# Episode 154: The EMPEROR-Preserved Trial

An episode of [Talking Points](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093943397), 10 Aug 2022, 5:14.

Audio: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1321648612-user-842180102-237361060-episode-154-the-emperor-preserved-trial.mp3

C. Michael Gibson and Stefan Anker discuss the effects of empagliflozin on CV death and HF hospitalizations in patients with HFpEF, with and without diabetes.

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