# 2.22: Two Cathedrals (Part I, with Lawrence O'Donnell and Mary Graham)

An episode of [The West Wing Weekly](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093364587), 15 Mar 2017, 47 min.

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We present the first of two episodes of our podcast discussing the Season Two finale. In this episode, we're joined by West Wing writer / producer Lawrence O'Donnell (@Lawrence), aka Jed's father, Headmaster Bartlet. Plus, Mary Graham, author of Presidents' Secrets: The Use and Abuse of Hidden Power tells us all about how presidents have hidden the truth about their health from the American people. And, introducing the BARTLET SECRETARY NAME GENERATOR. thewestwingweekly.com/episodes/222-part1 Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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