, would be based on amplitudes.
[1:35:13] Speaker 11: And that's what we call a quantum computer.
[1:35:15] Speaker 1: Well here, okay, so do we have quantum computers now?
[1:35:18] Speaker 1: Because I've seen a lot of these reports from Microsoft
[1:35:21] Speaker 1: and Google and you say, hey, we've got this chip,
[1:35:23] Speaker 1: we've got this thing, but like, is this actually happening?
[1:35:26] Speaker 12: Yeah.
[1:35:26] Speaker 13: No, there's a ton of hype in this area, unfortunately,
[1:35:29] Speaker 13: but there's also been a lot of real progress in
[1:35:31] Speaker 13: the last thirty years. And now we actually do have
[1:35:36] Speaker 13: small quantum computers with let's say fifty to one hundred cubits, okay,
[1:35:41] Speaker 13: and where you can do a few thousand operations on
[1:35:44] Speaker 13: these cubits, you know, while they sort of preserve their
[1:35:46] Speaker 13: quantum state now to really be useful in practice, what
[1:35:51] Speaker 13: we would like our devices with millions of cubits, okay,
[1:35:55] Speaker 13: and where you can do billions of operations on them.
[1:35:58] Speaker 13: So you know, there is a a difficulty in scaling
[1:36:01] Speaker 13: this up. But you know, when I entered this field
[1:36:04] Speaker 13: twenty five years ago, it would be amazing to just
[1:36:06] Speaker 13: get one or two cubits to work.
[1:36:07] Speaker 2: Oh wow, right ass.
[1:36:10] Speaker 13: You know, yeah yeah so so so there's been real
[1:36:12] Speaker 13: progress on controlling them, making them more reliable. And you know,
[1:36:17] Speaker 13: the big discovery that really set the engineering agenda like
[1:36:20] Speaker 13: thirty years ago was called quantum error correction that basically said,
[1:36:25] Speaker 13: if you can control the cubits well enough, then you could.
[1:36:29] Speaker 11: There are these amazing error correcting.
[1:36:31] Speaker 13: Codes to let you go the rest of the way
[1:36:33] Speaker 13: and simulate effectively perfect cubits.
[1:36:35] Speaker 1: It sounds like these cubits have like a mind of
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: their own, Like they're just like little gremlins running around
[1:36:40] Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, we got.
[1:36:41] Speaker 11: Well it's like well, it's like it's funny.
[1:36:43] Speaker 6: You know.
[1:36:43] Speaker 13: Being in superposition is like this thing that particles like
[1:36:46] Speaker 13: to do in private, right, They like to do it
[1:36:48] Speaker 13: when no one is looking, and then when you look,
[1:36:50] Speaker 13: they you know, they just pretend that they're classical, but
[1:36:53] Speaker 13: we know that they were in superposition because otherwise the
[1:36:56] Speaker 13: the amplitudes wouldn't interfere.
[1:36:58] Speaker 1: That is such a weird thing to think about. It's
[1:37:01] Speaker 1: like shining a light on them and they all like freeze.
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: You're like, hold on, yeah, right right.
[1:37:04] Speaker 13: It's like monsters under the bed or something. But they
[1:37:07] Speaker 13: do follow these very definite rules that we've known for
[1:37:09] Speaker 13: one hundred years.
[1:37:11] Speaker 2: Wow.
[1:37:11] Speaker 1: So do you think, okay, well, let's talk about some
[1:37:13] Speaker 1: of the problems that these computers, these quantum computers could solve.
[1:37:17] Speaker 2: Yes, tell me, I'm sure, all.
[1:37:20] Speaker 13: Right, Well okay, yeah, So so the two biggest applications
[1:37:25] Speaker 13: I would say that we know right now. The first
[1:37:27] Speaker 13: one is just the original one that fine men and
[1:37:30] Speaker 13: the other physicists you know, talked about forty five years ago.
[1:37:34] Speaker 13: It's the one that's so obvious that we sometimes don't
[1:37:36] Speaker 13: even mention it. Just simulating quantum physics and chemistry themselves.
[1:37:40] Speaker 11: Okay.
[1:37:41] Speaker 13: So, you know, anytime you want to design a new
[1:37:44] Speaker 13: material design, you know, high temperature superconductors or solar cells.
[1:37:50] Speaker 13: You know, you better ways of making batteries. You know,
[1:37:53] Speaker 13: you probably have a many body quantum mechanics problem, like
[1:37:56] Speaker 13: lots of interacting electrons, you know that have some huge
[1:38:00] Speaker 13: number of amplitudes to keep track of. And these are
[1:38:03] Speaker 13: all things where a quantum computer could potentially help.
[1:38:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the second one.
[1:38:11] Speaker 13: Potentially Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, biochemistry, you know.
[1:38:14] Speaker 13: Now it's tricky because, you know, the hard part with
[1:38:16] Speaker 13: a quantum computer is that it's never good enough to
[1:38:20] Speaker 13: do something quantumly for it for to be interesting, you
[1:38:23] Speaker 13: have to beat the best that could be done with
[1:38:25] Speaker 13: a classical computer. You're always trying to compare. And you know,
[1:38:29] Speaker 13: in classical computing is not static either, right, it gets
[1:38:32] Speaker 13: to fight back. People keep discovering new classical algorithms.
[1:38:36] Speaker 11: So, for example, you.
[1:38:38] Speaker 13: Know, we've gotten way way better at at understanding proteins
[1:38:42] Speaker 13: using classical computers because of AI such as alpha fault. Right, So,
[1:38:48] Speaker 13: so now now the bar is higher for what a
[1:38:50] Speaker 13: quantum computer has to beat in order to be useful.
[1:38:53] Speaker 1: Oh so, like the regular computers now with the applications
[1:38:57] Speaker 1: of AI, have gotten better at what they can do.
[1:39:00] Speaker 1: So now it's like, hold on, now we need quantum
[1:39:02] Speaker 1: to be even better because of this.
[1:39:03] Speaker 13: Well, well, hopefully hopefully you could combine AI with quantum
[1:39:07] Speaker 13: and be better than either one alone. Okay, but you know,
[1:39:10] Speaker 13: in any case, you know, you know you've got to do,
[1:39:14] Speaker 13: you know, for your quantum computer to win, it's got
[1:39:16] Speaker 13: to do better than the best that anyone can do without.
[1:39:19] Speaker 2: A quantum computer, got it right, right?
[1:39:21] Speaker 7: Work? Yeah?
[1:39:21] Speaker 13: But you know now, the other big application, the one
[1:39:25] Speaker 13: that really put quantum computing on the map for most
[1:39:27] Speaker 13: of the world, was this discovery thirty years ago by
[1:39:31] Speaker 13: Peter Shore that said that, you know, a quantum computer
[1:39:33] Speaker 13: could break most of the encryption that currently protects the Internet. Okay,
[1:39:38] Speaker 13: so you know, at anytime you order stuff from Amazon,
[1:39:41] Speaker 13: you know your credit card number is being protected by
[1:39:45] Speaker 13: a code that depends on the belief that certain problems
[1:39:49] Speaker 13: in number theory are hard, Okay, such as finding the
[1:39:52] Speaker 13: prime factors of a huge composite number, you know, with
[1:39:56] Speaker 13: thousands of digits.
[1:39:57] Speaker 5: Right.
[1:39:57] Speaker 13: So you know, so the magic of modern encryption is
[1:40:00] Speaker 13: that it all works without us having to pre agree,
[1:40:03] Speaker 13: you know, on a secret key.
[1:40:05] Speaker 11: Right.
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: Oh, so you're saying, once we get these quantum computers
[1:40:08] Speaker 1: up and running, it breaks everything that we know today, Well.
[1:40:11] Speaker 13: It breaks the public key encryption that we use today. Okay,
[1:40:16] Speaker 13: Now you gotta be careful because you know, we we
[1:40:18] Speaker 13: do know other methods of encryption. It seems secure even
[1:40:22] Speaker 13: against the quantum computer. They're not very widely used yet,
[1:40:26] Speaker 13: but there is right now a push to migrate already
[1:40:29] Speaker 13: to these quantum resistant methods of encryption, you know, in
[1:40:33] Speaker 13: order to prepare for whenever someone builds a quantum computer.
[1:40:36] Speaker 13: You know, it's almost like Y two K right, It's like,
[1:40:39] Speaker 13: you know, we we know that this is probably coming
[1:40:41] Speaker 13: at some point, right, so let's upgrade our security first.
[1:40:44] Speaker 1: But you know we're going to wait till the day
[1:40:46] Speaker 1: before it comes to do it. So yes, yes, Scott,
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: we got to leave it there. We're at a time,
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: Scott Aronson, best best place for people to find more
[1:40:54] Speaker 1: your website?
[1:40:55] Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I'm easy to find Scott Aaronson dot com.
[1:40:58] Speaker 1: All right, this was a great conver sation. So glad
[1:41:01] Speaker 1: to have had it, and I feel a lot smarter
[1:41:03] Speaker 1: about quantum computing. Thanks so much for being on the show.
[1:41:05] Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: All right, I'll put his website Scott Aaronson on my website.
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[1:42:11] Speaker 1: minibar that I did not use. Now, typically I'm against
[1:42:16] Speaker 1: the minibar because it's just highway robbery, Like it's a
[1:42:18] Speaker 1: total joke what they charge, and the prices just keep
[1:42:20] Speaker 1: going up. So Mexico City, I got a twenty dollars
[1:42:23] Speaker 1: charge for a tequila I never took. And don't don't
[1:42:26] Speaker 1: get me wrong, I was tempted, Like I saw those
[1:42:28] Speaker 1: tequilas in my room. I did not drink one, but yes,
[1:42:30] Speaker 1: I was tempted. It took me weeks to get that
[1:42:33] Speaker 1: charge reversed.
[1:42:34] Speaker 2: I get it.
[1:42:35] Speaker 1: It's twenty dollars. Oh Rich, not gonna make or break you.
[1:42:37] Speaker 1: It's the principle of it.
[1:42:38] Speaker 2: I didn't do it.
[1:42:39] Speaker 1: Why would I pay twenty dollars for something I didn't use?
[1:42:42] Speaker 1: Then I was at a hotel in Las Vegas. I'm
[1:42:44] Speaker 1: not gonna mention which one, but very per no, not
[1:42:49] Speaker 1: Parisian Italian themed.
[1:42:50] Speaker 2: Let's put it that way.
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: Sixty five dollars for a tiny bottle of vodka three
[1:42:57] Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five millileters MILLI leaders, yeah, sixty five
[1:43:00] Speaker 1: dollars plus tax. So on my bill, I was checking out,
[1:43:03] Speaker 1: and they do everything mobile. Now, by the way, if
[1:43:05] Speaker 1: you want to talk to someone as nearly impossible, so
[1:43:07] Speaker 1: it's all mobile. They'd say text you to say, hey, hope,
[1:43:10] Speaker 1: you had a great stay here, click here to check out.
[1:43:12] Speaker 2: And I was gonna do it, but then I looked
[1:43:13] Speaker 2: at my bill.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second, that's way more than I
[1:43:15] Speaker 1: thought it was going to be, And so I go
[1:43:16] Speaker 1: into the itemize and it's like you know, room charge, facility,
[1:43:20] Speaker 1: resort parking fee, resort fee, and then it's like convenience
[1:43:25] Speaker 1: refreshment bar. I'm like what, and so seventy dollars for
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: one thing, and so I was like ugh, and I
[1:43:31] Speaker 1: was trying to run to my car, so I'd stop
[1:43:32] Speaker 1: by the front desk and the front desk person is like, oh, yeah,
[1:43:36] Speaker 1: you had something for the mini bar.
[1:43:37] Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I didn't.
[1:43:39] Speaker 1: And so they were like, okay, well it takes us.
[1:43:41] Speaker 1: I say, can you take that off my bill? No,
[1:43:43] Speaker 1: we got to go verify, we got to go look
[1:43:45] Speaker 1: at your mini bar to make sure you didn't take this.
[1:43:47] Speaker 1: I go, well, let's do it right now.
[1:43:48] Speaker 2: I'm here. They go, no, no, it takes us three
[1:43:50] Speaker 2: days to do it. Three days.
[1:43:52] Speaker 1: Don't you think someone else is gonna check in that
[1:43:54] Speaker 1: room in the next three days. I go, not to
[1:43:56] Speaker 1: mention the fact your system made a mistake the first
[1:43:58] Speaker 1: time around. Now I'm expecting you to not make a
[1:44:00] Speaker 1: mistake the second time. And so they said, I said, well,
[1:44:03] Speaker 1: what time did I open the minibar? Because I was
[1:44:05] Speaker 1: gonna see if it was actually me or not, And
[1:44:07] Speaker 1: they knew the exact time one like they had it.
[1:44:11] Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's when I got in my room.
[1:44:12] Speaker 1: And I will admit, when I got in my room,
[1:44:14] Speaker 1: what are you doing? When you get in your room,
[1:44:16] Speaker 1: you kind of explore and you look around. I opened
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: the thing I saw the mini bar. I was like, oh,
[1:44:19] Speaker 1: And the reason I didn't touch anything, not that I
[1:44:21] Speaker 1: would ever would, but I looked for a pricing guide
[1:44:24] Speaker 1: around it, and there was no prices.
[1:44:25] Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not touching anything without a price.
[1:44:27] Speaker 1: You know, if it was like five bucks for a beer, fine,
[1:44:30] Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna, you know, open anything if it
[1:44:32] Speaker 1: wasn't you know. Anyway, long story short, just don't even
[1:44:36] Speaker 1: go near the mini bar anymore. With these automated systems
[1:44:38] Speaker 1: they have, they charge you instantly and once you're charged,
[1:44:41] Speaker 1: now it's like you got to fight to you know,
[1:44:43] Speaker 1: to get that off your your bill anyway, So that's
[1:44:47] Speaker 1: that's my no.
[1:44:48] Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm telling you that. Just be careful, uh.
[1:44:55] Speaker 1: I love that, Like it was one of these things
[1:44:57] Speaker 1: I just thought was gonna be easy and it just wasn't.
[1:45:00] Speaker 2: Not easy.
[1:45:00] Speaker 1: Like literally, the front desk person was like, They're like, no,
[1:45:03] Speaker 1: you're wrong until you're proven you're not guilty. I'm like, okay,
[1:45:07] Speaker 1: well I feel like it should be the opposite way,
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: but okay, and whatever happened to the customer always being right?
[1:45:12] Speaker 2: Now, I get it.
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: I am sure there is so much fraud in the minibar.
[1:45:15] Speaker 1: I guarantee every person that goes out of Vegas is like, oh,
[1:45:18] Speaker 1: I didn't touch the minibar. The whole thing is cleared out.
[1:45:21] Speaker 1: Yeah no, you didn't touch it. Okay, uh huh, but
[1:45:24] Speaker 1: I really didn't. I mean I was there for the
[1:45:25] Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz thing, and believe me again, yes I
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: was tempted, but without a price.
[1:45:30] Speaker 2: I'm not touching that.
[1:45:31] Speaker 13: No.
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: By the way, do you know how many tech problems
[1:45:36] Speaker 1: I'd solve in a week just by the people I'm around.
[1:45:39] Speaker 1: I wrote down four this week. This guy at work
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: comes up to me. He's like, Rich, I know you're
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: trying to, you know, head out, but my Facebook posts
[1:45:45] Speaker 1: starts shown up when I post him. I said what,
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: And I was like, let me see, and like, I
[1:45:50] Speaker 1: think I think the problem is you have two Facebook accounts,
[1:45:52] Speaker 1: one that you're posting from the other one you're checking
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: from on your computer. Is not the same account, and
[1:45:57] Speaker 1: sure enough I looked at his phone and computer, two
[1:45:58] Speaker 1: separate accounts.
[1:45:59] Speaker 2: How did I well?
[1:46:00] Speaker 1: His profile picture was different on each one. I said, dude,
[1:46:03] Speaker 1: you have a couple of accounts here. You got to
[1:46:05] Speaker 1: use just one.
[1:46:06] Speaker 2: That's how it works.
[1:46:08] Speaker 1: Family member couldn't hear anything on their calls, so I said, okay,
[1:46:13] Speaker 1: try speaker phone, check the earpiece. The volume was turned down.
[1:46:17] Speaker 1: Another family member, Oh, my bluetooth and my new car
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: isn't working. Well, did you pair your phone to your car?
[1:46:22] Speaker 4: No?
[1:46:23] Speaker 2: I didn't know you had to do that.
[1:46:24] Speaker 1: Yes, you have to pare your phone for your bluetooth
[1:46:26] Speaker 1: to work. Another family member, I can't make calls on
[1:46:29] Speaker 1: my phone for a week, nothing's working. Have you restarted
[1:46:32] Speaker 1: your phone? No, restart your phone? She called me back
[1:46:36] Speaker 1: second later.
[1:46:36] Speaker 2: Oh it works, Yes, it works.
[1:46:40] Speaker 5: Uh.
[1:46:41] Speaker 1: Michael writes in Hey, Rich, let the listeners know that
[1:46:43] Speaker 1: the CDIA expos trade only not open to the public.
[1:46:46] Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to your coverage along with mine for
[1:46:48] Speaker 1: residential tech today. Can't miss it. I'll be the can't
[1:46:51] Speaker 1: miss me. I'll be the one in the test pattern
[1:46:53] Speaker 1: jacket and tie. See you there, all right, Allison, Thanks
[1:46:57] Speaker 1: to your latest information on the meta Facebook use of
[1:46:59] Speaker 1: phone in likeness. I went and checked, and weirdly, my
[1:47:02] Speaker 1: toggle was on. I knew it for a fact. I
[1:47:05] Speaker 1: never turned it on. Now it's turned off, but I
[1:47:06] Speaker 1: had not seen your report. Gosh knows what had been
[1:47:08] Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. Thank you so much. Yes, Instagram,
[1:47:12] Speaker 1: rich on tech find that Facebook togg will turn it off.
[1:47:17] Speaker 2: Gerald.
[1:47:17] Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of your show and listen every weekend.
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: But I notice you rip Apple more than you praise them.
[1:47:21] Speaker 1: I know you're supposed to be objective, but it seems
[1:47:23] Speaker 1: obvious you prefer anything other than Apple.
[1:47:25] Speaker 7: Why is that?
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: Gerald, I can't believe this. In fifteen years of covering
[1:47:29] Speaker 1: iPhone and Android, you are the first person to say
[1:47:32] Speaker 1: that I'm too hard on Apple. Usually people accuse me
[1:47:35] Speaker 1: of being an Apple fanboy. So I think I'm doing
[1:47:37] Speaker 1: a pretty good job of staying balanced. And just for
[1:47:39] Speaker 1: the record, I have nothing against Apple. I wrote a
[1:47:41] Speaker 1: book about the iPhone. My job is just to keep
[1:47:44] Speaker 1: everything in perspective for the consumer, and I call Apple
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: good when I like it and bad when I don't.
[1:47:50] Speaker 1: Keith writes in I want you to mention how much
[1:47:52] Speaker 1: I appreciate your work in presenting technology. My wife and
[1:47:54] Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoy your podcasts and your TV clips. You
[1:47:57] Speaker 1: have a gift for explaining things well, and you make
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: everything very entertaining and enjoyable. I appreciate your humility and
[1:48:03] Speaker 1: how you mention your family.
[1:48:06] Speaker 2: Thank you. That's going to do it for this show.
[1:48:08] Speaker 1: Next week we're going to talk about making the most
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: of your points, and thank you so much for listening.
[1:48:12] Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible. My name
[1:48:14] Speaker 1: is rich Dmiro.
[1:48:15] Speaker 2: I will talk to you real soon.

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