# 4.12: Guns Not Butter (with MAZON and The ONE Campaign)

An episode of [The West Wing Weekly](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1093364587), 24 Jan 2018, 1 h 09 min.

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For our discussion of Guns Not Butter, Josh and Hrishi go on a hunt for Hrishi’s Hebrew name that is almost as intense as Donna’s quest to get Josh’s phone into the hands of Senator Hardin. Tom Hart of ONE (@OneCampaign) makes the case for foreign aid, and MAZON’s CEO & President Abby Leibman (@MAZONusa) backs Charlie up on the subject of food stamps on the military, but not one single person sides with poor Josh Lyman on the remote prayer issue. For more, visit thewestwingweekly.com/412 Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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