# AI notebook hack, proving you’re human online & one phone for work and personal (130, July 19, 2025)

An episode of [Rich On Tech](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1120941458), 19 Jul 2025, 1 h 48 min.

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Rich talked about how to build an AI-powered notebook that can remember everything using a combination of Google Gemini and Google Keep. Brian in Orange County is trying to figure out how to transfer photos from his iPhone to an Android. Rich mentioned LocalSend and PairDrop. Were Nest cameras really hacked on May 28th? Rich explains. Google has set a date for the unveiling of its next Pixels on August 20th in New York City. Herb In San Diego wants to know how to get his answering machine to work with his AT&T digital phone. Rich says voicemail is likely included with the line and needs to be setup. Darren asks how to transcribe Zoom calls in real-time like subtitles. Rich said to use the live transcription feature built into Zoom? Dave in Littleton, Colorado wants to know how to free up space on his computer. Rich recommends Disk Cleanup, Storage Sense and BleachBit. Nest is raising prices. So is Peacock. Barbara is switching from AT&T to US Mobile and wants to know if she should stick with her iPhone or get an Android. Adrian Ludwig, chief architect at Tools for Humanity, will explain how World Network is building a more private and secure way to prove you’re human online — and why that matters. Kenneth in Hollywood is looking for a way to use one cell phone for his personal and business calls. Rich mentioned Grasshopper and RingCentral and Google Voice. Wayne wants to know how to have his Android phone read his text messages out loud. Rich recommended Read my text messages app and pay $1.99 to get rid of ads. Apple launched a new emoji game in Apple News+. Logan Seacrest, fellow at the R Street Institute, will discuss how AI is being used in police body cameras. Bitcoin hits all-time highs. Rich has been playing Donkey Kong Bonanza on the Switch too, and it is a smashingly fun time. If you get a suspicious email, you can forward it to this website: scan at snitcher.space And it will give you a little report of if it's bogus or not. Chrome now lets you move the address bar to the bottom of the screen on Android. Rich's kids talked about the popularity of Grow A Garden on Roblox and Steve's Lava Chicken reversed viral video. Rich DeMuro brings you the latest tech news, helpful tips, gadget reviews, and more—plus interviews with industry experts—all in this weekly show. Call 1-888-RICH-101 (1-888-742-4101) to join in! Email your question here. How to Listen: 🎙️ Live on KFI AM 640 – Los Angeles, Saturdays from 11 AM – 2 PM PT 🎙️ Rebroadcast on 710 WOR – New York City, Sundays from 8 PM – 11 PM ET 📻 Syndicated on affiliates nationwide Get the podcast to via RSS, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Follow Rich on X, Instagram and Facebook. Download the MP3 here (choose episode, then scroll to bottom of page and look for ”Download”) Paid newsletter subscribers get ad-free, HQ audio here. Referral links for services I like. Amazon storefront for products I like. RichOnTech.tv Links may be affiliate. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Mercedes lets you take video calls in your car. Nest
[0:04] Speaker 1: and Peacock are raising prices, Apple launches an emoji puzzle game.
[0:10] Speaker 1: Plus your tech questions answered. What's going on? I'm Rich
[0:14] Speaker 1: Demiro and this is Rich on Tech. This is the
[0:18] Speaker 1: show where I talk about the tech stuff I think
[0:20] Speaker 1: you should know about. It's also the place right I
[0:22] Speaker 1: answer your questions about technology. I believe that tech should
[0:26] Speaker 1: be interesting, useful, and fun. Let's open up those phone
[0:30] Speaker 1: lines at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight
[0:33] Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one
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[0:41] Speaker 1: Give me a call if you have a question about technology.
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[0:55] Speaker 1: stuff I talk about on the show as well in
[0:57] Speaker 1: the notes. Guests. This week we've we've got Adrian Ludwig,
[1:01] Speaker 1: chief architect at Tools for Humanity. They're gonna explain how
[1:06] Speaker 1: World Network is building a more private and secure way
[1:10] Speaker 1: to prove that you are human online and why that matters.
[1:14] Speaker 1: Then later in the show, we've got Logan Seacrest, fellow
[1:17] Speaker 1: at the r. Street Institute to discuss how AI is
[1:21] Speaker 1: being used in police body cameras. Well. I hope you're
[1:25] Speaker 1: having a fantastic weekend. We are well into the summer,
[1:29] Speaker 1: the kids are off from school. In fact, I've got
[1:31] Speaker 1: them right here with me, my kids joining me in
[1:34] Speaker 1: the studio. I guess they can't really say high because
[1:37] Speaker 1: they're not can you say high?
[1:38] Speaker 2: Or the hello?
[1:38] Speaker 1: Oh there you go? Okay, we've got Parker. Go ahead, Tanner.
[1:44] Speaker 1: We've got Parker and Tanner in the studio. Very exciting.
[1:48] Speaker 1: Tanner is actually in charge of this week's playlist, so
[1:51] Speaker 1: direct all comments about the songs to him. This week,
[1:55] Speaker 1: I've been testing Samsung's new foldable phones, so I've been
[1:58] Speaker 1: playing with the Flip seven and the Fold seven. I
[2:01] Speaker 1: also tried my first ever Wiener Schnitzel. If you've ever
[2:05] Speaker 1: heard of that. It's a Southern California I guess they
[2:08] Speaker 1: started in Southern California chain hot dog chain, and I
[2:11] Speaker 1: did try the chili cheese dog there, and well there
[2:14] Speaker 1: was a reason for it. They're using AI at the
[2:16] Speaker 1: drive through. So that's why I was there, not just
[2:18] Speaker 1: because I'm telling you that. I also shot that on
[2:21] Speaker 1: the Fold seven so you can see that picture. I
[2:24] Speaker 1: posted that picture to my Facebook not knowing you know,
[2:27] Speaker 1: what people would think about it, and the thing like
[2:28] Speaker 1: goes viral. It's like just a hot dog. Who would
[2:32] Speaker 1: have thought. Also, this week, I've been playing a lot
[2:35] Speaker 1: with Gemini because Gemini is built into the Samsung phones.
[2:39] Speaker 1: So I will tell you I am very impressed with Gemini.
[2:43] Speaker 1: There is a lot that that AI can do, especially
[2:45] Speaker 1: because of the Google integration. But I will tell you
[2:48] Speaker 1: at one point I did try to replace my old
[2:51] Speaker 1: favorite CHATCHBT with Gemini for everything, and I'll be honest,
[2:56] Speaker 1: I couldn't. Chatchibt still feels faster and more intuitive, like
[3:00] Speaker 1: just feels like a superhuman companion to me, whereas Gemini
[3:04] Speaker 1: really shines with like tech, current news, and also pulling
[3:08] Speaker 1: from your Gmail, your calendar, your drive, all of your
[3:11] Speaker 1: Google services. And I'll get into why that's so important
[3:14] Speaker 1: in a moment. But then my thoughts on these foldables
[3:17] Speaker 1: from Samsung, so number one, the fold seven, like I
[3:20] Speaker 1: said earlier, finally has a usable front screen, very practical.
[3:25] Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I'm using this phone which opens
[3:28] Speaker 1: up like a book, and it's great, but I just
[3:31] Speaker 1: don't understand why I need a tablet in my pocket
[3:33] Speaker 1: at all times. Maybe I just don't have the use
[3:36] Speaker 1: case scenario. I love to read things on my phone.
[3:38] Speaker 1: I like to watch videos on my phone, But I'm
[3:40] Speaker 1: not sure why I need to carry a phone that
[3:42] Speaker 1: is not as good as a standard phone at all times.
[3:46] Speaker 1: Just for those couple of times when I need a tablet,
[3:48] Speaker 1: I'd rather just carry a tablet. Now, the Flip seven,
[3:51] Speaker 1: this is the one that opens up like a clamshell,
[3:53] Speaker 1: I will tell you is much more appealing. And why
[3:56] Speaker 1: because you can use the rear cameras for all of
[4:00] Speaker 1: your photos and videos. What does that mean? You're always
[4:03] Speaker 1: taking your photos and videos, including your selfies, with the
[4:06] Speaker 1: best cameras on that device, because you can use the
[4:09] Speaker 1: front screen as a monitor. So right now we record
[4:13] Speaker 1: the first ten minutes of the show to be played
[4:15] Speaker 1: on KTLA plus, the streaming app, And right now I
[4:18] Speaker 1: can actually see myself I'm waving in the front screen
[4:22] Speaker 1: of the Flip seven, which is really cool, and so
[4:25] Speaker 1: that makes it actually very useful. It's perfect for content creators.
[4:29] Speaker 1: But here's my question. Would that be enough for the
[4:32] Speaker 1: average iPhone user to switch? I'm not sure I'm just
[4:36] Speaker 1: giving you a grab bag this morning. You're getting a
[4:38] Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. I also watched a movie on
[4:41] Speaker 1: Prime called Heads of State, which I started on my
[4:44] Speaker 1: way back from London, and I finished it last night,
[4:47] Speaker 1: and I got to tell you, if you have Prime Video,
[4:49] Speaker 1: fun action packed way better than I expected. And I
[4:53] Speaker 1: got to say, Prime Video might be my favorite streaming
[4:56] Speaker 1: service right now, just because I can load it up
[4:59] Speaker 1: on as many apps and devices that I'm testing and
[5:03] Speaker 1: it doesn't say sorry, you can't watch stuff like Netflix.
[5:06] Speaker 1: I don't even install my devices anymore because too many
[5:09] Speaker 1: people in my family are using it and so I,
[5:11] Speaker 1: the one who pays for it, can't use it. Also, ironically,
[5:15] Speaker 1: when I was in London, they had Marine one on
[5:18] Speaker 1: the waterfront there and that was a promo for the
[5:21] Speaker 1: Heads of State film, So I never even heard of
[5:22] Speaker 1: it until I saw that, and that's what made me
[5:24] Speaker 1: watch it all right. So this week I got very
[5:28] Speaker 1: obsessed with this idea of building an AI powered notebook,
[5:31] Speaker 1: and because I was using Gemini, because I had Gemini
[5:34] Speaker 1: on my wrist with the Samsung Watch, I was like,
[5:38] Speaker 1: I wonder if I can capture ideas quote gift ideas,
[5:42] Speaker 1: the funny things my kids say all in this notebook
[5:45] Speaker 1: that could be searchable later, and I figured out through
[5:49] Speaker 1: the magic of Gemini and Google Keep, you can do
[5:52] Speaker 1: this and it's basically free. So think about this. You're
[5:57] Speaker 1: out and about. You want your phone to remember something,
[5:59] Speaker 1: you want this notebook to remember something. All you have
[6:02] Speaker 1: to do is say to Gemini, you know, hey, Google,
[6:04] Speaker 1: take a note that my locker code is twelve twenty
[6:07] Speaker 1: five thirty two, and it will make a note in
[6:11] Speaker 1: Google Keep and remember that. And then later all you
[6:14] Speaker 1: have to do is say, you know, hey Gemini or
[6:17] Speaker 1: hey Google, check my notes for my locker code, and
[6:20] Speaker 1: it will go into those notes and search and read
[6:23] Speaker 1: it back to you and say, here's your locker code. Now,
[6:27] Speaker 1: think about the powerful nature of that. You can use
[6:29] Speaker 1: that to build a basically a memory system for anything
[6:34] Speaker 1: that you're coming across in your week. And I'm sure
[6:36] Speaker 1: you probably already email yourself little notes or write down
[6:39] Speaker 1: little notes in your phone, but to have it all
[6:42] Speaker 1: voice activated is very powerful. And the fact that it's
[6:46] Speaker 1: AI makes it very useful because it doesn't have to
[6:50] Speaker 1: be the perfect syntax like most of us with voice
[6:53] Speaker 1: commands in the past, you had to know how to
[6:56] Speaker 1: use them. And with this, because it's AI, it can
[6:59] Speaker 1: really understand and a whole lot of things. So, for instance,
[7:02] Speaker 1: I've got notes about people that I meet right like,
[7:05] Speaker 1: I might say, remember that this person's name or this
[7:08] Speaker 1: person's spouse's name is, you know whatever. Remember that their
[7:12] Speaker 1: kids are four and seven and one of them goes
[7:14] Speaker 1: to this school and one of them likes this. Oh,
[7:17] Speaker 1: remember that I want to get a gift for that
[7:18] Speaker 1: person for Christmas, and it's going to be this. And
[7:21] Speaker 1: so you can ask Gemini later, Hey, tell me everything
[7:25] Speaker 1: I know about that person and say the person's name,
[7:27] Speaker 1: and it will give you a synopsis of everything that
[7:30] Speaker 1: you've put in your notes. Now, I've done this with
[7:33] Speaker 1: my kids with the little funny things they say. And
[7:35] Speaker 1: so I've got all these little quotes throughout the years
[7:38] Speaker 1: that my kids have said, and I could just ask
[7:40] Speaker 1: jem and I hate Gemini check my notes and tell
[7:43] Speaker 1: me some of the funny things my kids have said
[7:45] Speaker 1: over the years, and it will just rattle off a
[7:47] Speaker 1: bunch of those things. So again, this works with Google Calendar,
[7:51] Speaker 1: Gmail photos, drive tasks, and the trick is if you okay,
[7:58] Speaker 1: So here's the thing I've realized about this whole system
[8:01] Speaker 1: with the AI, AI is always going to default to
[8:04] Speaker 1: sort of like the whole world at large. Like if
[8:06] Speaker 1: you said, you know, what's the capital of Utah, it
[8:11] Speaker 1: would just search the web and find that for you,
[8:14] Speaker 1: or search it knowledge base. But if you wanted your
[8:16] Speaker 1: personal data, you have to preface it with check my
[8:20] Speaker 1: calendar for when I'm going to Utah, or check my
[8:23] Speaker 1: Gmail for information I have gotten about Utah, or check
[8:27] Speaker 1: my photos for the best picture I've taken in Utah.
[8:32] Speaker 1: That's how you get it to look into your data.
[8:35] Speaker 1: It's a very important differentiation because if you just say
[8:38] Speaker 1: what's my locker code, Gemini is not going to know.
[8:41] Speaker 1: You have to say, check my notes for my locker code.
[8:44] Speaker 1: And that's really the trick. So my homework for you
[8:48] Speaker 1: is to start adding a few notes to Google Keep,
[8:51] Speaker 1: gift ideas, favorite places you've been, whatever you want, and
[8:54] Speaker 1: then just start getting into the habit of asking Gemini
[8:58] Speaker 1: to retrieve that information or see And by the way,
[9:01] Speaker 1: you can paste information into Google Keep as well. You
[9:04] Speaker 1: don't have to use your voice to save it all.
[9:06] Speaker 1: You can actually go on on your computer. Like the
[9:08] Speaker 1: other day, I just dumped a whole bunch of notes
[9:10] Speaker 1: into there so that I can retrieve them later. And
[9:14] Speaker 1: this is I feel like this is really powerful. It
[9:18] Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of what Apple promised us with Siri,
[9:22] Speaker 1: because when Siri, the AI version of Siri, was supposed
[9:25] Speaker 1: to come out this Apple Intelligence, Apple on stage promised
[9:29] Speaker 1: us the ability to search in our email, to search
[9:32] Speaker 1: in our calendar, to search in our notes, to use
[9:35] Speaker 1: all of that rich data that's on our iPhone and
[9:37] Speaker 1: have it at our fingertips, all indexed and searchable and
[9:42] Speaker 1: available through AI. That never came to fruition on the iPhone,
[9:46] Speaker 1: and Apple has admitted that it's been tougher than they
[9:49] Speaker 1: thought to do this, and it's probably going to be
[9:51] Speaker 1: delayed in the next year or so. But you can
[9:54] Speaker 1: have this right now. And so I'm just telling you
[9:57] Speaker 1: Gemini plus all the Google stuff that you're already using.
[10:00] Speaker 1: And by the way, this works on the iPhone, this
[10:02] Speaker 1: works on Android. This is platform agnostic. It's a little
[10:06] Speaker 1: bit easier to access on Android because your power button
[10:09] Speaker 1: calls up Gemini instantly, but on the iPhone, you can
[10:12] Speaker 1: activate Gemini through the app, through a widget, or through
[10:16] Speaker 1: the action button. As well, so really really cool system.
[10:20] Speaker 1: I am loving it, and I feel like I am
[10:21] Speaker 1: a little bit more superhuman because of what I've created here,
[10:25] Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna keep this going. All right, Let's
[10:28] Speaker 1: take some of your calls eight eight eight rich one
[10:30] Speaker 1: oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four
[10:33] Speaker 1: one zero one. That's the phone line that'll get you
[10:35] Speaker 1: into Kim. We've got Parker, We've got Tanner, We've got Bobo.
[10:38] Speaker 1: We've got a full house here in the rich On
[10:41] Speaker 1: Tech Studio, and we'll have some of your calls coming
[10:44] Speaker 1: up next. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro
[10:50] Speaker 1: here hanging out with you, talking technology at triple eight
[10:54] Speaker 1: rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four
[10:58] Speaker 1: to two four one zero one one. You ever start
[11:01] Speaker 1: watching a movie and just like can care less about it?
[11:04] Speaker 1: This has happened to me, Like last night, sit down,
[11:06] Speaker 1: I watch this movie called Drop. It's like it's literally
[11:10] Speaker 1: a movie about air drop, like murdering someone like through
[11:14] Speaker 1: air drop. Like what I don't know. I mean, maybe
[11:18] Speaker 1: I should have given it more time, but I it's
[11:21] Speaker 1: like when you're like forty minutes into a movie and
[11:23] Speaker 1: you don't care about the people in the movie. You
[11:25] Speaker 1: don't care what happens in the movie. It's like, you
[11:28] Speaker 1: gotta give up on the movie. I don't know how
[11:29] Speaker 1: this is the number one movie right now on streaming.
[11:32] Speaker 1: I'm convinced that people stream whatever's on that top ten list,
[11:36] Speaker 1: no matter how bad it is. Although this does get
[11:39] Speaker 1: eighty four percent of Rotten Tomatoes, so maybe I have
[11:41] Speaker 1: to give it another chance. But the whole movie takes
[11:43] Speaker 1: place in one place and this girl is getting like
[11:46] Speaker 1: air drops that are like threatening her life, and it's like,
[11:49] Speaker 1: come on, really, it just it was so unrealistic there.
[11:53] Speaker 1: It's just I don't know. I really I couldn't get
[11:55] Speaker 1: into it. But if you like it, let me know
[11:57] Speaker 1: you can. You can challenge me on the website. Rich
[11:59] Speaker 1: on Tech TV. All right, let's go to our first
[12:02] Speaker 1: caller line one, Tanner Brian. You're on with Rich.
[12:08] Speaker 3: Hey, Rich, nice to hear you same.
[12:11] Speaker 1: What can I help you with?
[12:13] Speaker 3: I have Okay, let me give you a little background.
[12:16] Speaker 3: I have an iPhone sixteen E okay, and I have
[12:23] Speaker 3: a new Abama phone. The company is called Max West.
[12:30] Speaker 4: Okay, I cannot transfer.
[12:33] Speaker 3: I was able to transfer some of my information from
[12:36] Speaker 3: the the iPhone to this phone. But it won't do
[12:40] Speaker 3: any photos. I'm gonna lose my photos.
[12:44] Speaker 1: Okay, So you're trying to get the photos from the
[12:46] Speaker 1: iPhone to this This is an Android phone, I'm guessing right.
[12:50] Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's a it's a newer version of the
[12:53] Speaker 3: Obama phone.
[12:54] Speaker 1: Okay, what did you have a model number on it?
[12:57] Speaker 1: I'm just curious, shoot a model? No it doesn't, I
[13:03] Speaker 1: mean it doesn't. I'm just curious. I looked up the
[13:04] Speaker 1: website Max West. Okay, Max West. It's the first I'm
[13:08] Speaker 1: hearing of this brand. Well, there are many How many
[13:11] Speaker 1: pictures do you have on the iPhone that you want
[13:13] Speaker 1: to transfer?
[13:15] Speaker 2: Like literally like ten?
[13:16] Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, super super easy. Can you install apps on
[13:20] Speaker 1: the Max West Yes?
[13:22] Speaker 4: I can.
[13:23] Speaker 1: Okay. So the app that you want to get is
[13:26] Speaker 1: called Local Send l O C A L S E
[13:29] Speaker 1: N D and Mobile Mobile Scent Local Send o Local okay,
[13:37] Speaker 1: Local Scent. And it works across everything. It'll work on
[13:40] Speaker 1: the iPhone, it'll work on Android, it'll work on your
[13:44] Speaker 1: Mac computer, it'll work on Windows, it'll work on Linux
[13:47] Speaker 1: if you like Linux. Okay. And basically, you install this
[13:51] Speaker 1: app on your iPhone and you install it on the Android,
[13:54] Speaker 1: you open it up. As long as they are on
[13:56] Speaker 1: the same Wi Fi network, they will find each other
[13:59] Speaker 1: and you can transfer.
[14:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I did it. Actually, I was able
[14:04] Speaker 3: to link up. I'm here in Brea, so I was
[14:06] Speaker 3: able to link my phones up at the Bran mall.
[14:09] Speaker 5: Okay, but for some reason it just.
[14:12] Speaker 3: Didn't want to it didn't want to download the photos.
[14:15] Speaker 3: So you said it's called wet again.
[14:17] Speaker 1: Local send is the is the app local okay, localsend
[14:21] Speaker 1: dot org. Now, if you don't want to use local send,
[14:23] Speaker 1: there's another way you can do it. Uh, there's if
[14:25] Speaker 1: you don't want to download software. If that's too complicated,
[14:28] Speaker 1: you can go to what's called pair drop P A
[14:31] Speaker 1: I R D R O P pair drop dot net
[14:35] Speaker 1: and that does not require a software download, same exact thing.
[14:39] Speaker 1: And so it's it's funny that I mentioned air drop
[14:41] Speaker 1: and that movie drop, because that's basically what I'm talking
[14:44] Speaker 1: about here. These are all just versions of air drop
[14:46] Speaker 1: that work across devices. The big trick is that the
[14:50] Speaker 1: devices have to be on the same network for them
[14:53] Speaker 1: to work. So the way that air drop and why
[14:55] Speaker 1: that's so convenient on the iPhone is that it basically
[14:58] Speaker 1: creates what's called an ad hawk network between those two phones,
[15:03] Speaker 1: so every single iPhone that's near every other iPhone in
[15:06] Speaker 1: the world can talk to each other without a cellular network.
[15:10] Speaker 1: And so what they do is they say, Oh, I
[15:12] Speaker 1: see another iPhone over there, do you want to connect
[15:14] Speaker 1: directly to that phone. That's really what airdrop is doing.
[15:17] Speaker 1: And the way it's sort of parsing through those other
[15:19] Speaker 1: phones is that you know, nowadays you have to be
[15:22] Speaker 1: connected to that other phone. It used to be a
[15:24] Speaker 1: lot easier to sort of air drop other people. That's
[15:28] Speaker 1: why they change that setting. If you go into your
[15:30] Speaker 1: air drop settings, you'll notice that now it says everyone
[15:34] Speaker 1: for ten minutes, whereas it used to just say everyone
[15:37] Speaker 1: because people would get on an airplane and they would
[15:40] Speaker 1: air drop random people, pictures and things like that, which
[15:43] Speaker 1: I've done in the past just to be funny. But
[15:45] Speaker 1: now I wouldn't do that because too many security issues
[15:47] Speaker 1: with that. They've stopped. They've like they've like turned planes
[15:50] Speaker 1: around because of that antics. You can't do that anymore.
[15:53] Speaker 1: But anyway, so these these apps they kind of do
[15:55] Speaker 1: the same thing, except the problem is inherently iPhones do
[16:00] Speaker 1: not speak to androids ad hoc So that means that
[16:04] Speaker 1: iPhone may be able to see that there's an Android nearby,
[16:07] Speaker 1: and Android can certainly see that there's an iPhone nearby,
[16:09] Speaker 1: but there's not a good protocol for those two phones
[16:12] Speaker 1: to connect and link up the way air drop does
[16:14] Speaker 1: between iPhones. Now, on Android, there is something called quick
[16:19] Speaker 1: Share and that is the same exact thing as air drop,
[16:23] Speaker 1: but that is just for androids. So any Android can
[16:26] Speaker 1: also connect to another Android without any additional software, with
[16:29] Speaker 1: something called quick Share, and that is built into every
[16:32] Speaker 1: modern Android phone. The thing is, and I'll be honest,
[16:35] Speaker 1: this is an Apple issue. Apple does not want to
[16:39] Speaker 1: open up air drop to androids. Whereas Android would gladly
[16:43] Speaker 1: open up quick Share to iPhone, Apple does not allow that.
[16:47] Speaker 1: That's really what's going on here is that Apple is
[16:50] Speaker 1: very proprietary with their air drop system and they do
[16:54] Speaker 1: not want to open it up, nor do they want
[16:56] Speaker 1: to make it easy for androids to send things to
[16:59] Speaker 1: the iPhone. So that's how those two apps will get
[17:01] Speaker 1: around it. You gotta be on the same Wi Fi
[17:03] Speaker 1: network local send and pair drop. Check them out, all right?
[17:06] Speaker 1: Coming up, where ring cameras really hacked. I'll explain what's
[17:11] Speaker 1: going on there, plus more of your calls at eight
[17:12] Speaker 1: eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven
[17:15] Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. This is rich
[17:18] Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro
[17:23] Speaker 1: here hanging out with you talking technology at triple eight
[17:26] Speaker 1: rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to
[17:30] Speaker 1: two four one zero one, the website rich on Tech
[17:34] Speaker 1: dot TV. Hope you're having a great day. I am
[17:38] Speaker 1: getting into the summer here. Summer's like halfway through, which
[17:41] Speaker 1: I can't believe. So one thing I love about you, know,
[17:46] Speaker 1: being on TV, being on the radio, is that you
[17:49] Speaker 1: are my eyes and ears. Now I cover a lot
[17:51] Speaker 1: of stuff. I track a lot of stuff, but I
[17:53] Speaker 1: can't see everything in real time all the time. And
[17:56] Speaker 1: that's where you come in. And so when something happens,
[17:59] Speaker 1: when there is something that's bubbling up, I call it
[18:02] Speaker 1: a text message scam that's new, a viral video about
[18:07] Speaker 1: something in the tech world, an email that people are getting.
[18:11] Speaker 1: When a lot of people get that, they turn to
[18:13] Speaker 1: me and they forward that information to me or they
[18:16] Speaker 1: message me and say, hey, rich what's the deal with this?
[18:18] Speaker 1: And sometimes it's really tough because I'm getting it so
[18:21] Speaker 1: early that there's nothing about it. So you can't search
[18:26] Speaker 1: Google News for the information, you can't go anywhere for
[18:28] Speaker 1: the information. It's something that's brand new, and so I
[18:31] Speaker 1: have to use my spidy sense to kind of just
[18:34] Speaker 1: search it and figure it out and say, Okay, what's
[18:36] Speaker 1: going on here. I've gotten five emails about this. Clearly
[18:39] Speaker 1: this is happening to a lot of people. Well, that's
[18:42] Speaker 1: what happened the other day. I woke up to a
[18:43] Speaker 1: bunch of people saying, Rich, what's the deal with Ring
[18:46] Speaker 1: being hacked? Ring was hacked on May twenty eighth, and
[18:49] Speaker 1: if you log into your account, you can see that
[18:52] Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people logged in to these various accounts.
[18:55] Speaker 1: I said, wait, what that sounds a little weird. And
[18:58] Speaker 1: the reason it sounded weird because Ring has had two
[19:01] Speaker 1: factor authentication now for four years. They did have an
[19:05] Speaker 1: issue many years ago where people were able to get
[19:09] Speaker 1: into cameras because people were not setting very good passwords.
[19:14] Speaker 1: And so when your password is password one, two, three,
[19:16] Speaker 1: guess what, the hackers are going to figure that out
[19:18] Speaker 1: pretty quickly. And so there was kind of a rash
[19:21] Speaker 1: of nationwide people not necessarily scam artists, but they were
[19:27] Speaker 1: just kind of having fun with people with their Ring cameras.
[19:29] Speaker 1: You know, they'd log in and they would talk to
[19:31] Speaker 1: the people in their houses, and of course they could
[19:33] Speaker 1: access things. And so Ring tracked it down. They said,
[19:36] Speaker 1: these aren't really hacks per se, but people are just
[19:39] Speaker 1: using really bad passwords that people are guessing or they're
[19:42] Speaker 1: sharing them, or they're the same password online, and so
[19:45] Speaker 1: people were using those to log in. So Ring said,
[19:47] Speaker 1: you know what, from here on out, everyone must have
[19:51] Speaker 1: two factor authentication. And if you're familiar with what that is,
[19:54] Speaker 1: that means when you log into a website, it doesn't
[19:56] Speaker 1: just log you in. It says, okay, we've texted you
[19:59] Speaker 1: a code or you've emailed you a code. Now you
[20:01] Speaker 1: have to enter that. And so Ring made that the default,
[20:04] Speaker 1: and that cracked down on all of that stuff because
[20:06] Speaker 1: now the hacker would have to have your your silly
[20:09] Speaker 1: password and access to your email, your text. Well anyway,
[20:13] Speaker 1: so that was in the back of my mind. But
[20:14] Speaker 1: this TikTok user and this you know, these things always
[20:17] Speaker 1: start on TikTok. Somehow, all the best reporters in the
[20:21] Speaker 1: world are some random person talking to their phone in
[20:25] Speaker 1: their basement on TikTok. And that gets that gets spread.
[20:31] Speaker 1: This video had millions of views. It was some person
[20:35] Speaker 1: that was like, look, go to your Ring account, check
[20:39] Speaker 1: your logins, check your authorized devices. If you see a
[20:42] Speaker 1: May twenty eighth login, someone's been watching your videos. Now
[20:46] Speaker 1: come on. I was like, give me a break, but
[20:49] Speaker 1: we'll hear her out. And she also said she got
[20:52] Speaker 1: weird creepy texts after people were watching her private conversations
[20:56] Speaker 1: on her Ring camera. That part I couldn't figure out.
[20:58] Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from. But if you
[21:01] Speaker 1: log into your Ring account and you go under the
[21:04] Speaker 1: authorized devices, and you could probably try this. If you
[21:07] Speaker 1: open up your Ring app, go to the left hand side.
[21:10] Speaker 1: You've got those three lines that's your menu. Tap that
[21:13] Speaker 1: go to control center. Oh, I tapped the wrong thing.
[21:15] Speaker 1: I tapped account settings. Now I can't go back. Okay,
[21:20] Speaker 1: tap the three lines, tap control center, and then you'll
[21:24] Speaker 1: see something that says authorized devices. Okay, authorized client devices.
[21:29] Speaker 1: If I tap there, I've got a whole bunch of
[21:31] Speaker 1: devices that seemingly logged in on May twenty eighth, and
[21:35] Speaker 1: iPhone seven plus logged in on May twenty eighth, twenty
[21:39] Speaker 1: twenty five. Now I have not used an iPhone seven
[21:41] Speaker 1: in about let's say ten years. So how did that
[21:44] Speaker 1: log in? On May twenty eight, twenty twenty five. So
[21:46] Speaker 1: if you're just a regular person seeing that, after you
[21:49] Speaker 1: watch the TikTok video, you go, oh, my gosh, Ring
[21:51] Speaker 1: was hack. Someone got into my account. Okay, So what
[21:55] Speaker 1: I did? Instead of just spreading this information and you know,
[21:59] Speaker 1: making everyone one scared about it, I emailed my contact
[22:03] Speaker 1: at RING and I said, hey, can you give me
[22:06] Speaker 1: the information about this? Can you give me what's going
[22:08] Speaker 1: on here? And sure enough they got back to me
[22:10] Speaker 1: within a couple hours and they said, here's the deal,
[22:13] Speaker 1: and here is their statement. We are aware of a
[22:17] Speaker 1: bug that resulted in prior login dates for client devices
[22:21] Speaker 1: to be incorrectly displayed as May twenty eighth, twenty twenty five,
[22:26] Speaker 1: and device names to be incorrectly displayed as device name
[22:29] Speaker 1: not found. This was a result of a back end
[22:32] Speaker 1: update not caused by unauthorized access to customer accounts. So basically,
[22:37] Speaker 1: the bug made old logins look new, confusing users into
[22:41] Speaker 1: thinking they were hacked. Okay, you can rest easy, but
[22:45] Speaker 1: of course this is the Internet, and what do you
[22:48] Speaker 1: think happens? The conspiracy theorists start to chime in and say, oh,
[22:52] Speaker 1: come on, Rich Ring is just covering this up. If
[22:55] Speaker 1: you think that millions of Ring cameras are being watched
[22:58] Speaker 1: by someone right now, it's just not happening. It's just
[23:02] Speaker 1: not like this is This is a huge company with
[23:05] Speaker 1: millions of people as customers. Someone would to figure this
[23:08] Speaker 1: out if this was really happening. So my point is
[23:12] Speaker 1: in all this, when you see stuff online that just
[23:16] Speaker 1: seems crazy and outlandish, of course you should think about
[23:20] Speaker 1: it and process it, but also think about the realistic
[23:23] Speaker 1: nature of it. Let me give you another example before
[23:25] Speaker 1: I get to my conclusion on this. I was, you know,
[23:28] Speaker 1: I don't really scroll through a lot of TikTok, but
[23:30] Speaker 1: sometimes I do. It just angers me because it's just
[23:33] Speaker 1: it's all so much nonsense and misinformation about especially tech
[23:37] Speaker 1: things one privacy control you should really change. And it's
[23:40] Speaker 1: just like they're giving you these un based facts or
[23:44] Speaker 1: you know, speculation and things that they want you to
[23:47] Speaker 1: do without any actual knowledge. Like when I tell you
[23:50] Speaker 1: to change a setting, I give you the reason why.
[23:53] Speaker 1: I don't just say, oh, this looks like a bad
[23:55] Speaker 1: setting on your phone, change it without explaining the why.
[23:58] Speaker 1: So one time I was scrolling through and there was
[24:00] Speaker 1: a whole bunch of videos about how if you cut
[24:03] Speaker 1: open an iPhone box there was a secret case for
[24:06] Speaker 1: your iPhone in that box. Now, I have been getting
[24:09] Speaker 1: iPhone for the past, you know, since day one, two
[24:12] Speaker 1: thousand and seven. I don't remember there ever being a
[24:15] Speaker 1: case included in the iPhone. Now some manufacturers do actually
[24:18] Speaker 1: include a case. So what did I do After scrolling
[24:22] Speaker 1: through about fifteen of these videos and seeing fifteen people
[24:25] Speaker 1: open up an iPhone case with an Exacto knife and
[24:27] Speaker 1: finding a plastic case in there, plastic you know, protector
[24:32] Speaker 1: in there. I went and got an old iPhone case
[24:36] Speaker 1: out of my closet and I said, let me see
[24:38] Speaker 1: what's happening here. And I took an Exacto knife and
[24:41] Speaker 1: I cut it open. And I was sitting there laughing
[24:43] Speaker 1: to myself, going, Rich this is this is not true.
[24:46] Speaker 1: I know this is not true, but maybe it is.
[24:48] Speaker 1: There is a little space inside the iPhone box that
[24:50] Speaker 1: feels like it could have something in there, and I
[24:52] Speaker 1: opened it up and sure enough, nothing in there. So
[24:54] Speaker 1: what were these people doing on TikTok? They were literally
[24:57] Speaker 1: making this up, like faking it and I just laughed
[25:02] Speaker 1: and I said, Okay, this is why you can't believe
[25:03] Speaker 1: anything you see anymore. So anyway, my solution with this
[25:08] Speaker 1: Ring stuff, it does seem to be a bug unless
[25:11] Speaker 1: someone comes out and proves that it's not. But I
[25:14] Speaker 1: would say, you can go into your Ring Control center
[25:17] Speaker 1: the list of authorized client devices, and you can go
[25:20] Speaker 1: through and delete all the old devices that have access
[25:24] Speaker 1: to your account, like if you've given you know, if
[25:25] Speaker 1: you've changed phones, if you've switched logins, if you have
[25:29] Speaker 1: a friend or family member that you gave access to,
[25:31] Speaker 1: you can just delete those. Now. For me, as a
[25:33] Speaker 1: tech reporter that has been covering phones for the past
[25:36] Speaker 1: fifteen years, guess how many phones I have logged into
[25:38] Speaker 1: my Ring account. Probably over one hundred maybe more. And
[25:42] Speaker 1: so I started going through deleting some of these and
[25:46] Speaker 1: it's just it just ten more pop up. It's like
[25:48] Speaker 1: a game of whack themle for me. So that's just
[25:51] Speaker 1: not going to happen. But anyway, I made a video
[25:53] Speaker 1: about this at rich on Tech on Instagram, you can
[25:56] Speaker 1: check it out. In fact, I made the video because
[25:59] Speaker 1: of the Flip seven, because it's so easy to do
[26:03] Speaker 1: videos on that phone and again, I was talking about
[26:06] Speaker 1: the benefits of the foldable. There has to be a
[26:08] Speaker 1: benefit to a foldable phone for me to want to
[26:10] Speaker 1: use it. Now, the Flip seven, that is an actual
[26:13] Speaker 1: benefit where because you can use those front facing cameras,
[26:16] Speaker 1: doing a little video like that is super easy. You're
[26:19] Speaker 1: not using the selfie camera. It's like the best camera.
[26:21] Speaker 1: So again, that is what I like about it. Speaking
[26:25] Speaker 1: of foldable phones, Google announced this week that they're made
[26:28] Speaker 1: by Google Hardware. Event has a date August twentieth in
[26:32] Speaker 1: New York City. They will stream it on YouTube. The
[26:35] Speaker 1: funny thing about this event is that it's at the
[26:38] Speaker 1: very similar place to where Samsung just held their event
[26:41] Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. I don't know how that happened, but kind
[26:44] Speaker 1: of weird. So what are we gonna see there? Pixel
[26:46] Speaker 1: ten phones, maybe a new pixel watch, maybe new Pixel buds.
[26:52] Speaker 1: The Pixel ten pro fold might be their first dust
[26:56] Speaker 1: resistant foldable. So right now, these foldable phones, the Samsung's
[27:00] Speaker 1: just got dust resistance. The Pixel nine Pro fold did not,
[27:04] Speaker 1: so hopefully it'll get dust resistance. Let's see what else
[27:08] Speaker 1: is interesting here. You know, obviously there's gonna be the
[27:10] Speaker 1: standard upgrades to the processor and the cameras pricing, there's
[27:14] Speaker 1: leaked pricing. I hate to get into that because who
[27:16] Speaker 1: knows that will change Pixel four, the watch is expected
[27:20] Speaker 1: to have a bigger battery, and what else. I think
[27:24] Speaker 1: that's about it for I mean, there's at this point
[27:26] Speaker 1: there's not too many surprises at these events anymore, which
[27:29] Speaker 1: is really sad. There used to always be a surprise
[27:32] Speaker 1: at these events. But now, because of the leaks and
[27:34] Speaker 1: because of you know, the iterative changes on all these smartphones,
[27:37] Speaker 1: they've gotten to a place where they're already so good.
[27:40] Speaker 1: Nobody's sitting there waiting with baited breath saying, oh am,
[27:43] Speaker 1: I gonna upgrade because of this change. No, they're gonna
[27:46] Speaker 1: upgrade when their phone breaks, or when their contract is up,
[27:49] Speaker 1: or when they have the money to upgrade. So it's
[27:51] Speaker 1: become really tough for these phone makers to give us
[27:54] Speaker 1: a reason to upgrade. Apple tried with the whole you
[27:57] Speaker 1: know AI stuff that didn't really work. Google there goes,
[28:00] Speaker 1: you know, the back catalog is so far that you
[28:03] Speaker 1: don't really need to upgrade to get the AI on
[28:05] Speaker 1: that stuff. And then Samsung, I will give credit. They do.
[28:07] Speaker 1: They do try a bunch of stuff to see what
[28:09] Speaker 1: sticks all right eighty to eight rich one O one
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[28:32] Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
[28:35] Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one
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[28:43] Speaker 1: one zero one. Let's go to uh Herb and San
[28:47] Speaker 1: Diego Herb, you're on with Rich.
[28:49] Speaker 6: Yeah, Rich, I have an older house and the wire
[28:53] Speaker 6: for thee the telephone is the old fashioned uh telephone wires,
[28:59] Speaker 6: and I it to get my home phone through the internet.
[29:04] Speaker 6: And now uh, the wiring has quit again. And the
[29:09] Speaker 6: phone company doesn't want to go up in Miami and
[29:11] Speaker 6: try to do all that, so.
[29:12] Speaker 7: They have a deal where you put a cell phone
[29:15] Speaker 7: next to your answering machine, and when somebody calls the
[29:18] Speaker 7: cell phone answers it's a cellular cellular call anyway, and
[29:23] Speaker 7: it talks through.
[29:24] Speaker 6: A to the answer machine through Bluetooth, and so the
[29:33] Speaker 6: answer machine functions and I'm having a lot of problem
[29:37] Speaker 6: with doing that, and I wonder if you know anything
[29:39] Speaker 6: about that. Somebody talked about an anthing machine that had
[29:43] Speaker 6: the tip that allows it to be a straight cell
[29:48] Speaker 6: phone answering machine. Do you know anything about that?
[29:52] Speaker 1: I I'm a little confused. So I'm trying to tell
[29:54] Speaker 1: me what you're trying to do and maybe I can
[29:56] Speaker 1: come up with a solution.
[29:57] Speaker 6: So you're trying to sorry, go ahead, Yeah.
[30:00] Speaker 1: So you have a you have a landline phone line,
[30:03] Speaker 1: but it's now it's now voiceover IP, which means is
[30:05] Speaker 1: coming through what your cable company or your phone company.
[30:09] Speaker 6: It was coming through the phone company, through the the internet.
[30:12] Speaker 1: Got my internet and what's the phone company? I'm sorry,
[30:16] Speaker 1: who's who's the provider?
[30:18] Speaker 6: Uh at?
[30:21] Speaker 1: Okay? So they gave you a box that basically plugs
[30:24] Speaker 1: into your internet connection and that provides you a phone line.
[30:28] Speaker 1: Is that right?
[30:29] Speaker 6: That's what That's what it was. Now that has quit
[30:33] Speaker 6: because part of.
[30:34] Speaker 7: It was old wiring to where the answering machine plugged
[30:37] Speaker 7: into the ball.
[30:39] Speaker 1: And so you're trying to just have a landline with
[30:41] Speaker 1: an answering machine.
[30:43] Speaker 6: I figure that's what I wanted as an answering machine.
[30:46] Speaker 1: And and and their system. Their phone number that they
[30:49] Speaker 1: give you doesn't include voicemail.
[30:53] Speaker 6: You know, I number got to that, but.
[30:59] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[31:00] Speaker 1: Okay, So what I would do is I would get
[31:02] Speaker 1: in touch with AT and T. I think that this
[31:04] Speaker 1: phone line has built in voicemail. I don't think you
[31:06] Speaker 1: need an external machine to take a call anymore. I
[31:11] Speaker 1: think that this phone line should have voicemail built into it.
[31:15] Speaker 1: And that means that you will just basically pick up
[31:17] Speaker 1: this phone line and somehow either press the number one,
[31:21] Speaker 1: hold down the number one, and that should dial the
[31:24] Speaker 1: voicemail that's built into this line. If it's a standard
[31:27] Speaker 1: AT and T, they call it VoIP, do they do?
[31:31] Speaker 1: They throw that out their voiceover IP.
[31:35] Speaker 5: Not really.
[31:36] Speaker 1: They might just call it a you know, digital, They
[31:39] Speaker 1: might call it digital home phone service. It looks like that.
[31:42] Speaker 1: But I'm looking at it. Okay, I'm looking at this here. Okay.
[31:45] Speaker 1: Twenty five features in yeah, okay, twenty five features including voicemail,
[31:49] Speaker 1: caller ID call waiting, call forwarding, three way calling, call blocking,
[31:52] Speaker 1: unlimited long distance in the US, Mexico, Canada, Digital phone
[31:56] Speaker 1: call protect compatible with most alarm meta occult monitoring, and
[32:01] Speaker 1: teletypewriter devices. So I think that if I were you,
[32:05] Speaker 1: how much you paying for this a month?
[32:10] Speaker 6: Well let's combine with my TV and everything else. But
[32:15] Speaker 6: I'm not sure it's about eighty bucks.
[32:18] Speaker 1: I think eighty bucks. Okay, So what I would do
[32:20] Speaker 1: is okay, so calling features. So I'm looking at these
[32:24] Speaker 1: calling features here. There is a way to dial dial
[32:28] Speaker 1: the voicemail on here. Yeah, period is voicemail. So voicemail,
[32:34] Speaker 1: set up an info I'm looking at that set up
[32:36] Speaker 1: voicemail for landline home phone. Oh wow, there's even an
[32:40] Speaker 1: app you can get. Do you have a smartphone? Yeah, okay,
[32:43] Speaker 1: so look at that. You can even you can even
[32:45] Speaker 1: download an app to your smartphone that will that will
[32:48] Speaker 1: give you access to your voicemail. So how cool is that.
[32:52] Speaker 1: It's called the AT and T Voicemail Viewer app. And
[32:56] Speaker 1: so if you want to set up your voicemail number, one,
[33:00] Speaker 1: let's see here dial Star nine to eight. So on
[33:04] Speaker 1: your phone you dial Star nine eight. That will help
[33:07] Speaker 1: you set up your voicemail and then you can listen
[33:11] Speaker 1: to your voicemail by pressing Yeah, this Star nine eight
[33:14] Speaker 1: will access your voicemail. And then I would also download
[33:17] Speaker 1: that app which is again called AT and T voicemail
[33:20] Speaker 1: to text unified messaging. But Herb, I think that it's
[33:24] Speaker 1: funny when we think about these things, you know, these
[33:27] Speaker 1: these systems. Sometimes we have a frame of reference of
[33:30] Speaker 1: the standard or the kind of previous way of doing things,
[33:35] Speaker 1: and sometimes we don't even think about the fact that
[33:37] Speaker 1: there's a new way to do things. And so this
[33:39] Speaker 1: line that you have ninety nine point nine percent sure
[33:42] Speaker 1: has voicemail built in, you don't even need that answering
[33:45] Speaker 1: machine at all. And so I will put a link
[33:48] Speaker 1: to this support article on my website rich on tech
[33:51] Speaker 1: dot TV in the show notes this is episode let
[33:55] Speaker 1: me see here. I think it's one hundred and thirty.
[33:57] Speaker 1: So if you just go right to the website rich
[33:59] Speaker 1: on tech TV, I'll have this link up here. In
[34:01] Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, set up that voicemail and download
[34:05] Speaker 1: that app to your phone, and I think you'll be
[34:06] Speaker 1: able to bring that answering machine to Goodwill and maybe
[34:11] Speaker 1: someone else needs that. But I remember, I mean the
[34:13] Speaker 1: old days of answering machines. Remember you'd be in the house,
[34:16] Speaker 1: you can literally and thanks for the call, or appreciate
[34:20] Speaker 1: that literally back in the day, do you remember, you
[34:24] Speaker 1: would screen your calls by having the person leave a message.
[34:27] Speaker 1: There would be a tiny micro cassette in your answering machine.
[34:32] Speaker 1: You know, you'd everyone be in the house, the phone
[34:34] Speaker 1: would ring, everyone freezes, and you'd all look at the
[34:37] Speaker 1: answering machine and you'd wait for it to pick up,
[34:39] Speaker 1: and you'd wait to see who this person was. This
[34:41] Speaker 1: was before call or ID. This was the funny thing
[34:44] Speaker 1: is before we started ignoring calls, we used to actually
[34:47] Speaker 1: answer calls and give people excuses why we couldn't talk.
[34:51] Speaker 1: Like my parents would make me answer the phone. And
[34:54] Speaker 1: for every business person that ever called my dad sorry
[34:56] Speaker 1: to put you on blast, Dad, it would always be like, oh,
[34:58] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's in the shower. I'm sorry, he's not
[35:00] Speaker 1: like they would literally be like this, like they'd be
[35:02] Speaker 1: looking at it and be like, do not, I am
[35:04] Speaker 1: not here right now, like you'd be they'd be making
[35:06] Speaker 1: this motion. And nowadays, it's just it's just when you
[35:10] Speaker 1: think about this stuff, it is so wild how far
[35:13] Speaker 1: we've come. Now we just ignore people. Now we just
[35:15] Speaker 1: literally don't answer the phone. But back in the day,
[35:17] Speaker 1: you'd pick up, you'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, you'd
[35:20] Speaker 1: be looking at your mom. I'm sorry, my mom is
[35:22] Speaker 1: not available. She's just not here right now. My mom
[35:25] Speaker 1: says she's not here. My mom says she's not here,
[35:28] Speaker 1: right You remember this, Bobo, I mean, of course not
[35:31] Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, I mean this is just funny. We
[35:33] Speaker 1: take for granted how much has changed. But anyway, bottom line,
[35:38] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, people, Oh yeah, so many things, all right
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[36:30] Speaker 8: Hello, park I mean Tanner here, So do.
[36:32] Speaker 1: You guys get to play with a lot of tech
[36:33] Speaker 1: at home or what?
[36:35] Speaker 9: Yeah?
[36:36] Speaker 10: But I also like playing outside, but I haven't lately
[36:39] Speaker 10: that much because I'm recovering from a toe injury.
[36:42] Speaker 11: But now it's over, so now I should go.
[36:44] Speaker 1: Back a toe injury. What he like? What is he
[36:46] Speaker 1: like in the NBA and recovering from a toe injury?
[36:50] Speaker 1: Uh huh?
[36:50] Speaker 8: Okay, Tanner, I mean, I'm just gonna be serious mostly
[36:53] Speaker 8: on my iPad, but I do like going outside and
[36:56] Speaker 8: playing on my shoo.
[36:57] Speaker 1: I think my kids feel guilty about theirs.
[37:02] Speaker 11: I don't feel guilty.
[37:04] Speaker 1: That is funny, my kid Actually, Tanner downloaded one of
[37:08] Speaker 1: the apps we talked about on the show. A long
[37:10] Speaker 1: time ago. We interviewed the creator of an app called
[37:12] Speaker 1: be Present, and it's like, basically this app that forces
[37:16] Speaker 1: you to take a break from your iPad. Tell me
[37:19] Speaker 1: how you've used it. It's like there's something called beast mode.
[37:21] Speaker 1: What happens when you turn on beast mode?
[37:23] Speaker 8: All right, So there's a pro in normal mode, and
[37:28] Speaker 8: the beast mode makes it so you can't turn off
[37:30] Speaker 8: a blocking session, so you can start a blocking session,
[37:34] Speaker 8: and with normal you can always end it, and it
[37:37] Speaker 8: blocks all of your apps, and it shows you your
[37:40] Speaker 8: screen time. And if you have pro mode, you can
[37:43] Speaker 8: turn on beast Mode when you're about to start a
[37:44] Speaker 8: blocking session, which will make well which will still block everything,
[37:49] Speaker 8: but you can't turn it off.
[37:51] Speaker 1: You can't stop it. I love it like this, So
[37:54] Speaker 1: now I just say to my kid, I go, hey,
[37:56] Speaker 1: why don't you start like an hour of beast Mode?
[37:58] Speaker 1: And he's like he pressed it, like he thinks it's
[38:00] Speaker 1: a challenge. So if you're struggling with your screen time,
[38:03] Speaker 1: check out that be present app, and definitely the beast Mode,
[38:06] Speaker 1: because you can't stop it. Once you put it on,
[38:08] Speaker 1: You're not able to stop the hour or whatever you
[38:11] Speaker 1: set as your time.
[38:13] Speaker 12: So I just want to say, I wish everybody here
[38:15] Speaker 12: can see the glowing on your face as your kids
[38:18] Speaker 12: sit here and talk about tech. I haven't seen you
[38:20] Speaker 12: smile so hard the entire time we've worked together. I
[38:23] Speaker 12: just get such why I've always see you smile. Boba
[38:25] Speaker 12: has a great smile.
[38:26] Speaker 1: I always, you know, It's like seeing your kids, you know,
[38:29] Speaker 1: come up in this world and kind of become their
[38:31] Speaker 1: own people is really interesting. There's only so much you
[38:34] Speaker 1: can do, Like, there's only so much you can do.
[38:37] Speaker 1: You you have to guide them. I tell them, I said, look,
[38:39] Speaker 1: I can't do everything for you in the future, Like
[38:41] Speaker 1: I'm giving you this base knowledge and these base skills
[38:45] Speaker 1: and also the base kind of like way I think
[38:48] Speaker 1: you should conduct yourselves. Yeah, but at the end of
[38:50] Speaker 1: the day, ninety nine point nine percent of decisions you
[38:53] Speaker 1: make as an adult are solo. Like you're not calling
[38:56] Speaker 1: your parents and asking them.
[38:57] Speaker 12: I know, yeah, forget, little Bobo will be twenty one
[38:59] Speaker 12: and October twin baby No, no, baby Bobo is here
[39:04] Speaker 12: the next month, So I'm starting all the wait next month,
[39:07] Speaker 12: I mean after number six.
[39:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't, Okay, I didn't know if
[39:10] Speaker 1: I if the date was public. No, day's public November six.
[39:14] Speaker 1: You already have a little a little website for a
[39:16] Speaker 1: link tree for she already did.
[39:18] Speaker 12: She had the baby has an email, So does it
[39:21] Speaker 12: really Brittany already made the baby email and has a
[39:24] Speaker 12: registry and all the Oh my gosh, yeah, he's excited.
[39:27] Speaker 1: My kids had an email right right at birth. Although
[39:30] Speaker 1: I will tell you the second second kid syndrome Parker.
[39:33] Speaker 1: We signed up for freaking flyer account the day he
[39:36] Speaker 1: was born, because he flew within like two weeks. I
[39:39] Speaker 1: think it was four. I think you had to be four. Tanner.
[39:42] Speaker 1: He's going on eleven and still no freaking flyer account,
[39:45] Speaker 1: even though he's filling so many times in me. But
[39:47] Speaker 1: that's called the second kid. You'll know what that means
[39:49] Speaker 1: in the future. Got a sign him up. Yeah, So
[39:53] Speaker 1: here's the deal. I get a lot of emails from you.
[39:56] Speaker 1: You go to the website, you email me. It's all
[39:58] Speaker 1: day long. And yes, I replied to a lot of them.
[40:00] Speaker 1: I don't get to every one of them, so sometimes
[40:02] Speaker 1: I read them on the show. Sometimes I don't. Sometimes
[40:04] Speaker 1: the combination. But it's funny because every email I get. Now,
[40:10] Speaker 1: I've done technology for a long time, and so to me,
[40:13] Speaker 1: I've got this knowledge base of information just bouncing around
[40:16] Speaker 1: in my head. And when someone emails me and I'm like,
[40:18] Speaker 1: wait a second, is this a joke? Like am I
[40:20] Speaker 1: missing something? Like sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one.
[40:25] Speaker 1: But it's really tough as a tech person because you're
[40:27] Speaker 1: like that just seems too easy. So, for instance, Darren
[40:31] Speaker 1: wrote in and say, hey, Rich big fan and watcher
[40:33] Speaker 1: slash listener, I volunteer for a nonprofit, and we're mentoring
[40:36] Speaker 1: children in Uganda via Zoom. The challenge is that English
[40:41] Speaker 1: is their second language. They speak softly, and they don't
[40:43] Speaker 1: always speak directly into the mic, so it could be
[40:45] Speaker 1: hard to understand them. Is there any tech that could
[40:48] Speaker 1: transcribe what they're saying in real time, like subtitles just
[40:51] Speaker 1: English to English. That would be amazing and really help
[40:54] Speaker 1: us continue our our mission mentoring kids in Africa, Mexico, Iran,
[40:58] Speaker 1: and here in the US. And I wrote back, and
[41:02] Speaker 1: I said, what about just live transcription that's built into Zoom.
[41:06] Speaker 1: It literally just listens to what you're saying and transcribes
[41:09] Speaker 1: what the person's saying. And English to English is super easy.
[41:13] Speaker 1: Of course you can probably have it in other languages.
[41:15] Speaker 1: That's like what AI has enabled on all these video
[41:17] Speaker 1: chat apps, is you know, live translation in real time.
[41:21] Speaker 1: And I just got a reply from Darren. He said, Rich,
[41:25] Speaker 1: that's amazing. I never even knew that existed. You should
[41:27] Speaker 1: let your listeners know about this feature. I'm listening to
[41:29] Speaker 1: the show. Awesome as always, I mean, super simple solution,
[41:34] Speaker 1: but it's like I'm sitting there racking my brain, going
[41:37] Speaker 1: this can't be like, maybe am I missing something? Does
[41:40] Speaker 1: he want to do something? And I don't understand, but
[41:42] Speaker 1: it just sounds like he just wants live transcriptions, which
[41:45] Speaker 1: is something that's built into zoom. Anyway, Should we take
[41:49] Speaker 1: a call? Do we have time to take a call?
[41:51] Speaker 1: You think? Okay, let's go to Oh, Tanner wanted to
[41:54] Speaker 1: touch the button here, I'll put the caller back on hold.
[41:57] Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Tanner, let's go to Oh. Now
[42:00] Speaker 1: we just now I think we just hung up on them.
[42:03] Speaker 1: Are you there? Okay? Whoops? We just me Oh, who's this?
[42:09] Speaker 4: This is Dave and Littleton?
[42:10] Speaker 1: Okay, Dave, I think you might have been on with Kim,
[42:12] Speaker 1: but I guess we're just gonna take you live. Who
[42:15] Speaker 1: knows what?
[42:15] Speaker 4: Well, that's fine, No, Rich, you and I talked a
[42:18] Speaker 4: while back on my Stubbornly Young podcast. But I have
[42:20] Speaker 4: a tech question for you.
[42:21] Speaker 1: Okay, wait, what podcasts do we talk on?
[42:25] Speaker 4: You were on Stubbornly Young? Oh?
[42:27] Speaker 1: Yes, I remember this? Yes you do that podcast?
[42:29] Speaker 13: Yeah?
[42:29] Speaker 1: Yeah? Did anyone listen?
[42:33] Speaker 2: Oh?
[42:33] Speaker 4: I hope so I think so? Yeah? I mean there
[42:35] Speaker 4: were downloads. So yeah, good.
[42:37] Speaker 1: I like that. I like to hear that. I you know,
[42:39] Speaker 1: I'm always like, Okay, people are going to care about
[42:41] Speaker 1: what I have to say. Anyway, what can I help
[42:43] Speaker 1: you with, Dave, Yes, I do.
[42:45] Speaker 4: Excuse me, Rich, I've got about a four year old PC.
[42:48] Speaker 4: I don't do a lot on it. Oh, I do
[42:49] Speaker 4: a lot on it, but I don't require a lot
[42:51] Speaker 4: of functionality. But I do some audacity editing and some
[42:55] Speaker 4: other things. But anyway, it seems like it's full. And
[42:59] Speaker 4: I have gone back back and forth. I've tried to,
[43:01] Speaker 4: like I actually stripped it down to original mode and
[43:04] Speaker 4: everything else. But by the time I get all my
[43:05] Speaker 4: apps loaded on it, I've got like a half the
[43:08] Speaker 4: gig hard drive by the time I get everything up,
[43:11] Speaker 4: and I know and by the time I get it
[43:13] Speaker 4: going everything now when I look at it and Mike,
[43:16] Speaker 4: you know, it says I've got like one percent left,
[43:18] Speaker 4: one percent left. So I was thinking about just replacing it.
[43:21] Speaker 4: But is there something I can do to clean that
[43:24] Speaker 4: thing up?
[43:25] Speaker 1: Yes, I mean you can try and see if it helps.
[43:28] Speaker 1: But I mean, if you're this is this is what
[43:30] Speaker 1: happens when I set up an Android phone that's only
[43:32] Speaker 1: got one hundred and twenty eight gigabytes of storage. By
[43:35] Speaker 1: the time I get everything installed on there, it's got
[43:37] Speaker 1: nothing left. I'm like, well, I can't even use this thing.
[43:40] Speaker 1: So that's kind of what's happening to your computer. How
[43:42] Speaker 1: big is the hard drive on this thing?
[43:45] Speaker 4: Well, it's it's a half a gig I'm sorry, yeah,
[43:48] Speaker 4: half a half a gig hard drive, but it's of
[43:51] Speaker 4: course partitioned into the C and D drive.
[43:53] Speaker 1: Half a gig doesn't sound right, that would be right?
[43:57] Speaker 4: Oh fived?
[43:58] Speaker 1: Sorry, five to twelve path a terribiye five twelve okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
[44:03] Speaker 1: that's a decent amount.
[44:05] Speaker 4: It should be. And and I actually restored it to
[44:08] Speaker 4: factory settings once and about and everything was back up
[44:11] Speaker 4: and running and wonderful. And then about a month later
[44:13] Speaker 4: by the time and I've deleted you know, stuff from cash,
[44:16] Speaker 4: I've deleted stuff from download, but man, it just keeps
[44:19] Speaker 4: catching up to me. And I'm thinking it's probably just
[44:21] Speaker 4: time to give up and get another one. But am
[44:23] Speaker 4: I wrong?
[44:23] Speaker 1: Well, is the computer still working? Yeah, then there's no
[44:27] Speaker 1: need to get so here's what we need to do.
[44:30] Speaker 4: I mean it chokes a lot.
[44:31] Speaker 1: Oh well, because it's probably the drive is so full
[44:34] Speaker 1: that it doesn't really have a lot to work with there.
[44:37] Speaker 1: But here's what I would do. Number one, the easiest
[44:40] Speaker 1: thing is this a desktop or a laptop?
[44:42] Speaker 4: Desktop? Desktop?
[44:44] Speaker 1: So well, okay, so super easy for if you still
[44:48] Speaker 1: want to use this computer, you know, that's number one.
[44:50] Speaker 1: You have to decide you want to use it. I
[44:52] Speaker 1: would I would go through and try these programs like
[44:55] Speaker 1: number one. Disc clean Up is built into Windows. Have
[44:58] Speaker 1: you done that?
[44:59] Speaker 4: Done that?
[45:00] Speaker 1: What about Storage Sense?
[45:02] Speaker 2: Yep?
[45:02] Speaker 6: Done that?
[45:03] Speaker 1: Okay, Well then what about bleach bit? Have you tried
[45:07] Speaker 1: that one? No bleach bleach bit like bleach like, you know,
[45:13] Speaker 1: cleaning something, so bleach bit now, Dave, I think you're
[45:19] Speaker 1: a little bit more advanced than the average person, it
[45:21] Speaker 1: sounds like. So this is not something that I would recommend.
[45:25] Speaker 1: This is not something i'd recommend for everyone to just
[45:27] Speaker 1: install in their computer and run because you kind of
[45:30] Speaker 1: have to know what you're doing a little bit. But
[45:31] Speaker 1: this can free up your cash, cookies, internet history, temporary
[45:36] Speaker 1: fly files, all the junk that's on your system that
[45:39] Speaker 1: you don't really need. It can do. And so that
[45:43] Speaker 1: is probably the last ditch effort, is to try running
[45:47] Speaker 1: this on your system, see if it finds anything that
[45:49] Speaker 1: you can get rid of and if it doesn't, you know,
[45:52] Speaker 1: then you might want to look into a new computer.
[45:54] Speaker 1: But before you get a new computer, you can also
[45:56] Speaker 1: put all the files that you're using onto an extra
[46:00] Speaker 1: in a hard drive and see if that helps, because
[46:02] Speaker 1: I don't know how much is stored on your computer
[46:04] Speaker 1: besides the actual apps and things like that, the programs
[46:08] Speaker 1: that you want.
[46:09] Speaker 4: You know, it's I've done that everything. I push all
[46:12] Speaker 4: my files that are not software related onto the D
[46:16] Speaker 4: drive and it's the C drive that is like choked,
[46:20] Speaker 4: which is where you know, as you know, everything gets
[46:22] Speaker 4: installed right right, So well, I don't want to mess
[46:25] Speaker 4: with repartitioning and all that.
[46:27] Speaker 1: That's I guess I could. I mean you could if
[46:29] Speaker 1: you wanted to save this computer and just put it
[46:31] Speaker 1: all into one. But that that's what I'd recommend. I
[46:33] Speaker 1: try the bleach bet see if that can free up
[46:35] Speaker 1: some space. It sounds like you just don't really have
[46:37] Speaker 1: much to work with on this computer once all of
[46:39] Speaker 1: your standard programs that you're using are installed. So it
[46:42] Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, if you get a new computer,
[46:45] Speaker 1: obviously you want to get something that has at least
[46:47] Speaker 1: a terabyte of space. At this point, at least sixteen
[46:51] Speaker 1: gigs of memory and a good decent processor. In fact,
[46:55] Speaker 1: I always recommend when you go to Costco if you're
[46:58] Speaker 1: a Costo member, to get what they have there. And
[47:00] Speaker 1: I was in Costco last weekend and I was looking
[47:03] Speaker 1: at the computers. They have Lenovo all in one twenty
[47:08] Speaker 1: seven inch touchscreen for nine hundred dollars with an AMD
[47:11] Speaker 1: rise in five sixteen gigs a RAM one terabyte drive.
[47:16] Speaker 1: It looks like it's built in graphics on that one.
[47:18] Speaker 1: Then they had another computer I saw six ninety nine
[47:21] Speaker 1: for an HP desktop, thirty two gigs of storage arise
[47:26] Speaker 1: in seven and a terabyte. I mean, that's incredible for
[47:29] Speaker 1: seven hundred bucks. So that's where I'd recommend you look
[47:32] Speaker 1: for those computers if you have a Costco membership. But
[47:35] Speaker 1: good to hear from you, Dave over there in Little
[47:37] Speaker 1: Tin Glad. We did the podcast and felt like yesterday,
[47:40] Speaker 1: even though it was probably longer than that. Coming up
[47:42] Speaker 1: more of your calls. Eighty to eight rich one O
[47:44] Speaker 1: one eighty eight seven four to two four to one
[47:47] Speaker 1: zero one. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro
[47:54] Speaker 1: here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple eight.
[47:58] Speaker 1: Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four two
[48:01] Speaker 1: four to one zero. One couple of price price hikes
[48:06] Speaker 1: to know about. Number one nest Aware. This is Google's
[48:10] Speaker 1: subscription service for their cameras and doorbells. They're increasing the
[48:14] Speaker 1: price starting August fifteenth. The standard plan nest Aware goes
[48:18] Speaker 1: from ten dollars up goes to ten dollars a month
[48:22] Speaker 1: up from eight, or one hundred dollars a year up
[48:25] Speaker 1: from eighty. Then nest Aware Plus goes to twenty dollars
[48:28] Speaker 1: a month or two hundred dollars a year, up from
[48:31] Speaker 1: fifteen or one hundred and fifty. So all users are
[48:34] Speaker 1: gonna get those price hikes starting with your first bill
[48:37] Speaker 1: after August fifteenth. Google says the hike is needed to
[48:41] Speaker 1: keep up with market shifts, inflation, and local tax updates.
[48:45] Speaker 1: So yeah, we're seeing the prices go up on that.
[48:48] Speaker 1: It's kind of in line with what Ring charges for
[48:51] Speaker 1: their cameras to monitor multiple cameras. A lot of people
[48:54] Speaker 1: don't realize, like the nest cameras are just live streaming
[48:56] Speaker 1: and sort of the Ring cameras. Basically, if you don't
[48:58] Speaker 1: pay for these subscriptions, that save it in the cloud.
[49:02] Speaker 1: Peacock also raising prices Peacock Premium with ADS is going
[49:06] Speaker 1: from eight dollars a month to eleven dollars a month
[49:09] Speaker 1: starting July twenty third for new users August twenty second
[49:12] Speaker 1: for existing users. Peacock Premium Plus, which apparently has fewer ads, okay,
[49:19] Speaker 1: goes from fourteen dollars a month to seventeen dollars a month.
[49:23] Speaker 1: So NBC says the price hike reflects that Peacock was
[49:27] Speaker 1: quote underpriced compared to competitors. And they are testing a
[49:32] Speaker 1: select here for eight dollars a month, which just has
[49:34] Speaker 1: a couple of things on there. But here's the deal.
[49:37] Speaker 1: I've talked about this on this show. Peacock is the
[49:39] Speaker 1: sleeper streaming service because it's NBC Universal. They get so
[49:45] Speaker 1: many of the best movies. I think that movie that
[49:48] Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier Drop, I think that was
[49:50] Speaker 1: on Peacock. So actually I'm canceling, just kidding. Let's go
[49:57] Speaker 1: to Barbara in Oh my gosh, Okay, I keep pressing
[50:01] Speaker 1: the wrong button here. Okay, let's see if this is
[50:03] Speaker 1: Barbara and passing a Barbara You're on with rich Hi.
[50:07] Speaker 14: First of all, it was a pleasure to talk with
[50:09] Speaker 14: your son Tanner, who provided a wonderful apology. What a pleasure,
[50:15] Speaker 14: all right, and a pleasure to speak with you. I'm
[50:17] Speaker 14: currently I am book the US Mobile. Should I buy
[50:23] Speaker 14: a new phone before I transfer? Or answer? And if
[50:27] Speaker 14: you have time to answer, I was Android before iPhone
[50:31] Speaker 14: and use a MacBook primarily. Is it crazy to go
[50:34] Speaker 14: back to Android?
[50:36] Speaker 1: Okay, let me get that straight. So you've got AT
[50:39] Speaker 1: and T you're going to switch to US Mobile? Is
[50:41] Speaker 1: that right?
[50:42] Speaker 4: Correct?
[50:42] Speaker 1: Okay? And you also have an Android, but you're thinking
[50:45] Speaker 1: of going to an iPhone?
[50:47] Speaker 4: No.
[50:48] Speaker 14: I had an Android back in the day, okay, and
[50:52] Speaker 14: then I moved to the iPhone family and need to
[50:54] Speaker 14: upgrade from A twelve or I want to? And is
[50:58] Speaker 14: it crazy to go back to an aproid?
[51:01] Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy at all. I mean I
[51:02] Speaker 1: love Android, so I would of course recommend that. But
[51:05] Speaker 1: it depends what you want out of your phone. Are
[51:07] Speaker 1: you a big I message person?
[51:09] Speaker 9: Like?
[51:09] Speaker 1: Do you love I message?
[51:12] Speaker 14: I love messaging. I don't care who how I do it.
[51:16] Speaker 1: You're not like a green bubble snob?
[51:19] Speaker 14: No?
[51:20] Speaker 1: Okay? Well, I mean, look there's there's two there, and
[51:25] Speaker 1: it does work with your with your MacBook. You said
[51:28] Speaker 1: you have a MacBook. So the iPhone does work really
[51:30] Speaker 1: well with the MacBook. So if you are transferring files
[51:33] Speaker 1: or you like to text from your MacBook, those kind
[51:35] Speaker 1: of things do work really nicely. Or if you have
[51:38] Speaker 1: a subscription to any of the Apple you know iCloud services,
[51:41] Speaker 1: those all kind of work together. They call it the
[51:44] Speaker 1: halo effect. So if you're if you're happy with your
[51:46] Speaker 1: iPhone and you like the way it works, I would
[51:48] Speaker 1: just upgrade to a new iPhone. And unless you're a
[51:52] Speaker 1: pro photographer, I think the iPhone sixteen E is an
[51:55] Speaker 1: excellent upgrade for you. And that's going to be about
[51:58] Speaker 1: six hundred dollars. You might be able to get it
[52:00] Speaker 1: for a little bit cheaper, depending on if it goes
[52:02] Speaker 1: on sale or any promotions. US Mobile is excellent. We're
[52:07] Speaker 1: actually going to have the CEO of us Mobile on
[52:09] Speaker 1: in an upcoming show. I subscribe to US Mobile. I
[52:13] Speaker 1: really enjoy what they do. How did you hear about them?
[52:16] Speaker 14: From you? But also from Park Powers?
[52:19] Speaker 1: Oh okay, interesting, who's that?
[52:22] Speaker 7: Now?
[52:22] Speaker 1: It's kidding? No, I love Clark Howard. So yeah, US
[52:29] Speaker 1: Mobile is really good. And so you're trying to figure
[52:32] Speaker 1: out if you should upgrade before you do the switch.
[52:35] Speaker 14: Yeah, should I buy the new phone first or should
[52:37] Speaker 14: I switch first?
[52:39] Speaker 1: You know, I don't really think it matters. I would actually,
[52:42] Speaker 1: since you're doing you know, it's kind of like these
[52:44] Speaker 1: big life changes, I would say I would do the
[52:48] Speaker 1: switch first, get settled in, make sure everything works, and
[52:51] Speaker 1: then upgrade your phone, and then you can switch the
[52:54] Speaker 1: number easily to that new phone.
[52:57] Speaker 14: All right, that's donny. Any particular I transferring to US Mobile.
[53:02] Speaker 1: M Well, you know, if you're on AT and T,
[53:06] Speaker 1: they're gonna basically try to keep you on there, so
[53:09] Speaker 1: you do have to get what's called a port out
[53:11] Speaker 1: authorization number. Usually are you are you logged into AT
[53:15] Speaker 1: and T on your account and all that good stuff
[53:17] Speaker 1: like do you know like how to access it online? Oh,
[53:20] Speaker 1: we got it, we gotta we gotta run. But it
[53:23] Speaker 1: should be pretty painless and they can walk you through
[53:24] Speaker 1: their customer services. Great. Thanks for the call, Barbara. Welcome
[53:31] Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out
[53:33] Speaker 1: with you talking technology at Triple eight rich one O
[53:37] Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.
[53:40] Speaker 1: The website rich on Tech dot TV show notes are
[53:44] Speaker 1: live there there. Uh, and now we've got a guest
[53:48] Speaker 1: Adrian Ludwig, chief architect at Tools for Humanity, working with
[53:52] Speaker 1: a World Network to build a private, insecure way to
[53:57] Speaker 1: prove that you are human online and welcome to the show.
[54:01] Speaker 15: Thanks Rich, happy to be here.
[54:03] Speaker 1: This is fascinating to me. So first off, explain what world.
[54:07] Speaker 1: So I was actually long story shorter or probably longer.
[54:11] Speaker 1: I was in South Korea when you guys originally launched
[54:15] Speaker 1: like the first ORB. I believe it was like there
[54:17] Speaker 1: right where you like scan your irises or something.
[54:20] Speaker 15: So the ORB is a camera that takes a picture
[54:22] Speaker 15: of your face in order to confirm that you are
[54:25] Speaker 15: real human and give you a identity that you can
[54:29] Speaker 15: use to connect to online services. But yeah, I've also
[54:33] Speaker 15: been to the ORB in South Korea.
[54:35] Speaker 1: Oh you have Okay, So I was there. This was
[54:38] Speaker 1: like I think it was two summers ago, and so
[54:41] Speaker 1: I was like very like, this is really interesting. This
[54:43] Speaker 1: is really different. So the World Network, Like, what are
[54:47] Speaker 1: you building at world? What does that mean exactly?
[54:50] Speaker 15: So a couple of almost a decade ago, the founding
[54:54] Speaker 15: team Sam Altman and Alex Blania and a few others
[54:58] Speaker 15: were beginning to think about what what the world would
[55:01] Speaker 15: look like once AI became prevalent and capable, which we're
[55:05] Speaker 15: now in that world where we're seeing very capable AI.
[55:09] Speaker 15: And one of the things they realized is there wasn't
[55:12] Speaker 15: a way to differentiate real people from a capable AI
[55:17] Speaker 15: on an online context. And so world is a protocol
[55:21] Speaker 15: to make it possible for any service to future proof
[55:25] Speaker 15: its application in the future.
[55:28] Speaker 1: So the idea is, I go to this physical device,
[55:31] Speaker 1: I get scanned as a human, It confirms it I'm
[55:33] Speaker 1: a human, somehow saves some of my biometrics in its database.
[55:37] Speaker 1: And then when I'm online, let's say I sign up
[55:40] Speaker 1: for a dating app, I would use that to let's say,
[55:43] Speaker 1: like confirm that I am a human versus just a
[55:45] Speaker 1: bot that's sitting there chatting with a whole bunch of people.
[55:48] Speaker 15: The way I think about it is it's a little
[55:49] Speaker 15: bit like you go to the DMV and it takes
[55:52] Speaker 15: a picture, it gives you a credential, which is your
[55:54] Speaker 15: driver's license, and then you can go around and drive
[55:57] Speaker 15: and use it whenever you want. But if there's a
[56:00] Speaker 15: need for you to present it in order to confirm
[56:02] Speaker 15: that you are a licensed driver, you can do that.
[56:05] Speaker 15: Now it's very different because we don't need to keep
[56:09] Speaker 15: any information at world, so it's quite different from other
[56:14] Speaker 15: technologies in that regard. We've built it from the ground
[56:16] Speaker 15: up to think about privacy and make sure that the
[56:18] Speaker 15: data is being held by the user.
[56:21] Speaker 1: But that's really what.
[56:22] Speaker 15: It's doing, is giving you what sometimes we'll call a
[56:24] Speaker 15: passport for being able to access online services and do
[56:27] Speaker 15: so in a private way.
[56:28] Speaker 1: Okay, So you've got these orbs set up in different places?
[56:31] Speaker 1: How many? I mean, I know there's one in Los Angeles.
[56:33] Speaker 1: Where else are they? I mean, you have to name
[56:35] Speaker 1: every city if there's a whole bunch, But there's a
[56:37] Speaker 1: whole bunch.
[56:38] Speaker 15: So we've got over fifteen hundred orbs that are currently
[56:40] Speaker 15: in use around the world. In the United States, we
[56:42] Speaker 15: have a couple hundred Okay, listen, yep, the big ones
[56:47] Speaker 15: San Francisco, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Austin, Texas, and we're continuing
[56:54] Speaker 15: to expand. We have a partnership with a company called
[56:56] Speaker 15: Razor that has a large number of retail stores around
[56:59] Speaker 15: the United States as well, and they're beginning to deploy
[57:01] Speaker 15: orbs in their storefronts.
[57:04] Speaker 1: So you go in there, you get scanned, and then what.
[57:08] Speaker 15: Then you have a world ID and you can use
[57:10] Speaker 15: that to connect to any service that wants to improve
[57:13] Speaker 15: the quality of their application. So you mentioned online dating.
[57:17] Speaker 16: We have a.
[57:17] Speaker 15: Partnership with the match group. They make Hinder, and they're
[57:21] Speaker 15: really concerned about making sure that people only build one
[57:25] Speaker 15: dating profile and that the information that's presented there is
[57:29] Speaker 15: reasonably accurate. They have a little fledge here and there
[57:32] Speaker 15: is fine, but reasonably accurate. And so what World does
[57:36] Speaker 15: is allow them to have a safer place for people
[57:38] Speaker 15: to meet their match online. In the gaming space, I
[57:42] Speaker 15: mentioned Razor earlier, there's a big concern about bots being
[57:46] Speaker 15: used to replace human gamers and that's just something that
[57:50] Speaker 15: the gamers don't like and it makes it much less
[57:52] Speaker 15: fun for everybody. And so that's another area where there's
[57:55] Speaker 15: a lot of interest in having confirmation that the people
[57:58] Speaker 15: you're playing with are real humans.
[58:00] Speaker 1: Are shaking their heads saying, yeah, that is a big problem.
[58:02] Speaker 1: So it's like like if I'm playing Mario Kart and
[58:05] Speaker 1: you know you've got all the like I mean, I
[58:06] Speaker 1: know this is simple explanation, but like sometimes you want
[58:09] Speaker 1: to play against you know, bots because they're just populating
[58:12] Speaker 1: the screen. But if you're in like a competitive gaming landscape.
[58:16] Speaker 1: You don't want these AI super gamers to have the
[58:20] Speaker 1: advantage over the humans, So you can say only humans
[58:23] Speaker 1: with this world ID are allowed into this game to
[58:25] Speaker 1: play like this round.
[58:27] Speaker 15: Yep, you could do that. You could have a tournament
[58:29] Speaker 15: where you have to have a world ID. There're a
[58:31] Speaker 15: variety of different approaches that could be taken. There was
[58:35] Speaker 15: something that cracked me up just a couple of days ago.
[58:37] Speaker 15: I guess there's a movie coming out called The Odyssey. Uh,
[58:40] Speaker 15: And I got a posting saying that every ticket has
[58:42] Speaker 15: been sold already for its opening, which is about a
[58:45] Speaker 15: year from now. And I was like, who, I hadn't
[58:47] Speaker 15: even heard that this movie was coming out. Who's bought
[58:50] Speaker 15: all these tickets? And then right after that I read, oh,
[58:52] Speaker 15: I see scalpers buy the tickets, right so they know
[58:55] Speaker 15: that this is going to be a big hit, so
[58:56] Speaker 15: they buy the tickets literally the day they become available
[58:59] Speaker 15: in a movie that has come out yet, and then
[59:00] Speaker 15: they're going to try to resell them. So that's another
[59:03] Speaker 15: use case that people are pretty excited about. Is a
[59:05] Speaker 15: world ID allows you to say one person is allowed
[59:08] Speaker 15: to buy a limited number of tickets, and that same
[59:11] Speaker 15: person has to be the one who then goes to
[59:13] Speaker 15: the movie.
[59:13] Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's huge, that's actually like really really interesting.
[59:18] Speaker 1: So with all these like Taylor Swift concerts, like the
[59:20] Speaker 1: you know where there's such a problem with like in
[59:24] Speaker 1: you know, just scalping and this and that you can
[59:26] Speaker 1: have it where ticket master whoever selling the ticket says no,
[59:29] Speaker 1: you have to have this ID. And by the way,
[59:32] Speaker 1: when you go to the door, it has to link
[59:34] Speaker 1: up with you. How would you confirm it's that person
[59:36] Speaker 1: at the door.
[59:36] Speaker 15: Well, you actually don't need to know who the person is.
[59:38] Speaker 15: You just need to know that the person to whom
[59:40] Speaker 15: the ticket was issued is the same one. And that's
[59:43] Speaker 15: that's one of the interesting things about our privacy model
[59:46] Speaker 15: is our goal is not to have you say that
[59:49] Speaker 15: you know, Adrian Ludwig went to this concert. Our goal
[59:52] Speaker 15: is to give you the same anonymity that you have
[59:54] Speaker 15: for a transaction right now, where you walk up to
[59:56] Speaker 15: a ticket booth, you pay cash, you get a ticket,
[59:58] Speaker 15: and then you walk into the movie and nobody knows
[59:59] Speaker 15: who it was. But to be able to do that
[1:00:01] Speaker 15: in a trustworthy way online and so that's what World
[1:00:05] Speaker 15: gives you is you can have an anonymous transaction where
[1:00:07] Speaker 15: you make a purchase and then that same person who
[1:00:11] Speaker 15: performed that purchase is the one that has to present
[1:00:13] Speaker 15: the ticket later and they can confirm that as you're
[1:00:15] Speaker 15: going through the gate. We're working on deploying that technology
[1:00:20] Speaker 15: for a concert service and a ticket service in Korea
[1:00:23] Speaker 15: right now actually, and we're open to conversations with anybody
[1:00:26] Speaker 15: that wants to do it anywhere else in the world.
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: Wow, that's really fascinating. So how many people have scanned
[1:00:32] Speaker 1: yet and explained this scan because you said it was
[1:00:34] Speaker 1: private and it's not necessarily or irish, like, explain what's
[1:00:37] Speaker 1: getting scanned?
[1:00:38] Speaker 15: Yeah, so there are thirteen million people and they actually
[1:00:42] Speaker 15: are people that have gone to an ORB around the
[1:00:45] Speaker 15: world and been verified as human. The way that that
[1:00:49] Speaker 15: happens the ORB is I like to think of it
[1:00:51] Speaker 15: as just a weird shaped camera. It's about the size
[1:00:54] Speaker 15: of a bowling ball. It is a sphere and inside
[1:00:59] Speaker 15: of it are a few different things. There's several different cameras.
[1:01:02] Speaker 15: One that is taking a picture of the entire face,
[1:01:05] Speaker 15: one that is taking a picture of the individual eye.
[1:01:08] Speaker 15: And when we're taking those pictures, the images are being
[1:01:12] Speaker 15: taken in both visible light and in infrared light. Infrared
[1:01:16] Speaker 15: light is really interesting because it gives you the ability
[1:01:18] Speaker 15: to see the sort of the bumps in a way
[1:01:21] Speaker 15: that you can't see invisible light. So the shape of
[1:01:24] Speaker 15: your skin is very different in infrared light. And similarly,
[1:01:29] Speaker 15: the eye, while it looks very smooth in visible light,
[1:01:32] Speaker 15: turns out to be very bumpy in infrared light. And
[1:01:35] Speaker 15: so what we're looking at is effectively the fingerprint of
[1:01:39] Speaker 15: each of the two irises that is the front of
[1:01:42] Speaker 15: your eye, and then using that to create a unique code,
[1:01:46] Speaker 15: and then confirming that this person has never signed up previously.
[1:01:50] Speaker 15: And so once that's done, they now have a verified
[1:01:53] Speaker 15: World ID and they can go use it with any
[1:01:56] Speaker 15: service that wants to have a World ID.
[1:01:59] Speaker 1: Is World keeping a database of all these pictures or
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: do they get deleted after they come up with the
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: number or what?
[1:02:05] Speaker 9: Now?
[1:02:05] Speaker 15: The pictures are taken on the ORB, The ORB analyzes
[1:02:08] Speaker 15: them to make sure that it's a real person. If
[1:02:11] Speaker 15: it is, then those pictures are actually given to the
[1:02:13] Speaker 15: person of whom they're taken, right, so they're transferred to
[1:02:17] Speaker 15: your phone and they're held on the user's phone. World
[1:02:20] Speaker 15: doesn't retain the images, doesn't have a reason to keep them,
[1:02:23] Speaker 15: we confirm that they're unique, and then at that point
[1:02:26] Speaker 15: the key the world idea that the user has registered
[1:02:29] Speaker 15: is allowed to be used, but there's no need for
[1:02:31] Speaker 15: World to retain any information. That's one of the things
[1:02:35] Speaker 15: that I think is most exciting is we've been focused
[1:02:38] Speaker 15: on privacy from the very beginning, which is different for frankly,
[1:02:43] Speaker 15: how most technologies are.
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: Like almost any any database is built on, you know,
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: keeping that those identifying characteristics in a database that if
[1:02:51] Speaker 1: it's hacked, it's like game over. So I know this
[1:02:55] Speaker 1: sounds funny and it's it's gonna sound silly, but like
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: in the future, and I know that everyone's that's walking up.
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: All these thirteen million people that you've quote unquote verified,
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: they've all been real humans. But there is a time
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: in the future when we may have walking robots that
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: try to confirm themselves as human and trick the system.
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: I mean, I know it sounds silly, but is that Like,
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: have you guys thought about that in the future, like
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: this system can't be tricked.
[1:03:21] Speaker 15: It's definitely something we've thought about. We've had people try
[1:03:23] Speaker 15: to verify their dogs so far that hasn't been successful.
[1:03:29] Speaker 15: We are also aware that there are people who are
[1:03:31] Speaker 15: trying to produce multiple identities, and they'll do that by
[1:03:34] Speaker 15: manipulating their face, whether it be makeup or a mask.
[1:03:37] Speaker 15: They might try to use contact lenses that make the
[1:03:40] Speaker 15: eye look a little bit different, and so there's a
[1:03:42] Speaker 15: lot of analysis that's going on on the ORB to
[1:03:45] Speaker 15: confirm that it is an unmanipulated image of a single
[1:03:49] Speaker 15: person and then go from there. Undoubtedly it's gonna be
[1:03:54] Speaker 15: what they call a cat and mouse game. All right,
[1:03:56] Speaker 15: It's gonna get more and more difficult over time, and
[1:03:58] Speaker 15: we're gonna have to invest more in making sure that
[1:03:59] Speaker 15: the ORB is detecting those types of attempts. But that's
[1:04:04] Speaker 15: that's something that we're thinking about him.
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: We've got less than a minute. I'm just curious, who
[1:04:08] Speaker 1: do you think should go get scanned? Like, what's the
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: biggest reason to get scanned right now?
[1:04:12] Speaker 15: So, one thing that people are really nervous about is
[1:04:15] Speaker 15: other people using their identity, and so we're focusing a
[1:04:19] Speaker 15: lot on making it possible for you to confirm who
[1:04:23] Speaker 15: it is that you're interacting with, like in a conference,
[1:04:25] Speaker 15: like a video conference or an audio conference. So if
[1:04:28] Speaker 15: you're concerned about that, definitely go get scanned, go have
[1:04:32] Speaker 15: your image taken of the ORB and become a verified
[1:04:34] Speaker 15: user world ID. In general, if you want to contribute
[1:04:38] Speaker 15: to an Internet in the future where there's more and
[1:04:41] Speaker 15: more opportunities for people as opposed to bots and automation,
[1:04:46] Speaker 15: then I think you're a good candidate as well.
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: And at some point you were giving people like a
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: little coin or something if they did this. Is that
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: still happening yep.
[1:04:53] Speaker 15: So there are lots of different offers that are made
[1:04:56] Speaker 15: by applications. It might be access to a premium tier
[1:04:59] Speaker 15: of their service. One of them is you know, the
[1:05:02] Speaker 15: network itself. The world network has value, uh, and there
[1:05:07] Speaker 15: is a token that reflects that value, and every person
[1:05:10] Speaker 15: who becomes verified has the opportunity if they want to
[1:05:14] Speaker 15: to own a part of the network.
[1:05:15] Speaker 1: Okay, and the website is World dot org. Is that correct?
[1:05:19] Speaker 1: That's correct? All right, World dot Org. Adrian Ludwig, thanks
[1:05:22] Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. Fascinating stuff World dot Org.
[1:05:26] Speaker 1: Check it out if you want to get your human
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: verification more. Rich on Tech come your way right after this.
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging
[1:05:38] Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at Triple eight. Rich one
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four two four one
[1:05:44] Speaker 1: zero one. Let's go to Kenneth in Hollywood, California. Kenneth,
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: you're on with Rich Hi?
[1:05:52] Speaker 5: Rich, Hi, how are you? My question? My question is
[1:05:58] Speaker 5: I have a I'm an electrical contractor and I have
[1:06:02] Speaker 5: an electric contracting company. So I have a Google a
[1:06:06] Speaker 5: Google phone number that for my business, and then I
[1:06:11] Speaker 5: also have my personal cell phone number that I've had
[1:06:14] Speaker 5: for years, and they both come to my cell phone
[1:06:18] Speaker 5: and I'm trying to figure out a way if there's
[1:06:19] Speaker 5: a way to differentiate the two so that I could
[1:06:24] Speaker 5: know how if it's a business call coming in through
[1:06:29] Speaker 5: my business Google business phone number versus my personal phone number.
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: Ah. Okay, so you're using the same phone, but you've
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: got to two phone numbers funneled to that device. Is
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: that what I'm understanding correct? And is the phone is that?
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: Is this a Google Voice number or is it a what?
[1:06:47] Speaker 1: What kind of phone numbers?
[1:06:48] Speaker 5: Okay, it's a Google Voice number that I pay monthly for.
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: Oh? Interesting, So you pay monthly for that? What what
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: do you but the benefit of paying monthly? What do
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: you get for that? Because I have Google Voice but
[1:06:58] Speaker 1: it's free.
[1:07:00] Speaker 5: I guess it's for a business line. I to be honest,
[1:07:03] Speaker 5: I haven't even been paying attention.
[1:07:05] Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, it's just.
[1:07:06] Speaker 5: Been it's been this, you know, funneling out of my accounts.
[1:07:11] Speaker 5: But yeah, but I'm trying to figure I'm trying to
[1:07:14] Speaker 5: like consolidate and you know, structure my business a little
[1:07:19] Speaker 5: better than the way I've been running it. So I
[1:07:21] Speaker 5: have my personal cell phone phone number and then I
[1:07:26] Speaker 5: honestly have my electual contracting phone number. So but when
[1:07:31] Speaker 5: they when I get calls, it doesn't say any there's
[1:07:35] Speaker 5: no It.
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: Just shows the person's number, shows the person who's calling
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: call a ready. Okay, Well there is a setting in
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: the consumer version of Google Voice, and you have to
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: check to see if it's in the business version that
[1:07:46] Speaker 1: will display your Google Voice number when someone calls instead
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: of their phone number. So would that work?
[1:07:55] Speaker 13: Yeah, I didn't know.
[1:07:56] Speaker 5: That's awesome. I didn't know there was upsetting. I'll look
[1:07:59] Speaker 5: into that. Or my next option was just to get
[1:08:02] Speaker 5: another phone, and then, well you.
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: Can do that, but if you can use the same phone.
[1:08:07] Speaker 1: So basically, there's a setting inside Google Voice if you
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: go into the settings that says, how do you want
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: to display the phone number. Do you want to display
[1:08:16] Speaker 1: the caller's number or do you want do you want
[1:08:18] Speaker 1: to display the Google Voice number? And so when you
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: display the Google Voice number, when you see that number,
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: you know that it is exactly so that is and
[1:08:32] Speaker 1: the option is called show my Google Voice number as
[1:08:35] Speaker 1: caller ID when forwarding calls. And you know this is
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: these are smart people at Google that have thought about
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: what you're talking about, and they're like, okay, well, how
[1:08:42] Speaker 1: would this person know if it's a business call or not? Now?
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: The only the only downside to that system is that
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: if you were using it, you know a lot of
[1:08:51] Speaker 1: contractors like to text back people that you know, call
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: them and things like that, like that would be a
[1:08:57] Speaker 1: little bit tricky because you would not have their phone
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: number in your phone. So that's the only downside to that.
[1:09:03] Speaker 1: But if you're answering your phone and they leave a
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: message or whatever, it's it all worked the same, So
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: you just won't have access to that ability of you know,
[1:09:11] Speaker 1: sometimes when I call a contractor, they'll just you know,
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: they'll text me back information or something right through. They'll
[1:09:16] Speaker 1: be like, yeah, just text me at this number. So
[1:09:18] Speaker 1: you wouldn't have access to that, So that would be
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: the only downside I can think of.
[1:09:22] Speaker 5: Do you have any recommendations as to being able to
[1:09:26] Speaker 5: say that, like still have that phone.
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: Number and then.
[1:09:31] Speaker 5: Have like a complete different system, like go to a
[1:09:36] Speaker 5: because I don't think I can go to a T
[1:09:38] Speaker 5: Mobile or Rise in store and then have them put
[1:09:40] Speaker 5: that phone number on their service.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, you usually can. You can ask for a second number.
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: Do you have a Do you have an iPhone or
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: Android iPhone? Oh you can. You can literally go right
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: now online to Tello or US Mobile, or you can
[1:09:54] Speaker 1: go to your Verizon eighteen ten. They will literally add
[1:09:57] Speaker 1: a second line to your phone now.
[1:09:59] Speaker 5: But I'm trying. I'm trying to keep that same phone
[1:10:01] Speaker 5: number because I'll I have so much client.
[1:10:03] Speaker 1: Tell that the Google. Yeah, they can transfer that. They can,
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: they can take it. They can pour it in. It's
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: called but here.
[1:10:08] Speaker 5: Who doesn't Google doesn't own the phone number, so they
[1:10:11] Speaker 5: they'll just give up.
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, they will poured it. It's called a it's
[1:10:14] Speaker 1: called a poort in. But here's the deal. I would
[1:10:17] Speaker 1: try this for the you know, I mean, you're already
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: paying ten dollars a month. It looks like minimum. So
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to the thing is you don't
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: want to be paying for a whole another line of
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: like ninety dollars a month. That's the thing you want
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: to do. So you could either do something like there's
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: like apps out there that are virtual numbers and some
[1:10:36] Speaker 1: of the let's see if Grasshopper. There's like there's like
[1:10:40] Speaker 1: virtual phone systems like Grasshopper. I would check out grasshopper
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: dot com. And there's a bunch of services like that
[1:10:48] Speaker 1: will actually put a virtual number on your phone as
[1:10:51] Speaker 1: an app. You can go that route, or you can
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: actually get a secondary sim like an e SIM with
[1:10:57] Speaker 1: a phone number, and you can just use like a
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: US Mobile or something to get a very inexpensive phone
[1:11:02] Speaker 1: line or a visible or a cricket and that you
[1:11:05] Speaker 1: can physically have that number. I believe Verizon specifically will
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: give you a second line. I think for like another
[1:11:11] Speaker 1: ten dollars a month. I think T Mobile does that.
[1:11:13] Speaker 1: Eighteen team may do it. Just inquire at your carrier first,
[1:11:16] Speaker 1: which one's your carrier, by the way, I Mobile, okay,
[1:11:19] Speaker 1: I think they do a second line for like you
[1:11:21] Speaker 1: can call them up and see if they will do
[1:11:23] Speaker 1: a second line that's connected to your primary line. That
[1:11:26] Speaker 1: does not cost the full like ninety dollars a month.
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: But that was and then what if?
[1:11:30] Speaker 5: What if I wanted an option to when UH customer
[1:11:33] Speaker 5: calls and.
[1:11:34] Speaker 1: Then for it to stay hang on, hang on, I
[1:11:37] Speaker 1: gotta I gotta run to break hold on. One second,
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: I'll put you on the line. You're on personal hold
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[1:12:05] Speaker 1: And I'm also on social media at rich on Tech,
[1:12:08] Speaker 1: So if you have a phone, you're on Instagram. Find
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[1:12:14] Speaker 1: cool stuff throughout the week and some silly stuff as well.
[1:12:18] Speaker 1: We had a caller asking about Google Voice and their business,
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: and we talked about that. I got a message from
[1:12:24] Speaker 1: Rod he said, Rich, I also use Google Voice for
[1:12:27] Speaker 1: my business, and I have the app installed it rings
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: my regular phone, but I set up call screening in
[1:12:32] Speaker 1: Google Voice, so it asks the caller for their name
[1:12:35] Speaker 1: or reason for calling. Then I can choose to accept
[1:12:38] Speaker 1: or reject the call right from my phone. It's been
[1:12:40] Speaker 1: a great way to manage contacts and avoid scam spam.
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: So that's another way to use it. Yeah, Google Voice
[1:12:47] Speaker 1: has been great. I actually I signed up for Google
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: Voice on day one. Let's see if I can find
[1:12:54] Speaker 1: the date grant it used to be called Grand Central.
[1:12:58] Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see what date that was Grand Central
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: March eleventh, two thousand and nine. That's oh no, okay, nope, sorry,
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: that's when. That's when Google relaunched it as as a
[1:13:13] Speaker 1: Google Voice. Wow, March eleventh, two thousand and nine, So
[1:13:16] Speaker 1: when did Grand Central launch. Let's see, Now I can't
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: find it. It's really tough to search something like Grand
[1:13:25] Speaker 1: Central launch because there's too many things called Grand Central.
[1:13:29] Speaker 1: But anyway, I was working at CeNAT at the time.
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: This was Grand Central was what Google Voice was called
[1:13:34] Speaker 1: before Google Voice. And this was back in the day
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: when you had a phone line at work, a phone,
[1:13:39] Speaker 1: a cell phone which were just kind of coming up,
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: and then a phone line at home. And so the
[1:13:43] Speaker 1: idea behind Grand Central was that you would give people
[1:13:46] Speaker 1: this one phone number and it would ring all three
[1:13:49] Speaker 1: of those lines at the same time, and then you
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: would pick up the one that you were near. And
[1:13:54] Speaker 1: of course Google bought them almost instantly rebranded them as
[1:13:58] Speaker 1: Google Voice, and the rest is history. Let's go to
[1:14:01] Speaker 1: Wayne in your Belinda. Wayne, you're on with Rich.
[1:14:04] Speaker 13: All right, Rich, quick question, h I have both Androy
[1:14:09] Speaker 13: and iPhone, but most of that andoy, I've tried to
[1:14:13] Speaker 13: find the apps where some something can while I'm driving,
[1:14:18] Speaker 13: have the the text message anyway, they can read it
[1:14:23] Speaker 13: over to me, voice out to me.
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: Okay, so you want your phone to read your text
[1:14:31] Speaker 1: to you while you're driving, correct, yes, and your apps
[1:14:34] Speaker 1: read well. We just tested one for Android that is
[1:14:40] Speaker 1: it does exactly what you want. I don't know how
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: good it is over the time, over long term, but uh,
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: what's I got my kid here? We tested it. What's
[1:14:48] Speaker 1: it called Tanner? Oh? Here you go.
[1:14:53] Speaker 8: It's called Read My Text Messages. It has like ads
[1:14:57] Speaker 8: every time you open it, but it it does the job.
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: Well, it does the job. So Wayne, It's not pretty,
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: but it is simple. And so you install this app
[1:15:06] Speaker 1: on your phone on Android. It's called Read My Text
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: Messages and you toggle it on and it reads your
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: messages and then you can also there's one. There's only
[1:15:15] Speaker 1: two simple toggles read messages and then repeat messages. So
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: if you want it to read it out twice, it
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: will do that. The only thing is you have to
[1:15:23] Speaker 1: give it permission to access your text. And the other
[1:15:26] Speaker 1: annoying thing is the ads, but you can remove them.
[1:15:29] Speaker 1: Let's see how much it is to remove them. It
[1:15:31] Speaker 1: is a dollar ninety nine, so well well worth the
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: dollar ninety nine to remove those ads. Do you not
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: Do you not have Android Auto on your phone?
[1:15:40] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[1:15:40] Speaker 1: I do, yes, So when you get a text, can't
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: you just have Android Auto read it to you?
[1:15:46] Speaker 13: Oh, I never picked it out. I never know they
[1:15:48] Speaker 13: have the function.
[1:15:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, so Android Auto, when you get the text, you
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: should be able to tap the text again and it
[1:15:54] Speaker 1: will just speak it to you. If there's not a
[1:15:55] Speaker 1: little play button. It's been a while since I used
[1:15:57] Speaker 1: Android Auto, but there's typic. If you tap the text again,
[1:16:01] Speaker 1: it'll read it to you, or you can just press play,
[1:16:04] Speaker 1: or you can use your Hey, Google, read me that
[1:16:07] Speaker 1: last text will It will do that, So that's another
[1:16:10] Speaker 1: way of doing it. And same thing in the iPhone.
[1:16:13] Speaker 1: You should be able to ask it Siri to read
[1:16:16] Speaker 1: your last text and it should work. I haven't tested
[1:16:18] Speaker 1: that right here, but I have no reason to believe
[1:16:20] Speaker 1: it wouldn't work. But those are two ways to do it. Whane,
[1:16:22] Speaker 1: I'm glad you're trying to keep your eyes on the road,
[1:16:25] Speaker 1: your hands on the wheel, and you know, I say
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: at the end of every show, do not text while driving.
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: Please do not text while driving. I see it. It's
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: an epidemic. It's an epidemic of distracted drivers, and it
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: is really bad. It's causing accidents. People run into each other.
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: Almost every single accident I see on the side of
[1:16:47] Speaker 1: the road, I say, that's guaranteed that was because of
[1:16:50] Speaker 1: distracted driving, because people are bumping into each other. They're
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: just literally bumping into each other. How does that happen?
[1:16:56] Speaker 1: That happens when you are not looking at the car
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: in front of you, because you're looking down. And I
[1:17:00] Speaker 1: see it every day. People are sitting there and believe me,
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: I look, I am not holier than thou here. Believe me.
[1:17:06] Speaker 1: I want to text my entire drive like we're all
[1:17:09] Speaker 1: getting texts, right, and I really do I text while drive.
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: Don't be honest, No, you don't.
[1:17:15] Speaker 2: Uh.
[1:17:16] Speaker 8: Whenever you get a text message, Uh, you don't even
[1:17:19] Speaker 8: look at your phone. You literally just focus. But another
[1:17:22] Speaker 8: thing I want to say is that I see people
[1:17:25] Speaker 8: literally looking at their phones when they're crossing the road
[1:17:29] Speaker 8: at a crosswalk, and like, I'm just thinking, what if
[1:17:32] Speaker 8: someone ran that light and they got hurt?
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: Like, yeah, well that's why that's called survival of the fittest.
[1:17:40] Speaker 8: Like, what's the point of looking at your phone? Like
[1:17:42] Speaker 8: your life could be at state?
[1:17:45] Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, I'm not kidding.
[1:17:47] Speaker 6: We are.
[1:17:47] Speaker 1: We are building a world of zombies. You're you've seen
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: the zombie movies, right, and it looks scary the blood
[1:17:54] Speaker 1: coming out of their mouth and stuff. No, we already
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: are here. We are the zombies. We are literally beholden
[1:18:00] Speaker 1: to these tiny screens that we hold and we look
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: at them. We fall into fountains, we fall off cliffs.
[1:18:06] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding. These are all things that
[1:18:08] Speaker 1: have happened. Cars run into us because we are so
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: unaware as humans with this thing in front of us,
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: and we can't get enough of it. And it's just
[1:18:18] Speaker 1: like now we get the watch, so the watch goes off,
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: you get that ping. I mean soon they're just gonna
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: pop it right in your brain and you'll just get
[1:18:23] Speaker 1: that little bizz right when you need it. Speaking of phones,
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: Apple launched an emoji game this week and Apple News Plus.
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: It's called Emoji Game, and you are challenged to fill
[1:18:35] Speaker 1: in the blanks of three short phrases using emojis, and
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: some of them are actually generated by Apple's ai called
[1:18:41] Speaker 1: gen Mooji. Each puzzle has a bunch of clues you
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: can reveal, but the whole point of this is to
[1:18:47] Speaker 1: figure this out in the least amount of moves total.
[1:18:50] Speaker 1: So you can just drag all the emojis to the words,
[1:18:53] Speaker 1: but that's gonna cost you your turns. So if you
[1:18:56] Speaker 1: like emojis and you like these puzzle games, this could
[1:18:59] Speaker 1: be fun. I tried playing it. I mean, maybe I'll
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: give it another chance. I'm not a big emoji guy,
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: Like I just don't really care that much about them,
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: and so I I don't know, It's like, it doesn't
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: really appeal to me per se. But it's fun and
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: it's different, and if you're looking for kind of like
[1:19:13] Speaker 1: that brain challenge, that is that is nice. So again,
[1:19:17] Speaker 1: if you're a you do have to be an Apple
[1:19:20] Speaker 1: Newsplus subscriber for this to work, so you have to
[1:19:23] Speaker 1: be paying for Apple News Plus. But if you are,
[1:19:26] Speaker 1: by the way, you have access to a whole bunch
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: of games and things inside Apple News Plus.
[1:19:31] Speaker 8: Yes, Like, my dad plays crosswords at a lot of
[1:19:35] Speaker 8: places when he's bored, and I think Apple Newsplus is
[1:19:39] Speaker 8: worth it.
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: Oh you think it's worth something? You're not paying for what? No?
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
[1:19:45] Speaker 8: I just think it's good to challenge your brain.
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: Like, I agree.
[1:19:47] Speaker 8: Like I like a good brain teaser, or like those
[1:19:50] Speaker 8: crossword games.
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: I agree. Uh, let's go to Stan Stands in uh
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: Granada Hills. You're on with Rich and my kids.
[1:19:59] Speaker 4: Hey, Rich, that's how you doing.
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: I'm doing great. What's up Stan? You don't text and drive,
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: do you?
[1:20:05] Speaker 4: Of course I drive.
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: I don't text when I drive back. I I'm just
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: beginning to learn how to text.
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: Oh well good, then don't don't learn how to text
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: with one hand on the wheel. Don't don't get that.
[1:20:19] Speaker 2: No, no, no, I use the voice the type of
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: text thing perfect the microphone. But I'm an analog person.
[1:20:28] Speaker 2: I've been doing that for many, many years. I repair
[1:20:30] Speaker 2: and resurrect old turntables, record players.
[1:20:33] Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, Yeah it is.
[1:20:35] Speaker 4: I like it.
[1:20:35] Speaker 2: I've been doing it since nineteen fifty nine.
[1:20:38] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So people bring in like an old
[1:20:39] Speaker 1: school like a what like a photograph kind of thing?
[1:20:43] Speaker 2: Exactly right?
[1:20:44] Speaker 1: And huh, how do you get the parts for these things?
[1:20:46] Speaker 2: Well, there's still some parts available. Sometimes we have to
[1:20:52] Speaker 2: work around whatever we can. And sometimes I take parts
[1:20:56] Speaker 2: off of an old turntable and you know, whatever is
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: there if I and the left and go from there.
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: Wow, okay, that's cool. What's your favorite album all time?
[1:21:06] Speaker 2: Wow? I have so many of them. Right off. The
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: first one comes to mind is the Four Seasons by Vivaldi.
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: The also Four Seasons by Vivaldi.
[1:21:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it's a oh.
[1:21:28] Speaker 1: I got it, got it violent stuff. Okay, all right,
[1:21:32] Speaker 1: Bobo's rushing me along here. We got to get to break.
[1:21:34] Speaker 1: So what's what's the question you said you have?
[1:21:37] Speaker 2: Well, my question is I'm I'm trying to get learn
[1:21:41] Speaker 2: a little bit more about computers. And I have an
[1:21:44] Speaker 2: iPhone seven, which is a very old It's been upgraded
[1:21:48] Speaker 2: by Apple, I say, because I needed a new battery,
[1:21:51] Speaker 2: so they upgraded it. But I need more storage for
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: my pictures. And then whatever comes up it says it's
[1:21:58] Speaker 2: been disabled.
[1:22:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
[1:22:01] Speaker 2: An iPad that was given to me as a gift,
[1:22:03] Speaker 2: and I don't know how to connect them together to
[1:22:06] Speaker 2: my phone, and I just have so many questions.
[1:22:10] Speaker 1: Well, we have a whole nother hour. We may have
[1:22:13] Speaker 1: to go to break Well while I'm explaining, but what
[1:22:15] Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Do you want a
[1:22:16] Speaker 1: new phone? Do you want a new laptop? Do you
[1:22:18] Speaker 1: want a new iPad? Do you want to just connect them?
[1:22:19] Speaker 1: What do you what are you trying to do?
[1:22:21] Speaker 2: I want to I would love to connect the iPad
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: to my phone, and I would love to get more
[1:22:25] Speaker 2: out of my phone, more use out of my phone.
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: Well, I'll be honest, and iPhone seven is out of
[1:22:32] Speaker 1: uh it's end of life, which means there's no more
[1:22:35] Speaker 1: software updates for it. There's no more there's no more
[1:22:38] Speaker 1: support for it. So you are at risk of you know,
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: anything that could you know, exploits, let's say, and apps
[1:22:46] Speaker 1: may no longer update or install in that device. So
[1:22:49] Speaker 1: I would if I were you, what I would do
[1:22:52] Speaker 1: is what my kid has a suggestion? What is it?
[1:22:56] Speaker 8: I would recommend the iPhone sixteen E. It's like small,
[1:23:01] Speaker 8: like the iPhone seven, and it's like lightweight, and it's
[1:23:05] Speaker 8: not like a huge phone like today. I mean I
[1:23:08] Speaker 8: kind of tested it for a while and I just
[1:23:11] Speaker 8: think it's a really good phone. Yeah, pas storage, it's
[1:23:14] Speaker 8: good for like the everyday use.
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. So I would say,
[1:23:17] Speaker 1: if you're going to upgrade your iPhone seven, go with
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: the sixteen E. It's about six hundred bucks. I know
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: you didn't call to spend money, but if you want
[1:23:25] Speaker 1: to get up to speed on this stuff, and if
[1:23:27] Speaker 1: your phone is fine, you're not doing a lot of
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: banking and stuff on it, and you don't care about
[1:23:31] Speaker 1: the apps, you can still use it. It's just you
[1:23:33] Speaker 1: have to remember that it's not supported anymore with the
[1:23:37] Speaker 1: with the iPad. If you want to link them up,
[1:23:40] Speaker 1: you just have to sign in with the same iCloud ID.
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: Do you have an Apple ID for your phone?
[1:23:45] Speaker 4: No?
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: I don't, Okay, all right, So get an Apple ID,
[1:23:48] Speaker 1: sign up for that, and then sign in on both
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: your iPhone and the iPad with the same one, and
[1:23:54] Speaker 1: that will get you on the journey of connecting those things,
[1:23:56] Speaker 1: and your text messages will come through the iPad, your
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: photos will come through the I've had your bookmarks, all
[1:24:01] Speaker 1: that good stuff. Stan, I wish we had you for
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: the whole show. Do you got so many questions? That's
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: going to do it? What we got to go to break?
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to Rich on Tech.
[1:24:12] Speaker 1: Let's go to Michelle in Glendale, California. Michelle, you're on
[1:24:17] Speaker 1: with Rich and Family. What's up?
[1:24:20] Speaker 9: Okay? Apple sent me a message that my iCloud storage
[1:24:26] Speaker 9: is full and suggested elevate my to upgrade my storage
[1:24:34] Speaker 9: by paying nine months. It's called stop storage. But I
[1:24:38] Speaker 9: don't really want to do that. So I want to know, Oh,
[1:24:42] Speaker 9: what is your best advice of what kind of device
[1:24:46] Speaker 9: or option that you can advise the best way to
[1:24:50] Speaker 9: stopping my photos?
[1:24:51] Speaker 14: First?
[1:24:51] Speaker 9: Do that? Do that device or app? And then after
[1:24:56] Speaker 9: I do it, then then delete photos on my phone.
[1:25:02] Speaker 1: Okay, so the first my first question for you is
[1:25:05] Speaker 1: are you positive that this email you got is legitimate
[1:25:09] Speaker 1: from Apple?
[1:25:11] Speaker 9: No, it's not a They didn't send me by email.
[1:25:14] Speaker 9: They just send it to me by I guess by text.
[1:25:19] Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's that's a red flag. Now now
[1:25:23] Speaker 1: here's the thing. So the thing is the first thing
[1:25:27] Speaker 1: we want to do is go on your phone. Do
[1:25:29] Speaker 1: you have your iPhone with you or you on it
[1:25:30] Speaker 1: right now.
[1:25:33] Speaker 9: Yeah, I have the iPhone with me.
[1:25:35] Speaker 1: Okay, So you want to go to your phone and
[1:25:39] Speaker 1: then settings, and then up at the top it has
[1:25:42] Speaker 1: your name and it says iCloud. So you want to
[1:25:46] Speaker 1: tap there, and then you want to tap iCloud one
[1:25:49] Speaker 1: more time. Can you do that while we're on the
[1:25:51] Speaker 1: line here or no?
[1:25:53] Speaker 9: Yeah, because I actually have two phones?
[1:25:58] Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, So so follow along. So we got settings.
[1:26:02] Speaker 1: Are you there yet?
[1:26:03] Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm already there.
[1:26:04] Speaker 1: Settings, iCloud up at the top. You see your name
[1:26:06] Speaker 1: or your your Apple account all the way at the top,
[1:26:09] Speaker 1: right right, yeah, top of that. Okay. Now, now in
[1:26:12] Speaker 1: this list where it says your name, you're a little
[1:26:14] Speaker 1: you have a emoji set up? Or no, a like
[1:26:21] Speaker 1: a little picture of you up at the top. No, okay,
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Oh got it your initials. O. Guess
[1:26:29] Speaker 1: you're on the right page. And now you see where
[1:26:30] Speaker 1: it says I cloud. Wait minute, kind of like under
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: it says personal information, sign in, payment, and how much
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: does it say under next to I Cloud? What does
[1:26:42] Speaker 1: this say there? Two hundred two hundred gigabytes? Okay, perfect?
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: Now tap in there and let's see what it says
[1:26:51] Speaker 1: up at the top or it says storage. What does
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: it say there?
[1:26:54] Speaker 9: Arge pool?
[1:26:57] Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So so the email is legitimate, and the
[1:27:02] Speaker 1: email is or the text or whatever they sent you
[1:27:04] Speaker 1: is legitimate.
[1:27:05] Speaker 9: So oh, actually they didn't send it to me by text.
[1:27:08] Speaker 9: They have a notation here below saying to upgrade the
[1:27:12] Speaker 9: two TV.
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you think you could fill two terabytes?
[1:27:18] Speaker 1: I don't think so that's a lot. Yeah, I don't
[1:27:20] Speaker 1: need No, you don't need that. Okay. So the first
[1:27:22] Speaker 1: thing I want you to do before you go ahead
[1:27:24] Speaker 1: and try to do anything else, go into this storage
[1:27:27] Speaker 1: and you'll see there's a whole bunch of things underneath
[1:27:31] Speaker 1: it where it says like iCloud drive, backups, messages. Do
[1:27:36] Speaker 1: you see all that?
[1:27:38] Speaker 9: I mean, I go back?
[1:27:39] Speaker 1: No, no, just tapport says storage up at the top
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: and see and it'll show you what's taking up your storage.
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: So a lot of times, your your backups of old
[1:27:52] Speaker 1: iPhones and your I messages are taking up a ton
[1:27:56] Speaker 1: of storage. So for instance, my backups are taking up
[1:27:59] Speaker 1: four hun gigabytes and my messages I message is taking
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: up twelve gigabytes. Now why do I need twelve gigabytes
[1:28:05] Speaker 1: of I message I probably don't. So my point is
[1:28:08] Speaker 1: you can go in there and clear out some things. Now,
[1:28:11] Speaker 1: if you back out on that screen, it also says
[1:28:15] Speaker 1: recommended for you, and it will show you a couple
[1:28:18] Speaker 1: of ways to clear out your storage as well. So
[1:28:22] Speaker 1: there's another place I want you to look on your
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: phone if you go to Settings, and I can't do
[1:28:26] Speaker 1: this all on the phone, so you've got to run
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: to break But if you go to Settings General, there
[1:28:31] Speaker 1: is one that's called iPhone Storage and you can tap
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: that and some of that will tell you what's taking
[1:28:37] Speaker 1: up the storage on your iPhone, which is then a
[1:28:39] Speaker 1: lot of times reflected into your iCloud. So with all
[1:28:44] Speaker 1: that said, I think the first thing you should do
[1:28:45] Speaker 1: is probably clear out some things on your phone that
[1:28:48] Speaker 1: you don't need. That's number one. But if you want
[1:28:51] Speaker 1: to offload some of these photos to somewhere else, if
[1:28:55] Speaker 1: you're a Prime member on Amazon, you can upload unlimited
[1:28:59] Speaker 1: for free there, or you can get a USB drive
[1:29:01] Speaker 1: if you check my Instagram at rich on Tech, I
[1:29:03] Speaker 1: can show you how to transfer your photos from your
[1:29:06] Speaker 1: iPhone to a flash drive. More rich on Tech. Right
[1:29:09] Speaker 1: after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro
[1:29:14] Speaker 1: here hanging out with you, talking technology. The website for
[1:29:17] Speaker 1: the show is rich on Tech dot tv. You can
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram at rich on Tech. I do
[1:29:25] Speaker 1: post a decent amount of stuff on Instagram. Usually I
[1:29:27] Speaker 1: try to be helpful there. So this week I did
[1:29:31] Speaker 1: post how to transfer your photos from your iPhone or
[1:29:34] Speaker 1: Android to a flash drive and it's a very simple process.
[1:29:40] Speaker 1: You can transfer them, then you can clear out the
[1:29:42] Speaker 1: space on your phone whatever you want to do. I
[1:29:43] Speaker 1: will say I'm not making this into a competition, but
[1:29:46] Speaker 1: the iPhone video has like one hundred and thirty five
[1:29:49] Speaker 1: thousand views. The Android video has only fourteen thousand. Where's
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: the wamp wamph And then I also have an explain
[1:29:59] Speaker 1: an explainer on the ring hacking situation that is is
[1:30:03] Speaker 1: or is not a real situation. We're not really sure,
[1:30:05] Speaker 1: but anyway, that's all rich on Tech on Instagram follow
[1:30:08] Speaker 1: me there. Uh and we have a guest right now.
[1:30:11] Speaker 1: Logan Seacrest is a fellow at the r Street Institute.
[1:30:15] Speaker 1: They have a new report about body cameras on police
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: and specifically AI how that's being used or should be
[1:30:23] Speaker 1: used on these cameras. Logan, thanks for joining me today.
[1:30:26] Speaker 15: Yeah, thanks for having me rich.
[1:30:28] Speaker 1: So the past, the present, and future of police body cameras.
[1:30:32] Speaker 1: We know that these body cameras are very prevalent. What
[1:30:36] Speaker 1: what do you what's the reason for their uptake in
[1:30:39] Speaker 1: the world here.
[1:30:41] Speaker 16: So I think the reason for their uptake is that
[1:30:44] Speaker 16: they are you know, potentially very very useful. Body cameras
[1:30:49] Speaker 16: are useful evidentiary uses obviously, and they have a training
[1:30:53] Speaker 16: uses for for.
[1:30:54] Speaker 1: Police as well.
[1:30:57] Speaker 16: You know, I think one of the reasons that AI
[1:30:59] Speaker 16: is apply to them is that for many years, body
[1:31:03] Speaker 16: cameras have produced many, many thousands of hours of video,
[1:31:08] Speaker 16: particularly for a large law enforcement agency. You know, almost
[1:31:11] Speaker 16: eighty percent of agencies in the United States use body cameras,
[1:31:15] Speaker 16: and the sheer volume of this footage that the cameras
[1:31:19] Speaker 16: generated has created a data data management problem that agencies
[1:31:22] Speaker 16: have struggled with for years. So as a result, you know,
[1:31:25] Speaker 16: vast amounts of footage kind of just languished on servers,
[1:31:29] Speaker 16: you know, unlaunched, uncatalog, unused. You know, this is a
[1:31:32] Speaker 16: vast reservoir of untapped lal enforcement intel. Really, so AI
[1:31:36] Speaker 16: systems are able to scan you know, hundreds of hours
[1:31:39] Speaker 16: of video and seconds and you know, I've looked at
[1:31:42] Speaker 16: some early pilot programs that suggest that AI video review,
[1:31:46] Speaker 16: you know, jagely, when guided by human oversight, can uncover
[1:31:50] Speaker 16: evidence that might otherwise go overlooked, or identify potential instances.
[1:31:55] Speaker 1: Of off service conduct.
[1:31:56] Speaker 16: You know, you can even you can even generate the
[1:31:58] Speaker 16: first draft of a police report. Uh so, yeah, there's
[1:32:02] Speaker 16: there's a lot of.
[1:32:02] Speaker 1: Uses for this technology. Oh wow, that's fascinating because I
[1:32:05] Speaker 1: just recently did a story with a very similar use
[1:32:09] Speaker 1: where basically a company would come in and put their
[1:32:12] Speaker 1: little box in connected to all of the security cameras
[1:32:16] Speaker 1: in a store, and basically, you know, nobody could watch
[1:32:19] Speaker 1: all the footage from security cameras, but AI can, and
[1:32:22] Speaker 1: so AI would flag things like theft in real time
[1:32:27] Speaker 1: by scanning all this footage. And that's very interesting what
[1:32:30] Speaker 1: you're saying about these bodycam footage. It's like, okay, we've
[1:32:33] Speaker 1: got it, and a lot of times if something bubbles
[1:32:35] Speaker 1: up and it's like a huge thing, of course they're
[1:32:37] Speaker 1: going to go back to that video. But what about
[1:32:39] Speaker 1: all the other stuff that happens. And so that's the
[1:32:42] Speaker 1: question of you know, I could see good and bad
[1:32:44] Speaker 1: for this because number one, like you said police officer misconduct.
[1:32:48] Speaker 1: You know, the AI might flag for that. But also
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: when you can identify everyone in a crowd because of AI,
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: that's where it gets interesting as well.
[1:32:58] Speaker 16: Right, Yeah, I think I think it's really really interesting
[1:33:01] Speaker 16: you bring that up, you know, because contextually it matters
[1:33:04] Speaker 16: a lot here. Yeah, you know, you look at a
[1:33:06] Speaker 16: at a major international airport, you know, something like LAX
[1:33:10] Speaker 16: where you know, terrorism as a serious threat. Uh, these
[1:33:13] Speaker 16: kind of systems AI video systems can save lives. You know,
[1:33:18] Speaker 16: you take the same technology, you put it on a
[1:33:20] Speaker 16: body camera, and you take it to a protest in
[1:33:23] Speaker 16: a public park. Uh, you know, the same that same
[1:33:26] Speaker 16: technology is a serious threat to civil liberties, you know,
[1:33:30] Speaker 16: so what place it would start? Just you know, in
[1:33:34] Speaker 16: terms of regulating, some of this is limiting the use
[1:33:37] Speaker 16: of facial recognition during some of those constitutionally protected activities
[1:33:42] Speaker 16: like a peaceful protest. You know, a system that makes
[1:33:46] Speaker 16: sense you know in a bank or you know on
[1:33:50] Speaker 16: some kind of mass transit system maybe doesn't doesn't make
[1:33:54] Speaker 16: sense you know, on every corner on it, in every
[1:33:57] Speaker 16: street front. The public private partnership aspect of this is
[1:34:05] Speaker 16: pretty interesting because there's there's new uh uh there's these
[1:34:08] Speaker 16: kind of new UH agreements between private businesses and law
[1:34:15] Speaker 16: enforcement agencies that are creating shared networks, and they're places
[1:34:20] Speaker 16: like New Orleans and Tulsa and other places are applying
[1:34:23] Speaker 16: AI to these shared networks, you know, and that that
[1:34:26] Speaker 16: potentially opens up a situation where police have a three
[1:34:31] Speaker 16: hundred and sixty degree coverage of a neighborhood or even
[1:34:34] Speaker 16: entire city, operating continuously day and night, uh and without
[1:34:41] Speaker 16: any kind of uh, you know, oversight or restriction and
[1:34:43] Speaker 16: and and that's the kind of kind of black mirror
[1:34:46] Speaker 16: dystopian future that I think we want to avoid in
[1:34:48] Speaker 16: the United States.
[1:34:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of this really does come down
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: to some of the regulations and standards that we have,
[1:34:55] Speaker 1: because every police department operates independently, right, Like, there's not
[1:34:58] Speaker 1: like one kind of national system that regulates all of these,
[1:35:03] Speaker 1: right So it's and I think a lot of it
[1:35:05] Speaker 1: is being pushed by these companies that create the cameras
[1:35:09] Speaker 1: because obviously they want to sell them and get them
[1:35:11] Speaker 1: used as much as possible, and of course the storage
[1:35:14] Speaker 1: and things like that. So I mean, what is the solution.
[1:35:17] Speaker 1: Is it the you know, the policies or what, Yeah.
[1:35:22] Speaker 16: I think it really is. You know, the technology, the
[1:35:26] Speaker 16: technology is a tool. The technology is like any other
[1:35:29] Speaker 16: powerful technology.
[1:35:30] Speaker 1: It can be used for for good or for ill.
[1:35:34] Speaker 16: You know, whether it's used for for good or ill
[1:35:38] Speaker 16: comes down to the policy guardrails that we put in place.
[1:35:42] Speaker 16: You know, the line between public safety and state surveillance
[1:35:47] Speaker 16: isn't really in the technology, but it is in those
[1:35:49] Speaker 16: policies that government that government. You know, here in our Street,
[1:35:55] Speaker 16: we saw that AI was kind of transforming some of
[1:35:58] Speaker 16: the house and these law enforcement video systems work, and
[1:36:02] Speaker 16: nobody had kind of mapped the risks and opportunities clearly.
[1:36:05] Speaker 16: So the report is basically to help policy makers catch up.
[1:36:09] Speaker 16: You know, I think sometimes in public policy we're always
[1:36:12] Speaker 16: complaining that that we're behind the technology, right and at
[1:36:15] Speaker 16: our Street, we're trying to get policy makers in front
[1:36:18] Speaker 16: of the technology for once rather than rather than playing catchup.
[1:36:22] Speaker 1: So they can understand what's coming, what the implications are
[1:36:25] Speaker 1: of this. Because when you really like, this is not
[1:36:28] Speaker 1: I've always thought of this idea of the AI stuff
[1:36:31] Speaker 1: that's coming on board, it's like it is superhuman. And
[1:36:33] Speaker 1: that's the big difference is that, you know, if you
[1:36:36] Speaker 1: wanted to put a camera at every intersection that spit
[1:36:40] Speaker 1: out a ticket for every single person that does something
[1:36:42] Speaker 1: wrong at that intersection. I know we have read light
[1:36:44] Speaker 1: cameras and those are controversial in their own aspect of
[1:36:47] Speaker 1: their own regard. But you know, when I was a kid,
[1:36:50] Speaker 1: I had this idea of a car that what if
[1:36:52] Speaker 1: your car like there's nothing in this day and age
[1:36:55] Speaker 1: that we have with our cars that are basically iPhones
[1:36:57] Speaker 1: on wheels from literally looking at the law and saying, oh,
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: you're going over the speed lemit here, let's spit out
[1:37:03] Speaker 1: a ticket. Let's email it to your house right like
[1:37:06] Speaker 1: that that could happen. And the reason it doesn't is
[1:37:08] Speaker 1: because we have kind of protocols in place where that
[1:37:11] Speaker 1: is not something that happens in America. But with AI
[1:37:15] Speaker 1: and technology, it's kind of challenging all of this stuff
[1:37:18] Speaker 1: because what's possible now was never possible before.
[1:37:22] Speaker 16: That's right, And I think that's that's one of the
[1:37:25] Speaker 16: things to that is different about AI as a technology
[1:37:32] Speaker 16: is such a powerful force multiplier and fundamentally change the
[1:37:38] Speaker 16: balance of power between the public and the government, between
[1:37:43] Speaker 16: the people and the government, and that is in the
[1:37:46] Speaker 16: United States a very delicate balance that we always have
[1:37:49] Speaker 16: to be kind of fine tuning and watching. So this
[1:37:53] Speaker 16: technology has the potential to really throw that balance out
[1:37:58] Speaker 16: of whack. If the government is able to watched you
[1:38:01] Speaker 16: wherever you go, identify every place that you are, without
[1:38:06] Speaker 16: any kind of barriers or or or warrants or kind
[1:38:11] Speaker 16: of judicial and legal oversight, then that is, uh, that
[1:38:15] Speaker 16: that poys us some pretty pretty challenge challenging, uh challenging problems,
[1:38:19] Speaker 16: UH similiberty sis constitutionally speaking, and uh, that's we We
[1:38:26] Speaker 16: want this technology because it is it is, it can
[1:38:29] Speaker 16: be very useful.
[1:38:29] Speaker 1: We just need to implement.
[1:38:30] Speaker 16: It in a way that uh is in line with
[1:38:34] Speaker 16: American ideals.
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: Yeah. It reminds me of these TV shows where they're
[1:38:38] Speaker 1: looking for someone and they're like, all right, now, give
[1:38:40] Speaker 1: me a scan of all the cameras in the area,
[1:38:42] Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, it seemed unrealistic and you know,
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: probably very time consuming. But in the future that is
[1:38:49] Speaker 1: something that is actually very easily done with AI and
[1:38:53] Speaker 1: with these networks of cameras and you know, the unlimited
[1:38:57] Speaker 1: server space and things like this, like that is a
[1:39:00] Speaker 1: possibility to track someone down very quickly and easily. And
[1:39:03] Speaker 1: we already do it, but it's probably much more manual
[1:39:05] Speaker 1: than it could be in the future. So really interesting stuff.
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: Where can folks find this report?
[1:39:13] Speaker 16: Yeah, the the R Street website is always always a
[1:39:16] Speaker 16: good place for that. It's www dot or street dot org.
[1:39:20] Speaker 16: It'll be there, and you know it's on our on
[1:39:22] Speaker 16: our social media feeds. Uh, it's pretty easy to find
[1:39:25] Speaker 16: if you if you just google a body camera or
[1:39:27] Speaker 16: street that will also pop up them.
[1:39:29] Speaker 1: All right, Logan Seacrest at the R Street Institute, thanks
[1:39:34] Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. Thanks rich all right,
[1:39:37] Speaker 1: really appreciate it. All Right, we're gonna go to break.
[1:39:40] Speaker 1: We got the feedbag coming up. We're gonna talk to
[1:39:42] Speaker 1: my kids about a couple of things on their mind,
[1:39:45] Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna wrap up the show rich on
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: Tech dot TV. We'll be right back. Welcome back to
[1:39:55] Speaker 1: Rich on Tech. A couple of headlines to get to
[1:39:57] Speaker 1: before we talk to my kids and then get to
[1:39:58] Speaker 1: the feedbag. First off, you haven't checked your bitcoin. If
[1:40:02] Speaker 1: you've got it, definitely check it. It has been surging
[1:40:06] Speaker 1: in the past week, up twenty eight percent for the year.
[1:40:09] Speaker 1: I would give you all the reasons why, but there's
[1:40:11] Speaker 1: never really a reason. Just check it out and see
[1:40:13] Speaker 1: if you have it. It's kind of fun to watch
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: if you've got it. Finally, it's back up Chrome. If
[1:40:19] Speaker 1: you're on Android, lets you move the address bar to
[1:40:21] Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen. So if you open up
[1:40:24] Speaker 1: Chrome on your Android, you see a little message that says, hey,
[1:40:26] Speaker 1: do you want to move the address bar to the
[1:40:27] Speaker 1: bottom of your screen? You now have that option. You
[1:40:31] Speaker 1: can also try long pressing on the address bar and
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: you should see the message that says move address bar
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: to the bottom. They did this on the iPhone a
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: long time ago. Apple moved theirs on Safari a long
[1:40:41] Speaker 1: time ago, and so now you can do it on Android.
[1:40:44] Speaker 1: I don't know if I like it down there, I'm
[1:40:46] Speaker 1: testing it, but anyway, you do have to have the
[1:40:48] Speaker 1: latest version of Chrome, and it's rolling out, so you
[1:40:50] Speaker 1: may not have it immediately. I was playing Donkey Kong
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: Bonanza last night on the Switch too, and I gotta
[1:40:56] Speaker 1: say it is fun, fun, fun. It is just a
[1:40:59] Speaker 1: game where you go around smashing things. It is really
[1:41:02] Speaker 1: fun and the audio is great, the sound effects, the gameplay,
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: that everything. So I am really really loving that game.
[1:41:11] Speaker 1: Apparently reviewers are too. IGN says it is Nintendo's first
[1:41:15] Speaker 1: switch to Masterpiece, So definitely get that one for the
[1:41:19] Speaker 1: kids if they have a switch to and a website
[1:41:22] Speaker 1: to tell you about. Snitcher dot space. Snitcher dot space.
[1:41:27] Speaker 1: If you get a suspicious email you're wondering if it's
[1:41:30] Speaker 1: phishing or a scam, you can send it to scan
[1:41:34] Speaker 1: at Snitcher dot space and they will send you back
[1:41:37] Speaker 1: a report. It can analyze for romance scams, fake lotteries,
[1:41:41] Speaker 1: investment fraud, emergency ployees, whatever. It'll give you all the
[1:41:44] Speaker 1: red flags and it kind of explains why you can
[1:41:47] Speaker 1: also do the same thing by control a and putting
[1:41:49] Speaker 1: it into like CHATGBT and say tell me if this
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: is scam. All right, let's talk to my kid Tanner
[1:41:55] Speaker 1: about this sensation on Roadblocks called Grow a Garden. Twenty
[1:42:00] Speaker 1: one million players. This thing is incredibly popular. What the
[1:42:06] Speaker 1: heck is grow a garden on Roadblocks?
[1:42:08] Speaker 8: Grow a Garden is exactly what it sounds like, you
[1:42:11] Speaker 8: grow a garden, though it is based off of rang.
[1:42:15] Speaker 8: There is a seed shop and it restocks every four
[1:42:18] Speaker 8: minutes and every player sees the same thing on there,
[1:42:23] Speaker 8: and it's local sided for you. So if you buy
[1:42:27] Speaker 8: something in the shop and then if another person looks
[1:42:29] Speaker 8: at the shop, they'll see something, but you won't.
[1:42:33] Speaker 1: What does that mean, I don't understand anything you just said.
[1:42:36] Speaker 1: If that makes sense to me. What's fun about this?
[1:42:38] Speaker 1: Are you growing plants and then selling them?
[1:42:40] Speaker 8: So yeah, what's fun about it is there's mutation. So
[1:42:43] Speaker 8: you grow a plant. Let's say you grow a carrot,
[1:42:45] Speaker 8: which is the most common thing, so you grow it,
[1:42:49] Speaker 8: and then there's mutations like drenched.
[1:42:53] Speaker 1: What's the point just to keep you online?
[1:42:55] Speaker 8: The point basically is it grows offline, which is a
[1:42:58] Speaker 8: big thing that people like you always want to come
[1:43:01] Speaker 8: back to see how your garden grew.
[1:43:03] Speaker 1: Ah, So that's what I think.
[1:43:04] Speaker 8: It's keeping players in. And there's super rare seeds like
[1:43:07] Speaker 8: the giant pine cone seed or the burning bud or
[1:43:11] Speaker 8: ember lily, and those are very rarely in stock. So
[1:43:14] Speaker 8: that's what keeps kids keep wanting to go into the
[1:43:17] Speaker 8: game because they want to see if.
[1:43:19] Speaker 9: It's in stock.
[1:43:20] Speaker 1: So it's definitely psychological warfare. Of course we get that
[1:43:23] Speaker 1: all roadblocks games are. But what's funny about this is
[1:43:26] Speaker 1: that you also have a YouTube channel. I'm not kidding.
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: It's like the CNBC of Grow a Garden. They so
[1:43:33] Speaker 1: they sit there on the on the couch and they
[1:43:35] Speaker 1: play this game with this with this stock market thing
[1:43:38] Speaker 1: on the TV. And what's it showing you?
[1:43:41] Speaker 8: So basically it's showing what's in the sheet seeds shop.
[1:43:47] Speaker 8: And there's also like merchants that come around, uh like
[1:43:51] Speaker 8: daily and they sell stuff, so like it shows that
[1:43:55] Speaker 8: and it shows like eggs. You can have pets that
[1:43:57] Speaker 8: like can help you find different seeds. And that's basically
[1:44:03] Speaker 8: the game. And there's mutations.
[1:44:05] Speaker 1: So a lot of people are calling it the new Farmville.
[1:44:08] Speaker 1: But for kids, yeah, I do.
[1:44:10] Speaker 8: I don't think it deserves all of the players because
[1:44:14] Speaker 8: it is a little like come back, Yeah do the
[1:44:17] Speaker 8: sing come back to the same Like there's no way
[1:44:21] Speaker 8: to actually defeat it.
[1:44:22] Speaker 1: No, well, no roadblocks game can you defeat? I mean realistically,
[1:44:25] Speaker 1: I mean, well build a voote for treasure, okay, roadblocks
[1:44:30] Speaker 1: or Minecraft. Well, actually we're gonna get to Minecraft in
[1:44:32] Speaker 1: a second. But real quick, this person who created the game,
[1:44:35] Speaker 1: let's switch to Parker. He's going to tell us about
[1:44:37] Speaker 1: what he did that went viral, the grow a Garden.
[1:44:41] Speaker 1: The guy who created it is making like five million
[1:44:44] Speaker 1: dollars a month on this thing. Yes on kids playing
[1:44:46] Speaker 1: a game on roadblocks, just to remember that. So here's
[1:44:49] Speaker 1: what I always tell my kids. Don't be the ones
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: playing the game, be the ones making the game. That's
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: what I want them to do, all right, Parker, Parker
[1:44:56] Speaker 1: did something where you created a video that went viral
[1:44:59] Speaker 1: on YouTube? What was it?
[1:45:00] Speaker 11: All right? That is correct?
[1:45:01] Speaker 10: So I talked about this actually a couple of months ago,
[1:45:06] Speaker 10: and I talked about the Minecraft movie and how much
[1:45:08] Speaker 10: I liked it.
[1:45:09] Speaker 11: It's a great movie.
[1:45:10] Speaker 10: I wouldn't say it's the best of all time, but
[1:45:12] Speaker 10: it's great. And there was a song that went viral
[1:45:15] Speaker 10: in it called Steve's Lava Chicken. It was pretty catchy,
[1:45:17] Speaker 10: thirty second song, supposedly one of the most viral songs
[1:45:21] Speaker 10: that is classified as a song.
[1:45:23] Speaker 11: It was only thirty seconds.
[1:45:25] Speaker 10: So I made a video It was basically Steve's Lava Chicken,
[1:45:28] Speaker 10: and it uploaded it backwards.
[1:45:30] Speaker 1: You just backwards this song.
[1:45:32] Speaker 10: I did not, you know, I just like, you know,
[1:45:34] Speaker 10: if some people like it backwards, and I just wanted
[1:45:38] Speaker 10: to be out there so people can easily have it
[1:45:39] Speaker 10: at their fingertips because everyone likes that. People don't want
[1:45:42] Speaker 10: to have to go into it and edit themselves for
[1:45:44] Speaker 10: five minutes.
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: So if you search, oh wow, okay, so I guess
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: some other people did this as well, because I just
[1:45:50] Speaker 1: searched for it on YouTube. But yeah, it's just basically
[1:45:53] Speaker 1: Steve's Lava Chicken reverse. But it got like, what like
[1:45:55] Speaker 1: two hundred thousand.
[1:45:56] Speaker 11: Views Now it's up to three thirty three hundred.
[1:45:58] Speaker 1: And thirty thousand views, just re versing something unbelievable.
[1:46:01] Speaker 10: And it's not even like a YouTube shore it's just
[1:46:04] Speaker 10: a regular video and those are even harder to get today,
[1:46:08] Speaker 10: to the views, which I didn't even think is gonna
[1:46:10] Speaker 10: go this big, you know, started out just small, kept
[1:46:12] Speaker 10: on going up.
[1:46:13] Speaker 11: Now of course it's died down, but it's still.
[1:46:16] Speaker 1: You worked on a new video today. What's your new one?
[1:46:18] Speaker 1: Give us to give us it before you upload it.
[1:46:20] Speaker 11: Okay, we got it right before I upload it.
[1:46:23] Speaker 10: It's basically the song this is Me, and it's I
[1:46:28] Speaker 10: instead of doing it's like I am brave, I am bruised,
[1:46:32] Speaker 10: I am who I meant to be.
[1:46:34] Speaker 11: I am Steve. So this is what our.
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: Kids of America are doing. And there's spare time these days.
[1:46:40] Speaker 1: Thank you, Parker, I thank you, thank you for having me.
[1:46:42] Speaker 1: Gosh all right, we're gonna do one feedback. Sharon says,
[1:46:46] Speaker 1: thank you, rich I appreciate your advice on tech stuff
[1:46:49] Speaker 1: and enjoy reading your newsletter. Sharon. Robert from California says,
[1:46:53] Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm seventy two. I had no
[1:46:54] Speaker 1: idea what phone to purchase. I heard angels singing, and
[1:46:58] Speaker 1: then on TV there you were reviewing the Pixel nine.
[1:47:01] Speaker 1: I now own it and love it. I believe this
[1:47:03] Speaker 1: was divine intervention. Thank you. Bobo knows I'm no angel.
[1:47:10] Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this episode of
[1:47:12] Speaker 1: the show. Thanks to everyone who joined me today, Parker Tanner, Bobo, Kim.
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: You can find me on social media at rich on Tech.
[1:47:21] Speaker 1: Next week, we've got an entire show full of feedback.
[1:47:25] Speaker 1: I cannot wait to do that. It's gonna be fun.
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: We've got Tom Merritt as a guest host of Daily
[1:47:29] Speaker 1: Tech News show, technology journal journalist, Sabrina Ortiz, senior editor
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: at ZD net, and my visit with Disney Imagineering. Thanks
[1:47:38] Speaker 1: so much for listening. There's so many ways you can
[1:47:40] Speaker 1: spend your time. I appreciate you spending it right here
[1:47:42] Speaker 1: with me. Don't text and drive. Thanks everyone who makes
[1:47:44] Speaker 1: this show possible. My name is rich Darmiro. I'll talk
[1:47:46] Speaker 1: to you real soon.
[1:47:47] Speaker 10: Go ahead, kids, Hi, thank you, bye, nangah, thank you,
[1:47:51] Speaker 10: bye bye.
[1:47:52] Speaker 11: Have a great day.

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