# 5.08: Shutdown (with Gene Sperling)

An episode of [The West Wing Weekly](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093364587), 25 Jul 2018, 1 h 02 min.

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Shut! It! Down! Josh and Hrishi are walking right up to the hallway outside your office to talk about “Shutdown.” Gene Sperling, former White House Director of the National Economic Council, joins them to compare Bill Clinton's shutdown game plan to Jed Bartlet's apparent lack of one. For more, visit thewestwingweekly.com/508 Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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