# 2.07: The Portland Trip (with Secretary of the Army Eric Fanning, Congressman Brendan Boyle, and Fmr. Congressman Steve

An episode of [The West Wing Weekly](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093364587), 2 Nov 2016, 1 h 07 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/dovetail.prxu.org/52/9e6ce5fd-723b-4e68-b542-99d23c4abc13/TWWW_2.07_ThePortlandTrip_11.02.16_DT-PT1.mp3

For "The Portland Trip," we try to slip the surly bonds of Earth. We are, in turns, lifted and dragged down by our feelings. In honor of Josh Lyman's conversation with Congressman Matt Skinner, we ask real-life former Wisconsin congressman Steve Gunderson what it was like to be the first openly gay Republican in Congress. And we're joined later by Pennsylvania Congressman Brendan Boyle (@RepBrendanBoyle), as well as the Secretary of the Army, Eric Fanning (@SecArmy) — the first openly gay person to head any service in the U.S. Military. thewestwingweekly.com/episodes/207 Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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