# "Shivery Delicious" (w/ Nicole Kidman)

An episode of [Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1092361338), 11 Mar 2026, 1 h 25 min.

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Readers, Kayteighs, Publicists, Finalists, and Kyles — what better way to celebrate the 10th anniversary of CULTURE with the one and only Nicole Kidman! From penguins in Antarctica to “Heartbreak feels good in a place like this” — the three get into IT. Matt and Bowen chat with Nicole on yearning, her favorite collaborators like Baz Luhrmann, the MET Gala, cruise love, her most iconic roles, including her iconic Chanel No. 5 ad. Get into it HONEY on this episode of Las Culturistas! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Look may oh, I see you, my own my bow
[0:04] Speaker 1: and look over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, lost.
[0:10] Speaker 2: Ding Dong lost in tactile with me right now, get tactile.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Here we are Bowen Yang. It's a very special episode.
[0:19] Speaker 1: Why is that because ten.
[0:21] Speaker 2: Years ago this week we started this podcast.
[0:24] Speaker 1: That's crazy feels silly to me. Ten years well, I
[0:29] Speaker 1: mean we're not helping with this whole like twenty sixteen
[0:33] Speaker 1: nostalgia thing going on right now.
[0:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of that.
[0:38] Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna ask like, where were you
[0:40] Speaker 1: ten years ago? But now we literally can't.
[0:41] Speaker 2: We were in our friends with a mattress in the
[0:47] Speaker 2: window to keep out the sound.
[0:49] Speaker 1: That was our that was our soundproofing at the time.
[0:51] Speaker 2: And we are now ten years later sitting here with
[0:54] Speaker 2: our guests.
[0:56] Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at God.
[0:58] Speaker 2: And I gotta say, look at God because she's with
[1:01] Speaker 2: us in the room. I don't know that we could
[1:05] Speaker 2: have booked a better guest for our ten year anniversary
[1:09] Speaker 2: a podcast about pop culture. Right, you think that the
[1:12] Speaker 2: ten year is gonna happen, we probably should get a
[1:14] Speaker 2: full blow and pop culture icon in here.
[1:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, I I did my thing of like I'm gonna
[1:22] Speaker 1: watch I'm gonna watch a project. I'm gonna go back
[1:25] Speaker 1: and revisit the classics, and it's the it's the sort
[1:28] Speaker 1: of decision paralysis thing that happens with I think our guests,
[1:31] Speaker 1: where I'm sure she's used to this by now, where
[1:33] Speaker 1: everyone's like, I loved you and uh and then like
[1:36] Speaker 1: they must like sort of short circuit and then liked.
[1:40] Speaker 1: So I picked. I was very happy with to Die
[1:45] Speaker 1: For and uh the others which I and then I
[1:49] Speaker 1: watched the Criterion Collection featurette where there's something I want
[1:53] Speaker 1: to ask you. She mentioned something that I want to
[1:55] Speaker 1: ask her about, which is that she almost quit because
[1:58] Speaker 1: she was like, I can't do this. This is a
[2:00] Speaker 1: woman who is awf oulder her children. Not a spoiler alert,
[2:03] Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Well, well it's the others.
[2:06] Speaker 1: If you're seeing the others, if you know, you know.
[2:09] Speaker 2: I went for something old, something new.
[2:14] Speaker 1: Uh.
[2:14] Speaker 2: I went for final final two episodes of Big Little
[2:17] Speaker 2: Eyes season one, perfect, and I went for Eyes Wide Shut,
[2:20] Speaker 2: which I had never seen. And boy are there questions
[2:24] Speaker 2: as a result of this list of projects, But there
[2:26] Speaker 2: are approximately a million rolls that our guest has been
[2:29] Speaker 2: incredible in, just as an actress as a producer, I mean,
[2:35] Speaker 2: fashion icon, et cetera. Arguably best performance is the Chanelle
[2:39] Speaker 2: number five commercial, Oh which, yes, this is the podcast
[2:44] Speaker 2: that's going to bring it up.
[2:45] Speaker 1: Absolutely our ten.
[2:47] Speaker 2: Year anniversary special and our guest is the one. The only.
[2:55] Speaker 3: It was so had to stay quiet through that.
[2:57] Speaker 2: You stayed very stoke.
[2:58] Speaker 3: Do you see me?
[3:00] Speaker 1: You take direction?
[3:00] Speaker 3: I was like, you told me to shut up?
[3:02] Speaker 2: But then when we said number five commercial, you did?
[3:05] Speaker 2: You did jump up?
[3:06] Speaker 3: Bas just texted me, did he Literally you must have
[3:10] Speaker 3: been telepathically picking something.
[3:12] Speaker 2: We're just talking about it.
[3:13] Speaker 1: We were just talking about because my Basie.
[3:18] Speaker 2: Wonderful.
[3:18] Speaker 3: What is his name for me is dear one?
[3:21] Speaker 2: Dear one? Has that been for the beginning?
[3:26] Speaker 1: Dear one, dear one? So well again, same number of
[3:29] Speaker 1: syllables as Nicole, but.
[3:33] Speaker 3: Somehow deal one is nice.
[3:36] Speaker 1: I can say he has a nickname for me because
[3:37] Speaker 1: I met him at an event and his nickname for
[3:40] Speaker 1: me is I kid you not you bitch, because it's
[3:45] Speaker 1: how he thinks he's going to book the podcast. He
[3:47] Speaker 1: wants to come on the podcast.
[3:49] Speaker 2: Of course.
[3:54] Speaker 1: He is. He's because he sent me the loveliest email
[3:59] Speaker 1: after r on a Grande and I did this Mulan
[4:02] Speaker 1: Rouge sketch and you go, no, no, but it was
[4:06] Speaker 1: it was kind of the best thing. The best outcome
[4:09] Speaker 1: possible was to like be able to be in conversation
[4:12] Speaker 1: with him anyway, and he's.
[4:14] Speaker 3: He's with it. I mean, all you want to do
[4:16] Speaker 3: is be the center of his universe. Yeah, when you
[4:19] Speaker 3: drop from that spot, it's very painful.
[4:21] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, when you're in his orbit, it's something else. Yeah,
[4:27] Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I have to say I think mulin
[4:30] Speaker 2: Rouge was like we asked that question a lot, like
[4:33] Speaker 2: what was the culture that made you say? Culture was
[4:35] Speaker 2: for you? And Mulan Rouge came out in two thousand,
[4:37] Speaker 2: so it was just around the time when we were
[4:39] Speaker 2: starting to like be like I'm going to watch a
[4:41] Speaker 2: movie that my parents don't know I'm going to watch,
[4:43] Speaker 2: and my mother would see the trailer from Mulan Rouge
[4:46] Speaker 2: and she would say, that looks racy. That looks very racy.
[4:50] Speaker 2: And I was like, I went into fifth grade and
[4:52] Speaker 2: I told my teacher, my mom says, Mulan Rouge looks racy.
[4:56] Speaker 1: And then she was like, well, you know it might
[4:58] Speaker 1: be a little racy.
[4:59] Speaker 2: Well, that's sort of about what it's about. But then you.
[5:01] Speaker 3: Watch it to a courtisan.
[5:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, courison and consumption, that's right, the consumption racy topics.
[5:11] Speaker 2: The greatest consumption death put on Cellu Lloyd. I think,
[5:14] Speaker 2: what can we talk about it? Okay? And even people
[5:20] Speaker 2: on the team are like, like gagged, just the consumption.
[5:24] Speaker 3: Of it all. And then I get carried though in feathers.
[5:28] Speaker 3: Pink feathers, come on, Yes, I get to fly on
[5:31] Speaker 3: a trapeze in sequence with men underneath me with top hats.
[5:35] Speaker 1: Pretty good, badass, badass.
[5:37] Speaker 3: And then I get to die and be held by
[5:41] Speaker 3: Ewan McGregor singing to me. And then but I also
[5:45] Speaker 3: get to get carried in pink feathers.
[5:48] Speaker 1: Right, pink feathers seem to be.
[5:49] Speaker 3: Oh, that's really lovely.
[5:51] Speaker 2: A lot of fulfillment there.
[5:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just so exquisite.
[5:56] Speaker 2: And also, like the soundtrack that was birthed, I think
[6:01] Speaker 2: that that doesn't get enough respect to put on its
[6:03] Speaker 2: name because all bangers on that soundtrack.
[6:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's he's just a music whiz, yes, So,
[6:11] Speaker 3: I mean bas is classically built in terms of all
[6:15] Speaker 3: his knowledge and the way in which he's been trained
[6:18] Speaker 3: and then he talked about culture and pop culture. Then
[6:22] Speaker 3: he's able to enter the zeitgeist though, but he's got
[6:25] Speaker 3: all his education and classical training kind of the best
[6:29] Speaker 3: of the best. Right else, do we want to talk
[6:33] Speaker 3: about you? Because he throw someone at me and.
[6:39] Speaker 1: I'll answer, Nicole Kidman, how about that? Because I feel
[6:43] Speaker 1: like me I'm boring. Come on. The reason why I
[6:47] Speaker 1: think the reason why you've had this incredibly illustrious career
[6:53] Speaker 1: is because random career.
[6:55] Speaker 3: It's also rad.
[6:57] Speaker 2: But random in the best way. Like I love that
[6:59] Speaker 2: we never know we're working to get from you.
[7:01] Speaker 3: It is random.
[7:02] Speaker 1: Scarpett and March eleventh on Prime Today.
[7:06] Speaker 3: I think by binge, I know you're not meant to
[7:09] Speaker 3: binge things, but binge.
[7:11] Speaker 1: You think it's a binger.
[7:13] Speaker 3: I think this is a binger. If you like binging,
[7:16] Speaker 3: love I like binging. It comes you know it's not healthy,
[7:20] Speaker 3: but I love it.
[7:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, all one.
[7:23] Speaker 3: Huh yeah, just watch it? Okay, watch it and watch
[7:26] Speaker 3: it and watch it and watch it and watch it
[7:27] Speaker 3: and done.
[7:28] Speaker 2: Perfect couple.
[7:28] Speaker 3: I binged.
[7:29] Speaker 2: Netflix made that easy.
[7:30] Speaker 3: Right, Okay? Well, hopefully this makes Jamie Lee and I.
[7:36] Speaker 1: Jane Lee Bobby kind of and he just he is Crime,
[7:43] Speaker 1: Dela Crime, and then Simon Baker.
[7:46] Speaker 3: And you and everyone and everyone else.
[7:48] Speaker 2: Well, he was famously he holds a place in gay
[7:50] Speaker 2: culture because he was Will's boyfriend on Will and Grace. Yeah. Yes,
[7:55] Speaker 2: he was like the tough talking I think he was
[7:57] Speaker 2: a firefighter, right or was he a cop?
[7:59] Speaker 3: He was? What? Yeah, yeah, he's not at all.
[8:04] Speaker 1: No, right, Look, some people some people have.
[8:08] Speaker 3: Burn is very lucky.
[8:09] Speaker 2: She's the best. We were watching clips of her and
[8:12] Speaker 2: Kristen wigg going back and forth in an outtake real
[8:14] Speaker 2: and Bridesmaids right before you walked in.
[8:16] Speaker 3: I was just talking about that. That is my daughter
[8:18] Speaker 3: and I. We watch Bridesmaids when we're feeling down. Whenever
[8:22] Speaker 3: we need a lift, we watch it. We recite it,
[8:25] Speaker 3: we acted out and we do that in the kitchen,
[8:28] Speaker 3: and that is our go to saving. That's our savior
[8:31] Speaker 3: films film. Yeah, to pull us out of a funk.
[8:35] Speaker 1: Of course, there's an underappreciated. That's a new vocal stem
[8:39] Speaker 1: for me, which is a Rosebyurne line in that which
[8:41] Speaker 1: is after like the toast off, Roseburn goes dessert, wine
[8:45] Speaker 1: is out. You want to talk about It's such a
[8:48] Speaker 1: funny little like evening it's dirt.
[8:52] Speaker 2: There's also we were blown by, like the patronizing way
[8:54] Speaker 2: she looks at Kristin Wig whenever she's trying to say
[8:56] Speaker 2: like an accomplishment of hers just like.
[8:58] Speaker 3: Wow, been like wow, you're a train wreck. Get the hook, Get.
[9:06] Speaker 1: The hook exactly perfect. Oh but I just okay, Yeah,
[9:09] Speaker 1: I was gonna, I was gonna, I was gonna pay
[9:11] Speaker 1: you the compliment, and then I was gonna transition to
[9:12] Speaker 1: take it. Do you get this? Do people say that
[9:18] Speaker 1: you don't do you receive a compliment? Well, I don't know.
[9:21] Speaker 3: I'm trying to. It's not an Australian attribute like we
[9:24] Speaker 3: always have to. Yeah, humility is very important, but also
[9:28] Speaker 3: it's just hard to take compliments because the last thing
[9:31] Speaker 3: you want is to be seen as.
[9:32] Speaker 1: Bigheaded, right right, right, of course you have.
[9:35] Speaker 3: To always come in under But I'm learning to take
[9:38] Speaker 3: the strokes because it feels good. I mean, you hard
[9:44] Speaker 3: give me something.
[9:47] Speaker 1: From We do this too much, some might say is
[9:49] Speaker 1: that we fond too much, which we will keep to
[9:51] Speaker 1: a minimum. But I think the reason why, because you're
[9:54] Speaker 1: talking about baths being so plugged into the culture, I
[9:57] Speaker 1: feel like you have that same sense too of just no.
[10:00] Speaker 1: When something is a worthwhile, not even worthwhile, it's just
[10:06] Speaker 1: a risk period, right. I feel like this randomness that
[10:09] Speaker 1: you're talking about is just risk.
[10:11] Speaker 3: And it's curiosity, Okay, it's desire, it's and it's always
[10:19] Speaker 3: just being willing to try things and jump off the cliff.
[10:23] Speaker 3: That would be the way in which I approach things.
[10:27] Speaker 3: But I want to have fun.
[10:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:30] Speaker 3: I grew up in a family that had a slight
[10:32] Speaker 3: bohemian quality to it, but it was very intellectual family.
[10:36] Speaker 3: So there was I was taken to see all sorts
[10:40] Speaker 3: of theater and opera and art. I was raised on culture,
[10:45] Speaker 3: and my mother loved fashion. My grandmother could sew and
[10:49] Speaker 3: knit and embroider, and they played piano and spoke French
[10:54] Speaker 3: and all those things that you go, oh, okay, teach me.
[10:58] Speaker 3: But they were socially conscious and sort of just an
[11:02] Speaker 3: interesting group of people to have been born into yeah,
[11:06] Speaker 3: and to be launched into the world by.
[11:08] Speaker 2: So things that were fascinating were around you.
[11:12] Speaker 3: There weren't boundaries. There were in terms of sometimes my
[11:16] Speaker 3: mother would have a strict moral code and at other
[11:18] Speaker 3: times you'd be like huh. But there was a huge
[11:22] Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of judgment there was. The barriers
[11:27] Speaker 3: were taken away and you could express all sorts of
[11:30] Speaker 3: thoughts and ideas in terms of philosophy or secrets. And
[11:36] Speaker 3: some of my greatest moments were curled up in my
[11:39] Speaker 3: mom's bed, sort of us both sharing human just humanness
[11:46] Speaker 3: and ideas. And I nursed her through cancer, and so
[11:50] Speaker 3: I saw all of that. I saw her losing her hair.
[11:53] Speaker 3: I saw a fifty year marriage and the way that
[11:57] Speaker 3: unfurled as it went along with truth and honesty. Kind
[12:02] Speaker 3: of interesting, right, And she gave me insight into what
[12:07] Speaker 3: it was to be just to be alive. Yeah, and
[12:13] Speaker 3: that and I could ask her anything, and my dad
[12:16] Speaker 3: as well. So that's a really good basis to start
[12:19] Speaker 3: life from, right.
[12:23] Speaker 1: But I'm just sorry to get serious.
[12:26] Speaker 2: It is funny, no, but literally, like sometimes I watch
[12:29] Speaker 2: your movies and I think when she got the script
[12:31] Speaker 2: for this, like there's no way to really see it.
[12:34] Speaker 2: Like Mulan Rouge, for example, Like the whole first half
[12:37] Speaker 2: hour of Mulin Rouge, it moves so fast and it
[12:40] Speaker 2: is so crazy, like the scene where you're changing under
[12:44] Speaker 2: then in the tent with Jim Broadbent and you're sort
[12:46] Speaker 2: of like trying on your different personas and stuff. It's
[12:49] Speaker 2: got to be impossible to see. But I guess then
[12:51] Speaker 2: for you, that's just like thinking and trusting of the director,
[12:54] Speaker 2: because I feel like that drives you a lot, right director.
[12:58] Speaker 3: And because he and Catherine Martin, the two of them,
[13:03] Speaker 3: they had a beautiful, big house that they would create
[13:07] Speaker 3: in and that's where we would rehearse. And there was
[13:10] Speaker 3: very much of a human quality to the way they
[13:13] Speaker 3: they create their art. And so when you're brought into that,
[13:17] Speaker 3: you spent six weeks workshopping. But prior to that, I'd
[13:22] Speaker 3: done a photoshoot for Vogue with them, and I'd seen
[13:25] Speaker 3: their work growing up in Australia and watched them morph
[13:29] Speaker 3: into who they were, and there were just like these
[13:33] Speaker 3: crazy talented I mean, bas was an actor and a
[13:38] Speaker 3: really good actor. I bet his Winter Winter of Our
[13:45] Speaker 3: Dreams with Judy Davis and he's fantastic in it. He
[13:48] Speaker 3: plays a junkie. Oh wow, yeah, so there's a tidbit
[13:51] Speaker 3: for you. Yeah, go find out Winter.
[13:54] Speaker 1: What is it?
[13:55] Speaker 3: Winter of Our dream Judy.
[13:57] Speaker 1: Davis one of the the best?
[13:59] Speaker 3: Oh my god. So yeah. And then CM and Bez
[14:03] Speaker 3: went to Naida, which is our national Institute of Dramatic Arts.
[14:06] Speaker 1: Yes, I'm getting this bohemian sort of No, no, no,
[14:11] Speaker 1: there's a bohemian element here to the way that you
[14:16] Speaker 1: were raised. And I think also, I'm just going to
[14:18] Speaker 1: pick up on the opera piece opera, because I think
[14:22] Speaker 1: that I'm going to like have those two heloses come
[14:26] Speaker 1: together in terms of like it describing like the Nicole
[14:30] Speaker 1: kidman of which is like it's operatic, but it is
[14:34] Speaker 1: also so like artfully diverse for lack of a better term, right,
[14:38] Speaker 1: because it's like I think in you talking about the others,
[14:42] Speaker 1: it's like you were like, this is media, this is yeah,
[14:45] Speaker 1: this is classic Greek Euripides, but it's also it's this
[14:49] Speaker 1: operatic kind of thing. But I think that applies to
[14:50] Speaker 1: a lot of your roles.
[14:52] Speaker 3: Yeah. Agree, I well, I I think what opera gives
[14:56] Speaker 3: you is it gives you pathos and it gives you
[15:00] Speaker 3: big emotion. And because I was taken to the opera
[15:05] Speaker 3: all the time, and I would sit there with my
[15:08] Speaker 3: dad and my mom and we would cry, I mean,
[15:10] Speaker 3: and my mother would explain because she could speak Italian,
[15:13] Speaker 3: she could speak French, so she would explain the stories
[15:17] Speaker 3: and the stories I mean They're fantastic in the same
[15:22] Speaker 3: way that Shakespeare the Greeks. And I grew up reading
[15:25] Speaker 3: Russian literature. I was obsessed with the Russians.
[15:29] Speaker 2: Really, yes, how did you come to be obsessed with that?
[15:32] Speaker 3: Just because I had one of those lists of the
[15:34] Speaker 3: hundred books you're meant to read? Oh, okay, But I
[15:37] Speaker 3: started on Dostoyevsky, and then I went, oh, hold on,
[15:41] Speaker 3: and then I just kept going on Dostoyevsky, and then
[15:44] Speaker 3: I moved over to Tolstoy, and then before you know it,
[15:47] Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with the Russians. And I went to Saint
[15:50] Speaker 3: Petersburg actually and saw all of the places that Tolstoi
[15:56] Speaker 3: had built war and peace around, and people pointed out where,
[15:59] Speaker 3: you know, Andre all of it, and I was like, what,
[16:03] Speaker 3: So that was kind of the beginning of my artistic
[16:06] Speaker 3: basis is the Russians. And then I moved over into
[16:11] Speaker 3: the Bronzes, of course, which give you the yearning.
[16:15] Speaker 2: Yes, it certainly does.
[16:17] Speaker 3: I'm on a More Nights, yes, and I loved it.
[16:22] Speaker 3: I loved it. And but I've read Wuthering Heights six times, right,
[16:29] Speaker 3: and I love teeth Cliff. Yeah, so I just you know,
[16:33] Speaker 3: and that state of yearning that the Bronzes existed in
[16:37] Speaker 3: that probably was my stata as a teenager and probably
[16:40] Speaker 3: continues on now. It's one of the most it's the
[16:43] Speaker 3: one of the most underrated states have been.
[16:46] Speaker 2: Year I would agree, because it is so it's so painful,
[16:51] Speaker 2: like when you're in it, but then you can only
[16:55] Speaker 2: be in it. First, tell me if you think this
[16:57] Speaker 2: is true, Like, I'll never yearn like I did when
[17:00] Speaker 2: I was like fifteen to twenty five. Like, and you
[17:03] Speaker 2: don't realize that you're not going to feel that feeling
[17:06] Speaker 2: as intensely anymore.
[17:07] Speaker 3: Oh I feel it?
[17:08] Speaker 2: Really?
[17:09] Speaker 1: I still yeah, you still do.
[17:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to study yearning.
[17:12] Speaker 2: Now you are.
[17:13] Speaker 1: And it can be towards anything or anyone, Okay.
[17:16] Speaker 3: But it keeps you alive, keeps you moving forward.
[17:20] Speaker 2: Okay, I got a yearn again.
[17:21] Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, yeah, let's bring back the YEARN.
[17:24] Speaker 2: I know I'm trying to feel like I guess I
[17:26] Speaker 2: was specifically thinking about it in terms of like the
[17:30] Speaker 2: romantick desire, you know what I'm saying, especially being closet.
[17:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it tingles, I know, come on, chivery delicious.
[17:42] Speaker 3: I had a line once in this film called floating
[17:45] Speaker 3: where I play a small role. But I just remember
[17:49] Speaker 3: that the description of being Hivy delicious chivery delicious.
[17:55] Speaker 2: Oh that's really good, Chivy Delicious title of app. That's
[17:59] Speaker 2: actual the title of this episode.
[18:01] Speaker 3: I shivery deliver.
[18:03] Speaker 2: It's become and I couldn't think of anything better.
[18:05] Speaker 1: Thru Wait.
[18:08] Speaker 2: On eBay, every find.
[18:10] Speaker 1: Has a story, Like if you're looking for a vintage
[18:12] Speaker 1: band tea, not just at.
[18:14] Speaker 2: The band tea from the last shell your favorite band
[18:17] Speaker 2: ever played.
[18:18] Speaker 1: If you wore it everywhere, but then your girlfriend or
[18:21] Speaker 1: boyfriend or BFF started wearing it.
[18:23] Speaker 2: Which was cute until they dumped you or unfriended you
[18:27] Speaker 2: and took it with.
[18:28] Speaker 1: Them, which was not so cute.
[18:30] Speaker 2: Anyway, Now you're on eBay.
[18:32] Speaker 1: And there it is, same tea from the same tour,
[18:35] Speaker 1: still living in your memory. You rent free forever.
[18:38] Speaker 2: See the things you love have a way of finding
[18:41] Speaker 2: their way back to you.
[18:42] Speaker 1: But eBay isn't just forgetting whatever your X or XBFF
[18:45] Speaker 1: stole back.
[18:46] Speaker 2: It's also for that rare championship foul ball you caught
[18:49] Speaker 2: then heroically gave to the kid next to you.
[18:51] Speaker 1: And where else are you going to find your first car?
[18:54] Speaker 2: The one you wish you never sold, but now finally
[18:57] Speaker 2: get the chance to take back home.
[18:59] Speaker 1: For a good time.
[19:00] Speaker 2: Shop eBay from millions of fines, each with a.
[19:03] Speaker 1: Story eBay Things People Love.
[19:07] Speaker 2: Do you have like a favorite line of dialogue you've said?
[19:11] Speaker 3: I have? I mean, I've worked with the greatest writer
[19:13] Speaker 3: you true, I think. I think the hours gave me. Yeah,
[19:18] Speaker 3: when you're David Hare wrote just just exquisite dialogue inspired
[19:28] Speaker 3: by Virginia Wolf from Michael Cunningham and then directed by
[19:33] Speaker 3: Stephen Daldry. But that that that screenplay was was just
[19:39] Speaker 3: beautiful and to be able to do it justice that
[19:42] Speaker 3: that monologue in the hours of oh yeah, that was
[19:47] Speaker 3: like too and we rigorously worked that. And I have
[19:51] Speaker 3: to call out the praises of Stephen Delane in that
[19:55] Speaker 3: because that's so much what acting is. There's two of
[19:58] Speaker 3: you in that scene. He love her does he wants
[20:01] Speaker 3: to take her and and save her in a way
[20:05] Speaker 3: from herself, but she says no, it's the right of
[20:08] Speaker 3: every human being to choose. I get to choose my destiny.
[20:14] Speaker 3: I get to choose, and I really believe in that.
[20:17] Speaker 2: Will you direct because you you speak like a director?
[20:22] Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, because I feel like you're like really
[20:24] Speaker 2: working in like the obviously actress but like, but what
[20:29] Speaker 2: I'm saying is, like you, I think would be an
[20:32] Speaker 2: actor's dream as a director, because no one understands it
[20:35] Speaker 2: better than you.
[20:36] Speaker 3: Well, I I've always I mean, you never say never
[20:39] Speaker 3: to anything, because whenever I do that, that's that's a disaster.
[20:42] Speaker 3: And then you go, oh, okay, well I changed my mind. Yeah,
[20:46] Speaker 3: my prerogative. But I love being an actor. Yeah, I
[20:50] Speaker 3: actually love being in the hands of a great director
[20:53] Speaker 3: and a great writer, and I love being there to contribute.
[20:57] Speaker 3: But to lead it that's fair difficult. That's decision making
[21:02] Speaker 3: that is unfaltering in your vision, whereas I see all
[21:08] Speaker 3: all ways. So I need, okay, this is what we're doing.
[21:17] Speaker 1: You want to be amenable to all kinds of apps.
[21:19] Speaker 3: I'm interested. I'm just interested. That's beautiful, and so I
[21:24] Speaker 3: hope I always shay interested. I love asking questions more
[21:29] Speaker 3: than having questions asked.
[21:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a question then, just because I
[21:34] Speaker 2: have to tell you again, just looping back to those
[21:36] Speaker 2: things that you remember from pivotal moments in your life,
[21:40] Speaker 2: I think that every every queer person our age probably
[21:45] Speaker 2: remembers walking into a Blockbuster, and which was the video
[21:49] Speaker 2: rental store where you can rent VHS's, and walking over
[21:53] Speaker 2: to the Batman aisle and seeing Doctor Chase Meridian on
[21:59] Speaker 2: the cover of the Batman Forever VHS the Veronica Lake hair.
[22:05] Speaker 2: I found out something about myself seeing that picture of
[22:09] Speaker 2: you on there. I was like, I need to know everything.
[22:13] Speaker 2: And I rented it again and again and again, and
[22:16] Speaker 2: I watched it and that movie, I have to say,
[22:19] Speaker 2: and Batman and Robin Camp underrated Camp Classics masterpieces.
[22:23] Speaker 3: Joe Schumacher, Yes, that was Yeah, we created her together,
[22:28] Speaker 3: that hair, everything, and he was like, here she is,
[22:31] Speaker 3: here's doctor Chase.
[22:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, and he probably felt the same way we did.
[22:35] Speaker 2: Walk into the Blackbuster.
[22:36] Speaker 3: When you walking was I'm not pretty enough to come on? Truly,
[22:41] Speaker 3: I really felt when I was doing that that I
[22:44] Speaker 3: was not pretty enough?
[22:44] Speaker 1: What was the idea? What were you trying to? Were
[22:47] Speaker 1: you training Ronica?
[22:50] Speaker 3: But I mean also just just that sort of the dream,
[22:55] Speaker 3: the dream blonde, right, And I did not feel like that.
[22:58] Speaker 3: I've never felt like that. So but that's the beauty
[23:01] Speaker 3: of acting is you can pretend to create become right, yes,
[23:06] Speaker 3: which is what we love. Yeah, you can put on
[23:09] Speaker 3: a wig. You can suddenly put on red lipstick, and
[23:13] Speaker 3: you can dress differently and put heels on, and suddenly
[23:16] Speaker 3: you are kind of you would love to be and
[23:20] Speaker 3: then it all comes off again in your back. But
[23:23] Speaker 3: it's so great being able to step into that. I mean,
[23:25] Speaker 3: the same was so many different characters. But a lot
[23:29] Speaker 3: of people also cite the Channel number five commercials, so
[23:33] Speaker 3: they always say to me, was I'll.
[23:37] Speaker 4: Never I must have been the only person in the
[23:44] Speaker 4: world who didn't know who she was.
[23:50] Speaker 2: It was on repeat. It's my favorite movie. Now Number
[23:54] Speaker 2: five commercial was starring you and Rodrigo Santoro, directed by
[23:58] Speaker 2: Baz Luhrman. Here's my film.
[24:02] Speaker 3: And and that pink.
[24:03] Speaker 2: Dress, everything about.
[24:06] Speaker 3: It running down the street. But that's fat, that's the's
[24:09] Speaker 3: dreams and that CM too, and they can just create that.
[24:11] Speaker 3: That's why the pink feathers, the pink.
[24:13] Speaker 2: Dress I love.
[24:19] Speaker 1: So much.
[24:20] Speaker 2: It is the best, and it was it's like.
[24:27] Speaker 3: But no one had ever done that sort of film.
[24:29] Speaker 3: I remember Carl Laga felt being like, I love this.
[24:33] Speaker 3: He gave the thumbs up to it, which was a
[24:35] Speaker 3: huge thing for Carl who was just like she personified
[24:38] Speaker 3: right of course, And and it was like, okay, but
[24:42] Speaker 3: they spent an enormous amount of money on that. Yeah
[24:47] Speaker 3: they didn't. They didn't go cheap, But why go cheap
[24:51] Speaker 3: when you don't have to and you can create something iconically.
[24:54] Speaker 2: That we remember it.
[24:55] Speaker 3: I'm so glad they didn't skim.
[24:57] Speaker 2: No, I love like a big ask commercial that at
[25:01] Speaker 2: the last second you find out it was about something
[25:03] Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with this story.
[25:07] Speaker 1: It's perfect. Like you don't like it's how it should be.
[25:10] Speaker 1: It's because at that point it's like you're not being
[25:13] Speaker 1: duped into buying something. You're just in the world.
[25:16] Speaker 2: You've already bought it.
[25:17] Speaker 1: You've already bought it because you're in the world of
[25:19] Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, but can I ask on the acting now,
[25:21] Speaker 1: on this love of acting? I was watching this feature
[25:25] Speaker 1: this featurette on the others for the Criteria collection, which was, uh, yeah,
[25:29] Speaker 1: it entered that a couple of years ago, but congrats huge.
[25:34] Speaker 1: But you were saying that you almost said no.
[25:38] Speaker 3: And I said yes and then I said no, but
[25:40] Speaker 3: that you also that this.
[25:41] Speaker 1: Is your usual process, that you kind of said that
[25:44] Speaker 1: this is like something that happens not a lot.
[25:45] Speaker 3: But I try not to do it now because it's
[25:47] Speaker 3: incredibly frustrating and irritating for people.
[25:50] Speaker 2: But it's super the line producer for everybody, Like.
[25:54] Speaker 1: What but forget other people? It's like if because I
[25:57] Speaker 1: think you were acknowledging it. It's part of your process, right,
[26:00] Speaker 1: like oh for anything that is kind of maybe scaring
[26:03] Speaker 1: you a little bit, like that is part of how
[26:05] Speaker 1: you approach it. Like you're saying you don't do it
[26:07] Speaker 1: anymore now, but like what was?
[26:08] Speaker 3: No, I still do it?
[26:09] Speaker 1: Okay, great, I just do it less. Yeah.
[26:13] Speaker 3: Step to healing is awareness. Yes, so I'm on the road.
[26:19] Speaker 1: You're on the road. Can you tell the like do
[26:22] Speaker 1: you understand that now as a thing of like this
[26:24] Speaker 1: is just something about going through it?
[26:26] Speaker 3: Well, that particularly was I was making Molin rouge when
[26:30] Speaker 3: I agreed to do it. So I was steen when
[26:35] Speaker 3: I read Grace, which is you know, the others, the
[26:38] Speaker 3: character and the others. So I had not delved psychologically
[26:43] Speaker 3: into her because I'd accepted in a different state of
[26:48] Speaker 3: being that being said, got it. I then arrive over
[26:54] Speaker 3: there and I'm like, oh my god, I've got to
[26:57] Speaker 3: now start prepping this woman who who kills her children? Yes, no,
[27:01] Speaker 3: I don't want to do that. I'm like, I don't
[27:03] Speaker 3: want to do this. I do not want to kill
[27:05] Speaker 3: the children. So then you go back to is it
[27:09] Speaker 3: killing the children or is it saving the children? So
[27:12] Speaker 3: as soon as I could shift into oh, I'm saving
[27:17] Speaker 3: the children, even though that is so insane and crazy,
[27:22] Speaker 3: it was choosing to save them from terrible pain, and
[27:29] Speaker 3: then I could motivate into the role. Does that make sense?
[27:32] Speaker 1: It makes sense? And was that something you found with
[27:34] Speaker 1: Alijndro or is that something?
[27:36] Speaker 3: And with the acting coach I work with and the
[27:38] Speaker 3: way in which my whole just my nervous system, and
[27:41] Speaker 3: the way in which I approach something. I have to
[27:44] Speaker 3: feel it. If I don't feel it, I'm going to
[27:47] Speaker 3: be faking it and then I'm no good. So I
[27:50] Speaker 3: have to somehow find this weird state of being that
[27:54] Speaker 3: keeps it real even though I'm still existing in life
[27:57] Speaker 3: with my feet on the ground.
[27:59] Speaker 2: But your stomach there you get from it comes from.
[28:02] Speaker 3: The body work.
[28:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[28:05] Speaker 3: Emotians are in your body, So where do you find them? Yeah?
[28:10] Speaker 2: That's really I guess that's a really good thing to
[28:12] Speaker 2: remember too, is if your body is if your body
[28:15] Speaker 2: is telling your brain something that probably means more than
[28:18] Speaker 2: you know.
[28:19] Speaker 3: Well, you know a lot of times you go, especially
[28:23] Speaker 3: with trauma, and where do you feel it in your body?
[28:26] Speaker 3: And so it's a really great way to approach your character.
[28:28] Speaker 3: Where do you feel them in your body?
[28:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting.
[28:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, is it here? Is it in the chest? What happens?
[28:33] Speaker 3: Is it in the gut? Is it in the groin?
[28:36] Speaker 3: Is it in? Where is it? And let's start from there.
[28:40] Speaker 3: I sound kind of crazy, No, no.
[28:42] Speaker 2: But you don't at all like I feel like that.
[28:46] Speaker 2: That is sort of an answer to my question of like,
[28:49] Speaker 2: what would compel you to say yes to certain scripts,
[28:52] Speaker 2: because for example, something like Destroyer or like The Paper Boy,
[28:57] Speaker 2: it's like you'd read these things and be like huh.
[28:59] Speaker 2: But then the huh of it sort of is a
[29:04] Speaker 2: guttural instinct and so it's not, Oh, I don't feel
[29:08] Speaker 2: comfortable with that, so I'm going to say no to it.
[29:11] Speaker 2: It's I feel uncomfortable with that. Let me listen to that.
[29:15] Speaker 3: And Charlotte Bless say in The Paper Boy, I mean
[29:18] Speaker 3: that was just she's all like she sex, she's wild,
[29:22] Speaker 3: she's all body, she's all like she's you know, and
[29:26] Speaker 3: I wanted to go and we were shooting down there
[29:28] Speaker 3: and there in in Louisiana in the heat, and it's
[29:34] Speaker 3: swampy noir and that's kind of great to go and
[29:38] Speaker 3: do something with Lee Daniels do swampy.
[29:40] Speaker 2: Noir and zac Efron not bad.
[29:42] Speaker 3: Dancing in the rain, yeah yeah, yeah, and sitting out
[29:46] Speaker 3: in front of the Prism with my feet up on
[29:48] Speaker 3: the dashboard and it's just kind of like, yeah, she's
[29:52] Speaker 3: she's she's a cat.
[29:53] Speaker 2: She's wild, and then you get to be wild Louisiana swan.
[29:57] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[29:57] Speaker 3: They always say live a normal life and then in
[29:59] Speaker 3: your imaginary life you can do whatever you want.
[30:03] Speaker 1: Part of the coolest that's the coolest thing, part of
[30:05] Speaker 1: your mind.
[30:06] Speaker 3: Very normal.
[30:07] Speaker 1: Yes, well, part of your normal life was going to Antarctica. Yeah,
[30:12] Speaker 1: there's not We're connected here, We're connected.
[30:15] Speaker 2: I believe we just missed each other.
[30:17] Speaker 1: We just missed it. We were on the same so everyone,
[30:20] Speaker 1: Nicole and I were on the same vessel, but at
[30:23] Speaker 1: different times.
[30:25] Speaker 3: So before you you.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Went before me and people on the ship. People. First
[30:31] Speaker 1: of all, can we just shout out the loveliest crew on.
[30:35] Speaker 3: The on Silverish, right, the loveliest, loveliest people.
[30:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, And it just felt like this wonderful, like, well,
[30:43] Speaker 1: our boat was.
[30:45] Speaker 3: Tell me your story, Okay, how'd you end up in Antartica?
[30:48] Speaker 3: Who were you with? And why did you go?
[30:50] Speaker 1: Okay? And then and then would love to hear your
[30:53] Speaker 1: version of yeah, of course. Honestly, I just got back yesterday,
[30:58] Speaker 1: Yes yesterday.
[30:59] Speaker 3: Because so it's all so present.
[31:02] Speaker 1: I woke up this morning still feeling the sway of
[31:06] Speaker 1: Drake path, of the Drake passage, like my brain is
[31:08] Speaker 1: still used to like being rocked by the by by
[31:11] Speaker 1: the current, so by the big car, by the big current.
[31:15] Speaker 1: So my it's my mom.
[31:17] Speaker 3: And the smell of penguins and the smell of penguin
[31:19] Speaker 3: ship that that's not the most alluring.
[31:23] Speaker 2: Smell breaks the majesty.
[31:26] Speaker 3: The penguins of divine gent penguin chin strap. We love them,
[31:31] Speaker 3: we love just not their diarrhear their.
[31:37] Speaker 1: Hate it and and what makes you so confident?
[31:40] Speaker 3: Diarrhea Island, diarrhea Island. It was diarrhea island. Yeah. I
[31:47] Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna just stay down here. I don't
[31:50] Speaker 3: need to see those chicks those was calling a diarrhea
[31:53] Speaker 3: island and our whole family. Yeah, yeah, because it was diary.
[31:58] Speaker 3: I saw no ice, just diar rehear, Oh.
[32:03] Speaker 2: You missed that.
[32:04] Speaker 3: Their stomachs must not have been upset.
[32:05] Speaker 1: No, no, they were upset.
[32:07] Speaker 2: He didn't bring this up.
[32:08] Speaker 3: Well, no, but this is this is just a sidebark
[32:11] Speaker 3: and tidy Curry is Gordon.
[32:12] Speaker 1: You don't have to know, We don't have to make
[32:14] Speaker 1: the books. Take this the main bar. This is diarrhea
[32:19] Speaker 1: Island is the topic of the rest of You're never
[32:22] Speaker 1: going to island.
[32:24] Speaker 2: Already was never going to go to Antarctica. It's I
[32:26] Speaker 2: don't think it's for me.
[32:27] Speaker 3: This is a small little section where there was a
[32:31] Speaker 3: few penguins that had upset stomach. But beyond that they're molting.
[32:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's there there. They're just in a moment
[32:41] Speaker 1: of just like letting it all that.
[32:43] Speaker 3: I said it.
[32:44] Speaker 2: I'm hooked on it.
[32:45] Speaker 1: I just just to just to hear, just to be
[32:47] Speaker 1: asked by you, how did you go hiking on diary Island?
[32:51] Speaker 1: Diarrhea island, diarrhea island?
[32:55] Speaker 3: But back to glorious, glorious and the sea lines and
[33:00] Speaker 3: the kayaking we kayak? Is that not the greatest thing
[33:05] Speaker 3: it was? I was the silence, the silence.
[33:09] Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, Yes, it must be the.
[33:11] Speaker 1: Most No, it is spectacular there truly untouched.
[33:16] Speaker 3: And the silence is unrivaled. I mean there is you
[33:19] Speaker 3: hear nothing. Yeah, and the most piece that you I
[33:24] Speaker 3: mean it truly is. And I meditated on the kayak
[33:27] Speaker 3: for like five minutes and just went I think this
[33:31] Speaker 3: is the happiest I've ever been.
[33:34] Speaker 2: Now is that because of the quiet.
[33:37] Speaker 3: I think it's just everything that surrounds you there and
[33:41] Speaker 3: there that it's timeless. And then you're aware of the
[33:46] Speaker 3: fragility of everything.
[33:48] Speaker 1: Because you're aware of because because you're looking out and
[33:51] Speaker 1: it's like this is untouched, un uncorrupted by man, and
[33:58] Speaker 1: you realize how much of our surroundings and how much
[34:01] Speaker 1: of our like interactions, and how much of our psychic
[34:05] Speaker 1: being is ruined by man. You know what I mean.
[34:10] Speaker 1: It's like it feels like you're the most in touch
[34:15] Speaker 1: with like nature as as you ever have been. I
[34:18] Speaker 1: felt that exact when kayaking, the seals were were were abundant.
[34:24] Speaker 1: We saw a glacier sort of crumble before our eyes
[34:27] Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, And I'm like, oh, I
[34:29] Speaker 1: think that's normal. I think it's a thunderous sound and
[34:34] Speaker 1: it's not crazy. No, But we so we had to
[34:38] Speaker 1: go to Punta Arenas. Es been there, been there, and
[34:41] Speaker 1: we were held for three days and they were about
[34:43] Speaker 1: the weather. Because of the weather, so they had to
[34:46] Speaker 1: We were like, so if they if they pushed your
[34:48] Speaker 1: trip back by three days, they canceled the entire cruise.
[34:52] Speaker 1: So we were on day three. It was just it
[34:54] Speaker 1: was like Groundhouse's day and like print rainas. It's lovely
[34:56] Speaker 1: Chile in town.
[34:58] Speaker 3: So nice, so yeah, so warm, so friendly.
[35:01] Speaker 1: Great friendly, great food and then great coffee, great coffee,
[35:06] Speaker 1: great sea bass. Anyway, and now I'm coming around and
[35:10] Speaker 1: we're coming around.
[35:12] Speaker 3: Did you not want to go?
[35:13] Speaker 2: I really didn't. It was going to be I don't
[35:14] Speaker 2: think you got to go.
[35:16] Speaker 3: Says you got to go. But you go with people
[35:18] Speaker 3: that are very very like the cruise we went on. Services.
[35:22] Speaker 3: You have to clean everything. I mean they are so
[35:25] Speaker 3: ecologically minded. You have to be so careful because you
[35:29] Speaker 3: can't take any of our viruses or bacteria or anything
[35:33] Speaker 3: into the into that continent.
[35:35] Speaker 1: Yes, you you can't. Even they won't let you kneel like,
[35:38] Speaker 1: they won't let you crouched down like.
[35:40] Speaker 3: They have to wipe everything. Yeah, it's very regimented, very
[35:43] Speaker 3: very sterile and clean yeah, yeah, right.
[35:47] Speaker 1: Exactly listen to us.
[35:52] Speaker 3: No, Well, it's it's kind of like.
[35:54] Speaker 1: It's a thing people, that's a thing.
[35:56] Speaker 3: You're going, you're yeah, And it's also there's still very
[35:59] Speaker 3: few people that are in. Yeah, what is the percentage?
[36:01] Speaker 1: I think it's like my mom was saying, it's like
[36:05] Speaker 1: one percent, which is not which makes it gives it
[36:07] Speaker 1: a bad rap. It's like it's not one percent clear
[36:10] Speaker 1: what people do?
[36:11] Speaker 3: You venturers?
[36:12] Speaker 2: Who?
[36:13] Speaker 3: And you're an adventurer.
[36:15] Speaker 2: Well, it was his parents dream to go, his mother's
[36:18] Speaker 2: dream to go.
[36:20] Speaker 1: Yes, as my parents. And it was like a good son.
[36:26] Speaker 1: I loved it son. It was great.
[36:29] Speaker 3: Yes, you didn't want to go, but you went.
[36:32] Speaker 1: I was genuinely excited.
[36:34] Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a good son.
[36:36] Speaker 1: Six right, Yes, I'm on six.
[36:39] Speaker 3: You haven't done seven.
[36:40] Speaker 1: I haven't done seven. So I was stolen valide content
[36:43] Speaker 1: have not done. I am dying to go to Africa.
[36:46] Speaker 1: I'm still having gone.
[36:47] Speaker 2: I need Africa.
[36:48] Speaker 1: Yes okay, and Anerica was, oh, but this is just
[36:52] Speaker 1: to say that, like we so they really got We
[36:55] Speaker 1: lost three days but we're on the ship. This is great.
[36:57] Speaker 1: And then I had to fly back in time to
[36:59] Speaker 1: do the actor wards. But then they kept pushing the
[37:03] Speaker 1: dates out of King because did you fly in or
[37:05] Speaker 1: did you cross Drake Passage?
[37:06] Speaker 3: We flew in.
[37:07] Speaker 2: We were yeah, we heard about this.
[37:11] Speaker 1: King George Island crazy.
[37:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[37:13] Speaker 1: So they wouldn't clear us to fly for three days.
[37:16] Speaker 1: So then we got the other, the flip side of
[37:18] Speaker 1: it on the way back, which is we're sailing Drake Passage,
[37:21] Speaker 1: which is where the Atlantic and the Pacific meat the
[37:24] Speaker 1: harshest waters happens.
[37:25] Speaker 3: If you don't, if you can't fly out, you you
[37:28] Speaker 3: do have to cross.
[37:29] Speaker 1: You do have to cross the passage.
[37:30] Speaker 3: I did not know that. I didn't do my full research.
[37:33] Speaker 1: No, And so when they broke the news to us,
[37:35] Speaker 1: the room erupted in equal cheers and groans of agony.
[37:41] Speaker 3: We were about the second we had it. We were
[37:43] Speaker 3: hell for an extra day, yes, And there was tears
[37:47] Speaker 3: of joy and tears of I've got to get back.
[37:50] Speaker 3: I've got a job to do. I'm going to lose
[37:52] Speaker 3: my job. We got to get off this boat.
[37:54] Speaker 1: So how did you and the daughters, how did you
[37:55] Speaker 1: guys react to that, to being held in.
[37:57] Speaker 3: I was happy, okay, and.
[38:00] Speaker 1: Now you're a cruise person, you said on.
[38:01] Speaker 3: It, And then I was like, but I got to
[38:03] Speaker 3: get off. I can do one day, maybe two days,
[38:08] Speaker 3: but I've got to get back.
[38:10] Speaker 1: So I think you and I are.
[38:11] Speaker 3: I'm a cruise person.
[38:12] Speaker 1: Now are you really? Yeah, because you said you have
[38:15] Speaker 1: you have two more planned? Oh yeah with Silver Sea. No, okay,
[38:19] Speaker 1: one with Silver Sea great, they're they're they're lovely.
[38:22] Speaker 3: And one with Ritz Carlton.
[38:23] Speaker 1: Oh fine, and the A.
[38:25] Speaker 3: I'm trying them all. I'm ready. I'm ready. But my daughters,
[38:30] Speaker 3: because there's only two of them, they're like, we want
[38:33] Speaker 3: our family. So my sister has six kids, they have partners,
[38:36] Speaker 3: they all so I bring everyone, and then my best
[38:38] Speaker 3: friend since I was four, all her children and their partner.
[38:42] Speaker 3: It's just we have a big tribe that we travel
[38:45] Speaker 3: with and we're all like and then Katie, who's here,
[38:51] Speaker 3: is like my sister. So we have like this huge
[38:54] Speaker 3: tribe of people. And there's two women that work with
[38:57] Speaker 3: me who've worked with me for years, who are also
[38:59] Speaker 3: like sister. So it's like, come on, we got to go.
[39:04] Speaker 3: And I love I grew up in a family where
[39:07] Speaker 3: we travel in big groups and we would do things
[39:11] Speaker 3: in big groups, so it's very comforting to me. Yeah,
[39:14] Speaker 3: so if I'm in the position to be able to
[39:16] Speaker 3: share and do it. Of course I'm doing it. I
[39:19] Speaker 3: will work so hard so I can play hard.
[39:22] Speaker 2: Yeah. And also it's like we were talking before the
[39:24] Speaker 2: episode started about like why you'd rewatch something you've already
[39:29] Speaker 2: seen or do something for me, It's often like I
[39:32] Speaker 2: want to watch other people experience this thing, you know
[39:35] Speaker 2: what I mean, Like sometimes I don't know what that is,
[39:37] Speaker 2: but yeah, it's like maybe there's something to it for you,
[39:39] Speaker 2: and wanting everyone to be together. It's like we're going
[39:41] Speaker 2: to have an experience together, and I really do enjoy
[39:45] Speaker 2: the I don't know what that what that would be called,
[39:48] Speaker 2: but that's sort of like transference that happens when someone
[39:51] Speaker 2: else is having a moment of awe and wonder or
[39:54] Speaker 2: whatever the emotion is. You might be able to anticipate
[39:57] Speaker 2: it yourself. But that's like, that's that's a thing.
[40:01] Speaker 3: It's a thing. It's a thing. That's why I love
[40:03] Speaker 3: throwing parties and giving gifts. Yeah, I love doing that.
[40:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a party girl. Yeah, I said once to somebody,
[40:14] Speaker 3: and my kids were making fun of me. Oh, I
[40:16] Speaker 3: love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave Yeah,
[40:20] Speaker 3: like does not go together, mom, And I'm like, for me,
[40:23] Speaker 3: it does.
[40:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:25] Speaker 1: You how do you feel do people still uh come
[40:30] Speaker 1: up to you and bring up Basement as sort of
[40:34] Speaker 1: a cultural like touched them now in a post Baby
[40:36] Speaker 1: Girl society.
[40:38] Speaker 3: Yeah, Baby Girl hit. We thought it was going to
[40:41] Speaker 3: be speak to older women primarily. It hit a younger
[40:46] Speaker 3: generation and gay men in a way that I had
[40:49] Speaker 3: no idea.
[40:50] Speaker 2: The milk was huge. Milk is back now because of it.
[40:52] Speaker 2: I had a glass of milk at dinner.
[40:54] Speaker 1: The other good.
[40:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, I just.
[40:59] Speaker 3: No, But it was fascinating what people related to in
[41:04] Speaker 3: that film. We thought it was a very very very
[41:07] Speaker 3: niche thing, and it actually kind of it moved. It
[41:12] Speaker 3: had tentacles that spread wide and then in the same
[41:17] Speaker 3: way that Big Little Eyes reached sort of a particular
[41:20] Speaker 3: group of people Baby Girl did.
[41:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[41:23] Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, because it's unexpected to me, of course. Yeah.
[41:27] Speaker 3: But I loved I loved dancing in Baby Girl. Down
[41:30] Speaker 3: there in that basement, Oh so good. And we started
[41:34] Speaker 3: and I came out of that with COVID and the flu.
[41:38] Speaker 2: A double where that's where it goes down.
[41:42] Speaker 1: That's where it went down, And how did how did
[41:45] Speaker 1: it come back that you just ran all the tests.
[41:48] Speaker 3: I got so sick and they and I knew going in.
[41:52] Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, I'm going down here. I
[41:55] Speaker 3: can just feel it. It's the middle of Winner and
[41:57] Speaker 3: it's running rampant right now. So oh well, baby girl
[42:01] Speaker 3: went down, Baby girl, drop drop down.
[42:06] Speaker 1: You heard on all fours?
[42:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, not even on all fours. Flat on my back.
[42:13] Speaker 3: There we go.
[42:14] Speaker 2: Okay, we're getting now.
[42:16] Speaker 1: We are right now.
[42:17] Speaker 2: We now we have to ask you the question, which
[42:20] Speaker 2: is the central question of our podcast. What was the
[42:23] Speaker 2: culture that made you say culture was for you? This
[42:26] Speaker 2: can be a film, you saw a musical artist, something atmospheric.
[42:30] Speaker 3: No, I'm going to tell you couture, couture. Yeah, it
[42:36] Speaker 3: actually was because all my dreams were based on it.
[42:39] Speaker 3: I would look at like the clothes and fashion and
[42:45] Speaker 3: exquim and my mom would say, look at that and
[42:47] Speaker 3: look how it's made. So from Audrey Hepburn to Grace
[42:51] Speaker 3: Kelly to all the different houses Javona, all of them.
[42:55] Speaker 3: I that's what culturally for me made me dream Wow.
[43:00] Speaker 2: Fashion.
[43:01] Speaker 3: Oh, I grew up loving it. I somehow stumbled into
[43:05] Speaker 3: being exposed to it, standing there with Galiano fitting dresses
[43:11] Speaker 3: on me and Lagafel fitting dresses on me and being
[43:14] Speaker 3: on the cover of Vogue and having access to the
[43:18] Speaker 3: most beautiful things to wear on your body.
[43:21] Speaker 2: When did that start?
[43:23] Speaker 3: Was little, because I was I would stand on a
[43:26] Speaker 3: table and my grandmother would make all my clothes, but
[43:31] Speaker 3: not kind of just haphazard put them together, like hours
[43:35] Speaker 3: and hours and hours, and she would put little collars
[43:39] Speaker 3: on and little fur and a little trim and some ribbons.
[43:43] Speaker 3: Everything was yeah, couture. So I was baby couture.
[43:48] Speaker 1: Huh.
[43:48] Speaker 3: I was like yeah, And I would stand there for
[43:51] Speaker 3: hours because I wanted to wear the clothes.
[43:54] Speaker 2: Do you remember the Then I.
[43:56] Speaker 3: Addressed my Barbie in couture clothes because my grandmother would
[43:59] Speaker 3: make my Bobby clothes. So I had clothes for my
[44:02] Speaker 3: Bobby that nobody had. And then even my Kendle had guitar.
[44:10] Speaker 2: This is before Salome. So wait, when do you do
[44:14] Speaker 2: you remember the first designer or like artist in the
[44:18] Speaker 2: fashion world that you worked with directly and you felt like, oh,
[44:22] Speaker 2: this is a moment for me in terms of an
[44:25] Speaker 2: entry into the fashion world.
[44:27] Speaker 3: I mean the first one was John Galliano and I
[44:31] Speaker 3: was shooting iceword shut and so I was able to
[44:36] Speaker 3: go over to Paris regularly, and and I would stand
[44:41] Speaker 3: there for them and they would try things on me
[44:44] Speaker 3: and try different fabrics, and then I would go in
[44:47] Speaker 3: and try on the hats and and then I would
[44:50] Speaker 3: go to Carl's. How then it sort of just was
[44:54] Speaker 3: you know, it was just a bridge. And from that
[44:56] Speaker 3: point on I was and you had, really, they don't
[45:01] Speaker 3: come to you. You have to go to them, and
[45:03] Speaker 3: you have to be willing to be a mannequin like
[45:06] Speaker 3: a model and just stand there and let them, let
[45:11] Speaker 3: them design to you. And because I've been so tall
[45:14] Speaker 3: and skinny my whole life, suddenly there was a reason
[45:17] Speaker 3: to be tall and skinny. Yeah, I want it always
[45:21] Speaker 3: to be shortened curvey. And so suddenly it was like, oh,
[45:25] Speaker 3: I can be tall and skinny and somebody doesn't mind that.
[45:27] Speaker 1: And there's a purpose. I mean, what are you anticipating.
[45:30] Speaker 3: You can utilize it.
[45:31] Speaker 1: Of course, of course, are you anticipating anything in particular
[45:36] Speaker 1: with Mcalla this year as being part of the host committee,
[45:40] Speaker 1: Like because I feel like it's such a pivotal year
[45:42] Speaker 1: for well, I just get.
[45:44] Speaker 3: To be there with Beyonce. That's it done. Yeah, I'm
[45:49] Speaker 3: done here. We go.
[45:52] Speaker 2: And is it a thing where you guys do you
[45:54] Speaker 2: discussed you get as being part of the host community
[45:57] Speaker 2: with Anna.
[45:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, we work with Anna and who is iconic and
[46:02] Speaker 3: a genius.
[46:03] Speaker 1: No, she's she's staying on to always chair the Galla
[46:06] Speaker 1: the Galla.
[46:07] Speaker 3: Okay, we need Anna, we need Anna. Anna has created
[46:12] Speaker 3: so many people's careers. She's a massive supporter of art
[46:16] Speaker 3: and fashion and and women. I mean, she's she's extraordinary
[46:22] Speaker 3: and so therefore to be able to and it's this
[46:26] Speaker 3: is I think it's the third time I've coach had
[46:30] Speaker 3: I think so, but to do it now, I'm so
[46:35] Speaker 3: so happy. And my daughter Sunday will be coming amazing. Yeah.
[46:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing you get to do with your daughter.
[46:43] Speaker 2: That's incredible.
[46:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, and she loves fashion. She's actually just walked the
[46:48] Speaker 3: door show. Jesus. Yeah, I'm back from Paris now. I know,
[46:53] Speaker 3: I know which I have nothing to do with. It's
[46:55] Speaker 3: her whole world and her relationship and she and Jonathan Anderson. Yeah,
[47:00] Speaker 3: it's incredible.
[47:01] Speaker 2: I was thinking as you were talking, like you mentioned
[47:03] Speaker 2: Grace Kelly who you got to portray. You mentioned Audrey Hepburn,
[47:06] Speaker 2: who obviously in Big Little lives, you guys all get
[47:08] Speaker 2: to do with the Audrey Hepper got and I did
[47:10] Speaker 2: read and the man. Of course I'll always be in
[47:13] Speaker 2: love with mat I mean yes. And also I wanted
[47:16] Speaker 2: to ask about Lucille Ball because I think that that's
[47:20] Speaker 2: one of my favorite performances you've ever done. You really
[47:23] Speaker 2: did capture just like her, like relentless commitment to get it,
[47:30] Speaker 2: just to getting it right. And I wonder if that's
[47:34] Speaker 2: something that you connected with that was it?
[47:36] Speaker 3: Like she she's a harder worker than me. She knew
[47:39] Speaker 3: what she wanted, she had to be. She came in
[47:42] Speaker 3: an era when she had to be such a trial blazer.
[47:46] Speaker 3: She had to. She was so brilliant that her and
[47:50] Speaker 3: comedy is detail.
[47:51] Speaker 4: Yep.
[47:52] Speaker 3: So, as she would say, comedy is detail. You can't
[47:55] Speaker 3: be generalized. You can't be haphazard. Sometimes you'll stumble on
[47:59] Speaker 3: a joke. But if you're really doing comedy and comedy
[48:03] Speaker 3: every week that has to deliver time and time again,
[48:06] Speaker 3: then that is arduous, hard technical, skilled work. It's not
[48:13] Speaker 3: just fly by night. Give it a whirl, you know,
[48:17] Speaker 3: And that's what that's what I learned from playing her.
[48:20] Speaker 3: She was also an amazing business woman at a time
[48:24] Speaker 3: when they were not women at the helm, and she
[48:28] Speaker 3: had a very you know, complicated love relationship and she
[48:32] Speaker 3: loved him and she was this, you know, just extraordinary
[48:38] Speaker 3: being so to be able to play her, whether I
[48:41] Speaker 3: looked like her or not, I was able to capture
[48:44] Speaker 3: her voice at least and her mannerisms. And then it
[48:46] Speaker 3: was like I couldn't get rid of her, and she
[48:48] Speaker 3: was in me. But it was so fun and half
[48:51] Speaker 3: the stuff that we prepared and everything was not in
[48:54] Speaker 3: the film, so really yeah, yeah.
[48:58] Speaker 2: The staging of the show, that's really cool.
[49:01] Speaker 3: So I could do every movement, every single movement like
[49:05] Speaker 3: by I studied and studied and with a movement like
[49:09] Speaker 3: we did so much prep and then a tiny bit
[49:12] Speaker 3: of it is in there. But that's that's performance. You
[49:15] Speaker 3: have to do an enormous amount of work and maybe
[49:17] Speaker 3: it makes the cut or maybe it doesn't. It can't
[49:20] Speaker 3: be attached to it.
[49:21] Speaker 2: Kind of complicated theater that was doing sitcom at the
[49:24] Speaker 2: time that I guess you have.
[49:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was doing but like gosh, and
[49:28] Speaker 1: we're talking about it because I completely agree, and I
[49:31] Speaker 1: was It's funny. I was even watching Being the Ricardos
[49:34] Speaker 1: when I had Omicron and I had to miss my
[49:37] Speaker 1: only SNL which was that which was that episode in
[49:41] Speaker 1: December twenty twenty one. But I was watching you and
[49:44] Speaker 1: it did just give me this. It just did just
[49:46] Speaker 1: download me with this notion that, like you have to
[49:50] Speaker 1: be comedy is logistics, would you say earlier, comedy is detail? Yeah,
[49:55] Speaker 1: detail all in the d It's all in the details.
[49:58] Speaker 3: And then where's the laugh?
[49:59] Speaker 2: Was?
[49:59] Speaker 3: Okay, there it is. And they were lucky because they
[50:02] Speaker 3: have the live studio audience so they had the feedback.
[50:05] Speaker 3: I think it must be so hard trying to do
[50:08] Speaker 3: that without that, because this is like, okay, great, we
[50:11] Speaker 3: know that works. We know that. It's like when you
[50:13] Speaker 3: do theater and you go, great, that's working. Oh you're
[50:16] Speaker 3: surprised at what works, and then you go, jeez, I
[50:19] Speaker 3: thought that wasn't gonna work, and that just landed. We'll
[50:22] Speaker 3: hold that, save that. We can lay of that now,
[50:25] Speaker 3: and now we can add and add and add.
[50:27] Speaker 2: There's also nothing more distracting than an artificial laugh track,
[50:31] Speaker 2: like some of some of the multicams that they know,
[50:35] Speaker 2: the multicams that they do now, where you can tell
[50:37] Speaker 2: there's an artificial laugh track. I don't think we I mean,
[50:40] Speaker 2: we probably didn't need it, no, because it's just we
[50:43] Speaker 2: know from years of growing up on that.
[50:45] Speaker 1: Like it's like watching an AI video. It's like, I
[50:48] Speaker 1: know the artifice here.
[50:49] Speaker 2: It's just a little off in terms of the volume
[50:53] Speaker 2: of the reaction or the timing of the reaction.
[50:56] Speaker 1: I mean, but you've never hosted SNL before.
[50:58] Speaker 2: No, back in the nineties you did.
[51:00] Speaker 1: Oh oh oh yeah. I does this motivate you to
[51:02] Speaker 1: do it? Did any of that motivate you? Or are
[51:05] Speaker 1: you yeah?
[51:05] Speaker 3: I would love to do it again.
[51:07] Speaker 2: Oh you should.
[51:07] Speaker 3: It's just a lot of work, it is. It's a
[51:10] Speaker 3: lot of wie.
[51:11] Speaker 1: It's about sort of gosh, it's because I was gonna
[51:13] Speaker 1: say it's it's about relinquishing the control but also being
[51:16] Speaker 1: so just so fastidious with it too.
[51:20] Speaker 3: I'm happy to relinquish control to people that know what
[51:23] Speaker 3: they're doing. So I would be happy to come back
[51:25] Speaker 3: and do it and try stuff and just play, because
[51:28] Speaker 3: really it is playing, right. But it's also when you
[51:32] Speaker 3: have two kids and you live in Nashville, and you work,
[51:35] Speaker 3: and you've got a whole other it's a lot to
[51:38] Speaker 3: commit to. But it would. I mean, it's an honor
[51:41] Speaker 3: if you ever asked, So, yeah, bow down, I would like,
[51:45] Speaker 3: I would so love to. I'm sort of ready now
[51:47] Speaker 3: because I'm also at a place where I go, Yeah.
[51:50] Speaker 1: Let's do it.
[51:51] Speaker 3: Give it a try. You fall flat on your face.
[51:54] Speaker 1: It's okay, get back up, you dear diarrhea island.
[51:58] Speaker 2: You have no idea where I've been and what it
[52:00] Speaker 2: smelled like.
[52:03] Speaker 3: A particulous smell.
[52:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, I not replica, are you?
[52:09] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[52:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to get to this part of you
[52:12] Speaker 3: have a personality.
[52:13] Speaker 2: You have a heightened smell. Yeah, well you complemented.
[52:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on
[52:22] Speaker 3: a smell.
[52:23] Speaker 2: Thank god you're still here, and.
[52:26] Speaker 3: You made me laugh and I love you both, and
[52:30] Speaker 3: I love how you smell.
[52:32] Speaker 1: This is good.
[52:36] Speaker 2: Okay, So I do we have to ask you this
[52:38] Speaker 2: other thing, which is so we've had Reese and Laura
[52:41] Speaker 2: here now the best, the best time with both of them.
[52:46] Speaker 2: Reese came in and she did an impression of you.
[52:50] Speaker 3: I've heard it and it's wrong. Wrong.
[52:53] Speaker 2: Laura came in and did an impression of Reeese. So
[52:57] Speaker 2: we have to know if you have a Laura dr
[53:02] Speaker 2: in a way you definitely do.
[53:04] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, now let's talk about.
[53:14] Speaker 2: Right.
[53:15] Speaker 3: I know, Yes, it's the warmest, most responsive and you go,
[53:22] Speaker 3: she gets me.
[53:24] Speaker 2: Her spirits. Yeah that is wow r Yeah it is,
[53:30] Speaker 2: isn't it? And then she said like it's a little
[53:34] Speaker 2: bit at the elbows. You know what I mean.
[53:37] Speaker 1: From here I'm saying.
[53:40] Speaker 3: But seeing those two together, watching them improv, oh my god, hilarious. Yeah,
[53:47] Speaker 3: they should actually have their own improv show. The Yeah, hilarious.
[53:53] Speaker 2: We were laughing.
[53:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, but you haven't seen them together, no, throw it back.
[53:58] Speaker 3: I mean they're both brit comedians, Yes, brilliant. And then
[54:02] Speaker 3: I just worked with one of the other brilliant comedians
[54:04] Speaker 3: of my generation. And Sandy Buller, oh magic too, Yeah,
[54:11] Speaker 3: I mean those women own it of course, come on yeah,
[54:16] Speaker 3: and and Julia Julia, oh of course, the great comedians
[54:20] Speaker 3: of Can we not.
[54:21] Speaker 2: Sleep on your performance and just go with it?
[54:23] Speaker 1: Please?
[54:24] Speaker 2: Okay, because there are people I know and I'm going
[54:26] Speaker 2: to shout them out, Jared Frieder, who says that's Nicholl's best. Yes,
[54:31] Speaker 2: just go with it. You don't have you have no
[54:33] Speaker 2: idea how many.
[54:34] Speaker 3: Dave Matthews where I'm dancing on the thing.
[54:36] Speaker 1: You've got to do everyone, haven't you done. It's amazing,
[54:41] Speaker 1: It's truly incredible.
[54:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in I was in Hawaii with Adam Sandler
[54:45] Speaker 3: and Jen I mean, John, can it? Can it get
[54:48] Speaker 3: better than that?
[54:48] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[54:49] Speaker 3: And Dave Matthew.
[54:50] Speaker 2: We got to get you in the Morning Show. Yeah,
[54:52] Speaker 2: we're going to get you in there with recent gen
[54:54] Speaker 2: on the Morning Show.
[54:55] Speaker 3: In all my spare time, I do have.
[54:58] Speaker 2: A question about how you do all of it? Do
[55:00] Speaker 2: your calendar and is it? Are you booked through December
[55:03] Speaker 2: at this point?
[55:04] Speaker 1: Actually not, you're not, No, I'm not.
[55:07] Speaker 2: Is that a purposeful choice for this year?
[55:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm open as of the summer. I'm just like,
[55:12] Speaker 3: I'm going, Okay, what's coming my way? I give you,
[55:19] Speaker 3: But I'm I'm I've got some holidays planned.
[55:22] Speaker 2: There we go.
[55:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all about the vacation. Yes, right, So so
[55:29] Speaker 3: I got a cruise planned.
[55:30] Speaker 2: Yes, where are you going?
[55:32] Speaker 3: I can't tell, I'll tell you please.
[55:36] Speaker 2: I'm going to Thailand for the first time.
[55:39] Speaker 3: Lovely. Oh yeah, I love Thailand. Yeah, all over Thailand.
[55:42] Speaker 3: I do feel like, for some reason, filmed in Thailand.
[55:45] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's twice.
[55:47] Speaker 3: I did bank Call Kilton when I was really really young,
[55:49] Speaker 3: and then I did a film Railway Man.
[55:51] Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
[55:52] Speaker 3: No you don't know that.
[55:53] Speaker 2: I don't think yeah, but.
[55:58] Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
[56:00] Speaker 2: Nicole, yes, yes, I'm happy you didn't. You can't watch
[56:05] Speaker 2: it all. But no, I'm excited because I do feel
[56:10] Speaker 2: like it's this weird, random thing that keeps happening where
[56:12] Speaker 2: I end up going on a vacation to whatever. The
[56:14] Speaker 2: last White lotus was, thank you, Mike White.
[56:21] Speaker 3: Where is he going next? Where did he say he's going?
[56:23] Speaker 1: Well, you should get ahead of it.
[56:25] Speaker 2: He's going to it's you.
[56:28] Speaker 3: That's the rumor far out that's gonna that's gonna throw down, right,
[56:34] Speaker 3: this is what the.
[56:37] Speaker 1: Well he said.
[56:39] Speaker 2: There was an interview he did the other day where
[56:40] Speaker 2: he said the interview deals some with celebrity and about
[56:44] Speaker 2: people who are comfortable being seeking out a love that
[56:48] Speaker 2: is more than just with one other person. They need
[56:51] Speaker 2: a love of something larger, and about answering that question
[56:54] Speaker 2: of why and about how people can feel when they're
[56:58] Speaker 2: in a relationship with someone who needs more love than
[57:01] Speaker 2: just one person can provide really interesting and I think that,
[57:05] Speaker 2: like you know, obviously there's going to.
[57:07] Speaker 3: Well if that comes back to that person is not
[57:09] Speaker 3: satiated with themselves, right, they're not in love with themselves?
[57:15] Speaker 1: Right? Is that what.
[57:18] Speaker 3: They're not at peace?
[57:19] Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
[57:20] Speaker 3: So that's a pretty you're I mean, you're going to
[57:25] Speaker 3: face You're going to have to face the reality of
[57:30] Speaker 3: what this life is at some point. So whether you're
[57:33] Speaker 3: going to allow yourself to come to that place or
[57:36] Speaker 3: whether you're just gonna get felt by it, right, it's
[57:41] Speaker 3: it's a choice. So you can do the work to
[57:43] Speaker 3: actually try to and it's never done, but you can
[57:47] Speaker 3: always be going, Okay, what do I do here? How
[57:50] Speaker 3: do I what? What is the next chapter? Particular, when
[57:52] Speaker 3: you get to a certain stage in life, it's like, okay,
[57:54] Speaker 3: where am I at now? With who I am? And
[57:57] Speaker 3: am I okay being alone? Because as soon as you're
[58:01] Speaker 3: okay with and when I say being alone, like really
[58:04] Speaker 3: being sure, it's not just being alone for a couple
[58:07] Speaker 3: of days in your in your apartment, it's am I
[58:10] Speaker 3: okay with being alone? There will be nobody there when
[58:14] Speaker 3: I die? Is that going to be okay?
[58:17] Speaker 1: Are you no?
[58:18] Speaker 3: But you know you can't. You don't know. So at
[58:21] Speaker 3: some point you've got to just face the facts.
[58:24] Speaker 1: It's which is about your guy?
[58:28] Speaker 2: Geez? Right there? True.
[58:31] Speaker 3: I think about yeah, three am in the morning when
[58:34] Speaker 3: you wake up and you are alone. Well, that then
[58:37] Speaker 3: is like, okay, this is where I have to be
[58:39] Speaker 3: at peace.
[58:40] Speaker 1: And being a piece is just about like assigning meaning
[58:43] Speaker 1: to if the meaning you're assigning to your life is
[58:46] Speaker 1: not like deleterious in some aspect to your vitality. It's
[58:51] Speaker 1: like if it's like this thing of like if you
[58:53] Speaker 1: were if your love has to involve the love of
[58:58] Speaker 1: other people in this way, that is a little grotesque
[59:00] Speaker 1: or untenable or unsustainable. It's like that is going to
[59:03] Speaker 1: eat away at something. You have to find. You have
[59:06] Speaker 1: to switch gears and find a different reason to like
[59:08] Speaker 1: be alive and to give yourself meaning besides this thing
[59:12] Speaker 1: that is not healthy for you.
[59:13] Speaker 2: You can't give you what you're needing from it.
[59:16] Speaker 3: Never will never never.
[59:19] Speaker 2: Mike White, and do you ever watch any reality television,
[59:25] Speaker 2: because he's fully on Survivor right now. You to know this.
[59:29] Speaker 2: Mike White is a Survivor contestant. He came in second. Oh,
[59:32] Speaker 2: I'm so happy to tell you this. He came in
[59:35] Speaker 2: second on a season of Survivor years ago, post him
[59:39] Speaker 2: being a well known Hollywood writer. Way after you know,
[59:42] Speaker 2: School of Rock and Enlightened and all of that. He
[59:44] Speaker 2: went on Survivor, came in second place in a tough
[59:48] Speaker 2: like to eat something. I'm sure it's what do you
[59:51] Speaker 2: have to do?
[59:53] Speaker 1: Live?
[59:53] Speaker 2: You gotta live, you gotta do the tribal council, the votes,
[59:56] Speaker 2: all that come in second place, second, And now he's
[59:59] Speaker 2: on the This is the fiftieth season where they've brought
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: back all the icons of the show. And I guess
[1:00:04] Speaker 2: some somehow he fit into his schedule going out there
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: for nearly thirty days and competing on Survivor. He's on
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: it right now.
[1:00:12] Speaker 3: How's he doing.
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: Well, It's only one week, but so far, so good.
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: And his whole narrative in the first episode was and
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: he had like this ripped body, and everyone was like
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: Mike White, but I was like, I mean, man, it's
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: got a Hollywood trainer.
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: There you go.
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: That was the whole His whole narrative on the first
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: episode was, Oh my god, he's ripped.
[1:00:31] Speaker 3: That's crazy. I had no idea.
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, but you watch everything but reality TV. No.
[1:00:39] Speaker 3: I sometimes watch reality TV. I've watched it with my
[1:00:42] Speaker 3: daughters and I've been like, oh no, this is too much.
[1:00:44] Speaker 3: Turn it off. I'm not allowed to talk about what
[1:00:48] Speaker 3: they're into anything. Okay, I'm too what I get called
[1:00:54] Speaker 3: millennial So.
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: During the jo the club.
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: Place, and that's not a compliment, right.
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: Right, But you do have reputation, like like for watching
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: a lot like Reese does the impression of you being like,
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: we have to get this to me.
[1:01:13] Speaker 3: But I watch films and I watch Yeah, I'm like, yeah,
[1:01:19] Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this over here in Norway right now?
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: And over Yeah, I'm like I love to that. I've
[1:01:26] Speaker 3: grown up doing that. I would go and I would
[1:01:29] Speaker 3: sit in a dark there and I would watch subtitle
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: films since I was little. Yeah, it was my access
[1:01:36] Speaker 3: to the world. And I also wanted to raise global children.
[1:01:39] Speaker 3: So that's why my kids have been to seven continents.
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: That's amazing as of two weeks ago or three weeks ago.
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, right, they hit seven at what ages?
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: She's fifteen?
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: The yeah, beautiful, that's amazing.
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: Yeah. Now they've got to go round.
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: To find a continent. There is the moon, the eighth continent,
[1:02:02] Speaker 2: the moon. It's actually real culture number fifteen.
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: There is the moon, the eighth the Moon.
[1:02:09] Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to think if before we do I
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: don't think so, honey. If there's anything else, I need
[1:02:13] Speaker 2: to pick our guests. Oh no, an expression I don't
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: like pick brain brain.
[1:02:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can pick my brain, pick my heart your herd?
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: Oh okay, wait, you know that you have one of
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: the most iconic vokes seventy three questions.
[1:02:26] Speaker 1: I do you do?
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: I did not know?
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: My six our packs?
[1:02:31] Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean there's only four.
[1:02:34] Speaker 1: Now there's only four. Sorry, yeah, we're gonna get two
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: new ones.
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, Yeah, we got to keep it at
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: six out packers, my six our packers.
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: And then they're like, can you lead the outpackat through
[1:02:44] Speaker 3: the frame. We're like no, no, you do not understand.
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: We're like, come on, come on, come on. Byron named
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: after Lord Byron, come on, come on Byron.
[1:02:54] Speaker 1: No.
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: Byron was like no. Then we're like, forget it. It
[1:02:57] Speaker 3: just doesn't look good. By we're pulling, So just like, no,
[1:03:03] Speaker 3: sit on the porch on the steps.
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: How many takes?
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: Wass uh?
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: Maybe six?
[1:03:10] Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's a it's a long day.
[1:03:13] Speaker 3: It's a long day, but you kind of play and yeah,
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: but you walked all through my country estate.
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: I love it.
[1:03:20] Speaker 3: It's different. Now okay, yeah, I've redesigned it. I redid it.
[1:03:24] Speaker 3: Might might need another seventy three questions, then.
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: We have to go back. We'll do it. That want
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: to do it? Yeah, more animal, there you go, reason
[1:03:33] Speaker 2: to return.
[1:03:35] Speaker 3: Questions and perfect for the first time. Two horses horses.
[1:03:42] Speaker 3: You didn't meet the horses. We didn't get to many many.
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: More because he had never Okay, so he had he
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: had a blind spot, which was he had a blind
[1:03:53] Speaker 2: just to die for? Which was I love now, love
[1:03:58] Speaker 2: to die for? I love Susanstone, su Sandstone.
[1:04:01] Speaker 3: I feel like sand Stone is a killer.
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love her for pretty killer. She was
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: a gorgeous skiller. But I have to say like that,
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: there's just something again, maybe it.
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: Is Henry and I can't believe I wrote that.
[1:04:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, and Gus.
[1:04:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, buck Henry for everyone. If you saw The Graduate,
[1:04:20] Speaker 3: he wrote The Graduate and he's one of the great
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: great writers. And then Gus Vincent, what can we say?
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: I also shout out to obviously walking but Ileana Douglas,
[1:04:30] Speaker 2: Oh amazing in that movie and gets lost in the
[1:04:33] Speaker 2: conversation of great performances from that era. That's a great performance.
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: Was she already a skater? When you guys.
[1:04:39] Speaker 3: She couldn't. She said she could skate.
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: Hey, we're at I love it.
[1:04:43] Speaker 3: Can you I skate? Absolutely as and then she was
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: on the ice not so good. It's so good in
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: the movie in a double, but she did. She got there.
[1:04:57] Speaker 3: But you know that's what you say. Can you ride
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: a host? Can you I skate? Yes? I can? Can you?
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: What have you?
[1:05:06] Speaker 3: I've said yeah, I can sing? And then Baz is like,
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: we're going to need more singing lessons. You know, it's
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: always yes, and then you.
[1:05:15] Speaker 1: Grow because you know who I'm talking. I'm talking to
[1:05:18] Speaker 1: Gina because her book My Love I Will Yeah, all
[1:05:23] Speaker 1: through her memory she's like every every roll I've got,
[1:05:26] Speaker 1: like show Girls, can you dance? Yeah, it's yes, I will.
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: I will.
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: But then it's going to become that thing where it's
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: like can you ski? And I'm going to be like yeah,
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: and you really can't, and then it's a hazard. So
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: say yes within reason people, yeah, and.
[1:05:44] Speaker 3: You dangerous when you say it's like how much do
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: you want? Want the role?
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: Exactly?
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: And they're onto us now because then they're like, okay,
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: we'll show us.
[1:05:55] Speaker 2: Video.
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: They've got it.
[1:05:56] Speaker 3: They've hacked us directors and produces a like send me
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: a tape, show me.
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: Not that anyone has to put you through your piece.
[1:06:07] Speaker 2: I know, like you've proven you can do everything. Also,
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: like what I'm on, I'm on.
[1:06:14] Speaker 3: I'm just on a massive learning curve. I'm always like, okay,
[1:06:17] Speaker 3: teach me, teach me. I'm teachable. That would be a
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: good attribute to say, I'm teachable.
[1:06:23] Speaker 2: Teachable, that's a great thing to be.
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: I think it's it is.
[1:06:28] Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, And I'm not rigid.
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: I always wake up, yes, I.
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: Always always always.
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: What do you attribute that to?
[1:06:38] Speaker 3: I don't know. Born that way always, I've always woken
[1:06:43] Speaker 3: up in a good mood.
[1:06:45] Speaker 2: Does that correlate to how you go to bed?
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: I go to bed. I have trouble sleeping because I
[1:06:51] Speaker 3: have a lot of energy. Yeah, you or not after midday,
[1:06:57] Speaker 3: but I did today. That's why I'm kind of jacked up. Now,
[1:07:00] Speaker 3: can you tell me? I'm usually a lot more sedate. Yeah,
[1:07:05] Speaker 3: I feel a bit jacked up.
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: Actually, I had a cold brewt today and then two
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: Coke zero, so I'm a killing machine.
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:07:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:07:12] Speaker 3: Will you sleep tonight?
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: Maybe not, but that would be because I was so
[1:07:15] Speaker 2: excited about this. No, I'm serious, we have been dying.
[1:07:21] Speaker 2: I know.
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: It felt cosmically right when when on the boat you
[1:07:24] Speaker 1: were like, you know, who's just here' Nicole Kim and
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: I was like, I'm talking to her next week. It
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: was it was crazy. I feel like even though you
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: are capping post mid day, it is still talking to
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: you and being with you in person. It is still
[1:07:37] Speaker 1: the thing of like, oh well, Nicole Kimen like has
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: levitated in all her roles essentially, you know what I mean.
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: It's you have this like airy lightness.
[1:07:47] Speaker 3: You can feel so good.
[1:07:50] Speaker 2: Well, you have given so much to culture, and that's
[1:07:53] Speaker 2: what our podcast is about. And we've now been doing
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: it for ten years. And I would imagine you probably
[1:07:58] Speaker 2: come up like you know, quite often to say the least.
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: And I just think back to all the eras of
[1:08:06] Speaker 2: like our life as moviegoers, and you have a place
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: in all of them, and I just and in so
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: many different ways, like whether it's like as mainstream as
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: Batman or as niche as something like birth, you know
[1:08:19] Speaker 2: what I mean, or you know Dogville or dog Ville.
[1:08:22] Speaker 2: I mean like this is like you are a true
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: you have a true artist spirit, and you're also this
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: like Megawatt movie star, and they just they don't make
[1:08:34] Speaker 2: them like it anymore. Like Margot Robbie must be like
[1:08:38] Speaker 2: sister Tea.
[1:08:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love Emma Stone. She's so brave and
[1:08:43] Speaker 3: she's just like, yeah, shave my head. Absolutely, what do
[1:08:48] Speaker 3: you want your ghost? Let's go.
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:08:50] Speaker 3: But then you know, I've I've just went and worked
[1:08:53] Speaker 3: with Osgod Perkins. I did a small role in Young People,
[1:08:56] Speaker 3: which is this horror film that he's got coming in,
[1:08:59] Speaker 3: and I love him and wanted to go and support him.
[1:09:02] Speaker 3: So he's like, I've written this role. It's three days work,
[1:09:04] Speaker 3: and I'm like, yep, yep, I'm coming coming your way.
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: So I just love being able to do something like
[1:09:10] Speaker 3: Practical Magic, which is a big studio film, and then
[1:09:13] Speaker 3: go do a fully independent, crazy wild thing. Can you
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: give a bunch of really great young actresses who are
[1:09:21] Speaker 3: rising stars.
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: I mean we're friends with Meghan Fay and.
[1:09:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I just yeah, And she's she's so good. She
[1:09:31] Speaker 3: is on the cusp of being massive.
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: She can do it all. She can do it all, yeah,
[1:09:37] Speaker 2: I mean.
[1:09:37] Speaker 3: And she's sort of effortless.
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: She was in this movie.
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: Called Drop, which came out last year, which was She
[1:09:42] Speaker 2: plays a single mom, recently single mom who goes on
[1:09:46] Speaker 2: the first date she's been on since her abuse. Her
[1:09:49] Speaker 2: husband like took his own life and tried to kill her,
[1:09:53] Speaker 2: and she's finally got her legs again, and she goes
[1:09:56] Speaker 2: on a blind date with this guy and she sits
[1:09:59] Speaker 2: down at dinner and she starts getting air dropped messages
[1:10:02] Speaker 2: from someone at her home who's kidnapped her son. And
[1:10:05] Speaker 2: so it's just it's sort of like like a it's
[1:10:07] Speaker 2: like a red Eye meets like I don't even know.
[1:10:11] Speaker 3: It's I'm going to watch it.
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: Oh, it's good.
[1:10:13] Speaker 2: And Megan is fantastic, and she holds the frame and
[1:10:16] Speaker 2: she's just so.
[1:10:17] Speaker 3: She's gorgeous and she's talented.
[1:10:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna teach her after this. Yeah yeah, But anyways,
[1:10:24] Speaker 2: all that and more. Don't think so, honey, which we
[1:10:29] Speaker 2: take one minute to tear something up in culture. We
[1:10:33] Speaker 2: time it, you'll see how it goes. No, I know,
[1:10:36] Speaker 2: all right, I'm ready to go, and it's not going
[1:10:38] Speaker 2: to be popular with with the rest of the panel
[1:10:40] Speaker 2: here today, but I'm just gonna go ahead.
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: And I know where this is going. I think Matt Rogers,
[1:10:43] Speaker 1: I don't think so money as time starts.
[1:10:44] Speaker 2: Now, I don't think so, honey, Antarctica, because I FaceTime
[1:10:48] Speaker 2: my girl on the way to Antarctica, and she's soup
[1:10:51] Speaker 2: pine in a rickety vessel.
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: With the what do you call it, a scop past,
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: a scop.
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: Patch, whatever this is. To learn what that is, He's
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: got the scott patch whatever it is, however you goddamn
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: spell it on his neck. I go, is that helping?
[1:11:06] Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, But I can't see my girl's cross
[1:11:09] Speaker 2: eyed soup pine on the Drake's passage. Now I know
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: what the Drake's passage is. The most treacherous water is.
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: So the Atlantic meets the Pacific. I don't think so, honey,
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: keep them separate. I see my girl finally gets to Antarctica,
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: takes a few pictures, sends me a video. It's the
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: iceberg falling apart the iceberg. Takes the video of the iceberg,
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: and I say, now, is that supposed to happen? He says,
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: They go yes and no. I go, okay, not great
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: information from me on tonight. I don't think so, honey. Antarctica,
[1:11:37] Speaker 2: you can kind of get there, kind of not you
[1:11:39] Speaker 2: have to wait days. Nicole Kimmon's flying in on an ice.
[1:11:44] Speaker 2: What is it called the pathway? I don't know, so, honey,
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. And that's one man. Maybe
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: not for me. I can get I can get Africa
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: in and that'll be six.
[1:11:57] Speaker 3: And you, Yeah, we will work on you.
[1:12:01] Speaker 1: I just know that's a bad that they're not.
[1:12:04] Speaker 3: We can delete that.
[1:12:07] Speaker 2: We're deleting. We can delete that on this mony. Okay,
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: I will say, yeah, I had planned to do that once,
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: so I did it. But you guys do make it
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: sound really appealing and adventurous. The quiet.
[1:12:18] Speaker 3: You've already changed your mind.
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: The patch is transdermal. It steadies your optic nerves, so
[1:12:27] Speaker 1: then I couldn't see.
[1:12:29] Speaker 3: Yikes. I didn't do the patch. I just was pug.
[1:12:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did it.
[1:12:36] Speaker 3: I'm a Navy seal. Yeah no, I've been told that
[1:12:40] Speaker 3: with pain.
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: Really, yeah, what what made someone say that to you?
[1:12:44] Speaker 3: Because I can no, No, for some reason, destroyer and
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: just still not even go and get it X ray
[1:12:51] Speaker 3: and not check it and walk around and just say
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: it's a pull muscle. Really yeah?
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[1:12:57] Speaker 3: Holy, Now that's not not normal all for a redhead,
[1:13:00] Speaker 3: because usually you feel extra pain.
[1:13:02] Speaker 2: That's what they say felt yeah.
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: The way there, Yeah, it's something to do. They just say, well,
[1:13:09] Speaker 3: I'm not that Yeah, I can like I don't know.
[1:13:12] Speaker 3: I put myself in a trance. They go, do you
[1:13:15] Speaker 3: need the anesthesia?
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: No, huh, so you need a do survivor.
[1:13:21] Speaker 3: What you're saying whish I know Mike was doing it.
[1:13:23] Speaker 3: I would have done it with him.
[1:13:24] Speaker 2: I don't think it's too late. We might get him
[1:13:26] Speaker 2: back for another season.
[1:13:27] Speaker 3: If you should have texted me and said you want
[1:13:30] Speaker 3: to do this together, honestly, we would have gone head
[1:13:34] Speaker 3: to head. I definitely would have come in second. I
[1:13:38] Speaker 3: think I think I will come in last though, because
[1:13:40] Speaker 3: I give up easily.
[1:13:41] Speaker 2: No, you don't. You can walk around with a broken board.
[1:13:44] Speaker 3: No, But in terms of a competition, that's that I
[1:13:47] Speaker 3: would just go, I give up?
[1:13:50] Speaker 2: Are you not a competitor.
[1:13:50] Speaker 3: I'm not good to have on a sports team because
[1:13:53] Speaker 3: I was always chosen last for the volleyball team, because
[1:13:57] Speaker 3: I just was like, wow, is this really important to
[1:14:02] Speaker 3: win this? I'm not a good doubles tennis partner because
[1:14:05] Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I can psychologic. I need I need
[1:14:09] Speaker 3: some sports psychology.
[1:14:10] Speaker 2: I got.
[1:14:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, I give up. I'm like didn't matter. We lost
[1:14:16] Speaker 3: six zero. I'm so sorry.
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
[1:14:24] Speaker 3: It's just too stressful. Life's too stressful.
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: It's too stressful to care about.
[1:14:30] Speaker 3: Not all the tennis match. Let's just play some recreational tennis.
[1:14:35] Speaker 2: Hit the ball, said, hit the ball?
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: What are you doing?
[1:14:41] Speaker 2: Serve it? They're not going to get what they want, right,
[1:14:46] Speaker 2: your tennis partner.
[1:14:48] Speaker 3: But I'll play, and I'll wear a short tennis girt
[1:14:51] Speaker 3: and I look.
[1:14:52] Speaker 2: Cute the vibes.
[1:14:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, ur.
[1:15:00] Speaker 2: Are you ready? Here we go?
[1:15:03] Speaker 3: Really fall.
[1:15:05] Speaker 2: This is mownangus. I don't think Sony. His time starts now.
[1:15:07] Speaker 1: I don't think Sony. The scam, the long con that
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: is outdoor furniture. What do you mean I gotta tie
[1:15:16] Speaker 1: it down? What do you mean that a cough of
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: a Victorian child could blow the cushions into another yard?
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: Now I'm doing parkour from one patio to the next,
[1:15:30] Speaker 1: just to fetch my damn stained, water stained cushions for
[1:15:36] Speaker 1: my thrickity Ratton reptan chair. I gotta tie up the
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: umbrella that is also going to be marked by the
[1:15:47] Speaker 1: the dirt and minerals of rain. I don't know, man,
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: if you gotta tie down anything starting blow away like tumbleweed.
[1:15:56] Speaker 1: I don't think it's worth buying and placing in in
[1:15:59] Speaker 1: the in your own space. Outdoor furniture it's it's a scam.
[1:16:04] Speaker 1: You're outdoor rugs. They're gonna look like ship in six months,
[1:16:07] Speaker 1: wait for one season to pass by, to look bad.
[1:16:10] Speaker 2: And that's one minute. That's true. I have to sign this.
[1:16:12] Speaker 3: I'm co signing it.
[1:16:13] Speaker 1: To and you're you want a damn farm nicole and.
[1:16:16] Speaker 3: I'm like, you get the beautiful, warm, stained wood and
[1:16:20] Speaker 3: they're like, no, the silver, ratty thing is actually what
[1:16:24] Speaker 3: it's meant to look like. And you're like, no, no,
[1:16:26] Speaker 3: I wanted it to stay looking like it was in
[1:16:29] Speaker 3: the store. That's what you said it would do. It's
[1:16:33] Speaker 3: just like any furniture you put outside and then it
[1:16:35] Speaker 3: gets old and ratty. It's faster, fast, faster, actually furniture.
[1:16:41] Speaker 3: You're right, So just drag the indoor furniture outside when
[1:16:44] Speaker 3: you need it.
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: You might as well. You might as well.
[1:16:49] Speaker 2: It gets incredibly dirty, incredibly quickly, especially in La where
[1:16:52] Speaker 2: at least where my place is like just and I agree.
[1:16:56] Speaker 1: I anyway, I'm just saying.
[1:16:59] Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, thank.
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: You that part. And you know, I hate thinking about
[1:17:05] Speaker 2: you doing parkour around the building Spider Man or something.
[1:17:08] Speaker 1: I'm running around going, hey, pal my, my little topiari
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: fell into your whatever, you know what I mean?
[1:17:15] Speaker 3: Like yeah, And then you've got the outdoor cushions piled
[1:17:19] Speaker 3: up indoors, taking up space, not looking good. Where do
[1:17:24] Speaker 3: we put these? Just shove them in the corner, and
[1:17:27] Speaker 3: you're like, just just get rid of them. They're ugly.
[1:17:32] Speaker 1: I have to have a storage bin for these tarps
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: to cover. I don't like grill.
[1:17:37] Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, tarps. Can I say, nothing
[1:17:41] Speaker 2: good happens around the tarp?
[1:17:42] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: Lay down on the tarp.
[1:17:45] Speaker 1: That was another thing in Antarctica that we had. You
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: couldn't put anything to you to put it down on
[1:17:48] Speaker 1: the tarp, to put your life jacket onto.
[1:17:50] Speaker 3: The tarp, to protect it all, to protect it all, some.
[1:17:54] Speaker 2: More of the Antarctica energy around the world. I think so,
[1:17:58] Speaker 2: because I will say, we went to Tokyo then came
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: back to America. Couldn't believe how filthy we are by comparison.
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: Like you walk around New York and you compare it
[1:18:06] Speaker 2: to Tokyo. It's like absolutely obsurd, like you don't even
[1:18:11] Speaker 2: see it because you're so used to it.
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: I know.
[1:18:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like that.
[1:18:14] Speaker 3: And it's all about the contrast, isn't it. And then yeah,
[1:18:18] Speaker 3: to open your eyes.
[1:18:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why it's important to travel.
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: I agree.
[1:18:23] Speaker 2: I agree.
[1:18:23] Speaker 1: Now it's time.
[1:18:26] Speaker 2: It's gonna be good.
[1:18:27] Speaker 1: I think I think you've got it. You've got the idea.
[1:18:29] Speaker 3: I just got the idea.
[1:18:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna absolutely crush it.
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: Though this is Nicole Kidman's I don't think so, honey,
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: and her time starts now, I.
[1:18:39] Speaker 3: Don't think so honey. If you have bad breath, I
[1:18:42] Speaker 3: cannot stand bad breath. I mean this is a deal
[1:18:47] Speaker 3: breaker for me. Like you could be the most gorgeous,
[1:18:51] Speaker 3: gorgeous guy and you come at me with bad breath
[1:18:54] Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, no, no, it's off right. It's
[1:18:58] Speaker 3: like if I say wreathe on me and I have
[1:19:01] Speaker 3: to recoil. Yikes, I'm out. I am out. You could
[1:19:07] Speaker 3: not offer me enough money. And so therefore, when Alexander
[1:19:11] Speaker 3: scarsguard ate a Faluffel sandwich before we did the scenes
[1:19:16] Speaker 3: in big little eyes, I'm like, no, no, no, alex
[1:19:20] Speaker 3: I'm meant to be kissing you and into you. Put
[1:19:23] Speaker 3: away the faluffel now right, because the bad breath does
[1:19:29] Speaker 3: not turn me on. As I said, it is very
[1:19:34] Speaker 3: important to smell good, but more importantly the mouth, the
[1:19:39] Speaker 3: taste of the mouth and the smell of the mouth
[1:19:41] Speaker 3: is very important to me.
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: And that's one minute.
[1:19:45] Speaker 2: I have to say, Alexander Scarsguard has been having such
[1:19:49] Speaker 2: a moment with Pillion and you just knocked him out.
[1:19:53] Speaker 3: I'm sure he did not eat a faluffel ever.
[1:19:56] Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, you looked him in the eyes and I said.
[1:19:59] Speaker 3: No more for lufful, no more that. Nope, not before
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: you kiss, not before you make love, No more fluffoul away.
[1:20:09] Speaker 2: It's a rule of culture number fifty.
[1:20:12] Speaker 1: Before you make love. And I just have to say,
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: for an actor of your caliber to say that falafful
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: could destroy the reality of the scene, could just render,
[1:20:28] Speaker 1: could render the scene work completely meaningless, purely on breath.
[1:20:34] Speaker 1: You really are an old breath.
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: You are factory.
[1:20:37] Speaker 3: So the smell yeah, yeah, your sense totallyah smell memory,
[1:20:46] Speaker 3: which is why when I lost it, I was relieved.
[1:20:50] Speaker 1: After basement, you said, unburdened me.
[1:20:53] Speaker 3: I was like, few, oh, this is straight.
[1:20:57] Speaker 1: This is after the girl.
[1:21:00] Speaker 3: To the smell.
[1:21:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in it.
[1:21:03] Speaker 3: I was in a good way because it was a mutet.
[1:21:07] Speaker 3: It was finally article.
[1:21:11] Speaker 1: I was free, so that when it came back, I
[1:21:17] Speaker 1: am obsessed.
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: I can't now now knowing.
[1:21:20] Speaker 3: And you want to know who smells the best ever?
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: Oh of course I've heard that.
[1:21:27] Speaker 3: Actually it's true.
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: Do you think it's.
[1:21:30] Speaker 2: That like she just has a scent that like like
[1:21:34] Speaker 2: like a fragrance that she isn't It's something.
[1:21:36] Speaker 3: We don't need to We don't need to unwrap, we
[1:21:38] Speaker 3: don't need to just know it's all true.
[1:21:42] Speaker 1: What does it smell like?
[1:21:44] Speaker 3: I've intoxicating. It is like I will follow you around
[1:21:49] Speaker 3: and it is like you smell Oh my god.
[1:21:53] Speaker 1: I will follow you around. So you're saying, yeah.
[1:21:59] Speaker 2: The most respectful way.
[1:22:03] Speaker 3: No, truly, she smells divine. But are you also really
[1:22:06] Speaker 3: smell divine?
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: I have my characters on today We Love Looney to Love. Yeah,
[1:22:15] Speaker 2: there is no don't you little quack? There's tweet? Oh
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: my good, honestly I want.
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: Something is happening. You were in a thrall right now
[1:22:32] Speaker 1: about Rihanna tweety bird smells in general.
[1:22:36] Speaker 2: Legendary ladies of our time.
[1:22:40] Speaker 3: I'm sensory.
[1:22:41] Speaker 2: Okay, I'm so happy I remembered to so good anyways,
[1:22:48] Speaker 2: so good.
[1:22:50] Speaker 3: Listen this hatfuls tweety bird, Rihanna, Rihanna.
[1:22:54] Speaker 2: We covered it all diarrhea island.
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: That's why I didn't I get you see of course.
[1:23:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, the smell. It's all about the smell.
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: It's been a shivery delicious episodes.
[1:23:06] Speaker 3: Fabulous.
[1:23:07] Speaker 2: Fabulous doesn't even begin to cut it. We want to
[1:23:10] Speaker 2: just say thank you so much for coming here. Scarpetta
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: is out now you can. You can stream it the
[1:23:18] Speaker 2: hell away, like in one binge.
[1:23:21] Speaker 3: That's what Nicole is saying to Jamie. Lee. Curtis and
[1:23:23] Speaker 3: I got fisty cups. We come to We physically fight
[1:23:27] Speaker 3: in it.
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so happy.
[1:23:30] Speaker 3: We literally fight and you you are like come to blows.
[1:23:36] Speaker 1: You are too. I'm gonna say, rambunctious people. And just
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: to see that it's going to be good. It's worth
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: the price, I hope.
[1:23:45] Speaker 3: So Okay, and troubles Me Yes, I produced.
[1:23:49] Speaker 2: That, Yes, Yes, Yes on its way.
[1:23:51] Speaker 3: Yes with and the darling Oh my god, we.
[1:23:54] Speaker 2: Didn't even talk about the no bring me the Anatomy book.
[1:24:02] Speaker 2: Okay starts the episode the best just like we gotta go.
[1:24:08] Speaker 2: She's gonna were Scarpetta, but on the next episode it
[1:24:12] Speaker 2: will be all about the biguiled.
[1:24:14] Speaker 1: And bring back.
[1:24:16] Speaker 3: You gotta ask me back anytime, and you.
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: Gotta have the yes.
[1:24:20] Speaker 2: Please don't threaten us. All right, he can't bring those
[1:24:25] Speaker 2: Hey are we end never episode with the song come
[1:24:32] Speaker 2: We're both you. Come on man, you were really you
[1:24:36] Speaker 2: in there.
[1:24:36] Speaker 3: I will.
[1:24:39] Speaker 2: Until we love that throaty felt you and it's gonna
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: call out Okay.
[1:24:51] Speaker 1: Last Culture Recis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big
[1:24:53] Speaker 1: Money Players in My Heart Radio.
[1:24:54] Speaker 2: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang,
[1:24:58] Speaker 2: executive produced by Anna hosby A and produced by Decca Ramos,
[1:25:01] Speaker 2: Edited and mixed by Duck Babe, and our music is
[1:25:04] Speaker 2: by Henry Komerski.
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