# 1.15: Celestial Navigation (with Jay Carney)

An episode of [The West Wing Weekly](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093364587), 20 Jul 2016, 1 h 17 min.

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Former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney (@JayCarney) joins Josh and Hrishi to discuss Josh Lyman's secret plan to fight inflation, and other ways press briefings can go horribly, horribly wrong. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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