# Is the number 5 real?

An episode of [Short & Curly](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093699006), 28 Sep 2026, 23 min.

Audio: https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/02/oq/Z/5c.mp3

You can see 5 dogs playing in a park, you can hold 5 lollies, and you can be 5 years old. But is the number 5 itself real? Molly, Carl and Eleanor head on a road trip to find the number 5, and try to figure out what it even means for something to be real.

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