# Episode 118: The OPTIMIZE Trial

An episode of [Talking Points](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093943397), 19 May 2021, 11 min.

Audio: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1051576018-user-842180102-237361060-episode-118-the-optimize.mp3

Dean Kereiakes and C. MIchael Gibson discuss a randomized trial of a novel, ultra-low-profile fixed-wire DES.

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